Re: [meteorite-list] Collector's Morals Let FBI To Moon Rocks Sale

2002-07-26 Thread Walter Branch

Hello Everyone,

I emailed Mr. Emmermann yesterday, thanking him for his assistance in
capturing the thieves.  This was, in part, his reply to me:

>I do not feel that I deserve so much credit...
>I just chose NOT to turn away while I saw a crime in
>progress. That's in fact a logical thing to do because, if
>you think about it, wouldn't the world be a better
>place if that were common practice?

Nice guy, eh?

-Walter

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- Original Message -
From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Collector's Morals Let FBI To Moon Rocks Sale


>
>
> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/space/1507785
>
> Collector's morals led FBI to moon rocks sale
> By MARK CARREAU and ROMA KHANNA
> Houston Chronicle
> July 25, 2002
>
> As it turned out, Belgian rock collector Axel Emmermann
> had a conscience.
>
> The 50-year-old chemist with a passion for
> phosphorescent minerals was a poor prospect for a
> bizarre offer to buy moon rocks and meteorites stolen
> from NASA's Johnson Space Center.
>
> When Emmermann and others in the Mineralogy Club of
> Antwerp, Belgium, received an e-mail inquiry in
> May titled "Priceless Moon Rocks Now Available," he
> reported the strange overture to the Tampa, Fla.,
> office of the FBI.
>
> Last weekend, his tip led to the FBI's recovery of 10
> ounces of moon rocks and meteorites stolen from JSC
> earlier this month as well as the arrest of a NASA co-op
> student, a summer intern and a third suspect. A
> second NASA summer intern was arrested in Houston
> on Monday and charged in the heist as well.
>
> "I know Neil Armstrong, his successors and a lot of
> brave men risked their lives getting those stones, and
> they belong to the American public, the American
> government and NASA," Emmermann said Wednesday
> in a telephone interview from his home in Mortsel, south
> of Antwerp.
>
> "I couldn't bring myself to buy anything. It's
> wrong, and no one should make money out of those
> rocks. I find it appalling and immoral."
>
> Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were the first to
> walk on the moon 33 years ago this week, as
> the commander and pilot of Apollo 11. Five more
> Apollo missions reached the lunar surface with 10
> more astronauts before the program ended in
> December 1972.
>
> All told, they returned to Earth 842 pounds of lunar
> rock and soil, which was stored at Johnson.
>
> According to federal authorities, Thad Ryan
> Roberts, 25, the NASA co-op, along with interns
> Tiffany Brooke Fowler, 22, and Shae Lynn Saur,
> 19, broke into a NASA lab on July 13 and
> removed a 600-pound safe containing 5 ounces of
> moon rock and 5 ounces of meteoritic material.
>
> While investigators placed the scientific value of the
> recovered moon rock and dust at $1 million, the value of
> the rare material to collectors is estimated at more than
> $565 million.
>
> According to the FBI, Roberts and Fowler late last week
> drove the stolen materials to Orlando, Fla., where they
> expected to sell at least some of the rare cache to people
> they thought were Emmermann's brother and
> sister-in-law. Roberts and Fowler were met in Florida
> before the transaction by Gordon Sean McWhorter, 26, of
> Utah, an unemployed friend of Roberts', authorities said.
>
> The strange caper began on May 9, when the Mineralogy
> Club of Antwerp, which maintains a prominent Web site
> for rock collectors, received the unsolicited moon rock
> e-mail from "Orb Robinson" that stated in part, "If you
> have an interest in purchasing a rare and historically
> significant piece of the moon, and would like more
> information, then please contact me."
>
> Emmermann received a similar e-mail that stated in part,
> "Greetings, My name is Orb Robinson from Tampa, Fl. I
> have in my possession a rare multi-karat moon rock I am
> trying to find a buyer for ... "
>
> As the investigation unfolded, authorities identified "Orb
> Robinson" as Roberts and the source of his e-mails as
> computers at the Johnson Space Center, the Houston
> Public Library and the University of Utah. Roberts
> attended the Utah school, where he was majoring in
> physics, geology and geophysics.
>
> While Emmermann's fellow club members dismissed
> thee-mail pitch, he could not.
>
> "Robinson, I thought, was probably quite an educated
> man," Emmermann recalled. "So, I took him seriously,
> and I said let's look into this."
>
> The Belgian responded and after a further exchange
> decided "Orb Robinson" would not be so brazen if he
> were attempting to peddle materials that were
> counterfeit.
>
> On May 24, Emmermann used e-mail to alert the FBI
> office in Tampa, which coincidentally is the site of a
> federal task force that specializes in the investigation of
> Internet crime.
>
> O

[meteorite-list] Caveat Impactor

2002-07-26 Thread Ron Baalke


http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/26jul_nt7.htm

Caveat Impactor
NASA Science News

An asteroid with almost no chance of hitting Earth made big headlines this
week.

July 26, 2002: I slid a dollar bill across the counter, and the cashier
handed back a lottery ticket. The odds for winning: 1-in-250,000. A long
shot, but you never know.

Walking out of the store, ticket in hand, I glance at a newspaper. "Tony
Phillips wins the lottery!" the headline declared. Gosh, I thought, that
seems premature ... not to mention weird.

Indeed, it's fiction. For one thing, I never buy lottery tickets. But
mainly, no one would write such a headline based on such slender odds.

Yet that's what happened this week, in real life, to an asteroid.

On July 9, 2002, MIT astronomers discovered 2002 NT7, a 2 km-wide space rock
in a curious orbit. Unlike most asteroids, which circle the Sun in the plane
of the planets, 2002 NT7 follows a path that is tilted 42 degrees. It spends
most of its time far above or below the rest of the solar system. Every 2.29
years, however, the asteroid plunges through the inner solar system not far
from Earth's orbit.

After a week of follow-up observations, researchers did some calculations.
There was a chance, they concluded, that 2002 NT7 might hit our planet on
February 1, 2019. The odds of impact: 1-in-250,000.

"Space Rock 'on Collision Course'," a headline declared days later.
"Asteroid Could Wipe Out a Continent in 2019," another one warned. Really.

"In fact," says Don Yeomans, the manager of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program
at JPL, "the threat is minimal. One-in-250,000 is a very small number."

The odds are not only low, but also uncertain. Yeomans explains: "We've been
tracking 2002 NT7 for a very short time--only 17 days so far," Meanwhile,
the asteroid takes 2.29 years to orbit the Sun. Predictions based on such a
small fraction of an orbit are seldom trustworthy.

It's becoming a familiar routine: Astronomers discover a near-Earth
asteroid. With only meager data at hand, they can't rule out a collision in
the distant future. Headlines trumpet the danger. Finally, the alarm
subsides when more data lead to a better orbit--one that rules out an
impact.

"As far as the public is concerned," says Jon Giorgini of JPL's Solar System
Dynamics Group, "it just isn't worth getting worked up about an object with
a couple weeks of data showing a possible Earth encounter many years from
now. Additional measurements will shrink the uncertainty by a large
amount--and Earth will (almost certainly) fall out of the risk zone."

Already this is happening for 2002 NT7. The calculated probability of a
collision with Earth is shrinking as astronomers add new data each day. "I
suspect it will take only a few more weeks (or maybe months) to completely
rule out an impact in 2019," says Yeomans.

Giorgini explains further: "When we calculate an asteroid's position (based
on measurements made at a telescope), the result isn't a single point in
space. Instead, it's a volume of space where the asteroid could be with some
probability. We deal with probabilities, not absolute answers, because the
measurements contain errors." For example, optical data can be corrupted by
twinkling and refraction in Earth's atmosphere. (Radar is better, notes
Giorgini, but no radar data have yet been obtained for 2002 NT7.)

"When you project this initial probability region years into the future, it
naturally expands. For a newly discovered object with only a few days
tracking, the uncertainty region can easily grow to cover a big part of the
inner solar system. Because Earth is in the inner solar system, and can
potentially cut through this volume of smeared out probability, we end up
with finite impact probabilities."

"A finite probability, however, is not really a prediction of
impact," he cautions, "but a statement that one is possible." Of
course, many things are possible. Like the newspaper headline "Tony Phillips
wins the Lottery!" But most of them do not happen.

JPL lists asteroids like 2002 NT7 on their Internet "risk page" not to raise
an alarm, says Yeomans, but to alert astronomers when new discoveries merit
attention. "It's important that we continue tracking these asteroids to
refine their orbits," he says. The more observers, the better.

What's an ordinary person to do?

The next time you see a headline "Killer asteroid threatens Earth!" ask
yourself two questions: Have we known about this space rock for more than a
week or so? (If not, check again in a month. It probably won't be considered
a killer then.) And what are the odds of impact?

If you're more likely to win the lottery, there's probably nothing to worry
about.

Editor's note: Big asteroids have hit Earth before and it's only a matter of
time before one threatens us again. Will it be years, decades, millions of
years? No one knows. The point of this article is not that we are safe from
asteroid strikes. We are not safe. Rather, we hope to give reader

[meteorite-list] cumberland falls & morasko

2002-07-26 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!

I'll be quick! 

1.  1.774 grams Cumberland Falls  (picture)$325.00

2.  Morasko whole individual   $250.00

Please let me know!

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[meteorite-list] Please unsubscribe me from the list

2002-07-26 Thread guy seligman

Thanks in advacne for unsubscribing me.

Guy Seligman

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[meteorite-list] (no subject)

2002-07-26 Thread Rosemary Hackney



why do I get double messages from the 
list??
 
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[meteorite-list] Collector's Morals Let FBI To Moon Rocks Sale

2002-07-26 Thread Ron Baalke



http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/space/1507785

Collector's morals led FBI to moon rocks sale
By MARK CARREAU and ROMA KHANNA
Houston Chronicle
July 25, 2002

As it turned out, Belgian rock collector Axel Emmermann
had a conscience. 

The 50-year-old chemist with a passion for
phosphorescent minerals was a poor prospect for a
bizarre offer to buy moon rocks and meteorites stolen
from NASA's Johnson Space Center. 

When Emmermann and others in the Mineralogy Club of 
Antwerp, Belgium, received an e-mail inquiry in
May titled "Priceless Moon Rocks Now Available," he
reported the strange overture to the Tampa, Fla.,
office of the FBI. 

Last weekend, his tip led to the FBI's recovery of 10
ounces of moon rocks and meteorites stolen from JSC
earlier this month as well as the arrest of a NASA co-op
student, a summer intern and a third suspect. A
second NASA summer intern was arrested in Houston
on Monday and charged in the heist as well. 

"I know Neil Armstrong, his successors and a lot of
brave men risked their lives getting those stones, and
they belong to the American public, the American
government and NASA," Emmermann said Wednesday
in a telephone interview from his home in Mortsel, south
of Antwerp. 

"I couldn't bring myself to buy anything. It's
wrong, and no one should make money out of those
rocks. I find it appalling and immoral." 

Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were the first to
walk on the moon 33 years ago this week, as
the commander and pilot of Apollo 11. Five more
Apollo missions reached the lunar surface with 10
more astronauts before the program ended in
December 1972. 

All told, they returned to Earth 842 pounds of lunar
rock and soil, which was stored at Johnson. 

According to federal authorities, Thad Ryan
Roberts, 25, the NASA co-op, along with interns
Tiffany Brooke Fowler, 22, and Shae Lynn Saur,
19, broke into a NASA lab on July 13 and
removed a 600-pound safe containing 5 ounces of 
moon rock and 5 ounces of meteoritic material. 

While investigators placed the scientific value of the
recovered moon rock and dust at $1 million, the value of
the rare material to collectors is estimated at more than
$565 million. 

According to the FBI, Roberts and Fowler late last week
drove the stolen materials to Orlando, Fla., where they
expected to sell at least some of the rare cache to people
they thought were Emmermann's brother and
sister-in-law. Roberts and Fowler were met in Florida
before the transaction by Gordon Sean McWhorter, 26, of
Utah, an unemployed friend of Roberts', authorities said. 

The strange caper began on May 9, when the Mineralogy
Club of Antwerp, which maintains a prominent Web site
for rock collectors, received the unsolicited moon rock
e-mail from "Orb Robinson" that stated in part, "If you
have an interest in purchasing a rare and historically
significant piece of the moon, and would like more
information, then please contact me." 

Emmermann received a similar e-mail that stated in part,
"Greetings, My name is Orb Robinson from Tampa, Fl. I
have in my possession a rare multi-karat moon rock I am
trying to find a buyer for ... " 

As the investigation unfolded, authorities identified "Orb
Robinson" as Roberts and the source of his e-mails as
computers at the Johnson Space Center, the Houston
Public Library and the University of Utah. Roberts
attended the Utah school, where he was majoring in
physics, geology and geophysics. 

While Emmermann's fellow club members dismissed
thee-mail pitch, he could not. 

"Robinson, I thought, was probably quite an educated
man," Emmermann recalled. "So, I took him seriously,
and I said let's look into this." 

The Belgian responded and after a further exchange
decided "Orb Robinson" would not be so brazen if he
were attempting to peddle materials that were
counterfeit. 

On May 24, Emmermann used e-mail to alert the FBI
office in Tampa, which coincidentally is the site of a
federal task force that specializes in the investigation of
Internet crime. 

Over the summer, the FBI coached Emmermann in a
series of e-mail negotiations with the mysterious moon
rock merchant. Eventually, the Belgian persuaded "Orb
Robinson" to meet with his brother and sister-in-law in
Orlando, fictitious participants in the scheme who were
really undercover investigators. 

Just a few days before the encounter, FBI agents
messaged Emmermann that they were preparing arrest
warrants. On Tuesday, authorities formally
acknowledged that he had played a pivotal role in the
case. 

The Belgian said the case made him recall that in 1978,
the U.S. ambassador to his country made the rare loan of
some heavily guarded moon rocks to the Antwerp club for
an exhibit. 

"We have paid our debt to NASA in full by stopping this
conspiracy," Emmermann said Wednesday. 

Meanwhile, Roberts and McWhorter appeared in a
Tampa federal court hearing on Wednesday to seek
release on bail. 

During the appearance, McWhorter "shot his mouth off,"
said his court-appointed attorney. Dan

[meteorite-list] cumberland falls & morasko

2002-07-26 Thread Jamie Ekholm



I thought about 2 weeks ago you were looking for 
cumberland falls?
 
Jamie


[meteorite-list] THANKS/Jake

2002-07-26 Thread Meteoriteman

   Hi all; We have just returned from vacationI am disturbed by alot of 
what I read in  my mailbox...wow.
   anyway: "My gram's worth" is, and has been from the beginning of the IMCA 
that:
IMCA=AUTHENTICTY ( and related issues to authenticity only...)
Thats it. Nothing else concerns the IMCA...not racism views of members, 
not political views of members , not religious views of members...not fights 
among members...not sexual preferences of members etc etc etc...simply the 
AUTHENTICITY of meteorite material by a reputable group.
   It is my hope that the IMCA can remain focused on it's founding objective.
 Hope  all are well!
 Jake

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[meteorite-list] Please ignore any old posts - Thank you!

2002-07-26 Thread Paul Harris

Dear List,

I posted this message to the list on the 23rd but for some un-known reason 
my posts have not made it out
of the electron vault until Art re-subscribed me today.  Therefore if you 
see any strange or outdated posts
from me to the list please ignore...

Thank you,

Paul

+++

Dear List,

If anyone from Utah would like to make an impact on tv here you go!

Thanks,

Paul

Greetings.
I'm a tv feature reporter who's looking for stories...here in Utah. I was
wondering if you might know any meteorite hunters here in my state...who
might be willing to talk to me about meteorites.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
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[meteorite-list] meteorite hunting

2002-07-26 Thread David Oliver


I currently reside in central texas and saw a discovery special on 
"hunting".  Let me know of any good resources I need to learn more on the 
issue, and whether west Texas is a good area to search.

Thanks,
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[meteorite-list] Steinbach

2002-07-26 Thread MeteorHntr
Hello list,

What a great day it is.  I hope you all are enjoying it as well.

I have some small pieces of the historic Steinbach, Germany; an unusual Silicated Iron found in 1724 for sale today.

If interested in photos and prices, please contact me off list.

Thanks,
Steve Arnold
www.meteoritebroker.com


[meteorite-list] mass extinction

2002-07-26 Thread James knudson


Hello List,
  I have been getting e-mails from the list on two different subjects; 26 
million year mass extinctions and the sun actually being made of iron.  I 
wonder if these two subjects are related.  We all know that the sun has 
cycles. I am curious if the sun has a cycle every 26 million years that 
could be hurtling catastrophic sized hunks of iron on a collision course 
with earth?  Could solar flares be the source of our iron meteorites?  Could 
anyone in the list tell me if they think there is any logic to this theory 
of mine? I would appreciate any feedback.   Tom


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Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2002-07-26 Thread Matteo Chinellato

ARG!! You are a SPAMMMER! ;-)

Matteo

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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - July 22-26, 2002

2002-07-26 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
July 22-26, 2002

o Frosted Sand Dunes (Released 22 July 2002)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020722a.html

o Nepenthes Mensae (Released 23 July 2002)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020723a.html

o The So-Called 'Face on Mars' in Infrared (Released 24 July 2002)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020724A.html

o Acidalia Planitia (Released 25 July 2002)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020725a.html

o Pandora Fretum Crater (Released 26 July 2002) 
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020726a.html

All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
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[meteorite-list] putting an end to it!!

2002-07-26 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!

Good evening list. I hope you all are well and am looking to a great
weekend. I just want to let you all know that I want to put this whole"
racist" thing behind me and this great group of collecters. When I emailed
Matteo about the whole spamming thing, I took offence to it, but not on a
racist attitude. I said, thanks alot pisano! That and that alone was meant
as a friend, not a racial slur at all. I can hardly wait to meet Matteo.I
have since apoligized to Matteo in private. And he as well has let me know
about his feelings. All water under the bridge!And to Mr. Bourland, I'm
sorry we had to have this whole mess blow up like this! But I hope
somewhere down the pike we can meet and be friends, and just look back and
say, wow what a firestorm that caused. Because as humans, we have to move
on and get on with life. I am sorry you stepped down of the IMCA, but you
did what you thought was best for you. I hope you can stay in some
capacity and continue to to devote your time and energy to this great
group.I had to finally put my 2 cents in to finally put this whole mess
behind me. I love people, but I know in my heart I am no racist! I,m going
to a Milwaukee brewer game tomorrow, and I looking forward to a great
weekend. I hope you all out there have a great weekend out there, where
ever you are.

p.s. I LOVE METEORITE COLLECTING

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[meteorite-list] Strange theories and proof (and micromounts!)

2002-07-26 Thread Tracy Latimer

Before I make any decisions regarding some of the more exotic theories
that have cropped up recently on this board (the Nemesis star, the sun
being a giant ball of glowing iron, etc.) would someone (or 
someones) please direct me to some reputable sources of information on
these subjects?  Moon landing hoax websites et. al. need not apply; I have
no trouble finding conspiracy theorists.  I know the Nemesis theory has
been around a while, I believe even Isaac Asimov talked about it, but I am
not up to speed on the newest information.  And I haven't seen anything
but the one secondhand press release on the iron sun theory.

And finally, just to make this post marginally about meteorites, is there
a consensus on what constitutes a micromount?  Mass?  Lower limit?  Upper
limit?  Crumbs in a gelcap?  One pinhead fleck in a jewel box (my
Chassignite)?  I would love to have a saucer sized slab o' Esquel (who
wouldn't?) but money and storage constrain me, and while I have a few
bigger pieces, I am a micromount collector and proud of it.

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[meteorite-list] Four Charged In Theft Of Apollo Moon Rocks and ALH84001 Meteorite From JSC

2002-07-26 Thread Ron Baalke



http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/front/1504496

Four charged in theft of moon rocks

Material from Houston worth $1 million

By MARK CARREAU
Houston Chronicle
July 23, 2002

FBI agents put their deductive skills to work in nabbing four people
suspected of stealing a safe from NASA's Johnson Space Center that contained
tiny pieces of lunar soil and a famous Martian meteorite valued at more than
$1 million.

"We put two and two together," Houston FBI spokesman Bob
Doguim said Monday. "We had missing rocks in Houston, and
some people trying to sell them online."

Two men and a woman were arrested in Orlando, Fla., over
the weekend as America quietly marked the 33rd anniversary
of the first Apollo moon landing. Another woman was
arrested in Houston on Monday.

Three of the four suspects in the bizarre case were working
at Johnson this summer as college interns or co-ops as they
pursued careers in space science and engineering.

A tip to authorities from a Belgian rock hound in late May
led authorities to the suspects. The FBI monitored and
coached the Belgian in his electronic communications with
the suspects and eventually enticed them to bring the
stolen materials to Florida.

None of the four charged in the case was alive on July 20,
1969, when Apollo 11 astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin piloted their
spindly spacecraft to a breathtaking landing in a lunar boulder field.

Those arrested by the FBI on Saturday night in the parking lot of an Italian
restaurant near the Orlando airport were:

o Thad Ryan Roberts, 25, a co-op student from the University of Utah, who
was employed by Johnson's Mission Operations Directorate at the water tank
where astronauts train for spacewalks.

o Gordon Sean McWorter, 26, identified as a friend of Roberts' from the
University of Utah. He was not employed by NASA.

o Tiffany Brooke Fowler, 22, an intern and recent biology graduate of Texas
Lutheran University in Odessa, who was employed by Johnson's Space and Life
Sciences Directorate.

The fourth person, arrested on Monday in Houston, was
Shae Lynn Saur, 19, a student from Lamar University in
Beaumont. She was employed by Johnson's Structural
Engineering and Thermal Design division.

Saur was released on $25,000 bond in Houston, and Fowler
was freed on bail in Florida. McWorter and Roberts were
being held at the Orange County (Fla.) Jail.

Roberts, who authorities said was a ringleader in the
caper, as well as Fowler and Saur were dismissed by NASA
on Monday, likely ending any chance of future space
program careers.

Roberts, McWorter and Fowler were apprehended in Florida
after driving there from Houston. They were lured to
Orlando by undercover agents who had arranged to buy
samples of the lunar and meteorite samples.

Saur did not participate in the 900-mile drive because
she planned to complete a scuba diving certification,
authorities said.

All four were charged with conspiracy to commit theft
and transport in interstate commerce of government
property, including 53 samples of rock weighing 5 ounces
and 165 fragments of meteorite, also weighing 5 ounces.

The meteoritic material included a fragment of ALH
84001, a rare Martian meteorite. In 1996, NASA
scientists made the still-disputed claim that ALH 84001
might contain fossilized evidence of ancient microbial
life.

According to the FBI, Roberts, Fowler and Saur stole a
600-pound NASA safe containing the materials from a
laboratory in a curatorial facility at Johnson. The moon
rocks and soil collected by the Apollo astronauts as
well as meteorites collected from remote sites of the
world are stored in the facility for scientific study.

All told, six Apollo missions launched between July 1969
and December 1972 landed on the moon. A dozen astronauts
returned to Earth with 842 pounds of soil and rock.

The safe containing the materials was stolen from the
NASA lab on July 15, though the theft was not noticed
for two days.

The theft was reported to NASA's security forces, the
agency's inspector general and the FBI on July 17, said
NASA spokeswoman Eileen Hawley.

Sara Oates, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Tampa, and Hawley said they could
not comment on how the two men and the woman managed to remove the safe from
the lab.

"How the safe was removed is part of a (continuing ) investigation," said
Hawley. "Until we fully understand all the circumstances, it would be
premature for me to say whether we need to re-evaluate our security
processes."

Though the theft was reported in mid-July, the case dates back to May 24,
when agents assigned to an FBI Internet crime task force in Tampa received
an e-mail from a Belgian citizen who claimed membership in the Mineralogy
Club of Antwerp.

The so-far-unidentified Belgian informed authorities in Florida the club had
received an e-mail from an "Orb Robinson," later traced by investigators
back to Roberts, McWorter, Fowler and Saur, that proclaimed, "Priceless Moon
Rocks Now Available."

Posted on the club's Web site, i