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Re: [meteorite-list] Matt's SPADE impact melt breccia
Bernd: got my thin L'Aigle slice today that I had bid on on EBay. Wow, how happyI am about this little L6 - "only" an L6, but the "history-laden" L'Aigle chondrite,that, along with Barbotan, convinced the last conservative bunch of enlightenedscientists, that stones do fall from the skies. I love this little gem !!! Gee, Bernd - not so long ago you gently scolded me on the list, about placing ANY significance whatsoever on the "story" of a meteorite (we were discussing Park Forest). You told me that you would tend to side with the more European-view, which attaches significance to the classification of a meteorite, but little or no significance to anything else. You even insisted that you wouldn't value a rock that fell on your birthday in your yard any more than another meteorite of the same specific classification, that might have been anonymously found on an unknown date in an unknown desert locale . So, isn't the above post somewhat of a departure from that position? So, I guess L'Aigle's story makes it NOT "just another L6"! And to a lot of us, Park Forest isn't "just another L5", which is what I was saying before. Certainly not equating PF and L'Aigle, but at least we agree that the "story" can contribute to the appeal. Welcome to the club! ;-) Gregory
[meteorite-list] OT - FW: meteor detection in AM SW band
- Forward Message Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:38:46 +0200 From: "ht s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) meteor detection in AM SW band ASART(more info:www.asartonline.org or Meteor Related Links at meteorobs.org) is also trying to use FM bands but as we couldn't find a free band, still working on... Any help is really needed, especially from East... H. Tugca SENER ANKARA-TURKIYE PS: There were really good seminars at 23.08.03. Many thanks meteorobs, especially Marco Langbroek, George Zay, Kim Y. and Peter Jenniskens... - - Original Message - DATE: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:47:16 From: "drobnock2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: >Hi: >I remember seeing an article that discussed scatter in the 10 and 11 meter band using AM modulation. If I remember my propagation theory and it's relation to radio astronomy, the 10 meter band is at the threshold for radio astronomy. > >George John Drobnock > >--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcelo Kaczmarech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >> Please, somebody know some thing about forward meteor scatter >> detection using AM radio band or short wave band? >> I hear about this in the Web but >> I don't found more details.I have sucessfully detected meteors in >> VHF band, but the signals are weak and at low hourly rate. >> Thanks! >> >> Marcelo >> -- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:07:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Miguel Angel EA4EOZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) meteor detection in AM SW band I made some experiments on 10m band using ham beacons, like DL0IGI and DK0TEN, and the results were very poor, mainly because the extremally low signals (FFT soft a must). It's much better around 50 MHz with the KW TV stations :-) Greetings! -- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:01:09 - From: "drobnock2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) meteor detection in AM SW band Hi: See -- C. R. Kitchen, "Astrophysical Techniques," Adam Hilger, Ltd., 1984 revised 1991. Kitchen makes the statement that in radio astronomy - scatter radio is within this astronomy - the sky is transparent for electromagnetic radio between 10mm and 10 meters (microwave to 25 mHz). He further states that electromagnetic radiation greater than 50 meters (transmitted from earth) fails to penetrate the atmosphere and is reflected back into the atmosphere. The 10 and 11 meter bands are on the threshold of frequencies to be reflected from an ionization trail. It is a chalange to see how many stations can be received. George John Drobnock -- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:51:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Linnolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) meteor detection in AM SW band These statements regarding the transparency of our atmosphere to RF are a substantial oversimplification, and hence not really accurate. The transparency of our atmosphere (actually the ionospheric layer) to vertically incident waves is given by the parameter fc (critical frequency). Frequencies above fc penetrate through to space, while those below are reflected back to earth. fc varies tremendously with time of day, geographical location, season, 27-day and 11-year solar cycle. It can be as high as 50-60Mhz (6 meters) during daytime 11-year solar maximum, and as low as 1 Mhz (300 meters) during night at solar minimum. In addition, the transparency is a function of angle of incidence, which along with fc, determines the MUF (maximum usable frequency) for HF radio transmissions. MUF more closely tracks the frequencies of interest for any meteor scatter work, since it deals with propagation at the typical low incidence angles for terrestrial signals. MUF varies from a high of around 70Mhz to a low around 2-3Mhz. The science of ionospheric radio wave propagation is complex, with sophisticated models and software available to track these parameters and frequencies, in near real time. Anyone interested in using these range of frequencies for meteor scatter should be aware of these issues, and not rely solely on oversimplified and generalized statements as presented here by CR Kitchen. Mike Linnolt -- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:22:23 - From: "drobnock2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) meteor detection in AM SW band Hi: You are correct about the complexity of electromagnetic propagation, and there are may many texts and papers written about the propagation of radio signatures and computer programs to determine MUF. But I believe in the "keep it simple." If an individual is interested in experimenting, start with the simplist of tools and basic of readings. Who was it that said "to enjoy meteors, all you need are your eyes ?" George John Drobnock -- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:22:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Linnolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (meteorobs) meteor detection in
[meteorite-list] Mars Meteorites on MTV
http://www.mtv.com/onair/tomgreen/new_tom_green/poll/ If you would like to see the LA 002 meteorite appear on MTV's "The New Tom Green Show", you can go to the above web page and vote! You will be polled as to: Where should Tom's co-host Glenn sleep Wednesday night? "X" Watching Mars with Dr. Franklin Ruehl and a geologist [I guess that would be me], alongside two Martian meteorites in his backyard. "X" Watching Mars with Dr. Franklin Ruehl from the deck of a fishing boat. "X" Watching Mars through a telescope with Dr. Franklin Ruehl in the desert. My apologies to those List members that are unable to view MTV. (But then, there are some people who would say that not being able to view MTV doesn't require an apology. Even more people might say that I should really be apologizing for subjecting Mars meteorites to MTV and the Tom Green Show! ;-) Bob V. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recent significant larger US finds
Mike and others, Mike, thanx for the response to my inquiry. There maybe a couple more we are not thinking of, but I believe this demonstrates how difficult it is to find larger pieces like the Spade piece in the states. I realize there have been more than several smaller finds(especially in Arizona and California) during this time...but for the most part, finding any meteorites unrelated to known falls is down right difficult, even when someone is trying really hard. I'll keep looking at old stone fence rows, etc. here in the east because you never know. Also as others have stated lately...good old fashioned education seminars and sharing with the public can flush them out on occasion, just like Nininger did in the last century. In the last two years I had two encounters with people who claimed to have had meteorites passed down to them that I took a look at. One was a big old iron rock (magnetite granitic gneiss I suppose), and the other was a "definite iron" that turned out to be a nice chunk of galena. Don't give up folks...there are probably many meteorites to be found out there. Still looking, John > I recovered the Tinnie Iron meteorite, and the 8 > kilogram Roosevelt County 102 meteorite during the > Portales Valley fall in 1998. Of course both from > other finders. > Mike Farmer > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Rob and others, > > > > I don't know the full story of the 87 kg Wagon > > Wound. According to the A to Z > > book it was found in 1932. My poorly stated question > > was meant to be, "what > > are some of the recent finds (let's say the last 15 > > years) in the US that a > > few kilos became available to the public for sale?". > > I was reminded of Hope > > Creek a LL6 from Alaska in 1998 and Felt(b) a L3.5 > > from Oklahoma in 1990. > > > > And of of course we have Gold Basin identified in > > 1995, a L5 from Arizona. > > > > If the list is about that short for bigger finds > > then again I believe the > > Spade find to be significant for us in the states. > > > > John > > > > > I would call Wagon Mound significant. > > > -- > > > Rob Wesel > > > -- > > > We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers > > of the dreams. > > > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Matt Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-SPADE slices for > > sale > > > > > > > > > > List members and Matt, > > > > > > > > The Spade meteorite looks and reads like a very > > special find. > > > Congratulations > > > > to Matt for being the one to get involved with > > this new find. I was > > > wondering > > > > what meteorite was the last significant find in > > the US that was shared > > > with > > > > the public like this one...with a couple kilos > > (+3 kg) available for > > > > purchase? Just curious...I can't recall one in > > the last 4 or 5 years that > > > > I've been involved...except maybe Gold Basin of > > course. > > > > > > > > For me it(Spade) being an IMB is extra exciting > > because I find the impact > > > > melt breccias to be very unique materials. As I > > said to Matt, this type of > > > > material reminds of glass when looking at its' > > broken edges. The metal > > > > quantity looks extreme for the Spade > > material...even for an H. > > > > > > > > I also found the article on shock metamorphism > > by Dr. Rubin to be very > > > > interesting. Occurrences of S5, annealed back to > > S2, and then shocked > > > again > > > > to S4, etc. for one example makes me wonder if > > some of the changes in > > > > petrologic levels actually occurs during these > > extreme shock and melt > > > > processes? > > > > > > > > Random thoughts as usual, > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Listees: > > > > > Here is my offering of this new beauty. > > Funny... we purchased the Spade > > > > > meteorite from the finder the day AFTER the > > Park Forest fall (which is > > > why I > > > > > wasn't at the PF fall site). > > > > > > > > > > The slices listed below are priced at ~5.00/g, > > on the low end of the > > > impact melt > > > > > price range so you can get a bigger piece for > > the $$$: > > > > > > > > > > 614 gram end piece $3000.00. A really > > spectacular piece and the largest > > > > > available outside the main mass. Fully crusted > > back side, except where a > > > sample > > > > > was removed for analysis, and thin for an end > > piece. 14cm X 15cm X 1cm. > > > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/614-end.jpg > > > > > > > > > > 261 gram complete slice (except where sample > > was removed for analysis). > > > 12.5cm > > > > > X 14cm X 4mm > > > > > $1305.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/261.jpg > > > > > > > > > > 256 gram complete slice (except where sample > > was removed for analys
[meteorite-list] Elma material - the "problem" if it ISN'T a meteorite
Still asking: Is this material a meteorite, or is it not? If it turns out that this material is NOT meteorite-related, then why have us all hold our breath? Why build up anticipation and risk a greater disappointment by announcing it later? If THIS is NOT a meteorite, this won't be so much of a "problem", because we have discussions about meteor-wrongs on this List all the time. But allow me to explain why the mention of "getting this meteor-wrong classified" has raised some people's ire. There are some of us who have been waiting a very long time for classifications for real meteorite finds that we have turned in to various institutions. In my case, some of my specimens have been waiting over two years! Even the thought that I might be waiting another month or so for my classifications, because of the possibility that these meteor-wrongs are holding it up, doesn't sit well with me. Some others have been more vocal about this. You may ask, "If you've been waiting this long, what's a few more months?" Well, here is an example why. It turns out that my Mud Dry Lake meteorite was finally classified as being a H3.8 - but that important piece of information was held back from me "until everyone else's classifications were completed", so as not to displease any meteorite dealers. The consequence of this delay was that I had to write last months MeteoriteTimes.com article based on the preliminary estimate of it being L4. That's what the difference of a month or two meant to me. But GET THIS! No one has done anything "wrong" here. In fact, everyone has been trying to do the "right thing". I'm certainly not pointing fingers; I'm just explaining the "facts of life" as they exist today. But the point of all of this is that it all of these present "problems" derive from one, singular action/decision that occurred about 2 years ago... ... and you've heard me say this before: Quote - But, in just the past two years, during my attempts to get meteorites classified, I've seen a number of problems arising. And I point to NASA's withdrawal of funds for the classifying of non-Antarctic meteorites (and the docile acceptance of this situation by meteoriticists) as the single source for all of these "problems". - Unquote Bob V. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Daylight fireball
- Forward Message To: "meteorobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Ed Majden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:53:01 -0700 Subject: [Bolide_Chasers] Fw: Daylight fireball A daylight fireball was observed on 2003 August 24 around 15:22 P.D.T. from Washington State and southern British Columbia. Observers of this fireball are asked to contact me. I am the coordinator of the West Coast Sandia Bolide Detection Network and am collecting reports on this fireball. Thank you for your help. Ed Majden - MIAC Associate Meteorites and Impacts Advisory Committee to the Canada Space Agency West Coast Sandia Bolide Detection Network Coordinator Courtenay, B.C. CANADA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] sales
Please, please, all of us should and must re-read the stipulations under which you and I were accepted as a Meteorite List member. Check the part which states: "Please do not list sales or flames on the list". The Meteorite List is for information exchange and NOT for verbal fisticuffs and listing of sales. I returned home from a three week trip and found 979 messages. In addition to the usual prescription and porno messages, the other 950 or so were about 20% list bickering and 20% sales promos. Please take those elsewhere! My delete finger is getting worn out. Larry Johnson IMCA #6116 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Elma status
Right off the top, I don't think anyone needs to get defensive about this subject. I'm hoping this whole matter will soon end on a very positive note. Keep in mind that I'm "pulling" for you guys up there in US Northwest, and that I've always been supportive of ALL of your research efforts. The Elma matter isn't a "problem" in itself, as much as I see it being a window into other areas that are of a concern. For now, forget about the details of these concerns. Look at the big picture. What I'm going to attempt to show, in due time, is that there is a common underlying source for most of the problems we face in meteoritics. From the top to the bottom. From the science growing faster than the ranks can be filled, down to the petty bickering and back-biting among our members. And I point to NASA's withdrawal of funds for the classifying of non-Antarctic meteorites (and the docile acceptance of this situation by meteoriticists) as the single source for all of our "problems". Bob V. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Matt's SPADE impact melt breccia
Hi John and List, > The Spade meteorite looks and reads like a very special find. It surely does! S2; W2; annealed imb; silicate darkening; chromite veinlets; martensite; ... .. just to mention a few of its peculiarities! My specimen is on its way across the "Big Pond". > Congratulations to Matt ... I concur! > For me Spade being an IMB is extra exciting because I > find the impact melt breccias to be very unique materials ... Right! Just think of Abee, Cat Mountain, Chico, Portales Valley, Rose City, Shaw, Smyer, etc. > The metal quantity looks extreme for the Spade material Looks almost like a high-metal E chondrite, doesn't it? > I also found the article on shock metamorphism by Dr. Rubin to be very > interesting. Occurrences of S5, annealed back to S2, and then shocked > again to S4, etc. ... So did I. Maybe meteoriticists will have to reconsider some of their shock level assumptions if Rubin is right! I got my thin L'Aigle slice today that I had bid on on EBay. Wow, how happy I am about this little L6 - "only" an L6, but the "history-laden" L'Aigle chondrite, that, along with Barbotan, convinced the last conservative bunch of enlightened scientists, that stones do fall from the skies. I love this little gem !!! Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] How s(low) can it get...
Hi John and others, So "it is also called the Venus stone..."? Which part of her anatomy does it represent? One of her breasts or...something else? Perhaps with a bit of luck someone might find Venus (de Milo) missing arms too? Unless some darned dog, (a cousin of the Nahkla dog?) from the island of Milo (or Melos) found them first! José - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] How s(low) can it get... > Ron, Steve and others, > > Things really are at a snails pace on the list these days...so slow that I > thought I would pass on my meteorite revelation for the day. > > Looking at my "Meteorite Calendar" for August, it dawned on me today that the > Adamana oriented meteorite owned by Robert Haag should be renamed the Madonna > meteorite. ;<) It is also called the Venus stone...h > > www.meteorman.org/Adamana.htm > > John > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Elma material - the "problem" if it IS a meteorite
Question #1: Is this material a meteorite, or is it not? And the corollary questions: Why is it so hard to decide whether it is a meteorite, or not? and What is it specifically that makes anyone think that this material is meteoritic-related? If it turns out that this material is meteorite-related, then kudos are certainly in order for all those involved in its identification, and specifically to the Hupes for being able to convince the researchers to take a second look at this stuff. Seriously, if I were to go to a university dragging in some "material" that looked like this and suggest that they should analyze it, I would be laughed at, and if I insisted, I could count on being ridiculed. If THIS is a meteorite, then I find this very problematic, because so many meteor-wrongs look just like this material. And every finder of a piece of vesicular slag that thinks it is a meteorite, will point to this Elma material and say, "Well it looks just like that material, and ITS a meteorite!" When "anything" can be a meteorite, identification of meteor-wrongs will be impossible. When trying to identify whether a specimen is a meteor-wrong or a meteorite, by visual means, it will become impossible to convince the finder that he has a meteor-wrong. I should look at the bright-side. This will free up a lot of bandwidth on this List! ;-) Bob V. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA TV Special: Looking Up At Mars
I just called our local cable provider to see about this show but alas! they will not offer it. They are looking at another satellite but maybe some of you will be able to catch it. Following is the pertinant information received from NASA Science News, Enjoy! Nancy Strand Ptersburg, Alaska 99833 Tonight on NASA TV, a group of NASA astronomers and engineers will host a live 4-hour broadcast about Earth's ongoing close encounter with Mars. The purpose of the program is to help sky watchers find Mars in the night sky, and if they happen to have a telescope, to understand what they see in the eyepiece when they point their 'scope at the red planet. Guests will include Jack Horkheimer of PBS's StarGazer program, David Levy, the science editor of Parade magazine and co-discoverer of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, Skylab astronaut Owen Garriott, and NASA's Chief Scientist for Mars Exploration Jim Garvin. The show begins at 8:00 p.m. CDT (9:00 p.m. EDT or 6:00 p.m. PDT) on Tuesday, August 26th. Thats 0100 UT on August 27th. NASA TV is broadcast from the geosynchronous satellite AMC-9 located at 85 degrees west longitude. Tune to transponder 9C at 3880.0 MHz. Polarization is vertical and audio is monaural at 6.8 MHz. Fortunately, many cable and satellite TV providers carry the channel, so you don't need to worry about such details. Flip through your channels today and see if you can find NASA TV--or call your provider for more information. NASA TV is also broadcast live on the web: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html _ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Poster for Collectors
Good morning list, Finally, there is a meteorite poster for the collector! Geoff Notkin and I have gathered forces to produce the first one ever! see: "The World of Meteorites: A to Z" http://shop.store.yahoo.com/scimall-usa/woofmefrtoz.html This is destined to become a poster classic along with its companion ... "Traveler's Guide to the Surface of Mars." Ship date Sept. 2cd. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/scimall-usa/suofmapo.html Both of them have been edited by Harry McSween (author of many science books), and have plenty photograph contributors from the list including Al and Iris Lang, Geoff Cintron, Jim Kreigh, John Sinclair, Steve Arnold and a section by O. Richard Norton. David Weir wrote the copy about each meteorite that was alphabetically selected. Purchase these before the release date comes about and you got to pay more. Destined to be classics! The poster becomes the regular price Sept. 8th, which is the ship date. Email me for discounts on quantity. See meteorites as you have never seen them before! Best, Sarah Kennedy Jensan Scientifics/ Science Mall-USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recent significant larger US finds
I recovered the Tinnie Iron meteorite, and the 8 kilogram Roosevelt County 102 meteorite during the Portales Valley fall in 1998. Of course both from other finders. Mike Farmer --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rob and others, > > I don't know the full story of the 87 kg Wagon > Wound. According to the A to Z > book it was found in 1932. My poorly stated question > was meant to be, "what > are some of the recent finds (let's say the last 15 > years) in the US that a > few kilos became available to the public for sale?". > I was reminded of Hope > Creek a LL6 from Alaska in 1998 and Felt(b) a L3.5 > from Oklahoma in 1990. > > And of of course we have Gold Basin identified in > 1995, a L5 from Arizona. > > If the list is about that short for bigger finds > then again I believe the > Spade find to be significant for us in the states. > > John > > > I would call Wagon Mound significant. > > -- > > Rob Wesel > > -- > > We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers > of the dreams. > > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Matt Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-SPADE slices for > sale > > > > > > > List members and Matt, > > > > > > The Spade meteorite looks and reads like a very > special find. > > Congratulations > > > to Matt for being the one to get involved with > this new find. I was > > wondering > > > what meteorite was the last significant find in > the US that was shared > > with > > > the public like this one...with a couple kilos > (+3 kg) available for > > > purchase? Just curious...I can't recall one in > the last 4 or 5 years that > > > I've been involved...except maybe Gold Basin of > course. > > > > > > For me it(Spade) being an IMB is extra exciting > because I find the impact > > > melt breccias to be very unique materials. As I > said to Matt, this type of > > > material reminds of glass when looking at its' > broken edges. The metal > > > quantity looks extreme for the Spade > material...even for an H. > > > > > > I also found the article on shock metamorphism > by Dr. Rubin to be very > > > interesting. Occurrences of S5, annealed back to > S2, and then shocked > > again > > > to S4, etc. for one example makes me wonder if > some of the changes in > > > petrologic levels actually occurs during these > extreme shock and melt > > > processes? > > > > > > Random thoughts as usual, > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Listees: > > > > Here is my offering of this new beauty. > Funny... we purchased the Spade > > > > meteorite from the finder the day AFTER the > Park Forest fall (which is > > why I > > > > wasn't at the PF fall site). > > > > > > > > The slices listed below are priced at ~5.00/g, > on the low end of the > > impact melt > > > > price range so you can get a bigger piece for > the $$$: > > > > > > > > 614 gram end piece $3000.00. A really > spectacular piece and the largest > > > > available outside the main mass. Fully crusted > back side, except where a > > sample > > > > was removed for analysis, and thin for an end > piece. 14cm X 15cm X 1cm. > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/614-end.jpg > > > > > > > > 261 gram complete slice (except where sample > was removed for analysis). > > 12.5cm > > > > X 14cm X 4mm > > > > $1305.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/261.jpg > > > > > > > > 256 gram complete slice (except where sample > was removed for analysis). > > 14cm X > > > > 15cm X 3mm. $1280.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/256.jpg > > > > > > > > 146 gram part slice with crust. 8.5 cm X > 7.5cm X 5mm $730.00 > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/146.jpg > > > > > > > > 56 gram part slice with crust. 7cm X 4cm X 5mm > $280.00 (ON HOLD) > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/56.jpg > > > > > > > > 40 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 4cm X > 5mm $200.00 > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/40.jpg > > > > > > > > 34 gram part slice with crust. 5cm X 3cm X 5mm > $170.00 > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/34.jpg > > > > > > > > 22 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 2.5 cm > X 5mm $110.00 > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/22.jpg > > > > > > > > 21 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 3cm X > 5mm $105.00 > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/21.jpg > > > > > > > > 20 gram part slice with crust. 3.3 cm X 3 cm X > 5mm $100.00 > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/20.jpg > > > > > > > > 19 gram part slice no crust. 4 cm X 2 cm X 5mm > $95.00 > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/19.jpg > > > > > > > > 18 gram part slice no crust. 4 cm X 2 cm X 5mm > $90.00 > > > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/18.jpg > > > > > > > > 16 gram part slice with crust. 3 cm X 2.2 cm X > 5mm. $80.00 > > > > > ht
[meteorite-list] Recent significant larger US finds
Rob and others, I don't know the full story of the 87 kg Wagon Wound. According to the A to Z book it was found in 1932. My poorly stated question was meant to be, "what are some of the recent finds (let's say the last 15 years) in the US that a few kilos became available to the public for sale?". I was reminded of Hope Creek a LL6 from Alaska in 1998 and Felt(b) a L3.5 from Oklahoma in 1990. And of of course we have Gold Basin identified in 1995, a L5 from Arizona. If the list is about that short for bigger finds then again I believe the Spade find to be significant for us in the states. John > I would call Wagon Mound significant. > -- > Rob Wesel > -- > We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Matt Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-SPADE slices for sale > > > > List members and Matt, > > > > The Spade meteorite looks and reads like a very special find. > Congratulations > > to Matt for being the one to get involved with this new find. I was > wondering > > what meteorite was the last significant find in the US that was shared > with > > the public like this one...with a couple kilos (+3 kg) available for > > purchase? Just curious...I can't recall one in the last 4 or 5 years that > > I've been involved...except maybe Gold Basin of course. > > > > For me it(Spade) being an IMB is extra exciting because I find the impact > > melt breccias to be very unique materials. As I said to Matt, this type of > > material reminds of glass when looking at its' broken edges. The metal > > quantity looks extreme for the Spade material...even for an H. > > > > I also found the article on shock metamorphism by Dr. Rubin to be very > > interesting. Occurrences of S5, annealed back to S2, and then shocked > again > > to S4, etc. for one example makes me wonder if some of the changes in > > petrologic levels actually occurs during these extreme shock and melt > > processes? > > > > Random thoughts as usual, > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Listees: > > > Here is my offering of this new beauty. Funny... we purchased the Spade > > > meteorite from the finder the day AFTER the Park Forest fall (which is > why I > > > wasn't at the PF fall site). > > > > > > The slices listed below are priced at ~5.00/g, on the low end of the > impact melt > > > price range so you can get a bigger piece for the $$$: > > > > > > 614 gram end piece $3000.00. A really spectacular piece and the largest > > > available outside the main mass. Fully crusted back side, except where a > sample > > > was removed for analysis, and thin for an end piece. 14cm X 15cm X 1cm. > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/614-end.jpg > > > > > > 261 gram complete slice (except where sample was removed for analysis). > 12.5cm > > > X 14cm X 4mm > > > $1305.00 http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/261.jpg > > > > > > 256 gram complete slice (except where sample was removed for analysis). > 14cm X > > > 15cm X 3mm. $1280.00 http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/256.jpg > > > > > > 146 gram part slice with crust. 8.5 cm X 7.5cm X 5mm $730.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/146.jpg > > > > > > 56 gram part slice with crust. 7cm X 4cm X 5mm $280.00 (ON HOLD) > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/56.jpg > > > > > > 40 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 4cm X 5mm $200.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/40.jpg > > > > > > 34 gram part slice with crust. 5cm X 3cm X 5mm $170.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/34.jpg > > > > > > 22 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm $110.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/22.jpg > > > > > > 21 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 3cm X 5mm $105.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/21.jpg > > > > > > 20 gram part slice with crust. 3.3 cm X 3 cm X 5mm $100.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/20.jpg > > > > > > 19 gram part slice no crust. 4 cm X 2 cm X 5mm $95.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/19.jpg > > > > > > 18 gram part slice no crust. 4 cm X 2 cm X 5mm $90.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/18.jpg > > > > > > 16 gram part slice with crust. 3 cm X 2.2 cm X 5mm. $80.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/16.jpg > > > > > > 15 gram part slice no crust. 3.2 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm. $75.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/15.jpg > > > > > > 15(b) gram part slice with no crust. 3.2 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm. $75.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/15-b.jpg > > > > > > 10 gram part slice with no crust. 2.4 cm X 1.6 cm X 5mm. $50.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/10.jpg > > > > > > 9 gram part slice with no crust. 2.8 cm X 1.4 cm X 5mm. $45.00 > > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/
Re: [meteorite-list] AW: HAVH-6 = 6 Hebe
G'day Norbert & List, Some time ago I put together a page with the suspected parent bodies of different meteorites. You can visit the list here: http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/odds&ends/origin.html If anyone has more that could be added, feel free to drop me an email. Cheers, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteoritesaustralia.com - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen To: meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] AW: HAVH-6 = 6 Hebe Thanks Mike and Rob,That's probably the solution. In "Meteorites and Their ParentBodies" H. McSween also lists 6 Hebe as one of the most probablecandidates to be the PB of the H chondrites. Now, but that alsomeans that they found a small ordinary chondrite in Israel. Nobig deal in a desert environment...All the best,Norbert> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht->> Mike is correct -- it's a simple mistranslation. Furthermore,> the S-type asteroid Hebe is a candidate for the H-chondrite> parent body, indicating that the Israeli meteorite is probably> an H-chondrite. --Rob>> -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:37 PM> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Found In Israel>> Asteroid #6 is Hebe, could have been mistranslated as HAVH-6>> Mike Fowler> Chicago>> __> Meteorite-list mailing list> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list>__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Jones house smasher
One sale did not go through so I have one left if anyone is interested. Thanks to all who bought. The home of Philip and Brenda Jones of Olympia Fields was damaged by an almost ten pound meteorite traveling at over 200 miles per hour. It smashed through the roof, the kitchen ceiling, the kitchen floor and into the basement before bouncing into a pile of laundry. Offered here are custom mounted, relatively large micros of the Jones House impactor. All of these riker mounts were cut by hand. I have four for sale and the price delivered is $100 each. The photo in the link is representative for size for all four. Needless to say, this is exceedingly rare material, and your satisfaction is backed by an immediate refund for immediate return, including your return postage. Fist come first served. These will never hit eBay but may see Tucson if not sold. http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ra/rancor/.mids/Jones.JPG I will reply to to your emails later tonight, writing this as I head out the door. -- Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD-SPADE slices for sale
I would call Wagon Mound significant. -- Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-SPADE slices for sale > List members and Matt, > > The Spade meteorite looks and reads like a very special find. Congratulations > to Matt for being the one to get involved with this new find. I was wondering > what meteorite was the last significant find in the US that was shared with > the public like this one...with a couple kilos (+3 kg) available for > purchase? Just curious...I can't recall one in the last 4 or 5 years that > I've been involved...except maybe Gold Basin of course. > > For me it(Spade) being an IMB is extra exciting because I find the impact > melt breccias to be very unique materials. As I said to Matt, this type of > material reminds of glass when looking at its' broken edges. The metal > quantity looks extreme for the Spade material...even for an H. > > I also found the article on shock metamorphism by Dr. Rubin to be very > interesting. Occurrences of S5, annealed back to S2, and then shocked again > to S4, etc. for one example makes me wonder if some of the changes in > petrologic levels actually occurs during these extreme shock and melt > processes? > > Random thoughts as usual, > > John > > > > > > Hi Listees: > > Here is my offering of this new beauty. Funny... we purchased the Spade > > meteorite from the finder the day AFTER the Park Forest fall (which is why I > > wasn't at the PF fall site). > > > > The slices listed below are priced at ~5.00/g, on the low end of the impact melt > > price range so you can get a bigger piece for the $$$: > > > > 614 gram end piece $3000.00. A really spectacular piece and the largest > > available outside the main mass. Fully crusted back side, except where a sample > > was removed for analysis, and thin for an end piece. 14cm X 15cm X 1cm. > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/614-end.jpg > > > > 261 gram complete slice (except where sample was removed for analysis). 12.5cm > > X 14cm X 4mm > > $1305.00 http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/261.jpg > > > > 256 gram complete slice (except where sample was removed for analysis). 14cm X > > 15cm X 3mm. $1280.00 http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/256.jpg > > > > 146 gram part slice with crust. 8.5 cm X 7.5cm X 5mm $730.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/146.jpg > > > > 56 gram part slice with crust. 7cm X 4cm X 5mm $280.00 (ON HOLD) > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/56.jpg > > > > 40 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 4cm X 5mm $200.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/40.jpg > > > > 34 gram part slice with crust. 5cm X 3cm X 5mm $170.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/34.jpg > > > > 22 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm $110.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/22.jpg > > > > 21 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 3cm X 5mm $105.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/21.jpg > > > > 20 gram part slice with crust. 3.3 cm X 3 cm X 5mm $100.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/20.jpg > > > > 19 gram part slice no crust. 4 cm X 2 cm X 5mm $95.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/19.jpg > > > > 18 gram part slice no crust. 4 cm X 2 cm X 5mm $90.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/18.jpg > > > > 16 gram part slice with crust. 3 cm X 2.2 cm X 5mm. $80.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/16.jpg > > > > 15 gram part slice no crust. 3.2 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm. $75.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/15.jpg > > > > 15(b) gram part slice with no crust. 3.2 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm. $75.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/15-b.jpg > > > > 10 gram part slice with no crust. 2.4 cm X 1.6 cm X 5mm. $50.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/10.jpg > > > > 9 gram part slice with no crust. 2.8 cm X 1.4 cm X 5mm. $45.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/9.jpg > > > > 8 gram part slice with no crust. 1.6 cm X 2 cm X 5mm. $40.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/8.jpg > > > > 4 gram part slice with no crust. 1.2 cm X 1.5 cm X 5mm. $20.00 > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/4.jpg > > > > Thanks, > > Matt Morgan > > Mile High Meteorites > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Presentations
During quick trips to Mexico I've followed the discussions re: public presentations on meteorites. Amen!! Robert, Tracy, David et. al. You are so right. In conjunction with a celebration of the centennial of flight, our local library in Monument, Colorado allowed me to place an eye-catching display in their main entry, In a LOCKED case I had irons from S/As to Gibeon, Toluca, Campos both entire and cut and etched, several stones including the one I found in Mexico, a huge Markovka, Gold Basin, Allende, several un-named NWAs, thin section slides (including Taffasasett from Anne Black) and photos and lots more, all with printed explanations of just what the folks were seeing and what they represented and could tell us. Dr. Norton allowed me to reproduce graphics from his two books. The real "crowd catchers" were a great lunar display of two slices in a beautiful case lent by Fred Olsen, and my slice of Zagami which I got from "The King", Bob Haag. The display is there the entire month of August and has drawn huge interest. Last Saturday I gave a presentation during which everyone was able to handle several meteorites. This is a small library, so the staff set out 30 chairs, expecting about 25 folks to show. When the crowd hit, ten more were set up, then ten more, and more until the room could hold no more. Best turn-out ever! What a beautiful feeling it was, to be able to share my limited knowledge with such an enthusiatic group. This, my friends and fellow space rock collectors is what it's all about: sharing your enthusiasm with others. They love it, take enthusiasm with them and in turn share that with others. And yes, several folks brought in their prized pieces of magnetite and I had to break their hearts. Darn! Follow-up on this is that the two main libraries in Colorado Springs now would like the same display and talk next year. Between the two, hundreds if not thousands of folks will be touched by these "Rocks From Space". Botom line -- go out and share with others. It's fun, it's informative for the public in ways they cannot otherwise get that information, and who knows, somewhere along the line someone will bring in a real meteorite for you to, in turn, get real excited about. It happened to Fred Olsen and it happened to me. It can happen to you. Larry Johnson IMCA #6116 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] archives-name vs email address
I prefer to read the meteorite list from the archives. It is easier to follow interesting threads, and ignore uninteresting ones. (for me anyway) http://one.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2003-August/date.html My question is: Why do some members names show up next to their post's and others are identified by their email address? Mine show up with my email address instead of my name. Although eventually one can get to recognize people by their email addresses, it is much more convenient to see the name. I've noticed this on other lists I'm a member of, but never asked why before. Mike Fowler Chicago __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD-SPADE slices for sale
List members and Matt, The Spade meteorite looks and reads like a very special find. Congratulations to Matt for being the one to get involved with this new find. I was wondering what meteorite was the last significant find in the US that was shared with the public like this one...with a couple kilos (+3 kg) available for purchase? Just curious...I can't recall one in the last 4 or 5 years that I've been involved...except maybe Gold Basin of course. For me it(Spade) being an IMB is extra exciting because I find the impact melt breccias to be very unique materials. As I said to Matt, this type of material reminds of glass when looking at its' broken edges. The metal quantity looks extreme for the Spade material...even for an H. I also found the article on shock metamorphism by Dr. Rubin to be very interesting. Occurrences of S5, annealed back to S2, and then shocked again to S4, etc. for one example makes me wonder if some of the changes in petrologic levels actually occurs during these extreme shock and melt processes? Random thoughts as usual, John > Hi Listees: > Here is my offering of this new beauty. Funny... we purchased the Spade > meteorite from the finder the day AFTER the Park Forest fall (which is why I > wasn't at the PF fall site). > > The slices listed below are priced at ~5.00/g, on the low end of the impact melt > price range so you can get a bigger piece for the $$$: > > 614 gram end piece $3000.00. A really spectacular piece and the largest > available outside the main mass. Fully crusted back side, except where a sample > was removed for analysis, and thin for an end piece. 14cm X 15cm X 1cm. > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/614-end.jpg > > 261 gram complete slice (except where sample was removed for analysis). 12.5cm > X 14cm X 4mm > $1305.00 http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/261.jpg > > 256 gram complete slice (except where sample was removed for analysis). 14cm X > 15cm X 3mm. $1280.00 http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/256.jpg > > 146 gram part slice with crust. 8.5 cm X 7.5cm X 5mm $730.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/146.jpg > > 56 gram part slice with crust. 7cm X 4cm X 5mm $280.00 (ON HOLD) > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/56.jpg > > 40 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 4cm X 5mm $200.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/40.jpg > > 34 gram part slice with crust. 5cm X 3cm X 5mm $170.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/34.jpg > > 22 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm $110.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/22.jpg > > 21 gram part slice with crust. 4.5 cm X 3cm X 5mm $105.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/21.jpg > > 20 gram part slice with crust. 3.3 cm X 3 cm X 5mm $100.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/20.jpg > > 19 gram part slice no crust. 4 cm X 2 cm X 5mm $95.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/19.jpg > > 18 gram part slice no crust. 4 cm X 2 cm X 5mm $90.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/18.jpg > > 16 gram part slice with crust. 3 cm X 2.2 cm X 5mm. $80.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/16.jpg > > 15 gram part slice no crust. 3.2 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm. $75.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/15.jpg > > 15(b) gram part slice with no crust. 3.2 cm X 2.5 cm X 5mm. $75.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/15-b.jpg > > 10 gram part slice with no crust. 2.4 cm X 1.6 cm X 5mm. $50.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/10.jpg > > 9 gram part slice with no crust. 2.8 cm X 1.4 cm X 5mm. $45.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/9.jpg > > 8 gram part slice with no crust. 1.6 cm X 2 cm X 5mm. $40.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/8.jpg > > 4 gram part slice with no crust. 1.2 cm X 1.5 cm X 5mm. $20.00 > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/spade/4.jpg > > Thanks, > Matt Morgan > Mile High Meteorites > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Elma status and Tucson Room Rates
Mike, Thanks for your reply. I never meant to indicate that I thought it was a meteorite. I am interested to find out what they determined this material to be. And what better source to find out from then the meteorite list. Charles, Thanks for your information on the status of the Elma material. I found it to be quite interesting. To all members interested in the Tucson room rates please read below. These were the most reasonable we found. Towneplace Suites By Marriott Tucson $79.00 per nite 888-254-0637. Best Western Inn Suites $89.99 with AAA discount. 520-297-8111 Thanks, Sonny
RE: [meteorite-list] Elma status and other interesting things.
Robert, Post away, but please refrain from the asphalt and tar non-sense; it's gone way beyond that... Adam and list, Thanks Adam, I had fun doing them and eagerly await seeing what a SEM scan shows of that material as well as the comments from the examiners. In another subject: I just got back from a 9 day excursion in Utah exploring the known KT exposure areas in the Wasatch Plateau, Spanish Fork and the grand staircase through Escalante on up to Capitol Reef. What incredible places these are and it is somewhat overwhelming. Special thanks to Dr Tony Ekdale (U of U) for his response to my inquiries prior to my trip and his excellent tips. Additional thanks to Dr. Robert L. Eves, (SUU) for the excellent road logs and grand staircase stratigraphy details. It is amazing what you can find on main routes, however, the off-road trips were absolutely fascinating. . I have collected some great sample material (with permission, US national parks and Utah Geological Survey, Dept of Natural Resources) and took a few hundred 35mm and digital images. It will take some time to compile everything in a reasonable journal and once completed, I would like to share it with list members who would be interested. I think the subject matter shares at least equal with meteoritics and geology, so I will post the links to a geology list as well. Utah is an incredible state with a wealth of natural resources and I look forward to spending some more time there. Regards Charles Viau IMCA 4351 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Verish Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Elma status Charles R. Viau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "and while probably not a meteorite by definition..." ? "...if the word ELMA bothers you, delete this message and please don't respond to the list." ! - Be advised, Charles! It isn't just Farmer that has a problem with this subject and I just may have to "respond to this list"..., (but I've decided to take my post to bed with me and "sleep on it" ;-) until the morning... ...unless another List dedicated only to meteor-wrongs comes on-line overnight! [Yes, I know about that other List, but that's for "members only"] Have a Good Morning All, Bob V. [meteorite-list] Elma status Charles R. Viau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:57:33 -0400 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Elma status Next message: [meteorite-list] Ebay Meteorite - AD Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_000A_01C36AAC.4342B430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Sonny and List, The Elma objects remains a mystery, and while probably not a meteorite by definition, remains a very seriously studied material by a number of leading labs and scientists. There are papers due out on this material soon and we will just have to wait to see what the professional world has to say about it. Many have already seen some preliminary chemistry results that were posted, as well as some microprobe results. If you get into that stuff, then you can probably see why there is so much controversy over the origin of this material. Equally interesting are some of the low power microscope images. Adam Hupe had spearheaded the effort to get this material seen by some of the best authorities available, and I believe that if not for his excellent scientific method, this event would be lost forever. Adam had requested that I re-post some imagery I had provided previously for anyone still interested in this stuff. A rather low-res composite page can be found here: http://home.beld.net/~belugaband/images/ElmaComposite.jpg If anyone wants some higher resolution imagery, just ask, and I will be glad to email them to you. Thanks, Charles IMCA 4351 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Overland Park
Other that the basic information listed in the Catalogue of Meteorites, does anyone have any information on the Overland Park meteorite? Thanks in advance, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
