Re: [meteorite-list] Virus warning!!
Hello, Dave and the list, the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is from my sign. Have recived same kind of failure notices from; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] That doesnt mean, the computers using these addresses are infected, Mydoom just pics up random addresses from the WAB (Windows adress-book file) from the infected computers and uses them as the sender. It can also collect the fake sending addresses / addresses to senddfrom the following files in the infected computer; Mail Propagation The worm collects addresses where to send itself from Windows' Address Book and from files with extension: pl adb tbb dbx asp php sht htm txt Peer-to-Peer Spreading The worm will look up form the Windows' Registry the value containing the users Kazaa shared folder, and it will copy itself to that location with a filename composed from the following list: winamp5 icq2004-final activation_crack strip-girl-2.0bdcom_patches rootkitXP office_crack nuke2004 The summary and disinfection of Mydoom can be found from; http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/novarg.shtml take care, pekka s DNAndrews wrote: Hi Mark and list, (Sorry Art I know we're not supposed to talk about this on the list). Looks like it's already made the list. I just got a returned message or failure notice for a message I never sent to a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". The address was spoofed to make me look like the sender. The body.pif file was the intended payload. I traced the header information to the real sender: Received: from sgrelayg1.core.theplanet.net (195.92.195.145) by indium.smartgroups.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2004 16:56:18 - Received: from aputeaux-115-1-3-220.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr ([193.251.71.220] Bruno Drouet is the owner of this domain. Not sure if he's the owner of the IP address though. Beware out there and update your virus programs! Dave -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic
Hi all, My link below shows a little NWA meteorite I cut in half. The total weight after cutting is 3.8 grams. Could it be an R chondrite? In the scan the ruler scale shows 1/16's of an inch. http://www.meteoritelabels.com/NWA2.jpg It's slow at my sign shop right now, so I have time to cut meteorites these days. I'll be cutting a large 1.2 kilo Estherville fragment with some nice black fusion crust soon. Anyone need a piece? Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] God Bless Challenger.
Dear List members; Today is the one year anniversary of the Challenger's last flight. God Bless the crew members that gave all, and the families that have given their most precious. A moment of pause and remembrance seems to be fitting for me. Sincerely, Dave Freeman __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Preventing rust
Hi I had a problem a while back with a couple of ordinary chondrites rusting. I followed the advise offered on Meteorites Australia and would like to recommend the process to other people. http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/oddsends/ironrust.html After polishing the specimens using distilled water I simply got an old jam jar, filled it with methylated spirit, added about a table spoon of caustic soda (both available from DIY stores), added the meteorite and left it for about 10 days. This process has, so far, made the specimens much more stable. When carrying out this process be sure to wear disposable gloves. Skin and caustic soda don't mix too well. AubreyBT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80
[meteorite-list] Australian Scientists Claim Conclusive Proof of Microfossils in Mars Meteorite
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1260storyid=816517 It's life, but not as we know it By SIMON BENSON The Daily Telegraph (Australia) January 29, 2004 AUSTRALIAN scientists claim to have conclusive proof that unusual microscopic fossils found in a four billion-year-old meteorite from Antarctica are bacterial life from Mars. And in an extraordinary piece of research to be published today, they claim that the find makes it probable that life on Earth first began on Mars. NASA scientists who have reviewed the research claimed that the work by Sydney biophysicist Dr Tony Taylor confirmed their theories, which many in the scientific community have doubted since they were first put forward in 1996. We have a better match than a fingerprint, the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation's Dr Taylor said. His research is published today in the highly regarded Journal of Microscopy. They are the original material . . . they are the real McCoy . . . they were produced by Mars, he said. The bacteria that we studied had 11 characteristics identical to the fossilised bacteria in the meteorite, demonstrating beyond reasonable doubt that the features in the meteorite had a biological origin. I say that NASA made the enormous discovery, I have just confirmed it . . . I just filled in the last piece of the jigsaw. Our research shows the structures found in the NASA meteorite were more than likely made by bacteria present on Mars four billion years ago - before life even started on Earth. In 1996, NASA scientists claimed the structures inside the ALH84001 meteorite from Mars, which crashed into Earth in 1984, were bacterial life. However, many scientists have since claimed that the structures could easily have been formed by inorganic chemical processes. Now, new species of bacteria found in mud from Queensland have been discovered to have the same bio-signatures as the material which was found inside the meteorite. Using a world-first breakthrough in electron microscopy developed by Dr Taylor and his collaborator Professor John Barry from Queensland University, it was possible to peer further into the structures than has been done previously, revealing magnetites inside the fossil and those inside the newly discovered normal earthly bacteria were identical. Living organisms arrange carbonate crystals - called magnetites as they are magnetically aligned like a compass - inside their cells in unique ways. Professor Malcom Walter, an astrobiologist from Macquarie University, said he was very sceptical about the new claims. There has been a long history of trying to interpret bacteria inside meteorites as life, Mr Walter said. NASA scientist at the AMES Research Centre Professor Imre Friedmann - who did the original work on the meteorite said: When I received my e-mail from Tony with a copy of his new research paper I realised that it contained no less than an elegant confirmation of our findings which were doubted by many of our scientific colleagues. We found microscopic structures in the Martian meteorite ALH84001 which, we suggested, have features that are tell-tale signs of biological origin and could have been produced only by bacteria. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dog Helped Confirm Life in Mars Meteorite
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/28/1075088091398.html Canine sleuth sniffs out a slice of heaven on earth By Richard Macey The Age (Australia) January 29, 2004 [Image] Tamarind, the canine scientific sleuth, and her master Tony Taylor. Together they may have made a breakthrough in collecting evidence of life on Mars. History may record that Tamarind the dog helped confirm there was once life on Mars. While five space probes, including two rovers, explore the Red Planet, a Sydney scientist's pet pooch may have found the evidence so many have been seeking. When NASA announced in 1996 that a meteorite recovered from Antarctica appeared to contain fossils of ancient Martian bacteria, there were sceptics. The rock, blasted off Mars 16 million years ago, fell to Earth 13,000 years ago. Inside, scientists found chemical structures that looked like the work of organisms. But there was a problem. Sceptics argued one of the structures could only form at very high temperatures far too hot for life. Now two Australians, Tony Taylor, of the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation at Lucas Heights, and Queensland University's Professor John Barry, say they have discovered an identical structure in dozens of different bacteria thriving in the ooze around Queensland's Moreton Bay. To find the earthly organisms, Dr Taylor ventured to Moreton Bay with Tamarind, part dingo, part kelpie. She's my research assistant, he said, explaining he had taught her to sniff out sediments where the right bacteria lived. The stuff smells like sewage. After setting Tamarind loose, she veered off the road, into the bush and five minutes later came back covered in mud. When Dr Taylor examined 82 different bacteria from the spot Tamarind found, as well as two other nearby sites, one a golf course, he discovered they contained 11 characteristics also found in the Mars fossils, including the structure other scientists claimed could only form under scorching heat. That is an extraordinary match, he said, adding that the Mars fossils were now far more convincing than T-rex skeletons. Our research shows that the structures found in the NASA meteorite were more than likely made by bacteria present on Mars 4 billion years ago, before life even started on Earth. A biophysicist with the nuclear research centre, he said the problematic structure, resembling cartilage around tiny backbone discs and vertebra, had never been studied in fine detail in earthly bacteria because electron microscopes had insufficient resolution. But he found a way, with the help of ultraviolet light, to steady the organisms. Dr Taylor predicted that while sceptics would not give up, they would go quiet. The director of Macquarie University's Centre for Astrobiology, Malcolm Walter, remained a sceptic yesterday. That's putting it mildly, he said, warning that just because something looked like life did not mean it was once alive. It would be very interesting if they have seen these structures (in bacteria), but it would be far from convincing, said Professor Walter, who had not yet read the scientists' full report. Their findings, crediting Tamarind's work, will be published today in the Journal of Microscopy. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 30th Martian Meteorite Found in Algeria: NWA 2046
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/nwa2046.html 30th MARTIAN METEORITE FOUND IN ALGERIA: NWA 2046 Dr. Anthony Irving University of Washington January 26, 2004 The total number of unpaired Martian meteorites now stands at 30 following the recovery in September 2003 and subsequent confirmation of a new, very primitive type of shergottite. The 63 gram stone, found near Lakhbi in Algeria, was obtained by veteran collectors Mike Farmer and Jim Strope, and studied collaboratively by former NASA scientists Drs. Theodore Bunch and Anthony Irving and their colleagues Drs. James Wittke and Scott Kuehner at Northern Arizona University and the University of Washington in Seattle. This sample is very distinctive in containing large crystals of both olivine and orthopyroxene which exhibit a preferred alignment, probably as a result of crystal growth and transport by flow within a magma conduit beneath the surface of Mars. Additional minerals in the finer grained matrix of the rock include pigeonite, maskelynitized plagioclase, smaller olivine grains, chromite, ilmenite, pyrrhotite, merrillite and apatite. Renewed study of another Martian meteorite, NWA 1195, now confirms that it is of the same petrologic type as NWA 2046, and also has a strong preferred crystal orientation, which can account for its puzzling elongated shape. Both stones can be termed olivine-orthopyroxene-phyric shergottites, and rival the Antarctic olivine-phyric shergottite Yamato 980459 as the most magnesium-rich samples known from Mars, and therefore those most likely to give direct information about the nature of the Martian mantle, from which they presumably were derived by partial melting hundreds of millions of years ago. Further information on NWA 2046 will be presented at the 35th Lunar and Planetary Conference in Houston in March 2004, which promises to be a major venue for scientific discussion in light of the successful landing of NASA's Spirit rover on Mars. Scientists are eager to compare the compositions of the surface rocks to be analyzed at both Gusev Crater and Meridiani Planum with those of all the Martian meteorites, which represent samples excavated from various depths beneath the surface of Mars. [Image] Image 1: Complete NWA 2046 stone. Photo © Michael Farmer and Jim Strope. [Image] Image 2: Cross section of NWA 2046 main mass. Photo © Michael Farmer and Jim Strope. [Image] Image 3: Thin section image (width 5 mm) in cross-polarized light of NWA 2046 showing olivine phenocrysts (green with dark brown mantles) and two parallel prismatic orthopyroxene phenocrysts (pale yellow, at lower left and right) in a finer grained groundmass of twinned pigeonite (blue, magenta and yellow), maskelynite (black) and opaque oxides. Photo © Anthony Irving and Scott Kuehner. [Image] Image 4: False-color backscattered electron image of NWA 2046 showing strong compositional zoning in olivine phenocrysts (blue to yellow), orthopyroxene microphenocrysts (blue), and groundmass pigeonite (green and red), maskelynite (black), olivine, chromite and ilmenite (all light yellow). Photo © Anthony Irving and Scott Kuehner. [Image] Image 5: False-color backscattered electron image of NWA 2046 showing prismatic orthopyroxene phenocryst and microphenocrysts (blue) mantled by pigeonite (green), with groundmass pigeonite (orange and yellow), olivine (white), maskelynite (black), chromite and ilmenite (both white). Photo © Anthony Irving and Scott Kuehner. [Image] Image 6: False-color backscattered electron image of a trapped melt inclusion within an olivine phenocryst in NWA 2046. The once totally molten inclusion engulfed by the growing olivine crystal now contains crystals of aluminous diopside, possible amphibole, and skeletal merrillite, as well as glass. Photo © Anthony Irving and
[meteorite-list] Ebay misspellings
Greetings list members that have an interest in Ebay, I send this article along FYI.Spell check and copies of meteorite reference books and good pics generally complete the deal Terry StarMeteorites Updated: 08:06 AM EST In Online Auctions, Misspelling in Ads Often Spells Cash By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO, The New York Times knifes, Art Deko vases, camras, comferters and saphires. They do get bidders, but rarely very many. Often the buyers are those who troll for spelling slip-ups, buying items on the cheap and selling them all over again on eBay, but with the right spelling and for the right price. John H. Green, a jeweler in Central Florida, is one of them. Mr. Green once bought a box of gers for $2. They were gears for pocket watches, which he cleaned up and put back on the auction block with the right spelling. They sold for $200. "I've bought and sold stuff on eBay and Yahoo that I bought for next to nothing" because of poor spelling or vague descriptions, he said. David Scroggins, who lives in Milwaukee, also searches for misspellings. His company provides entertainment for weddings and corporate events, and microphone systems for shows at Wisconsin's casinos. He has bought Hubbell electrical cords for a 10th of their usual cost by searching for Hubell and Hubbel. And he now operates his entire business by laptop computers, having bought three Compaqs for a pittance simply by asking for Compacts instead. No one knows how much misspelling is out there in eBay land, where more than $23 billion worth of goods was sold last year. The company does flag common misspellings, but wrong spellings can also turn up similar misspellings, so that buyers and sellers frequently read past the Web site's slightly bashful line asking, by any chance, "Did you mean . . . chandelier?" One unofficial survey an hour's search for creative spellings turned up dozens of items, including bycicles, telefones, dimonds, mother of perl, cuttlery, bedroom suits and loads of antiks. Contacted, the sellers were often surprised to hear that they had misspelled their wares. Ms. Marshall, who lives in Dallas, said she knew she was on shaky ground when she set out to spell chandelier. But instead of flipping through a dictionary, she did an Internet search for chandaleer and came up with 85 or so listings. She never guessed, she said, that results like that meant she was groping in the spelling wilderness. Chandelier, spelled right, turns up 715,000 times. Some experts say there is no evidence that people are spelling worse than they ever did. But with the growth of e-mail correspondence and instant messaging, language has grown more informal. And much as calculators did for arithmetic, spell checkers have made good spelling seem to quite a number of people like an obsolete virtue. Not that spell checkers are used by nearly everyone. Indeed, experts say the Internet with its discussion boards, blogs and self-published articles is a treasure trove of bad spelling. "Before the Internet came along, poor spelling by the public was by and large not exposed," said Paige P. Kimble, the director of the National Spelling Bee. Now, though, "we are becoming acutely aware of what a challenge spelling is for us." Sandra Wilde, author of the 1992 book "You Kan Red This!: Spelling and Punctuation for Whole Language Classrooms K-6," said language served a variety of purposes, so that in some settings it might make sense to skip punctuation or to speak in slang. She likens instant messaging, for example, to notes passed at the back of the classroom when the teacher's back is turned: there is no premium on proper spelling. "On something like eBay though," she said, "it matters.' Henry Gomez, vice president for corporate communications at eBay, said the company did not generally hear from sellers who misspell, and had no way of gauging how many sales might have involved misspelled listings. But some sellers clearly bear in mind the potential for disaster when preparing their advertisements. Warren Lieu of Houston, who was selling hunting and fishing knives on eBay recently, covered all the bases: his listing advertised every sort of alphabetic butchery, including knifes and knive. Mr. Lieu, a computer programmer, keeps a list of common misspellings, including labtop for laptop and Cusinart for Cuisinart. His strategy of listing multiple spellings, he said, is based on his experience as a buyer. "I'm a bad speller myself," he said. So his mistakes in searching for items led him to realize that he could buy up bargains. "I'd go ahead and deliberately misspell it when I searched for items," he said. Jim Griffith, whose official title at eBay is dean of eBay education, teaches 40 to 50 seminars a year around the country. Although the auction house flags common misspellings online, Mr. Griffith said, the most common question he gets is, "When will eBay get a spell checker?" His answer? "You go to a store called a bookstore, and you buy something
[meteorite-list] Catalog done - ad
Greetings all you Tucson Dogs! I have just added the last entry in my on line catalog. All those entering are encouraged to get their items to the auction between 5:30 and 6:30. That is also the time for anyone to bring last minute items. They must be of quality (and, preferably, no minimum/reserve). Buyers are encouraged to arrive by 6:45 at the latest to have the bare minimum of time to check out all the incredible goodies. Bidding will commence at 7:30 PM sharp. Get directions from my web page. Also, Meteorites A to Z revised will be available from the Jensen Bros, so, save the cost of mailing - and lots of getting to know people IN THE FLESH that we can normally only relate to by their email on the list! Check it all out at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionOLCat.html I leave for Tucson Fri there are only about 36 hrs left to get your absentee bids in (by Midnight, Thursday, Pacific Time). I can be reached by cell phone from Fri, Jan 30 through Sun, Feb. 8, only at (619) 204-4138. Before and after that at home at (619) 286-4837. (of course, you can email me at this email address - but I likely will NOT be checking email while in Tucson). I'm gettin' Tucson Fever and lookin' foreword to seeing y'all! Best wishes, Michael -- When Jesus said Love your enemies I think he probably meant don't kill them. Anonymous -- AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg -- - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm -- Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Red Rovers: From Dry Lakes On Earth To Dry Lakes On Mars
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/mars-mers-04zg.html Red Rovers: From Dry Lakes On Earth To Dry Lakes On Mars by Gray Creech for Dryden Flight Research Center January 21, 2004 Edwards AFB - Before NASA's first successful Mars Exploration Rover landed on the planet Mars January 3, 2004, a rover prototype helped refine navigational software at a unique site on Earth that replicates Martian terrain. When NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) engineers in Pasadena, Calif., started looking for suitable, Mars-like terrain to try out the navigation software aboard an earthbound prototype rover, they picked the edge of a dry lakebed at NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif. NASA Dryden and Edwards are located at Rogers Dry Lake, a hard and huge desert surface perfect for emergency landings of exotic experimental aircraft. That's why the Air Force originally chose the site to test new experimental jets during World War II. A short while later, and for the same reasons, NASA's predecessor, the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, set up shop at the edge of the lakebed. Visible from space, Rogers Dry Lake, with an area of 44 square miles, is the largest of many dry lakes in California's Mojave Desert. It is a National Historic Landmark because of its role in the development of the nation's aerospace achievements. Early Space Shuttle flights landed on Rogers Dry Lake. At one time the lakebed contained water year round, but due to changing geographical and weather patterns, it is hard and dry most of the year, holding shallow water only briefly after infrequent desert rains. Last June, even after the first rover, Spirit, was well on its way to the Red Planet to land in Gusev Crater, believed by scientists to contain a dry lakebed similar to ones on Earth, JPL engineers put the prototype through its paces at Rogers Lake. Researchers had the prototype determine its own location, navigate around and over small hills, and maneuvering to avoid obstacles. Before heading out for Mars, much rover evaluation had already been accomplished. Many thousands of hours of research and labor went into assuring the twin Mars rovers have the best possible chances for success. The rover team learned valuable lessons through the Rogers Lake evaluations, as they continued polishing the software. Their success in the desert provided more confidence in the software for the tremendous challenge of directing both rovers in the exploration of Mars. The refining of the rovers' software continued after launch on their seven-month journeys, because new commands can be sent to the rovers from Earth even after they have landed on Mars. If needed, a total software reload can be accomplished from Earth. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic
Roman, What is the paramagnetic response to a strong magnet? If next to nothing then it is a good chance of being an R (or LL)...if a little stronger then EL(or L), if noticebly strong then EH (or H). The feerless guesser, John Roman, Could be an R...but looks more like an EH or even EL. Or just another nicely colored L or H. That about covers it...my vote is an E type of some kind. John Hi all, My link below shows a little NWA meteorite I cut in half. The total weight after cutting is 3.8 grams. Could it be an R chondrite? In the scan the ruler scale shows 1/16's of an inch. http://www.meteoritelabels.com/NWA2.jpg It's slow at my sign shop right now, so I have time to cut meteorites these days. I'll be cutting a large 1.2 kilo Estherville fragment with some nice black fusion crust soon. Anyone need a piece? Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - January 22-28, 2004
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES January 22-28, 2004 The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available: o Layers in Crater Wall (Released 22 January 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/22/index.html o MGS MOC Image of Mars Exploration Rover, Spirit, on Mars (Released 23 January 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/23/index.html o Mars Exploration Rover (MER-B) Opportunity Landing Site (Released 24 January 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/24/index.html o Sedimentary Rocks in Ladon Vallisi (Released 25 January 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/25/index.html o Summer South Polar Cap (Released 26 January 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/26/index.html o Sedimentary Rock Layers (Released 27 January 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/27/index.html o Layered Remnant (Released 28 January 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/28/index.html All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been in Mars orbit since September 1997. It began its primary mapping mission on March 8, 1999. Mars Global Surveyor is the first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, DC. Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ad - ebay auctions ending soon
Hi! My ebay auctions are ending in about 45 mins. Some pretty good deals still around. Lunar at ~ 400 a gram still, etc. Go check them out if you like: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoriten/ Good Luck to everyone bidding. Best Regards Moritz Karl www.m3t3orites.com Germany
[meteorite-list] Look on the Moon for the first evidence of life on Earth?
From a previous email:"Our research shows the structures found in the NASA meteorite were more than likely made by bacteria present on Mars four billion years ago - before life even started on Earth." Discussion: We don't have the rocks on Earth to accurately say when life started because of recycling due to plate tectonics. The oldest rock is 4.03 Ga old. The ancient rocks we are left with have been through a lot and are often highly metamorphosed. See the following link for ages of the oldest Earth rock: http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html The oldestbacterial fossils on Earthare 3.5 billion years old but probably originated before that. The rocks are often so metamorphosed that any fossil traces will be destroyed. The isotope ratios between Carbon-12 and Carbon-13, however,indicate life was present as much as 3.85Ga ago (although this has been questioned). Then, tiny zircon crystalsreworked into younger rocks, but dating back to 4.3Ga to 4.4Ga, suggest possibilities life may be even older. They indicate the possibility of oceans and environments in which microbial life could emerge - 4.3 billion to 4.4 billion years ago. As the ancient rocks on Earthare either not available due to plate tectonics or highly metamorphosed it has been suggested that the best place to look for life on Earth may be on the moon. Ancient terrestrial rock would have made it to the moon relatively unaltered. See the following very interesting article. http://www.nature.com/nsu/021028/021028-13.html AubreyBT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80
[meteorite-list] New version of Mydoom found today, so please, update again...
Hello, list the new version of Mydoom was found today, so the new update is needeed again. This seems to be a quite nasty one. http://www.fsecure.fi/v-descs/mydoom_b.shtml take care, pekka s -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test just delete it. : )
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[meteorite-list] AD, but not! Your opinion wanted
Hello List, I am starting to use HTML on my ebay auctions and I think they look pretty good. I figure nice ad's, meteorites and low prices should sell a meteorite! What do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2221515072 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 1755 - inclusion
Title: Nachricht Remember we talked about an inclusion I saw in a meteorite I aquired? I promised to take a phot of it once I have it, and here it is: http://www.worldofmeteorites.com/modules.php?id=nwa1755op=modloadname=galleryfile=indexinclude=view_photo.php Some additional info: I tried if it is abrasive with paper, but it isn't. It lies within a heavy brecciated zone of this stone. Well, photo tells it all :-) Opinions? Bernhard
[meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Challenger Crew Memorialized on Mars
Glenn Mahone/Donald Savage Headquarters, Washington January 28, 2004 (Phone: 202/358-1898/1547) DC Agle Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. (Phone: 818/393-9011) RELEASE: 04-043 Space Shuttle Challenger Crew Memorialized on Mars NASA announced plans to name the landing site of the Mars Opportunity rover in honor of the Space Shuttle Challenger's final crew. The area in the vast flatland called Meridiani Planum, where Opportunity landed this weekend, will be called the Challenger Memorial Station. The seven-member crew of Space Shuttle Challenger was lost when the orbiter suffered an in-flight breakup during launch Jan. 28, 1986, 18 years ago today. NASA selected Meridiani Planum because of extensive deposits of a mineral called crystalline hematite, which usually forms in the presence of liquid water. Scientists had hoped for a specific landing site where they could examine both the surface layer that's rich in hematite and an underlying geological feature of light-colored layered rock. The small crater in which Opportunity alighted appears to have exposures of both, with soil that could be the hematite unit and an exposed outcropping of the lighter rock layer. Challenger's 10th flight was to have been a six-day mission dedicated to research and education, as well as the deployment of the TDRS-B communications satellite. Challenger's commander was Francis R. Scobee and the mission pilot was Michael J. Smith. Mission specialists included Judith A. Resnik, Ellison S. Onizuka and Ronald E. McNair. The mission also carried two payload specialists, Gregory B. Jarvis and Sharon Christa McAuliffe, who was the agency's first teacher in space. Opportunity successfully landed on Mars Jan. 25. It will spend the next three months exploring the region surrounding what is now known as Challenger Memorial Station to determine if Mars was ever watery and suitable to sustain life. Opportunity's twin, Spirit, is trailblazing a similar path on the other side of the planet, in a Connecticut-sized feature called Gusev Crater. A composite image depicting the location of the Challenger Memorial Station can be found on the Web at: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/rover-images/jan-28-2004/captions/image-1.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science in Washington. Additional information about the project is available from NASA, JPL and Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., on the Internet at: http://www.nasa.gov/ http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov http://athena.cornell.edu -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 1755 - inclusion (LINK CORRECTION)
Title: Nachricht Sorry, link didn't work, try this one: http://www.viennamet.com/ebay/nwa1755.jpg Bernhard -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard "Rendelius" RemsSent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:43 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1755 - inclusion Remember we talked about an inclusion I saw in a meteorite I aquired? I promised to take a phot of it once I have it, and here it is: http://www.worldofmeteorites.com/modules.php?id=nwa1755op=modloadname=galleryfile=indexinclude=view_photo.php Some additional info: I tried if it is abrasive with paper, but it isn't. It lies within a heavy brecciated zone of this stone. Well, photo tells it all :-) Opinions? Bernhard
Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic
Hi John list. The specimens are attracted to a strong magnet, but no where near a Gao. Can all the chondrules be that small in an L? There is no visible metal in this meteorite probably due to a high weathering grade. Roman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Roman Jirasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic Roman, What is the paramagnetic response to a strong magnet? If next to nothing then it is a good chance of being an R (or LL)...if a little stronger then EL(or L), if noticebly strong then EH (or H). The feerless guesser, John Roman, Could be an R...but looks more like an EH or even EL. Or just another nicely colored L or H. That about covers it...my vote is an E type of some kind. John Hi all, My link below shows a little NWA meteorite I cut in half. The total weight after cutting is 3.8 grams. Could it be an R chondrite? In the scan the ruler scale shows 1/16's of an inch. http://www.meteoritelabels.com/NWA2.jpg It's slow at my sign shop right now, so I have time to cut meteorites these days. I'll be cutting a large 1.2 kilo Estherville fragment with some nice black fusion crust soon. Anyone need a piece? Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic
Hello Roman and List, I too have wondered about very small chondrules in an ordinary chondrite. I believe some classes such as CO are known for this but are there any ordinary chondrites that are known particularly for their small chondrule size? Jeff posted some pics for me a while back at: http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/space/nwachondrules.html My scans aren't nearly as nice as Roman's :-( Note that the width of the actual piece is less than an inch so should be close in actual size to what Roman posted. The first is a polished piece that got really dark so the picture has been lightened, the second is true color off the saw. There are a couple of chondrules that I would consider more common in size, but most are quite small. Are these pieces long lost cousins? Regards to all, Phil Hi John list. The specimens are attracted to a strong magnet, but no where near a Gao. Can all the chondrules be that small in an L? There is no visible metal in this meteorite probably due to a high weathering grade. Roman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Roman Jirasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic Roman, What is the paramagnetic response to a strong magnet? If next to nothing then it is a good chance of being an R (or LL)...if a little stronger then EL(or L), if noticebly strong then EH (or H). The feerless guesser, John Roman, Could be an R...but looks more like an EH or even EL. Or just another nicely colored L or H. That about covers it...my vote is an E type of some kind. John Hi all, My link below shows a little NWA meteorite I cut in half. The total weight after cutting is 3.8 grams. Could it be an R chondrite? In the scan the ruler scale shows 1/16's of an inch. http://www.meteoritelabels.com/NWA2.jpg It's slow at my sign shop right now, so I have time to cut meteorites these days. I'll be cutting a large 1.2 kilo Estherville fragment with some nice black fusion crust soon. Anyone need a piece? Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic
Roman, I have an EH thin section and the chondrules are quite small, and I just checked the Cambridge Encyclopedia and on page 115 it states the same thing that the chondrules in EH's are small. The lack of metal would a combination of weathering and the fact that EH's have quite a bit of iron in them including sulphide and troilite. I vote that it is an EH. Enjoy it, John Hi John list. The specimens are attracted to a strong magnet, but no where near a Gao. Can all the chondrules be that small in an L? There is no visible metal in this meteorite probably due to a high weathering grade. Roman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Roman Jirasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic Roman, What is the paramagnetic response to a strong magnet? If next to nothing then it is a good chance of being an R (or LL)...if a little stronger then EL(or L), if noticebly strong then EH (or H). The feerless guesser, John Roman, Could be an R...but looks more like an EH or even EL. Or just another nicely colored L or H. That about covers it...my vote is an E type of some kind. John Hi all, My link below shows a little NWA meteorite I cut in half. The total weight after cutting is 3.8 grams. Could it be an R chondrite? In the scan the ruler scale shows 1/16's of an inch. http://www.meteoritelabels.com/NWA2.jpg It's slow at my sign shop right now, so I have time to cut meteorites these days. I'll be cutting a large 1.2 kilo Estherville fragment with some nice black fusion crust soon. Anyone need a piece? Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] haags field guides
Good evening list.Who says you cannot get anything good on ebay.You just never know what you'll find.2 weeks ago I noticed BOB HAAG'S 1989 and 1992 field guides up for auction.So I put bids in on them and won.I'll tell you what.They are just in the same exact professionalism as his 1997 and 2003 guides are.The 2003 has better pictures, but there are some in THE 1989 one that are better to me than the 1992.The man really knows how to develope his guides.If anyone wants to see a piece of history, I am bringing them with me to tucson.See ya all there. steve arnold = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] haags field guides
Speaking of Bob's field guides, I have one on ebay right now autographed by himself. It's in great condition. Auction ends 18:16 PST, about an hour. See link below, and veiw my other auctions for the hell of it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2220873720 Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] haags field guides Good evening list.Who says you cannot get anything good on ebay.You just never know what you'll find.2 weeks ago I noticed BOB HAAG'S 1989 and 1992 field guides up for auction.So I put bids in on them and won.I'll tell you what.They are just in the same exact professionalism as his 1997 and 2003 guides are.The 2003 has better pictures, but there are some in THE 1989 one that are better to me than the 1992.The man really knows how to develope his guides.If anyone wants to see a piece of history, I am bringing them with me to tucson.See ya all there. steve arnold = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Opportunity Rover Begins Standing Up
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. NEWS RELEASE: 2004-043 January 28, 2004 Opportunity Rover Begins Standing Up NASA's Opportunity rover has untucked its front wheels and latched its suspension system in place, key steps in preparing to drive off its lander and onto martian soil. Overnight tonight, mission controllers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., plan to try tilting the lander platform down in the front by pressing the rear petal downward to raise the back. What we want to do is lower the front edge by about 5 degrees, said JPL's Dr. Rick Welch, activity lead for preparing the rover for roll-off. Plans call for driving off straight ahead, possibly as early as overnight Sunday-Monday, if all goes well. Meanwhile, halfway around Mars, Opportunity's twin, Spirit, continues on the mend from a computer memory problem that struck it a week ago. Right now we're working to get complete control of the vehicle, and we're still not quite there, said JPL's Jennifer Trosper, mission manager. If we're on the right track, we hope to be back doing some science by early next week. If we're not on the right track, it could take longer than that. Opportunity's infrared sensing instrument, the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, passed a health check last night. Scientists plan to begin using it tonight. The instrument detects the composition of rocks and soils from a distance. That information will help scientists decide what targets to approach after Opportunity drives off the lander. Scientists and rover engineers are already discussing which specific rocks within an outcropping near the lander will make the best targets, said Dr. Jim Bell of Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., lead scientist for the panoramic cameras on Opportunity and Spirit. Details of the outcrop can be seen in a new a color-picture mosaic Bell presented, the first portion of a full-circle panorama that has been taken and partially transmitted. Other new images show how Opportunity's airbags left detailed impressions in the fine-textured soil as the spacecraft was rolling to a stop in the small crater where it now sits. These marks are telling us about the physical properties of the material, Bell said. Some scientists believe that dark colored granules covering most of the crater's surface were pressed down into an underlying layer of powdery, lighter red material when the airbags hit. Others hold to a theory that the dark granules are agglomerations that crumble into the finer, lighter material when disturbed. After roll-off, soil near the lander will be the rover's first target for close-up examination with a microscope and two tools for detecting the composition of the target. The soil at Opportunity's landing site appears to have different properties than the soil at Spirit's landing site, Bell said. Opportunity has already validated predictions about the landing site made on the basis of images and measurements taken by spacecraft orbiting Mars, said JPL's Dr. Matt Golombek, a member of the rover science team and co-chair of a steering committee that evaluated potential landing sites for the rovers. The predictions included that the region of Meridiani Planum where Opportunity landed would be safe for landing, would be safe for rover driving, would have very few rocks and would look unlike any place previously seen on Mars. This bodes well for our ability to use remote sensing data in the future for picking landing sites, Golombek said. Engineers have been able to confirm a diagnosis that an unplanned drawdown of battery power each night on Opportunity is due to a heater on the rover's robotic arm. A switch designed to overrule the heater's thermostatic control has not been working. In the near term, it's not providing any operational constraints, Welch said. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Images and additional information about the project are available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov and from Cornell University at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic
Hey Roman all, I agreein that it could be an R,but what I've come to learn is thatappearance can be verydeceiving. Take a look at this image which is a classified meteorite and is a little similar in appearance. Have some guesses at which meteorite and what the classification is and I'll post the answer tomorrow. http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/images/1.jpg Cheers, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteorites.com.auwww.meteoritesaustralia.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Roman Jirasek ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic Roman,What is the paramagnetic response to a strong magnet? If next to nothing then it is a good chance of being an R (or LL)...if a little stronger then EL(or L), if noticebly strong then EH (or H).The feerless guesser,John Roman, Could be an R...but looks more like an EH or even EL. Or just another nicely colored L or H. That about covers it...my vote is an E type of some kind. John Hi all, My link below shows a little NWA meteorite I cut in half. The total weight after cutting is 3.8 grams. Could it be an R chondrite? In the scan the ruler scale shows 1/16's of an inch.http://www.meteoritelabels.com/NWA2.jpg It's slow at my sign shop right now, so I have time to cut meteorites these days. I'll be cutting a large 1.2 kilo Estherville fragment with some nice black fusion crust soon. Anyone need a piece?Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] God Bless Challenger.
Hey Dave, Your heart was indeed in the right place, and that is what counts. Indeed - God bless the Challenger and the Columbia crews. They would be so excited to see the events of the past days. (Perhaps they can see it much better !) -CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Freeman Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:55 AM To: Michael Farmer; meteorite collectors association; meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] God Bless Challenger. Dear Mike; I don't know what makes me stupider, CNN TV news, or the flu crud. It has changed on CNN TV now. Still not recognized on CNN on the internet. My apologies, Dave Freeman chicken soup for brains Michael Farmer wrote: not the challenger, that was 14 years ago. - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite collectors association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:20 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] God Bless Challenger. Dear List members; Today is the one year anniversary of the Challenger's last flight. God Bless the crew members that gave all, and the families that have given their most precious. A moment of pause and remembrance seems to be fitting for me. Sincerely, Dave Freeman __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Specimens on eBay AD
1845 PM PST Good evening Folks, Just a quick note to let you all of you know that I have just uploaded about a dozen nice specimens to eBay.they will launch (if eBay does their job)in about an hour and they will end about 7:30 PM PST tomorrow (Thursday, January 29). Yes, a one day auction. I have been away from eBay for a number of months in the meteorite category. As always, you can depend on my personal guarantee for authenticity and quality of specimens. There are a number of specimens to choose from including witnessed falls, a thin section of Allende, achondrites,the Main Mass of DaG 580, some specimens with fusion crust and a small specimen of Martian. Look for my auctions on eBay under seller: "litig8nshark".as always, I hope that you are pleased with the selectionand most of the specimens have a minimum bid of just $4.95no reserve on any of them. Happy New Year and Best Regards, Paul
[meteorite-list] Re: Cleaning Meteorites
Good Evening List, As long as we're talking about cleaning specimens, would isopropyl alcohol be ok for touching up an achondrite? Due to the fact that it has 30% water content, I wouldn't use it on any visable metal bearing meteorites. But would it be ok on an achondrite? Any input will be appreciated. Thanks! -Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Cleaning Meteorites
You can buy 99% isopropanol at the drugstore if you look for it. I no longer find it at my local Riteaid but picked up two bottles at Vons before the strike. HowardRYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Evening List,As long as we're talking about cleaning specimens, would isopropyl alcohol be ok for touching up an achondrite? Due to the fact that it has 30% water content, I wouldn't use it on any visable metal bearing meteorites. But would it be ok on an achondrite? Any input will be appreciated. Thanks!-Ryan__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listBT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Cleaning Meteorites
You can buy 99% isopropanol at the drugstore if you look for it. I no longer find it at my local Riteaid but picked up two bottles at Vons before the strike. HowardRYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Evening List,As long as we're talking about cleaning specimens, would isopropyl alcohol be ok for touching up an achondrite? Due to the fact that it has 30% water content, I wouldn't use it on any visable metal bearing meteorites. But would it be ok on an achondrite? Any input will be appreciated. Thanks!-Ryan__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listBT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80
Re: [meteorite-list] God Bless Challenger.
Well said Charlie Dave, Hail Columbia, Challenger, Soyuz-11, X-15A, Soyuz-1, and Apollo-1. Twenty-one Spacepersons and one School teacher-astronaut should have a Space Memorial Day. Write your Congressperson, candidate, Prime Minister, President. How about an international Space Memorial and Veterans' Day. What a positive way to embrace humankind and discovery. If there are too many holidays, combine it in many new world countries as Explorer's Day to replace Columbus Day with Columbia Day, a more worthwhile memory, to remind us why we do this and not to repeat the lessons of the past carnage or inattention...It's not an idea to be taken likely. If there is an omission, please correct and forgive. Saludos Doug Dawn Mxico Why not engrave these names on the United Nations entrance, as well as all Chief Space administrators office chair: Rick Husband, Kalpana Chawla, William McCool, David Brown, Laurel Clark, Michael Anderson, Ilan Ramon, Francis Scobee, Michael Smith, Ronald McNair, Elison Onizuka, Greg Jarvis, Christa McAuliffe, Judith Resnik, Georgi Dobrovolsky, Vladislav Volkov, Viktor Patsayev, Michael James Adams, Vladimir Komarov, Virgil Grissom, Edward White, Roger Chaffee. Lest We Forget the fallen Heros: USA: Apollo 1 (27 January 1967): In training for the space mission, the three-man crew was inside the spacecraft atop the unfuelled Saturn-1B launcher when a flash fire incinerated all three astronauts: Virgil Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee. USSR: Soyuz 1 (24 April 1967): Though only one solar panel deployed, providing only half of the expected electrical power and disabling some control thrusters by the folded panel, Komarov, the single cosmonaut, was able to bring the spacecraft out of orbit after 26 hours. The re-entry module tumbled in re-entry, tangling main and back-up parachutes after deployment. Crash killed Vladimir Komarov. USA: X-15A Rocket Plane (15 November 1967): Deadly accident, destroyed the craft. After reaching 81 km altitude, it lost control into a spin at Mach 5, diving from 30 km, began high frequency pitch oscillations, finally disintegrating when these increased to 15 G forces around the maximum speed of 5,744 km/h, killing astronaut Michael James Adams. USSR: Soyuz 11 (30 June 1971): Upon finishing the first manned space station residency (aboard the first Salyut), the three-man Soyuz 11 crew of Georgi Dobrovolsky, Vladislav Volkov and Viktor Patsayev all died when pressure was lost inside the Soyuz descent module upon return to Earth. A faulty valve opened at the time of the orbital modules separation, allowing the descent modules atmosphere to leak into space. USA: Space Shuttle Challenger (28 January 1986): 73 seconds after launch, the external fuel tank carried on this shuttle mission exploded, the shuttle separated at 15 km height, and plunged into the sea after a two and a half minute fall, killing the seven aboard: Francis Scobee, Michael Smith, Ronald McNair, Elison Onizuka, Greg Jarvis, New Hampshire School Teacher Christa McAuliffe and Judith Resnik. USA: Space Shuttle Columbia. (01 February 2003): During re-entry, after a few minutes of flight, and deceleration to somewhat more than half the orbital velocity, developed problems over the Western United States due to frictional re-entry heating under liftoff damaged ceramic tiles near wheelwell, causing an inevitable loss of navegation control over Texas, where the craft disintegrated at aproximately 50 - 60 km altitude and 20,000 km/h, and 15 minutes before landing,height killing all seven aboard instantly: Rick Husband, Kalpana Chawla, William McCool, David Brown, Laurel Clark, Michael Anderson, Israeli astronaut Ilan Ramon. In a message dated 1/28/2004 9:04:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj:RE: [meteorite-list] God Bless Challenger. Date:1/28/2004 9:04:15 PM Eastern Standard Time From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet Hey Dave, Your heart was indeed in the right place, and that is what counts. Indeed - God bless the Challenger and the Columbia crews. They would be so excited to see the events of the past days. (Perhaps they can see it much better !) -CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Freeman Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:55 AM To: Michael Farmer; meteorite collectors association; meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] God Bless Challenger. Dear Mike; I don't know what makes me stupider, CNN TV news, or the flu crud. It has changed on CNN TV now. Still not recognized on CNN on the internet. My apologies, Dave Freeman chicken soup for brains Michael Farmer wrote: not the challenger, that was 14 years ago. - Original Message - From: "David Freeman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "meteorite-list" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "meteorite collectors association" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:
[meteorite-list] NWA 1933
G'day folks, I just received a slice of NWA 1933 from Mike Farmer today. I strongly recommend taking a look at the pics.This isone of the; if not THE BEST, ordinary chondrites I have ever seen! It seems like no two chondrules are the same andheaps ofthem are armoured. Under magnification you can see inclusions within inclusions (achondritic clasts?)and the colours are pretty spectacular! All in all, it's like a solidified primordial Solar System stew! Cheers, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteorites.com.auwww.meteoritesaustralia.com
[meteorite-list] AD: Unique Offer - Nevada CO3
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm While much attention is being directed towards the Tucson Show, here is an offer for you to consider prior to that event. I am making available for the first time ever, a 1.5gram polished fragment of a new Carbonaceous Chondrite - a CO3 - the rarest of the rare Nevada meteorites. Because of the upcoming Tucson Show, this offer is only good for this week!! I'm directing this offer to those of you who dislike bidding on eBay auctions - for whatever reason! See if this novel approach appeals to you: BEST OFFER gets this specimen. The best offer price will NOT be made public! The name of the person with the best offer will NOT be made public! (Think about it. When I say confidential, you know it STAYS confidential!) This is a PRIVATE offer. There is NO BIDDING! (So, when you make your offer, don't bother asking me whether it is too low or too high! I'm serious. I said that the best offers are confidential and they will STAY confidential! I'm also curious. I wonder if there are collectors who would prefer this over an eBay auction?) You make your best offer. Within the two (2) day time limit of this offer, you can raise or retract your best offer! Best offer means best offer. I reserve the right to refuse any best offers, particularly if I perceive any wrong-doing, or a person makes public their best offer prior to the deadline of this PRIVATE offer. This offer is only good for this week, with a deadline of NOON PST Friday the 30th. Who ever has the best offer by NOON PST Friday, gets this specimen! (By the way, did I mention the low TKW?) This meteorite was first found by myself, Bob Verish, (on 2002 November 30) with additional fragments being subsequently recovered by members of my Meteorite-Recovery Team. It has been classified by UCLA as being a carbonaceous chondrite: CO3, Fa10.2-35.5, S1, W3 - - The Total Known Weight (TKW) is only 106.8 grams. Piecing these fragments together has met with very limited success. Like a puzzle with as many as 30% of its pieces missing, the majority of the fragments do not fit together. Before anymore of these small fragments are incorporated into the reconstructed masses, I would like to generate interest in this meteorite with the research community by going public with this specimen. By using these orphaned fragments as samples for test purposes, I can avoid cut loss by not having to make anymore cuts into this meteorite. The type specimen at UCLA consists primarily of about a dozen of these small fragments. What I am looking to get out of this exercise is an appraisal value for this meteorite for tax purposes on future donations. So, send me an offer, all reasonable offers will be seriously considered. (But only in the case of EXCEPTIONAL trade offers - meaning, ONLY offers from institutions where researchers are interested in using this meteorite in their studies - they are welcomed, as well.) Images of the 1.5 gram specimen that is being offered can be seen on this web page : http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm (A 1 centimeter cube-scale can be seen to the right of the stone in the first image.) The name for this meteorite is still pending approval. I assign a serial number to ALL of my finds. The serial number for this fragment is NV021130E1. Should you have any questions, contact me before making an offer. Bob V. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Related 8 x 10s
Hello Everyone, I have a wall-mounted display frame left over from another project and I am in need of 2, 8 x 10 pictures related to meteorites. I know the 8 x 10 format isconstraining but even more constraining is the vertical orientation. Does anyone know of any suitable images, either for purchase or download which are meteorite related? I think I have seen some images at some NASA sites which might be cropped but I thought list members might have some favorites. Thanks. -Walter --www.branchmeteorites.com
