[meteorite-list] Can't get hold of him...!

2003-10-24 Thread Dave Harris
Hullo!
I can't get an email to Harlan Trammell - bloody mail keeps bouncing back!
Harlan - if you get to see this mail, I got your New Orleans sky rocks for
you and data too (as email attachments)
Sorry about using the list as a Missing Persons Bureau!


dave

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[meteorite-list] New-Orleans and Saint Aubin now available

2003-10-24 Thread Impactika
Hello everybody!

I have just received some tiny fragments of the New-Orleans meteorite, and a few slices of Saint Aubin, the new ungrouped octahedrite from France (more coming soon). And they are all ready for you to enjoy.

The New-Orleans meteorite is indeed very friable, and the fragments are small, the largest is 0.10g, but I can see chondrules peeking out, and there are a few flakes of crust here and there. They will be shipped in small membrane boxes, 0.10g per box. That means that the first response gets the bigggest fragment, the second will get a couple fragments to make up 0.10g, and so on, until I run out of fragments. And the price: $25.00 for each box. I'll pay regular postage within the States.

Right now, I have 2 small part-slices of St Aubin, the weights are 78.87g and 70.57g. And a small part endpiece of 50.81g. and 2 much larger slices (344.72g and 250.92g).  If they don't sell quickly they will probably be cut. Saint Aubin is an ungrouped octahedrite with a lot of inclusions, these slices show a lot of needles of shreibersite, I see one about 5cm long. Pictures available upon request.  And the price is $5/gram.   

And no, they are not on my site, I haven't taken the time to post them yet. 
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you!


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Re: [meteorite-list] Recognizing a Venusian meteorite

2003-10-24 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

Actually, there are a number of sedimentary meteorites. It's just that
they are not acknowledged to be meteorites.
If you have the CDROM of the Catalogue, have the software assemble you a
list of "pseudometeorites" that are not irons.
Or just search for BLECKENSTAD (April 11, 1925) SWEDEN, a sedimentary
meteorite of white limestone complete with fossil shells. It was reported on
by Dr. Assar Hadding of the Swedish Geological Institute in 1939 who after a
long investigation decided it really was a meteorite. The chief reason for
so believing is that it is a WITNESSED FALL and you really can't get much
better than that. However, he was widely regarded as whacky by the wise men
of 1939 and (equally wisely) shut up about it for 20 years. Hadding was so
discouraged by the reception of his earlier paper that, when he discovered
another sedimentary meteorite, he threw it away! Only much later, when he
realized that they could have been "Earthites," did he write about the two
stones again.
Nininger himself found a small sedimentary meteorite, on March 24, 1933,
while searching for fragments of Pasamonte. The stone in question was a
dirty grey  limestone with fragmentary shell bits fossilized in it and
sporting a black fusion crust. He ruled out an artificial origin for the
crust but was unwilling to claim it was a meteorite, apparently not because
he didn't think it was a meteorite but because it wasn't worth the noise...
Frank Cross wrote about sedimentary meteorites at length in the journal
"Popular Astronomy" (Vol. 55, 1947, pp. 96-102), citing Trevlac (Indiana)
and Montrose (West Virginia), two independently discovered sedimentary
meteorites with identical green glassy crusts.
And so it goes...
The whereabouts of most of the sedimentary "pseudometeorites" is
unknown, not surprising considering their reception, so the sophisticated
tests that could be performed today are impossible. There's a kind of
self-reinforcing judgement at work in that. Two guys from the French
Academy, flumping their powdered wigs, explain, "Foolish peasant! Ze
sedimentary rocks from ze sky, zey do not fall," so we throw the evidence in
the trash.
Anybody on the List know what happened to Nininger's sedimentary find?


Sterling K. Webb


mark ford wrote:

> More to the point where are all the earth meteorites? We should be able
> to recognize them, (one would hope!), I guess as most of the earths
> immediate surface is soil, or sedimentary rock(s), an earthite meteorite
> would be pretty strange do date no true 'sedimentary' meteorites have
> been found?, I guess it would probably look like a tektite I.e silica
> glass... or would they be just be highly shocked ordinary terrestrial
> rocks but with a fusion crust?
>
> Mark Ford
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[meteorite-list] NP Article, 03-1977 Meteorites May Reveal New Clues

2003-10-24 Thread MARK BOSTICK
 Paper: Indiana Evening Gazette City: Indiana, Pennsylvania  Date: Tuesday, March 1, 1977 Page: 14   Meteorites May Reveal New Clues From Space WASHINGTON (AP) - Geologists studying 11 meteorites recovered in Antarctica, including an 898 pound blockbuster, say their find promises to yield important new scientific information, in part because the pace rocks appear to have plunged to earth at different times. The National Science Foundation said Monday that American and Japanese scientists found the meteorites, including one of the largest on record, on patches of old, blue ice in the Transantarctic Mountains. Scientists concentrate their antarctic meteorite hunts on blue ice locations because of the accidental discovery in 1969 of 992 space rock fragments in such an area. Dr. William A. Cassidy of the University of Pittsburgh said very old ice that has lost its snow cover has a bluish color. Cold and ice help protect the rock from erosion and chemical reactions that destroy meteorites elsewhere, he said. "Of the dozens of blue ice areas studied, only two yielded meteorites, said Cassidy of his recent discovery. "These two areas contain much higher local concentrations of meteorites than are found in the rest of the world." The latest meteorites were found between last Dec. 10 and Jan. 20 by Cassidy, Dr. Edward J. Olsen of the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago and Dr. Keizo Yanai of the Japanese National Institute of Polar Research in Tokyo. The find is significant not only because of the giant rock, but also because of the meteorites promise a variety of data since they apparently didn't fall at the same time, the geologists said. The meteorites ages and when they fell to earth are still unknown, they added. "These meteorite represent many different falls. We are getting a very nice cross section of what is falling on earth," Cassidy said in an interview. Cassidy said the large meteorite was found in 33 pieces - the largest fragment weighing 250 pounds - scattered over a two-acre area. The largest stony meteorite ever found is believed to be one weighing almost five tons unearthed two years ago in China, said the National Science Foundation. Meteorites are chunks of stony or metallic material from space that hit earth after flaming trips through the atmosphere. Scientists believe meteorites either are pieces of broken up planets or moons, or are bits of primary matter that never formed a larger body.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.


[meteorite-list] The first LL from Atacama desert

2003-10-24 Thread Rodrigo Martinez
Hola List
I have ready the pictures of La Yesera 002 (LL5). www.meteorites.cl 
Buenas tardes


Best Regards
Rodrigo Martinez
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[meteorite-list] Story from the Journal Sentinel Online

2003-10-24 Thread Mark Langenfeld
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Subject: Story from the Journal Sentinel Online

This story was sent from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Online: 
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It was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Langenfeld) on 10/24/2003 2:39:06 PM
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The story doesn't tell us whether Wirth's Geo Metro was painted red, or not.

(Does anyone know the whereabouts of these pieces?)

Mark

http://www.jsonline.com/WI/072500/wi--meteoriteconfirme07250083214.asp




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[meteorite-list] NASA Opens Kecksburg Docs

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-10/24/12.00.sfc

NASA Opens Kecksburg Docs
Sci Fi Channel
October 24, 2004

NASA has agreed to turn over documents relating to the alleged crash of a UFO 
in Kecksburg, Pa., in 1965, the SCI FI Channel announced. The news comes a day 
after SCI FI said it would pursue legal action against the National Aeronautics 
and Space Administration to release its records on the incident.

NASA informed Lee Helfrich, attorney for the Channel-sponsored Coalition for 
Freedom of Information, that it is releasing 36 pages of documents, the Channel 
said.

The release comes after 10 months of pursuing the records through the Freedom of 
Information Act. The Department of Defense and the U.S. Army have yet to release 
any records under similar requests, the Channel said.

"For more than four months we have received no response from NASA, but one day 
after John Podesta, President Clinton's former chief of staff and member of the 
Moynihan Commission, and Bonnie Hammer, president of SCI FI Channel, called on 
government agencies to make public records that are over 25 years old, lo and 
behold, NASA responds," Helfrich said in a statement.

"I think it's fair to say that we have truly entered the realm of science fiction 
in Washington, D.C., when it's fair game to disclose the identity of a clandestine 
CIA agent, but not the records of an unexplained crash in Kecksburg, Pa., that 
occurred 38 years ago," Podesta said at a news conference this week.

On Dec. 9, 1965, witnesses described seeing a fireball in the sky, a controlled 
landing and the systematic military recovery of an object. The incident is the 
subject of the original SCI FI Channel documentary The New Rosell: Kecksburg 
Exposed, hosted by Bryant Gumbel, which premieres Oct. 24 at 9 p.m. ET/PT.


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[meteorite-list] Visitors From Outer Space

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.abc.net.au/goldfields/stories/s973813.htm

Visitors from outer space
Irene Montefiore 
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
October 24, 2003

Have you ever looked up to the night sky, seen a blazing
object appear coming earthwards, and wondered where it
came from? A new project will try and give you some
answers. 

Dr. Phillip Bland is a researcher with
the Royal School of Mines at Imperial
College in London.  He is in charge of a
project with the aim of finding out
the specific origin of the many meteorites that fall to earth.

"Meteorite scientists are like regular geologists in a way,"
Phillip says slightly apologetic, "So you try and analyse the
rock and work out its history and how it came to be.

"Meteorites are great because they tell us about the very
early years of the solar system and how planets are put
together." Phillip further paints the picture as being "Kinda
like working out the geology of WA after someone's dumped
a random load of rocks in your backyard."

The main tool is an astronomical camera. "(It) looks at the
sky and looks at meteorite fireballs coming through the
atmosphere. The idea is (that) if we get a few of these
cameras out there, then we can work out what its orbit was
before it hit our atmosphere, and where it lands on the
surface. Maybe we can even say which asteroid it came
from."

As Phillip points out, the only problem with meteorites is that
"You can't really predict where they're going to come in or
what time. You just have to let the (camera) go. The camera
senses when the sky is clear and then opens up and starts an
exposure, we just collect all that film and process it and if
we've got a good fireball then that was a good night."

And that is the very reason why the research team have
made a bee-line for the Goldfields. "You have such beautiful
night skies," he rightly notes.

For now, the exact locations of the cameras are hush-hush
but Phillip promises that once everything is up and running
people will be able to go and see how the whole thing works.
It could even be an extra tourist attraction for the region.

But, most of all, Phillip hopes it attracts the odd meteorite or
two or three. "There have been camera networks running for
about 50 years and they've only found four meteorites,"
Phillip laments. But he is confident that the Goldfields and
the Nullarbor will bring him many sightings.


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[meteorite-list] 22-Kilogram Meteorite Found In Morocco

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Baalke


http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/11153_meteorite.html

Meteorite of a Football Size Discovered in Morocco
Pravda (Russia)
October 24, 2003

The unearthly origin of the find is proved by its crystal structure 
A large meteorite has been discovered near the city of Oujda to the
north-east of Morocco. Local mass media reported on Thursday that the
meteorite's weight was 22 kilograms. The size of the meteorite is a bit
less than a football.  

A geological center in Oudja has evinced extremely high interest in the
find. A great part of the meteorite, about two thirds of it, is brown (when
the find was discovered this very part was stuck into the surface; a smaller
part of the meteorite is black, Russia's news agency ITAR-TASS reports.

The unearthly origin of the find is proved by its crystal structure and 
slight oval-formed specks of iron and magnesium.   

Experts estimate that the meteorite dropped on the planet's surface not less
than 10 years ago, but the exact period of the drop is to be determined after a
thorough analysis. This analysis requires at least a year; after that the
meteorite will be exhibited at one of the national museums for public
expositions.   

All meteorites are divided into finds and drops; finds are such meteorites
which falling was not observed. Their belonging to meteorites is estimated by
the substantial analysis of their structure.

Majority of meteorites in museums and private collections are discoveries. As
stone meteorites can be mistaken for earth rocks, they often remain unnoticed.
The percentage of stone meteorites among the finds is lower than among the
drops. 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Recognizing a Venusian meteorite

2003-10-24 Thread tracy latimer
Considering that all the extrasolar planets we have found so far have been 
gas giants, and some in highly weird orbits to boot, maybe Earth  _is_ an 
anomaly, astrophysically speaking. Of course, our means of locating smaller 
planets isn't as effective, yet.  Possibly being smacked by whatever tore 
loose the moon (according to recent theory) was the best thing that could 
have happened to us -- for life formation, that is.

Tracy Latimer

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Gee,
You mean, we could have been a nice "normal" planet like Venus if it 
wasn't for
the sheer bad luck of getting that ol' Devil Moon delivered to our 
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[meteorite-list] ebay AD - 72g individual of a year 2002 fall

2003-10-24 Thread Svend Buhl
Hello all,

Id like to take a chance to present a beautiful individual of last years fall in 
Thuathe / Lesotho. 

Currently for sale on ebay at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2197780822&category=3239&rd=1

Item ends sunday Oct-26-03 21:00:00 PST, reserve price is 4,80 / g

The smootly ablated individual weighs a solid 72 grms and shows a breathtaking 
texture. Insured air mail shipping to the US is USD 16 and usually takes no longer 
than 8-10 days. I would appreciate knowing this fine piece of space debris with a 
member of this one of a kind list.

I wo'nt be online until sunday night because the whole family is visiting lucky 
grandma for her 90st Birthday, (almost meteoritic age, is'nt it?) Ill answer your 
questions after the party. 

For those of you visiting the anual Gifhorn meteorite fair in Germany: have a good 
time folks and post some reports, I join again next year. 

thanks & best regards

Svend Buhl

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[meteorite-list] Ne Orleans informations

2003-10-24 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello

I am under buy some little fragments and a fragment of
the New Orleans fall, what probably name is give to
this meteorite from the Nom Com, New Orleans? The
total mass is 20 kg. or up? News on the
classification?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tektites-Earthites

2003-10-24 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Well,

if the moon has once been a part of the earth, do we have lunaites
at all? Are they in fact earthites? ;-
take care,

pekka

mark ford wrote:



2. or we have misidentified some of the Lunar or Martian or other rock
types when in fact they are from other planet(s) (although this is
unlikely)


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RE: [meteorite-list] Tektites-Earthites

2003-10-24 Thread mark ford

Zelmir,

To me the very fact that there are no known Earthites, (other than
Tektites) or any known 'venusites', (or indeed any meteorites of types
not believed to be from asteroids/persolar nebula/mars/moon/and maybe
mercury?) raises some interesting questions...

Either,
 
1. The mechanism we believe that allows rocks to escape from Venus and
Earth (i.e. larger planets with a thick atmosphere and high gravity) is
wrong and they can't or don't get ejected very often at all.

2. or we have misidentified some of the Lunar or Martian or other rock
types when in fact they are from other planet(s) (although this is
unlikely)

3. or statistically we have not found them because we just haven't found
enough meteorites yet (although we (mankind) have found quite a few
now!).

4. or they look [very different] to what we are used to, and they are
actually all around us! 

Personally I think that we still have a lot to learn about atmospheric
rock interactions and particularly about ejections on planets like
Venus, I mean a rock has to undergo two atmospheric 'meltings' to arrive
here on earth.
I'ts different with the Martian rocks because the atmosphere is very
thin, that must make a big difference to the ejected rock 'yield'?

Just my thoughts,
Mark


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[meteorite-list] Tektites-Earthites

2003-10-24 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Mark,

I believe it is well understood that tektites are of terrestrial origin
(one, probably the most widely accepted theory). My remark was more subtle. 
Without having data on hand to check, I believe that a tektite is considered
as a terrestrial (silica -rich or -enriched) material ejected (by some
impactor) to the high atmosphere (stratosphere...), say several dozens of Km
high and that then they "soon" fell down on earth again, not necessarily
next to the impact site (example:  Ries) in the usual well known form,
shape, morphology, composition, characterizing most of the traditional tektites.
 How "high" and "how" soon? That might be the question.
 
In other words, if this ejecta would escape the terrestrial gravity and be
sent into space for a long time (dozen, hundred, millon...years?) and then,
by chance, fall again down on earth, they could (should) be called "earthites". 
The question is: would they then have the same characteristics as our good
old usual tektites ? Some crust ? or...? 
In any case, there is no reason that their core (perhaps also the outer rim)
does not remain "melted" as in traditional tektites.
Also: would the atmospheric friction damages have the same effect on their
characteristics in both cases ?

In the preceding post, my (provocative) question was: can our "good old
usual tektites" be considered as "METEORITES from terrestrial origin"? I
know that, following the traditional theories, they would not (necessarily)
correspond to the current definition of a meteorite. But then I naively
imagine that the distance (from earth, upon ejection) and time (spent in
space) are more accurately defined so as to discriminate between "tektites"
and these (so far hypothetical) "earthites".

Note that I would love that tektites are once considered as true
(terrestrial) meteorites. My collection would then be enriched by more than
300 "earthites" of which more than 10 unpaired...

Oh, I also agree on two other points you mentioned:
- "sedimentary earthites" should also exist and
-"barrage of posts" in view...

Best wishes,

Zelimir

At 10:29 24/10/03 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Zelmir,
>
>Indeed!, I was being ironic when I said Earthites would look like Tektites.
I think it is widely accepted that Tektites are Terrestrial! (wait for the
barrage of posts :)  The fact that fused silica is found around impact
craters ought to be a blimming clue !!
>
>But also, surley there ought to be some intermediate meteorites somewhere
between Tektites and normal terrestrial rock ? (it would have to have been
big enough with the right velocity to make it back alive to earth though..
>
>Mark Ford
>
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
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>Subject: [meteorite-list] "Earthite"
>
>Mark,
>
>If your "earthite meteorite" would look like "a tektite or silica glass"
>then the tektites ARE "Earthites" !?
>
>Shows my ignorance (although I well know the different theories about the
>origin of tektites) but glad if my kidding provokes some debate among experts.
>That is way is this list for. In other words, a stupid (or provocative)
>proposal is sometimes needed to get a keen answer.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Zelimir
>
>At 09:01 24/10/03 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>More to the point where are all the earth meteorites? We should be able
>>to recognize them, (one would hope!), I guess as most of the earths
>>immediate surface is soil, or sedimentary rock(s), an earthite meteorite
>>would be pretty strange do date no true 'sedimentary' meteorites have
>>been found?, I guess it would probably look like a tektite I.e silica
>>glass... or would they be just be highly shocked ordinary terrestrial
>>rocks but with a fusion crust?
>>
>>
>>Mark Ford
>
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[meteorite-list] Re: Green Glow Over North Carolina Could Have Been Meteor Shower

2003-10-24 Thread Marco Langbroek
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Green Glow Over North Carolina Could Have Been
Meteor Shower

>> Orionids at 8:45 pm??? No way! The radiant is far below the horizon then.
>
> Sorry, but this isn't correct.
>
> One can indeed see meteors from a shower when the radiant is below the
> horizon. Meteors do not cluster at the radiant point, but rather appear
all
> over the sky.

Sorry Bob, but  you are mistaken.

Meteors from a given radiant are only visible if the radiant is above the
horizon from that location too. Yes, meteors are visible all over the sky;
but only if the radiant is above the horizon.

And at 8:45 pm, the Orionid radiant isn't.

With the radiant still below the horizon, the earth itself is between you
and any stream meteors entering atmosphere. This means your piece of
atmosphere is shielded from incoming stream meteors at that moment. Only
when the radiant appears over the horizon, meteors from this radiant start
to graze through the atmosphere above you.

Orionids are only visible in the second part of the night. By contrast, the
Taurid stream can be seen in the evening too, because the radiant(s) rise
earlier.

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RE: [meteorite-list] "Earthite"

2003-10-24 Thread mark ford

Zelmir,

Indeed!, I was being ironic when I said Earthites would look like Tektites. I think it 
is widely accepted that Tektites are Terrestrial! (wait for the barrage of posts :)  
The fact that fused silica is found around impact craters ought to be a blimming clue 
!!

But also, surley there ought to be some intermediate meteorites somewhere between 
Tektites and normal terrestrial rock ? (it would have to have been big enough with the 
right velocity to make it back alive to earth though..

Mark Ford





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From: Zelimir Gabelica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 October 2003 09:29
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Subject: [meteorite-list] "Earthite"

Mark,

If your "earthite meteorite" would look like "a tektite or silica glass"
then the tektites ARE "Earthites" !?

Shows my ignorance (although I well know the different theories about the
origin of tektites) but glad if my kidding provokes some debate among experts.
That is way is this list for. In other words, a stupid (or provocative)
proposal is sometimes needed to get a keen answer.

Cheers,

Zelimir

At 09:01 24/10/03 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>More to the point where are all the earth meteorites? We should be able
>to recognize them, (one would hope!), I guess as most of the earths
>immediate surface is soil, or sedimentary rock(s), an earthite meteorite
>would be pretty strange do date no true 'sedimentary' meteorites have
>been found?, I guess it would probably look like a tektite I.e silica
>glass... or would they be just be highly shocked ordinary terrestrial
>rocks but with a fusion crust?
>
>
>Mark Ford

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[meteorite-list] "Earthite"

2003-10-24 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Mark,

If your "earthite meteorite" would look like "a tektite or silica glass"
then the tektites ARE "Earthites" !?

Shows my ignorance (although I well know the different theories about the
origin of tektites) but glad if my kidding provokes some debate among experts.
That is way is this list for. In other words, a stupid (or provocative)
proposal is sometimes needed to get a keen answer.

Cheers,

Zelimir

At 09:01 24/10/03 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>More to the point where are all the earth meteorites? We should be able
>to recognize them, (one would hope!), I guess as most of the earths
>immediate surface is soil, or sedimentary rock(s), an earthite meteorite
>would be pretty strange do date no true 'sedimentary' meteorites have
>been found?, I guess it would probably look like a tektite I.e silica
>glass... or would they be just be highly shocked ordinary terrestrial
>rocks but with a fusion crust?
>
>
>Mark Ford

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Groupe Sécurité et Ecologie Chimiques (GSEC) - ENSCMu
3, rue A. Werner
F-68093 MULHOUSE Cedex, FRANCE
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
FAX: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15
e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [meteorite-list] Recognizing a Venusian meteorite

2003-10-24 Thread mark ford


More to the point where are all the earth meteorites? We should be able
to recognize them, (one would hope!), I guess as most of the earths
immediate surface is soil, or sedimentary rock(s), an earthite meteorite
would be pretty strange do date no true 'sedimentary' meteorites have
been found?, I guess it would probably look like a tektite I.e silica
glass... or would they be just be highly shocked ordinary terrestrial
rocks but with a fusion crust?


Mark Ford





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Re: [meteorite-list] Gueretaro Mexico

2003-10-24 Thread Sharkkb8




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I'm searching for informations on a more recent find (iron?) from Mexico, Gueretaro (or similar).  Does somebody knows something about?
Probably Queretaro  -  it's an H4, found in 1971.   The blurb in the NHM database:
 
A complete, very weathered individual weighing 11lbs was found asa number of fragments which fitted togther two miles N of Queretaro city.Classification, olivine Fa 18^, R.S. Clarke, Jr., pers._ commun._ (1989).
 
Gregory 


[meteorite-list] Gueretaro Mexico

2003-10-24 Thread Martin Altmann



Hola list,
 
I'm searching for informations on a more recent 
find (iron?) from Mexico, Gueretaro (or similar).
Does somebody knows something about?
 
Saludos&Gracias
Martin A.


[meteorite-list] New Orleans fall - 23rd Sept 2003

2003-10-24 Thread Dave Harris
Hi,
I am getting a few non-deliverable postmaster messages back from those
individuals who wanted some of the New Orleans fall.
I have resent, but in case you do not get my notification, hopefully you'll
get it via the MetList.
Just advising you all that I have the New Orleans fall for sale now - please
email and let me know your requirements!
thanks


dave

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