Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation
Dear Tom and List, Jim has had a very intense few days at work this week so I'm not sure if he had time to respond or not to your request. Since it's 1:11am I'm not going to call him... :-) We would be happy to keep a list of "pronunskiations" on both MeteoriteTimes.com and meterite.com I will work on a real time database interface for ease of submitting and viewing. This way you can view the list to see if it's already there before submitting. I'll let the democracy of the list decide if you Jim and I to be the keepers of the list. Best Wishes To All, Paul and Jim Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. http://www.meteorite.com MeteoriteTimes.com Magazine http://www.meteoritetimes.com PMB#455 P.O. Box 7000, Redondo Beach, CA 90277 USA FAX Number(310) 316-1032 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation - corrected
I clicked the wrong button... must be time to go to bed :-) Dear Tom and List, Jim has had a very intense few days at work this week so I'm not sure if he had time to respond or not to your request. Since it's 1:11 AM I'm not going to call him... :-) We would be happy to keep a list of "pronunskiations" on both MeteoriteTimes.com and meteorite.com I will work on a real time database interface for ease of submitting and viewing. This way you can view the list to see if it's already there before submitting. I'll let the democracy of the list decide if you want Jim and I to be the keepers of the list. Best Wishes To All, Paul and Jim Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. http://www.meteorite.com MeteoriteTimes.com Magazine http://www.meteoritetimes.com PMB#455 P.O. Box 7000, Redondo Beach, CA 90277 USA FAX Number(310) 316-1032 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
<< Rob Elliott's "Leighlinbridge" isn't pronounced the way it looks. I believe it is pronounced "lock - lynn - bridge". Rob can clarify this one. >> Yep, that's about right. The pronunciation varies with different regional dialects, but the Leighlinbridge residents themselves in County Carlow, Ireland pronounce it as "Lock-lin-bridge". By the way, if anyone can pronounce my address and locality correctly (see email signature below), they win the right to check out the Aubres fragments I listed on my website last night at http://fernlea.tripod.com/sale1.html Those that trip up on the correct pronunciation have to look at it twice ;-) Cheers, Rob. http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Near Glenrothes, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563 Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eucrite question
David Calongne inquired: > what is the pure white mineral in dhofer 007 or millbillillie David, you are probably looking at plagioclase which is anorthite (An90-92) in the Dhofar 007 cumulate, monomict breccia. Plagioclase is a tectosilicate: (Na,Ca)(Si,Al)3O8 Anorthite is a tectosilicate: CaAl2Si2O8 References: RUBIN A.E. (1997) Mineralogy of meteorite groups (Meteoritics 32-2, 1997, 231-247). AFANASIEV S.V. et al. (2000) Dhofar 007 and NWA 011: Two new eucrites of different types (MAPS 35-5, 2000, Suppl., A019). Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
> By the way, if anyone can pronounce my address and locality correctly (see > email signature below), they win the right to check out the Aubres fragments > I listed on my website last night at http://fernlea.tripod.com/sale1.html Sorry, I forgot the "Fife" - it's like "life" Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thursday's Shameless Ebay Plug
I have auctions ending tonight. (I also promise not to spam the list with half a dozen notices to these auctions!!!) Follow this link: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/catchafallingstar.com/ Thanks... Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
[meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > By the way, if anyone can pronounce my address and locality correctly (see > email signature below), they win the right to check out the Aubres fragments > I listed on my website last night at http://fernlea.tripod.com/sale1.html OK ... Let's try > Fernlea Meteorites, > The Wynd, > Off Dickson Lane, > Milton of Balgonie, > Near Glenrothes, > Fife. Fern pronounced like the plant The Wynd - pronunciation like in the word "bind" Balgonie - here I can only guess: "Bal" like "pal", "gon" like "gone", "nie" like "lee" Glen like the "en" in the word "den" and ... "rothes" like the "othes" in "clothes" :-) Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Meteorite pronunciation
In a message dated 04/04/02 12:54:52 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Fern pronounced like the plant The Wynd - pronunciation like in the word "bind" Balgonie - here I can only guess: "Bal" like "pal", "gon" like "gone", "nie" like "lee" Glen like the "en" in the word "den" and ... "rothes" like the "othes" in "clothes" :-) >> You were very, very close Bernd! Glenrothes (the town & the meteorite) is normally pronounced "Glen-roth-iss" but I sometimes hear some Scots saying "Glen-roth-ease". Rob. http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563 Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation
One easier to pronounce than Cat Mountain is Twodot, Montana. Say: 2 . Interesting mention of Mocs. I thought that was a no-brainer but then we named our son Lukas. Only later we were told how to pronounce it. Cheers, Martin On 4/4/02 2:25 AM, "Paul Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Tom and List, > > Jim has had a very intense few days at work this week so I'm not sure if he > had time to respond or not to your request. Since it's 1:11am I'm not > going to call him... :-) > > We would be happy to keep a list of "pronunskiations" on both > MeteoriteTimes.com and meterite.com > > I will work on a real time database interface for ease of submitting and > viewing. This way you can > view the list to see if it's already there before submitting. > > I'll let the democracy of the list decide if you Jim and I to be the > keepers of the list. > > Best Wishes To All, > > Paul and Jim > > > > Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jim Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. http://www.meteorite.com > MeteoriteTimes.com Magazine http://www.meteoritetimes.com > PMB#455 P.O. Box 7000, Redondo Beach, CA 90277 USA > FAX Number(310) 316-1032 > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
Orgueil = Or-gay Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation In a message dated 4/3/2002 2:33:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I mean, how DO you say "Gao Guenie"buggered if I know! I assume Gao rhymes with Tao. Guenie? You've got me. Rhymes with Benny? --Rob You got that one right! Gao like Tao, Guenie like Gwen - Knee Now who wants to try "Orgueil" or "L'Aigle" or "Tafassasset" ? Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation
How about Juancheng? I've heard several different pronumciations. David H. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation
How about "Oh-des-ah"? Odessa; pretty simple, unless your from where they would call it O-dee-sa, or Odd-es-sa. LouisanaO-dee-soh, more shrimp in the gumbo please. Dave F. David Hardy wrote: >How about Juancheng? I've heard several different pronumciations. > >David H. > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
That is NOT Castillian Spanish, I have been to Spain many times, and nver heard the LL pronounced and other way. Now in Castillian Spanish, the s is pronounced with lisp, to sound like a z. - Original Message - From: Fred Olsen To: Matt Morgan ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation In 1997 when I visited with Mr. Silva, who was still the mayor of La Criolla, Entre Rios, Argentina, he pronounced it La Cri o Ja. I am told that in Castilian Spanish which the Argentineans speak the LL is pronounced as a "J". - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:38 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation How about La Criolla? I heard from Eduardo (meteorites.com) say it like "La Crioche". Is that correct or was my hearing messed? Same with Mocs, Gero Kurat from Vienna said "Mocsh". Werid to me. Matt -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:32 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciationIn a message dated 4/3/2002 2:33:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I mean, how DO you say "Gao Guenie"buggered if I know! I assume Gao rhymes with Tao. Guenie? You've got me. Rhymes with Benny? --Rob You got that one right! Gao like Tao, Guenie like Gwen - Knee Now who wants to try "Orgueil" or "L'Aigle" or "Tafassasset" ? Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] NASA Dryden, Southwest Research Institute Search For Vulcanoids
NASA Dryden Flight Research Center Public Affairs Office Edwards, CA 93523 (661) 276-3449 FAX (661) 276-3566 NASA DRYDEN, SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE SEARCH FOR VULCANOIDS Search focused on a small group of asteroids that may be orbiting near the sun April 3, 2002 Release: 02-20 Southwest Research Institute (SwRI), in collaboration with NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards, Calif., has begun an innovative high-altitude observation program to search for a long-sought population of diminutive asteroids that may be circling near the sun in the innermost frontier of the solar system. Called "vulcanoids" after the Roman god of fire and metallurgy, this hypothesized population of small asteroids is exceedingly difficult to observe from the ground because they orbit so near the sun. Researchers have made previous ground-based searches for vulcanoids during total solar eclipses, during the brief twilight period after sunset before the vulcanoids themselves set, and just before sunrise after the vulcanoids have peaked above the horizon. So far, those observations have succeeded only in placing limits on how many vulcanoids might exist, with no vulcanoids yet found. SwRI theoretical models suggest that a modest population of a few hundred kilometer-size and larger vulcanoids could have survived the harsh dynamic environment of the solar system, far interior to the orbit of the planet Mercury, from primordial times to the present. The relative faintness of the vulcanoids against a twilight sky, along with atmospheric hazes and turbulence, have restricted ground-based searches to fairly bright limiting magnitudes corresponding to objects at least 12 to 37 miles (20-60 kilometers) across. During the three-flight observation campaign, two SwRI astronomers took a sophisticated digital imaging system, the Southwest Universal Imaging System--Airborne (SWUIS-A), into the stratosphere in a high-performance F/A-18 jet aircraft used by NASA Dryden to support flight research missions. This was the first phase of two observation series this year, with the second scheduled about the time of the autumnal equinox. "Our vulcanoids search program, conducted from an altitude of 49,000 feet over the Mojave Desert, gave us a view of the twilight sky near the sun that is far darker and clearer than can be obtained from the ground," said principal investigator Dr. Daniel D. Durda, a senior research scientist in the SwRI Space Studies Department in Boulder, Colo. "Our observations with the SWUIS-A imaging system will result in the most comprehensive, constraining search yet conducted for these objects," added co-investigator Dr. Alan Stern, director of the SwRI Space Studies Department. "SWUIS-A is a versatile and capable, low-cost astronomical imaging system developed by SwRI that operates in the in the broadband visible light and near-infrared spectrums. It has been successfully flown since 1997 in cooperation with NASA Johnson Space Center and NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Another version was flown on two space shuttle missions during the late 1990s, focusing on cometary, lunar and planetary observations in the ultraviolet regions of the spectrum." NASA research pilot Rick Searfoss, a former space shuttle astronaut and Dryden's project manager for this year's airborne astronomy missions, said the opportunity to fly SwRI's SWUIS-A instrument on one of Dryden's two-seat F/A-18B aircraft is a unique win-win project. "In employing high-performance operational aerospace vehicles like a space shuttle orbiter or F/A-18 Hornet, sensors and telescopes aboard the vehicles can obtain better data than equivalent ground-based systems," he said. "While space shuttle-based astronomy missions have produced phenomenal results, any space mission is a very expensive and difficult undertaking. "This small airborne astronomy project is being done at absolutely no additional cost to NASA or the public," Searfoss added. "Our research pilots must fly a certain number of night flights anyway for our proficiency requirements, but in working with SwRI, we can also contribute to an exciting pure research goal. It's the perfect blend of science and flight operations." The vulcanoids zone is one of the few dynamically stable niches of the solar system that remains largely unexplored. Researchers believe this presumed reservoir of small objects could contain a sample of planet-building material left over from the earliest days of the inner solar system. Because of the intense thermal conditions and comparatively harsh collisional environment characteristic of this region, the vulcanoids population also might contain unique mineral assemblages not seen in other populations farther from the sun, such as asteroids and comets. In addition, because vulcanoids would impact and crater Mercury yet spare nearby bodies, knowing how many vulcanoids may exist will aid researchers' understanding of that planet's surface chronology and the impact
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation
One that I mispronounced was yilmia which I said yil-me-a. I have been told the correct pronouncation is ya-mi. The ya as in yuk and the i in mi as eye. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com "You might be a meteorite collector if you know words in 30 languages and can't pronounce any of them correctly." __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I always pronounced Juancheng as jwan-cheng Clear Skies & Happy Hunting, Jay Haynes IMCA Member #:6905 www.geocities.com/cdnastronomer/meteorite.html >From: David Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation >Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 07:34:27 -0800 (PST) > >How about Juancheng? I've heard several different pronumciations. > >David H. > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite pronunciation website
I think it would be a great idea for Paul & Jim to put in on their site seeing they could probably maintain it better then I can. You guys have my vote. Clear Skies & Happy Hunting, Jay Haynes IMCA Member #:6905 www.geocities.com/cdnastronomer/meteorite.html Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Delaware, Arkansas and Moravka, Czech Republic
Hello everyone: I have listed several slices of the new Arkansas meteorite provisionally called Delaware on my web site (www.schoolersinc.com). I am interested in acquiring a specimen of Moravka, Czech Republic. Can anyone supply a slice or fragment? Please contact me direct. Thanks, John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
What about that wonderful Welsh meteorite, Pontlyfni (did I spell that right? I don't have my little blue book in front of me, so there's a good chance I destroyed it) Any Welsh speakers out there want to give it a go? Arabic and Spanish and Portuguese and French meteorite names aren't the only ones that will tie your tongue in knots! Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
French meteorite names I dont really have problem with (took french for almost 8 years). Speaking of which, i have heart many people refer to the St. Roberts meteorite by saying well how it looks. You actually have to put the french accent on it and say it as St. Ro-bear. Quebec is funny that way. :-) Clear Skies & Happy Hunting, Jay Haynes IMCA Member #:6905 www.geocities.com/cdnastronomer/meteorite.html >From: Tracy Latimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation >Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:09:23 -1000 (HST) > >What about that wonderful Welsh meteorite, Pontlyfni (did I spell that >right? I don't have my little blue book in front of me, so there's a good >chance I destroyed it) Any Welsh speakers out there want to give it a go? >Arabic and Spanish and Portuguese and French meteorite names aren't the >only ones that will tie your tongue in knots! > >Tracy Latimer > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Origin Of Mysterious Subterranean Gases Identified, Says Researcher
Department of Public Affairs University of Toronto Toronto, Ontario CONTACT: Professor Barbara Sherwood Lollar Director, Stable Isotope Laboratory Department of Geology ph: (416) 978-0770; email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U of T Public Affairs ph: (416) 978-0260; email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] April 3, 2002 Origin of mysterious subterranean gases identified, says researcher Gases similar to those that may have played a part in the formation of the earliest life on the planet By Lanna Crucefix Evidence of gases similar to those that may have played a part in the formation of the earliest life on the planet has been found by a U of T geochemist. Until now, it has been assumed that any evidence of the abiogenic, or non-life-based, reactions that created the first simple hydrocarbons on the early Earth had been erased by the organic reactions that have dominated Earth since the evolution and proliferation of complex life. However, Barbara Sherwood Lollar, a professor in the department of geology and lead researcher of the study published in the April 4 issue of Nature, has found evidence of abiogenic gases in underground mines. Life on Earth probably began from simple organic compounds, including hydrocarbons that were formed from abiogenic reactions involving water, carbon dioxide and methane. Hydrocarbon gases have been found in deep rocks and groundwaters at sites throughout the Canadian Shield and in Scandinavia and southern Africa. "All of these areas are geologically similar, made of Precambrian rocks which are billions of years old," she says. The gases are usually trapped in fracture systems throughout the rock and are released when mine drilling penetrates these rocks. Gases from mines have been reported anecdotally from miners as far back as the 1880s, says Sherwood Lollar, but their origin was a mystery. "Gases are usually formed through microbial, or thermogenic processes (which create oil and natural gas fields) but neither of these processes was thought to occur in Precambrian rocks two kilometres under the Earth's surface, which is the depth that our samples came from." Sherwood Lollar and her team examined certain gases from a mine near Timmins, Ontario. Analyses of the gases' carbon and hydrogen isotope ratios found that the gases matched hydrocarbons known to be the result of abiotic reactions. "Until now, these types of gases had only been known through laboratory experimentation, and from extraterrestrial samples such as meteorites," Sherwood Lollar says. The presence of these hydrocarbon gases deep in the earth raises another exciting possibility, Sherwood Lollar says. "In recent years it has been discovered that life on Earth extends far deeper than ever thought possible. Deep microbial communities have been discovered several kilometres under the Earth's surface and debate has raged over what these microbes could be using as a food source." According to Sherwood Lollar, the hydrocarbon and hydrogen gases could be a food source. "These deep biosphere bacteria could 'digest' the gases through a form of chemosynthesis -- similar to that known to support life at the deep sea vents -- using the chemicals in the gases in order to get energy for life." Funding for this study was provided by the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada and in part by Falconbridge Ltd. [Lanna Crucefix is an assistant news services officer with the Department of Public Affairs.] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Impact Events' Kinetic Energy May Be Key to Understanding the Severity of Mass Extinctions
http://www.geosociety.org/news/pr/02-19.htm Geological Society of America Boulder, Colorado Contact: Ann Cairns Director Communications and Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED], 303-357-1056 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 3, 2002 GSA Release No. 02-19 Impact Events' Kinetic Energy May Be Key to Understanding the Severity of Mass Extinctions By Kara LeBeau, GSA Staff Writer The kinetic energy created by asteroid and comet impacts with the Earth may be key to linking some impacts with mass extinction events. Michael Lucas, a geology student at Florida Gulf Coast University, believes that the severity of four extinction events during the Mesozoic and Cenozoic can be correlated with the total kinetic energy released by impacts that occur during the geologic age of the mass extinction. Lucas will present his findings April 4 at the Geological Society of America's North-Central Section and Southeastern Section Joint Meeting in Lexington, Kentucky. Lucas analyzed the kinetic energy released by 31 of the largest impact structures from the last 248 million years and correlated them with the Norian, Tithonian, Late Eocene, and K-T extinction events. The impact energy released during the geologic ages of each extinction event is at least 10 million megatons of TNT equivalent yield per geologic age. Lucas believes that this could represent a minimum impact energy required to cause a global-scale mass extinction. His research results also reveal that synchronous multiple impact events could also have caused extinctions. "Approximately ten percent of the impact structures on Earth are doublets or twin structures, suggesting a nearly simultaneous impact of binary asteroids or fragmented comets," he said. An example of a twin impact structure would be the Kara / Ust-Kara twin impact structure in Russia which is about 73 million years old. CONTACT INFORMATION: Michael P. Lucas College of Arts & Sciences Florida Gulf Coast University 10501 FGCU Blvd. South Ft. Myers FL 33965 USA E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (941) 590-7225 Abstract available at: http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2002NC/finalprogram/abstract_32110.htm Geological Society of America Southeastern Section and North-Central Section Joint Meeting April 3-5, 2002 Hyatt Regency Hotel and Lexington Civic Center Lexington, KY For information and assistance during the meeting, please see the media assistant at the GSA registration table or call 859-253-1234. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Last fall of millenium
Hi Christian, You're absolutely right about Tagish Lake vs. Moravka -- I mistakenly remembered Tagish Lake falling in January 2001. Hard to believe that it has already been over 2 years since that fall! Best, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] presentation slides - help!
Hello, I have been asked to give a presentation on meteorites and meteoritics to the Brighton Astronomy Society - I need to get hold of suitable stuff I can print out onto transparencies ie pics of asteroid belts, simple diagrams, classic meteorite specimens... Anyone got any of this sort of stuff I could borrow (and credit, of course). I hate reinventing the wheel, especially as I just know someone out there will have done it better and rounded off the corners... very best! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.meteoritecollectors.org "I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n>2. However, it won't fit into my signature file" __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Radar Pushes Limit Of Asteroid Impact Prediction
In addition to this press release, we have information on asteroid 1950 DA available here on the NEO website: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/1950da/ This section includes images of the asteroid, a radar movie, simulations of the asteroid's orbit, and a video segment narrated by Jon Giorgini. Ron Baalke --- MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Contact: Martha J. Heil (818) 354-0850 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 4, 2002 RADAR PUSHES LIMITS OF ASTEROID IMPACT PREDICTION Applying unprecedented refinements to the analysis of celestial hazards, NASA astronomers have identified a potential close encounter with Earth more than eight centuries in the future by an asteroid two-thirds of a mile (one kilometer) wide. What will most likely be a miss, even without preventive measures, will come on March 16, 2880, said Jon Giorgini, a senior engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Odds for a collision are at most one in 300, and probably even more remote, based on what is known about the asteroid so far. Still, that makes this space rock, named 1950 DA, a greater hazard than any other known asteroid. "This is not something to worry about," said Giorgini, leader of a team reporting about the asteroid in the April 5 edition of the journal Science. "We're showing that searches with optical telescopes and follow-up observations with radar telescopes can provide us centuries of advance notice about potential close encounters of asteroids with Earth. That's plenty of time to consider the options -- 35 generations, in fact." "This report is a success story for our efforts to identify potential troublemakers," said JPL's Dr. Don Yeomans, manager of the NASA Near Earth Object Program. "Radar observations are helping us push predictions 5 to 10 times further into the future." This report differs from previous ones about other asteroids' Earth-impact potential. Estimates of impact risks in earlier cases came from a few nights' optical observations of newly found asteroids. Astronomers soon ruled out the possible impacts after a few more observations narrowed uncertainties about the asteroids' orbits. The current orbit of 1950 DA has been mapped with great accuracy using precise radar data and a 51-year span of optical data. Uncertainty about how close it will come to Earth in 2880 stems from gaps in knowing physical details of the asteroid that could subtly alter its course over the centuries. "How close 1950 DA will approach Earth turns out to depend on the asteroid's physical attributes -- it's size, shape and mass, and how it spins, reflects light and radiates heat into space," Giorgini said. These things are unlikely to be known any time soon. The way the asteroid radiates energy absorbed from the Sun back into space has the biggest potential effect, he said. Releasing heat in one direction nudges the asteroid in the opposite direction. The resulting acceleration is tiny, but over the centuries acts like a weak rocket and could make the difference between a hit and a miss. Asteroid 1950 DA was discovered from Lick Observatory, Mount Hamilton, Calif., in 1950. It faded from view for five decades then was found from Lowell Observatory in Arizona in 2000. Astronomers used large dish antennas of NASA's Deep Space Network site at Goldstone, Calif., and the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico to examine the asteroid with radar when it passed at a distance 21 times farther away than the Moon in March 2001. "Once an asteroid is discovered, radar is the most powerful way to find its exact orbit and, apart from sending a spacecraft, the only way to see what it looks like," said JPL's Dr. Steve Ostro, who led the radar observations of 1950 DA. Giorgini refined calculations of future orbits by including factors such as the push from sunshine and the potential gravitational tug from 7,000 other asteroids and nearby stars. Effects of each small influence on the asteroid's movement could be amplified by 15 gravitational tugs during close approaches to Earth and Mars -- none of which have any chance of an impact -- prior to 2880. "It's like predicting a 15-bank shot in a pool game," Giorgini said. "We know the cue stroke extremely well because it is right now and we can measure it. But at each future bank, small variations accumulate and change the next bounce, which changes the following one and so on. What we've done is find the range of changes possible due to tilt, imperfections and fuzz on the table, the bounce of the cushions, and wind blowing across the room. We need to know more about the 'cue ball' to really be sure
[meteorite-list] Tweak Temperatures of Smaller Asteroids To Deflect Them From Earth, UA Scientist Suggests
TWEAK TEMPERATURES OF SMALLER ASTEROIDS TO DEFLECT THEM FROM EARTH, UA SCIENTIST SUGGESTS >From Lori Stiles, University of Arizona News Services, 520-621-1877 April 4, 2002 Humans could deflect small but dangerous asteroids from Earth by changing how much sunlight the asteroids reflect, a University of Arizona planetary scientist suggests in the current issue (April 5) of Science. Possible schemes might include covering the upper few centimeters of the asteroid with dirt, or painting its surface white, or fusing part of its surface with a spaceborne solar collector all technically feasible and civically preferable to launching a nuclear warhead to blast an incoming asteroid off course. Changing how much heat a space rock radiates will change how it drifts in its orbit because of the Yarkovsky effect, said Joseph N. Spitale of the UA Lunar and Planetary Laboratory in his article, "Asteroid Hazard Mitigation Using the Yarkovsky Effect." The Yarkovsky effect is a long-known but long-obscure phenomenon named for the Polish engineer who first described it around 1900. The effect is caused because when an unevenly heated body re-radiates heat, hotter spots are subjected to a stronger recoil force than are cooler spots. As I.O. Yarkovsky noted, the differences in momentum nudge the object so that it drifts slightly in its orbit, Spitale said. The effect is a relatively small force, but it accumulates through time. Not until the mid-1990s did planetary scientists begin to realize how important the Yarkovsky effect is in calculating motions of asteroid fragments in the belt between Mars and Jupiter. These include Cornell University's William F. Bottke Jr., David P. Rubincam of NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Paolo Farinella of the University of Pisa in Italy, David Vokrouhlicky of Charles University in the Czech Republic, and William Hartmann of the Planetary Science Institute in Tucson. The mechanism explains why more asteroid fragments than otherwise can be predicted are launched from the main asteroid belt toward Earth, hitting as meteorites, according to their papers. And it explains how space rocks can drift for millions of years before arriving at main belt asteroid "resonance" zones from which they're flung to the inner solar system, they conclude. "It's pretty clear that this is an important effect when it comes to getting material from the asteroid belt to the inner planets," Spitale said in an interview. He's working to develop a sophisticated thermal model to use to precisely calculate Yarkovsky drift for specific asteroids. Asteroid shape, spin, composition and surface details all must be factored in to get a precise orbit for a specific asteroid. In his Science article, Spitale describes his calculations of Yarkovsky drift for three stony near-Earth asteroids, 6489 Golevka (300 meters diameter), 1566 Icarus (one kilometer diameter) and 1620 Geographos (2.5 kilometers diameter). The idea then is to change a threatening asteroid's surface temperatures so that, over decades or centuries, its orbit veers away from Earth. "You might take one of the smaller bare-rock bodies and put a lot of dirt on it, for a dramatic change in thermal conductivity," Spitale said. "Blanketing the asteroid with a centimeter of dirt is technically feasible, but it would be expensive. "Another way you could do it would be to paint it. If you could cover the surface with a millimeter of white material, you could 'turn off' the Yarkovsky effect altogether. That could produce a fairly big change in where the body would be in another century or so. "This would be effective in another approach, suggested by Jay Melosh (UA professor of planetary sciences). It is to use a solar collector - basically just a big dish that focuses sunlight on a body to fuse a region of the surface and blast off mass, so the object changes course because of its different mass. But in the process of this, you'd also change the thermal conductivity of the asteroid, giving it a new orbit also because of the Yarkovsky effect." Spitale said the proposed technique would be useless for a large asteroid or an asteroid less than decades away from Earth. "This technique will work best on objects the size of Golevka or smaller (300 meters, about 1,000 feet, or smaller). An object that size could do damage to the better part of a country. Even a 100-meter or 50-meter object can take out a good part of a city." "The biggest technical problem right now with this approach is just doing the calculations to understand how we'd actually be affecting the orbit by doing something to an asteroid surface," Spitale said. If the orbit is miscalculated, an object on course to deliver Earth a glancing blow may be "mitigated" into an object on course to deliver a direct hit. The flip side of that is, you need a good model to compute Yarkovsky effect perturbations even to know which asteroids pose real hazards, Spitale added. "That may be the most importan
[meteorite-list] Bensour
I want to say a big thank you to Mike Farmer, my 2 Bensour specimens arrived today and they are beauties! Folks regardless of who you get them from these are REALLY fresh and just gorgeous meteorites.I plan to add a photo of at least one of them to my web site's meteorite photo collection page in the next few days. Regards to all, Tom Randall IMCA# 6170 www.idsi.net/~trandall/welcome.html -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: y
why not? >From: "Tettenborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "harlan trammell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: y >Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:33:54 -0500 > >y? > >Mike Tettenborn > - Original Message - > From: harlan trammell > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:54 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] x > > > x > > >-- > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try this one!
I still like Kittakittaooloo, a H4, from South Australia! :) That shouldn`t be too hard to pronounce. Dave - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: Ing. Christian ANGER ; Meteorite-List@Meteoritecentral. Com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Try this one! That is nothing, try Muonionaluista, an iron from Sweden, pronounces moo ni oona loosta Mike Famrer - Original Message - From: Ing. Christian ANGER To: Meteorite-List@Meteoritecentral. Com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation Ever heard of Zaklodzie ? "Sa gwod shee" Christian ** Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: [meteorite-list] NASA To Return Meteorites To Space
Get ready eBayhere they come ! I know the odds are astronomical (pun slightly intended), but I can just see the headlines and can imagine the lawyers lining up, if one would happen to hit someone/something. Craig __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
So how do you pronounce NWA 482? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Kudos to Farmer
I also want to give Mike a BIG thank you! I`ve just received my 79g. oriented piece from him today. Very Coool! Thanks Mike!!! :) Dave - Original Message - From: Rob and Colleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: meteorite-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:40 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Kudos to Farmer > Hello all- > I too got a prize in the mail today and these really are amazing stones. > Rich powdery fusion crusts, all kinds of flight detail, little cocoa > covered bon-bons dropped from the heavens. Truly beyond my expectations > and hands down the best price ever paid for brand spankin' new, > witnessed, two countries in one blow meteorites. Thank you Michael. I > haven't been able to take my eyes off them. Even the wife raised an > eyebrow before returning to the baby's dinner! > P.S. The baby showed great interest, there is hope. > Bon soir, > > -- > Rob Wesel > -- > We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: y
Z. >From: "harlan trammell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: y >Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 00:09:17 > _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --- Begin Message --- why not? >From: "Tettenborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "harlan trammell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: y >Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:33:54 -0500 > >y? > >Mike Tettenborn > - Original Message - > From: harlan trammell > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:54 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] x > > > x > > >-- > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- End Message ---
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite pronunciation
In a message dated 4/4/2002 8:58:46 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Orgueil = Or-gay > >Rhett Bourland sorry but it is not really that! the final sound is closer to the english "buy" but I do not find really an equivalent in english! May be the sound in "gut" is closer Pierre This one is very tricky. Let me try this: The first part is easy: org just like org(an) The second part could sound like oil if you would replace the O sound by something like the E in (butt)E(r). Can you try that??? (and I can just picture a whole bunch of people trying it out loud. Very funny!!) Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] Re: meteorite pronunciation
All, Hey, if you thought Sikote-Alin was difficult, try a few astronomical names like "Zubenelgenubi." There is a web site which teaches one how to pronounce star names. It spells the name out, gives the phonetic spelling, and if you click on the little button you'll hear a nice female voice actually say the name a couple of times. Something like this could be done with meteorite names. That someone would not be me, of course, as my tech skills are limited and my voice not sexy enough. "In space, no one can hear you mangle the names..." Bob MartinoCan you really name a star? http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ "I look up to the heavens but night has clouded over no spark of constellation no Vela no Orion." -Enya __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: meteorite pronunciation
At 09:26 PM 4/4/02 -0500, Bob Martino wrote: >There is a web site which teaches one how to pronounce star names. It >spells the name out, gives the phonetic spelling, and if you click on the >little button you'll hear a nice female voice actually say the name a >couple of times. > >Something like this could be done with meteorite names. That someone would >not be me, of course, as my tech skills are limited and my voice not sexy >enough. I nominate Anne Black. She has a very impressive voice. John John Gwilliam Meteorites PO Box 26854 Tempe AZ 85285 http://www.meteoriteimpact.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites Collection Box $ 450
Dear List I present you www.meteorites.cl the most complete collection of Atacama Dessert Meteorites, represented by 15 specimens: Cerro del Inca, Guanaco, Quebrada del Leon, Imilac, North Chile, Pampa A, B, C, D, F and G, Rencoret, Vaca Muerta regular, V.M.Eucrite and V.M.Olivine Cluster. Most of these meteorites were found for me and were classified by Michael Zolensky (NASA), John Wasson and Alan Rubin (UCLA). The Meteorite Box was made with wood from sequoia tree, used for building houses during the peak of the saltpeter industry at the Atacama desert between 1840 and 1910. The information regarding each meteorite was carved in a coppper sheet, the most represantitive product of the mining industry from this Desert. Price: $ 450 Box dimensions: 21 x 14 x 4 cm. Every meteorite nest has 3.5 cm as diameter Box Weight: 800gr. Best Regards Rodrigo Martinez Atacama Desert Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.meteorites.cl __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: meteorite pronunciation
In a message dated 4/4/2002 8:22:16 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Something like this could be done with meteorite names. That someone would >not be me, of course, as my tech skills are limited and my voice not sexy >enough. I nominate Anne Black. She has a very impressive voice. John Thank you John!!! I am honored, but my tech, skills are very limited too. And I would probably scramble the english and american ones. :-) Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: meteorite pronunciation
My vote goes to list member Dave "male model" Freeman. The other IMCA directors and I have been impressed by his professional modeling skills with the sweat shirt he made and I have a feeling his voice is just as wonderful. ;) Wadda ya say Dave? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Gwilliam Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:55 PM To: Bob Martino; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: meteorite pronunciation At 09:26 PM 4/4/02 -0500, Bob Martino wrote: >There is a web site which teaches one how to pronounce star names. It >spells the name out, gives the phonetic spelling, and if you click on the >little button you'll hear a nice female voice actually say the name a >couple of times. > >Something like this could be done with meteorite names. That someone would >not be me, of course, as my tech skills are limited and my voice not sexy >enough. I nominate Anne Black. She has a very impressive voice. John John Gwilliam Meteorites PO Box 26854 Tempe AZ 85285 http://www.meteoriteimpact.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: meteorite pronunciation
I recorded my best attempts at the pronunciation of Orgueil and L'Aigle. http://www.pibburns.com/laigle.mp3 http://www.pibburns.com/orgueil.mp3 They're mp3 encoded, which most recent computer systems can handle. -- Philip R. "Pib" Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pibburns.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: meteorite pronunciation
Thanks Pib Good rolling r's and fading l's. Gonna have to vote for the sexy voice though, I think you might have blown one of my speakers on Orgueil. This has been a fun thread, we all say these names as we see fit and often give the funny look to the person who says it in their own, different way leaving us to question what we have decided in our minds. I have been surprised by the true pronunciations provided here by the locals, I've been way off the mark on so many. The website is a great idea and kudos to whoever has the savy and time to create such a list. The wav or MP3 files are also a wonderful idea. It's just one of those odds and ends that needs to be addressed so we don't sound like baffoons. If Anne's out then Tracy, Ginger..up for a little voice work? Or maybe we could get Kim Bassingeris that Kim Bay-singer or Kim Bass-injure? -- Rob Wesel --- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 Philip R. Burns wrote: > I recorded my best attempts at the pronunciation of Orgueil and L'Aigle. > > http://www.pibburns.com/laigle.mp3 > http://www.pibburns.com/orgueil.mp3 > > They're mp3 encoded, which most recent computer systems can handle. > > -- Philip R. "Pib" Burns > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pibburns.com/ > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
