[meteorite-list] Missing photos on my ebay listing: here is the link !

2003-12-05 Thread Michel Franco


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| Dear List;
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| I have listed some nice individuals of the L3.8 I have recovered 2 years
ago
| in the Sahara, I call it Wadi Mellene after the name of the place where it
| was found. I missed to put online the photos but you can see them at
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| http://www.caillou-noir.com/wadimellenelist.htm
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| The following link give access to all my last auctions
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http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=kayunwarinclude=0since=-1sort=3rows=50
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| Best regards
|
| Michel FRANCO
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[meteorite-list] Odd Rock - Is it...??

2003-12-05 Thread MexicoDoug
Dear list, this is a first time posting, so please be patient with me as I still need to get the hang of recognizing the physical properties of meteorites that don't have fresh baked crusts or bright olivine and chondrules.

http://www.geocities.com/sstelenes/rocks.html

The above link is a page with three photos and a description of an odd "stone" from Mexico.  I don't think it is a meteorite.  (I have found some others I suspect to be, though.)  This particular one was given to me and the giver (finder) insisted it was a meteorite.  I don't think so, but it is certainly odd, does anyone know what it could be, with all these odd gunmetal gray square shapes?

Thanks.
Doug Dawn
Mexico


Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Rock - Is it...??

2003-12-05 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
not meteorite and I have received other emails from
you.

Matteo

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear list, this is a first time posting, so please
 be patient with me as I 
 still need to get the hang of recognizing the
 physical properties of meteorites 
 that don't have fresh baked crusts or bright olivine
 and chondrules.
 
 A

HREF=http://www.geocities.com/sstelenes/rocks.html;http://www.geocities.com/sstelenes/rocks.html/A
 
 The above link is a page with three photos and a
 description of an odd 
 stone from Mexico.  I don't think it is a
 meteorite.  (I have found some others I 
 suspect to be, though.)  This particular one was
 given to me and the giver 
 (finder) insisted it was a meteorite.  I don't think
 so, but it is certainly odd, 
 does anyone know what it could be, with all these
 odd gunmetal gray square 
 shapes?
 
 Thanks.
 Doug Dawn
 Mexico
 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Rock - Is it...??

2003-12-05 Thread joseph_town
Doug,

I think everyone will have fun with this. My guess is that its a batch of 
parts that were throw out the back door of a plating shop around 35 years ago.

Bill Kieskowski


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Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Rock - Is it...?? Pyrite Plus

2003-12-05 Thread E.J
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.geocities.com/sstelenes/rocks.html

The above link is a page with three photos and a description of an odd 
stone from Mexico. 
Welcome to the list Doug.

Thanks for posting the photos and providing size data.

The gunmetal gray would ordinarily suggest Galena an ore of lead which 
weathers to a white ashy luster.  However, the crystal habit doesn't 
match. It is not Galena (Pb lead) or, Fluorite(Ca F), nor is it a 
silicate(Si O). 

My impression is that it is an Iron Sulfide in the Pyrite class(Fe S)-- 
there are several variants.  We normally think of Pyrite as coming in 
cubes but when it is extensively twinned and intergrown like this 
specimen, it can look like it has triangular crystal faces.  When you 
truncate( chop off) the corner of a cube it forms a triangle. 

Otherwise-- but unlikely, this could be a psuedomorph.  That is-- 
another mineral replaces an original crystallized mineral after the 
pattern of the original form.  In fact on some of the faces I see a hint 
of  Hematite which is an Iron Oxide.The reverse appears to be 
mineralized with Hematite and Limonite(yellow colored) which is is a 
hydrated  Iron oxide.  Limonite is an amorphous catch-all mineral name 
for the residue left from decomposition of other Iron minerals. 

All considered, I believe this is a slightly weathered iron pyrite 
crystal cluster, aka Fools Gold. It doesn't have the normal brassy 
pyrite color because of the Hematite coating.  Not uninteresting but, 
not a meteorite as you already know.

Tis another case of anything strange must be a meteorite and is a 
common meteorwrong theme.

Regards,
Elton
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[meteorite-list] SNOE Satellite rentry coming in days

2003-12-05 Thread SpdEJones
*SNOE satellite to re-enter atmosphere in coming days*
*UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO-BOULDER NEWS RELEASE*
Posted: December 2, 2003
A $5 million University of Colorado at Boulder satellite dubbed the 
Little Satellite That Did now is expected to re-enter the atmosphere 
and burn up in early December following a successful six-year mission.

The Student Nitric Oxide Explorer, or SNOE, is carrying instruments that 
have measured nitric oxide in the upper atmosphere that affects Earth's 
ozone layer, the intensity of X-rays from the sun and ultraviolet light 
from Earth's aurora. Developed at CU-Boulder's Laboratory for 
Atmospheric and Space Physics by students, engineers and faculty, the 
mission has been controlled from LASP's CU Research Park facility 24 
hours a day by students and faculty since early 1998.

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0312/02snoe/



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[meteorite-list] STARDUST Update - December 5, 2003

2003-12-05 Thread Ron Baalke


Stardust Status Report
December 5, 2003

The Stardust team has had daily communications with the spacecraft in the past 
week. Telemetry relayed from the spacecraft indicates it remains in very 
good shape as it approaches its date with Comet Wild 2 on January 2, 2004.

Trajectory Correction Maneuver 10 was successfully executed on December 3. 
The burn duration was 118 seconds. This trajectory correction maneuver 
places Startdust on a trajectory that is a little inside the 300 kilometer 
flyby distance planned for Comet Wild 2. Three more trajectory correction 
maneuvers are planned during the next month to precisely control the 
flyby to 300 km +/- 50 km.

On December 4, the seventh and last of the bi-weekly optical navigation 
images was taken. Daily optical navigation imaging begins on Monday,
December 8th.

A JPL news release of NASA Spacecraft Pinpoints Where the Wild Thing Is 
was issued on December 1 which as picked up by other news organziations.
An article was published in the Los Angeles Times in the Kid's Corner section
on November 26 titled Giant Snowballs in Outer Space! (They're Actually Comets).
The Stardust mission was highlighted on Los Angeles KKJC 88.1 Jazz Radio on 
December 2. Space Place created an online Stardust activity called Tails of Wonder
which is available here:

http://spacespace.jpl.nasa.gov/stardust

Information on the present position and orbits of the Stardust spacecraft 
and comet Wild 2 may be found on the Where Is Stardust Right Now? web 
page located at: 

http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/scnow.html

For more information on the Stardust mission -- the first ever comet 
sample-return mission -- please visit the Stardust home page: 

http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov .



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[meteorite-list] NASA Scientists Use Radar to Detect Asteroid Force

2003-12-05 Thread Ron Baalke


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December 5, 2003
 
NEWS RELEASE: 2003-163

NASA Scientists Use Radar to Detect Asteroid Force

NASA scientists have for the first time detected a tiny but
theoretically important force acting on asteroids by measuring an
extremely subtle change in a near-Earth asteroid's orbital path. This
force, called the Yarkovsky Effect, is produced by the way an asteroid
absorbs energy from the sun and re-radiates it into space as heat. The
research will impact how scientists understand and track asteroids in
the future.

Asteroid 6489 Golevka is relatively inconspicuous by near-Earth
asteroid standards. It is only one half-kilometer (.33 mile) across,
although it weighs in at about 210 billion kilograms (460 billion
pounds). But as unremarkable as Golevka is on a celestial scale it is
also relatively well characterized, having been observed via radar in
1991, 1995, 1999 and this past May. An international team of
astronomers, including researchers from NASA's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., have used this comprehensive data set
to make a detailed analysis of the asteroid's orbital path. The team's
report appears in the December 5 issue of Science.

For the first time we have proven that asteroids can literally propel
themselves through space, albeit very slowly, said Dr. Steven
Chesley, a scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and leader of
the study.

The idea behind the Yarkovsky Effect is the simple notion that an
asteroid's surface is heated by the sun during the day and then cools
off during the night. Because of this the asteroid tends to emit more
heat from its afternoon side, just as the evening twilight on Earth is
warmer than the morning twilight. This unbalanced thermal radiation
produces a tiny acceleration that has until now gone unmeasured.

The amount of force exerted by the Yarkovsky Effect, about an ounce
in the case of Golevka, is incredibly small, especially considering
the asteroid's overall mass, said Chesley. But over the 12 years
that Golevka has been observed, that small force has caused a shift of
15 kilometers (9.4 miles). Apply that same force over tens of millions
of years and it can have a huge effect on an asteroid's orbit.
Asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter can actually
become near-Earth asteroids.

The Yarkovsky Effect has become an essential tool for understanding
several aspects of asteroid dynamics. Theoreticians have used it to
explain such phenomena as the rate of asteroid transport from the main
belt to the inner solar system, the ages of meteorite samples, and the
characteristics of so-called asteroid families that are formed when
a larger asteroid is disrupted by collision. And yet, despite its
profound theoretical significance, the force has never been detected,
much less measured, for any asteroid until now.

Once a near-Earth asteroid is discovered, radar is the most powerful
astronomical technique for measuring its physical characteristics and
determining its exact orbit, said Dr. Steven Ostro, a JPL scientist
and a contributor to the paper. To give you an idea of just how
powerful - our radar observation was like pinpointing to within a half
inch the distance of a basketball in New York using a softball-sized
radar dish in Los Angeles.

To obtain their landmark findings, the scientists utilized an advanced
model of the Yarkovsky Effect developed by Dr. David Vokrouhlický of
Charles University, Prague. Vokrouhlický led a 2000 study that
predicted the possibility of detecting the subtle force acting on
Golevka during its 2003 approach to Earth.

We predicted that the acceleration should be detectable, but we were
not at all certain how strong it would be, said Vokrouhlický. With
the radar data we have been able to answer that question.

Using the measurement of the Yarkovsky acceleration the team has for
the first time determined the mass and density of a small solitary
asteroid using ground-based observations. This opens up a whole new
avenue of study for near-Earth asteroids, and it is only a matter of
time before many more asteroids are weighed in this manner.

In addition to Chesley, Ostro and Vokrouhlický, authors of the report
include Jon Giorgini, Dr. Alan Chamberlin and Dr. Lance Brenner of
JPL; David Capek, Charles University, Prague, Dr. Michael Nolan,
Arecibo Observatory, Puerto Rico, Dr. Jean-Luc Margot, University of
California, Los Angeles, and Alice Hine, Arecibo Observatory, Puerto
Rico.

Arecibo Observatory is operated by Cornell University under a
cooperative agreement with the National Science Foundation and with
support from NASA. NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, DC
supported the radar 

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - December 1-4, 2003

2003-12-05 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
December 1-4, 2003

o Swirling Winds Reflected In Dunes (Released 1 December 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031201a.html

  These dark transverse and linear dunes are located in the floor of a 
  crater in the southern highlands. The dunes appear to follow the 
  flow of winds that circle around the crater floor, creating a swirling 
  pattern. Rather than swirling winds, however, the apparent arc may 
  simply be caused by a north to south shift in the relative strengths of
  two winds that influence these dunes.

o Disappearing Act (Released 2 December 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031202a.html

o Nili Fossae in Color (Released 3 December 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031203a.html

o Hematite Outlier and Sand Dunes (Released 4 December 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031204a.html

  This image shows a crater just south of the edge of the famous 
  hematite-bearing surface, which is visible in the context image 
  as a smooth area to the north. The crater has two features of 
  immediate note. The first is a layered mound in the north part 
  of the crater floor. This mound contains hematite, and it is an 
  outlying remnant of the greater deposits to the north that have 
  otherwise completely disappeared in this crater. The second feature 
  is a dune field in the center of the crater floor, with dark dunes 
  indicating winds from the northwest. The dunes grade into a dark 
  sand sheet with no coherent structure, indicating that the sand 
  layer thins out to the south and east.


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] Fw: TONIGHT ONLY! 20% off ANY BUY IT NOW ITEM ON EBAY!

2003-12-05 Thread Michael Cottingham




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[meteorite-list] Classic meteorites - my Top 10

2003-12-05 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello all,

On a quiet snowy night here in Pennsylvania I had a thought about classic 
meteorites. My first question was...what is a classic meteorite? Lots of 
answers I'm sure to that...but I came up with my own simple set of Rules.

Popular, nice material, in lots of collections, stays in good condition, rich 
history, can be acquired if desired, should stay a favorite, etc.  

Here is my own list and ranking.

Top 10 Classic Meteorites

1.  Sikhote-Alin:  an iron from a Russian fall in 1947
2.  Canyon Diablo: an iron found near Meteor Crater, USA
3.  Allende: a carbonaceous chondrite fall in Mexico in 1969
4.  Gibeon: an iron found in Africa
5.  Gao: a stone from a 1960 fall in Burkino Faso
6.  Murchison: an awesome carbonaceous fall in Australia in 1969
7.  Esquel: a pallasite type stony-iron found in South America
8.  Zagami: a 1962 Martian fall in Nigeria, Africa
9.  Henbury: an iron found in Australia
10. Vaca Muerta: a mesosiderite type stony-iron found in South America

Try your own list on us...  putting Gao at #5 is probably too high with my 
list.

John




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[meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes for December Now Up

2003-12-05 Thread Paul Harris
Happy Holidays Everyone!

MeteoriteTimes for December is now ready for viewing.

Special thanks to Martin, Calvin, Michael, Bob, Stu, Mark, Joel, Ann,
and everyone else who has contributed to MeteoriteTimes.
http://www.meteoritetimes.com/

Enjoy!

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Re: [meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes for December Now Up

2003-12-05 Thread MARK BOSTICK
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RE: [meteorite-list] Odd Rock - Is it...?? Pyrite Plus

2003-12-05 Thread Charles Viau
That site with the bogus meteorite has more bogus baggage. If you were
not running spybot or another active anti-spy filter on your computer
and you accessed that geocities site, you now have a sinister piece of
spyware on your system that not only eats up some of your cpu time, but
reports what web sites you access back to them.  You will need spybot or
similar to remove it.

CharlyV

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 http://www.geocities.com/sstelenes/rocks.html

 The above link is a page with three photos and a description of an odd

 stone from Mexico. 

Welcome to the list Doug.

Thanks for posting the photos and providing size data.

The gunmetal gray would ordinarily suggest Galena an ore of lead which

weathers to a white ashy luster.  However, the crystal habit doesn't 
match. It is not Galena (Pb lead) or, Fluorite(Ca F), nor is it a 
silicate(Si O). 

My impression is that it is an Iron Sulfide in the Pyrite class(Fe S)-- 
there are several variants.  We normally think of Pyrite as coming in 
cubes but when it is extensively twinned and intergrown like this 
specimen, it can look like it has triangular crystal faces.  When you 
truncate( chop off) the corner of a cube it forms a triangle. 

Otherwise-- but unlikely, this could be a psuedomorph.  That is-- 
another mineral replaces an original crystallized mineral after the 
pattern of the original form.  In fact on some of the faces I see a hint

of  Hematite which is an Iron Oxide.The reverse appears to be 
mineralized with Hematite and Limonite(yellow colored) which is is a 
hydrated  Iron oxide.  Limonite is an amorphous catch-all mineral name

for the residue left from decomposition of other Iron minerals. 

All considered, I believe this is a slightly weathered iron pyrite 
crystal cluster, aka Fools Gold. It doesn't have the normal brassy 
pyrite color because of the Hematite coating.  Not uninteresting but, 
not a meteorite as you already know.

Tis another case of anything strange must be a meteorite and is a 
common meteorwrong theme.

Regards,
Elton


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