[meteorite-list] This is censorship!
Yesterday I have sent a news care the crater of the Sirente and never it has not been rendered public, I would appreciate to know why. Racism against the Italians seen the last facts in list? _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Meteorite pairing
I'm sending this out again -- evidently it never made the list. Seems to be a common problem lately... --Rob -Original Message-From: Matson, Robert Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:29 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Meteorite pairing Hi Bob, Could some knowledgeable list member please describe or give a definition as to what "Meteorite Pairing" or "Paired Meteorites" exactly is. I have a vague idea but would like to have a better understanding. The simplest definition is the process whereby it can be reasonably determined that two or more distinct meteorites or meteorite fragments are part of the same fall -- more specifically, that they were all once part of a single body immediately prior to entering the earth's atmosphere. Ican think of at least threeways that one can "pair" meteorites. The most reliable is physical pairing: two fragments that can be unambiguously pieced together. Less reliable is proximity pairing (and in many areas this method is quite unreliable without additional evidence). A third pairing technique is by classification (typically coupled with proximity). The reliability of thismethod really depends on the rarity of the meteorite type. Two weathered H5s found 50 feet apart is obviously not as reliable as two fresh CV3s found a mile apart. I suppose a 4th method would be based on classification alone, though this would be limited to specimens which have something sufficiently distinctive about them (e.g. a fresh fall like Park Forest would certainly qualify). For common meteorite types (H, L, LL), petrologic grade, weathering, shock, fayalite and ferrosilite percentages generally wouldnot be sufficient. Cheers, Rob
[meteorite-list] GIVING AWAY METEORITES AGAIN,PT. 3
Hello and good morning list.I still have a fragment of the new NWA I have left.Plus because of my mishandling,I also have 1.1 gram piece of my new PALOMAS meteorite availabale if anyone wants it.I tend to be clumsy sometimes,and it tends to cost me things which I really hate.Especially when it is my collection.So first come first serve on these 2 pieces.Also a side note,my new display case should hopefully be done this weekend.I can hardly wait.Who wants something for free??? steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Rover special: DaG 735
Hola folks, finally the rovers found out that there is a shergottite-like rock rolling around on Mars' surface! Here my contribution: DaG 735 Libya Found 1996/97 winter Martian basalt (shergottite) Tkw: 588g known as the freshest of that paired DaG-Marses. Partslice, one edge with rind (rind I use to avoid confusions with fusion crust - what an example of integrity I am!) size: 2.7cm x 2.6cm x 0.3cm (thickest side) (1.06 x 1.02 x 3MM) weight: 3.755 grams price: 1000$ (free ship) Paypal, check ect., money back if not satisfied, ect. as always. Sorry for placing again an AD to the list - have to start to raise funds for GifhornEnsisheim. Will be the last one, promised (if someone could tell Big Steve, that 3.5/gm for a Calliham with Huss number is a better steal than many of his others..) Thanks so long. Martin A. IMCA #3825 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Al Mitterling
Sorry for the off topic, but I need to have Al Mitterling contact me as soon as possible! Thanks. Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Schultz to Mitterling Mitterling to Schultz :-)
Hi all but mainly Dave, Sorry also to use this format. I have sent an email off to you but think my email may be getting filtered out of your system. Best! --AL Dave Schultz wrote: Sorry for the off topic, but I need to have Al Mitterling contact me as soon as possible! Thanks. Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rover special: DaG 735
Ops, me again. To avoid misunderstandings: The slice is 1000$ (not per gram) = ~ 266$/g In some days I will post smth more relevant to the list, Emil Cohen's collected meteorite dealer's prices of 1899 (in nowadays values), very interesting. So long! Martin A. - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:15 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Rover special: DaG 735 Hola folks, finally the rovers found out that there is a shergottite-like rock rolling around on Mars' surface! Here my contribution: DaG 735 Libya Found 1996/97 winter Martian basalt (shergottite) Tkw: 588g known as the freshest of that paired DaG-Marses. Partslice, one edge with rind (rind I use to avoid confusions with fusion crust - what an example of integrity I am!) size: 2.7cm x 2.6cm x 0.3cm (thickest side) (1.06 x 1.02 x 3MM) weight: 3.755 grams price: 1000$ (free ship) Paypal, check ect., money back if not satisfied, ect. as always. Sorry for placing again an AD to the list - have to start to raise funds for GifhornEnsisheim. Will be the last one, promised (if someone could tell Big Steve, that 3.5/gm for a Calliham with Huss number is a better steal than many of his others..) Thanks so long. Martin A. IMCA #3825 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] udei station for sale
for those who don't have it yet, i have a 2.6 g udei station on ebay that is at $2.25 now. a good chance to add this strange meteorite to your collection cheap. i also have a cute little sikhote oriented and a plainview slice with possible impact melt brecchia clast. http://cgi6.msn.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=clovisionsinclude=0since=-1sort=3rows=50other cheapies to follow. always cc a back-up to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as hotmail does not work sometimes FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hanging By A Thread On Mars
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/mars-life-04e.html Hanging By A Thread On Mars for Astrobiology Magazine April 21, 2004 Moffett Field - One engineering obstacle to overcome when landing on Mars is the treacherous descent and landing. From start to finish, this mission phase can last six minutes. Because of its nail-biting drama, it is often referred to as the six minutes of hell. If horizontal winds blow the rover's parachute sideways during descent, the precious payload might scrape rather than bounce. That possibility of shear against sandpaper-like soil prompted a relatively late addition to the mission planning. Stabilizing horizontal thrusters were added to compensate if any wind started to tilt the otherwise vertical path. This attention to detail proved invaluable during the first landing attempt. When the Spirit rover descended towards Gusev crater, just such unpredictable winds had to be corrected for. If all had not gone according to plans, the airbag fabric might have ripped catastrophically. On February 12th, the nineteenth day on the other side of the planet for the Opportunity rover, one curious image stood out. The picture was downloaded in the daily batch from a microscopic imager peering onto the pebbly surface. On Sol 19, a long, thin feature surprised the science team. Measuring 6 millimeters long and 60 micrometers across, this thread was smaller than the size of an average human hair. At first glance, many speculated whether the thread might point towards some strange biological origin. The lack of another microscopic image capturing such a thread in view, however, made the science and engineering team's detective work difficult. But using their expertise from so many landing simulations, the rover team set out to test if they could reproduce this feature in the JPL sandbox. A best first guess was that when the rover's airbag hit the surface, tiny threads had been stripped from the fabric and laid out across the martian soil. Their experiment entailed a grab bag of starting materials: Mars soil simulant and airbag fabric made of Vectran (a synthetic material stronger than Kevlar, which is tough enough to qualify for bulletproof vests). Placing Vectran threads against the backdrop of simulated Mars soil gave the team a first view of what the microscopic imager might have seen. To recreate similar conditions, the team still needed to know exactly where the rover was on Sol 19. They also wanted to know how its robotic arm turret was positioned for such an extended camera view. The rover's navigation and front hazard avoidance cameras narrowed down their choices to the rim of Eagle Crater. Two airbag marks could be seen nearby. Suddenly two lines of forensic evidence came together: a location near bounce marks and a recreated microscopic scene on Earth with Vectran threads. The threads in Pasadena's sandbox closely resembled what had first surprised scientists nearly a month earlier at Eagle Crater on Mars. The threads of this mystery seemed not to show martian biology in microscopic view, but another kind of throw-away terrestrial biology at work: the airbags had shed fabric and the camera showed human engineering in action. What lesson can be learned from the thread mystery? How does shape itself guide a biological interpretation? One answer is the Knoll criterion. Named after Harvard paleontologist Andrew Knoll, the methodology is cited as one example of not just how a shape might be similar to something biological, but whether a presumption is given to another explanation in the absence of biology. You do your exploration, said Knoll, and if, in the course of that exploration, you find a signal that is (a) not easily accounted for by physics and chemistry or (b) reminiscent of signals that are closely associated with biology on Earth, then you get excited. What will happen then, I can guarantee you, is that 100 enterprising scientists will go into the lab and see how, if at all, they can simulate what you see - without using biology. This is an extension of Carl Sagan's classic comment, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] More on Shipping, etc.
Hi All, My current job requires a lot of shipping. We average about 50 shipments a day so I've seen some real horror stories... Regarding the fragile warning Michael mentioned, our UPS guy warned us to not write any warnings on the boxes. They're having a lot of labor relations issues right now. I didn't know the same problem existed with the USPS, but it doesn't surprise me. Thanks for the warning Michael. UPS does a pretty good job for us, but smaller padded envelopes tend to get lost more frequently. Our smaller stuff goes USPS except when we require tracking (for a very large or suspicious order). We found that we saved about $4 per order, so it's worth the trip to the post (UPS comes to our door). We haven't had any orders lost since this became our policy (about 1.5 years). So it doesn't seem to be risky to use first class w/o confirmation (although it's an easy choice when using company funds). When shipping for yourself, it is a more difficult decision. Regarding survivability, I found that the combination of oversized boxes and a lot of padding is the key. Even though a box can be driven over (happens every few months), you would be surprised to find that most items won't be damaged if properly packaged. And when you think about it, a slightly oversized box isn't going to change the weight significantly. Plus if you buy your boxes in bulk, a slightly larger size will only be 2 or 3 cents extra per unit. For some of the more fragile items, we'll double box, (even small items). As a manufacturer, the cost is worth the peace of mind and saved time. Not to mention making life easier for our customers. I have never received a damaged meteorite. Only once have I received a severely damaged box (Priority mail). Since the Hupe's packaged the meteorites carefully, there was no danger to them. I have received some shipments that have made me worry. Had an envelope been torn or crushed, the specimens would have been severely damaged (more likely lost). I've received some international shipments that fell into the same category. Luckily none of them have been abused by the shipper. To be fair, most of those (domestic) dealers charged very little for shipping. So I suppose I received what I paid for. An aside for the dealers: If description cards are placed inside a zip lock baggie with a meteorite, they are usually damaged in some way. For most collectors that's probably not an issue. I hope that my company's policies aren't impractical or too expensive for most on this list. I hope many will find my comments useful, and maybe the points given by all to date will help prevent damage to precious specimens. I personally think that what I pay for meteorites is a bargain, and that customer service is exceptional 99.9% of the time. I very much appreciate all the dealers who have sold me beautiful specimens the last couple of years. Keep up the great work! Happy hunting/collecting/selling/studying, etc., Mark Mark A. Bowling VAIL, AZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Escoria / boxes In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:34:53 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is one of the primary reasons I send EVERYTHING Priority Mail. It is very safely boxed. (exceptions are use of Registered Mail, in boxes, for overseas and material over $1,000 in value) This post is NOT meant to be a MICHAEL BLOOD justification: It IS meant to point out the virtues of priority mail. It's the BOX, folks, it's the box! Not exactly. I sent one of those boxes to a very good customer who emailed me as soon as he received it. He wanted to tell me that he had found the box in his mail box, flat as a pancake, with tire tracks across it. Worse, he knew very well that the box contained a thin-section! Happily the thin-section was in a plastic box, wrapped in lots of bubble-wrap and intact! So I say it is the Bubble-Wrap, I use so much of it my packages should float :-) Anne M. Black __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Escoria / boxes
Michael Blood wrote: Hi Norm I do think your recent comment on it was very interesting and provided thorough clarification. I agree, thanks for the GREAT follow up Norm! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Newly Supercharged Rovers Racing to New Destinations
Newly supercharged rovers racing to new destinations [Image] The Opportunity rover's navigation camera provides a view of the jumbled bedrock lining the rim of Fram Crater in Mars' Meridiani Planum. By James Oberg NBC News space analyst Special to MSNBC April 21, 2004 HOUSTON - When you've proven the existence of a salty lake on Mars, what do you do for an encore? NASA's newly supercharged rovers may be racing toward an answer. I think some of the best stuff may still be ahead, the program's chief scientist said Tuesday. Steven Squyres spoke to MSNBC.com just after his team had seen the first images of Fram Crater, the first crater the Opportunity rover has looked at it in detail since it left Eagle Crater, its interplanetary hole-in-one landing spot on Mars. It was Eagle Crater's perfectly-preserved sediments that yielded the evidence of a Martian shore. Fram Crater, on the other hand, is not so neat. Fram is really busted up, Squyres said excitedly. It's really scrambled, disrupted stuff, with ejecta blocks lying around. He speculated that whatever object had hit the Martian surface to form Fram Crater had been going at a much higher speed than the one that hit to form Eagle Crater. Squyres and his team are also excited by the rovers' newly pumped-up speed. Just two months ago, it was cause for celebration when the Spirit rover traveled nearly 70 feet, or 21 meters, in a day -- shattering by more than three times the record set by the Pathfinder mission in 1997. With the new navigation software installed, Opportunity recently performed a one-day drive of 155 yards, or 142 meters. Release-9 is fantastic, Squyres exulted; We are loving it, especially the mobility. This new speed is what is enabling the rovers to reach exciting new regions to explore. Mini-tornadoes and a long trek for Spirit Spirit has just arrived at a crater dubbed Missoula. While not as rocky as the Bonneville Crater that Spirit explored earlier, it's interesting enough to keep the rover busy for a few days. Along with taking images of the rocks thrown out by this eons-old meteorite impact, Spirit's cameras are scanning the skies to do dust devil fishing: seeking time-lapse images of Martian mini-tornadoes. When captured by cameras on probes orbiting Mars, these mini-tornadoes show up as tall, thin white clouds, casting a shadow and leaving a dark trace on the ground as they move. In Spirit's cameras, nothing has shown up so far but the odds are that persistence will pay off. In a few days, Spirit will head for the hills - the Columbia Hills that were named in honor of the shuttle crew lost last year. We'll proceed at a good purposeful pace so as to arrive when we still have plenty of rover [lifetime] left, Squyres said. As the hills grow closer, the science team will look for specific features. First is bedrock outcrops, Squyres said, adding that photos from space show that a lot of material was eroded out of the area by massive floods. The hills probably are remnants of that erosion and could show distinctive signs of the process, and what the region looked like before the floods. We'll be looking for any kinds of layering, Squyres said, and other than that, any things that look different we'll see what Mars gives us. There could be landslides, dead geysers, evaporite beds, towering cliffs showing cross-sections of a billion years of Martian geology, even cave mouths into the hills. Spirit will probably spend the rest of its life wandering these hills. Opportunity hopes to dive deeper Halfway around the planet, Opportunity is exploring the sand dunes of the Meridiani Plains. After the rover finishes with Fram Crater, it will head toward Endurance Crater, a trip of about a week. At Eagle Crater, we saw the upper 30-40 cm of the last chapter of what may be a long and pretty complicated book, Squyres said. It showed us the last dying gasps of a body of water - shallow, salty, evaporating away. But what about earlier chapters in this book? My hope is at Endurance we'll see deeper down and find evidence of sedimentation in deep water, he continued. The rover's instruments should be able to determine this by measuring less salt and more mud in the layers. Clues from images of the crater made by orbiting spacecraft have led Squyres and his team to suspect that at Endurance, layers are exposed not just at the top, but farther down the walls of the crater as well. Once Opportunity sends back images from Endurance, the mission scientists will have some decisions to make. We'll make a very detailed model of the crater, Squyres said, and then we sit down and think real hard about what to do. It may be we can get in, he said, and it may be we can get in but can't get out. Even in that case, if the scientists decide that they can get access to the rest of the book of Mars, they may take the plunge. If Endurance doesn't mark the end for Opportunity, the rover may press on to other regions of interest.
[meteorite-list] Fewer Females Wiped Out Dinosaurs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3647115.stm Fewer females wiped out dinosaurs Dr David Whitehouse BBC News April 21, 2004 Too many males may have been the reason the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, say Leeds University researchers. They believe that dinosaurs may have been like modern-day reptiles such as crocodiles whose sex depends upon the temperature before they were born. The new idea is that the asteroid that struck changed the world's climate causing it to be cooler, which led too many dinosaurs to be born male. The male-female imbalance would have led to their extinction, they say. Sun block You have to feel sorry for the dinosaurs. There they were, the top of the ecological tree, uncontested masters of the world for almost 200 million years when things suddenly start going wrong for them. Although there are some that say they were on their way out before the space rock hit, most experts agree that one or more asteroid impacts probably triggered a series of global changes that killed off the dinosaurs and many other species of life on Earth. Some scientists believe the impacts would have kicked up dust that cooled the air and also triggered volcanic activity that would have created even more dust and ash which would have blocked out the Sun and chilled the Earth. Bad news for the dinosaurs because it is well know that those at the top of the evolutionary pile are especially vulnerable to ecological changes. And, if this new theory is correct, it would not have been much fun being a dinosaur during these troubled times even if you had survived everything nature could hurl at you. If the conditions were not bad enough those that did manage to eke out a meagre living could not find a mate. Preponderance of males No one really knows whether dinosaurs were much like other reptiles, or whether they resembled other animal groups, such as mammals, in some respects. Reptiles have a different type of metabolism to mammals and have various ways of determining the sex of their offspring. In mammals, if a baby gets an X and a Y chromosome, it will be male and if it gets two X chromosomes it will be female, with a few very rare exceptions. Similar mechanisms work for birds, snakes and some reptiles such as lizards. But in crocodilians, turtles and some fish, the temperature at which eggs are incubated can affect the sex of the developing babies. David Miller of the University of Leeds and colleagues ran an analysis that showed a temperature shift could theoretically have led to a preponderance of males. Other studies have shown that when there are too few females, eventually the population eventually dies out. The Earth did not become so toxic that life died out 65 million years ago; the temperature just changed, and these great beasts had not evolved a genetic mechanism (like our Y chromosome) to cope with that, says Dr Sherman Silber, an infertility expert in St Louis who worked on the study. But crocodiles and turtles had already evolved at the time of the great extinction 65 million years ago. How did they survive? These animals live at the intersection of aquatic and terrestrial environments, in estuarine waters and river beds, which might have afforded some protection against the more extreme effects of environmental change, hence giving them more time to adapt, the researchers say. But some experts are not convinced by the idea. More than 50% of all species that lived prior to the mass extinction were wiped out. In fact, the dinosaurs were not among the most numerous of the casualties - the worst hit organisms were those in the oceans, said Benny Pieser of Liverpool John Moores University. I am afraid sex-selection mechanisms are an unlikely cause for the termination of the age of dinosaurs - despite the sexed-up headlines. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Express Image: Western flank of Olympus Mons
http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM59O67ESD_0.html Western flank of Olympus Mons Mars Express European Space Agency 21 April 2004 [Image] These images from ESA's Mars Express show the western flank of the shield volcano Olympus Mons in the Tharsis region of the western Martian hemisphere. These images were taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) during orbit 143 from an altitude of 266 kilometres. They were taken with a resolution of about 25 metres per pixel and are centred at 222° East and 22° North. North is to the right. The images show the western flank of Olympus Mons and the escarpment at lower left rises from the surface level to over 7000 metres. At the top of the image, part of the extensive plains west of the escarpment are shown, known as the 'aureole' (from the Latin for 'circle of light'). [Image] Western flank of Olympus Mons in 3D To the north and west of the volcano, these 'aureole' deposits are regions of gigantic ridges and blocks extending some 1000 kilometres from the summit like petals of a flower. The origin of the deposits has challenged planetary scientists for an explanation for decades. The most persistent explanation, however, has been landslides. Large masses of shield material can be found in the aureole area. Several indications also suggest a development and resurfacing connected to glacial activity. [Image] The colour image has been created from the nadir and three colour channels. Image resolution has been decreased to 50%. The anaglyph (3D) image has been created from the nadir channel (vertical view) and one stereo channel of the HRSC. This 3D image above requires stereoscopic glasses to view. [Image] Perspective view of flank of Olympus Mons [Image] Close-up perspective view of flank of Olympus Mons __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - April 15-21, 2004
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES April 15-21, 2004 The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available: o Mesa in Granicus Valles (Released 15 April 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/04/15/index.html o Collapsed Subsurface Channel (Released 16 April 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/04/16/index.html o Fretted Terrain Valley (Released 17 April 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/04/17/index.html o North Mid-latitude Crater (Released 18 April 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/04/18/index.html o Dusty Collapse Pit (Released 19 April 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/04/19/index.html o Buttes in Memnonia (Released 20 April 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/04/20/index.html o Pit Chain on Olympus (Released 21 April 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/04/21/index.html All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been in Mars orbit since September 1997. It began its primary mapping mission on March 8, 1999. Mars Global Surveyor is the first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, DC. Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet Bradfield
Hi Bernd, Hello Mark and List, I may have totally misread your post, so forgive me if you already knew this information. If I did misunderstand, please let me know what you meant. Now, this was very *diplomatic* ;-) Of course, It was me who blundered. I thought the article was referring to Comet Bradfield 1979l, whereas it was actually about William Bradfield's latest discovery. Anyone interested in reading about it, go there: http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/comets/article_1238_1.asp http://www.popastro.com/home.htm Best wishes, Thank you, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Harvill to Nininger Letter; April 18, 1952
(University of Arizona letterhead) University of Arizona OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT TUCSON April 18, 1952 Dr. H. H. Nininger American Meteorite Museum P.O Box 1171 Winslow, Arizona Dear Dr. Nininger: I thank you for your letter of April 14, with which you enclose a report of your second trip to Mexico. I am pleased to have this report and shall submit to the committee that has been advising me with respect to the exploration and research work that you have been doing in Mexico. I do not know whether the University will find it possible to publish any of the material that describes your work in Mexico. Sincerely yours, (signed) Richard A. Harvill President RAH:mr bl.vv.cc.: Dr. S.E. Perry Dr. E. F. Carpenter Dean D. L. Patrick Dean T. G. Chapman Mark Note: This letter tells us who the members of the "Perry Fund" Committee are.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Harvill to Perry Letter; April 18, 1952
(University of Arizona letterhead) University of Arizona OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT TUCSON April 18, 1952 Dr. Stuart H. Perry Adrian, Michigan Dear Dr. Perry: At the meeting of the board of Regents on April 11 I reported regarding the work of Dr. Nininger had been doing in Mexico on meteorites and explained your generosity in offering to provide the University with $2,000.00 to defray the cost of the work being done by Dr Nininger. The members of the Board were pleased to learn of your interest and your willingness to make possible through financial support the exploration and research work, and they wanted me to extend to you their very special and genuine thanks for the interest that is represented by this support. I explained to the Board the basis of which the agreement had been worked out, whereby Dr. Nininger would be paid in fees for services rendered and would pay the cost of the exploration and research from these sums. This was entirely satisfactory to the Board. I am, therefore, pleased to advise you that everyone is in complete accord in approving of your proposal. With my repeated thanks to you and my warm personal regards, Sincerely yours, (signed) Richard A. Harvill President RAH:mrPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Weird Meteorite May Be From Mars Moon
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4902 'Weird' meteorite may be from Mars moon Jenny Hogan New Scientist April 21, 2004 A unique meteorite that fell on a Soviet military base in Yemen in 1980 may have come from one of the moons of Mars. Several meteorites from the Red Planet have been found on Earth, but this could be the only piece of Martian moon rock. Andrei Ivanov, who is based at the Vernadsky Institute of Geochemistry and Analytical Chemistry in Moscow, Russia, spent two decades puzzling over the fist-sized Kaidun meteorite before he decided that it must be a chip off Phobos, the larger of the two Martian moons. I can't find a better candidate, Ivanov told New Scientist. The Kaidun meteorite is like no other in the world - and 23,000 of them have been catalogued. It is made of many small chunks of material, including minerals never seen before. Working with Michael Zolensky of the NASA Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, Ivanov used an electron microscope to look at the space rock's crystal structure, peered through its minerals using X-rays and vaporised fragments to catalogue the elements inside. And every sample turned out to be something new and weird, says Zolensky. Volcanic debris Among the odd materials in the meteorite were two fragments of volcanic rock - which only forms in massive, planet-like bodies with a core, mantle and crust. But much of the meteorite is a kind of carbon-rich material that only occurs in asteroids. Zolensky thinks this paradox could be resolved if the meteorite comes from a Martian moon. Both Phobos and Deimos are thought to be asteroids captured by Mars as they wandered through space. That would explain the carbonaceous material. And the pieces of volcanic rock could be bits of Mars, thrown into orbit when other asteroids crashed into the planet. Phobos is the more likely candidate: it orbits only 6000 kilometres from the planet's surface, much closer than Deimos, and so has probably mopped up a lot more fragments of Mars rock. The idea is plausible, if somewhat speculative, says Sara Russell, a meteorite expert at the Natural History Museum in London. There have been no landers sent to Phobos and so almost nothing is known about the composition and geology of this body. Zolensky thinks that an unusual asteroid could have been the source. Hope of resolving the mystery rests with the European Space Agency, which has been asked by UK scientists to consider sending a mission to Phobos as part of its Mars exploration programme. Journal reference: Solar System Research (vol 38, p 97) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Auctions Ending Tonight! Some Rock Bottom Prices!!!
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Camel Donga 27 gram ind. for $50
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RE: [meteorite-list] This is censorship!
Censorship is unlikely; there has been a number of e-mails that were delayed in making it to the list, lately. My e-mail about my Escoria fragment took more than 24 hours to appear on the list. Yours may just be delayed in transit. If it doesn't appear in another day or so, try resending it; some e-mails simply disappear for unknown reasons. Tracy Latimer From: Mauro Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] This is censorship! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:55:20 + Yesterday I have sent a news care the crater of the Sirente and never it has not been rendered public, I would appreciate to know why. Racism against the Italians seen the last facts in list? _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlbpgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
