Re: [meteorite-list] Re:The Italian Job Part II ;-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, do not post anything from that mental midget. Praise the meteorite Gods that he is OFF THIS LIST! Thank You, Fred Hall Ditto that Fred! I've had my fill. I hope it wasn't something I said. ;-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SALE - Several nice meteorites on ebay starting at $1.00 - SALE
Good Evening! I apologize for another sale posting but I'm making some room for Tucson so I've decided to pass these meteorites on to some lucky bidders - All starting at $1.00! Grayton - Florida Meteorite (H5) 6 gram slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2220181670 Ucera - Venezuela Meteorite (H5) 3.2 g w/crust http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2220182477 Waconda - Kansas Meteorite (L6) 0.5 grams http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2220182873 Ochansk Meteorite (H4 brecciated) 1.73g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2220183032 Sikhote-Alin Meteorite - NICE 40.8 grams http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2220183273 Gao-Guenie Meteorite (H5) 67.2 grams http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2220183655 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD nice 20 kg 99% crust OC Collection Cente rPiece. Look !
Dear List I have put on line a very nice 99 % black charcoal crust OC with lots of regmaglypts. Certanly a must for any collector willling to have a center piece for his collection. www.caillou-noir.com/BiGmeteorites.htm There is also a video of it, 5 Mb a bit long to download unless you have DSL. Have a look it deserve at least your visit. Offers welcome. Best regards. Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover
Ron List, I heard on the radio just prior to the malfunction announcement that the Spirit team were excited after finding what appeared to be a soft area of ground i.e. mud ! Was there any mention of this anywhere else ? Regards Ken O'Neill IMCA 9465 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Baalke Sent: 22 January 2004 17:54 To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover http://space.com/missionlaunches/spirit_silent_040122.html 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover By Leonard David space.com 22 January 2004 PASADENA, Calif. -- Mars Rover officials at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory announced that a serious anomaly occured onboard the robot Spirit Wednesday. Peter Theisinger, Mars Exploration Rover project manager, began Thursday's press conference by telling reporters that they had not received contact from Spirit, either through relays from the Mars Global Surveyor or the Mars Odyssey spacecraft now orbiting the red planet. German-built Alpha-Particle-X-Ray Spectrometer (APXS) is being used to determine the elemental chemistry of rocks and soils on Mars. The APXS performs elemental analyses of martian surface materials by directly touching a rock or patch of soil. Analyzing the elemental make-up of martian surface materials will provide scientists with information about crustal formation, weathering processes, and water activity on the red planet. However, Jennifer Trosper, mission manager of Surface Operations, interrupted the press briefing to announch that a signal had been recieved from the rover via its direct link to Earth. That said, no direct data had yet to be received from the robotic geologist. Theisinger explained that the situation remains serious and that no one single fault ... that we can conceive of can explain this anamoly. A communique' released late afternoon Wednesday from JPL indicated an unresolved issue with the status of the Spirit Mars rover. According to the statement, ground controllers were able to send commands to the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit early Wednesday and received a simple signal acknowledging that the rover heard them. However, ground controllers here did not receive expected scientific and engineering data from Spirit during scheduled communication passes during the rest of that martian day. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover
Wouldn't it be funny if it has fallen into a puddle... I did notice that around the time spirit went down, the Magnetometer networks were showing increased local activity, i.e solar auroral activity. Looking at www.spaceweather.com it appears that there have been a couple of decent sized flares/CME (Coronal mass ejections) recently, maybe this is what damaged Spirit? Mark Ford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2004 10:08 To: 'Ron Baalke'; Meteorite-List (E-mail) Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover Ron List, I heard on the radio just prior to the malfunction announcement that the Spirit team were excited after finding what appeared to be a soft area of ground i.e. mud ! Was there any mention of this anywhere else ? Regards Ken O'Neill IMCA 9465 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Baalke Sent: 22 January 2004 17:54 To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover http://space.com/missionlaunches/spirit_silent_040122.html 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover By Leonard David space.com 22 January 2004 PASADENA, Calif. -- Mars Rover officials at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory announced that a serious anomaly occured onboard the robot Spirit Wednesday. Peter Theisinger, Mars Exploration Rover project manager, began Thursday's press conference by telling reporters that they had not received contact from Spirit, either through relays from the Mars Global Surveyor or the Mars Odyssey spacecraft now orbiting the red planet. German-built Alpha-Particle-X-Ray Spectrometer (APXS) is being used to determine the elemental chemistry of rocks and soils on Mars. The APXS performs elemental analyses of martian surface materials by directly touching a rock or patch of soil. Analyzing the elemental make-up of martian surface materials will provide scientists with information about crustal formation, weathering processes, and water activity on the red planet. However, Jennifer Trosper, mission manager of Surface Operations, interrupted the press briefing to announch that a signal had been recieved from the rover via its direct link to Earth. That said, no direct data had yet to be received from the robotic geologist. Theisinger explained that the situation remains serious and that no one single fault ... that we can conceive of can explain this anamoly. A communique' released late afternoon Wednesday from JPL indicated an unresolved issue with the status of the Spirit Mars rover. According to the statement, ground controllers were able to send commands to the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit early Wednesday and received a simple signal acknowledging that the rover heard them. However, ground controllers here did not receive expected scientific and engineering data from Spirit during scheduled communication passes during the rest of that martian day. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re:The Italian Job Part II ;-)
You guys should all be ashamed of your selves.Ding-dong, theI seem to feel like singing too..how about a group hug? nutterdave :-[ DNAndrews wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, do not post anything from that mental midget. Praise the meteorite Gods that he is OFF THIS LIST! Thank You, Fred Hall Ditto that Fred! I've had my fill. I hope it wasn't something I said. ;-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars
Mars water found, more here : http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/index.html -Original Message- From: Bernhard Rendelius Rems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2004 12:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars Just a quick note that Mars Express has detected and verified frozen water on the mars south pole. Which is in my opinion the most important discovery of spaceflight so far. Bernhard The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose.
RE: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars
I find this picture of special interest: http://www.esa.int/export/externals/images/ob_22_reull_v.jpg I am just a layman interpreting this picture, but what else than water or a liquid could have created this river like structure? Bernhard . -Original Message- From: mark ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 1:34 PM To: Bernhard Rendelius Rems Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars Mars water found, more here : http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/index.html -Original Message- From: Bernhard Rendelius Rems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2004 12:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars Just a quick note that Mars Express has detected and verified frozen water on the mars south pole. Which is in my opinion the most important discovery of spaceflight so far. Bernhard The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose.
Re: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars
Super photo. The higher elevation features also look as if they has been eroded or washed down hill. best, ken Bernhard \"Rendelius\" Rems wrote: I find this picture of special interest: http://www.esa.int/export/externals/images/ob_22_reull_v.jpg I am just a layman interpreting this picture, but what else than water or a liquid could have created this river like structure? Bernhard . -Original Message- From:mark ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 1:34 PM To:Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars Mars water found, morehere : http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/index.html -Original Message- From: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:23 January 200412:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars Just a quick note that Mars Express has detected and verified frozen water on the mars south pole. Which is in my opinion the most important discovery of spaceflight so far. Bernhard The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose.
[meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars
Bernd, Superb! That just has to have been made by water!, you even can see small streams and a shoreline (when you zoom in). I think that's one the best photo of mars I have ever seen! Just imagine what is to come.. Mark Ford The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars
Hi all, It really loooks like an Earth desert view from the sky. Water flows dry beds ( Wadi, Oued, Wed, Ued, whatever you call them...) , cuesta like cliffs, I was wandering if we could find a similar desert on our planet with so many impact craters ! I would like to prospect these craters. Wonderfull photo for sure. Best regards Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars Bernd, Superb! That just has to have been made by water!, you even can see small streams and a shoreline (when you zoom in). I think that's one the best photo of mars I have ever seen! Just imagine what is to come.. Mark Ford -- -- The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ebay auctions
Hi list.I have 3 auctions ending in 7 hours.3 0'clock chicago time.3 unclassified nevada micro's.I also have 4 others going on.Awhole wiluna stone, nwa 788 half stone, nwa 803 halfstone, and small RIFLE, colorado iron fragment w/aml label.View at your liesure. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - new ebay listings
Hi, I listed some new auctions on ebay - some beauties too. Also I have some listings ending tomorrow and in the next few days. There are some new NWAs for auction which were recently classified - but not much grams offered for public. Please have a look at : http://members.ebay.de/aboutme/austromet/ Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stan Turecki
This is for Stan. I have received all of your e-mails and have replied to them many times. You must be having problems on your end, as I am not having any problems here, and yes, I will be in Tucson from the 5th. thru the 9th. of February. Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: 'Serious Anomaly'
Well Mark, (pun intended) My wife suggests NASA examine me as she says I exhibit the same 'Serious Anomaly' as Spirit when it comes to staring at a Mars rock... I have no idea what's she's talking about I communicate just fine... when I want to. Impatiently waiting close-ups, Mike __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status - January 23, 2004
Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. News Release: 2004-29January 23, 2004 Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status NASA's Spirit rover communicated with Earth in a signal detected by NASA's Deep Space Network antenna complex near Madrid, Spain, at 12:34 Universal Time (4:34 a.m. PST) this morning. The transmissions came during a communication window about 90 minutes after Spirit woke up for the morning on Mars. The signal lasted for 10 minutes at a data rate of 10 bits per second. Mission controllers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., plan to send commands to Spirit seeking additional data from the spacecraft during the subsequent few hours. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Additional information about the project is available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- -- MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. News Release: 2004-30 January 23, 2004, 6:30 am PST Updated Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status The flight team for NASA's Spirit received data from the rover in a communication session that began at 13:26 Universal Time (5:26 a.m. PST) and lasted 20 minutes at a data rate of 120 bits per second. The spacecraft sent limted data in a proper response to a ground command, and we're planning for commanding further communication sessions later today, said Mars Exploration Rover Project Manager Pete Theisinger at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. The flight team at JPL had sent a command to Spirit at 13:02 Universal Time (5:02 PST) via the NASA Deep Space Network antenna complex near Madrid, Spain, telling Spirit to begin transmitting. Meanwhile, the other Mars Exploration Rover, Opportunity is on course to land halfway around Mars from Spirit, in a region called Meridiani Planum, on Jan. 25 (Universal Time and EST; Jan. 24 at 9:05 p.m. PST). JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Additional information about the project is available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov and from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Express Sees Its First Water - Scientific Results
http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM8ZB474OD_0.html N° 06-2004 - Paris, 23 January 2004 Mars Express sees its first water - scientific results European Space Agency Mars Express, ESA's first mission to Mars, will reach its final orbit on 28 January. It has already been producing stunning results since its first instrument was switched on, on 5 January. The significance of the first data was emphasised by the scientists at a European press conference today at ESA's Space Operations Centre, Darmstadt, Germany. I did not expect to be able to gather together - just one month after the Mars Orbit Insertion on 25 December - so many happy scientists eager to present their first results, said Professor David Southwood, ESA Director of Science. One of the main targets of the Mars Express mission is to discover the presence of water in one of its chemical states. Through the initial mapping of the south polar cap on 18 January, OMEGA, the combined camera and infrared spectrometer, has already revealed the presence of water ice and carbon dioxide ice. This information was confirmed by the PFS, a new high-resolution spectrometer of unprecedented accuracy. The first PFS data also show that the carbon oxide distribution is different in the northern and southern hemispheres of Mars. The MaRS instrument, a sophisticated radio transmitter and receiver, emitted a first signal successfully on 21 January that was received on Earth through a 70-metre antenna in Australia after it was reflected and scattered from the surface of Mars. This new measurement technique allows the detection of the chemical composition of the Mars atmosphere, ionosphere and surface. ASPERA, a plasma and energetic neutral atoms analyser, is aiming to answer the fundamental question of whether solar wind erosion led to the present lack of water on Mars. The preliminary results show a difference in the characteristics between the impact of the solar wind area and the measurement made in the tail of Mars. Another exciting experiment was run by the SPICAM instrument (an ultraviolet and infrared spectrometer) during the first star occultation ever made at Mars. It has simultaneously measured the distribution of ozone and water vapour, which has never been done before, revealing that there is more water vapour where there is less ozone. ESA also presented astonishing pictures produced with the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) . They represent the outcome of 1.87 million km2 of Martian surface coverage, and about 100 gigabytes of processed data. This camera was also able to make the longest swath (up to 4000 km) and largest area in combination with high resolution ever taken in the exploration of the Solar System. This made it possible to create an impressive picture 24 metres long by 1.3 metre high, which was carried through the conference room at the end of the press event by a group of 10-year-old children. Mrs Edelgard Bulmahn, German Minister for Research and Education, who is also chair of the ESA Council at ministerial level, said at the press conference: Europe can be proud of this mission: Mars Express is an enormous success for the European space programme. For further information please contact: ESA Media Relations Office Tel: +33(0)1.53.69.7155 Fax: +33(0)1.53.69.7690 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status - January 23, 2004
Well that is great news. It seems there is a glitch more than a fatal error. I will attend a special party tomorrow night at the LPL at the University of Arizona, they are going to have some TVs and live uplink with JPL for the landing tomorrow night. This will be quite exciting and I sure hope that all goes well. I am taking a slice of NWA 2046 Martian meteorite, so we can all hold a piece of Mars while the spacecraft is landing there tomorrow. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status - January 23, 2004 Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. News Release: 2004-29January 23, 2004 Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status NASA's Spirit rover communicated with Earth in a signal detected by NASA's Deep Space Network antenna complex near Madrid, Spain, at 12:34 Universal Time (4:34 a.m. PST) this morning. The transmissions came during a communication window about 90 minutes after Spirit woke up for the morning on Mars. The signal lasted for 10 minutes at a data rate of 10 bits per second. Mission controllers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., plan to send commands to Spirit seeking additional data from the spacecraft during the subsequent few hours. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Additional information about the project is available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- -- MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. News Release: 2004-30 January 23, 2004, 6:30 am PST Updated Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status The flight team for NASA's Spirit received data from the rover in a communication session that began at 13:26 Universal Time (5:26 a.m. PST) and lasted 20 minutes at a data rate of 120 bits per second. The spacecraft sent limted data in a proper response to a ground command, and we're planning for commanding further communication sessions later today, said Mars Exploration Rover Project Manager Pete Theisinger at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. The flight team at JPL had sent a command to Spirit at 13:02 Universal Time (5:02 PST) via the NASA Deep Space Network antenna complex near Madrid, Spain, telling Spirit to begin transmitting. Meanwhile, the other Mars Exploration Rover, Opportunity is on course to land halfway around Mars from Spirit, in a region called Meridiani Planum, on Jan. 25 (Universal Time and EST; Jan. 24 at 9:05 p.m. PST). JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Additional information about the project is available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov and from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 'Serious Anomaly' Silences Mars Spirit Rover
I heard on the radio just prior to the malfunction announcement that the Spirit team were excited after finding what appeared to be a soft area of ground i.e. mud ! Was there any mention of this anywhere else ? The 'Magic Carpet' area? See here: http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/spirit_gusev_040116.html It kind of looks like mud, but it can't be because the atmospheric pressure and temperatures are too low for mud to be on the surface. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] more on Allende
Hello!, Ive never been to Allende but I think it all depends how you approach to the local people in town, I heard that mexican mafia would get angry if you go hunting fo meteorites, but I think its just a urban legend. I f you go t the town with a friendly attitude, i bet you wont have any problems, I say this by experience, people in small towns in Mexico are very friendly and are willing to help if you need so!, its just the way of how you approach to them. I dknt really think an expdition is dangerous, you can say you are searching for fossils or other stuff and thus find meteorites along. From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] more on Allende Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:49:49 -0800 Hello Gregory and List, I heard the same thing about a dealer that will remain nameless who went down there and paid a dollar a gram to the farmers who were finding them. Since the farmers were only being paid a fraction of this amount by lets just say local people in charge the farmers refused to sell them at the lower rate after this. The local people in charge were selling them for a dollar a gram to dealers before the gringo barged in there and over paid unknowingly doubling the wholesale price for everybody else. Now you cannot get Allende for less than $2.00 a gram wholesale and at that price you have to buy several kilos. If anybody decides to go down there be careful because of the bad situation left behind by an unknowing US dealer. All the best - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] more on Allende [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A couple list members have been thinking about making a hunting trip, if you are interested I will let you know the names. There is a history of trouble for gringos in the Allende strewnfield area, if I remember correctly. Wasn't there some story about a meteorite-hunter who was attacked and/or disappeared, something like that? Not sure if it's an urban legend or if based in fact. Gregory J. Gregory Wilson 2118 Wilshire Blvd. #918 Santa Monica, CA 90403 _ Find high-speed net deals comparison-shop your local providers here. https://broadband.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Russell's meteorites - presentation
Hi all, Firstly, apologies for not telling you all about this sooner; it's just been a crazy week with all the drama on and around Mars, my phone's never stopped ringing with schools asking me to give them talks featuring all the latest news from Beagle, Spirit, Opportunity and Mars Express. But finally, a week after the big day, I have a chance to tell you about the presentation to Russell of his meteorites last Friday afternoon. It was a wonderful afternoon. Armed with a bag bulging full of meteorites from the people on this List I arrived at the school an hour before the arranged 1pm visit of local press reporter and photographer, and who was the first person I saw in the school lobby? Russell himself. And it was quite a shock. Last time I saw him, in November, he looked very ill indeed - pale skin, slumped, very ill looking... but the *new* Russell is a picture of health in comparison - much healthier complexion, eyes much brighter and, best of all, a huge, beaming smile :-) Still in his wheelchair, but much, much happier, and he greeted me with a cheery hello and big grin when he saw the bag slung over my shoulder. We had a quick chat, then I went to wait in the staff room with the teachers. All twelve teachers in the school are female, so it wasn't too much of an ordeal waiting... :-) Eventually the photographer arrived, and we did a photo-shoot for the local papers - the school, and Russell's parents, having been very keen to get Russell in the paper as part of his therapy, cheering him up and encouraging his recovery etc - which went very, very well. Russell was a real trouper, holding up meteorites for the camera and beaming proudly and happily even tho he was getting rather tired by the end of it. The photographer actually had him *laughing* as he took his pics, joined by myself for a couple, then a couple of his friends, and finally the Head Teacher (US = Principal) who was literally having to hold back tears she was so moved by it all, and by Russell's changed spirit. Then my reporter friend Andrea arrived, and interviewed Russell for ten minutes or so - and all the time he refused to put down the meteorites, I'm sure he's still holding them right now... With all the media stuff done, we - that's myself, Russell, the head teacher and other teachers - went up the corridor and into a large nearby classroom so I could speak to the rest of the kids in the school, explaining to them how all these amazing meteorites had come in for Russell from all around the world. He sat on the sidelines, still smiling, still clutching his precious gifts, and at the end all the other kids gave him a huge round of applause and crowded round him to look at his new treasures, leaving one of the red-eyed teachers to mouth me a silent "thank you"... ...but that thank you was appropriate for all the people who sent meteorites to Russell, not for me, all I did was take in the mail. So, thanks guys, good job. In the past week, Russell's story has been featured in several local papers, which has, I'm told, cheered him up and energised him even more. If anyone would like to see a copy of the photo (just excuse my ugly mug in it, I asked them NOT to use one of me, keep it just about Russell, but I don't know, maybe the others didn't come out or something... ) and the article which accompanied it, please email me and I'll send copies as attachments. I can't put them on my website because it's playing up, but I'll happily pass on scans to anyone who wants to see them. The head teacher has asked me to pass on her personal thanks and best wishes to everyone who was so generous with their time and meteorite collections, too. I passed on the letters to Russell too, and I know he is planning to write to everyone who sent him something, but don't hold your breath, he's still ill and his days are rather full with various treatments, therapies etc... Just keep an eye on your (e) mail boxes, one day there'll be a note there, you'll see. So, there you go. Russell has his meteorites, and everyone who sent one should feel very, very proud that they helped make a very sick little boy smile again. Thanks everyone, Stu P.S. On a more personal note, people who've generously sent me samples and specimens for my own Outreach work will, I hope, be pleased to hear that they are all on display in a local museum right now, as build-up publicity for my astronomical society's huge "MARS DAY" exhibition event next Saturday. Thanks guys. - S
[meteorite-list] SwRI Suborbital Science Payload Gets The Goods on Mercury, Searches for Vulcanoids
SwRI suborbital science payload gets the goods on Mercury, searches for Vulcanoids Southwest Research Institute January 23, 2004 A new major scientific payload flew in space last week after launching aboard a NASA suborbital Black Brant rocket. The payload, consisting of a telescope/spectrometer combination and an image-intensified imaging system, successfully explored the ultraviolet spectrum of the planet Mercury and also searched for the long-sought belt of small bodies called Vulcanoids that may lie even closer to the Sun than Mercury. Southwest Research Institute (SwRI) provided the payload and is responsible for data analysis. The rocket flew a textbook flight and got the goods on our calibration star (Zeta Ophiuchus), Mercury and the Moon -- everything in the flight plan, says Dr. Alan Stern, mission principal investigator and director of the SwRI Space Studies Department. The secondary payload, the so-called VULCAM (Vulcanoid camera) imager, also worked like a champ, searching for Vulcanoids while the spectrograph studied Mercury itself. The payload's main instrument is a large (almost 500 pound), highly sensitive, ultraviolet spectrograph designed to observe objects too close to the Sun for the Hubble Space Telescope and other orbital instruments to view. The new SwRI instrument has been dubbed Big Dog by its inventors, owing to the large size of the payload. We built Big Dog specifically to fill a niche -- exploring objects in the deep inner solar system, explains SwRI's Dr. David Slater, project scientist for the instrument and leader of the field team that took the payload to White Sands for the launch preparations and flight. This flight proves we can now examine objects -- like Venus, Mercury and bright comets close to the Sun -- that are normally lost in the Sun's glare to orbiting telescopes, on a routine basis. This is a real asset for planetary astronomy and for certain kinds of astrophysics as well. VULCAM scientist Dr. Dan Durda, also of SwRI, added, VULCAM is a derivative of an imaging instrument we have flown many times on F-18 aircraft, but which has the potential to become an even more powerful tool for searching for Vulcanoids from 260+ kilometer (165+ mile) altitudes that NASA suborbital missions can reach. VULCAM also performed flawlessly. Never before in history has it been possible to obtain an ultraviolet spectrum of Mercury, says Stern. With the data gathered last week, we expect to reveal new details about this mysterious inner planet's surface composition and, hopefully, to help the upcoming NASA MESSENGER mission to Mercury plan its ultraviolet observations. Primary funding for this mission came from NASA, with supplemental support from The Planetary Society. The NASA Wallops Island Flight Facility managed the mission and provided both the launch vehicle and the pointing, telemetry and recovery systems required to support the flight. The Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy at the University of Colorado at Boulder also collaborated on the mission. Vulcanoids are a hypothesized population of small asteroids that is exceedingly difficult to observe from the ground because of its proximity to the Sun. Researchers have made previous ground-based searches for Vulcanoids during total solar eclipses, during the brief twilight period after sunset before the Vulcanoids themselves set or just before sunrise after the Vulcanoids have peaked above the horizon. Editors: An image of the rocket is available at www.swri.org/press/bdpr.htm. More information on the Wallops Island Flight Facility is available at www.wff.nasa.gov, the Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy is at casa.colorado.edu, the MESSENGER (Mercury Surface, Space Environment, Geochemistry and Ranging) mission is at messenger.jhuapl.edu and The Planetary Society is at www.planetary.org. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Sky Is The Limit
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/spotlight/spirit/a10_20040120.html The Sky Is The Limit Jet Propulsion Laboratory January 20, 2004 Believe it or not, some of the scientists on the Mars Exploration Rover Science team don't really care too much about rocks - or for that matter anything on the surface of Mars. They have higher ambitions. Their passion lies in the skies - the martian skies - and, from the hazy glow of the atmosphere, they pull precious pieces of information. Two of these sky gazers are Mike Wolff and Mike Smith. They are brimming with energy because, in the next few sols, Spirit will be doing more atmospheric study than she's done since landing. It's a bit of a running joke that the atmospheric team gets left out, laughs the jovial pair. Let's be honest, this is predominantly a geology mission - water and rocks. The atmospheric team is also a little outnumbered, There are very few of us atmospheric scientists who want to spend Spirit's time looking at the sky. The vast majority of the team wants to look at the ground. All the joking aside, Mike and Mike know the importance of good atmospheric data, explaining that it is crucial for ground-lookers to know what they are seeing. For instance, scientists study the light that is reflected from each surface to determine what minerals are in the rocks on Mars. In order to make accurate calculations, they must understand the atmosphere through which the light traveled before reaching the rocks and reflecting back. They DO need us, smiles Wolff. Our team provides information about the amount of dust and water vapor in the atmosphere, allowing other teams to make sense of what they're seeing. Beyond a supportive role, the atmospheric team is trying to answer big questions about the climate on Mars that will help all future Mars exploration. We need a complete understanding of the environment we're working with - what conditions do we need to prep for? How much dust is there, and will it interfere with machinery? What are the temperature extremes that can interfere with the successful operation of instruments? The more we understand the weather on Mars, the more likely it is that a Mars mission will have success, explains Smith in a serious moment. The term weather on Mars can mean a lot of different things, but the atmospheric team is harvesting hypotheses from four main elements: air temperature, water-ice clouds, water vapor, and dust. Air Temperature Using the Mini-TES instrument, the atmospheric team can determine the temperature of the Martian atmosphere at various heights from the surface to about two kilometers (about 1.2 miles) above the surface. Orbiters and previous landed missions could not provide this near-surface information as precisely as Mini-TES can, and both Mikes are excited to have it. All the major weather systems on Mars are affected by this lower area, so it's really fantastic to be seeing this detailed data, says Smith. These temperature readings assist engineers as they assess the rovers' heath. Engineers need to know if things are heating up on Mars so that they can prepare to keep the rover cool. Water Vapor Water-vapor is a fancy atmospheric term for humidity, jokes Wolff. If you've ever been in the south in the summer, you know what water vapor is. Mars does have some water vapor, but not much. In fact, Earth has about 10,000 times more water in its atmosphere than Mars does. The amount of water vapor in the atmosphere is important to scientists because it is a key part of the current climate and potentially gives clues about the distribution of water under the surface. Water-Ice Clouds Like the high, wispy, cirrus clouds we see here on earth, water vapor in Mars' atmosphere freezes and forms into cirrus-like clouds on Mars. By studying the quantity, location, and longevity of these clouds, scientists can better understand how water is exchanged between the martian surface and atmosphere. While orbiters have provided us with many great images of cloud-cover on Mars, they are limited by the time of day of their orbit and can only reveal what the clouds look like in a particular spot at a particular time. With Spirit and Opportunity we can watch the clouds throughout the day and monitor how they change, explains Wolff. Dust Scientists operating a rover on the surface of Mars have one major concern when it comes to dust: accumulation. The planet is covered in the fine, powder-like material and daily winds blow it across the planet forming dunes and ripples. Too much of this dust on the solar panels could cause them to work less efficiently. The atmospheric team monitors how much dust is in the atmosphere and helps the engineering team evaluate the performance of Spirit's solar panels. During the mission, Spirit will point its Panoramic camera and Mini-TES instruments towards the sky, giving the atmospheric team another chance to shine. Most of the
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - January 19-23, 2004
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES January 19-23, 2004 o Meridiani Planum (Released 19 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040119a.html o Meridiani Planum (Released 20 January 2004 http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040120a.html o West Meridiani Crater (Released 21 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040121a.html o Western Meridiani (Released 22 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040122a.html o Meridiani, Here We Come! (Released 23 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040123a.html All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars
I was rather hoping they'd find whiskey. I wouldn't freeze up at night and would give list members another reason to go to mars. Howard Wu Bishop, CA PS. Looks more likely that I'll be going to Tuscon as my co-pilot has given me a go. mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd,Superb!That just has to have been made by water!, you even can see smallstreams and a shoreline (when you zoom in). I think that's one the best photo of mars I have ever seen!Just imagine what is to come..Mark FordThe information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/orlegally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it isaddressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status.Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete thismessage from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person,copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose.__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
[meteorite-list] Re: Collection Liqiudation
- Original Message - From: Bruce D Wegmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 3:07 PM Subject: Collection Liqiudation Thanks for all the inquires, and especially to the guys who picked up some real bargains. Still need to do a bit more fundraising, so here's a final listing, with some final pre-Tucson revisions. No trades now, just straight cash... Allende slices 69 grams$400 40 grams 250 20 grams 100 Bjurbole 516 grams 1800 Crab Orchard 67 grams 2200 Esquel149 grams 2000 Gao687 grams950 Jilin slices4 grams 15 33 grams 130 Juancheng 125 grams450 Naryilco end 650 grams 2350 Tuxtuac frag 309 grams 1500 Vaca Muerta 116 grams450 eucrite inclusion And for those of you looking to blow an inheritance or Lotto winnings: Allende Complete individual, more than 85% fusion crust, classic angular blocky shape, minimal edge spallation, prominent skid mark...1434 grams $6000 Johnstown Angled corner cut, natural and polished surfaces, 40% fusion crust, mostly on largest surface, distinctive brecciated texture, 136 grams...$10,000 Camel Donga Awesome, jet-black, fully-crusted individual, skid marked, looks like it fell yesterday, a full pound of one of the prettiest eucrites ever..454 gr $9000 Murchison Oriented individual, prominent flight markings and flow ridge. Fractured surface on nose opens nice window to interior. Pristine specimen, evidently maintained oriented flight all the way to the ground! 107 grams $8500 Imilac End piece, cut from 8.1kg individual. Perfect flat cut, sanded but not polished, still visually dazzling. Not a trace of rust after 14 years. Natural exterior show much fusion crust. 1449 grams $12,500 Norton County Exterior fragment, classic snow-white matrix, many large enstatite crystals. About 15% fusion crust, covering two well-formed thumbprint marks. 117.5 grams $5,000 Pics of all of these are available on request, of course...serious inquiries only, please. Bruce Wegmann __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars
Hello Howard list, I'd experienced Bourbon frozen at -52°C ! Never triedwith whiskey. my 2 cents, Michel - Original Message - From: Howard Wu To: meteorite-list Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars I was rather hoping they'd find whiskey. I wouldn't freeze up at night and would give list members another reason to go to mars. Howard Wu Bishop, CA PS. Looks more likely that I'll be going to Tuscon as my co-pilot has given me a go. mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd,Superb!That just has to have been made by water!, you even can see smallstreams and a shoreline (when you zoom in). I think that's one the best photo of mars I have ever seen!Just imagine what is to come..Mark FordThe information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/orlegally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it isaddressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status.Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete thismessage from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person,copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose.__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
[meteorite-list] Opportunity Closes in on the Red Planet
http://space.com/missionlaunches/opportunity_update_040123.html Opportunity Closes in on the Red Planet By Leonard David space.com 23 January 2004 PASADENA, Calif. -- Early Jan. 25, at about 12:05 a.m. EST, NASA's second Mars Exploration Rover -- Opportunity -- will arrive on Mars. It's headed for a region known as Meridiani Planum, halfway around the planet from where its sister robot, the Spirit rover now resides. What Opportunity might find at that landing site could be the geological mother lode at Mars that scientists seek -- a type of mineral that cries out: Water was here! As was the case three weeks ago, engineers are again faced with risk, worry, and high anxiety in getting another robot successfully down on Mars. One thing for sure: It doesn't get any easier the second time around. Good dose of edginess I am almost as nervous as I was for Spirit, admitted Rob Manning, Mars Exploration Rover (MER) Entry, Descent and Landing Lead at JPL. Even though Meridiani is an easier landing site in some respects - less winds, less slopes, and the rocks aren't as bad. I'm going to be almost as nervous, he told SPACE.com . In reconstructing how Spirit made it down at Gusev Crater, Manning has reason to retain a good dose of edginess. We had a wild day in landing Spirit, Manning said. An unexpectedly large wind gust played havoc with the spacecraft's approach and touchdown at Gusev. That burst of wind pushed Spirit's parachute and other landing gear in a horizontal direction toward a crater. An inertial measurement unit, computer software, special camera gear, and small rockets onboard Spirit worked in concert to counter what could have been a deadly drift into the walls of the crater -- all within a handful of seconds, Manning noted. I don't know if we would have been toast. On the other hand, it's an experiment I don't think I would want to perform, Manning added. Once cut free from its parachute, retro-rocket engines, and long bridle, the set of airbags with the Spirit rover tucked inside fell onto Mars from a height of about 31 feet (9.5 meters). The airbags bounced 28 times across the martian landscape before coming to a full stop. Glue gun and duct tape At the end of the day, Spirit's safe and sound landing comes down to one engineering rule of thumb: margin. Margin equates to elbow room. There is a delicate balance between margins and how close-to-the-edge engineers feel is tolerable. But then add in the vagaries of the Mars environment, well, those uncertainties can give you a bad day. From what I see, we have a lot of margin. We are confident that we made the right design choices in our rover landing system to make it reliable, Manning said. But you never know. If I could land a thousand of these things, then I could tell you. We're still in the infant stages of this stuff. Lessons learned from getting Spirit down and dirty on Mars are being applied to the landing of Opportunity. For example, Opportunity's parachute is to be deployed higher and five seconds earlier than planned over Meridiani Planum. Secondly, gas generators to inflate the airbag landing system have been tweaked to reduce their warm-up time during the plummet toward Mars' surface. Opportunity's landing system is good to go, Manning said. Our mission is not to do engineering, although it's fun, exciting, and a lot of work. It doesn't matter if you took a glue gun and duct tape to get to Mars. As long as you get there safely - and we get good science for the mission - that's the most important thing, he explained. Colorful territory At Meridiani Planum, the Opportunity rover becomes a stranger in a strange land. This site will truly be an alien landscape. It will not look like anywhere we have been before on Mars, said James Rice, a Mars Exploration Rover scientist from the Arizona State University in Tempe. Rice said he expects Opportunity to drop into colorful territory, perhaps a deeper, darker reddish brown with splashes of gray. All that pesky bright dust that we are familiar with will be absent, Rice told SPACE.com . The chances of encountering fantastic layered sediments will be much higher in Meridiani than at Gusev Crater, he explained. These layers may be visible in small mesas and buttes. Moreover, the landscape appears to have been stripped by the wind. There will also be far fewer rocks than at Gusev, roughly half the rock abundance seen in the images returned by Spirit, Rice said. We may also see dune forms and small impact craters depending on where we put down in the landing ellipse, Rice added. Gray hematite Opportunity's targeted landing area is an ellipse about 53 miles (85 kilometers) long and 6.8 miles (11 kilometers) wide. This zone is within a large region near the planet's arbitrarily designated prime meridian, or line of zero longitude. Planum means plains. So the name suits the territory. Meridiani Planum is one of the smoothest, flattest places
[meteorite-list] OT / AD / Trade; Misc. JPL stuff
Hello List, I have some odds and end's JPL stuff that I do not need. If anyone's into this kind of stuff, I would like to trade it for a individual meteorite (except Nantans) I am not looking for anything big, rare or expensive, just another one for my collection. I have a Mars Observer pin, Mars pathfinder pin and a JPL tie clip. Pictures are available on request. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/040123recovery.html Spirit remains in 'critical' condition BY WILLIAM HARWOOD STORY WRITTEN FOR CBS NEWS SPACE PLACE USED WITH PERMISSION January 23, 2004 The crippled Spirit rover remains in critical condition on the surface of Mars, engineers said today, the victim of ongoing electronic seizures that have caused its central computer to reboot itself more than 60 times over the past two days. Engineers successfully coaxed the rover to beam back limited engineering data during two brief communications sessions and they were relieved to discover the spacecraft's power system was providing the necessary life support. But Spirit's state of mind was clearly - and unusually - different in both sessions, ruling out any simple explanations for what might have gone wrong. We have a serious problem, said project manager Pete Theisinger. The fact that we've got a vehicle that we believe is stable for an extensive period of time will give us time to work that problem. We can command it to talk to us and even though we get perhaps limited information, we do get good information and that helps us work through the problem. I expect that we will get functionality back out of this rover. I think the chances that it will be perfect again, I would think, are not good. The chances that it will not work at all, I think are also low. I think we're somewhere in that broad middle and we need to understand the problem to find out exactly where we are. Spirit went on the blink Wednesday as it was carrying out a procedure to calibrate drive motors used by its thermal emission spectrometer. Prior to that moment, everything was operating normally. But some event, possibly a hardware failure of some sort, threw the rover's electronic brain for a loop. Since then, the spacecraft has been in a state of limbo, responding in unusual fashion to anxious flight controllers. This morning, we sent an early beep to the spacecraft and did not get a response, Theisinger said. As we were preparing to send a second, the spacecraft talked to us. We got very fractional frames and then moved very quickly to ask it to speak to us for 30 minutes at 120 bits per second. We got 20 minutes of transmission in that occasion, which was a single frame of engineering data repeated. Then we repeated that full sequence of events and we got about 15 minutes of engineering data at 120 bits per second where the frames were updated for 15 minutes and then for the second 15 minutes we had nothing but fill data. He said Spirit has been in a processor reset loop of some type, mostly since Wednesday, we believe, where the processor wakes up, loads the flight software, uncovers a condition that would cause it to reset. But the processor doesn't do that immediately. It waits for a period of time - at the beginning of the day it waits for 15 minutes twice and then for the rest of the day it waits for an hour - and then it resets and comes back up. Complicating the work to track down the problem, the indications we have on two occasions is that the thing that causes the reset is not always perceived to be the same, Theisinger said. We are confused by that, but that's the facts as we presume them to be right now. The reset sequence, similar to repeatedly unplugging one's personal computer and forcing it to restart, began Wednesday morning on Mars when a calibration of the spectrometer motors ended prematurely. An anomaly team has been formed to study the telemetry and to decide what readings to request from Spirit to help narrow down the range of possible failures. I think we should expect that we will not be restoring functionality to Spirit for a significant period of time, Theisinger said, I think many days, perhaps a couple of weeks, even in the best of circumstances, from what we see today. In the meantime, he said, Spirit remains in critical condition. We do not know to what extent we can restore functionality to the system because we don't know what's broke, Theisinger said. We don't know what started this chain of events and I think, personally, that it's a sequence of things, and we don't know, therefore, the consequences of that. I think its difficult at this very preliminary stage to assume we did not have some type of hardware event that caused this to start and therefore, we don't know to what extent we can work around that hardware event and to what extent we can get the software to ignore that hardware event if that's what we eventually have to do. We've got a long way to go here with the patient in intensive care. But we have been able to establish that we can command it, and we have been able to establish that it can give us information and we have been able to establish that the power system is good and we're thermally OK and those are all very, very important pieces of information. We are a long, long way from being done here, but we do have serious problems and our ability to
[meteorite-list] MGS Photos of the Spirit Landing Site
Check out these images of the Spirit landing site taken by Mars Global Surveyor: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/23/index.html Visible in the photos are the Spirit lander, the parachute and backshell, the heatshield impact, and bounce marks. Spirit actually bounced in and out of a small crater on the 4th bounce. The heatshield landed near the rim of a large crater, and it looks like it may have gone into the crater. This crater, incidently, is the same crater that the rover is slated to visit, at a distance of 250 meters away. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition
I have two theories, Spirit was hit my a meteorite, although a small target on a big planet, it is more likely than the next theories, Spriit was attacked by Martians! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/040123recovery.html Spirit remains in 'critical' condition BY WILLIAM HARWOOD STORY WRITTEN FOR CBS NEWS SPACE PLACE USED WITH PERMISSION January 23, 2004 The crippled Spirit rover remains in critical condition on the surface of Mars, engineers said today, the victim of ongoing electronic seizures that have caused its central computer to reboot itself more than 60 times over the past two days. Engineers successfully coaxed the rover to beam back limited engineering data during two brief communications sessions and they were relieved to discover the spacecraft's power system was providing the necessary life support. But Spirit's state of mind was clearly - and unusually - different in both sessions, ruling out any simple explanations for what might have gone wrong. We have a serious problem, said project manager Pete Theisinger. The fact that we've got a vehicle that we believe is stable for an extensive period of time will give us time to work that problem. We can command it to talk to us and even though we get perhaps limited information, we do get good information and that helps us work through the problem. I expect that we will get functionality back out of this rover. I think the chances that it will be perfect again, I would think, are not good. The chances that it will not work at all, I think are also low. I think we're somewhere in that broad middle and we need to understand the problem to find out exactly where we are. Spirit went on the blink Wednesday as it was carrying out a procedure to calibrate drive motors used by its thermal emission spectrometer. Prior to that moment, everything was operating normally. But some event, possibly a hardware failure of some sort, threw the rover's electronic brain for a loop. Since then, the spacecraft has been in a state of limbo, responding in unusual fashion to anxious flight controllers. This morning, we sent an early beep to the spacecraft and did not get a response, Theisinger said. As we were preparing to send a second, the spacecraft talked to us. We got very fractional frames and then moved very quickly to ask it to speak to us for 30 minutes at 120 bits per second. We got 20 minutes of transmission in that occasion, which was a single frame of engineering data repeated. Then we repeated that full sequence of events and we got about 15 minutes of engineering data at 120 bits per second where the frames were updated for 15 minutes and then for the second 15 minutes we had nothing but fill data. He said Spirit has been in a processor reset loop of some type, mostly since Wednesday, we believe, where the processor wakes up, loads the flight software, uncovers a condition that would cause it to reset. But the processor doesn't do that immediately. It waits for a period of time - at the beginning of the day it waits for 15 minutes twice and then for the rest of the day it waits for an hour - and then it resets and comes back up. Complicating the work to track down the problem, the indications we have on two occasions is that the thing that causes the reset is not always perceived to be the same, Theisinger said. We are confused by that, but that's the facts as we presume them to be right now. The reset sequence, similar to repeatedly unplugging one's personal computer and forcing it to restart, began Wednesday morning on Mars when a calibration of the spectrometer motors ended prematurely. An anomaly team has been formed to study the telemetry and to decide what readings to request from Spirit to help narrow down the range of possible failures. I think we should expect that we will not be restoring functionality to Spirit for a significant period of time, Theisinger said, I think many days, perhaps a couple of weeks, even in the best of circumstances, from what we see today. In the meantime, he said, Spirit remains in critical condition. We do not know to what extent we can restore functionality to the system because we don't know what's broke, Theisinger said. We don't know what started this chain of events and I think, personally, that it's a sequence of things, and we don't know, therefore, the consequences of that. I think its difficult at this very preliminary stage to assume we did not have some type of hardware event that caused this to start and therefore, we don't know to what extent we can work around that hardware event and to what extent we can get the software to ignore that hardware event if that's what we
[meteorite-list] Mars Express Commissioning and Early Results
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=34487 Mars Express Commissioning and Early Results European Space Agency 23 Jan 2004 Overall Mission Status The Mars Express orbiter was successfully inserted into orbit around Mars on 25 December 2003. Since then several manoeuvres have been performed using the spacecraft?s main engine (plane turn manoeuvre and apocentre reductions) and several further manoeuvres will be performed, using the on-board thrusters, until the mapping orbit is reached on 28 January 2004. The Mars Express spacecraft has continued to show nominal performance over the past week with the payload and subsystems operating as expected. The spacecraft's main engine has been isolated as it will not be used anymore. The Beagle-2 lander was separated from the Mars Express orbiter on 19 December and is assumed to have landed in Isidis Planitia on 25 December. However, attempts to communicate with the lander have so far been unsuccessful. Meanwhile, the orbiter scientific payload commissioning has started and the payload instruments started returning their first scientific measurements from Mars orbit. During this early phase, mostly dedicated to instrument checkout and calibration, high-resolution stereo and colour images and high-resolution spectral measurements of the planet are being acquired. The radio science experiment has been obtaining its first scientific data from Mars (bistatic radar measurements), and the MARSIS radar, which is scheduled for deployment at the end of April 2004, will soon be conducting further checkout activities. The early orbits of Mars Express, until about mid-February 2004, represent the best opportunity for optimised observing conditions (illumination, targets of interest, distance to the Sun, lack of eclipses) and, therefore, maximum science return. The planning of the next payload commissioning activities and science operations are progressing nominally. Payload activity timelines are being prepared for the next few weeks, with the goal of optimising the scientific return while keeping within the limits of the power budget. Science Results 19 January 2004 HRSC The first science result showed the Valles Marineris canyon system in stunning detail. Valles Marineris is a giant canyon system stretching 4000 km across the surface of the planet. At its start and end it is 2 km deep and in the middle it is 7 km deep and 600 km wide. 23 January 2004 OMEGA Analysis of data acquired over the southern polar cap on 18 January has revealed the existence of trapped water ice along with carbon dioxide ice. PFS PFS data has shown that there is an inbalance to the distribution of carbon dioxide on Mars. HRSC HRSC has now imaged an area of the Martian surface covering 1.87 million km2. This corresponds to 100 Gigabytes of data! The camera images a single track up to 4000 km in length (roughly the size of the United States from coast to coast). A series of stunning images have been released revealing river channels, dust falling over a cliff edge and erosion features. SPICAM A unique measurement was made with SPICAM. By observing a star twice, once through the atmosphere and once with no atmosphere present, it was possible to analize the Martian atmosphere. This has enabled measurements to be made on the distribution of the ozone and water vapour revealing that there is more water vapour where there is less ozone. Orbit and Surface Coverage Information The orbit of the Mars Express spacecraft is very stable. Several more apocentre reduction manoeuvres will be conducted in order to reach the selected mapping orbit on 28 January. The early scientific planning is driven by the opportunity to take images and spectral measurements of a number of targets of interest under excellent observing conditions. The current observations cover a variety of essential Martian surface features and targets of interest: volcanic terrains, chaotic terrains near Valles Marineris, Isidis Planitia with the Beagle-2 landing site, and the Spirit landing site (Gusev Crater). Later on, once the mapping orbit is achieved, the focus of science data acquisition will be extended to global coverage, mosaic and map construction, and high-resolution imaging and spectral mapping of selected local surface targets. Scientific Payload Status and Measurements The status and performance summarised in the following table Instrument ActivitiesStatus/Performance ASPERA Calibrations (completed) Nominal HRSC/SRCNadir-pointed stereo and colour imaging Nominal MARSIS None Checkout next week OMEGA Nadir-pointed hyperspectral measurements Nominal PFS Nadir-pointed spectral measurements Nominal SPICAM Nadir and star occultation observations Nominal During the past week a number of nadir-pointed and inertial observations were made. Stereo and colour
Re: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition
I have two theories, Spirit was hit my a meteorite, although a small target on a big planet, it is more likely than the next theories, Spriit was attacked by Martians! Or maybe Spirit was attacked by Martians with meteorites. :-) Ron __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MGS Photos of the Spirit Landing Site
Either the server is too busy or the link is wrong :-( Looks like the server is busy. Here's are some alternate links: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20040123a/R1303051sub_a100_br2.gif http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20040123a/R1303051sub_a100.gif Check out these images of the Spirit landing site taken by Mars Global Surveyor: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/23/index.html Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition
Hehe. Personally, I think that this reboot-loop is caused by a short-circuit somewhere. BTW - one of the astonishing findings of ESA is that Mars seems to be much warmer than thought. They expected -120°C to -30°C, but instead they found the temperature is +4°C. Don't know where this temperature was encountered, but if it's true, it seems that we have a LOT to learn about Mars (and that conditions are more favorable to former (or existing?) life than thought. I read somewhere that the orbit of Mars is much more changing over time than that of earth, and that Mars could have been much warmer a long time ago because of that. Hell, I wish I could be born in 20 years from now :-) Bernhard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Baalke Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:25 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition I have two theories, Spirit was hit my a meteorite, although a small target on a big planet, it is more likely than the next theories, Spriit was attacked by Martians! Or maybe Spirit was attacked by Martians with meteorites. :-) Ron __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars
Howard and fellow Tucson attendees, Glad to hear you might be going to Tucson Howard. I too have decided NOT TO STAY home wondering what everyone is doing out there that week, so I will be there for the festivities for the first time(5th to 8th). Take it easy on me guys...me being a PA hill-Billie and all. John PS Howard, good luck with your motel/hotel search...it was painful for me. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Russell's meteorites - presentation
Stuart, Thanx for the wonderful story about Russell. Mental health as it relates to physical health for all of us is such a monumental aspect for good living. All contributors to the venture should be very proud. I was not one, and wish I had sent something. Maybe another chance will come around to do so for him or someone else. Thanx again for sharing, John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. NEWS RELEASE: 2004-031 January 23, 2004 Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit Some members of the flight team for NASA's Mars Exploration Rovers are preparing for this weekend's landing of the second rover, Opportunity, while others are focused on trying to restore the first rover, Spirit, to working order. We should expect we will not be restoring functionality to Spirit for a significant amount of time -- many days, perhaps two weeks -- even in the best of circumstances, said Peter Theisinger, rover project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Spirit transmitted data to Earth today for the first time since early Wednesday. The information about the rover's status arrived during three sessions lasting 10 minutes, 20 minutes and 15 minutes. Engineers will be examining it overnight and developing a plan for obtaining more on Saturday morning. Spirit's flight software is not functioning normally. It appears to have rebooted the rover's computer more than 60 times in the past three days. A motor that moves a mirror for the rover's infrared spectrometer was partway through an operation when the problem arose, so the possibility of a mechanical problem with that hardware will be one theory investigated. We believe, based on everything we know now, we can sustain the current state of the spacecraft from a health standpoint for an indefinite amount of time, Theisinger said. That will give the team time to work on the problem. Meanwhile, Spirit's twin, Opportunity, will reach Mars at 05:05 Universal Time on Jan. 25 (12:05 a.m. Sunday EST or 9:05 p.m. Saturday PST) at a landing site on the opposite side of the planet from Spirit. Opportunity's landing site is on plains called Meridiani Planum within an Oklahoma-sized outcropping of gray hematite, a mineral that usually forms in the presence of water. Scientists plan to use the research instruments on Opportunity to determine whether the gray hematite layer comes from sediments of a long-gone ocean, from volcanic deposits altered by hot water, or from other ancient environmental conditions. Analysis of Spirit's descent through Mars' atmosphere for its landing at Gusev has contributed to a decision by flight controllers to program Opportunity to open its parachute higher than had been planned earlier, said JPL's Dr. Wayne Lee, chief engineer for development of the rover's descent and landing systems. The Mars Orbiter Camera on NASA's Mars Global Surveyor orbiter has taken an image of Spirit's landing region that shows the spacecraft's lander platform on the ground. The jettisoned parachute, backshell and heat shield are also visible, noted Dr. Michael Malin of Malin Space Science Systems, San Diego, lead investigator for the orbiter's camera and a member of the rover science team. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Images and additional information about the project are available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov and from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit
Ron, Do you know if the rover was still parked in front of the Adirondack named rock? I was just curious where it was and what was it doing. Someone mentioned a rumor was that it drove into a soft spot. I thought it was parked by the rock. John MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. NEWS RELEASE: 2004-031 January 23, 2004 Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit Some members of the flight team for NASA's Mars Exploration Rovers are preparing for this weekend's landing of the second rover, Opportunity, while others are focused on trying to restore the first rover, Spirit, to working order. We should expect we will not be restoring functionality to Spirit for a significant amount of time -- many days, perhaps two weeks -- even in the best of circumstances, said Peter Theisinger, rover project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Spirit transmitted data to Earth today for the first time since early Wednesday. The information about the rover's status arrived during three sessions lasting 10 minutes, 20 minutes and 15 minutes. Engineers will be examining it overnight and developing a plan for obtaining more on Saturday morning. Spirit's flight software is not functioning normally. It appears to have rebooted the rover's computer more than 60 times in the past three days. A motor that moves a mirror for the rover's infrared spectrometer was partway through an operation when the problem arose, so the possibility of a mechanical problem with that hardware will be one theory investigated. We believe, based on everything we know now, we can sustain the current state of the spacecraft from a health standpoint for an indefinite amount of time, Theisinger said. That will give the team time to work on the problem. Meanwhile, Spirit's twin, Opportunity, will reach Mars at 05:05 Universal Time on Jan. 25 (12:05 a.m. Sunday EST or 9:05 p.m. Saturday PST) at a landing site on the opposite side of the planet from Spirit. Opportunity's landing site is on plains called Meridiani Planum within an Oklahoma-sized outcropping of gray hematite, a mineral that usually forms in the presence of water. Scientists plan to use the research instruments on Opportunity to determine whether the gray hematite layer comes from sediments of a long-gone ocean, from volcanic deposits altered by hot water, or from other ancient environmental conditions. Analysis of Spirit's descent through Mars' atmosphere for its landing at Gusev has contributed to a decision by flight controllers to program Opportunity to open its parachute higher than had been planned earlier, said JPL's Dr. Wayne Lee, chief engineer for development of the rover's descent and landing systems. The Mars Orbiter Camera on NASA's Mars Global Surveyor orbiter has taken an image of Spirit's landing region that shows the spacecraft's lander platform on the ground. The jettisoned parachute, backshell and heat shield are also visible, noted Dr. Michael Malin of Malin Space Science Systems, San Diego, lead investigator for the orbiter's camera and a member of the rover science team. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Images and additional information about the project are available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov and from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Crusted GB individual?
Hello has anyone ever found a 2 or 3 gram crusted Gold Basin? If so, would it be the regular GB or one of the others meteorite found in that area? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status - January 23, 2004
Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. News Release: 2004-033 January 23, 2004 5 p.m. PST Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status NASA's Spirit rover did not go to sleep today even after ground controllers sent commands twice for it to do so. Shortly before noon, controllers were surprised to receive a relay of data from Spirit via the Mars Odyssey orbiter. Spirit sent 73 megabits at a rate of 128 kilobits per second. The transmission included power subsystem engineering data, no science data, and several frames of fill data. Fill data are sets of intentionally random numbers that do not provide information. Spirit had not communicated successfully through Odyssey since the rover's communications difficulties began on Wednesday. Spirit's twin, Opportunity, will reach Mars at 05:05 Universal Time on Jan. 25 (12:05 a.m. Sunday EST or 9:05 p.m. Saturday PST) at a landing site on the opposite side of the planet from Spirit. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Additional information about the project is available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov and from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit
All, If I may...Spirit is still positioned in front of Adirondack. It was not hit by a meteorite, suffer a coronal mass ejection radiation event or any other type of external incident. Personal telecon w/JPL/MER managers has revealed that they DO NOT know what has happened and are trying through fault tree analysis coupled with engineering/health telemetry from Spirit to recreate the precipitating event using the almost one for one rover they have for a test bed. Power and thermal protection systems are currently nominal. JPL is trying to command Spirit to power down its computer and go into sleep mode which it has not done for the past several nights. This is causing Spirit to use more power than expected and is causing a drain on the batteries. The spacecraft is alive, being commanded from Earth and has sent back over 75MB of data today when Odyssey flew over. The team is trying to put the pieces together in such a way as to cause no harm to Spirit. They have plenty of time to analyze and fix this anomaly... Remember, every major spacecraft mission has had its glitches and our team is pretty darn good at solving them. Time and telemetry will tell. All the best Greg Redfern JPL NASA Solar System Ambassador http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ambassador/index.html International Meteorite Collectors Association #5781 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org/ Member Meteoritical Society http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:26 PM To: Ron Baalke Cc: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit Ron, Do you know if the rover was still parked in front of the Adirondack named rock? I was just curious where it was and what was it doing. Someone mentioned a rumor was that it drove into a soft spot. I thought it was parked by the rock. John MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. NEWS RELEASE: 2004-031 January 23, 2004 Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit Some members of the flight team for NASA's Mars Exploration Rovers are preparing for this weekend's landing of the second rover, Opportunity, while others are focused on trying to restore the first rover, Spirit, to working order. We should expect we will not be restoring functionality to Spirit for a significant amount of time -- many days, perhaps two weeks -- even in the best of circumstances, said Peter Theisinger, rover project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Spirit transmitted data to Earth today for the first time since early Wednesday. The information about the rover's status arrived during three sessions lasting 10 minutes, 20 minutes and 15 minutes. Engineers will be examining it overnight and developing a plan for obtaining more on Saturday morning. Spirit's flight software is not functioning normally. It appears to have rebooted the rover's computer more than 60 times in the past three days. A motor that moves a mirror for the rover's infrared spectrometer was partway through an operation when the problem arose, so the possibility of a mechanical problem with that hardware will be one theory investigated. We believe, based on everything we know now, we can sustain the current state of the spacecraft from a health standpoint for an indefinite amount of time, Theisinger said. That will give the team time to work on the problem. Meanwhile, Spirit's twin, Opportunity, will reach Mars at 05:05 Universal Time on Jan. 25 (12:05 a.m. Sunday EST or 9:05 p.m. Saturday PST) at a landing site on the opposite side of the planet from Spirit. Opportunity's landing site is on plains called Meridiani Planum within an Oklahoma-sized outcropping of gray hematite, a mineral that usually forms in the presence of water. Scientists plan to use the research instruments on Opportunity to determine whether the gray hematite layer comes from sediments of a long-gone ocean, from volcanic deposits altered by hot water, or from other ancient environmental conditions. Analysis of Spirit's descent through Mars' atmosphere for its landing at Gusev has contributed to a decision by flight controllers to program Opportunity to open its parachute higher than had been planned earlier, said JPL's Dr. Wayne Lee, chief engineer for development of the rover's descent and landing systems. The Mars Orbiter Camera on NASA's Mars Global Surveyor orbiter has taken an image of Spirit's landing region that shows
[meteorite-list] Macovich Auction
List: It's great to be back reading the list after a long absence and I look forward to seeing my friends in Tucson. I believe that there is a Macovich auction as usual this year, but I do not see the lots on the Macovich site. Where are they? Walter Sullivan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Macovich Auction
There will be no Auction by Darryl Pitt this year. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Walter Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Macovich Auction List: It's great to be back reading the list after a long absence and I look forward to seeing my friends in Tucson. I believe that there is a Macovich auction as usual this year, but I do not see the lots on the Macovich site. Where are they? Walter Sullivan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Crusted GB individual?
I have one that looks dark just like a licorice Jelly Belly. It was too small for the U of A to justify classifying it, so do not know if it is a regular GB or something else. But I like it. We filed off one end and it could be any of the above. Twink Monrad At 07:56 PM 1/23/2004 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello has anyone ever found a 2 or 3 gram crusted Gold Basin? If so, would it be the regular GB or one of the others meteorite found in that area? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Macovich Auction
Thanks for the info. Guess I'll be able to buy some dinosaur fossils too this year. Walter Greg redfern wrote: Welcome back Walter...always a pleasure Greg Redfern JPL NASA Solar System Ambassador http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ambassador/index.html International Meteorite Collectors Association #5781 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org/ Member Meteoritical Society http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Sullivan Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Macovich Auction List: It's great to be back reading the list after a long absence and I look forward to seeing my friends in Tucson. I believe that there is a Macovich auction as usual this year, but I do not see the lots on the Macovich site. Where are they? Walter Sullivan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list