[meteorite-list] Re: Question about nickel
Exist any iron meteorite without nickel? none --(so far!)--- and very unlikely. The two elements are so similar; atomic weight, metallic bond, and by physical size of their atoms that there is little way to physically separate them without a heavy planet's gravitational centrifuge. Chemically, here on Earth with free oxygen, iron reacts much more readily than nickel and can precipitated by that means. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA889
Adam, Thanx for response. Now that's two votes for 787, 869 and 900 pairings. As far as 904 goes...it does look similar, and it does have melt inclusions, like others. But the diogenite (which I have not seen or heard of in others, yet) and the crust that you said is just plain ugly, make them different in at least two ways. I know the crust is ugly because I have a nice end piece. With those two items in mind I'll agree that 904 is not paired with the others. But again it is only my opinion here agreeing with you. John Divelbiss - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA889 Dear List members, I have been asked the status of NWA 904 and how it compares to NWA 869, 900 ect.. This is what we have observed so far: A.) The black clasts are impact melt areas not carbonaceous. B.) It appears to be a regolith breccia. C.) Although the chondrules vary in crispness from type 3 to 6 most of them are type 5. D.) The crust is totally different than 869 and 900, is not as fresh and has a rather odd warty texture. F.) The green diogenite looking clasts are achondritic. G.) NWA 904 has different zones which show different degrees of weathering and petrologic type. H.) I have a sample of NWA 869 and have seen hundreds of kilos of it at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show and it is not paired with NWA 904. I.) NWA 869 looks as if it might be paired to NWA 787, a very nice looking L6. J.) NWA 869 has had three different classifications L4, L5 and L6. I guess it depends on the type samples that were provided to the laboratories. I do not blame the research labs because most dealers only deposit a 20 gram type sample. Sometimes this amount of material is not enough to cross the different petrologic boundaries and thus you can get many classifications for the same meteorite. Some dealers only send in a portion which they think will get the best classification, sharp chondrules, less weathering etc.. K.) Although NWA 900 has black clasts it does not display the zoning of NWA 904, has no green clasts and the weathering is consistent throughout the stone. L.) In my opinion NWA 787, 869 and 900 are paired. I have not seen NWA 995 so I cannot comment on its pairing status. If we had more time we would do a bulk analysis on each of these to once and for all settle the pairing question. Unfortunately the Microprobe we lease is booked until September. We are working on some very exciting material that we are hoping to announce by then. I remember a time when scientist used scramble at the opportunity to study even ordinary chondrites. Wishing everybody the best, Adam Hupe - Original Message - From: John Divelbiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; rochette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA889 Pierre and Rob, Thank you for responses about NWA 900 and 995. Melt, and not carbonacous for 900...that is cool too...since I really like melts. We all look forward to more information on these. (Matteo...do you still think you have seen achondrite clasts?...in another slice maybe? Question...has anyone suggested the same(achondrite clasts) for 869? That, I have not heard of. Greg and Adam...are you out there? What is the status on the collection in a slice, or NWA 904? Now I'm (pretty) sure there are achondrite clasts in the 904 slice I have...but if I've learned anything is that we should wait for the analysis. John PS Side note...my thin section of 869 from Jeff Rowell looks like I have an L3+ something clast in a L5 or L6 matrix. Probably the slice is a brecciated chunk of L6 clast with a chunk of L3+ matrix in the middle. See how we get turned around. (Al...I used criteria 7 and 8 from page 87 of the Norton Encyclopedia to come up with my own classification). This is kind of fun...but I'll stick to engineering. PSS Dean...by the way, you do have the best buy out there! - Original Message - From: rochette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA889 Dear list several pieces from Matteo that were analysed carefully (microprobe, and so on) revealed that the clasts are not exotic (i.e. carbonaceous or achondritic) but just L6: black is impact melt and gray is moderately shocked, the matrix being L3.8. It remains to be demonstrated that Matteo's pieces are really paired with Dean's. The pictures are not so similar Pierre __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
I think you will find that this will only be POSITIVE for Ebay users and Paypal users alike. Ebay will now be more user friendly to paypal users since Billpoint will be eliminated. Paypal was cleaning Billpoint's clock and Ebay is smart enough not to screw around with a good thing. That is why they bought it. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal This cant be a positive sign for anybody who regularly uses paypal to pay for stuff that they buy on the internet. You have to think that ebay will use it to promote their items only. I wonder if another company will step in to fill the void. http://www.msnbc.com/news/777414.asp?cp1=1 Cheers DEAN _ You dont have to go to NASA to get a Rock from outer space. Or even from the Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop. www.meteoriteshop.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
Good day Folks, I think that eBay would be foolish to somehow limit PayPal transactions to just eBay related sales. They would lose a bundle of money on the PayPal transactions that regularly occur off of eBay. Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 7/9/2002 8:55:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This cant be a positive sign for anybody who regularly uses paypal to pay for stuff that they buy on the internet. You have to think that ebay will use it to promote their items only. I wonder if another company will step in to fill the void. http://www.msnbc.com/news/777414.asp?cp1=1 Cheers DEAN
Re: [meteorite-list] birthday meteorites
Hey My birthday is 03.I.1977 Is any meteorite fall/find on my birthday ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]--[ IMCA#3667 ]- http://www.meteoryt.net Meteorite Information Center http://www.polandmet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.studiomc.com.pl[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vistapro.prv.pl +GSM (607) 535 195 - __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gibeon Shrapnel
I read today that the Silkote Alin fall had pieces of what were essentially shrapnel, from the iron that fell. On the weekend I bought a few pieces of Gibeon, from a guy who had been in Namibia (I'm in SA so it's close). These are bits straight out of the ground. One has a sharp blade of metal coming off it, like it has been ripped. Nothing like a nice neat stone. Is the idea of the meteorite exploding into pieces common? And will it react in the same way as a chunk of iron? Cheers Ryan Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of Northam Platinum Limited (Northam) is proprietary to the company. It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Northam does not own and endorse any other content. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of Northam. The person addressed in the e-mail is the sole authorised recipient. Please notify the sender immediately if it has unintentionally reached you and do not read, inclose or use the content in any way. Northam can not assure that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
It will be better than ever, ebay has said that it will basically leave paypal alone since it operates so well. Mike - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal This cant be a positive sign for anybody who regularly uses paypal to pay for stuff that they buy on the internet. You have to think that ebay will use it to promote their items only. I wonder if another company will step in to fill the void. http://www.msnbc.com/news/777414.asp?cp1=1 Cheers DEAN _ You dont have to go to NASA to get a Rock from outer space. Or even from the Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop. www.meteoriteshop.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
The flip side of Paypal: http://www.paypalwarning.com/ Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] birthday meteorites
Marcin heyed :-) My birthday is 03.I.1977. Is any meteorite fall/find on my birthday? Hello Marcin and List, If that is January 3, then we (or you) have: Lost City (H5), fell Jan 03, 1970 Warrenton (CO3.6), fell Jan 03, 1877 St. Mark (EH5), fell Jan 03, 1903 Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
I can find one of these pages for any company in existance, I have been using paypal since they opened and have NEVER had the slightest problem. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal The flip side of Paypal: http://www.paypalwarning.com/ Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] birthday meteorites
Hello List, Is there any Bali out there ? I have never seen this meteorite for sale , It is my birthday meteorite and the only one that I can find that fell in the month and day of my birth. (November , 22nd) Regards, Steven Drummond - Original Message - From: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] birthday meteorites Marcin heyed :-) My birthday is 03.I.1977. Is any meteorite fall/find on my birthday? Hello Marcin and List, If that is January 3, then we (or you) have: Lost City (H5), fell Jan 03, 1970 Warrenton (CO3.6), fell Jan 03, 1877 St. Mark (EH5), fell Jan 03, 1903 Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite impact poster_thanx_AD
Hi again Listees! Thanks to Walter and Grant for their kind words on the Meteorite Impact Posters they got from our special List offer a few days ago. Several of you have asked what this is about, having missed the original announcement due to travel, or a few days of e-mail foulups some had about then (19 June). So, once more, here it is for List Members Only... . From 19 June 2002...Hello listees! A new Special Offer to List Members Only, for our just-released full size poster called... Meteorite Impact Craters on the Earth..See it here: http://www.sciencemall-usa.com/impactposter.html Created with contributions by: Bevan French, Smithsonian Institution Carolyn Shoemaker, USGS, Flagstaff, AZ V.L. Buck Sharpton, U. of Alaska, Fairbanks R.R. Anderson, Iowa Geological Survey Bureau Christian Koeberl, U. of Austria, Vienna and our own List members Paul Dudley and Mike Farmer. Over a year in the making, this is just off the press, and List Members Only can get it by E-MAIL REPLY to this notice. Normally $16.00 as shown on the website, List Members can get one for $12.00. IF you promise to donate the second one to your best nearby science teacher for his/her classroom, you can get 2 posters for $20.00. Please reply off-list, and we'll get the info we need to ship pronto. Best to you all, Dave and Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI FOLKS, I ordered two posters also. I agree with Walter. They are great!! I'm trying to decide whether to donate the second one to my earth science club or to a local school - REGARDS, GRANT ELLIOTT Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, I just received my Meteorite Impact Craters posters (I ordered two) from Jensan Scientifics. I am very impressed with the quality of the poster. It is printed on heavy stock, the information it provides is great, and both were extremely well packaged and arrived safe and secure. I am very pleased. If you are wavering on whether or not to purchase one and you have the slightest interest in impact craters on Earth, this poster has my greatest recommendation. -Walter --- Walter Branch, Ph.D. Branch Meteorites 322 Stephenson Ave., Suite B Savannah, GA 31405 USA www.branchmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
Michael. Another dealer list-member did have a problem, and talked about it on this list a few years ago. I have a friend whose account has been frozen for several months. What can I say? I don't know if I could or could not find a page on any or every company. Is it a problem worth mentioning? Well, it's a flip side. Billpoint never insisted on a checking account number, for which reason, as a buyer I preferred Billpoint. I've used Paypal, up to my initial spending limit, but not to the point of a checking account. Charlie ---BeginMessage--- I can find one of these pages for any company in existance, I have been using paypal since they opened and have NEVER had the slightest problem. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal The flip side of Paypal: http://www.paypalwarning.com/ Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about nickel [nickel-poor iron meteorites]
Hello Rodrigo and list, Vagn Buchwald's Handbook of Iron Meteorites (1976) has a rather detailed discussion of nickel content on pages 76-77 with several histograms showing the frequency distribution of percentage nickel content. He states, In iron meteorites, nickel varies from a minimum of 5.1-5.3% (Tombigbee River, Auburn, Holland's Store) to a maximum of 35% (Santa Catharina). If Oktibbeha County, page 947, is confirmed as an independent meteorite, the nickel maximum increases to about 60%. In Buchwald's histograms, the most nickel-poor iron group, the IIA hexahedrites, show a bell-shaped distribution which drops off very sharply below 5.3%. Of course, Buchwald's data set is now 26 years old and meteoritic science has not stood still in the years since his masterpiece was published. Still, the only irons which I am aware of with nickel content below the 5.1% lower bound which Buchwald claims are the so-called Bellsbank trio, which includes Bellsbank, La Primitiva, and Tombigbee River. These are classified as chemically and structurally anomalous (UNGR) but appear to be related to the IIAB irons. A nickel content of 4.3% was determined for Tombigbee River in 1973, a fact which Buchwald was apparently unaware of at the time his Handbook was published. A paper published in 1984 by Malvin, Zong, and Wasson presents a hypothesis for a process which may have allowed the Bellsbank trio to form under very exceptional circumstances in isolated pockets of phosphorus-rich melt in the IIAB core, with their anomalous composition as a result. This paper is available online at http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abstract_service.html (search for Bellsbank). All things considered, it seems much more likely that an iron specimen with nickel content below around 4% is manmade rather than a representative of an as yet undiscovered group of iron meteorites. Buchwald points out that nickel is extremely siderophile (iron loving), even more so than iron itself. Processes of fractionation in the metal phase allow for a rather wide range of iron/nickel ratios, but the laws of physical chemistry seem to draw the line at around 4% as a lower bound. Best wishes to all, Piper Standard disclaimer: I am not now and have never been a professional meteoriticist or geochemist, and any personal opinions not supported by references to authorities more qualified than myself should be taken with the usual grain of salt. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
Hi, In their press announcement, eBay has made it clear that PayPal will continue to operate as an independent (and successful) entity. eBay says it will drop its own (unsuccessful) BillPoint service. Afterall, they bought PayPal because it has won the overall competition for on-line payment services, sucking up a huge market share. If you can't beat'em, buy'em out. Sterling K. Webb dean bessey wrote: This cant be a positive sign for anybody who regularly uses paypal to pay for stuff that they buy on the internet. You have to think that ebay will use it to promote their items only. I wonder if another company will step in to fill the void. http://www.msnbc.com/news/777414.asp?cp1=1 Cheers DEAN _ You dont have to go to NASA to get a Rock from outer space. Or even from the Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop. www.meteoriteshop.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Achondrite clasts
Hello all, After reading Adam Hupe's interesting description of NWA904, the collection-in-a-slice meteorite (actually a regolith breccia), I was wondering how common achondrite clasts were in chondrite breccias. Can someone (Bernd) give us a few references on these exotic clasts that have already been described? Thanks, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about nickel [nickel-poor ironmeteorites]
Hola Piper and list Piper, Thank you for the information about nickel, this is very complete and well reference. I tell you news about the Bellsbank group ( Bellsbank, La Primitiva, Tombigbee River and Twannberg ) now these formed a new iron group IIG due to a new discovery in the Atacama Desert. This new meteorite called Guanaco is the fifth member of this group and was analyzed by John Wasson (UCLA). This information is in www.meteorites.cl/science.html Thank you. Best Regards Rodrigo Martinez Atacama Desert Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.meteorites.cl - Original Message - From: Piper R.W. Hollier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rodrigo Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about nickel [nickel-poor iron meteorites] Hello Rodrigo and list, Vagn Buchwald's Handbook of Iron Meteorites (1976) has a rather detailed discussion of nickel content on pages 76-77 with several histograms showing the frequency distribution of percentage nickel content. He states, In iron meteorites, nickel varies from a minimum of 5.1-5.3% (Tombigbee River, Auburn, Holland's Store) to a maximum of 35% (Santa Catharina). If Oktibbeha County, page 947, is confirmed as an independent meteorite, the nickel maximum increases to about 60%. In Buchwald's histograms, the most nickel-poor iron group, the IIA hexahedrites, show a bell-shaped distribution which drops off very sharply below 5.3%. Of course, Buchwald's data set is now 26 years old and meteoritic science has not stood still in the years since his masterpiece was published. Still, the only irons which I am aware of with nickel content below the 5.1% lower bound which Buchwald claims are the so-called Bellsbank trio, which includes Bellsbank, La Primitiva, and Tombigbee River. These are classified as chemically and structurally anomalous (UNGR) but appear to be related to the IIAB irons. A nickel content of 4.3% was determined for Tombigbee River in 1973, a fact which Buchwald was apparently unaware of at the time his Handbook was published. A paper published in 1984 by Malvin, Zong, and Wasson presents a hypothesis for a process which may have allowed the Bellsbank trio to form under very exceptional circumstances in isolated pockets of phosphorus-rich melt in the IIAB core, with their anomalous composition as a result. This paper is available online at http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abstract_service.html (search for Bellsbank). All things considered, it seems much more likely that an iron specimen with nickel content below around 4% is manmade rather than a representative of an as yet undiscovered group of iron meteorites. Buchwald points out that nickel is extremely siderophile (iron loving), even more so than iron itself. Processes of fractionation in the metal phase allow for a rather wide range of iron/nickel ratios, but the laws of physical chemistry seem to draw the line at around 4% as a lower bound. Best wishes to all, Piper Standard disclaimer: I am not now and have never been a professional meteoriticist or geochemist, and any personal opinions not supported by references to authorities more qualified than myself should be taken with the usual grain of salt. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Question about Nickel
- Original Message - From: Rodrigo Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Central [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Question about Nickel Thank you Elton, David and Rhett, for yours quick and complete information. Best Regards Rodrigo Martinez Atacama Desert Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.meteorites.cl __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay stuff.
Hi everyone, I have over 50 items ending tomorrow, many at one cent still, no reserve as usual. I have a set of 18 meteorites, all very nice hard to get finds, at $76 right now, retail is $500-600 so grab it now, or wish you had! Mike Farmer http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
We have used PayPal for over 2 years and accept over $50k annually. We have disputed charges, had problems with double billing by FedEx on our PayPal debit card and one idiot that tried to charge back on an item that he paid for because he thought he could get away with it. PAYPAL was very responsive to us, never let us feel like we were not being deat with properly and has never frozen any funds. THE KEY to using PayPal is to follow their rules for accepting payments. Require a confirmed address for items over $250.00, send that item by a trackable shipment such as FedEx and require a signature at the time of delivery. If you follow the rules in the seller protection plan you will not have a problem with PayPal. The 2 class action lawsuits are being brought by bidders not sellers to the best of my knowledge. We have tried bidpay and C2It for payments and they have never been any where near as good as PayPal. Ebay can only improve the service in my opinion. Mark M. - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal The flip side of Paypal: http://www.paypalwarning.com/ Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal
PayPal does ask for a checking account to VERIFY AND CONFIRM who you are. They make a couple of less than a dollar deposits to your account. Once they appear in your account you login to their verification page and confirm the amounts they deposited. That allows them to confirm you are who you say you are. Once completed you are now covered under their protection programs and it allows sellers additional protection for accepting payments from verified users with confirmed addresses. It also allow users to send e-checks from their checking accounts, for those that insist on using a check. In our business we do not accept personal or business checks for any reason from bidders. The bank we have our business account with charges us for making more than 7 deposits a month. Having to deposit personal checks in a separate deposit to watch them clear got to be expensive, with an Echeck via PayPal it shows up in our account and then sits until it clears. If it does not clear, we are not charged, I do not have to deposit it and watch it, as with a normal bank and paypal notifies us by email when it clears. People are so paranoid about giving out a checking account but think nothing of using a debit card and punching in their PIN # on a pad at Walmart. Well take it from someone that used to install and service those card readers...they go out to the bank on an UNSECURE Phoneline and the data sent is NOT ENCRYPTED. Anyone with the proper modem and access to that phone line can capture that data streaming to the bank without interupting the transmission. Everything seems normal. With equipment you can buy just about anywhere they can use expired credit cards, and with one pass re-write the mag strip on the old card with your bank info. We recently had a deposit stolen from our banks ATM. It was the ATM on the outside of the bank. Think for a moment that a bank employee comes out nightly before they close to service the ATM and you are woefully wrong. Most ATMs even the ones attached to the banks are LEASED. Another company services the ATM, adds cash and removes the deposits. Just because you have a receipt from the ATM means squat. Luckily they stole a bunch of deposit envelopes and were actually caught by the police. 35 people had their money stolen, ours was returned luckily. We have not had a single incident with money being stolen from PayPal or by PayPal. Follow their rules and they will not have a reason to freeze your PayPal account. They can not access your checking account anymore than I can, they simply use it to verify you are who you say you are. Mark M. - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay to buy Paypal Michael. Another dealer list-member did have a problem, and talked about it on this list a few years ago. I have a friend whose account has been frozen for several months. What can I say? I don't know if I could or could not find a page on any or every company. Is it a problem worth mentioning? Well, it's a flip side. Billpoint never insisted on a checking account number, for which reason, as a buyer I preferred Billpoint. I've used Paypal, up to my initial spending limit, but not to the point of a checking account. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about nickel [nickel-poor ironmeteorites]
Great Info. I am curious as to the degree to which this group displays Widmanstätten patterns as the nickel in the lattice is what makes the difference in the rate of etching. I don't recall the %ages in Ataxites but at some upward content of nickel the pattern disappears. Elton Rodrigo Martinez wrote: Hola Piper and list Piper, Thank you for the information about nickel, this is very complete and well reference. I tell you news about the Bellsbank group ( Bellsbank, La Primitiva, Tombigbee River and Twannberg ) now these formed a new iron group IIG due to a new discovery in the Atacama Desert. This new meteorite called Guanaco is the fifth member of this group and was analyzed by John Wasson (UCLA). This information is in www.meteorites.cl/science.html Thank you. Best Regards Rodrigo Martinez Atacama Desert Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.meteorites.cl __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
