[meteorite-list] meteorites hitting people
Hi, For those who want a published source: the mentioned Mbale incident (the boy hit) with a picture is mentioned in the MAPS publication on Mbale (Jenniskens et al., Meteoritics vol. 29 (1994), no. 2, p. 246-254). It concerned a 3 grams piece. There has also been a news and views item in Nature with the picture of the boy that same month. The 1648 incident which Mateo mentioned concerns the VOC (Dutch East Indian Company) vessel 'Malacca' on route from the Netherlands to the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) in 1648, and is described by the Swede Olof Eriksson Willman, who is considered a reliable historic source. Yet the truth remains uncertain. The vessel Malacca however indeed reached Batavia in 1648. For a discussion of this all with translation of the Swedish text of Willman, see the paper by Wickman, GFF 115 (1993), 297-298. For those interested in meteorites hitting objects, the story and pictures of the Dutch Glanerbrug which crashed through a roof can be found on my website on Dutch Meteorites: http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek/dutchmet.html - Marco (Dutch Meteor Society) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] happy day
Hi folks I've just got the classification results from my first find ( the first recognised meteorite in Qatar?) It is an H5 chondrite. The shock stage is S3 (undulatory extinction and planar fractures in olivine). got another very good prospect just poking its nose out of the ground ( only found it parking the range rover on easy terrain so that its temporary clutch hyd failure did'nt strand me !) Xrf analysis shows a fair differance to the classified one. ( wonder if i can sell it still in the ground ? I know one Mohammed with the metal detector to die for desperate to find a meteorite!) all the best a happyhappy col __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My sale site now go
Hello all I inform all my sale site now go www.mcomemeteorite.com is no many nice but I no know many the html language, is good for have a on line list of my meteorites for sale. Now I hope the same for my collection site. Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] German meteorite
Hello all, It's confirmed. The Bavarian bolide IS a meteorite, fragmented in 3 larges fragments. This information was confirmed by the Munich satellite survey station .One video show the fall of this meteorite. Its possible to get this video from any WWW Page ?? (like in Peekskill or Moravka) Maybe someone can decode this video to AVI or MPEG ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]--[ IMCA#3667 ]- http://www.meteoryt.net Meteorite Information Center http://www.polandmet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.studiomc.com.pl[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vistapro.prv.pl +GSM (607) 535 195 - __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] German meteorite
In a message dated 4/11/02 5:00:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's confirmed. The Bavarian bolide IS a meteorite, fragmented in 3 larges fragments. This information was confirmed by the Munich satellite survey station .One video show the fall of this meteorite. As of my readings there hasn't been a recovery yet, correct? Fireballs in the sky doesn't mean meteorites on the ground. I archive fireball reports for the North American Meteor Network and we record dozens of bright to very bright fireballs each month. Even the last July 23rd fireball over Pa., that was seen in 6 states and Canada did not yield any meteorites (that we know of). KK ~~~ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Important mesaage to friends and customers!
Dear Michael: Our Deepest heartfelt condolences to you and the family. These are difficult tragedies that enter our lives out of nowhere it seems...and there is not very much another can say ..., except that we are sad for your, and the childrens, heartache and feel your loss. Blessing to you, and especially the children... I wish there was something we could doit just sucks. Prayers and blessings; Jake and Stacey Delgaudio Jake Delgaudio The Nature Source Meteorites Fossils Queensbury, NY 12804 Member: The Meteoritical Society Member: AAPS/American Association of Paleontological Suppliers Member: International Meteorite Collectors Association #4262 webiste: www.nature-source.com phone: 518-761-6702 Fax: 518-798-9107 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet Discoverer Hyakutake Dies At 51
http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=newscat=1id=210973 Comet discoverer Hyakutake dies at 51 Kyodo News April 11, 2002 KAGOSHIMA - Yuji Hyakutake, an amateur Japanese astronomer who discovered Comet Hyakutake in 1996, died Wednesday evening in Kagoshima Prefecture, due to internal bleeding caused by a heart aneurysm, his family said Thursday. He was 51. Hyakutake, a native of Nagasaki Prefecture, won international acclaim after he found the new comet, using a powerful pair of binoculars on Jan 30, 1996, in the town of Hayato in Kagoshima. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Comet Discoverer Hyakutake Dies At 51
This is indeed very sad news. I've talked to him on the phone once, though Yuji does not speak very good English. He will always be remembered for the comet. Here's the link to the Comet Hyakutake home page that I maintain: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/comet/hyakutake/ Also, here's are some articles in Yuji Hyakutake's own words on how he discovered the comet: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/comet/hyakutake/disc2.html http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/comet/hyakutake/disc1.html Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] After Germany, France???
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[meteorite-list] re: After Germany, France???
Hello All, This night, two extremely bright bolides were observed in France. The first, in South of France, and the second in North-East of France. Numerous people called police an fire service. Today the French police made research with metal detector in two probables fall areas. A regional french channel televison diffuseda report in the news (12:00), which will be probably repeated on France 2 this evening at 20 h:00. ( Im not see this repport on France 2 internet site, and I look for more informations.) Bolides are the same trajectory (East-West), the same color and that first three bolides (German, Belgium and Scotland). It's probablynot satellite fall. There is no significative peek of bright shooting star at this moment. These bolide would come from a very dense area of the Virginids (usually not active)or early veryhuge and bright Lyrids What's theradiant of these bolides??? http://comets.amsmeteors.org/meteors/april_radiants.html Royal observatory of Belgium confirm the two last bolides over France and precise that the very bright Netherland/Belgian bolide (7 april 00:28 UTC) is completely disintegrated and not hit the ground. Vincent Jacques MSN Photos est le moyen le plus simple de partager, modifier et imprimer vos photos préférées. Cliquez ici---BeginMessage--- MSN Photos est le moyen le plus simple de partager, modifier et imprimer vos photos préférées. Cliquez ici __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] NWA 778
Northwest Africa 778 H4 ordinary chondrite Morocco 29°25' N / 005°16' W Find 1999 9747 gr; 3 pieces OlivineFa17.5 Type specimen 70 gr. Classified by F. Brandstätter (NHMV); main mass Pani. (Met.Bull. 85, 2001, Sep). Best regs, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Hitting People/Animals
(I sent this yesterday but it doesn't appear to have been delivered by the list server. My apologies in advance if you receive a duplicate copy.) At 08:32 AM 4/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: Hello all I put here a list of probably meteorites have hitting people/animals, is in italian language but I hope easy to translate, the list is from the new book of Dr.Cevolani on Renazzo meteorite: Here is my rough translation of Matteo's list. Italian is not one of my strong suits, so I wasn't certain of how best to translate a few words. = 14 January 616 B.C.: more than 10 people died following the the fall of a meteorite on the field (camp?) of the rebellious Lu Ming-yeuh. The meteorite destroyed a war tower (Siege engine?). July-August 1020: some people were killed by a rain of meteorites in North Africa. Around 1341: a lot of people and animals were struck down by an iron rain from the sky. February-March 1490: Stones fell as rain. More than 10,000 people died in the district of Ch'ing-yang in the Province of Shansi in China. The stones weighed 1 - 1.5 kgs. September 14th 1511: a monk and quite a lot of animals fell victim at Cremona, Lombardy, Italy to the fall of many stones next to the river Adda. The stones weighed at least 50 kgs. 1633 (?): a monk perished in Milan from a wound to his leg caused by the fall of a meteorite. 1639: a big stone fell on a market killing about ten people and destroying some houses in Ch'ang-shou province in China. 1648: two sailors lost their lives following the fall of a meteorite onto a ship sailing from Holland to Batavia. July 24th 1790: a meteorite fell on a farmer's house killing a farmer(?) and some livestock in Gascogne, France. January 16th 1825: a man was killed and a woman wounded by the fall of a meteorite in Oriang, Malwate, India. June 30th 1874: during a storm, a big stone fell from the sky in Chin-kuei Shan, China, destroying a house and killing a child. January 31st 1879: a farmer was killed by a meteorite at Dun-le-Poelier, Indre, France. September 5th 1907: a stone fell from the sky and killed a whole family in Hsin-p'ai Wei, China. June 30th 1908: two men were killed along with about a hundred reindeer during the Tunguska event in Siberia, Russia. December 8th 1829: a person was killed during a wedding in Zvezvan, Yugoslavia. = -- Philip R. Pib Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pibburns.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] display accessories
Thank you all who replied I really appreciate it. I think I have found what I am looking for and should turn out reallly good. Clear Skies Happy Hunting, Jay Haynes IMCA Member #:6905 www.geocities.com/cdnastronomer/meteorite.html From: "Bill Mason III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jay Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] display accessories Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:55:46 -0700 Jay, A source in Tucson called "The Mineral Fossil CO-OP, 1635Oracle Road Tucson, Arizona (520) 617-0207 Ask for Bill Barker. The display stand business is in the co-op. Bill Mason III - Original Message - From: Jay Haynes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] display accessories Hi list, I am putting in a huge display in june and totally rebuilt my display case. Does anyone know where I can get those little plastic display things that i could put a slice on as well as the ones that I could put a whole meteorite on? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Clear Skies Happy Hunting, Jay Haynes IMCA Member #:6905 www.geocities.com/cdnastronomer/meteorite.html -- Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Looking....
Hi List members, I hope you will all forgive me if I ask if anyone knows how I can contact Bob Hagerty / or Jeff Hodges - or, if you guys are on this list, please contact me. All responses, off list, please. Thanks for your time. Best wishes, Michael -- Those who suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order. - John V. Lindsay -- More Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satalite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/jFYolB/TM -- Michael Blood Meteorites for sale at: http://www.meteorite.com/Michael_Blood/catalog.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Riker mount frames
Hello all- More riker mount frames have been added to the gallery: Bensour Canyon Diablo Ensisheim NWA-2 versions Nantan SNC Be sure to get to the highest resolution image before downloading. Enjoy, http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/robandcolleen11197/lst?.dir=/Riker+Mount+Frames -- Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Some Asteroids Have Astronomers Seeing Double
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Contact: Martha J. Heil (818) 354-0850 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 11, 2002 SOME ASTEROIDS HAVE ASTRONOMERS SEEING DOUBLE Binary asteroids -- two rocky objects orbiting about one another -- appear to be common in Earth-crossing orbits, astronomers report today in the journal Science. This makes them an important new asteroid class to study in case future generations find one coming near Earth. If you see two bodies orbiting each other, you can tell how far away from each other they are and how fast they go around each other, said Dr. Lance Benner, an asteroid researcher and an author of the paper from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. This helps us to determine the asteroids' mass, volume, internal structure and what they're made of. Using the world's two most powerful astronomical radar telescopes, Benner and his colleagues, led by Jean-Luc Margot of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, estimate that about 16 percent of near-Earth asteroids larger than 200 meters (219 yards) across are likely to be binary systems. These systems may have been formed by the pull of gravity during close encounters with our planet, Mercury, Venus or Mars. The first near-Earth binary asteroid ever detected, 2000 DP107, was found by radar in September 2000 at NASA's Goldstone, Calif., tracking telescope facility. Subsequent observations were made at the National Science Foundation's Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, operated by Cornell University. Like Earth's Moon, the smaller (300-meter or 1,000-foot diameter) body always presents the same face to the larger (800 meters, or about a half-mile diameter) asteroid body as it orbits. To date, five near-Earth binary systems have been identified by radar. But none of them, adds radar astronomer Jon Giorgini, have orbits that could threaten Earth, at least through this century. Near-Earth asteroids may become binaries when the planets' much larger gravities pull on their rubble-clustered bodies, distorting them and sometimes breaking off a satellite. Theoretical and modeling results show that binary asteroids most likely form when the asteroids closely encounter the inner planets Earth or Mars, sometimes just 10,000 miles from a planet's surface. Of course, the most important thing to know about any asteroid is whether it is two objects or one, and this is why we want to observe these binaries with radar whenever possible, said Dr. Steve Ostro, a senior research scientist at JPL. Radar is the best way to identify interesting and potentially hazardous asteroids. Radar observations provide information that can be later used by spacecraft to do more detailed studies efficiently and at lower cost. Previous evidence that near-Earth binary asteroids were common came from craters on the Earth and Moon that formed in pairs and were exactly the same age. Astronomers also have noted the changes in brightness of reflected sunlight for some near-Earth asteroids, suggesting that a double system was causing an eclipse or occultation of one by the other. Jean-Luc Margot, of the California Institute of Technology, led the research. The article is also co-authored by Michael Nolan, research associate at Arecibo; Raymond Jurgens, Jon Giorgini and Martin Slade at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory; and Donald Campbell, professor of astronomy at Cornell University, Ithaca, New York. The observations were made at the 70-meter Goldstone NASA tracking telescope in California and at Arecibo Observatory, which is operated by the National Astronomy and Ionosphere Center at Cornell under a cooperative agreement with the National Science Foundation. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, manages many missions for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. More information on asteroid radar research is available at http://www.gps.Caltech.edu/~margot/2000DP107 and http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/ . # # # # # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Changing Antarctica Viewed By NASA Satellite
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Contacts: Colleen Sharkey (818) 354-0372 IMAGE ADVISORY April 11, 2002 CHANGING ANTARCTICA VIEWED BY NASA SATELLITE NASA instruments flying on the Terra satellite have observed the calving of an iceberg and the breakup of an ice shelf in Antarctica, roughly 2,100 kilometers (1,300 miles) from one another. Last month, a large crack developed in the Thwaites Tongue, a large sheet of glacial ice that extends from the West Antarctica mainland into the southern Amundsen Sea. A piece broke away, or calved, forming an iceberg designated B- 22 by the National Ice Center. In February, a section of the Larsen B ice shelf, located on the familiar finger-like Antarctic Peninsula, collapsed and broke away from the peninsula. The progression of both breakups were initially observed by NASA's Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer. Images of the subsequent calving and ice shelf breakup were captured by NASA's Multi-angle Imaging SpectroRadiometer. The B-22 iceberg images are available at: http://www-misr.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/galhistory/2002_mar_27a.html . The B-22 iceberg measures approximately 82 kilometers (about 32 miles) long by 62 kilometers (about 24 miles) wide. Comparison of the images shows the iceberg, located below and to the left of center, has drifted away from the ice shelf. The breakup of ice near the shelf edge, in the area surrounding B-22, is also visible in the later image. These natural-color images were acquired on March 10 and 24, 2002, respectively. Antarctic researchers have reported an increase in the frequency of iceberg calving in recent years. It has not yet been established if this is a result of regional climate variation or the global warming trend. The two views of the ice shelf breakup, acquired on March 7, 2002, provide helpful chemical and topographical perspectives. In the left-hand image, near-infrared, red and blue data from the Multi-angle Imaging SpectroRadiometer's nadir (vertical-viewing) camera causes water ice within the ice shelf to appear vibrant blue. Water has an intrinsic blue color due to the selective absorption of longer wavelengths such as red and infrared, and the translucent properties of ice within the collapsing shelf enables this absorption to be observed. The ice shelf images are available at: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/PIAGenCatalogPage.pl?PIA03702 Data from three different cameras on the instrument and one color channel were combined to create the multi-angle composite on the right. Because vertical protrusions or depressions within textured surfaces appear brighter on their illuminated faces, the orange color in the multi-angle composite suggests a rough ice surface. The Multi-angle Imaging SpectroRadiometer, built and managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., is one of several Earth-observing experiments aboard Terra, launched in December 1999. The instrument acquires images of Earth at nine angles simultaneously, using nine separate cameras pointed forward, downward, and backward along its flight path. The Terra mission supports NASA's Earth Science Enterprise, a long-term research effort designed to help better understand and protect our home planet. More information about the radiometer is available at http://www-misr.jpl.nasa.gov . JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2003 Seasons
Thanks to all the people that responded with the meteor shower dates info for the 2003 meteorite calendar. Can any one confirm the first day of spring, summer, fall, and winter dates for the year 2003? Please reply off list, it's not meteorite related, but it will be in the 2003 meteorite calendar. Which by the way is coming along much better than hoped. Thanks in advance once again. Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com/2003.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *AD* Vaca Muerta - Special Sale!
Dear Meteorite List members, For the month of April, R.A. Langheinrich Meteorites is holding a special sale on Vaca Muerta, the mesosiderite discovered in Chile's Atacama Desert in 1861. All specimens on sale are end cuts or half stones, with cut faces highly polished with a diamond lap. Vaca Muerta special sale page with photographs: http://www.nyrockman.com/special.htm Many other meteorites are available on our catalog page: http://www.nyrockman.com/catalog.htm New specimens listed this week include Eagle, Pampa (c), Djoumine, Monroe, and Zacatecas. Thank you for your interest. Iris Lang www.nyrockman.com www.langsfossils.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Hitting People/Animals
Let's not forget Valera. Out of all these encounters though, I believe only Sylacauga and Valera are documented to have actually occurred? Craig __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The German bitumen meteorite
- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:19:23 +0200 From: Daniel Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (meteorobs) The German bitumen meteorite The mistake made here is that there is *no connection* between the bolide and the 'meteowrong' found in the garden: The witness of the bolide somehow felt that it must have impacted very close to her - a common error reported in the literature for at least 100 years. In fact she was not even close to the actual trajectory ... See http://www.meteoros.de/news/news20.htm for some background (only in German, sorry). Daniel -- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:50:24 +0200 From: Daniel Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (meteorobs) The German bitumen meteorite At http://www.BerlinOnline.de/aktuelles/berliner_zeitung/wissenschaft/.html/133814.html (German again, sorry) you can find a quite detailled story about the Munich geologist who at first misidentified the Zolling meteor-wrong and how he eventually found out what it really was (a piece of a road). Dan The archive and Web site for our list is at http://www.meteorobs.org To stop getting all email from the 'meteorobs' lists, use our Webform: http://www.meteorobs.org/subscribe.html -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
