RE: [meteorite-list] This guy is selling Meteorite PHD certificates on Ebay.....

[Charles Viau]

I apologize for the 'trash paper' comment, it is just that with all of
the fake degree mills out there on the net, this just not seem to set
well with me , especially since I think it should have said "Doctorate
in Meteorites",  or "Doctorate in Meteoritics" (which seems the most
correct). Mark pointed out that he had contacted the seller to correct
his terminology.. which I guess was done for a few buyers. So.. what is
really correct... Doctorate of Meteorites or Doctorate of Meteoritics...
?

CharlyV

-Original Message-
From: Mike Groetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:53 PM
To: Charles Viau; Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] This guy is selling Meteorite PHD
certificates on Ebay.

Everyone-
   I wouldn't call it trash paper- it has been fun.
And I bought one! Granted, maybe a little high priced,
but his quality is excellent and other than not being
dated or a real university- you wouldn't know it is
not the real thing.
   My wife and kids got a laugh out of it. So did some
friends of my wife that came to the house and saw it.
   It is now with "Dad's meteorites" aka his "dumb
rocks!".
   Lighten up- the guy has a good thing going and for
those of you that don't have a little advertising to
go with your meteorite collections- you might think it
is pretty neat.
   Have a good night everyone.
Mike Groetz

--- Charles Viau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check this out.. for $10.00 you can have a PhD in
> Meteorites!... as well
> as other things... and he is doing fairly well with
> this trash paper
>  
>
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Re: AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag

[j . divelbiss]

Adam and others,

What do we know about H/L's beyond what Joern said?  Bernd...you gave us some thought 
on the H/L
NWA 1955. You seemed very intrigued by what you saw. Any comments.

If you ever saw Haxtun in thin section...it is very strange indeed. To me it is one of 
the
coolest(as in awesome) thin sections I've ever seen.

More on H/L's would be good.

John
> Hi John and group,
> 
> I enjoyed the reading when I returned this afternoon.  I was unaware that
> polymict breccia chondrites were rarer than regolithic breccias.  I guess
> there is always room to learn something new and when the List is used
> properly it can provide educational gems such as this.  I think the term
> transitional is used to describe an H/L classification.  This means to me
> that the chondrite came from a completely different parent body than an H or
> an L therefore it is not the mixing of two parent bodies.  Since I never
> studied the H/L designation and only a few exist there is room here for
> something to be learned.
> 
> Sounds like an interesting subject,
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jörn Koblitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag
> 
> 
> > Joern,
> >
> > Thanx a lot for the great answers. I think many will benefit from this
> exchange.
> > I know Adam will be happy that you helped his cause to highlight the
> uniqueness of the polymict chondrite feature of Amgala. Now we'll wait for
> those results...How about it Adam?
> >
> > Couldn't the H/L's get mixed together in space to create a
> polymict...seems reasonable, even if we don't have a good example
> yet...maybe Amgala will be just that.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> > > Dear John,
> > >
> > > I think, for chondrites, regolith breccias (monomict or genomict) are
> quite more
> > > abundant than polymict breccias. The opposite is true for achondrites.
> Polymict
> > > breccias, especially eucrites (howardites are polymict by definition!)
> are quite
> > > often polymict (there is an unusual high fraction of polymict eucrites
> from
> > > Antarctica), whereas regolith breccias are rather common only for
> lunaites (e.g.
> > > anorthositic highland breccias), which are - by definition -
> achondrites. A nice
> > > example for another regolithic achondrite is the howardite Kapoeta
> (higly
> > > solar-gas-rich material).
> > >
> > > Regarding the H/Ls (Bremervoerde, NWA 1955, Tieschitz...): these aren't
> polymict
> > > breccias containing H and L lithologies, but members of a group
> intermediate
> > > between H and L chondrite in terms of composition and isotopic
> signatures. They
> > > likely come from a parent body (PB) distinct from the PBs of both, the L
> and H
> > > chondrites. Though they are breccias, they are not mixing products of L
> and H
> > > material.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Joern
> > >
> > >
> 
> ___
> > > Joern Koblitz
> > > MetBase Editor
> > > The MetBase Library of Meteoritics and Planetary Sciences
> > > Benquestrasse 27
> > > D-28209 Bremen, Germany
> > > phone: +49 421 24 100 24
> > > fax: +49 421 24 100 99
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> 
> ___
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2004 19:44
> > > > An: Jörn Koblitz
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Betreff: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joern,
> > > >
> > > > Thanx for the clarification on regolith versus the basic
> > > > breccia types.
> > > >
> > > > As far as chondrites go...is a genomict breccia with a
> > > > regolith history like Zag more or less unusual when compared
> > > > to a polymict breccia for chondrites, as in the supposed case
> > > > for Amgala? I ask this since you did point out that
> > > > achondrites are the ones that usually have the polymict
> > > > breccias, and not chondrites.
> > > >
> > > > Does this make NWA 1955 (H/L 3-4) a polymict breccia also? Or
> > > > does its classification as being unequilibrated chondrite
> > > > make it different than a breccia per say?
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > > Tsarev noble gas data data:
> > > > >
> > > > > he_3 he_4 ne_20 ne_21 ne_22 ar_36 ar_38 ar_40
> > > > > 1,58 121 0,54 0,54 0,60 0,42 0,11 575
> > > > > 2,07 108 0,78 0,82 0,88 0,83 0,20 1635
> > > > > all values: x 10E-8 cc STP/g
> > > > >
> > > > > Reference: Herzog G. F., Vogt S., Albrecht A., Xue S., Fink
> > > > D., Klein J.,
> > > > > Middleton R., Weber H. W. and Schultz L. (1997) Complex
> > > > exposure histories for
> > > > > meteorites with "short" exposure ages. Meteoritics 32, 413-422.
> > > > >
> > > > > According to this, Tsarev isn't a re

Re: AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag

[Impactika]

In a message dated 3/18/2004 7:15:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


the H/L designation and only a few exist there is room here for
something to be learned

I have a couple pieces of Haxtun, H/L 4 from Colorado, if anyone is interested.
One of them has an eucritic inclusion.

Just a thought...
 
Anne M. Black
www. IMPACTIKA.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMCA  #2356

Re: AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag

[Adam Hupe]

Hi John and group,

I enjoyed the reading when I returned this afternoon.  I was unaware that
polymict breccia chondrites were rarer than regolithic breccias.  I guess
there is always room to learn something new and when the List is used
properly it can provide educational gems such as this.  I think the term
transitional is used to describe an H/L classification.  This means to me
that the chondrite came from a completely different parent body than an H or
an L therefore it is not the mixing of two parent bodies.  Since I never
studied the H/L designation and only a few exist there is room here for
something to be learned.

Sounds like an interesting subject,

Adam


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jörn Koblitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag


> Joern,
>
> Thanx a lot for the great answers. I think many will benefit from this
exchange.
> I know Adam will be happy that you helped his cause to highlight the
uniqueness of the polymict chondrite feature of Amgala. Now we'll wait for
those results...How about it Adam?
>
> Couldn't the H/L's get mixed together in space to create a
polymict...seems reasonable, even if we don't have a good example
yet...maybe Amgala will be just that.
>
> Regards,
> John
> > Dear John,
> >
> > I think, for chondrites, regolith breccias (monomict or genomict) are
quite more
> > abundant than polymict breccias. The opposite is true for achondrites.
Polymict
> > breccias, especially eucrites (howardites are polymict by definition!)
are quite
> > often polymict (there is an unusual high fraction of polymict eucrites
from
> > Antarctica), whereas regolith breccias are rather common only for
lunaites (e.g.
> > anorthositic highland breccias), which are - by definition -
achondrites. A nice
> > example for another regolithic achondrite is the howardite Kapoeta
(higly
> > solar-gas-rich material).
> >
> > Regarding the H/Ls (Bremervoerde, NWA 1955, Tieschitz...): these aren't
polymict
> > breccias containing H and L lithologies, but members of a group
intermediate
> > between H and L chondrite in terms of composition and isotopic
signatures. They
> > likely come from a parent body (PB) distinct from the PBs of both, the L
and H
> > chondrites. Though they are breccias, they are not mixing products of L
and H
> > material.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Joern
> >
> >

___
> > Joern Koblitz
> > MetBase Editor
> > The MetBase Library of Meteoritics and Planetary Sciences
> > Benquestrasse 27
> > D-28209 Bremen, Germany
> > phone: +49 421 24 100 24
> > fax: +49 421 24 100 99
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >

___
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2004 19:44
> > > An: Jörn Koblitz
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Betreff: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag
> > >
> > >
> > > Joern,
> > >
> > > Thanx for the clarification on regolith versus the basic
> > > breccia types.
> > >
> > > As far as chondrites go...is a genomict breccia with a
> > > regolith history like Zag more or less unusual when compared
> > > to a polymict breccia for chondrites, as in the supposed case
> > > for Amgala? I ask this since you did point out that
> > > achondrites are the ones that usually have the polymict
> > > breccias, and not chondrites.
> > >
> > > Does this make NWA 1955 (H/L 3-4) a polymict breccia also? Or
> > > does its classification as being unequilibrated chondrite
> > > make it different than a breccia per say?
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > > Tsarev noble gas data data:
> > > >
> > > > he_3 he_4 ne_20 ne_21 ne_22 ar_36 ar_38 ar_40
> > > > 1,58 121 0,54 0,54 0,60 0,42 0,11 575
> > > > 2,07 108 0,78 0,82 0,88 0,83 0,20 1635
> > > > all values: x 10E-8 cc STP/g
> > > >
> > > > Reference: Herzog G. F., Vogt S., Albrecht A., Xue S., Fink
> > > D., Klein J.,
> > > > Middleton R., Weber H. W. and Schultz L. (1997) Complex
> > > exposure histories for
> > > > meteorites with "short" exposure ages. Meteoritics 32, 413-422.
> > > >
> > > > According to this, Tsarev isn't a regolith breccia.
> > > >
> > > > BTW: A regolith breccia can be either polymict (different
> > > source types of
> > > > clasts, e.g., H3 + L6), xenolithic (some minor exotic
> > > (non-host type) clasts,
> > > > e.g. CM clasts in L6 host), genomict (same material type
> > > but different
> > > > petrologic grades, e.g. H3 + H5), or monomict (e.g. light
> > > H3 + dark H3
> > > > (irradiated) lithologies). Usually, regolith breccias are
> > > monomict or genomict
> > > > breccias. Achondrites are often polymict breccias (e.g.
> > > howardites, eucrites,
> > > > diogenits, ureilites, lunaites).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,

Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Aniversary Online Show

[Rosemary Hackney]

I am game..if not gamy :-)

Rosie
- Original Message - 
From: "RYAN PAWELSKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 3:39 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Aniversary Online Show


> Good Evening List...
>
> I know that this is not really a meteorite sale list, but I was wondering
how everyone would feel if we held an online meteorite show of some sort
during the last weekend of every March in commemoration of the Park Forest
fall. Over the course of the weekend both dealers and collectors could hold
and/or participate in special online auctions, "spring cleaning" sales, chat
room meetings with special guests, and other meteorite activities either
related to or not related to the Park Forest fall. Maybe a Saturday
afternoon gathering/hunting of some sort in the Park Forest area? Would
anyone be interested, or is it just another ridiculous late night idea of
mine?  ;  )
>
> Yours In Meteorites,
>
> Ryan
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Re: [meteorite-list] new NWA meteorite pieces forsale

[j . divelbiss]

Probably just a math error. $5 a gram must have been the intent.

Anybody have a url for an online calculator? :)

If not, it must be the greatest H5 of all time to go for $50/gram...yikes!!

Very inexpensively confused,

John


Good day Steve and All,

The link to the website with the new NWA specimen doesn't appear to be 
working...at least with my browser.  

But, on another note, since when did an NWA, H5 specimen, even with nice 
metal and "slightly brecciated" become a "very inexpensive(ly)" deal at a cost of 
as much as $50.00 per gram? ("0.4 grams $20 1.2 cm").  Perhaps I'd understand 
if I could access the photo of the 65.7 gram slice.  Then again, maybe not.  I 
wonder what I am missing here. Someone please educate me.

Have a great day All,

Best Regards,

Paul Martyn

In a message dated 3/18/2004 8:21:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good morning list.I have just aquired a 65.7 gram full slice of a brand
new NWA piece.I also have 4 small pieces which I am offering to anyone who
wants to buy them,very inexpensively.



Good day Steve and All,
 
The link to the website with the new NWA specimen doesn't appear to be working...at least with my browser.  
 
But, on another note, since when did an NWA, H5 specimen, even with nice metal and "slightly brecciated" become a "very inexpensive(ly)" deal at a cost of as much as $50.00 per gram? ("0.4 grams $20 1.2 cm").  Perhaps I'd understand if I could access the photo of the 65.7 gram slice.  Then again, maybe not.  I wonder what I am missing here. Someone please educate me.
 
Have a great day All,
 
Best Regards,
 
Paul Martyn
 
In a message dated 3/18/2004 8:21:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good morning list.I have just aquired a 65.7 gram full slice of a brandnew NWA piece.I also have 4 small pieces which I am offering to anyone whowants to buy them,very inexpensively.

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - March 18, 2004

[Ron Baalke]

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Two Down, Three to Go - sol 53, Mar 18, 2004

On sol 53, which ends at 6:07 p.m. PST on March 18, Opportunity 
first completed the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer work from 
yestersol and then continued to study the second soil survey 
target with the Moessbauer spectrometer. 

Following an afternoon nap, the rover used its microscopic 
imager to get close-up views of the soil.  Opportunity then 
made its way to the third soil target, which involved a 
5-meter (about 16 feet) drive. The alpha particle X-ray 
spectrometer was then positioned to examine the magnet arrays. 
Preparations were also made to conduct a miniature thermal 
emission spectrometer observation of the martian sky at dawn on
the next sol. 

"Ice Cream Man" by John Brim woke Opportunity this sol to 
remind it of the possible sweet treats that await at targets 
referred to as "Chocolate Chip" and "Coconut" in the 
neighborhood dubbed "Mudpie." 

The soil survey will continue in the coming sols.

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Re: AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag

[j . divelbiss]

Joern,

Thanx a lot for the great answers. I think many will benefit from this exchange.
I know Adam will be happy that you helped his cause to highlight the uniqueness of the 
polymict chondrite feature of Amgala. Now we'll wait for those results...How about it 
Adam?

Couldn't the H/L's get mixed together in space to create a polymict...seems 
reasonable, even if we don't have a good example yet...maybe Amgala will be just that.

Regards,
John
> Dear John,
> 
> I think, for chondrites, regolith breccias (monomict or genomict) are quite more 
> abundant than polymict breccias. The opposite is true for achondrites. Polymict 
> breccias, especially eucrites (howardites are polymict by definition!) are quite 
> often polymict (there is an unusual high fraction of polymict eucrites from 
> Antarctica), whereas regolith breccias are rather common only for lunaites (e.g. 
> anorthositic highland breccias), which are - by definition - achondrites. A nice 
> example for another regolithic achondrite is the howardite Kapoeta (higly 
> solar-gas-rich material).
> 
> Regarding the H/Ls (Bremervoerde, NWA 1955, Tieschitz...): these aren't polymict 
> breccias containing H and L lithologies, but members of a group intermediate 
> between H and L chondrite in terms of composition and isotopic signatures. They 
> likely come from a parent body (PB) distinct from the PBs of both, the L and H 
> chondrites. Though they are breccias, they are not mixing products of L and H 
> material.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Joern
> 
> ___
> Joern Koblitz
> MetBase Editor
> The MetBase Library of Meteoritics and Planetary Sciences
> Benquestrasse 27
> D-28209 Bremen, Germany
> phone: +49 421 24 100 24
> fax: +49 421 24 100 99
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ___
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2004 19:44
> > An: Jörn Koblitz
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag
> > 
> > 
> > Joern,
> > 
> > Thanx for the clarification on regolith versus the basic 
> > breccia types. 
> > 
> > As far as chondrites go...is a genomict breccia with a 
> > regolith history like Zag more or less unusual when compared 
> > to a polymict breccia for chondrites, as in the supposed case 
> > for Amgala? I ask this since you did point out that 
> > achondrites are the ones that usually have the polymict 
> > breccias, and not chondrites. 
> > 
> > Does this make NWA 1955 (H/L 3-4) a polymict breccia also? Or 
> > does its classification as being unequilibrated chondrite 
> > make it different than a breccia per say?
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > > Tsarev noble gas data data:
> > > 
> > > he_3  he_4ne_20   ne_21   ne_22   ar_36   ar_38   ar_40
> > > 1,58  121 0,540,540,600,420,11575
> > > 2,07  108 0,780,820,880,830,201635
> > > all values: x 10E-8 cc STP/g
> > > 
> > > Reference: Herzog G. F., Vogt S., Albrecht A., Xue S., Fink 
> > D., Klein J., 
> > > Middleton R., Weber H. W. and Schultz L. (1997) Complex 
> > exposure histories for 
> > > meteorites with "short" exposure ages. Meteoritics 32, 413-422.
> > > 
> > > According to this, Tsarev isn't a regolith breccia.
> > > 
> > > BTW: A regolith breccia can be either polymict (different 
> > source types of 
> > > clasts, e.g., H3 + L6), xenolithic (some minor exotic 
> > (non-host type) clasts, 
> > > e.g. CM clasts in L6 host), genomict (same material type 
> > but different 
> > > petrologic grades, e.g. H3 + H5), or monomict (e.g. light 
> > H3 + dark H3 
> > > (irradiated) lithologies). Usually, regolith breccias are 
> > monomict or genomict 
> > > breccias. Achondrites are often polymict breccias (e.g. 
> > howardites, eucrites, 
> > > diogenits, ureilites, lunaites).
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Joern
> > > 
> > > 
> > __
> > _
> > > Joern Koblitz
> > > MetBase Editor
> > > The MetBase Library of Meteoritics and Planetary Sciences
> > > Benquestrasse 27
> > > D-28209 Bremen, Germany
> > > phone: +49 421 24 100 24
> > > fax: +49 421 24 100 99
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > __
> > _
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Gesendet: Montag, 15. März 2004 21:20
> > > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Betreff: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Adam wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I do not believe it is going to classify as a
> > > > > regolith breccia but rather a polymict breccia.
> > > > 
> > > > Adam also wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I thought one distinction made for a regol

[meteorite-list] Mineral in Mars 'Berries' Adds to Water Story

[Ron Baalke]

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Dwayne Brown (202) 358-1726
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News Release: 2004-088March 18, 2004

Mineral in Mars 'Berries' Adds to Water Story

A major ingredient in small mineral spheres analyzed by 
NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity furthers 
understanding of past water at Opportunity's landing 
site and points to a way of determining whether the vast 
plains surrounding the site also have a wet history. 

The spherules, fancifully called blueberries although 
they are only the size of BBs and more gray than blue, 
lie embedded in outcrop rocks and scattered over some 
areas of soil inside the small crater where Opportunity 
has been working since it landed nearly two months ago.

Individual spherules are too small to analyze with the 
composition-reading tools on the rover. In the past week, 
those tools were used to examine a group of berries that 
had accumulated close together in a slight depression 
atop a rock called "Berry Bowl."  The rover's Moessbauer 
spectrometer, which identifies iron-bearing minerals, 
found a big difference between the batch of spherules and 
a "berry-free" area of the underlying rock.

"This is the fingerprint of hematite, so we conclude that 
the major iron-bearing mineral in the berries is hematite," 
said Daniel Rodionov, a rover science team collaborator 
from the University of Mainz, Germany. On Earth, hematite 
with the crystalline grain size indicated in the spherules 
usually forms in a wet environment.

Scientists had previously deduced that the martian spherules 
are concretions that grew inside water-soaked deposits.  
Evidence such as interlocking spherules and random 
distribution within rocks weighs against alternate 
possibilities for their origin. Discovering hematite in 
the rocks strengthens this conclusion. It also adds 
information that the water in the rocks when the spherules 
were forming carried iron, said Dr. Andrew Knoll, a science 
team member from Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass.

"The question is whether this will be part of a still 
larger story," Knoll said at a press briefing today at 
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 
Spherules below the outcrop in the crater apparently 
weathered out of the outcrop, but Opportunity has also 
observed plentiful spherules and concentrations of hematite 
above the outcrop, perhaps weathered out of a higher 
layer of once-wet deposits. The surrounding plains bear 
exposed hematite identified from orbit in an area the 
size of Oklahoma -- the main reason this Meridiani Planum 
region of Mars was selected as Opportunity's landing site.

"Perhaps the whole floor of Meridiani Planum has a residual 
layer of blueberries," Knoll suggested. "If that's true, 
one might guess that a much larger volume of outcrop once 
existed and was stripped away by erosion through time."

Opportunity will spend a few more days in its small crater 
completing a survey of soil sites there, said Bethany 
Ehlmann, a science team collaborator from Washington 
University, St. Louis. One goal of the survey is to 
assess distribution of the spherules farther from the 
outcrop. After that, Opportunity will drive out of its 
crater and head for a much larger crater with a thicker 
outcrop about 750 meters (half a mile) away.

Halfway around Mars, NASA's other Mars Exploration Rover, 
Spirit, has been exploring the rim of the crater nicknamed 
"Bonneville," which it reached last week.  A new color 
panorama shows "a spectacular view of drift materials on 
the floor" and other features, said Dr. John Grant, science 
team member from the National Air and Space Museum in 
Washington. Controllers used Spirit's wheels to scuff away 
the crusted surface of a wind drift on the rim for 
comparison with drift material inside the crater.

A faint feature at the horizon of the new panorama is the 
wall of Gusev Crater, about 80 kilometers (50 miles) away, 
said JPL's Dr. Albert Haldemann, deputy project scientist. 
The wall rises about 2.5 kilometers (1.6 miles) above 
Spirit's current location roughly in the middle of Gusev 
Crater. It had not been seen in earlier Spirit images 
because of dust, but the air has been clearing and 
visibility improving, Haldemann said.

Controllers have decided not to send Spirit into Bonneville 
crater. "We didn't see anything compelling enough to take 
the risk to go down in there," said JPL's Dr. Mark Adler, 
mission manager. Instead, after a few more days exploring 
the rim, Spirit will head toward hills to the east 
informally named "Columbia Hills," which might have 
exposures of layers from below or above the region's 
current surface. 

The main task for 

[meteorite-list] crust rust removal

[Tom aka James Knudson]

 Hello list, I have seen plenty of talk about removing rust from iron
meteorites, (forgive me If I missed any)   I have a few small SAU 001's that
are in "found condition" and they have a little crust rust.  Is there a
preferred method of removing rust from crust.
Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] Some notes on the 35th LPC in Houston

[Adam Hupe]

Dear List Members,

We just returned from Houston and saw how the other end of the meteoritic
spectrum operates at the 35th Lunar and Planetary conference.

Some well know collectors and dealers where present including Blain Reed,
Marvin and Kitty Killgore, David Gregory, Art from TCU and a few others I
temporarily forgot due to recovering from NASA's huge shindig last night.
David Gregory presented his new Martian meteorite which was a huge hit.
Congratulations David on recovering the 31st Martian meteorite and what a
beauty, a 500 gram plus oriented specimen!

As everybody probably knows, Mars seemed to be the overriding theme. I heard
just as many talks on NWA meteorites as I did Antarctic proving to me there
really isn't much of a bias in the scientific community regarding find
location.  Most do not seem to care where a meteorite lands if good data can
be extracted and enough material is provided to science.  Through the poster
sessions my thoughts were confirmed about NWA 482 being the freshest lunar
meteorite ever found.  Its terrestrial age is the youngest and its state of
preservation is the best.  I also found out that NWA 998 has the oldest
terrestrial age of any known Nakhlite dating ~6,000 years old.  This is
remarkable considering how friable Nakhlites are.  During a presentation NWA
1195 Mossbauer spectrum results where compared with those taken by the
Spirit rover on the now famous rock called "Adirondack".  We provided
several planetary specimens preserved in our collection for Mossbauer
testing to obtain results that can be compared to the NASA rover missions
which were obtained the same way.  Loads of interesting data are coming from
these specimens and prove that the preservation of larger pieces is very
important.

I enjoyed meeting several well known scientists that make meteorites more
interesting and add immense value.  Without them meteorites would simply be
rocks from space with very little collectable interest.  It was a real
eye-opener seeing all that brain power
present at a single location with over a 1,000 scientists present.  The
shop-talk was excellent and I learned several interesting things making the
event very worthwhile.

I enjoyed the NASA can-do and the right-stuff attitude which shows no sign
of fading since the Apollo missions as it was present everywhere.  With an
international presence it shows that the study of meteorites, planets and
space is a collaborative effort that is gaining momentum.  Will write more
later when my brain clears from meteoritic information overload which only
an event like this can create.

All the best,

Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
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[meteorite-list] updated my website

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!]

Hello list.Sorry about the outdated link to the website.I updated the
correct info.So you should be able to look at that really nice piece on my
home page.Here is the link http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com.This should
get you there.

steve

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[meteorite-list] Lunar Dhofar 467 for sale

[luc labenne]

Hello list,

I have cut some complete slices of the Lunar dhofar 467 (36.23g total 
weight) and have a big surprise to find a large glossy melt vein cross 
cuting all the slices weighing from 0.806g to 1.822g, price $1000/g. Many 
vesicles are visible on the glossy melt vein, click on the photos to 
enlarge:

http://www.meteorites.tv/homepage.html?target=dept_11.html&lang=en-us

Meteoriticaly,
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[meteorite-list] Blueberries - are they miniature Moqui Marbles

[Robert Verish]

Hey Ron,

We could use some help here.  Several of us are having
a discussion about these new reports and the use of
the words "concretion" and "precipitation".  A lot of
people that I have talked to think that these
"blueberries" are oolitic in nature, meaning that they
are formed under standing bodies of water.  
My impression is that these "spherules" are
concretionary (see definiton, below). 

Maybe you could exert some influence, and get some
clarification on these terms that are being used in
these reports.  Let me know who is more correct -
oncolites or Moqui Marble-like concretions?

Definitions:

Concretions - form in rock after it has consolidated:
deposited if it is a sediment, hardened if it is
volcanic. So the concretions replace or enclose
material already present. 

Moqui marbles - contain sand in the middle, indicating
that they formed within the sandstone after it had
been deposited. Because they have an outer layer of
iron oxide, the iron compounds moved through the sand
to precipitate on the edge of the nodule.
Precipitation of the iron compounds is a localized
chemical reaction, controlled by the changes in the pH
of flowing groundwater, such as when encountering
organic matter (i.e. bacteria, plant fossils, etc.).

 Oncolite - A small, often spheroidal, concentrically
laminated, calcium-carbonate sedimentary structure
formed by the buildup of layered masses of gelatinous
sheaths of blue-green algae; generally not more than
10 centimeters in diameter. 

 Oolitic - Pertaining to oolite, a sedimentary rock
made up of round to oval accretionary bodies with
diameters ranging from 0.25 to 2 millimeters and
usually formed of calcium carbonate. 

So the question is:  Are the "blueberries" actually
miniature "Moqui Marbles", or are they more like
oolitic or oncolitic structures?

Thanks,
Bob V.


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[meteorite-list] Mystery Spheres on Mars Finally
Identified 
Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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http://space.com/missionlaunches/mars_blueberries_040317.html

Mystery Spheres on Mars Finally Identified
By Leonard David
space.com
17 March 2004


Formation via precipitation


"Hematite as a major compositional phase in the
spherules supports their formation via precipitation,
rather than as impact-related fallout," Garvin said.




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[meteorite-list] AD - Major Meteorite Auction

[Iris Lang]

Dear List Members,

Thank you to all Meteorite List members who visited with Allan and myself
during the Tucson show, and especially those of you who participated in our
meteorite auctions at the Executive Inn and the Westward Look Resort. It was
a pleasure to see so many of our friends in attendance.

We would like to take this opportunity to announce an important upcoming
event: an auction of rare and historic specimens from the R.A. Langheinrich
Meteorite Collection. As many of you know, the Langheinrich Meteorite
Collection was founded in 1971 and is one of the largest private collections
in the world. This spring, we will be auctioning a number of quality
specimens from the collection, through Ebay.

A preview of the first twenty lots is now available online, and more lots
will be added in the near future:

http://www.nyrockman.com/auction.htm

Included in the auction will be the following items:

Apt (L6)  4.3 grams
Witnessed fall, France, 1803

Bath Furnace (L6)  58.4 grams
Witnessed fall, Kentucky, USA, 1902

Boxhole (IIIAB)  54.5 grams
Individual with Huss number H125.120 and original
American Meteorite Laboratory label

Braunau (IIA)  54.6 grams
Witnessed fall, Bohemia, 1847
With original European museum label 44/89

Brenham (PAL)  277 grams
Complete individuall

Chaves (L6)  39.1 grams
Witnessed fall, Portugal, 1925

Dandapur (L6)  39.1 grams
Witnessed fall, India, 1878

Honolulu (L5)  1.96 grams
Witnessed fall, Hawaii, USA, 1825

Huckitta (PAL)  1412.5 grams
Large complete individual

Juvinas (EUC)  4.0 grams
Witnessed fall, France, 1821
With original handwritten E.U. Sheperd label

Kapoeta (AHOW)  11.4 grams
Witnessed fall, Sudan, 1942

Pasmonte (EUC)  7.5 grams
Witnessed fall, New Mexico, USA, 1933


. . . and many more!


If you would like further information about the auction, please contact us
by email or telephone.


Sincerely,

Iris Lang
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RE: [meteorite-list] guessing game

[Randy Mils]

Looks like NWA 1109 Eucrite to me..???
Randy
>From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:23:08 -0700 
> 
>Hey, Did you all see Dean's new meteorite?  Any guess's as to what it is? 
> 
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2233095399&category=3239 
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Re: [meteorite-list] guessing game

[stan .]

the photo did change... earlier it was a 400 some gram piece of what looked 
like nwa 1836... now the price is 500$ higher (but the weight went up by 
500g so i guess it's ok :) )


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Didn't the pictures and the weight change?

Bill Kieskowski

> Hey Dean
>
> What is the weight of your beauty one ebay ? 900 g ?
> Congratulations. Good shot !
> Best regards.
>
> Michel
>
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> is?
> >
> > >
> 
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> >
> > Here, here, ... I know, I know ! But: I won't take part in the 
guessing
> > game as I already know what it is ... private communication a few
> > days ago ;-)
> >
> > Wish I had the money ... oh, well, ...
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[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - March 18, 2004

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/daily/3-18-04.cfm

Opportunity Status for sol 52
Scrutinizing the Soil
posted Mar. 18, 9 am PST

Sol 52, which ended at 5:27 p.m. PST on March 17,
was a full day for Opportunity, punctuated by short
naps. The rover arm was deployed on the first of
five targets in the rover's current soil survey. The
soil was examined by all the rover's spectrometers
and the panoramic camera. 

In the afternoon, the rover moved about 6 meters
(about 20 feet) to the second soil target, performing
several remote observations along the way.
Closing out the sol, Opportunity's alpha particle
X-ray spectrometer began to inspect the capture
magnets on the front of the rover. Clues about
Mars' watery history are present even in the
smallest dust grains that settle on these magnet
arrays. 

Images of Opportunity's "scuff" experiment on the
rock "Carousel" reached Earth this sol. Scientists
are currently examining the results. 

In honor of Opportunity's 52nd sol on Mars,
engineers chose "Rock Lobster" by the B52s as a
wake-up tune. 

In the coming sols, the rover will travel to the final
targets in the soil survey. 
  

   
Spirit Status for sol 73
A Close-Up of 'Serpent'
posted Mar. 18, 10:45 am PST

Spirit spent most of sol 73, which ended at 5:46
a.m. PST on March 18, 2004, analyzing targets in
the drift dubbed "Serpent" with the microscopic
imager. But before the close-ups began, Spirit
acquired miniature thermal emission spectrometer
inertia measurements on a disturbed area of soil. It
also captured panoramic camera images of the
scuffed area, dubbed "Bear Paw," the wheel that
did the digging, and a nearby rock target named
"White Elephant." 

The microscopic imager work began at 11:00 am
Mars Local Solar Time and was targeted at four
points within the scuffed area on Serpent. The
targets were given the bear-type names of Polar,
Spectacled, Kodiak and Panda. For each target,
seven microscopic images were taken to assure
proper focus. At the Spectacled and Kodiak targets,
a microscopic image with the filter in place was
also taken for pseudo-color. Then the Moessbauer
was placed on Panda and started an overnight
integration. The arm activities were completed by
about noon Mars Local Solar time, and were
followed by the second thermal inertia
measurement on the disturbed soil. 

The rover took a siesta until 1:00 p.m. Mars Local
Solar time, and then woke up for a series of mini
thermal emission spectrometer observations on the
rocks named "White Elephant," "Fruitcake," and
"Dihedral." Then the third and last thermal inertia
measurement was taken on the disturbed soil. 

Spirit took another quick nap in the afternoon, and
then completed sky measurements with the mini
thermal emission spectrometer and panoramic
camera. 

Spirit will have an early start on sol 74, which will
end at 6:25 a.m. PST March 19, 2004. Sol 74 will
include a tool change to the alpha particle X-ray
spectrometer and the beginning of an integration on
the drift target named Panda. Before the sol is
over, Spirit will also analyze an undisturbed area of
the Serpent drift before continuing to drive around
the rim of "Bonneville" crater. 

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Didn't the pictures and the weight change?

Bill Kieskowski

> Hey Dean
> 
> What is the weight of your beauty one ebay ? 900 g ?
> Congratulations. Good shot !
> Best regards.
> 
> Michel
> 
> 
> Michel FRANCO
> Caillou Noir www.caillou-noir.com
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> 74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE
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> is?
> >
> > >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2233095399&category=3239
> >
> > Here, here, ... I know, I know ! But: I won't take part in the guessing
> > game as I already know what it is ... private communication a few
> > days ago ;-)
> >
> > Wish I had the money ... oh, well, ...
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[meteorite-list] Sayh Al Uhaymir 001 help

[Tom aka James Knudson]

Hello List, Sayh Al Uhaymir 001 has some dark material in it's matrix, I am
having a real hard time finding out what this stuff is, do you know? If so
can you enlighten me? Here is a link to the New England Meteoritical
Services web site, on this page is a perfect example of what I am talking
about. : )

http://www.meteorlab.com/METEORLAB2001dev/clsschrt.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] guessing game

[Michel Franco]

Hey Dean

What is the weight of your beauty one ebay ? 900 g ?
Congratulations. Good shot !
Best regards.

Michel


Michel FRANCO
Caillou Noir www.caillou-noir.com
BP 16, 100 Chemin des Campènes
74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE


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>
> >
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>
> Here, here, ... I know, I know ! But: I won't take part in the guessing
> game as I already know what it is ... private communication a few
> days ago ;-)
>
> Wish I had the money ... oh, well, ...
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RE: [meteorite-list] Mystery Spheres on Mars Finally Identified

[stan .]

at low temperture and pressure water tends to sublime, ie change directly to 
the gas phase from a solid, as opposed to melt, then boil away, so unless 
the water was liquified by impact, a comet wouldnt be a good source of free 
liquid water on mars..



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Just a thought, but couldn't the spherules have been formed by slow
boiling water from a cometry impact containing water & iron/minerals? -
Since the atmospheric pressure is very low (and likely has been pretty
thin through most of mars history) any standing water from say a big
comet impact would have begun to boil would it not? - thereby forming
iron rich spherical minerals...
Anyone fancy boiling a large chunk of tagish lake in water to test the
theory?  :)
Best,
Mark Ford
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http://space.com/missionlaunches/mars_blueberries_040317.html

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[meteorite-list] Dean´s beayty on eBay...

[Pekka Savolainen]

...looks to me a kind of basaltic Eucrite breccia.

best,

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AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag

[Jörn Koblitz]

Dear John,

I think, for chondrites, regolith breccias (monomict or genomict) are quite more 
abundant than polymict breccias. The opposite is true for achondrites. Polymict 
breccias, especially eucrites (howardites are polymict by definition!) are quite often 
polymict (there is an unusual high fraction of polymict eucrites from Antarctica), 
whereas regolith breccias are rather common only for lunaites (e.g. anorthositic 
highland breccias), which are - by definition - achondrites. A nice example for 
another regolithic achondrite is the howardite Kapoeta (higly solar-gas-rich material).

Regarding the H/Ls (Bremervoerde, NWA 1955, Tieschitz...): these aren't polymict 
breccias containing H and L lithologies, but members of a group intermediate between H 
and L chondrite in terms of composition and isotopic signatures. They likely come from 
a parent body (PB) distinct from the PBs of both, the L and H chondrites. Though they 
are breccias, they are not mixing products of L and H material.

Best wishes,
Joern

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> 
> 
> Joern,
> 
> Thanx for the clarification on regolith versus the basic 
> breccia types. 
> 
> As far as chondrites go...is a genomict breccia with a 
> regolith history like Zag more or less unusual when compared 
> to a polymict breccia for chondrites, as in the supposed case 
> for Amgala? I ask this since you did point out that 
> achondrites are the ones that usually have the polymict 
> breccias, and not chondrites. 
> 
> Does this make NWA 1955 (H/L 3-4) a polymict breccia also? Or 
> does its classification as being unequilibrated chondrite 
> make it different than a breccia per say?
> 
> John
> 
> > Tsarev noble gas data data:
> > 
> > he_3he_4ne_20   ne_21   ne_22   ar_36   ar_38   ar_40
> > 1,58121 0,540,540,600,420,11575
> > 2,07108 0,780,820,880,830,201635
> > all values: x 10E-8 cc STP/g
> > 
> > Reference: Herzog G. F., Vogt S., Albrecht A., Xue S., Fink 
> D., Klein J., 
> > Middleton R., Weber H. W. and Schultz L. (1997) Complex 
> exposure histories for 
> > meteorites with "short" exposure ages. Meteoritics 32, 413-422.
> > 
> > According to this, Tsarev isn't a regolith breccia.
> > 
> > BTW: A regolith breccia can be either polymict (different 
> source types of 
> > clasts, e.g., H3 + L6), xenolithic (some minor exotic 
> (non-host type) clasts, 
> > e.g. CM clasts in L6 host), genomict (same material type 
> but different 
> > petrologic grades, e.g. H3 + H5), or monomict (e.g. light 
> H3 + dark H3 
> > (irradiated) lithologies). Usually, regolith breccias are 
> monomict or genomict 
> > breccias. Achondrites are often polymict breccias (e.g. 
> howardites, eucrites, 
> > diogenits, ureilites, lunaites).
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Joern
> > 
> > 
> __
> _
> > Joern Koblitz
> > MetBase Editor
> > The MetBase Library of Meteoritics and Planetary Sciences
> > Benquestrasse 27
> > D-28209 Bremen, Germany
> > phone: +49 421 24 100 24
> > fax: +49 421 24 100 99
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> __
> _
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 15. März 2004 21:20
> > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Betreff: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Adam wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I do not believe it is going to classify as a
> > > > regolith breccia but rather a polymict breccia.
> > > 
> > > Adam also wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I thought one distinction made for a regolith breccia is that
> > > > there are signs of crystal damage caused by the solar wind
> > > 
> > > Martin A. chirped:
> > > 
> > > > Tsarev which is brecciated but not polymict
> > > > is also altered by solar winds, isn't it?
> > > 
> > > Hello Adam, Martin, and List,
> > > 
> > > There are 3 types of inert and/or noble gases in some meteorites:
> > > 
> > > (1) those produced by cosmic ray bombardment (cosmogenic);
> > > (2) those resulting from radioactive decay of elements 
> (radiogenic)
> > > in the meteorite;
> > > (3) those present originally (= trapped or primordial gases).
> > > 
> > > No. (3) is what we are interested in to find out if Amgala, Tsarev
> > > and Zag have or

Re: [meteorite-list] guessing game

[bernd . pauli]

> Hey, Did you all see Dean's new meteorite?  Any guess's as to what it is?

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2233095399&category=3239

Here, here, ... I know, I know ! But: I won't take part in the guessing
game as I already know what it is ... private communication a few
days ago ;-)

Wish I had the money ... oh, well, ...

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] guessing game

[Tom aka James Knudson]

Hey, Did you all see Dean's new meteorite?  Any guess's as to what it is?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2233095399&category=3239

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AW: [meteorite-list] Books on Eucrites???

[Jörn Koblitz]

Dear Dave,

I found 3 monographs - mainly on eucrites, all dissertations and quite technical (see 
below). 

You can try to get them on loan from a university library nearby. Also, check the 
internet / google. May be they are online as pdf file. Good luck!

Joern

***
DUKE M. B. (1963)  Petrology of basaltic achondrites. Ph.D. Thesis, California 
Institute of Technology. Pasadena, CA, 362 pp.

JÉROME D. Y. (1970)  Composition and origin of some achondrite meteorites. Ph.D. 
Thesis, University of Oregon. 166 pp.

MUNTEAN R. A. (1979)  Determination of primordial and cosmogenic radioactivity in 
achondritic meteorites by low-level, gamma-ray spectrometry. Ph.D. Thesis, Tennessee 
Univ., Knoxville. Knoxville



> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Dave Schultz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. März 2004 23:06
> An: Jörn Koblitz
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Books on Eucrites???
> 
> 
>   Thanks Joern. Do you know if a lay person as myself
> could possibly get copies of these for personal use
> only. Thanks again!
> Dave
> 
> 
> > There isn't any commercially available book
> > exclusively dealing with eucrites. There are a few
> > special publications and Ph.D. dissertations on
> > eucrites mainly on chemistry and isotopes.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Joern
> > 
> >
> __
> _
> > Joern Koblitz
> > MetBase Editor
> > The MetBase Library of Meteoritics and Planetary
> > Sciences
> > Benquestrasse 27
> > D-28209 Bremen, Germany
> > phone: +49 421 24 100 24
> > fax: +49 421 24 100 99
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. März 2004 04:32
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> > > Betreff: [meteorite-list] Books on Eucrites???
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Greetings. I was just wondering if anyone knows
> > of
> > > any books or publications that one can purchase
> > that
> > > strickly deals with Eucrites? Thanks.
> > >   Dave
> > > 
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RE: [meteorite-list] Mystery Spheres on Mars Finally Identified

[mark ford]

Just a thought, but couldn't the spherules have been formed by slow
boiling water from a cometry impact containing water & iron/minerals? -
Since the atmospheric pressure is very low (and likely has been pretty
thin through most of mars history) any standing water from say a big
comet impact would have begun to boil would it not? - thereby forming
iron rich spherical minerals...

Anyone fancy boiling a large chunk of tagish lake in water to test the
theory?  :)


Best,
Mark Ford


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[meteorite-list] Mystery Spheres on Mars Finally Identified

[Ron Baalke]

http://space.com/missionlaunches/mars_blueberries_040317.html

Mystery Spheres on Mars Finally Identified
By Leonard David
space.com
17 March 2004

Scientists have learned the composition of the mysterious sphere-shaped
objects scattered across the crater floor at Meridiani Planum, the landing
site of the Opportunity Mars rover.

By using a Mössbauer Spectrometer mounted on Opportunity's robot arm, a
patch of the tiny spherules -- also called "blueberries," although they
aren't blue -- received close examination and have now been identified as
hematite.

The spectrometer is designed to study minerals that contain iron, which are
common on the Martian surface. Also used to pin down the makeup of the
spherules was the rover's Mini-Thermal Emission Spectrometer, a science
instrument that can recognize minerals formed in water.

Meridiani: shallow lake?

This new evidence further supports the hypothesis that the hematite mineral
was likely formed in a past standing body of water. The Meridiani area, it
is thought, was once a shallow lake.

Once Opportunity wheels itself out of its current shallow crater site,
scientists expect the hematite-rich spherules to litter the landscape at
Meridiani Planum.

Philip Christensen, a Mars Exploration Rover scientist from Arizona State
University in Tempe, announced the finding yesterday at the 35th annual
Lunar and Planetary Science Conference being held in Houston, Texas.

Formation via precipitation

"This finding further supports the hypothesis that these interesting 'Mars
balls' are actually sedimentary concretions, rather than any of the other
working hypotheses," said James Garvin, Lead Scientist for Mars Exploration
and the Moon at NASA Headquarters in Washington, D.C.

There have been a variety of contending theories for what may have caused
the unusual mineralogy at Meridiani, including volcanic causes.

Garvin told SPACE.com that this latest finding strongly supports the view
that the rocks in the outcrop at Meridiani have been modified by water -- a
determination made already through other research at the site.

"Hematite as a major compositional phase in the spherules supports their
formation via precipitation, rather than as impact-related fallout," Garvin
said.

"So, the story is getting better... and multiple lines of independent
evidence support water-related chemical 'processing' of the rocks," Garvin
added. "Now all we have to do is figure out what made the rocks in the first
place and how long the water may have been involved in the 'soakings'. What
a fun time!"

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[meteorite-list] UFO Streaks Through Martian Sky

[Ron Baalke]

UFO streaks through Martian sky
By Dr David Whitehouse 
BBC News 
March 18, 2004

The US Spirit rover on Mars has seen a UFO streak across the Red Planet
sky. 

Astronomers say it could be the first meteor seen from the surface of 
another world, or a redundant orbiting spacecraft sent to Mars 30 years 
ago. 

"We may never know, but we are still looking for clues," said Dr Mark 
Lemmon, from Texas A&M University. 

Whatever it was, Spirit was lucky to catch sight of the UFO as the 
rover's main mission is to look downwards to study rocks and soil on 
the planet. 

Unidentified Object 

Only occasionally does it raise its sights towards the sky to study 
the atmosphere of Mars. 

But it was on just such an occasion when Spirit was observing the sky 
with the green filter of its panoramic camera that the roving geologist 
came across the surprise - a streak across the peach-coloured Martian 
heavens. 

Mission controllers say the streak was probably the brightest object 
in the sky at the time. 

If the UFO was not a shooting a star then it could have been one of 
seven out-of-commission spacecraft that still orbit Mars. 

>From the object's motion, scientists do not think it was the Russian 
probes Mars 2, Mars 3, Mars 5, or Phobos 2; or the American probes 
Mariner 9 or Viking 1. 

That leaves Viking 2, which has a polar orbit that would fit with 
the north-south orientation of the streak. 

In addition, only Viking 1 and 2 are in orbits that could produce 
the type of motion as fast as that seen by Spirit. 

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RE: [meteorite-list] new NWA meteorite pieces forsale

[Bernhard \"Rendelius\" Rems]

Sorry, i am a little bit drunk now (had to use this nice spring day for
a couple of beers) - but is this mail exchange for real or just for fun?
*g*
  _  

Best regards,
Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems 

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Hey, PV is just an H6 and worth every penny, so this new H5 must be
better
than PV?
Thanks, Tom
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> Yeah, that was about my first reaction, too *g*: H5 for app. $50/g -
he
> must be kiddin' :-)
>
> A picture would be helpful. Normally, if you know what you are buying,
> Steve is always good for a nice deal. I have nothing to complain
about.
>
>   _
>
> Best regards,
> Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems
>
> CEO   RPGDot Network
>  
>
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>
> Good day Steve and All,
>
> The link to the website with the new NWA specimen doesn't appear to be
> working...at least with my browser.
>
> But, on another note, since when did an NWA, H5 specimen, even with
nice
> metal and "slightly brecciated" become a "very inexpensive(ly)" deal
at
> a cost of as much as $50.00 per gram? ("0.4 grams $20 1.2 cm").
Perhaps
> I'd understand if I could access the photo of the 65.7 gram slice.
Then
> again, maybe not.  I wonder what I am missing here. Someone please
> educate me.
>
> Have a great day All,
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Martyn
>
> In a message dated 3/18/2004 8:21:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Good morning list.I have just aquired a 65.7 gram full slice of a
brand
> new NWA piece.I also have 4 small pieces which I am offering to anyone
> who
> wants to buy them,very inexpensively.
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Re: [meteorite-list] new NWA meteorite pieces forsale

[Tom aka James Knudson]

Hey, PV is just an H6 and worth every penny, so this new H5 must be better
than PV?
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
Proudest member of the YMCA # OU812
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> Yeah, that was about my first reaction, too *g*: H5 for app. $50/g - he
> must be kiddin' :-)
>
> A picture would be helpful. Normally, if you know what you are buying,
> Steve is always good for a nice deal. I have nothing to complain about.
>
>   _
>
> Best regards,
> Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems
>
> CEO   RPGDot Network
>  
>
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>
> Good day Steve and All,
>
> The link to the website with the new NWA specimen doesn't appear to be
> working...at least with my browser.
>
> But, on another note, since when did an NWA, H5 specimen, even with nice
> metal and "slightly brecciated" become a "very inexpensive(ly)" deal at
> a cost of as much as $50.00 per gram? ("0.4 grams $20 1.2 cm").  Perhaps
> I'd understand if I could access the photo of the 65.7 gram slice.  Then
> again, maybe not.  I wonder what I am missing here. Someone please
> educate me.
>
> Have a great day All,
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Martyn
>
> In a message dated 3/18/2004 8:21:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Good morning list.I have just aquired a 65.7 gram full slice of a brand
> new NWA piece.I also have 4 small pieces which I am offering to anyone
> who
> wants to buy them,very inexpensively.
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[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - March 17, 2004

[Ron Baalke]

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Digs with a Jig - sol 72, Mar 17, 2004

Sol 72, which ended at 5:06 a.m. PST on March 17, was a day full of digging 
for NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit. Spirit began the day taking 
panoramic camera and miniature thermal emission spectrometer observations 
of the drift dubbed "Serpent" before creating the "scuff" that would reveal 
the inside material at this location. 

Then it was time to get into position. The rover drove about two-and-a-half 
meters (8.2 feet) to put the left front wheel up onto the drift. It then 
turned right and left five degrees to dig the left front wheel into the 
drift.  When the "shimmy" was complete, Spirit backed 10 centimeters 
(3.9 inches) out of the hole. The digging and backing process was repeated 
four times to thoroughly scuff Serpent's side. Then Spirit backed up 
another meter (3.28 feet) to attain miniature thermal emission 
spectrometer, panoramic camera and navigation camera observations of 
the scuffed area. These observations will aid in in-situ target 
selection. To prepare for the upcoming in-situ work, Spirit drove 
forward 0.4 meters (1.3 feet) for additional imaging, and then drove 
forward a final 0.45 meters (1.5 feet) to put the scuff in the arm 
work volume. 

Spirit spent the rest of the day obtaining navigation camera and 
panoramic camera observations of the intended drive direction around 
part of the crater rim. Spirit will do some work overnight, taking 
miniature thermal emission spectrometer thermal inertia and atmosphere 
measurements. 

On sol 73, which will end at 5:46 a.m. PST on March 18, Spirit will 
conduct extensive microscopic imaging of sections of the drift, and 
run an overnight Moessbauer and alpha particle X-ray spectrometer 
integration.

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RE: [meteorite-list] new NWA meteorite pieces forsale

[Bernhard \"Rendelius\" Rems]

Yeah, that was about my first reaction,
too *g*: H5 for app. $50/g –
he must be kiddin’ J

 

A picture would be helpful. Normally, if
you know what you are buying, Steve is always good for a nice deal. I have
nothing to complain about.

 









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Rems 

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Good day
Steve and All,





 





The link
to the website with the new NWA specimen doesn't appear to be working...at
least with my browser.  





 





But, on
another note, since when did an NWA, H5 specimen, even with nice
metal and "slightly brecciated" become a "very
inexpensive(ly)" deal at a cost of as much as $50.00 per gram? ("0.4 grams
$20 1.2 cm").  Perhaps I'd understand if I could
access the photo of the 65.7 gram slice.  Then again, maybe not.  I
wonder what I am missing here. Someone please educate me.





 





Have a
great day All,





 





Best
Regards,





 





Paul
Martyn





 





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Good morning list.I have just
aquired a 65.7 gram full slice of a brand
new NWA piece.I also have 4 small pieces which I am offering to anyone who
wants to buy them,very inexpensively.










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[meteorite-list] 100-Foot Asteroid To Make Earth Flyby; No Risk Posed

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.smdailyjournal.org/article.cfm?issue=03-18-04&storyID=29085

100-foot asteroid to make Earth fly-by; no risk posed
The Associated Press
March 17, 2004

SAN DIEGO - A 100-foot diameter asteroid will pass within 26,500 miles of 
Earth on Thursday, the closest-ever brush on record by a space rock, NASA 
astronomers said Wednesday.

The asteroid's close flyby, first spied late Monday, poses no risk, NASA 
astronomers stressed.

"It's a guaranteed miss," said astronomer Paul Chodas, of the near-Earth 
object office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

The asteroid, 2004 FH, is expected to make its closest approach at 2:08 p.m. 
PST, streaking over the southern Atlantic Ocean. It should be visible 
through binoculars to stargazers across the southern hemisphere, as well as 
throughout Asia and Europe, said astronomer Steve Chesley, also of JPL.

Professional astronomers around the globe scrambled Wednesday to prepare for 
the flyby, which could provide an unprecedented chance to get a close look 
at the asteroid, he added. The asteroid will pass within the moon's orbit.

Similarly sized asteroids are believed to come as close to Earth on average 
once every two years, but have always escaped detection.

"The important thing is not that it's happening, but that we detected it," 
Chesley said.

Astronomers found the asteroid late Monday during a routine survey carried 
out with a pair of telescopes in New Mexico funded by the National Aeronautics 
and Space Administration. Follow-up observations on Tuesday allowed them to 
pinpoint its orbit.

"It immediately became clear it would pass very close by the Earth," Chesley 
said.

Astronomers have not ruled out that the asteroid and our planet could meet 
again sometime in the future. If the two were to collide, the asteroid likely 
would disintegrate in the atmosphere, Chesley said. 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Interesting asteroid names

[Michel Franco]

Hey !

 (1348) Michel

(14) Irene

 Irene, my so sweet 4 years old daughter :
- " Dad, I like this one in slices, looks like ham.
- Good choice, its an IMB !"


Best

Michel

Michel FRANCO
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BP 16, 100 Chemin des Campènes
74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE

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>
> Hey!
>
> (13852) Ford
>
>
> Best,
> Mark Ford
>
>
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> Now here is a little goodie...:
> (6524) Baalke
>
> And two more outstanding ones:...:
> (6371) Heinlein
> (73491) Robmatson
>
> More listees with their own asteroids?
> Greetings from sunny Berlin,
> Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] new NWA meteorite pieces forsale

[LITIG8NSHARK]

Good day Steve and All,
 
The link to the website with the new NWA specimen doesn't appear to be working...at least with my browser.  
 
But, on another note, since when did an NWA, H5 specimen, even with nice metal and "slightly brecciated" become a "very inexpensive(ly)" deal at a cost of as much as $50.00 per gram? ("0.4 grams $20 1.2 cm").  Perhaps I'd understand if I could access the photo of the 65.7 gram slice.  Then again, maybe not.  I wonder what I am missing here. Someone please educate me.
 
Have a great day All,
 
Best Regards,
 
Paul Martyn
 
In a message dated 3/18/2004 8:21:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good morning list.I have just aquired a 65.7 gram full slice of a brandnew NWA piece.I also have 4 small pieces which I am offering to anyone whowants to buy them,very inexpensively.

[meteorite-list] new NWA meteorite pieces forsale

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!]

Good morning list.I have just aquired a 65.7 gram full slice of a brand
new NWA piece.I also have 4 small pieces which I am offering to anyone who
wants to buy them,very inexpensively.This new meteorite has a TKW of only
1300 grams.Bob cuccharia is holder of the whole stone.I have the second
largest piece, and paul siperia has his 20 grams for classification.It is
an H5,it has green clasts,many chondrules,lots of glitzy metal, and is
slightly brecciated.It will be getting a number very shortly, for it is in
classification even as we speak.You can go to my website and see my piece,
and see what I mean.The 4 pieces that are forsale are these:1.4 gram
fragment 2.6 cm $40,0.9 grams $30 2.3 cm, 0.4 grams $20 1.2 cm, and lastly
micro size 1.1 cm $10.If anyone wants any of these it will be first come
first serve.Again if you go to my homepage on my website, you can see the
new piece that is in my collection.If you want any more info on this
really nice looking piece,you can email bob directly for more info.

  steve arnold, chicago, usa

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I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 
Illinois Meteorites 
website url http://stormbringer60120.com
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[meteorite-list] Recently Discovered Near-Earth Asteroid Makes Record-breaking Approach to Earth (2004 FH)

[Ron Baalke]

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news142.html

Recently Discovered Near-Earth Asteroid Makes Record-breaking Approach to Earth 
Steven R. Chesley
Paul W. Chodas
NASA's Near Earth Object Program Office 
Wednesday, March 17, 2004 

A small near-Earth asteroid (NEA), discovered Monday night by
the NASA-funded LINEAR asteroid survey, will make the
closest approach to Earth ever recorded. There is no danger of a
collision with the Earth during this encounter. 

The object, designated 2004 FH, is roughly 30 meters (100 feet)
in diameter and will pass just 43,000 km (26,500 miles, or about
3.4 Earth diameters) above the Earth's surface on March 18th at
5:08 PM EST (2:08 PM PST, 22:08 UTC). (Close approach details
here). 

On average, objects about the size of 2004 FH pass within this
distance roughly once every two years, but most of these small
objects pass undetected. This particular close approach is unusual
only in the sense that scientists know about it. The fact that an
object as small as asteroid 2004 FH has been discovered now is
mostly a matter of perseverance by the LINEAR team, who are
funded by NASA to search for larger kilometer-sized NEAs, but 
also routinely detect much smaller objects. 

Asteroid 2004 FH's point of closest approach with the Earth will 
be over the South Atlantic Ocean. Using a good pair of binoculars, 
the object will be bright enough to be seen during this close 
approach from areas of Europe, Asia and most of the Southern 
Hemisphere. 

Scientists look forward to the flyby as it will provide them an 
unprecedented opportunity to study a small NEA asteroid up close. 


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[meteorite-list] Park Forest Aniversary Online Show

[RYAN PAWELSKI]

Good Evening List...

I know that this is not really a meteorite sale list, but I was wondering how everyone 
would feel if we held an online meteorite show of some sort during the last weekend of 
every March in commemoration of the Park Forest fall. Over the course of the weekend 
both dealers and collectors could hold and/or participate in special online auctions, 
"spring cleaning" sales, chat room meetings with special guests, and other meteorite 
activities either related to or not related to the Park Forest fall. Maybe a Saturday 
afternoon gathering/hunting of some sort in the Park Forest area? Would anyone be 
interested, or is it just another ridiculous late night idea of mine?  ;  ) 

Yours In Meteorites,

Ryan

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RE: [meteorite-list] Interesting asteroid names

[mark ford]

Hey!

(13852) Ford


Best,
Mark Ford


-Original Message-
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Sent: 17 March 2004 09:59
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Interesting asteroid names

Now here is a little goodie...:
(6524) Baalke

And two more outstanding ones:...:
(6371) Heinlein 
(73491) Robmatson

More listees with their own asteroids?
Greetings from sunny Berlin,
Alex


Ron answered:
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> Done!

> 7610 Sudbury

> Ron B.


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