Re: [Fwd: [meteorite-list] RESEND: Website update Meteoritesale.]

2002-05-31 Thread Tom

Hello All

Same here, still black page in my IE.


Tom Perry






 G'Day, Mate,
 I think you've got a little problem. When I tried to open your site I
 only got a black page. Is it because I am using netscape commiunicator?
 Cheers,
 Norbert F. Kammel
 ROCKS ON FIRE
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: [meteorite-list] RESEND: Website update  Meteorite sale.
 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:03:47 +1000
 From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 After some computer maintainance my CPU clock somehow ended up a month
 behind so I'm resending this post for those of you reading straight from the
 meteorite list archives. Apologies to those who have already read it.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeff
 
 G'day List,
 
 I've just updated my site today and have added a whole heap of meteorites to
 my sale page. Mostly odds and ends that I have updated. Great for someone
 starting a collection or looking to find a small piece with visual aspects
 you may not have in any of your own colection pieces. It's turned into a bit
 of a Bargain Basement because I don't think there is anything over $20!
 Some really nice little pieces too! I've also changed the Monthly Favourite
 if you're interested in that one as well.
 
 Happy browsing and thanks again,
 
 Jeff Kuyken
 I.M.C.A. #3085
 www.meteoritesaustralia.com
 
 
 
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Re: [Fwd: [meteorite-list] RESEND: Website update Meteorite sale.]

2002-05-31 Thread Matteo Chinellato

Hello all

Is trange, probably is a netscape problem, I have
control now and I see the page. For who want I have
the sale list in word 2000 format.
Regards

Matteo

--- Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All
 
 Same here, still black page in my IE.
 
 
 Tom Perry
 
 
 
 
 
 
  G'Day, Mate,
  I think you've got a little problem. When I tried
 to open your site I
  only got a black page. Is it because I am using
 netscape commiunicator?
  Cheers,
  Norbert F. Kammel
  ROCKS ON FIRE
  
   Original Message 
  Subject: [meteorite-list] RESEND: Website update 
 Meteorite sale.
  Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:03:47 +1000
  From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Meteorite List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  After some computer maintainance my CPU clock
 somehow ended up a month
  behind so I'm resending this post for those of you
 reading straight from the
  meteorite list archives. Apologies to those who
 have already read it.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jeff
  
  G'day List,
  
  I've just updated my site today and have added a
 whole heap of meteorites to
  my sale page. Mostly odds and ends that I have
 updated. Great for someone
  starting a collection or looking to find a small
 piece with visual aspects
  you may not have in any of your own colection
 pieces. It's turned into a bit
  of a Bargain Basement because I don't think
 there is anything over $20!
  Some really nice little pieces too! I've also
 changed the Monthly Favourite
  if you're interested in that one as well.
  
  Happy browsing and thanks again,
  
  Jeff Kuyken
  I.M.C.A. #3085
  www.meteoritesaustralia.com
  
  
  
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[meteorite-list] Kaali meteorite - Estonia, 400BC?

2002-05-31 Thread STUARTATK
Hi all,

Doing some research for a radio slot, and am intrigued by the "Kaali" meteorite which fell in Estonia around 400BC; in the brief net searches I've done so far I've found intriguing references to the Sun being blocked out by the impact, localised environmental devastation and even "human casualties"... Couple of websites say that there's a large crater in Estonia, and several (as many as 8?) smaller craters nearby, but am just wondering if anyone out there has any more specific info about this impact? 

Thanks in advance for all info / help,

Stu


[meteorite-list] Kaali meteorite - Estonia, 400BC?

2002-05-31 Thread Bernd Pauli HD

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doing some research for a radio slot, and am intrigued by the Kaali
 meteorite which fell in Estonia around 400BC; in the brief net
 searches I've done so far I've found intriguing references to the Sun
 being blocked out by the impact, localised environmental devastation
 and even human casualties... Couple of websites say that there's a
 large crater in Estonia, and several (as many as 8?) smaller craters
 nearby, but am just wondering if anyone out there has any more
 specific info about this impact? Thanks in advance for all info /
 help, Stu

Hello Stu and List,

Here are two scientifically reliable references:

RASMUSSEN K.L. et al. (2000) The age of the Kaalijärv meteorite
craters (MAPS 35-5, 2000, pp. 1067-1071, excerpt):

400-370 B.C. at  ± 1o / The nine Kaalijärv craters on the Estonian
island of Saaremaa (Ösel) were caused by the impact of a fragmented IAB
iron meteorite, of which several masses have been recovered totalling
about 2.5 kg. The largest piece recovered so far weighs 38.4 gr (Raukas
et al., 1999).

VESKI S. et al. (2001) Ecological catastrophe in connection with the
impact of the Kaali Meteorite about 800-400 BC on the island of
Saaremaa, Estonia (MAPS 36-10, 2001 pp. 1367-1375, excerpt):

About 800-400 B.C. a meteoroid hit a then relatively densely populated
island, forming the Kaali meteorite impact craters. Unfortunately the
people living at that time on the island of Saaremaa were illiterate and
we have no direct written record of the impact event. Indirect written
historical records interpreted as describing the Kaali meteorite blast
event come from Tacitus (1942) and Pytheas from Massalia.


Best regards,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Kaali meteorite - Estonia, 400BC?

2002-05-31 Thread Bernd Pauli HD

STU wrote:

 Doing some research for a radio slot, and am intrigued by the Kaali
 meteorite which fell in Estonia around 400BC; in the brief net
 searches I've done so far I've found intriguing references to the Sun
 being blocked out by the impact, localised environmental devastation
 and even human casualties... Couple of websites say that there's a
 large crater in Estonia, and several (as many as 8?) smaller craters
 nearby, but am just wondering if anyone out there has any more
 specific info about this impact? Thanks in advance for all info /
 help, Stu

Clarification: 400-370 B.C. at  ± 1o /

This should be 400-370 B.C. at  ± 1 omikron - the Greek letter
omikron. This refers to an uncertainty factor but I don't know how
much 1 omikron is :-(

Bernd



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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites and Oxidation?

2002-05-31 Thread Bernd Pauli HD

Walter Branch wrote:

 In looking over many pictures of NWA meteorites and
 examining some which I have in my collection, many
 look heavily oxidized. Is this just my eyes or are
 they a heavily oxidzed group, in general? Of course,
 I have seen exceptions but even the carbonaceous stones
 appear this way to me.

Hello Walter and List,

Survey of weathering degree of
NWA's presently in my databases:

W0 or W0/1: 10
W1 or W1/2: 62
W2 or W2/3: 66
W3 or W3/4: 72
W4 or W4/5: 14
W5 or W5/6: 10
W6: 03

This survey does not yet include Met.Bull. 86 and
the countless provisional or unclassified NWA's.

Cheers,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] re Kaali

2002-05-31 Thread STUARTATK
Thanks to everyone who has sent me info on this topic, I've got exactly what I need now :-)

Another example of this List at its *best* :-))

Cheers,

Stu


[meteorite-list] CEM Review in ST

2002-05-31 Thread Bernd Pauli HD

Hello Listees, Listoids,

In the July 2002 issue of Sky and Telescope (p. 58), you'll find
a review of O.R. Norton's Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites.
I don't quite agree with J.K. Beatty's final conclusion: the neophyte
meteoriticist would have an easier time digesting Harry McSween's
'Meteorites and Their Parent Planets'  but that is a matter of taste.

Best wishes,
Good Night,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] CAYNON DIABLO FORSALE

2002-05-31 Thread SSTEVE ARNOLD
Hi list. who has any Canyon Diablo, inexpensive, forsale? I'm sure I'll get alot of feedback. I look forward to it. let me know, and have a great weekend all.S. R. Arnold, Chicago!!


[meteorite-list] Miracles

2002-05-31 Thread Rhett Bourland

A couple of my meteorites had started to get kind of rusty and I was afraid
that a couple others may share the same fate so I sent them off to Jim
Hartman a couple weeks ago and got them back today.  My Fredericksburgh was
almost totally covered with rust and is completely free now.  Apparently,
Jim also has a healing touch with stones too!  My 20g Juancheng individual
wasn't collected right away and so had begun to weather some plus living in
such a humid enviroment didn't help it either.  After getting it back from
Jim if it wasn't the same shape I would swear it was a different meteorite
that had just fallen this afternoon.  Thanks for saving my pieces Jim.  I'm
sure my Eagle Station and Losttown will be nice and safe for years to come
now.
Thanks again,
Rhett Bourland
www.asteroidmodels.com
www.asteroidmodels.com/personal
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[meteorite-list] lunar

2002-05-31 Thread David Calongne

hi list, this week i had lunar on the brain, i ordered and received from
labenne brothers a 0.056 gram dhofar 280 lunar anorthositic highland
breccia.as a produce clerk this seems to be the biggest boulder i can
afford.on the net i found out several things about the lunar area. the
apollo missions brought back many rocks of largely 2 types basalts and
breccias, but also a few special finds including white crystaline
anorthosite and impact melts. just a few samples of really upper mantle
rock.
 i viewed pictures of lunar meteorite slabs and noticed the highland
ones were black/gray and found out made of around 80% black anorthosite
type rock, why then is the highlands look white from the earth?the moon
surface must reflect alot of light? happy collecting david


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[meteorite-list] Weathering Grades

2002-05-31 Thread Robert Verish

meteorite-list] Weathering Degrees - Breakdown II 

Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fri, 31 May 2002 21:50:13 +0200 

Walter Branch wrote:

 Thanks for the breakdown. The weathering grades
appear not to take a normal distribution, rather there
appears to be a skew toward the lower grades. For
comparison, can you produce that same chart but
excluding the NWA meteorites in your database? 
- Walter

Survey of weathering grades of meteorites excluding
NWA:

W0 or W0/1: 054
W1 or W1/2: 241
W2 or W2/3: 520
W3 or W3/4: 448
W4 or W4/5: 178
W5 or W5/6: 013
W6: 002

Just like before, this survey does not yet include
Met.Bull. 86! But it does include all the other Hot
Desert meteorites like DaG's, HaH's etc.

Cheers,

Bernd
** End of Original Message ***

Hello Bernd and Walter,

I would assume the skew toward the lower grades that
Walter mentioned is the result of - 
the more a meteorite is weathered -
the more it looks like a terrestrial rock -
the the harder it would be to recognize it - 
the FEWER there will be found.

But, here is a better reason -
Since the weathering grade is based upon the interior
condition of a stony meteorite, the high percentage of
the total of meteorites that come from DRY (Hot 
Cold) Deserts will drive this skew toward the lower
grades.

Once again, the weathering grade is irregardless of
the condition of the exterior of a meteorite.  

Maybe this is a good opportunity to review how
weathering grade is determined (for the recent
collector or for those new to the List):

Weathering Grade (Wlotzka, 1993)

 W0-no visible oxidation of metal or sulfide but a
limonitic staining may be noticeable in transmitted
light. Fresh falls are usually of this grade, although
some are already W1. 
 W1-minor oxide rims around metal and troilite and
minor oxide veins. 
 W2-moderate oxidation of metal, about 20-60%
being affected. 
 W3-heavy oxidation of metal and troilite, 60-95%
being replaced. 
 W4-complete (95%) oxidation of metal and
troilite, but no alteration of silicates. 
 W5-beginning alteration of mafic silicates,
mainly along cracks. 
 W6-massive replacement of silicates by clay
minerals and oxides. 



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[meteorite-list] Renaissance Wax Polish

2002-05-31 Thread William Russell

Renaissance Wax is used by museums to protect
valuable metals.  It is also used by knife collectors
to keep the metal in knives from rusting.  Does
anyone have any experience using this wax on
iron meteorites?
   Bill Russell



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RE: [meteorite-list] CAYNON DIABLO FORSALE

2002-05-31 Thread Greg Redfern



Steve,

 Try Jim 
Strope at www.catchafallingstar.com.

Regards,
Greg RedfernIMCA #5781www.meteoritecollectors.org 


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  FORSALE
  Hi list. who has any Canyon Diablo, inexpensive, forsale? I'm sure I'll 
  get alot of feedback. I look forward to it. let me know, and have a great 
  weekend all.S. R. Arnold, Chicago!!


Re: [meteorite-list] Renaissance Wax Polish

2002-05-31 Thread Dfpens

Bill:

I don't have any experience with Renaissance wax, but I have used regular 
paraffin wax on my Nantan and Campo and it has significantly reduced the 
oxidation.

First melt the wax, then put the meteorite into it, completely submerged, for 
one half hour.  Remove it and lay it on a paper towel to dry and cool.  No 
need to remove any excessive wax - there shouldn't be any. 

I coated my Nantan about three months ago and it still looks great.  Same for 
my Campo.

Regards,

Dave Pensenstadler   

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[meteorite-list] moon glass

2002-05-31 Thread David Calongne

hi list and moon-atics, its 'understood' that 
dhofar 081/280 are paired, probley, well wash. univ. in st. louis web
site on dhofar 081/280 says 081 doesn't have sphere glass but 280's
matrix is glass rich, hummm
i think i found a sphere of white-milky glass 1/2mm in my 280, but  i'm
not trained to detect such things
read that titanium in moon glass is
green with 1% ti
yellow with 2 to 13% ti
red with 14% ti
does not cover my white sphere unless white is zero percent?  happy
collecting temp. lunatic david


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