[meteorite-list] Weekly eBayMeteorites

2004-04-26 Thread Steve Schoner


Hello all, I invite everyone to take a look at this weeks eBay offerings at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eBayMeteorites/ Check it out. Steve Schoner 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Directions to American Meteorite Museum

2004-04-26 Thread Walter Branch



Hi Gregory,
 
I agree.  Neat photos.  Thanks for sharing.
 
Do you know what part of the building was on the other side of that wall 
with the giant hole?
 
-Walter
--www.branchmeteorites.com

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  From: 
  Jose Campos 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 5:54 
PM
  Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] Directions 
  to American Meteorite Museum
  
  Hi Gregory,
   
  Tks for sharing your pics.
  The one of the Museum in its heydey is certainly a most interesting 
  document of historical info!
   
  José Campos
   Portugal
   
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 6:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Directions to American Meteorite 
  Museum
  
  
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Does anyone have good instructions on how to locate the old 
museum?  Do we need to contact anyone about prowling the 
property?
  The ruins of the museum are impossible to miss, once you've turned gotten 
  to the Meteor Crater exit from the highway.  As you head off the highway 
  and begin to go toward the crater, there will be a gas station on your right, 
  and a road that leads toward the fully-visible Museum ruins on your 
  left.  That old road toward the Museum is (barely) paved, and it may 
  or may not be actual Route 66 pavement.  Nininger's Museum was always 
  advertised as being right on Route 66 but I'm still unsure if the road from 
  the gas station to the Museum is actually a remnant of "The Mother Road" or 
  not.
   
  As to permission/accessibility, I've heard various reports -- it seems to 
  depend on whom you talk to.  When I went there for the first time, I 
  had been told in advance that the Museum ruins were on private property 
  and trespassers would be prosecuted if caught.  However, in chatting with 
  employees of that nearby gas station, they said, "Sure, no problem, go on 
  up and take a look." So I did.   ;-)
   
  The Museum in its heyday:
   
  http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/AMM.jpg
   
  And the way it looks now (with the rim of the crater in the 
  distance)
   
  http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/AMM2.jpg
  http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/AMM3.jpg
   
  Have fun!
   
     GregoryJ. Gregory 
  Wilson2118 Wilshire Blvd. #918 Santa Monica, CA 
  90403USA(310) 913-2598
  
  

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RE: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Found in Canada

2004-04-26 Thread Dennis Beatty


 
Two thoughts came to mind while regarding the article below...
 
1)  Doesn't Canada have some kind of moratorium on sales of meteorites from their country??
 
2)  What type of disability prevents you from working but allows you the ability to go hunting??  While I don't believe in hunting, I could certainly use that type of "disability" to work on my soccer game!!   <>
 
Dennis

 

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Hope he doesn't  start spending money he doesn't have and never will get.
I hate the way the media sensationalizes every meteorite find.  This guy is going to be disappointed when reality sets in.
Randy
>From: Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>Subject: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Found in Canada 
>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:41:20 -0700 (PDT) 
> 
> 
> 
>http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=d78a3433-e1a9-4093-9b21-30a876345b7d 
> 
>Hunter hits meteorite pay dirt 
>CanWest News Services 
>April 26, 2004 
> 
>A Winnipeg man down on his luck has hit pay dirt with a couple of strange 
>rocks he found on a hunting trip. 
> 
>Scientists have confirmed Derek Erstelle's finds are meteorite fragments 
>containing among the rarest and oldest materials in the solar system -- and 
>are potentially worth $100,000. The news couldn't have come at a better 
>time for Erstelle, 47, who has been out of work and on disability for four 
>years. 
> 
>"I'm hoping this will clean things up a bit . . . I could certainly use 
>it," Erstelle said. 
> 
>Martin Beech, who teaches astronomy at the University of Regina, said 
>the rocks are meteorite fragments from the core of an asteroid that was 
>involved in a collision with another asteroid millions of years ago. 
> 
>"Asteroid material is the first material that formed in the solar system," 
>Beech said. 
> 
>He said collectors would eagerly pay $10 per gram for Erstelle's rare 
>find. The two fragments weigh a combined 9.8 kilograms, which could net 
>Erstelle a cool $100,000. 
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[meteorite-list] Second Mars Rover Successfully Completes Primary Mission

2004-04-26 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/science/20040426-1515-ca-marsrovers.html

Second Mars rover successfully completes primary mission
By Andrew Bridges
ASSOCIATED PRESS
April 26,2004

LOS ANGELES - The second of NASA's twin Mars rovers wrapped up its 
primary mission on Monday, the 90th full day Opportunity has spent 
on the Red Planet since landing late in January on a broad, dry 
plain it's since discovered was once drenched in water.  

NASA expects the six-wheeled Opportunity to continue working through 
September or longer, possibly tripling in duration its planned 
mission of just 90 days. It's traveled 2,676 feet so far across Mars. 

"We're ready, willing and able to carry on with the extended mission," 
said deputy project manager Jim Erickson, of NASA's Jet Propulsion 
Laboratory. 

As of Monday, Opportunity and its twin, Spirit, have completed all 
the baseline tasks NASA required before the space agency would 
consider the double mission a success.

Each identical rover traveled at least 1,980 feet, took stereo and 
color panoramas of its surroundings, drove to at least eight 
locations and operated simultaneously with its twin for 60 days. 

Spirit is already well into its own extended mission. It began on 
Monday its 112th day on Mars, halfway around the planet from its 
twin. 

The goal of the $835 million double mission is to scour Mars for 
geologic evidence that the planet once was a wetter place capable 
of sustaining life. Opportunity has found that evidence in spades 
at Meridiani Planum, where rocks suggest a shallow sea covered the 
region at one time in the distant past. 

It's now about 660 feet from Endurance Crater, a broad basin that 
scientists hope preserves in its rocky rim further evidence of the 
region's watery past. The crater appears too steep for the rover 
to enter, Erickson said. 

On the opposite side of Mars, Spirit has found evidence of only 
limited amounts of past moisture at Gusev Crater. 

Spirit is now about 50 days from reaching the Columbia Hills, 
where it likely will spend the balance of its mission prospecting 
for traces of more substantial amounts of water, said Mike Carr, 
of the U.S. Geological Survey. 

Scientists believe the Columbia Hills could contain deposits laid 
down in the past, when a lake may have filled the vast impact 
crater that Spirit landed in three weeks before Opportunity. 

While en route, Spirit recently passed the one-kilometer (.62-mile) 
mark, Erickson said. 

Mechanical breakdowns and the fierce martian cold likely will be 
the death of the rovers, which will remain on Mars once their 
mission ends. 
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[meteorite-list] JPL Open House Takes Visitors to the Planets and Beyond

2004-04-26 Thread Ron Baalke


MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE
JET PROPULSION LABORATORY
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov

Natalie Godwin (818) 354-0850

NEWS RELEASE: 2004-110   April 26, 2004

JPL Open House Takes Visitors to the Planets and Beyond

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., will hold an
open house on Sat. and Sun., May 15 and 16, from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.,
taking visitors on a virtual ride through the solar system with this
year's theme, "The Spirit of Exploration." 

This fun-filled, family event has a little of everything for space
enthusiasts and non-space buffs. You can explore the planets as you
walk through a model of the solar system, build your own spacecraft,
and have your picture taken in infrared light. Visitors will have the
opportunity to meet with scientists and engineers, who will staff
booths to answer questions about current and future missions. 

Structured around the themes of technology, Earth, Mars, our solar
system and the universe, visitors will see and learn more about how
missions come together. Watch student-built robots compete and see
your friends fly in space. Learn about the devices scientists use to
explore our planet, from the ground below to the outer reaches of
Earth's atmosphere. Or follow the water to Mars through a tour of the
laboratory designed for test-driving robotic vehicles destined for
Mars. Kids will get the chance to be rolled over by a rover. Learn how
we communicate with the spacecraft currently exploring the solar
system. See the world's lightest solid.  Watch "Ring World," a
multimedia presentation on the Cassini mission to Saturn, shown in
planetariums around the globe.  

Admission is free. No backpacks or ice chests are allowed, with the
exception of small purses and diaper bags. Visitors, vehicles and
personal belongings are subject to inspection. JPL is located at 4800
Oak Grove Drive in Pasadena, off the 210 (Foothill) Freeway at the
Berkshire Avenue/Oak Grove Drive exit.  Parking is available near the
Oak Grove main gate and on the eastern boundary of JPL, accessible
from Windsor Avenue via the Arroyo Boulevard exit off the 210 Freeway.
Air-conditioned buses will run non-stop between all lots and JPL's
main gate. Buses and tour guides will move people between different
locations around the facility. Walking is required to some locations.

More information is available at 

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/pso/oh.html

or call (818) 354-0112. Directions are available at

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/about_JPL/directions.cfm

The California Institute of Technology, also in Pasadena, manages JPL
for NASA.

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[meteorite-list] Nininger to Perry Letter; July 22, 1952

2004-04-26 Thread MARK BOSTICK
 (American Meteorite Museum Letterhead) AMERICAN METEORITE MUSUEM OPPOSITE METEOR CRATER ON HIGHWAY 66 POST OFFICE BOX 1171 WINSLOW ARIZONA   July 22, 1952 Mr. Stuart H. Perry Newagen Inn Newagen, Maine   Dear Stuart: Glad for your letter. Sorry you cannot see your way clear to join in making a permanent set-up but you know your own business, I'm sure. We are thinking of using some of the remaining Perry Fund for work in Arizona - perhaps on some of those leads which we have both received, apparently referring to the old Tucson location. However, I note in several reference to this fund Dr. Harvill has specified that it was for use in old Mexico. I think that I correctly understood you that it was to be used wherever I thought best. Perhaps a note from you to Dr. Harvill would be advisable before we made a field trip within the United States borders or we may get tangled up in red tape again. Of course, if I misunderstood and you did mean it only for Mexico, we are perfectly willing to so use it. Actually, however, our next effort in Mexico may be for the recovery of a big one which is now pretty certainly located; but that will require real money! I'll tell you more when I have seen it. Cordially, (signed) H.H. Nininger HHN: AN
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[meteorite-list] Perry to Nininger Letter; July 15, 1952

2004-04-26 Thread MARK BOSTICK
 (Stuart Perry to Harvey Nininger letter, Perry's File copy) July 15, 1952 Dear Harvey, Thanks for your letter of July 4 and for the check, and please excuse my delay in acknowledging it. I have been pretty busy, first getting settled and organized, and then with the pictures that I am working on for the eighth volume of Album. It is a troublesome job, handling it at this distance from my assistant in Adrian and my man in Ann Arbor. I brought a lot of pix down here, which I had been unable to work on at home. I have to study them, write descriptions and send to Adrian to be copied, and mount the pix on dummy sheets and send them to be mounted permanently. Seems as if every batch of pix and descriptions is held up by something -- two extra prints No. 11, a macro of Roserio, an analysis that I have to get from Washington, another photograph of Smithfield, ect. ect. But it will all get done in the course of time I am sorry I can't give you a favorable answer to the undated letter that you inclosed. It is just too big a proposition for me. It is a good plan, and I were a multi-millionaire it certainly would appeal to me, but with my resources it is just impossible. We are enjoying life here in the finest summer climate I ever knew. It was 98 in Boston yesterday and hot all over Maine; here 74. The other day it was 52 in the morning, maximum 64. Thanks to the cold Greenland current off the coast, and our position at the tip of a long island, it is always cool.  Our best to you and Mrs. Nininger. (Stuart Perry - name is missing as this is the file copy. The original sent to Nininger would have been signed by Perry)   Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Say Giant Meteorite Struck Wisconsin Long Ago

2004-04-26 Thread Mikestockj


Hi all
Here is some additional information on the Rock Elm impact structure. It includes pictures as well a maps of the site. http://physics.uwstout.edu/geo/asteroid_local.htm
Mike
 
 
Mike Jensen IMCA 4264Bill Jensen IMCA 2359Jensen Meteorites16730 E Ada PLAurora, CO 80017-3137303-337-4361Web Site: Jensen Meteorites New Book: Meteorites from A to Z 
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Fw: [meteorite-list] Directions to American Meteorite Museum

2004-04-26 Thread Jose Campos



Hi Gregory,
 
Tks for sharing your pics.
The one of the Museum in its heydey is certainly a most interesting 
document of historical info!
 
José Campos
 Portugal
 
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Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 6:28 AM
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Museum



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone have good instructions on how to locate the old 
  museum?  Do we need to contact anyone about prowling the 
  property?
The ruins of the museum are impossible to miss, once you've turned gotten 
to the Meteor Crater exit from the highway.  As you head off the highway 
and begin to go toward the crater, there will be a gas station on your right, 
and a road that leads toward the fully-visible Museum ruins on your 
left.  That old road toward the Museum is (barely) paved, and it may 
or may not be actual Route 66 pavement.  Nininger's Museum was always 
advertised as being right on Route 66 but I'm still unsure if the road from the 
gas station to the Museum is actually a remnant of "The Mother Road" or 
not.
 
As to permission/accessibility, I've heard various reports -- it seems to 
depend on whom you talk to.  When I went there for the first time, I 
had been told in advance that the Museum ruins were on private property and 
trespassers would be prosecuted if caught.  However, in chatting with 
employees of that nearby gas station, they said, "Sure, no problem, go on 
up and take a look." So I did.   ;-)
 
The Museum in its heyday:
 
http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/AMM.jpg
 
And the way it looks now (with the rim of the crater in the distance)
 
http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/AMM2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/AMM3.jpg
 
Have fun!
 
   GregoryJ. Gregory Wilson2118 
Wilshire Blvd. #918 Santa Monica, CA 90403USA(310) 
913-2598



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[meteorite-list] Re: Hapkeite

2004-04-26 Thread Francis Graham
  Bruce Hapke did indeed predict Hapkeite 30 years
ago!
  It will be interesting to see if NWA 482 from the
farside has it. 
  Bruce Hapke also predicted polysulfur oxides on the
surface of Io, and S2O (disulfur monoxide). He also
suggested polysulfur oxides might be the UV absorber
in Venus' clouds.
  Be nice to live long enough to see if he was right
on that, too.

Francis Graham





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[meteorite-list] New Mineral, Hapkeite, Discovered in Lunar Meteorite

2004-04-26 Thread Ron Baalke


http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/42604-newmineral.html

New Mineral, "Hapkeite", Discovered
Associated Press
April 26, 2004

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A chunk of the moon that landed on Earth as a 
meteorite contains a new mineral, which scientists have named 
after a researcher who years ago predicted the unusual process 
that formed the material.

Grains of the material, made of iron and silicon, were found in 
pieces of a meteorite that was discovered in Oman on the Saudi 
peninsula, said Lawrence A. Taylor of the University of Tennessee, 
a member of the research team that reported the find.

The process that led to the material's formation on the moon "is 
much different than anything we can imagine on Earth," Taylor 
explained.

Small meteorites that would burn up in an atmosphere like Earth's 
can crash into the moon because of its lack of an atmosphere. The 
mineral was found in a piece of the moon that had been large 
enough to make it through the Earth's atmosphere without being 
destroyed.

When that happens, Taylor explained, the impact creates heat that 
melts some of the rocks and forms a vapor that is deposited on 
nearby materials.

The process and discovery of the new material is reported in 
this week's issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of 
Sciences.

Some iron-silicon minerals form on Earth, sometimes as a result 
of lightning strikes, but new mineral is a different combination, 
Taylor said. Hapkeite has the chemical formula Fe2Si, indicating 
the presence of two atoms of iron to one of silicon.

The researchers named the new mineral hapkeite after Bruce Hapke 
of the University of Pittsburgh, who 30 years ago predicted the 
process that forms this mineral.

"I told them so," said an amused Hapke, who added: "It's quite 
an honor."

He said he developed the theory to explain weathering of 
surface materials in space, a process that darkens the moon's 
surface.

Weathering on Earth creates soil through the action of water, 
oxygen and organic processes. That can't happen on a place 
without water or an atmosphere, so the darkening and breaking 
down of the surface rocks had to be explained in another way.

Benton C. Clark, a weathering expert at Lockheed Martin Corp., 
said the process of forming the moon mineral seems plausible, 
but stressed that it needs to be defined as "space weathering," 
which would be unlike weathering on Earth.

"Naming a mineral after the outstanding scientist Bruce Hapke 
is a fitting tribute," he said.

Robert Craddock, science adviser for the Smithsonian 
Institution's undersecretary for science, said the paper 
explains some of the spectral measurements researchers read 
when they study airless planets. Measurements of the spectrum 
of reflected light are used to help determine the presence of 
minerals.

The newly found mineral, he added, is one of a number of 
minerals predicted as possible a result of space weathering. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Map to the American Meteorite Museum

2004-04-26 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Al and list,   The "unsure" comment was Gregory's, but thank you for looking that up for us.     During one of my trips to the crater, the guide tour mentioned that the man behind deciding where Route 66 would be was a friend of Barringer's. The guard tour hinted that Barringer talked this man into making the road come by the crater.  I don't know if there is any fact in that and the guard tour didn't seem to know either.  So I guess this is more just an urban legend.  Route 66 was needed because of the many servicemen in San Diego.  Logic would tell me it makes more sense to have the road cut across Northern Arizona, where many tourist attractions are, rather then other parts of the state, mostly empty. So I guess you can just consider this food for thought.     Mark www.meteoritearticles.com    
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Re: [meteorite-list] Map to the American Meteorite Museum

2004-04-26 Thread almitt
MARK BOSTICK wrote:

Nininger's Museum was always advertised as being right on Route 66 but I'm still
unsure if the road from the gas station to the Museum is actually a remnant of "The
Mother Road" or not."


Hi Mark and all,

While surfing the net one time, I ran across a route 66 website which was telling
about different sections that the old route took. Mainly for those wanting to go down
the route where they could. Some areas now are impossible to travel or unsafe. He had
it laid out in different sections. On one of those sections he shows the Nininger
Museum ruins and asked if anyone could shed some light on the ruins (of which I did).
These people have good detailed information on the old route and according to this
fellow that is indeed the old route 66 road that runs in front of the museum or to the
south of it between the museum and the crater. All my best!

--AL

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Re: [meteorite-list] footage

2004-04-26 Thread almitt
Hi Jo,

Not sure if I know which fall you are referring to but sounds like a combination of
several falls. Probably the one you want is the Peekskill Fall which actually struck a
car (red Malibu) and left a large dent in the trunk. Michael Knapp was inside watching
TV when the event occurred. This was one of the wide spread witnessed falls that was
video taped.

Somewhere on the net there is a video of this fall. You can go to AL Lang's website
and look at the car and the Peekskill Meteorite.

There was a fall (before video was in widespread use) which fell on a house in Alabama
and ended up hitting the thigh of the lady who was in the house also. Also some houses
in Weston, Conn. and of course the more recent Park Forest fall which hit a house
while a young boy was asleep.

One other good website would be Walter Branches website as he has various meteor falls
that have hit things. All my best!

--AL

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RE: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Found in Canada

2004-04-26 Thread harlan trammell
yea, kinda like the statesboro meteorite on ebay- "owner has refused an offer of $25,000"-  he'll wind up soaking it in heinz 57 and , putting ti in the toaster oven and eating it for dinner.
always cc a back-up to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as hotmail does not work sometimes>From: "Randy Mils" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Found in Canada >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:47:56 -0700 > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list  Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! 
Hope he doesn't  start spending money he doesn't have and never will get.
I hate the way the media sensationalizes every meteorite find.  This guy is going to be disappointed when reality sets in.
Randy
>From: Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meteorite Mailing List) 
>Subject: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Found in Canada 
>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:41:20 -0700 (PDT) 
> 
> 
> 
>http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=d78a3433-e1a9-4093-9b21-30a876345b7d 
> 
>Hunter hits meteorite pay dirt 
>CanWest News Services 
>April 26, 2004 
> 
>A Winnipeg man down on his luck has hit pay dirt with a couple of strange 
>rocks he found on a hunting trip. 
> 
>Scientists have confirmed Derek Erstelle's finds are meteorite fragments 
>containing among the rarest and oldest materials in the solar system -- and 
>are potentially worth $100,000. The news couldn't have come at a better 
>time for Erstelle, 47, who has been out of work and on disability for four 
>years. 
> 
>"I'm hoping this will clean things up a bit . . . I could certainly use 
>it," Erstelle said. 
> 
>Martin Beech, who teaches astronomy at the University of Regina, said 
>the rocks are meteorite fragments from the core of an asteroid that was 
>involved in a collision with another asteroid millions of years ago. 
> 
>"Asteroid material is the first material that formed in the solar system," 
>Beech said. 
> 
>He said collectors would eagerly pay $10 per gram for Erstelle's rare 
>find. The two fragments weigh a combined 9.8 kilograms, which could net 
>Erstelle a cool $100,000. 
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RE: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Found in Canada

2004-04-26 Thread Randy Mils

Hope he doesn't  start spending money he doesn't have and never will get.
I hate the way the media sensationalizes every meteorite find.  This guy is going to be disappointed when reality sets in.
Randy
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meteorite Mailing List) 
>Subject: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Found in Canada 
>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:41:20 -0700 (PDT) 
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> 
>http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=d78a3433-e1a9-4093-9b21-30a876345b7d 
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>Hunter hits meteorite pay dirt 
>CanWest News Services 
>April 26, 2004 
> 
>A Winnipeg man down on his luck has hit pay dirt with a couple of strange 
>rocks he found on a hunting trip. 
> 
>Scientists have confirmed Derek Erstelle's finds are meteorite fragments 
>containing among the rarest and oldest materials in the solar system -- and 
>are potentially worth $100,000. The news couldn't have come at a better 
>time for Erstelle, 47, who has been out of work and on disability for four 
>years. 
> 
>"I'm hoping this will clean things up a bit . . . I could certainly use 
>it," Erstelle said. 
> 
>Martin Beech, who teaches astronomy at the University of Regina, said 
>the rocks are meteorite fragments from the core of an asteroid that was 
>involved in a collision with another asteroid millions of years ago. 
> 
>"Asteroid material is the first material that formed in the solar system," 
>Beech said. 
> 
>He said collectors would eagerly pay $10 per gram for Erstelle's rare 
>find. The two fragments weigh a combined 9.8 kilograms, which could net 
>Erstelle a cool $100,000. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Say Giant Meteorite Struck Wisconsin Long Ago

2004-04-26 Thread Mikestockj


Hi all
Here is some additional information on the Rock Elm impact structure. It includes pictures as well a maps of the site. http://physics.uwstout.edu/geo/asteroid_local.htm
Mike
 
 
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[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Found in Canada

2004-04-26 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=d78a3433-e1a9-4093-9b21-30a876345b7d

Hunter hits meteorite pay dirt
CanWest News Services
April 26, 2004

A Winnipeg man down on his luck has hit pay dirt with a couple of strange
rocks he found on a hunting trip.

Scientists have confirmed Derek Erstelle's finds are meteorite fragments
containing among the rarest and oldest materials in the solar system -- and 
are potentially worth $100,000. The news couldn't have come at a better 
time for Erstelle, 47, who has been out of work and on disability for four
years.

"I'm hoping this will clean things up a bit . . . I could certainly use 
it," Erstelle said.

Martin Beech, who teaches astronomy at the University of Regina, said 
the rocks are meteorite fragments from the core of an asteroid that was 
involved in a collision with another asteroid millions of years ago.

"Asteroid material is the first material that formed in the solar system," 
Beech said.

He said collectors would eagerly pay $10 per gram for Erstelle's rare 
find. The two fragments weigh a combined 9.8 kilograms, which could net 
Erstelle a cool $100,000.

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[meteorite-list] Scientists Say Giant Meteorite Struck Wisconsin Long Ago

2004-04-26 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-04-26-meteorite-rock-elm_x.htm

Scientists say giant meteorite struck Wisconsin long ago
By Juliet Williams
Associated Press
April 26, 2004

WAVERLY, Wis. - The muddy brown hills and rolling farmland here 
look like others in Wisconsin. Tall grasses, cornfields and a 
bubbling brook yield to rocky outcroppings and rows of trees. 

But scientists years ago saw something different about those
rocks and concluded an ancient catastrophic event occurred here,
although what type of calamity remained a mystery. 

They believe they have finally solved the puzzle: A 650- to
700-foot meteorite crashed into the earth at a speed possibly
reaching 67,500 mph. 

The impact 450 million years ago dislodged rocks and created a
massive hole in a 4-mile area called Rock Elm about 70 miles
east of Minneapolis, three scientists said in an article published
in the Geological Society of America Bulletin.

Over time, shale, dirt and sediment filled the hole to make the
impact site virtually indistinguishable from the surrounding land.
A shallow sea covering Wisconsin at the time of the impact
likely blunted the meteorite's effect. 

The report said the impact at Rock Elm released more than 1,000
megatons of explosive energy, lifted the earth at the center more
than 1,650 feet and sent shock waves through the rocks, crushing
them. 

"They were at ground zero, so they got the brunt of it," said
William S. Cordua, of the University of Wisconsin-River Falls,
and one of the paper's authors. 

The confirmation of what happened here millions of years ago is
significant to geologists seeking to trace geological patterns,
said Don Yeomans, an astronomer at NASA's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. 

Although they're not spectacular looking, to Cordua and other
scientists the rocks here have always appeared different than
those just a few miles away. They're tipped at an angle in many
places, reflecting the damage inflicted millions of years ago. 

Worldwide, there are only about 200 such impact formations, and 
only a couple dozen in the United States. They are believed
to have occurred only every few hundred thousand years. 

The first modern indication of anything wrong here came in 1942, 
when a UW-Madison graduate student spotted the differences in 
soil and quartz and mapped out the area for more study. 

"Mostly after its discovery it was pretty well ignored," said 
Bevan M. French, a former NASA geologist who is a research
collaborator at the Smithsonian Institution. Even so, the area 
has been known among amateur geologists and farmers as an
anomaly. 

Since the 1980s, Cordua has trudged through grassy fields and 
muddy bogs looking for answers about Rock Elm. He started 
writing about the formation in 1985, and although he suspected 
it was formed by a meteorite, he couldn't prove it. 

"What I've been trying to do is hope that people who study 
more of these things would get interested in it. And that 
finally happened," Cordua said. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hollow Meteorite Article

2004-04-26 Thread Michael L Blood
OK,
Finally "cured" the web site problem. For those interested, here
is the "Hollow Meteorite" article that appeared in the old METEORITE
Mag. when it still had an exclamation point in the title:

http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/HollowMet.html

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[meteorite-list] footage

2004-04-26 Thread Jo Clark
Dear all,

I am trying to track down some footage of a meteorite which went through
a house while a lady was watching TV.  Would anyone happen to know which
area of the US and time scale this occurred?

If anyone knows of any other great video footage of meteorites traveling
through our atmosphere or causing destruction I would be really very
grateful for the help.

Many thanks and kind regards

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[meteorite-list] Crappy map, NOT MUCH There to miss.

2004-04-26 Thread David Freeman
Dear List and Mark;
I will have to say that Mark's map is about as succinct and direct and 
accurate as it is in the field at the location.  Sometimes in Life and 
in meteorites, less is in deed, more.  Having said that, I rest my case.
Thanks Mark!
Dave F.

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[meteorite-list] Map to the American Meteorite Museum

2004-04-26 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Gregory, Tracy and list,   Gregory wrote, "The ruins of the museum are impossible to miss, once you've turned gotten to the Meteor Crater exit from the highway.  As you head off the highway and begin to go toward the crater, there will be a gas station on your right, and a road that leads toward the fully-visible Museum ruins on your left.  That old road toward the Museum is (barely) paved, and it may or may not be actual Route 66 pavement.  Nininger's Museum was always advertised as being right on Route 66 but I'm still unsure if the road from the gas station to the Museum is actually a remnant of "The Mother Road" or not."   The museum is located on Route 66 and as Gregory noticed it is directly beside the gas station..but maybe 1/4 mile from it.  The museum is the only building in that small little area so it is impossible to miss.  I noticed the museum from about a mile away  Interesting to note is that an Eagle (or a Hawk) nest has been built in the top of the tower.  While I hope nobody disturbs the nest, it is nice to see that the tower is currently a home.   On a recent trip to the museum ruin's a local was examining the site with me.  After much thought he turned to me and said, "Can you believe the Indians made such a site so long ago."  I explained the history of the museum and mentioned a few other sites that were built in the same manner in Northern Arizona.  I think everywhere you go locals are pretty good at using what is available.  However, I think I would have looked a little harder for other building materials.   I have made a really quick map and have put it on the Kansas Meteorite Society website, since it is Nininger information, and my website is almost out of extra space.     http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com/niningermuseummap.html   First person to e-mail me their address can have this somewhat crappy map for free.     Mark Bostick wwwmeteoritearticles.com    
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[meteorite-list] old museum

2004-04-26 Thread dominique padirac
Hello, for me, it was impossible to go there. I just was on the road, I saw 
the ruins far away and a guard say me "stop here". Why ? No answer from the 
guard, no explanation,  just "stop here!" 
I was very disappointed
Dominique Padirac
Lyon (France)

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