Re: [meteorite-list] Rumurutite & Kakangarite

[Kashuba, Ontario, California]

Dear List,
Here is a portion of my thin section of Ouzina R4.
http://www.johnkashuba.com/TS%20Ouzina%20R4.html
John Kashuba
Ontario, California
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rumurutite & Kakangarite


This meteorite (Nwa 3098) looks a lot like some material I have...NWA 
1774.

NWA 1774
R3.8 - 6  (not R5)
714 g TKW
Found 2002
I have some NWA 1774 and a thin section for sale if anyone is interested.
JD

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G'day Bernd & Francesco,
Ah yes. What a beauty NWA 3098 is! It is also this month's favourite at 
my
site. There is a pic of the meteorite at the below link. Very interesting
meteorite!

http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/favourite.html
Cheers,
Jeff Kuyken
I.M.C.A. #3085
www.meteorites.com.au

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rumurutite & Kakangarite

Francesco wrote:
> Why on the classification page the R and K meteorite are
> Chondrite and just 6 pages after them become Achondrite?
> Maybe I misunderstood something?
Francesco, Rumurutiites and Kakangariites are clearly chondritic.
Let's take the LEW 87232 Kakangari-type Antarctic meteorite. The
thin section does show chondrules and chondrule fragments.
As for the R-chondrites, although the lower types have relatively
few chondrules, they do have them. Ouzina (R4) is even said to have
abundant barred olivine and porphyritic chondrules. I don't have any
Ouzina, so I can't tell.
My NWA 3098 slice from Stefan Ralew also shows several chondrules
even though it is an R5.
Best wishes,
Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[McomeMeteorite Meteorite]

But what you want to know... it is not your Moroccan friend have got for you 
the NWA 482 that I speak


From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:45:14 -0700

Wow, Matteo and his spies.
You are a real James Bond.
Matteo, I think that after so many years of doing this, I have learned how 
to deal with Moroccans, and I saw everything they had, and I saw the 
Amgala, not this cheap.
If you weren't there, don't spew lies about the show please.
No one believes you anymore.
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE


I have my informers and most likely you do not look under the tables of 
the dealers. This moroccan person is the same give to me the meteorites 
and for sure have this amgala in Bologna 2005 and I want see this 
piecefor the moment I have seen only via photo this piece.


From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:38:11 -0700

Matteo, were you in Munich? I am not sure how you say that a Moroccan 
offered Amgala for that price? I saw that amgala, and it was much more 
expensive than that.

- Original Message - From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
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E...this is the market here say some people...when I say the 
prices its under go in total ruin many say nebay is not the 
market etc.. etc... For me this is a right price for a ordinary 
chondrite recent fall in Morocco..Just in Munich days ago a moroccan 
person offer a 1.5 kg. of Amgala for $1500now have to reduce the 
price again probably

Matteo

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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:06:17 +0100
Lol great.
What next ?
Amgala for 0.95$/g ?
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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
> Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
> at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
> has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
> Sincerely
> DEAN BESSEY
> (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
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RE: AW: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

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you not have look well, sorry
From: "Bernhard Rems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Michael Farmer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:48:47 +0100
I have been there, and there was no Amgala for $1/g (btw - they all
calculated in Euros, and for good reasons). And I have looked under the
tables, Matteo.
Bernhard
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Wow, Matteo and his spies.
You are a real James Bond.
Matteo, I think that after so many years of doing this, I have learned
how
to deal with Moroccans, and I saw everything they had, and I saw the
Amgala,
not this cheap.
If you weren't there, don't spew lies about the show please.
No one believes you anymore.
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
>I have my informers and most likely you do not look under the tables of
the
>dealers. This moroccan person is the same give to me the meteorites and
for
>sure have this amgala in Bologna 2005 and I want see this piecefor
the
>moment I have seen only via photo this piece.
>
>
>>From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tecentral.com>
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
>>Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:38:11 -0700
>>
>>Matteo, were you in Munich? I am not sure how you say that a Moroccan
>>offered Amgala for that price? I saw that amgala, and it was much more
>>expensive than that.
>>
>>- Original Message - From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:25 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
>>
>>
>>>E...this is the market here say some people...when I say the
>>>prices its under go in total ruin many say nebay is not the
>>>market etc.. etc... For me this is a right price for a ordinary
chondrite
>>>recent fall in Morocco..Just in Munich days ago a moroccan person
>>>offer a 1.5 kg. of Amgala for $1500now have to reduce the price
again
>>>probably
>>>
>>>Matteo
>>>
>>>
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:06:17 +0100

Lol great.
What next ?
Amgala for 0.95$/g ?


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Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE


 > Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
 > at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
 > has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
 > http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
 > Sincerely
 > DEAN BESSEY
 > (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
 > AZTECFEAST)
 > http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

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> E...this is the market here say some people...when I say the
prices
> its under go in total ruin many say nebay is not the market etc..
> etc... For me this is a right price for a ordinary chondrite recent fall
in
> Morocco..Just in Munich days ago a moroccan person offer a 1.5 kg. of
> Amgala for $1500now have to reduce the price again probably

1.5kg piece and 15g piece is a little difference.
I hoped that Amgala price just stabilized from10-12$/g to 5$/g similar (or
under) to other fresh sahara falls. They are all cost from 5-10$

So If Moroccans can/want offer it now for 1$, then tomorrow someone will
send here BIG RETAIL PROMOTIONS SALE, Amgala at 1.95$ and next week someone
other 1.45$/g :)

So where we will be on december ?

Thats few of my "not fresh" ideas at 0:20AM

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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

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> Matteo, were you in Munich? I am not sure how you say that a Moroccan
> offered Amgala for that price? I saw that amgala, and it was much more
> expensive than that.

I saw in one place (not Hmani :) for 2euro, but maybe if Dean buy any Amgala
together with 2 tons of other chondrites this one should cost him 10cents/g
:)))

==
ADVERTISE
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Only here, only now, fresh Amgala for 4.95$/g ;-D

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AW: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[Bernhard Rems]

I have been there, and there was no Amgala for $1/g (btw - they all
calculated in Euros, and for good reasons). And I have looked under the
tables, Matteo.

Bernhard

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

Wow, Matteo and his spies.
You are a real James Bond.
Matteo, I think that after so many years of doing this, I have learned
how 
to deal with Moroccans, and I saw everything they had, and I saw the
Amgala, 
not this cheap.
If you weren't there, don't spew lies about the show please.
No one believes you anymore.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE


>I have my informers and most likely you do not look under the tables of
the 
>dealers. This moroccan person is the same give to me the meteorites and
for 
>sure have this amgala in Bologna 2005 and I want see this piecefor
the 
>moment I have seen only via photo this piece.
>
>
>>From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tecentral.com>
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
>>Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:38:11 -0700
>>
>>Matteo, were you in Munich? I am not sure how you say that a Moroccan 
>>offered Amgala for that price? I saw that amgala, and it was much more

>>expensive than that.
>>
>>- Original Message - From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:25 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
>>
>>
>>>E...this is the market here say some people...when I say the 
>>>prices its under go in total ruin many say nebay is not the 
>>>market etc.. etc... For me this is a right price for a ordinary
chondrite 
>>>recent fall in Morocco..Just in Munich days ago a moroccan person

>>>offer a 1.5 kg. of Amgala for $1500now have to reduce the price
again 
>>>probably
>>>
>>>Matteo
>>>
>>>
From: "Meteoryt.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:06:17 +0100

Lol great.
What next ?
Amgala for 0.95$/g ?


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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE


 > Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
 > at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
 > has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
 > http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
 > Sincerely
 > DEAN BESSEY
 > (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
 > AZTECFEAST)
 > http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
 >
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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[Michael Farmer]

Wow, Matteo and his spies.
You are a real James Bond.
Matteo, I think that after so many years of doing this, I have learned how 
to deal with Moroccans, and I saw everything they had, and I saw the Amgala, 
not this cheap.
If you weren't there, don't spew lies about the show please.
No one believes you anymore.
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE


I have my informers and most likely you do not look under the tables of the 
dealers. This moroccan person is the same give to me the meteorites and for 
sure have this amgala in Bologna 2005 and I want see this piecefor the 
moment I have seen only via photo this piece.


From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:38:11 -0700

Matteo, were you in Munich? I am not sure how you say that a Moroccan 
offered Amgala for that price? I saw that amgala, and it was much more 
expensive than that.

- Original Message - From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE


E...this is the market here say some people...when I say the 
prices its under go in total ruin many say nebay is not the 
market etc.. etc... For me this is a right price for a ordinary chondrite 
recent fall in Morocco..Just in Munich days ago a moroccan person 
offer a 1.5 kg. of Amgala for $1500now have to reduce the price again 
probably

Matteo

From: "Meteoryt.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:06:17 +0100
Lol great.
What next ?
Amgala for 0.95$/g ?
- Original Message -
From: "dean bessey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
> Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
> at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
> has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
> Sincerely
> DEAN BESSEY
> (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
> AZTECFEAST)
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[McomeMeteorite Meteorite]

I have my informers and most likely you do not look under the tables of the 
dealers. This moroccan person is the same give to me the meteorites and for 
sure have this amgala in Bologna 2005 and I want see this piecefor the 
moment I have seen only via photo this piece.


From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:38:11 -0700

Matteo, were you in Munich? I am not sure how you say that a Moroccan 
offered Amgala for that price? I saw that amgala, and it was much more 
expensive than that.

- Original Message - From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
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E...this is the market here say some people...when I say the 
prices its under go in total ruin many say nebay is not the market 
etc.. etc... For me this is a right price for a ordinary chondrite recent 
fall in Morocco..Just in Munich days ago a moroccan person offer a 1.5 
kg. of Amgala for $1500now have to reduce the price again probably

Matteo

From: "Meteoryt.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:06:17 +0100
Lol great.
What next ?
Amgala for 0.95$/g ?
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
> Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
> at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
> has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
> Sincerely
> DEAN BESSEY
> (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
> AZTECFEAST)
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[Michael Farmer]

Matteo, were you in Munich? I am not sure how you say that a Moroccan 
offered Amgala for that price? I saw that amgala, and it was much more 
expensive than that.

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E...this is the market here say some people...when I say the 
prices its under go in total ruin many say nebay is not the market 
etc.. etc... For me this is a right price for a ordinary chondrite recent 
fall in Morocco..Just in Munich days ago a moroccan person offer a 1.5 
kg. of Amgala for $1500now have to reduce the price again probably

Matteo

From: "Meteoryt.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 21:06:17 +0100
Lol great.
What next ?
Amgala for 0.95$/g ?
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
> Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
> at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
> has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
> Sincerely
> DEAN BESSEY
> (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
> AZTECFEAST)
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[McomeMeteorite Meteorite]

E...this is the market here say some people...when I say the prices 
its under go in total ruin many say nebay is not the market etc.. 
etc... For me this is a right price for a ordinary chondrite recent fall in 
Morocco..Just in Munich days ago a moroccan person offer a 1.5 kg. of 
Amgala for $1500now have to reduce the price again probably

Matteo

From: "Meteoryt.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Lol great.
What next ?
Amgala for 0.95$/g ?
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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
> Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
> at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
> has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
> Sincerely
> DEAN BESSEY
> (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
> AZTECFEAST)
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[Martin Altmann]

Wrong Marcin.
Next is LOWICZ - superare observed MES-Fall from Poland, hehe.
UNBELIEVABLE 50 bucks per gram at Meteorite-Martin!

Yeah.
Martin

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> Lol great.
> What next ?
> Amgala for 0.95$/g ?
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dean bessey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:26 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE
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> 
> > Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
> > at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
> > has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
> > http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
> > Sincerely
> > DEAN BESSEY
> > (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
> > AZTECFEAST)
> > http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[Meteoryt.net]

Lol great.
What next ?
Amgala for 0.95$/g ?


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Subject: [meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE


> Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
> at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
> has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
> Sincerely
> DEAN BESSEY
> (Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
> AZTECFEAST)
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
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[meteorite-list] $2.95 AMGALA SALE

[dean bessey]

Here is some Amgala cheaper than it has been offered
at by other dealers. Price only US$2.95 a gram. All
has at least some crust and several is over 90% crust.
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/amgalasale.html
Sincerely
DEAN BESSEY
(Also see my meteorites on ebay user id AMUNRE and
AZTECFEAST)
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[meteorite-list] NWA 1774 and NWA 3098 Rumurutiites

[bernd . pauli]

JD wrote:

> This meteorite (NWA 3098) looks a lot like some material I
> have. NWA 1774, R3.8 - 6  (not R5), 714 g TKW, Found 2002.

Hello John, Jeff K., Stefan, and List,

When Alex Seidel and I got this beautiful R5 from Stefan, we echanged
several mails re: classification of this R5 because we both felt we were
looking at an R3-5 (my mail to Stefan dated Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004).

My collection piece (4.9 grams) is a triangular slice with fusion crust, numerous
chondrules and several angular and subangular light-brown clasts. Some clasts
seem to be composed of unequilibrated material and are a deep black color with
chondrules and mineral fragments enclosed. Some chondrules have a thin black
seam and one chondrule is a tightly packed aggregate of worm-like pyroxene laths
in a white groundmass of anorthite (not quite sure if it *is* anorthite).


Best wishes,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rumurutite & Kakangarite

[j . divelbiss]

This meteorite (Nwa 3098) looks a lot like some material I have...NWA 1774.

NWA 1774
R3.8 - 6  (not R5)
714 g TKW
Found 2002

I have some NWA 1774 and a thin section for sale if anyone is interested.

JD



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> G'day Bernd & Francesco, 
> 
> Ah yes. What a beauty NWA 3098 is! It is also this month's favourite at my 
> site. There is a pic of the meteorite at the below link. Very interesting 
> meteorite! 
> 
> http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/favourite.html 
> 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Jeff Kuyken 
> I.M.C.A. #3085 
> www.meteorites.com.au 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rumurutite & Kakangarite 
> 
> 
> Francesco wrote: 
> 
> > Why on the classification page the R and K meteorite are 
> > Chondrite and just 6 pages after them become Achondrite? 
> > Maybe I misunderstood something? 
> 
> Francesco, Rumurutiites and Kakangariites are clearly chondritic. 
> Let's take the LEW 87232 Kakangari-type Antarctic meteorite. The 
> thin section does show chondrules and chondrule fragments. 
> 
> As for the R-chondrites, although the lower types have relatively 
> few chondrules, they do have them. Ouzina (R4) is even said to have 
> abundant barred olivine and porphyritic chondrules. I don't have any 
> Ouzina, so I can't tell. 
> 
> My NWA 3098 slice from Stefan Ralew also shows several chondrules 
> even though it is an R5. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> 
> Bernd 
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[meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes - Corrected "Bob's Finding" Link

[Paul Harris]

Dear List,
If you've already looked at MeteoriteTimes you might have noticed
that I had the wrong link to this months "Bob's Findings".  I've corrected
the link to the current November article.
Sorry about that,
Paul
Greetings All,
MeteoriteTimes for November is up.
http://www.meteoritetimes.com/
Thanks again to all the writers!!
Paul and Jim
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[meteorite-list] An offer: shop+domain+hosting

[Bernhard Rems]

Hi list!


I have worked hard the last few weeks (and had a hard time being silent
about that *g*) building something I think will be most interesting for
most of you: I am proud to be able to offer you a complete, automated
and easy to use shop for your meteorite sales, including setup, your own
domain and hosting.

After a lot of research on the internet I have found a shopping cart
that is ideal for meteorite stores. After I have set it up, you don't
need any programming skills or HTML knowledge to upload and present your
meteorites. It handles different categories and subcategories, allows
you to accept paypal, credit cards (if you have a merchant account) and
many other payment options. You just enter a description, upload a pic
(pics are resized for a thumbnail view on the fly), add the price and
the item is ready for sale. The cart even handles your mail exchange
with your customers, alerts you about sales, does backups of your
database and allows you to specify s&h for foreign or domestic shipping.
You can highlight products, enter rebates and much more. You can easily
change the look of the shop to fit into your homepage's color scheme.
And: it's multilingual for the admin and the user!

I have registered a domain and bought a server where I can build this
shop for you (and this server will be exclusively for the shops, so the
loading times will be VERY fast). The domain is www.metsale.com (not
active yet), and your domain would be something like
meteoritesaustralia.metsale.com (grin) (just replace the first part with
the name of your web appearance).

The setup fee is $50 ($25 for IMCA members), monthly hosting cost is
$25, including 500MB webspace (should be more than enough even for the
largest shops) and 10GB transfer (same here, that's a LOT). Compare this
with other offers NOT including a fully functional shop. You get a shop
that is ready to use, you can start filling it with content right away.
The server has excellent connections to the internet and works extremely
reliable.

Even if you run your own website, this shop is perfect as an addition.
Just link to it from your website, and back to the website from your
shop. No more fiddling with HTML, layout, no more hassles with
processing payments.

For those interested, I have set up a demo shop where they can play
around with the admin section and have a look at the shop itself, just
to get the feeling how easy this thing is and how little work there is
involved once I have set it up for you. Please mail me and I will give
you access to the demo shop admin section.

I hope you find this offer interesting - I think this is something a lot
of people have waited for (including me). Please contact me off-list
with any questions.

Regards,
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[meteorite-list] An offer: shop+domain+hosting

[Bernhard Rems]

Hi list!


I have worked hard the last few weeks (and had a hard time being silent
about that *g*) building something I think will be most interesting for
most of you: I am proud to be able to offer you a complete, automated
and easy to use shop for your meteorite sales, including setup, your own
domain and hosting.

After a lot of research on the internet I have found a shopping cart
that is ideal for meteorite stores. After I have set it up, you don't
need any programming skills or HTML knowledge to upload and present your
meteorites. It handles different categories and subcategories, allows
you to accept paypal, credit cards (if you have a merchant account) and
many other payment options. You just enter a description, upload a pic
(pics are resized for a thumbnail view on the fly), add the price and
the item is ready for sale. The cart even handles your mail exchange
with your customers, alerts you about sales, does backups of your
database and allows you to specify s&h for foreign or domestic shipping.
You can highlight products, enter rebates and much more. You can easily
change the look of the shop to fit into your homepage's color scheme.
And: it's multilingual for the admin and the user!

I have registered a domain and bought a server where I can build this
shop for you (and this server will be exclusively for the shops, so the
loading times will be VERY fast). The domain is www.metsale.com (not
active yet), and your domain would be something like
meteoritesaustralia.metsale.com (grin) (just replace the first part with
the name of your web appearance).

The setup fee is $50 ($25 for IMCA members), monthly hosting cost is
$25, including 500MB webspace (should be more than enough even for the
largest shops) and 10GB transfer (same here, that's a LOT). Compare this
with other offers NOT including a fully functional shop. You get a shop
that is ready to use, you can start filling it with content right away.
The server has excellent connections to the internet and works extremely
reliable.

Even if you run your own website, this shop is perfect as an addition.
Just link to it from your website, and back to the website from your
shop. No more fiddling with HTML, layout, no more hassles with
processing payments.

For those interested, I have set up a demo shop where they can play
around with the admin section and have a look at the shop itself, just
to get the feeling how easy this thing is and how little work there is
involved once I have set it up for you. Please mail me and I will give
you access to the demo shop admin section.

I hope you find this offer interesting - I think this is something a lot
of people have waited for (including me). Please contact me off-list
with any questions.

Regards,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tailess Meteors?

[Chris Peterson]

Hi Tom-

I'm surprised you found this unusual. I'd say that at least 25% of bright
meteors leave no trail. Depending on the composition of the meteoroid, its
velocity, altitude, and angle of entry it is very possible that very little
material was being ablated, and that the conditions were unfavorable for
producing significant atmospheric ionization.

My allsky cameras are sensitive enough to record trails, and I have images
with a range of trails, from invisible to several seconds persistence, all
with meteors of equal intensity.

A meteor that produces a bright trail and has a terminal explosion is a good
candidate for producing meteorites. If the explosion occurs nearly overhead,
start looking!

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Tailess Meteors?


> Hello List,
> I saw a meteor that left no trail.  It was a kind of yellowish orange
color.
> I have not seen a meteor with no tail, is this common?  And what would
cause
> this?
>
> Thanks, Tom

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[meteorite-list] franconia 2003

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!]

I got a 9 gram slice of franconia from bob verish last spring in a
trade.He said, that it was a new find from arizona that was being studied
and that this was the provisional name at the time.Well I am glad it
stuck.Because now, thanks to rubin, I also have a 259 gram individual of
it.

 steve arnold, chicago

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Franconia and HaH183

[Ruben Garcia]

Hi all,
Yes , Bob you are correct! I should have said "MIke
and I worked quietly cleaning out the small end of the
Franconia strewn field till our secret leaked out at
the  Feb. 2004  Tucson Gem and mineral show.
Thanks, 
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[meteorite-list] REALLY CHEAP EUCRITE SALE

[dean bessey]

Here is a website of NWA eucrites that I just made.
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/eucritesale.html
For today I am offering a 20% discount from the prices
that I have indicated. My prices are still in US
dollars (Even though the moroccans have started to
want to get paid in Euros). I only have 14 rocks
listed here so pick out the one that you want as soon
as possible.
REMEMBER - 20% DISCOUNT FROM MY PRICES SHOWN ON THE
WEBPAGE. Paypal great for payment.
Cheers
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[meteorite-list] (AD) ENDING OF METEORITE SALE

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!]

Hi list.Just a reminder, my fall half price meteorite sale will end
tomorrow night at 6 pm chicago time.Still some nice items to grab.Let me
know what you want.

steve

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Get Together

[Jason Phillips]

Hello List,
I few weeks ago Steve Arnold, Chicago invited the Meteorite List to my house 
for a small get together on Saturday November 13th.  I wanted to invite 
everyone myself and confirm that everyone who would like to come spend some 
time talking meteorites and related topics are more than welcome.  I live in 
central Illinois which is about 2 hours from Chicago, Indianapolis, and St. 
Louis.  If you are interested please contact me for further information.

Take Care,
Jason Phillips
Rocks From Heaven
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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - November 6, 2004

[SPACEROCKSINC]

ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE  DAY:
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Nov_6.html  

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[meteorite-list] I touched a meteor

[tett]

Well, it's a bit of a stretch but...
Got a call from a chap at the Johnson Space Center this week who was trying 
to find out more information on a product my company manufactures.  This 
product is a small fan which NASA uses in the space station to help ciculate 
air over desicant pacs and in turn reduce humidity.  These are battery 
operated blower units with permanent magnet motors.

Some of my little fans must now be replaced and the spent ones are being 
moved by the Russians to the "trash bin" which will be returned to the earth 
and destroyed as it enters the atmospher.  The Russians have asked NASA to 
advise if any of the spent cargo has permanent magnets and if so how 
powerful of a field do they produce.  I guess they need to be careful to 
ensure that none of this cargo can interfere with the space station systems.

So... I was thinking of my poor little fans, which are still good, ands how 
they will burn up in the atmospher.  Then I realized that they will become 
little meteors.  Perhaps, if some are well protected by other debris, they 
could even become meteorites.  Hum.

Cheers,
tett
Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada 

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Re: [meteorite-list] MM = M atteo + M ike

[meteoriteshow]

And it can last long! Like finding out what came first between the fowl
and the egg...

Frederic Beroud
www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA #2491

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> The moral of the story, he touched me firstno, he touched me first
>
> DF
>
>
> Bruce Yankewitz wrote:
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> > house to break me the face.
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> > There's at least one Tucson t-shirt in there.
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> >   Bruce
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Re: [meteorite-list] MM = M atteo + M ike

[meteoriteshow]

YES BERND! THANKS FOR SAYING THIS! I GUESS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS
LIST THINK THE SAME. I DO!

Frederic Beroud
www.meteoriteshow.com
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> Matteo,
>
> Why can't you two guys just leave each other alone?
> Forget about each other and mind your own business!
>
> While I've never had any sympathy for Mike's aggressive verbal
> attacks against whoever on this list (see Captain Blood's recent,
> courageous rebuke re: the wording of messages), I also find it
> utterly despicable to pour oil in the fire while making faces
> from behind the bush.
>
> Your mail was definitely uncalled-for, superfluous and unwanted.
> Cut it out, it is bothersome, behave like gentlemen, and try to
> get along in peace. Life is short, too short to waste precious time
> with unnecessary animosities.
>
> Use your imaginative power and look at this Planet Earth from a
> mountain on the Moon, we're all down there on this little spaceship
> called Earth, we're all in the same boat and from up there Tucson
> is less than a stone's throw from Italy and vice versa.
>
> Amen ... end of sermon ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA's, Nomads, Collectors

[meteoriteshow]

Hi Nels and Thomas,

Don't worry, you are not the only ones to feel the same and even some
hunters who sell some of their finds do feel the same, like me! The best
times I have with meteorites are first when hunting for them in the Sahara
Desert, and second the great people I meet on shows around this passion,
sharing it with them. I did not know at all this community 3 years ago, and
I can tell you that I do not regret anything now!
Best meteoritical wishes,

Frederic Beroud
www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA #2491

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>
> Hello Nels,
>
> I can totally agree with your wisdom words.
> I experienced the same on my hunting adventures in different places in the
> world and I am so glad, that it is possible to travel without big
> circumstances through the world.
> Remember, that some times ago it was not possibly :
>
> No GPS, no airplanes, many borders were closed for strangers, cold war
ect.
>
> I wished all you collectors and hunters could think and feel the same.
>
> With best wishes,
>
> Thomas Kurtz from California/Sunnyvale.
>
>
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> Dear List, The real fact is all of us, in our own way, love these gifts
from
> outer space! They really are gifts that are priceless. We try in our
humble
> way to possess these gifts when we purchase them. There is the problem!
> We're mixing economy with emotion. Everyone needs a dollar to live,
> philosophically, we need only our thoughts.I think my experiences, the
> friends I've made on this journey, are priceless. I love the meteorites,
but
> they are secondary. The unfortunate thing is, it's difficult for many to
be
> philosophical when they don't have food to eat, let alone health care!
> Whoever can't see the good side of something is truly a poor person.
Thanks
> Nels
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[meteorite-list] Re: Franconia and HaH183

[bernd . pauli]

> When you say "Franconia is a bit more tricky", I'm not
> sure what you mean. Are you not sure that Franconia is
> an H5? I would find this surprising, given all that has
> been published in "Meteorite", not to mention MB#88.


Hi Bob, Ruben, and List,

Oops, sorry if my words should have given rise to any doubts
regarding the sincerity and/or integrity of the finders involved!

No, there is no doubt about my Franconia specimen being
(a) a genuine Franconia meteorite and (b) an H5 chondrite.

Bob, please let me now quote from your own mail to the
List as I was referring to *that* part of the story:

"At the time I wrote that article, it was thought that the
finds being made by Mike Miller and Ruben were not paired to
Franconia. Mike thought that his finds were from a different fall."


Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Re: Franconia and HaH183

[Robert Verish]

Ruben Garcia wrote:
"Mike and I  worked quietly for several months
cleaning out the small side of the strewn field
till January 2003 when our secret leaked out at the
Tucson Gem And Mineral show."

Hello Ruben,

It appears that you made a typographical error in the
above sentence.  When you wrote "January 2003", didn't
you mean to write "January 2004"?

If Mike Miller made his first find in October 2003,
and then Mike and you searched there for several more
months, it would only follow that it was at the
February 2004  -  Tucson Gem & Mineral Show that the
news of a STREWN FIELD was leaked out.

But, as luck would have it, you are somewhat correct
about "January 2003", even if only by accident.  That
happens to be the date of my first Franconia web page:

http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/francnia/francnia.htm

And astute readers who attended the Tucson Show in
*2003*, or viewed the video by Gwilliam/Holmes of that
Show, will remember my appearance on that video where
I "announced" the recent finding by John Wolfe of the
Franconia STONE.  

Months would go by before a "strewn field" was
discovered to exist.

But of course, all of this was detailed in my
Franconia article in the May 2004 issue of "Meteorite"
magazine.  At the time I wrote that article, it was
thought that the finds being made by Mike Miller and
Ruben were not paired to Franconia. Mike thought that
his finds were from a different fall.

But we now know that the Franconia STREWN FIELD was
independently found by Mike Miller AND by John Wolfe.
Of course, all of this was detailed in the following
issue of "Meteorite" magazine in the article by Geoff
Notkin.

Hope this clarification makes some sense.
If not, I may post a more detailed explanation, later.

Bob V.
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:55:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Ruben Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia and HaH183

Hi, 
The first Franconia meteorite was found on Oct. 31
2002 by John Wolfe (see Meteorite Mag. Vol. 10 No. 2)
No others were found till Mike Miller found 3 small
pieces one year later in Oct 2003. (See Meteorite Mag.
Volume 10 No. 3)Mike and I  worked quietly for several
months cleaning out the small side of the strewn field
till January 2003 when our secret leaked out at the
Tucson Gem And Mineral show. We continued working the
strewn field for months and eventually found several
other meteorites which are still being classified.
Franconia is classified as an H-5 chondrite.
Hope this helps.
Ruben Garcia 

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[meteorite-list] Franconia and HaH183

[Robert Verish]

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Date: 05 Nov 2004 18:37:02 UT
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Franconia and HaH183

Buona sera Francesco,
Hello List,

++
Franconia is a bit more tricky. The piece I have is
supposedly an H5 - according to the seller (R. Garcia)

Best wishes
from Germany,

Bernd

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Hello Bernd,

When you say "Franconia is a bit more tricky", I'm not
sure what you mean.  Are you not sure that Franconia
is an H5?  I would find this surprising, given all
that has been published in "Meteorite", not to mention
MB#88.

Or, are you not sure that your particular specimen is
a piece of the Franconia (H5) meteorite?  If indeed,
you did obtain it from Ruben Garcia, then you can rest
assured, because all of Ruben's finds are being
examined by ASU.  So, even if your particular specimen
wasn't classified, you have it from ASU via Ruben,
that at the least, your specimen is "most likely
paired to Franconia (H5)".

Should a new/different classification come out of the
Franconia locality, I'm sure we will hear about it
very soon afterwards.

Bob V.  

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