[meteorite-list] What's Your Favourite Ordinary Chondrite?
G'day List, Today I got tothinking how most of the 'Prestige' in meteorites generallygoes to the Achondrites, Pallasites etc. The good lookers! ;-) So I thought I wouldthrow this out to everyone and ask what your favourite Ordinary Chondrite is because there are some really amazing meteorites which this classification. It doesn't matter what your reason is. It may be that it's just a really attractive piece or possibly the story behind how it was found or fell.If everyone gets into the spirit of it,I'll tally up all the answers in a week or soand let everyone know the Top Picks! We may find some surprising results! You can give up to5 favouritesandI'll start with thesepicks: 1) Knyachinya (L/LL5) - Birthday meteorite with great fresh crust and a really nice colourful brecciated matrix. 2) Parnallee (LL3.6) - Put simply: Rare, Old andAwesome matrix. 3) NWA 965 (LL4) - Tiny TKW with a matrix choc full of multi-coloured crisp chondrules. 4) Richfield (LL3.7) - If you haven't seen a larger piece or a goodphoto of one; time to change that! 5) Bensour (LL6) - As fresh dramatic as it gets. Whitish matrix with jet black fusion crust! Too cool! Looking forward to hearing some responses, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteoritesaustralia.com (P.S. It's not as easy as you think!)
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Your Favourite Ordinary Chondrite?
Hello all Uhmmm.may hard thisI see what is possible write: 1) Siena - why is a oldest italian fall and have a nice matrix 2) Sinawan 001 - for the nice matrix with veins 3) St.Severin - for the nice brecciation in my slice 4) Karatu - for the nice grey matrix with black veins 5) Vjatka - for the brecciation - if is visible type my slice 6) Dhofar 010 - for the strange matrix All pieces visible in my collection site Regards Matteo --- Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day List, Today I got to thinking how most of the 'Prestige' in meteorites generally goes to the Achondrites, Pallasites etc. The good lookers! ;-) So I thought I would throw this out to everyone and ask what your favourite Ordinary Chondrite is because there are some really amazing meteorites which this classification. It doesn't matter what your reason is. It may be that it's just a really attractive piece or possibly the story behind how it was found or fell. If everyone gets into the spirit of it, I'll tally up all the answers in a week or so and let everyone know the Top Picks! We may find some surprising results! You can give up to 5 favourites and I'll start with these picks: 1) Knyachinya (L/LL5) - Birthday meteorite with great fresh crust and a really nice colourful brecciated matrix. 2) Parnallee (LL3.6) - Put simply: Rare, Old and Awesome matrix. 3) NWA 965 (LL4) - Tiny TKW with a matrix choc full of multi-coloured crisp chondrules. 4) Richfield (LL3.7) - If you haven't seen a larger piece or a good photo of one; time to change that! 5) Bensour (LL6) - As fresh dramatic as it gets. Whitish matrix with jet black fusion crust! Too cool! Looking forward to hearing some responses, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteoritesaustralia.com (P.S. It's not as easy as you think!) = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] hangman crossing
It is an indiana fall. TKW is 1300 grams.Hangman crossing!Just wondering if any is available.Would someone who is an expert in these rather obscure meteorites please get to me please? thanks, steve! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gao Offer from Burkina Faso
Hello All. I want to ask You who received any emails from guys from Burkina who offered some Gao or/and Nadiabondi. This is verry strange, becouse I have now offer from 6 diferent guys ! They send this crap only to me or to all meteorite dealers ? Price is good, around 500$/kg but how to find this honest one ? I'ii send money and newer get anything :)) like always. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.polandmet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vistapro.prv.pl +GSM (607) 535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Schoner
Hello all This is a email Steve have sent to me few days ago: To all, I would like to thank all of you that sent me kind letters of encouragement while I was in the hospital for over a month. I am recovering. It is hard to say where I will be a in the months ahead. My language skills are good, but there are areas of my brain that are not so well. Hard to say what I was like before this happened, but I do know that there areas that I will have to focus on to come back fully. It will be a long period of rehab. It is amazing what a month in the hospital can do to ones muscles. Anyway-- here is what happened. I fell ill in in the early part of Jan. I was ill for two days, and getting worse by the moment. Then on the first day of the illness one of the plant lights came on, and I wanted to turn it off. I got up to do so, and I noticed that my right side was going limp, but still not completely gone. Then when I got to the light, I found that I could not turn off the light. It was as if I could not figure it out-- Shutting a light down. It did not make sense. But there it was... I could not figure it out. I knew then that something was very, very wrong with me. Yet I could not express what it was. I was quickly losing my ability to speak. I slept through the night, and into the next day, and my wife was wondering what was wrong with me. After seeing me, she decided that it would be best to take me to the hospital...which she did. It was there that the real nightmare began... The condition was rapidly getting worse and I was beginning to lose consciousness. I went through two MRI's then the lights went out as I went into a coma. A very strange thing happened at that point. I saw a number of very strange things. I could see my brain being worked on by someone with medical tools of some kind. I tried to turn my direction to the sound to see who they were but they vanished. Then, a most amazing thing happened... I saw my folks, my father, brother, wife and a doctor in the room together. Now, what makes this so strange is that I wear very thick glasses, so thick that I cannot see with out them. Now, even though I was in a coma, unable to see, and not having my glasses at the hospital, I saw them clearly, better than I have ever seen them before. I heard the doctor say to my parents: I just want to give you a warning... Do not get your hopes up too high, for a person in Steve's condition usually does not come back. And if so, they are quite disabled after... I heard this clearly, and wondered about it, for at the time, I seemed okay. And I also had a religious experience too, a NDE... very profound and very intense. What did I have? ADEM (Acute Dessemminating Encypalo-Mylitus), a very rare disease that has since first discovered in 1941 affecting about 1500 people world wide. No one knows what cases it, and there is no cure. It just happens and those so affected usually wind up as vegitalbles or dead... very, very few survive retaining all of their functions. My prognosis did not look good, for the ones that did survive were usually 5 to 7. With just a few in my 52 year age group. (In fact, I think that I am the oldest survivor, but I will have to look it up). I survived it... Coming out of the coma after 5 days, and not knowing where I was or what was going on around me. My right side was gone, could not use it. And my left brain was in limbo, not able to comprehend where I was. It did not look good. But I tried to grasp where I was, and it soon became evident that I was in a hospital, with nurses around me, and that somehow, I was there because something had happened to me. My right side was limp and gone, and I knew that this was the reason. And I also knew from the weird focus of my left brain that the world was different than what I had experienced. And as I probed my thought processes things began to come back. But I could not talk until 15 days after, and only in very broken sentences. Eventually, my linguistic skills are very good, but my math, and other math related skills are pretty much gone. And my right side is back, but it feels somewhat strange as at times it does not feel like it belongs to me. I also found that the doctors had cut a 5.5 inch hole in my head to get a portion of my brain for analysis, which of course they then sewed up. I suspect that much of my problems might be due to this, but under the conditions that I was in, the doctors had no choice... They had to know... nothing was found... which is typical of ADEM Where am I now... I am coming back. Not fully here, but coming. And I want to thank everyone here for having prayed for me in this very trying time. I am a different person now, seeing things differently. It takes something like this to really change a person's perspective. Best Regards, Steve Schoner Regards Matteo --- almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I haven't heard any word on how Steve is
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Your Favourite Ordinary Chondrite?
Hell Jeff and list, My favorite Ordinary Chondrite, Portales Valley! The reason is self explanatory! Thanks, TomThe proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken To: Meteorite List Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:50 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] What's Your Favourite Ordinary Chondrite? G'day List, Today I got tothinking how most of the 'Prestige' in meteorites generallygoes to the Achondrites, Pallasites etc. The good lookers! ;-) So I thought I wouldthrow this out to everyone and ask what your favourite Ordinary Chondrite is because there are some really amazing meteorites which this classification. It doesn't matter what your reason is. It may be that it's just a really attractive piece or possibly the story behind how it was found or fell.If everyone gets into the spirit of it,I'll tally up all the answers in a week or soand let everyone know the Top Picks! We may find some surprising results! You can give up to5 favouritesandI'll start with thesepicks: 1) Knyachinya (L/LL5) - Birthday meteorite with great fresh crust and a really nice colourful brecciated matrix. 2) Parnallee (LL3.6) - Put simply: Rare, Old andAwesome matrix. 3) NWA 965 (LL4) - Tiny TKW with a matrix choc full of multi-coloured crisp chondrules. 4) Richfield (LL3.7) - If you haven't seen a larger piece or a goodphoto of one; time to change that! 5) Bensour (LL6) - As fresh dramatic as it gets. Whitish matrix with jet black fusion crust! Too cool! Looking forward to hearing some responses, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteoritesaustralia.com (P.S. It's not as easy as you think!)
[meteorite-list] Barrage of Meteors May Have Doomed the Dinosaurs
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/11/science/space/11EXTI.html Barrage of Meteors May Have Doomed the Dinosaurs By KENNETH CHANG New York Times March 11, 2003 Scientists are arguing again over the idea that the combination of cataclysms that doomed the dinosaurs 65 million years ago - titanic volcanic eruptions in India and a meteor impact off the coast of Mexico - may not have been a coincidence after all. For decades, some geologists have theorized that the force of an extraterrestrial rock crashing into Earth could have cracked its crust thousands of miles away and allowed molten lava to spill out from the interior. But no one has yet found any solid evidence. Now, though, researchers at University College London are suggesting that the Indian lava flows are the impact site of an earlier, larger meteor, and that evidence of the impact was submerged by upwelling lava. In this view, the mass extinction of dinosaurs and other creatures was caused not by a single meteor, but by a barrage of them. The new work is provoking another burst of theories and debate over the demise of the dinosaurs, which has never been explained to everyone's agreement. The new theory, which the researchers described in a scientific journal recently, holds that a meteor at least 12 miles wide - at least twice as wide as the one that struck Mexico - would melt some rock, but not nearly the amount seen in the lava flows, known as the Deccan Traps, which cover hundreds of thousands of square miles of what is now India. Rather, the researchers said, the impact would cause decompression melting of already hot rocks deep within the earth. Tens of miles below the surface, temperatures reach more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit but rocks remain solid because of the high pressure exerted by the rocks weighing down above them. Computer simulations indicate that once the meteor impact blew away the overlying rocks, the ones below, relieved of pressure, could then have turned to lava. The whole story is what happens underneath the crater, said Dr. Adrian P. Jones, a geologist at University College London and lead author of an article that appeared in Earth and Planetary Science Letters last year. It's rather like having a hot-air balloon and a pin. People have calculated the energy of the pin very accurately, but they've forgotten the balloon is going bang. This sequence may have played out several times in Earth's history. Notably, the largest of all mass extinctions 250 million years ago, at the Permian geological period and the beginning of the Triassic, coincided with the creation of lava flows known as the Siberian Traps, the largest of all of the volcanic eruptions. There are also intriguing but ambiguous hints of a meteor impact at the Permian-Triassic boundary. Two years ago, a group of scientists reported finding buckyballs - durable, soccer-ball-shaped carbon molecules - that contained helium and argon gases with un-Earthlike chemical signatures. The scientists said the buckyballs were molecular remnants of the meteor, but other researchers have been unable to verify the claim. Scientists have also found slightly elevated levels of iridium - an element common in meteors - in sediment layers dating to the Permian-Triassic boundary. While the evidence for a connection any single event is sparse, Dr. Dallas H. Abbott of Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory and Dr. Ann E. Isley of the State University of New York at Oswego say a compelling picture emerges when looked at over a longer view. They compiled evidence of meteor impacts and massive volcanic eruptions over most of Earth's history, dating back four billion years. Dr. Abbott and Dr. Isley, writing in Earth and Planetary Science Letters, report that their statistical analysis shows, with 97 percent confidence, that 9 of 10 periods of heavy meteor bombardment corresponded to periods of massive volcanism. Skeptics like Dr. H. Jay Melosh, a professor of planetary sciences at the University of Arizona, are utterly unconvinced. I know it's a fun idea, he said. I think that's why so many people have been advocating it. It makes a good discussion after beer. But if you start looking at the details and the real evidence for this, it really falls apart. The dates of the ancient meteor impacts and eruptions in Dr. Abbott's and Dr. Isley's analysis can only be roughly estimated, within tens of millions of years, and the results depend on how the statistical analysis is performed. Some people get correlations, and some people don't, Dr. Melosh said. Dr. Melosh also said that decompression melting cannot explain the Deccan Traps. While the meteor will punch deep into the Earth, the Earth will almost immediately rebound. There's a certain amount of willful misunderstanding here, he said. Further, he said, there is no evidence anywhere on Earth that meteor impact has ever caused a volcanic eruption. And scientists still do not have a convincing model of how an
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Propagation
Hello List, Bill Mason wrote; Hey, could we buy stock in your new enterprise? I'd be a voulenteerin as treasurer. Bill, I would love to have you as treasurer! And yes, List members can buy stock in this revolutionary new enterprise! The goal of this project is to make rare or hard to find meteorites available to all! This is not a cheap ordeal, the breeding stock is rare and not cheap! I have a small female Bensour and am looking for a large male. Any one wanting to donate a large male will get the pic of the first litter. Also, any one donating a rare breeding pair will get one out of every litter as long as the pair breeds. Donations can be sent to the Meteorite Fund. I will let you all know when the stocks can be bought. Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168, and meteorite breeder! - Original Message - From: Bill Mason III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Propagation I like the way this man thinksmore F___in meteorites. Hey, could we buy stock in your new enterprise? I'd be a voulenteerin as treasurer. Bill Mason - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Propagation Hello List, Because of the rather slow growth of my meteorite collection, I am going to attempt something that has not been tried before, Meteorite Propagation. I am going to use the same techniques used to bring the Peregrine Falcon back from the brink of extinction. The captive breeding of meteorites so far, has proved to be most challenging. Determining the sex of the meteorites seemed to be strait forward, The smaller cute specimens are the females. I have also determined that meteorite are cold blooded, so I adapted some reptilian breeding techniques for this project as well. Commonsense tells me meteorites are going to be egg layers as apposed to giving live births. I have made 2' X 4' breeding chambers that should be big enough to allow room for courtship displays. I have sand from NWA on the floor of the chambers to make them feel at home. I have used artificial lighting and temperature control so I can control the seasons. If Natural meteorite breeding does not happen I have made preparations for artificial insemination. Semen collection attempts from the male meteorites has not been achieved so far. (not from a lack of trying, I assure you!). I have a roll-X incubator set up for artificial incubation if the parent meteorites fail to incubate on their own. I have placed two SA's, a cute 6.540g female and a 17.5g male in one of the chambers. So far the results look most promising! The male has been courting the female almost none stop for the last week! The female has been most receptive! I have seen one failed attempt at breeding, but I think they will get it right soon. The first young produced are going to be retained for breeding. Using artificial insemination techniques, I am going to attempt making hybrids. After the first successful breeding I will be selling the young and any hybrids. I am looking for quality breeding stock to be donated to the project. In return you will receive the first born from your meteorite (if successful). I am taking requests for hybrid types. Put your orders in today You do not want to miss out on owning one of the first captive bred meteorites! Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new chondrites with flow lines
Dear All; Here is a very nice pictures of fine flow lines on this new chondrite: http://AlifYaa.com/meteorite/cnd2/index.html I appreciate any comments. Best Meteoritc Wishes Mohamed H. Yousef -- _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Subterranean Rumblings
Hang on to your hats...today they test the MOAB in Florida. This should tell whether the rumblings were what you felt. I suspect that the earlier rumblings were underground tests, maybe to get the timer or triggering mechanism working. Todays test is to be video tapedpossibly for the benefit of Iraq. You wouldn't want your 21,000 lb MOAB to not go boom during its screen test. Mark - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:32 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Subterranean Rumblings Readers of the list may recall reports a couple of months ago from several towns in Florida and South Carolina of earthquakes and mysterious, rolling ground waves. At the time, the US Air Force claimed that no craft had set off sonic booms (often done during training over the Gulf of Mexico). No earthquakes were registered on seismometers. It was just something else for the X-Files. I felt three of these rolling quakes here in Fort Myers that approached, rumbled under the house rattling the windows, then passed on. Strange, powerful and unexplainable. This morning's US Today newspaper has an item, dateline Eglin Air Force Base (Florida) - A new conventional bomb capable of releasing shock waves that can be felt miles away is scheduled to be tested at Eglin Air Force Base this week, officials said. The 21,000-pound bomb is known as a MOAB, or massive ordinance air burst. A bomb known as a Daisy Cutter, the 15,000-pound BLU-82, is currently billed as the world's most powerful non-nuclear explosive. Nah, couldn't be thisour Homeowner's Association would never allow it. Shaken, not stirred, Kevin Kichinka __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Favorite Ordinary Chorndrites
Hello Jeff, Very good and thought-provoking (i.e. good way to put off those pesky-things-needing-to-be-done-around- the-house-chores) question! And you are rightit's NOT that easy. Obviously, you'll get MANY different answers from the fellow members, as well it should be. I finally was able to narrow my answers down to a favorite five based on such criteria as external beauty, internal beauty, great name, the story behind it, the impact it made (no pun intended) and finally, personal significance, with some sharing two or more of these points. So here are my choices, in descending order: 5. VULCAN- What a great name. Fascinating. 4. ADAMANA - Gotta' love THAT shape! 3. HOLBROOK - A special thanks for giving so many members the chance to find their first meteorite. 2. CORREO- My first stone meteorite find. (And it was also the first find for a certain VERY WELL known other Robert). 1.PORTALES VALLEY- OK, OK. I'll admit I'm a bit prejudiced when it comes to PV, but one collector told me recently that he looks upon it as THE quinsintential American fall. A GREAT story, and SO beautiful and unique! What a day that was. Thanks again, Jeff. Sincerely, Robert Woolard __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] That's favorite Ordinary --- CHONDRITES ---
Sorry list, But in regard to my last post a few minutes ago: Whoops! How embarassing. I really can spell, I just can't tipe that gode. ;-) Robert Woolard __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Debate Over What Constitutes A Planet Is Far From Settled
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/02/26_planet.shtml Media Relations University of California-Berkeley Media Contacts: Robert Sanders (510) 643-6998, (510) 642-3734 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26 February 2003 An orb by any other name: Debate over what constitutes a planet is far from settled By Robert Sanders, Media Relations BERKELEY -- Ask any kid how many planets are in our solar system, and you'll get a firm answer: nine. But knock on a few doors in Berkeley's astronomy department, and you'll hear, amid the hemming and hawing, a whole range of numbers. Professor Gibor Basri, who plans soon to propose a formal definition of a planet to the international body that names astronomical objects, argues that there are at least 14 planets, and perhaps as many as 20. To the well-known list of nine he adds several large asteroids and more distant objects from the rocky swarm called the Kuiper Belt circling beyond the orbit of Neptune. Professor Imke de Pater and Assistant Professor Eugene Chiang, on the other hand, toss out Pluto without a backward glance. It's just a big rock, they say, a former member of the Kuiper Belt, puppy-dogging Neptune around the solar system. Not so fast, says Professor Alex Filippenko. The International Astronomical Union (IAU), which rules on names for astronomical bodies, has officially said that Pluto remains a planet, at least for the time being. Thus, officially, there are nine. He cavils a bit, however, making it clear to his students that Pluto is more fundamentally a Kuiper Belt Object (KBO), though an unusually large one. Professor Geoffrey Marcy and research astronomer Debra Fischer, both planet hunters within the department, also prefer to keep the number at nine, noting that the sun, though it probably had 12 or 14 planets in the past, will in five billion years probably lose Mercury and Pluto, bringing the count down to seven. Moons, fusors, brown dwarfs This difference of opinion within the astronomy department is part of a larger debate in the astronomical community over what constitutes a planet. It provides endless hours of beer-hall debate and Friday-afternoon tea-time chat, with little hope for resolution in the near future. It's something of an embarrassment that we currently have no definition of what a planet is, Basri said. People like to classify things. We live on a planet; it would be nice to know what that was. The IAU has sidestepped any formal definition, largely, Basri says, because a good definition would eject Pluto from the list and relegate it to a minor planet or, even worse, a comet. Basri has come up with a definition that keeps Pluto in the fold, but necessarily brings in other objects that until now have not been considered planets -- objects with names such as Vesta, Pallas and Ceres, now considered asteroids, or KBOs such as Varuna. He's now preparing a formal definition to put before the IAU Working Group on Extra-Solar Planets, and has posted an article on his Web site that lays out his definition and arguments as to why it should be adopted. By 10 years from now, I'd be a little surprised if the IAU had not adopted something along the lines I'm proposing, Basri said. It's reasonable. Most astronomers and the IAU agree that planets should be orbiting a star -- or more precisely, an object that is big enough to ignite hydrogen fusion in its core (what Basri calls a fusor). The IAU Working Group also excludes anything, like a star, that is big enough to manage core fusion itself. The consensus thus excludes moons, even those such as Ganymede, which is almost as large as Mars but which happens to be orbiting the planet Jupiter rather than a star. The definition also excludes failed stars called brown dwarfs, which are too small to be stars but too big to be planets. These are the subjects of Basri's research. In 1995, he was the first to obtain a spectrum confirming that brown dwarfs exist, and he has concentrated on tests that can distinguish brown dwarfs from low-mass stars. This work naturally led him to focus on mass as a way to distinguish between planets and non-planets. He proposes a natural upper limit for a planetary mass object of about 13 times the mass of Jupiter, or about 4,000 Earths. At this size, gravity will cause an object to give off heat, as happens with Jupiter, but the pressure at the core is a bit too cool to fuse the element easiest to fuse, deuterium or heavy hydrogen. Because anything bigger, including stars and brown dwarfs, is able to fuse deuterium, Basri argues that it makes sense to define a planetary mass object -- or planemo, as he has dubbed them -- as an object too small to achieve any fusion. A natural lower limit to the mass of a planemo, Basri says, would be a body large enough for self-gravity to squash it into a round shape. On average, that would be about 700 kilometers in diameter, though that number is squishy -- an iron wrecking ball like Mercury could be smaller and
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Your Favourite Ordinary Chondrite?
Hello all I would want ask to Yousef the listing of 6 chondrites preferred hahahahahhahaha ;-) bah Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Get together in Algonquin, Il
Greetings List, A brief report on the Algonquin Get Together 2003. In attendance were: Sir Rob Elliot and his beautiful wife Irene, Paul Sipiera (curator of the DuPont Collection and Antarctic meteorite hunter), Gregory Wilson (of List fame, and now feared secret CIA operative to the staff of the bar we were in), STEVE ARNOLD FROM CHICAGO, and of course me. I can't speak for everyone, but I think a good time was had by all. As last year, it was meteorites, food, drinks and lots of jawin'. Steve Arnold brought a big box of his rare micros as well as some other nice specimens. Gregory had more lunar material than I've ever seen in person. Of course, I don't have a chance to hang out with the big dogs much. Rob had a mouth watering selection of Kilabo. Some really fabulous specimens of this beautiful LL6. We also got a preview of Rob's new 2004 calendar. If you're a healthy male who likes meteorites, you WILL want a copy of this calendar!! Check it out on Rob's website. I've posted a few pictures of the event as well as the meteorites I managed to scrounge while I was there. I've included a close up picture of the Kilabo that I got from Steve. This was a fragment that I ground a face onto. I think it turned out fantastic! (By the way (Rob and Gregory), it took all of five minutes to grind and polish the piece by hand, and the loss was only about 3.5 grams). I assume Rob will have some Kilabo available soon, but please don't hold me to that. I hope some of the others will chime in on their experience there. There are already plans to do it again. To those that couldn't make it, don't miss the next one!! Take care, Steve Images at: http://photos.msn.com/viewing/album.aspx?m7A!X9U3q6bynoZEhFj0U1kb*tYqGSlDTz5h2Kut0cNs9nYBxY!KHNp0Die3NUV6pkGX!gWMNjY2zrPukojQICpFw8MrGsE3JsZma1LoemHelmZxBkPtVg$$ (watch the wrap) = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, Meteorite Hits Man, Nininger
Hi Mark, Any idea what fall this was? curious Michael on 3/10/03 10:26 PM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title: Indiana Evening Gazette City: Indiana, Pa Date: Thursday, December 31, 1953 Page: 4 Meteorite Hits Man's Tin Hat BOSTON (AP) - Meteorites bean someone on earth only once every 350 years on the average - and now it looks as though one has struck a guy who was waring a tin hat! This indication of how times are getting over toughter for meteorites came out in a talk before the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science, whose 120th meeting ends today. Dr. H. H. Nininger of the American Meteorite Museum, Sedona, Ariz., reported that a tiny object having all the external earmarks of a meteorite had struck a construction working on his tin hat: after first richocheting off a drilling rig. At least, said Nininger, that's what the man told him had happened. The beaning happened several years ago but Nininger made it public today. The incident apparently marked a lucky day for Ninger too because he tested the object in his laboratory - and he says he feels not only that it is an honest-too-goodness meteorite, but that it's something pretty special in that line. Meteorites, believed to be fragments of an exploded planet or possibly two colliding ones, exist in the millions and are of all sizes - but only a few ever reach the earth and still fewer are recovered. Some 24 million a day are consumed in the atmosphere. In case you're worried about getting hit, Dr. Fred L. Whipple of Harvard, a regular fireball on the subject of meteorites told a reporter: Meteorites that reach the earth are mostly very small - some as small as dust particles - bit a couple have hit the earth that were big as apartment houses. Fortunately all the large ones have fallen in uninhabitated places. Only one person out of all the people on earth is struck by a meteorite, every 350 years on the average. There's one unconfirmed report that a monk was killed by one back in the 15th century. Injuries, when they have occurred, have been slight. Here's the reason Dr. Nininger was so happy about the object he studied: (Mark Bostick Note: Article apparently ends and does not continue the rest of the story, perhaps the last line was meant to be earlier in the article). www.MeteoriteArticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list What luck for rulers that men do not think. Adolf Hitler -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Get together in Algonquin, Il
Hi Steve all, Steve, didn't you know Gregory Wilson IS CIA? Michael on 3/11/03 10:08 AM, Steve Witt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photos.msn.com/viewing/album.aspx?m7A!X9U3q6bynoZEhFj0U1kb*tYqGSlDTz5h2 Kut0cNs9nYBxY!KHNp0Die3NUV6pkGX!gWMNjY2zrPukojQICpFw8MrGsE3JsZma1LoemHelmZxBkP tVg$$ What luck for rulers that men do not think. Adolf Hitler -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Your Favourite Ordinary Chondrite?
Greetings everyone. First I`m depressed that I missed the get together in Chicago Sunday evening! :( I had to work late. Second. Here is a list of my favorite ordinary chondrites in my collection. Sorry, but I just had to list 6. 1) Vyatka H4/5 550 gram full slice. 2) Naiman L6 58.25 gram full slice. 3) Kunashak L6 66.06 gram partslice. 4) NWA 061 LL4 8.00 gram partslice. 5) Bensour LL6 79.61 gram oriented indivivdual. 6) My new and really cool... Thuathe H4 163.56 gram individual. Have a great day! Dave G'day List, Today I got to thinking how most of the 'Prestige' in meteorites generally goes to the Achondrites, Pallasites etc. The good lookers! ;-) So I thought I would throw this out to everyone and ask what your favourite Ordinary Chondrite is because there are some really amazing meteorites which this classification. It doesn't matter what your reason is. It may be that it's just a really attractive piece or possibly the story behind how it was found or fell. If everyone gets into the spirit of it, I'll tally up all the answers in a week or so and let everyone know the Top Picks! We may find some surprising results! You can give up to 5 favourites and I'll start with these picks: 1) Knyachinya (L/LL5) - Birthday meteorite with great fresh crust and a really nice colourful brecciated matrix. 2) Parnallee (LL3.6) - Put simply: Rare, Old and Awesome matrix. 3) NWA 965 (LL4) - Tiny TKW with a matrix choc full of multi-coloured crisp chondrules. 4) Richfield (LL3.7) - If you haven't seen a larger piece or a good photo of one; time to change that! 5) Bensour (LL6) - As fresh dramatic as it gets. Whitish matrix with jet black fusion crust! Too cool! Looking forward to hearing some responses, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteoritesaustralia.com (P.S. It's not as easy as you think!) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] * Campo of the Week * (ad)
I only have 4 more New Campo del Cielo meteorites to sell. They will be auctioned over the next month or so with no reserve. (17 - 40 lbs each) This week's New Campo is 17 + pounds (~ 8 kg) with a nice shape and structure and currently at less than 3 cents per gram. 4 pictures of the Campo and 10 other meteorite auctions including a 22 gram Imilac slice currently at 4.60 per gram. Ending in less than 36 hours at: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoriteusa.com/ Thanks for the bids, John Sinclair __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NP Article, Meteorite Hits Man, Nininger
Curious Michael Lee Blood inquired :-) Any idea what fall this was? H. Nininger: tested the object in his laboratory - and he says he feels not only that it is an honest-too-goodness meteorite, but that it's something pretty s p e c i a l in that line. The only special something near the date when the newspaper article was written (Thursday, December 31, 1953) would be the Garland diogenite (UTAH), which fell in the summer of 1950. One stone of 102 gr was recovered according to the information given in the Catalogue of Meteorites. Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: NP Article, Meteorite Hits Man, Nininger
But there is NO reference to it hitting a person, or the like, right? Michael on 3/11/03 11:35 AM, Bernd Pauli HD at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious Michael Lee Blood inquired :-) Any idea what fall this was? H. Nininger: tested the object in his laboratory - and he says he feels not only that it is an honest-too-goodness meteorite, but that it's something pretty s p e c i a l in that line. The only special something near the date when the newspaper article was written (Thursday, December 31, 1953) would be the Garland diogenite (UTAH), which fell in the summer of 1950. One stone of 102 gr was recovered according to the information given in the Catalogue of Meteorites. Bernd What luck for rulers that men do not think. Adolf Hitler -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: NP Article, Meteorite Hits Man, Nininger
Hello Bernd, Michael and list, Michael further asked. But there is NO reference to it hitting a person, or the like, right? Michael I do not believe so. I could not find anything in my database, the Meteorite Catalog or Meteorites A to Z. Of course Bernd's database is probley much larger and while he might have something, I would assume the fall did not happen. Which makes me ask something I have wondered in a while. Does anyone know if Nininger's brass meteorite ever turned out to be a meteorite or a meteor-wrong? Thanks, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.MeteoriteArticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Debate Over What Constitutes A Planet Is Far From Settled
I thought some might like this. Others, delete. Francis Graham PLUTO TO EARTH Have you heard the news from Earth? Asked the Plutonians gathered by the Hearth (For although they were used to the cryogenic A little heat was loved; and made them phrenetic Increasing their thoughts; yes, near perihelion The best of sages could count to a billion.) The scoundrels on that blue dot near the Sun Count eight planets now, and we're not one! Another Plutonian retorted, It must be the glare, Of the Sun that maddens them. It's not fair! To pronounce this judgment is mere sophistry When I doubt they even know our geography. And what of our atmosphere, whose pressure is felt, Is that like an asteroid of the Kuiper belt? And our moon, said another,Who's tidally locked; If we're not a planet, why's not Mercury defrocked? In lieu of this, cried another, Let the planets begin With Jupiter; and those rocks further in Are the Sun's satellites; to be pedantic The Earth's a double moon--how's that for semantic!? Yet one more Plutonian, of a psychological bent Said, Consider where Earth's spacecraft were sent. To all orbs but ours. But in their spacefaring nations The rulers defunded planetary explorations. So like Aesop's fable, 'The Grapes and the Fox' What man cannot conquer, he demotes and mocks! And so the wise subzero Plutonians agreed Their lower status was from a cold human need To conquer all; failing that, what is left Is from what is worthy to conquer cleft. No doubt if Pluto had an American probe Visiting; each Congressional ear lobe Would be told the expensive spacecraft hurled To a major planet, not some trivial world. Said one more Plutonian, twice as cynical, Thus even planetology has gotten political. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, Meteorite Hits Man, Nininger
Mark and Michael, I am curious as well. I don't remember Nininger mentioning this in any published work (not that I have read them all, mind you). -Walter - www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, Meteorite Hits Man, Nininger Hi Mark, Any idea what fall this was? curious Michael on 3/10/03 10:26 PM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title: Indiana Evening Gazette City: Indiana, Pa Date: Thursday, December 31, 1953 Page: 4 Meteorite Hits Man's Tin Hat BOSTON (AP) - Meteorites bean someone on earth only once every 350 years on the average - and now it looks as though one has struck a guy who was waring a tin hat! This indication of how times are getting over toughter for meteorites came out in a talk before the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science, whose 120th meeting ends today. Dr. H. H. Nininger of the American Meteorite Museum, Sedona, Ariz., reported that a tiny object having all the external earmarks of a meteorite had struck a construction working on his tin hat: after first richocheting off a drilling rig. At least, said Nininger, that's what the man told him had happened. The beaning happened several years ago but Nininger made it public today. The incident apparently marked a lucky day for Ninger too because he tested the object in his laboratory - and he says he feels not only that it is an honest-too-goodness meteorite, but that it's something pretty special in that line. Meteorites, believed to be fragments of an exploded planet or possibly two colliding ones, exist in the millions and are of all sizes - but only a few ever reach the earth and still fewer are recovered. Some 24 million a day are consumed in the atmosphere. In case you're worried about getting hit, Dr. Fred L. Whipple of Harvard, a regular fireball on the subject of meteorites told a reporter: Meteorites that reach the earth are mostly very small - some as small as dust particles - bit a couple have hit the earth that were big as apartment houses. Fortunately all the large ones have fallen in uninhabitated places. Only one person out of all the people on earth is struck by a meteorite, every 350 years on the average. There's one unconfirmed report that a monk was killed by one back in the 15th century. Injuries, when they have occurred, have been slight. Here's the reason Dr. Nininger was so happy about the object he studied: (Mark Bostick Note: Article apparently ends and does not continue the rest of the story, perhaps the last line was meant to be earlier in the article). www.MeteoriteArticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list What luck for rulers that men do not think. Adolf Hitler -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 9 rare russian meteorites
Hi all. I decided to put up my 9 rare russian micro's for trade.They have a $500 value.If anyone is interested let me know.I am looking for a piece of either estherville or portales valley.I still do not have either piece. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re:[meteorite-list]question
Question 1. How do the dealers get that great polish on the L 6 stones they sell. I take my slices and go up through 600 and maybe 800 then still don't get that great finish. Is it diamond Question 2. I've been making up some thin sections. Using the lapon a facetor. Does pretty good job. Several have come out great on the polarized microscope. But the glues that you use on the slide. Super glue is not so good. Opticon is best so far, any ideas. Haven't posted in a long time, Bob Jackson, Riverside.
[meteorite-list] Really poor taste fake pictures of shuttle
Dear List members; There are now some really poor taste pictures of the space shuttle floating around the internet now days. Some of my well meaning but basically ignorant friends sent a set of eight to me. Full color close ups of the shuttle break up are very very poor taste. Anyone wanting to investigate where they came from please contact me off list. Dave Freeman __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Photos - Continued
Dear Listees and Fellow Meteorite Photo Fans: Here is another in my occasional series of original meteorite photographs, for those who are interested in such things. We've decided that after a couple of drinks this one looks like a wolf: http://www.notkin.net/meteorites/wolf-sikhote.htm Thanks to Geoff Cintron for lending me this great holey individual to photograph. Regards to all, Geoff N. www.paleozoic.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Schoner
Thank You --Matteo !! It humbles me greatly thinking about what Steve's going through. I heard the doctor say to my parents: I just want to give you a warning... Do not get your hopes up too high, for a person in Steve's condition usually does not come back. And if so, they are quite disabled after... Thank You Again -Matteo, Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Hello all This is a email Steve have sent to me few days ago: To all, I would like to thank all of you that sent me kind letters of encouragement while I was in the hospital for over a month. I am recovering. It is hard to say where I will be a in the months ahead. My language skills are good, but there are areas of my brain that are not so well. Hard to say what I was like before this happened, but I do know that there areas that I will have to focus on to come back fully. It will be a long period of rehab. It is amazing what a month in the hospital can do to ones muscles. Anyway-- here is what happened. I fell ill in in the early part of Jan. I was ill for two days, and getting worse by the moment. Then on the first day of the illness one of the plant lights came on, and I wanted to turn it off. I got up to do so, and I noticed that my right side was going limp, but still not completely gone. Then when I got to the light, I found that I could not turn off the light. It was as if I could not figure it out-- Shutting a light down. It did not make sense. But there it was... I could not figure it out. I knew then that something was very, very wrong with me. Yet I could not express what it was. I was quickly losing my ability to speak. I slept through the night, and into the next day, and my wife was wondering what was wrong with me. After seeing me, she decided that it would be best to take me to the hospital...which she did. It was there that the real nightmare began... The condition was rapidly getting worse and I was beginning to lose consciousness. I went through two MRI's then the lights went out as I went into a coma. A very strange thing happened at that point. I saw a number of very strange things. I could see my brain being worked on by someone with medical tools of some kind. I tried to turn my direction to the sound to see who they were but they vanished. Then, a most amazing thing happened... I saw my folks, my father, brother, wife and a doctor in the room together. Now, what makes this so strange is that I wear very thick glasses, so thick that I cannot see with out them. Now, even though I was in a coma, unable to see, and not having my glasses at the hospital, I saw them clearly, better than I have ever seen them before. I heard the doctor say to my parents: I just want to give you a warning... Do not get your hopes up too high, for a person in Steve's condition usually does not come back. And if so, they are quite disabled after... I heard this clearly, and wondered about it, for at the time, I seemed okay. And I also had a religious experience too, a NDE... very profound and very intense. What did I have? ADEM (Acute Dessemminating Encypalo-Mylitus), a very rare disease that has since first discovered in 1941 affecting about 1500 people world wide. No one knows what cases it, and there is no cure. It just happens and those so affected usually wind up as vegitalbles or dead... very, very few survive retaining all of their functions. My prognosis did not look good, for the ones that did survive were usually 5 to 7. With just a few in my 52 year age group. (In fact, I think that I am the oldest survivor, but I will have to look it up). I survived it... Coming out of the coma after 5 days, and not knowing where I was or what was going on around me. My right side was gone, could not use it. And my left brain was in limbo, not able to comprehend where I was. It did not look good. But I tried to grasp where I was, and it soon became evident that I was in a hospital, with nurses around me, and that somehow, I was there because something had happened to me. My right side was limp and gone, and I knew that this was the reason. And I also knew from the weird focus of my left brain that the world was different than what I had experienced. And as I probed my thought processes things began to come back. But I could not talk until 15 days after, and only in very broken sentences. Eventually, my linguistic skills are very good, but my math, and other math related skills are pretty much gone. And my right side is back, but it feels somewhat strange as at times it does not feel like it belongs to me. I also found that the doctors had cut a 5.5 inch hole in my head to get a portion of my brain for analysis, which of course they then sewed up. I suspect that much of my problems might be due to this, but under the conditions that I was in, the doctors had no choice... They had to know... nothing was found... which is typical of ADEM Where am I now... I am coming
Re: [meteorite-list] Re:[meteorite-list]question
Hi Bob, Question 1. How do the dealers get that great polish on the L 6 stones they sell. Short answer: Many dealers buy them that way :-) Long answer: Don't know how others do it, but I use this polisher http://www.kingsleynorth.com/allyouneed.html I rarely go above 600. Make sure you do not re-use the old coolant when you go up to the next higher polish and make sure you polish out any saw marks before you go up. I have seen some really bad work by people who did not follow at least these two rules- of-thumb. If you have a problem with a sloping or "dipping" surface, perhaps from a poor cut-job, you have to level the surface first, with a low number polish (like that 180 mech diamond) I havehalf-stones of several meteorites includingGao and NWA 869 which look really nice when polished to about 600. Not just L6s but many stones look nice when thepolish is done right. Millbillillie looks very nice with a smooth polish. (yes folks,I know some stones do not look nice with a high polish) Question 2. I've been making up some thin sections. Sorry, can't help with this one. I have never made a thin section. -Walter -www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: robert jackson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re:[meteorite-list]question Question 1. How do the dealers get that great polish on the L 6 stones they sell. I take my slices and go up through 600 and maybe 800 then still don't get that great finish. Is it diamond Question 2. I've been making up some thin sections. Using the lapon a facetor. Does pretty good job. Several have come out great on the polarized microscope. But the glues that you use on the slide. Super glue is not so good. Opticon is best so far, any ideas. Haven't posted in a long time, Bob Jackson, Riverside.
[meteorite-list] New Stock! (AD)
Hello everybody, I have just updated my site and added quite a few of the pretty pieces I brought back from Tucson. The "Meteorites" and "Impact Glass" pages have been completely re-done. Please Enjoy! http://www.impactika.com/meteorites-frame.html http://www.impactika.com/impactglass-frame.html One important fact regarding the Libyan Glass: The western end of Egypt along the Libyan border has been closed and patrolled by the military since last summer. Visitors are not welcome. This means that it is now impossible to go collect more Libyan Glass (and fulgurites). Alain Carion has a pretty nice "reserve", and that is where those new pieces come from. Let's hope that he has enough of a reserve, and that things will cool down pretty soon in that part of the world. Let me know if you have any questions. Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] Re:[meteorite-list]thanks
Thanks to Mark and Walter for the info on polishing meteorites and thin section glue technology. Bob Jackson
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 12-1954 Meteorite Hits Women (Really..:-)
Title: Council Bluffs Nonpareil City: Council Bluffs, Iowa Date: Wendnesday, December 22, 1954 Page: 1 A Legal Battle Over Meteorite Rough-Edged Rock May Bring $5,000 STLACAUGA, Ala. AP - Twenty-two days ago Mrs. Hulitt Hodges, a plump, pleasant-faced matron of 31, lay down to take a little nap. There was a thunderous crash. She felt a violent blow on her left arm and hip. Sunlight shone through a hole in the ceiling. A rough-edge black rock lay near her. She had been struck by a fragment of a shooting star which had hurtled to the earth from outer space. Scientists said she was the first person in recorded history known to be hit by a meteorite. She still has to spend the part of each day in bed because of the severe bruises she suffered. She has nightmares, in which it seems like I hear the sound. Landlady Files Suit She and her husband moved out of their comfortable frame residence to a smaller house after her landlady Mrs. Birdie Guy filed suit for the meteorite, for which more than $5,000 has been offered. Mrs. Guy's lawyer said the Supreme Court has held that a meteorite belongs to the owner of the property on which it falls. The meteorite is personal property, argues Atty. Huel M. Love for Mrs. Hodges. It didn't come to rest on Mrs. Guy's property - it came to rest on Mrs. Hodges. Both the Smithsonian Institution and Alabama State Museum at the University of Alabama want the fragment, but the Smithsonian says the meteorite itself isn't worth $500. Mrs. Hodges says, I think God intended it for me. After all, it hit me. The meteorite is in care of her lawyer now. www.MeteoriteArticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Petrologic types
Ho . sorry typing error .. Hi I have been thinking - not that I do that very often - What does the petrologic type 3.8 mean ? I understand the types 3-4-5-6 but when it comes to the decimals I fall off. Can anyone enlighten me ? (or how it is spelled) I just bought a NWA 987 L3.8 so I want to know more about it. Regards Lars
