Re: [meteorite-list] WHO IS ALL COMING
In a message dated 06/03/03 01:33:29 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While it might be questionable judgment to VOLUNTARILY leave the sunny 75 degrees of Malibu for the apparent arctic wasteland that is currently Northern Illinois, I'm going to be present for a few days. I'll probably end up being a sort of combination interpreter/chauffeur/roadie for Mr. Elliott, mostly as a public service to the USA. When Rob can actually come to the States as planned, i.e. no horses breaking his fingers at the last minute, it's a bit like the Crocodile Dundee moviesan odd-but-well-meaning guy with weird hair who talks funny, trying to keep up with life in the big city, in this case, the Windy one. My duties will largely involve beer-temperature monitoring and trying to talk him into trying various meats and delicacies which haven't been boiled, that sort of thing. Looking forward to meeting any and all for the above-mentioned "goog ol' time". ;-) Gregory Crikey! All I needed was a simple "Yes" or "No". But then, why write 5 words when 500 will do just as well, eh? ;-) See you there! Rob. www.meteorites.uk.com Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563 Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991 Mobile: 07909-773929 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] Collection Site Update
Hello all I have update my collection site with a new piece o Pultusk gr.371 with Vienna Label, L'Aigle end piece, DaG 400 0.63 slice, Gao mini oriented individual and others..and at few days I have a slice of 85 gr. of Trenzano. http://www.mcomemeteorite.info Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay Auctions Ending tonight
Hi All: I have ebay auctions ending tonight at around 10pm eastern time. Please scroll to the bottom of the page at thefollowing link to a list of all my auctions: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/catchafallingstar.com/ NOTICE: Ifthere are any of you who are interested in saving thephotos of the incredible 36 gramoriented Sikhote-alin that is up for auction, you should do so now as I will remove the photos from the server after the auction is ended. You have my permission to use these photos as you see fit. This auction started at one penny with no reserve and has already skyrocketed to a record price per gram. This justproves that there is always a market for high-qualitymeteorites. It will certainly be a special addition to the winner's collection. The item number on this piece is 2162303593. Bid high and Bid often! Jim
[meteorite-list] one last call
We have 6 people coming to the ILLINOIS Meteorite Bash. Are there any more?Last call before the fun starts. = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites Website url http://www.illinoismeteorites.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] one last call
If it was Saturday night, I'd try to make the trip. Regrets, Mark We have 6 people coming to the ILLINOIS Meteorite Bash. Are there any more?Last call before the fun starts. = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites Website url http://www.illinoismeteorites.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thuathe Meteorites
Hi list, I just wanted to share my excitement. I received my Fed-Ex box of Thuathe Meteorites Monday from Eric Olson. I couldn't be more pleased. I received 16 specimens and they are magnificent. All specimens exhibit varying amounts of fusion crust with apparent secondary crusting on some. The pictures on Eric's and Mike's web sites do not do the stones justice. I agree with Michael Cottingham's comments. It's exciting to have a new Fall renew one's enthusiasm about the hobby. Thanks again to everyone who took the risk to chase down the new Fall. 160.0 gr - slightly oriented, rich fusion crust, broken section w/ slickensides (timely for our list topic) 132.6 gr - nice crusted piece from a trade with the National University 127.3 gr - 67.98 gr - 48.29 gr - 46.87 gr - teardrop shaped, crusted individual. very cool 41.32 gr - 38.30 gr - nice rich crust 28.03 gr - 26.11 gr - well crusted individual 25.91 gr - 25.38 gr - 21.39 gr - slightly oriented, crusted individual 17.86 gr - 16.52 gr - nice oriented fragment, rich crust 11.86 gr - Happy hunting, Steve Smith __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] High-Quality Sikhote-Alin
A proud Jim Strope wrote: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/catchafallingstar.com/ photos of the incredible 36 gram oriented Sikhote-alin An authentic, metallic counterpart of a comet's head with - all its streamers and wisps, - a coma with amazing detail, - a beautiful tail with multiple, oriented disintegrations from the comet's head Oh, folks, what a meteorite !!! The lucky bidder can really call herself or himself lucky because I would jump at it without a second's hesitation if I had not acquired another of Jim's beauties recently! Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientists Say Mars Has Liquid Iron Core
Donald Savage Headquarters, Washington March 6, 2003 (Phone: 202/358-1547) Mary Hardin Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. (Phone: 818/354-0344) RELEASE: 03-094 SCIENTISTS SAY MARS HAS LIQUID IRON CORE New information about what is inside Mars shows the Red Planet has a molten liquid-iron core, confirming the interior of the planet has some similarity to Earth and Venus. Researchers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena, Calif., analyzing three years of radio tracking data from the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft, concluded Mars has not cooled to a completely solid iron core; rather its interior is made up of either a completely liquid iron core or a liquid outer core with a solid inner core. Their results are published in the March 7, 2003, online issue of the journal Science. Earth has an outer liquid-iron core and solid inner core. This may be the case for Mars as well, said Dr. Charles Yoder, a planetary scientist at JPL and lead author on the paper. Mars is influenced by the gravitational pull of the sun. This causes a solid body tide with a bulge toward and away from the sun (similar in concept to the tides on Earth). However, for Mars this bulge is much smaller, less than one centimeter. By measuring this bulge in the Mars gravity field we can determine how flexible Mars is. The size of the measured tide is large enough to indicate the core of Mars can not be solid iron but must be at least partially liquid, he explained. The team used Doppler tracking of a radio signal emitted by the Global Surveyor spacecraft to determine the precise orbit of the spacecraft around Mars. The tidal bulge is a very small but detectable force on the spacecraft. It causes a drift in the tilt of the spacecraft's orbit around Mars of one-thousandth of a degree over a month, said Dr. Alex Konopliv, a planetary scientist at JPL and co-author on the paper. The researchers combined information from Mars Pathfinder on the Mars precession with the Global Surveyor tidal detection to draw conclusions about the Mars core, according to Dr. Bill Folkner, another co-author on the paper at JPL. The precession is the slow motion of the spin-pole of Mars as it moves along a cone in space (similar to a spinning top). For Mars it takes 170,000 years to complete one revolution. The precession rate indicates how much the mass of Mars is concentrated toward the center. A faster precession rate indicates a larger dense core compared to a slower precession rate. In addition to detection of a liquid core for Mars, the results indicate the size of the core is about one-half the size of the planet, as is the case for Earth and Venus, and the core has a significant fraction of a lighter element such as sulfur. In addition to measuring the Mars tide, Global Surveyor has been able to estimate the amount of ice sublimated, changed directly into a gaseous state, from one pole into the atmosphere and then accreted onto the opposite pole. Our results indicate the mass change for the southern carbon- dioxide ice cap is 30 to 40 percent larger than the northern ice cap, which agrees well with the predictions of the global atmosphere models of Mars, said Yoder. The amount of total mass change depends on assumptions about the shape of the sublimated portion of the cap. The largest mass exchange occurs if one assumes the cap change is uniform or flat over the entire cap, while the lowest mass exchange corresponds to a conically shaped cap change. JPL manages the Mars Exploration Program for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington. JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena. -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA's Newest Map Reveal A Continent's Grandeur And A Secret (Chicxulub Crater)
Elvia H. Thompson Headquarters, WashingtonMarch 6, 2003 (Phone: 202/358-1696) Alan Buis Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. (Phone: 818/354-0474) Eric Berryman National Imagery Mapping Agency, Bethesda, Md. (Phone: 301/227-3132) RELEASE: 03-096 NASA'S NEWEST MAPS REVEAL A CONTINENT'S GRANDEUR AND A SECRET From Canada to Central America, the many grandeurs of North America's diverse topography star in a just-released high-resolution map from NASA's Shuttle Radar Topography Mission (SRTM). But a relatively obscure feature, all but hidden in the flat limestone plateau of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, is what emerges as the initial showstopper from the mission's first released continental data set. The existence of the impact crater, Chicxulub, was first proposed in 1980. In the 1990s, satellite data and ground studies allowed it to gain prominence among most scientists as the long sought-after smoking gun responsible for the demise of the dinosaurs and more than 70 percent of Earth's living species 65 million years ago. The SRTM has provided the most telling visible evidence to date of a 180-kilometer (112-mile) wide, 900-meter (3,000-foot) deep impact crater, the result of a collision with a giant comet or asteroid on one of Earth's all-time worst days. The North America and Yucatan Peninsula images created from the map are available on the JPL Planetary Photo journal at: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03377 http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA03379 This new, complete North American data set greatly expands our topographic knowledge of Canada, southern Alaska and its Aleutian Islands, Mexico and Central America, said Dr. Michael Kobrick, SRTM project scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena, Calif. There are spectacular features that pop out in these maps as never before, and more subtle features, like Chicxulub, become apparent for the first time. In fact, much of the surface expression of Chicxulub is so subtle; if you walked across it you probably wouldn't notice it. That's where the view from space becomes invaluable, Kobrick said. The Chicxulub data show a subtle, yet unmistakable, topographic indication of the impact crater's outer boundary: a semicircular trough 3 to 5 meters (10 to 15 feet) deep and 5 kilometers (3 miles) wide. Scientists believe the impact, centered off Yucatan's coast in the Caribbean, disturbed the subsurface rocks, making them unstable. The rocks were subsequently buried by limestone sediments, which erode easily. The crater rim's instability caused the limestone to fracture along the rim, forming the trough. In addition, the collapse of numerous limestone caverns above the crater rim resulted in an arcing chain of sinkholes, called cenotes, that are visible as small, circular depressions. Exactly how the Chicxulub impact caused Earth's mass extinctions is not known. Some scientists think it threw massive quantities of dust into the atmosphere, blocking the sun and stopping plants from growing. Others believe sulfur released by the impact lead to global sulfuric acid clouds that blocked the sun and also fell as acid rain. Another possibility is global wildfires triggered by atmospheric reentry of red-hot debris. The remainder of the North American data paints a dynamic portrait of a geologically complex continent. Active structural deformations of Earth's crust along and near the Pacific/North American tectonic plate boundary create the diverse topographic relief of the Pacific coast. Across the Great Plains, erosional patterns dominate, with stream channels surrounding and penetrating remnants of older smooth slopes. In Canada and the northern U.S., evidence of glaciers from the last ice age abounds. In February, NASA finished processing the mission's data and delivered it to the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA). More than eight terabytes of data recorded aboard the Space Shuttle Endeavour were refined into 200 billion research-quality measurements of Earth's landforms. The NIMA will perform additional data finishing and send it to the U.S. Geological Survey's Earth Resources Observation Systems Data Center, Sioux Falls, S.D., for final archiving and distribution. South America will be the next continental dataset. The SRTM, flown Feb. 11 to 22, 2000, made 3-D measurements of the more than 80 percent of Earth's landmass located between 60 degrees north and 56 degrees south of the equator; areas home to nearly 95 percent of the world's population. SRTM is a cooperative project of NASA, NIMA, the Department of Defense, the German and Italian space agencies. Fulfilling part of NASA's mission to understand and protect our home planet, it is managed by JPL for NASA's Earth Science Enterprise, Washington. The California Institute of Technology in Pasadena manages JPL for NASA. For more information about SRTM on the
[meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes - Meteorite People Article Updated
Dear list and especially Martin Horejsi, My apologies to Martin as I failed to transfer one of his e-mails with 3 pictures from my laptop to my desktop. I updated Martin's article this morning to include the Eagles Nest, Haraiya, and Twodot images. If you have already read March's Meteorite People with Martin please look at it again with the new images. http://www.meteoritetimes.com/ Thank you! Paul ** Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. http://www.meteorite.com MeteoriteTimes.com http://www.meteoritetimes.com PMB#455 P.O. Box 7000, Redondo Beach, CA 90277 USA *** __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar Flash Doesn't Pan Out
http://skyandtelescope.com/news/current/article_890_1.asp Lunar Flash Doesn't Pan Out By J. Kelly Beatty Sky Telescope March 5, 2003 For the past few weeks, impact aficionados have been abuzz over the apparent confirmation that a house-size object struck the Moon on November 15, 1953. The bright flare captured that evening by Leon H. Stuart's backyard telescope matches the position of a small, fresh-looking crater recorded by a spacecraft three decades later. Bonnie J. Buratti (Jet Propulsion Laboratory) and Lane Johnson, a student at Pomona College, unearthed this 1½-kilometer-wide smoking gun in data from the Clementine orbiter, whose high-definition cameras mapped the entire Moon in 1994. Although the annals of amateur astronomy chronicle hundreds of such transient lunar phenomena, almost all considered suspect by professionals, Stuart's event stands apart because it was both seen and photographed. That fact, together with the Clementine evidence, allowed Buratti and Johnson to make a convincing case in January's issue of the scientific journal Icarus. A press release even trumpeted NASA Solves Half-Century Old Moon Mystery. But a little more historical digging would have shown that there was no mystery to begin with. John E. Westfall (Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers) has discovered that the bright blip seen by Clementine also appears in a series of telescopic plates taken decades before Stuart snapped his controversial exposure. In particular, Westfall notes, the feature is pretty obvious in photographs made with Mount Wilson's 100-inch Hooker telescope in 1919. It also turned up on plates taken in 1937 with the 36-inch refractor at Lick Observatory and in others acquired with Catalina Observatory's 61-inch reflector in 1966. It's kind of disappointing, Buratti said when told of Westfall's revelation. But it's more important to find that out. In researching their paper, she and Johnson had examined a few telescopic images for a small crater at the impact's presumed coordinates but found nothing. A search of Lunar Orbiter frames, taken during the 1960s, also turned up empty. They concluded that the candidate crater must be too small (roughly 0.8 arcsecond across) to be resolved by ground-based efforts. Even before Westfall came forward, doubts had been growing about the Stuart-Clementine connection. For one thing, Stuart reported that the bright flare lasted at least 8 seconds, an implausibly long fireball for so small a crater. We now know that an event of that scale should last no longer than a second, but [Stuart] didn't, comments impact specialist Alan W. Harris (Space Science Institute). Other concerns were raised about the freshness of Buratti and Johnson's candidate crater. Solar-wind bombardment causes lunar material to darken and redden over time, but researchers believe such space weathering takes place slowly over millions of years. Thus, if 20-meter-wide objects slam into the Moon frequently (often enough to make Stuart's sighting statistically plausible), then the lunar landscape should be peppered with 100,000 bright, fresh-looking splashes - and it isn't. You can't have it both ways, notes Harris. Finally, the positional match wasn't as good as Buratti and Johnson first thought. Careful measurement of Stuart's image by Sky Telescope editors Dennis di Cicco and Gary Seronik, as well as by Westfall, shows that the flare is centered a full 1°, or 30 km, from the Clementine candidate. So, if it wasn't a flashy impact, what did Leon Stuart see and photograph a half century ago? Some have suggested that it was a point meteor, headed directly at the camera, but that is ruled out by the flare's duration. Moreover, the spot on the photographic plate is perfectly round, arguing against a stray reflection or emulsion defect. In 1967 Stuart's original underwent a battery of tests at the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory. But today the whereabouts of the original plate are unknown, and without it the true mystery of Stuart's event may never be solved. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Green Fireball Sighted Over Canada
http://www.canoe.ca/NationalTicker/CANOE-wire.Green-Fireball.html Ontario, Quebec police get calls of green things in sky; likely a fireball caneo.ca (Canada) March 5, 2003 TORONTO (CP) -- A green blaze that streaked through the skies over Central Canada on Wednesday night, promoting curious and concerned calls to police, was likely a fireball. Richard Huziak, a member of the Royal Astronomical Society, said it sounded like people were treated to a bright meteor or fireball. It sounds like basically some sort of major natural fireball. It's not unusual to have fireballs, Huziak said Wednesday night. Green is the most prominent colour of the fireballs, which are brighter than any celestial object other than the moon and sun, according to the Meteorites and Impacts Advisory Committee, a branch of the Canadian Space Agency. The fireballs are often the size of a small car, Huziak said. Because of their relatively large size, sometimes they can burn brightly enough to even turn off streetlights as they pass, he added. Quebec provincial police got phone calls Wednesday night describing a bright object that flew through the sky for two to three seconds before disappearing in a final burst of light. Reports of seeing several green things in the sky are intriguing because it might mean multiple fireballs or that the fireball fragmented. But multiple fireballs are unlikely. A few reports need to come in for this event to be characterized for certain, he said. Most people never see one in a whole lifetime. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] High-Quality Sikhote-Alin
Hello Bernd and list, Bernd wrote The lucky bidder can really call herself or himself lucky because I would jump at it without a second's hesitation if I had not acquired another of Jim's beauties recently! I have to agree. That is probley the best Sikhote I have seen in quite a while. Even better then the very nice oriented Sikhote I bought from Jim last week. Which makes me wonder..where did I put that meteorite??? Strange, all my favorite sikhotes came from Jim. Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trenton, Wisconsin
Thanks, Dave. They turned out, and I can see why you like it. Maybe I'll be as lucky someday. Mark - Original Message - From: Dave Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Trenton, Wisconsin Greetings list members. Speaking of Trenton, Wisconsin. I purchased a cool 110.5 gram partslice of the Trenton Meteorite from Mike Farmer a few years back that has the original old Wards label. Just wanted to share a few pictures of it with everyone, as long as they turn out. I know that I really enjoy seeing meteorites from other list members, so I hope that you will enjoy these! Even though I don`t necessarily collect Irons, I`m sure that this one will be in my personal collection for a long time! Thanks, Dave. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Someone near Annapolis?
Hi, Someone from Annapolis reported the find of a possible meteorite (= metal object) through our Dutch Meteor Society website. Anyone among you near that locality which is willing and able to check it up? Then drop me a note off-list and I will provide the contact details. It is a 'vague' report, so I do not know what you'll get to see. - Marco -- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? William Shakespeare The Tempest act I scene 2 -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 10-1939 Searching Odessa Crater
Title: Zanesville Signal City: Zanesville, Ohio Date: Thursday, October 12, 1939 WPA Laborers Search For Meteor in Texas ODESSA, TEXAS - (UP) - A crew of twenty WPA laborers are digging eight miles southeast of here in search of a meteor that struck the earth many years ago and left a crater 500 feet in diameter. Dr. E. H. Sellards, University of Texas geologist, said that the only known crater of larger size is the mile-wide Canyon Diablo pit in Arizona. Dr. Sellards discovered the Ector county cater in 1927 and determined that it was caused by an iron meteorite that struck the earth thousands of years ago. The geologist did not predict how large a meteor may be found buried at the bottom of the crater. It may easily have exploded at the impact. Dr. Sellards said. We have already found several fragments. The excavation is expected to furnish considerable information about the effect of a meteor falling to earth. A two-mile branch road has been built to the project, which is expected to be finished within a year. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 11-1969 Aerolite Burst in Georgia
Paper: St Joseph Herald City: St Joseph, Mi Date: Saturday, November 13, 1869 Page: 2 Under a section with news briefs noted as Incidents and Accidents An aerolite burst recently in Southwest Georgia, in the day time, with an explosion that has heard for thirty miles around, and the several fragments fell in different parts of the surrouding country. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1969 Moon Rocks and Meteorites
Title: The Post Crescent City: Appleton, Wi Date: Sunday, July 13, 1969 Page: A6 More Precious Than Diamonds Rocks Will Answer Moon's Secrets By Alton Blakeslee Eleven days from now, an extraordinary shipment is due from the moon. It will weigh 50 to 60 pounds and be vacuum-packed inside two metal boxes. If a price tage could be placed upon it, the bidding might start at 100 times the value of the same amount of diamonds. It will be a collection of rocks and dust, hand-picked from the lonely surface of the moon by two American astronauts, the first men on the moon. They may be rather ordinary rocks or exotic rocks: in either case they will be priceless because they will be the first specimens known to have come from the moon, or any other known place in the universe. Several hundred impatient scientists in 13 nations will be waiting to interrogate these rocks, pouncing on them for what they really represent - pages out of the history of the mysterious challenging moon. Quarantine Period Are you dangerous? will be the first question. Do these rocks carry germs, viruses, peculiar life forms that might sweep in a bizarre epidemic among people on earth? They will be quarantined, isolated, for at least three weeks while this worry is tested out. But then the questions from scientists will flurry. How were you born? Tell, tell - is the moon you came from a sister, or a daughter, or a captive wive of this planet earth? Is the moon's deep interior hot or cold? Did a volcano spew you out from inside the moon? Did a meteorite flashing in from space a 7 to 45 miles per second, rip you from the bowels of the moon, or in its hellish, cataclysmic explosion create you from molten moon material that then formed into a rock? Tell, tell, tell! This first sample of the moon rock is bound to tell something, if perhaps only a tease a bit longer the advocates of various theories as to how the moon and earth began, how they are related. Perhaps they will put some theories to death. Is the moon the earth's sister? By this theory, earth and moon began as great clouds of space dust, which condensed under gravitational pressure to form planetary bodies wheeling around the sun, about 4 1/2 billion years ago. The rocks may answer. Is the moon the earth's daughter? When one great blod of condensing space dust was congealing into more solid matter, was the moon pulled out to become a satellite of the earth? Or - in a theory pretty well discarded - was the moon rippd out of the Pacific Ocean basin eos ago when the earth was spinning faster than now? The rocks may tell. Or was the moon a wandering planet which happened to approach too close to the earth and sun, thus becoming a captive wife of the earth? Does the moon have a molten core at its center - as the earth does - or was it formed cool, never alive with hot fires from radioactivity or other causes? Were the moon's tremendous craters and so-called seas formed by volcanic action, or by the brutal bombardment of great and small meteorites? Unlike the earth, the moon has no cushioning atmosphere to incinerate chunks of stone and metal homing in from outer space. Does the moon have life on or under its surface, even if it be in the form of suspended animation, like a virus that can be freeze-dried, then reactivated on contact with water? Did life on earth begin from curious spores floating in from somewhere in space, as one old theory holds, and if so, could there not be similar spores on the moon? Does the moon have the beginnings of organic materials out of which life might spontaneously spring? Some specialists think the moon's seas once were really seas, but that the water long ago evaporated. Dr. Harold Urey, a Nobel laurete and moon specialists, proposes that once, when the moon and earth were much closer together, a great body from space hit the earth, splashing a great geyser of water onto the moon, carrying primitive life organisms from the earth to the moon. Dusty History Other scientists think the moon's dusty surface may contain a history of the moon, sun and space dating back billions of years. The moon's surface could be like a dusty table that has never had a swipe from a housewife's cloth, never disturbed by wind or rain, hence supplying a record of things past, just as layers of rocks and sediments and imbedded forssil supply a history of the earth. The moon could be a facsimile of how the earth looks and was billions of years ago, before erosion, volcanic activity, mountain building - and man's aterations - changed its first face. Major features of the moon have not changed since Galileo first peered at the moon with his primitive telescope in 1610. Major actions altering the moon's face, whether from volcanoes or the imoact of huge meteorites, or both, appear to be over. Soviet and American observers believe they have detected signs of volcanic
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 02-1896 The Madrid Aerolite
Title: Fort Wayne Weekly Gazette City: Fort Wayne, In Date: Thursday, February 13, 1896 Page: 4 The Madrid Aerolite The tremendous explosion of an aerolite over the city of Madrid last Monday has attracted world-wide attention. We have seen no notice as yet of the fall of the fragments to the earth. It is almost beyond question that such fragments will be found within a radius of not more than twenty-five to forty miles of that city. Had it been in the night those fragments would have been seen for some moments after the explosion and the course they were pursuing and the probable region in which they would fall would have been determined. It is not a proper use of the word to call it an explosion of the aerolite. The shock of the concussion of a body moving, as these meteors do, with a velocity of forty or fifty miles per second, with the earth's atmosphere, is sufficient to cause the deafening noise and to break even a solid mass of stone into fragments, just as a cake of ice or a pane of glass would be broken by falling on a stone sidewalk. From the fact that the detonation was very loud we are not necessarily to infer that the aerolite was of huge dimensions. The noise, and even the size of the fragments might be related more directly to the velocity and therefore the force of impact, than to the size of the body. There have been cases where the aerolite was reduced almost to powder by the concussion. If fragments are not soon found we may suspect that such has been the case in this instance. The space through which the earth is now passing seems to be richer in aerolites than almost any other part of our annual path. We reach another such point in the early part of May. The great Iowa meteor fell on the 12th of Febuary but its explosion (?) did not occur till it was nearer the earth. The largest fragment of that meteor found weighed about ninety pounds. The character of the February and the May meteorites is about the same; about 90 per cent. of stony matter and the remainder nickel and iron. The outward resemblance is sometimes so strong that fragments of different meteorites can scarcely be distinguished except by their labels. Mark Note: I use (?) as a reference that I am unsure of the spelling of the word preceeding. That is not a case in this article which does contain the (?). __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NP Article, Meteorite In Pawnshop
Title: The Democratic Standard City: Coshocton, Oh Date: Friday, August 03, 1900 Page: 2 From Sky to Pawnshop Pawnbrokers take some curious pledges but it is not often that they recieve one from another world. A London pawnshop however exhidits in its window as an unredeemed pledge a magnificent aerolite, a mass of fused metal that fell as it it were, from heaven to provide a poor man with his beer. A ticket bears the statement that it was brought from the arctic regions by a sailor - New York Tribune (Mark Note: Dno't try this at home.:-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ice Diary 3: Cheer for Team Meteorite
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=391mode=threadorder=0thold=0 Ice Diary 3: Cheer for Team Meteorite Astrobiology Magazine March 6, 2003 Summary: The Ice Diary series explores the adventures of a dedicated group of meteor hunters. The National Science Foundation, NASA and the Smithsonian collect and curate extraterrestrial samples scoured from the South Pole. This week's chronicle highlights the food, history and ecosystem of their southern astronomical window on the universe. Ice Diary 3 Cheer for Team Meteorite Ed. note: On March 4, the U.S. McMurdo station said that fifty U.S. workers will be airlifted off Antarctica on a special flight to spare them from spending the winter on the frozen continent. The mission will come a week after U.S. flights to Antarctica ended for months as round-the-clock darkness descended on the continent. If the Americans don't leave soon, they will have to spend the next six months at an Antarctic base because plunging temperatures make it too risky to fly. The temperature was likely to be down to 22 degrees below zero on the ice. 3 December, 2002 We're delayed again today from our field deployment, not by weather, but by a medical emergency. Someone coming out of the Dry Valleys experienced an aneurysm and had to be evacuated to New Zealand. This tied up the C-130s and has delayed us until tomorrow. There could be much worse places to be stranded than McMurdo. In fact, this has given each of us a chance to see other types of research taking place here and a chance to explore a little. Some of the most interesting work being done here is the study of the marine biology just below the sea ice. Divers go into this sub-freezing water to study the ecosystems that exist below. One might be inclined to think that little exists below the ice, but actually life is thriving. Some of the animals are represented in the McMurdo aquarium, a room full of holding tanks where these animals are being studied. I was most impressed by the Antarctic cod that were over 3 feet long. They also had one of the largest sea stars I've ever seen. The tanks were full of several other invertebrates, including urchins, chitins, and other mollusks. After visiting the aquarium, Alan offered to show us the desalination plant. This is an amazing marvel of chemistry and engineering. Prior to 1996, a distillation process produced all of McMurdo's fresh water. The seawater was heated, and the steam was then condensed and recaptured. This caused water rationing due to its inefficiency. In 1996, they installed a reverse-osmosis filtration system that pumps seawater through a series of filters until fresh water is produced. Alan opened a valve right on the filter to let us taste the water. It was delicious. The water's acidity (pH) is adjusted and chlorine is added before the water is sent to the buildings. It is not an inexpensive solution. Each filter costs $250,000. Earlier this year, tetrapods (small marine invertebrates similar to jellyfish) were getting caught in the filters. A screen had to be set up where the water is drawn from the sea to catch the tetrapods before they got into the filters. They seem to have the problem solved and there is plenty of fresh water at McMurdo. 4 December, 2002 Well, our chances of getting out to the field site looked good this morning. We heard the pilots were resting and we would be going soon after. Then the weather took a turn, and our flights were cancelled again. I woke up not feeling my best this morning, and several members of the team have complained of the same sore throat and runny nose. I didn't think much of it until Jamie and Lynn mentioned I didn't sound too good at lunch. I decided to check out the McMurdo clinic. Jerry Seinfeld says that you're required to wait when you go to the doctor; that's why it's called a waiting room. But this doctor saw me right away. He said he's seen many people with the same symptoms. He took one look at my throat and gave me some amazing New Zealand lozenges that not only soothe my throat, but also put my tongue to sleep. When I got back to the dorm, several other members of the team wanted to try them for themselves. Dr. Dean Eppler shared with me his description of living in the tents and what to expect in the field. The following is an excerpt of one of his e-mails: This is the 25th season the ANSMET folks have been in the field down here, and for John Schutt, the mountaineer who's going to be accompanying my group, it's the 22nd season. In that time, they've come up with a pretty good system for living working in the field that revolves around Scott tents, good sleeping bags, and small backpacking stoves. Scott tents are named after Robert Falcon Scott, who froze to death in one after returning from his first trip to the Pole in the early 1900s. They are large, four-poled tents that are very easily and quickly set up, even in a high wind, and provide a floor space
RE: [meteorite-list] Thuathe
All: Let me echo everyone's comments about Thuathe--SHE'S A BEAUTY! It's really exciting as an astronomer to get such a _fresh_ specimen...the fusion crust is simply underrated in the photos and verbally--you've got to see this one! Let me also echo everyone's THANKS to Mike and Eric--a job well done, guys! (And an additional thanks to Mike who always seems to get things out on a timely basis.) Keep Looking Up, Mike Mike D. Reynolds, Ph.D. Foundation President Chabot Space Science Center 510-336-7345 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] LOOKING FOR CANYON DIABLO
Hi list. I am looking for a nice size piece of canyon diablo.I have $300 to spend, Who can help me out.Also the piece should be very clean.Let me know. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites Website url http://www.illinoismeteorites.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Thuathe
I am finally getting a bit caught up. After being gone 9 days my kids felt they had more claim on my time than the computer did. My wife was very gracious about being left alone with the kids for 9 days. She suggested that if I was headed back any time soon I should consider a one way ticket ;-). It was a great trip, aside from the plane rides and Mike and I trying to kill ourselves one day. The people were very friendly and we never had a bit of trouble. In fact when we stopped for a coke one time, I accidently dropped some bills on the seat as I got out and both our guides let me know I had dropped the money. It was a pleasure working with these guys. Aside from the actual collection of the meteorites one of the best times for me was at David Ambrose's house. Mike and I arrived unannounced and knocked on the door. When we told him were were interested in talking about meteorites he agreed to talk to us for a few minutes. We left 2 1/2 hours later after repeatedly declining to stay for lunch. We got the whole story, what he heard and did right after it fell. He collected data from students returning back to school from all over Lesotho to determine where meteorites might have landed. He missed by less than 10km based on verbal descriptions. He told how they finally found the strewn field and the early collections. The data he collected was amazing. Not only weights and locations, but who found the piece, who collected it and who it was transfered to if it collector hadn't kept it. How many faces (facets) each piece had, whether they were broken faces or not. What the dimensions were in mm and any interesting features about the piece or where it was found. One of the pieces I was able to acquire in trade with him was a 94 gram piece that was found on a roof 3 months after the fall. You can see a photo of the piece on my Thuathe page. Much more data than on any other fall I have seen. Looking at the pieces he had put us on cloud 9. The largest complete stone 2.3kg is an absolute wonder. You can see a photo of it on Mike's adventure web page. So far it is not for sale. Mike and I left with a few pieces and copies of the campus newsletters Dr Ambrose wrote. It was a very enjoyable couple hours. I still have some pieces of thuathe left. I just updated the web pages deleting all the sold material so everyone can see what is still available. http://www.star-bits.com/thuathe.htm Eric Olson ELKK Meteorites http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where to get Riker Mounts?
Thanks for the plug! Ron Hartman www.membranebox.com - Original Message - From: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Marmet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Where to get Riker Mounts? Peter Marmet wrote: Meteorites look quite nice in these black +Riker Mount; boxes. Don't forget, Peter, your smaller specimens look even nicer in those suspension boxes which allow easy and comfortable viewing on both sides !!! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: EBAY AUCTIONS JUST A FEW HOURS!!!
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: EBAY AUCTIONS JUST A FEW HOURS!!! Hello Everyone, Goto: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Auctions ending in a few hours!! Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham
Re: [meteorite-list] LOOKING FOR CANYON DIABLO
Hello Steve, I have 3 Canyon Diablo's here http://www.meteorman.org/meteorite_frame.htm Sincerely, Tim Heitz Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: Hi list. I am looking for a nice size piece of canyon diablo.I have $300 to spend, Who can help me out.Also the piece should be very clean.Let me know. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites Website url http://www.illinoismeteorites.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Concentrate Their Search In Galway, Ireland
http://www.galwayadvertiser.ie/dws/story.tpl?inc=2003/03/06/news/32418.html Meteorite hunters concentrate their search in Galway Galway Advertiser (Ireland) March 6, 2003 ASTRONOMERS AND treasure hunters continue to search for the valuable meteorite thought to have fallen somewhere in Galway early in February. Preliminary reports about the fireball witnessed over Irish skies early on February 12 suggest that the meteorite may have fallen in county Galway, in Galway Bay, or off the coast of Clare but so far the exact location of the rock has not been determined. According to local astronomy organisation Galway Astronomy Club, precise sightings by two people in Galway, one on the right hand side of Galway airport and the other on the left hand side of the Tuam Rd, indicate the meteorite landed in the vicinity of Galway Bay. Chairman of the organisation Martin Quirke told the Galway Advertiser the fireball probably entered the earth's atmosphere at roughly 100,000mph and started glowing about 100 miles above Ireland. In just a couple of seconds it would have slowed down and streaked across the sky glowing extremely brightly, burning out perhaps 15-20 miles above ground. This end point is where any meteorites would have fallen, silently and invisibly as they would no longer be glowing. They would have struck the ground or sea at about 200mph, roughly five minutes after the fireball flash. Meteorites hitting the earth at this relatively low speed would not have caused a crater and would have been very cold to the touch had anyone picked one up right away. Once the location of this possible meteorite fall has been determined, a search of the land can be started. It may then be possible to locate the rarest form of space debris -- an Irish meteorite. It is extremely rare for a meteorite to land in a country as small as Ireland. Only two were found on this island in the 20th century, one in Northern Ireland in 1969, and another in County Carlow in 1999. If one were discovered in Galway we would be very anxious to keep it in an Irish museum, or even a Galway one. Obviously it would be a very valuable find. Depending on the meteorite's size (anywhere from the size of a golf ball to a tennis ball) and where it originates from, it could have a value of up to EUR 100,000. A Scotsman has already expressed a keen interest in the rock, offering the finder EUR 20,000. The Galway Astronomy Club is asking the public to contact the organisation's chairman Martin Quirke at (091) 528347 if they come across any unusual rocks. It is also appealing to anyone who operates a security camera to check their tapes for 7.10am on the morning of February 12. It could hold vital clues to the rock's location. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gold basin this weekend
Hello List, Is there, by chance any heading to gold basin this weekend? I am going out, and if anyone else is or wants to I would like to meet up! Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorwrong ?
Hello List, My mother in law said she had a rock she found in OK. that looks just like my meteorites. Indeed it did, But its not a meteorite, I do not know what it is. It looks to have a thin crust, it is not attract a magnet in the slightest. It does not look like any slag I have seen. It seems to be made of natural material. What weird is it looks like it was melted and poured down a small hole in the ground. I feel like it could have been made by a lightning strike. I live in a very volcanic area and am getting to know volcanic rock pretty good and does not look it at all. Any ideas of what this can be??? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong ?
Hi Tom Had you thought of a volcanic bomb? These are ejecta which can travel some distance before hitting ground, depending on the strength of the eruption. Do a search on google.com under volcanic bombs and you'll get a lot of returns which have great photos. Mark --- Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, My mother in law said she had a rock she found in OK. that looks just like my meteorites. Indeed it did, But its not a meteorite, I do not know what it is. It looks to have a thin crust, it is not attract a magnet in the slightest. It does not look like any slag I have seen. It seems to be made of natural material. What weird is it looks like it was melted and poured down a small hole in the ground. I feel like it could have been made by a lightning strike. I live in a very volcanic area and am getting to know volcanic rock pretty good and does not look it at all. Any ideas of what this can be??? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay Auctions ended at few hours
Hello all If interested go here http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ is available a slice of my new Impact Meltin the next week I have the Bologna Show and many want this meteorite.probably this is the last big slice available. Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
