Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread Mark Langenfeld
Walt:

Are you seeing any elongation or tail using your Dob?

Mark

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Missed the meteor shower cause I fell asleep before my daughter as I 
was
> putting her to bed but I just came in from observing comet C/2004 Q2
> Machholz.   It is visible in binoculars and looks really nice in my 
10 inch
> Dob. It is very easy to find as it is near Orion.  Continue a line 
from the
> Orion nebula through Rigel and there it is.  Here is a great star 
map:
> 
> http://www.skyhound.com/sh/2004_Q2.gif
> 
> -Walter


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[meteorite-list] Australian Meteorite Sale - Part 2

2004-12-14 Thread Jeff Kuyken
G'day folks,

Time for Part 2 of the Aussie Meteorite consignment. It's taken a few days
but I've finally got a page together with specimens. The meteorites are:


*Dirranbandi (Hamilton, QLD) - ~30% has already sold!

*Dalgety Downs (including 720g Individual with crust & 400g individual!) - I
don't have permission to export more than 1000g, so once one of these sell
the other comes off the market! Be quick!

*Broken Hill (3 large slices, including 343g monster!)

*Huckitta (including 424g Endcut & a couple of small pieces with unweathered
olivine!)

*Molong (various pieces from crystals to a 12g fragment - RELATIVELY FRESH
PIECES & LESS $$$ THAN NWA PALLASITES!)

*Henbury (3 large individuals)


The page is listed here:

http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/aus.html

Any questions; please just email. "FIRST IN; FIRST SERVED!"

Thanks,

Jeff Kuyken
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Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
Bill,

"I'm surprised you didn't do a falcon."

That's on my to do list for myself! The cross was for my daughter but we
both wanted to see how it would do on ebay. We also figured something more
popular (flag or shark or??) would do better than a Christian symbol.  The

Thanks, Tom
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> Tom,
>
> I'm surprised you didn't do a falcon.
>
> Bill
>
>
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Think that was bad, check this one out!
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2294509924&ssPageNam
> > e=STRK:MESE:IT
> >
> > Thanks, Tom
> > peregrineflier <><
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> > From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!
> >
> >
> > > Next thing we know, you'll be painting lawn ornaments on meteorite
> > > slices.How about painting a Proud Tom likeness on one?
> > > DF
> > >
> > > Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hello List, here is another etching experiment gone horribly wrong!
But
> > > >hey, you never know what people might like and actually buy! : )
> > > >
> > >
> >
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719
> > &
> > > >rd=1
> > > >
> > > >Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] Last 5 Slices of NEW IIICD IRON NWA 2677 posted!!! Ad

2004-12-14 Thread John Birdsell
Hi everyone! Well we finally managed to get the last five slices of the 
new IIICD NWA 2677 posted on the website. It took a bit longer than we 
had hoped, but they're up. They have a beautiful etch and a nickel 
content of 12.8%.  These are the last five slices that will be available 
for sale to the public, so take a look at the photos and if you're 
planning on picking up a full slice of this lovely new iron now is the 
time to do so.

Take care!
-John & Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites
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Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread joseph_town
Tom,

I'm surprised you didn't do a falcon.

Bill


 -- Original message --
From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Think that was bad, check this one out!
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2294509924&ssPageNam
> e=STRK:MESE:IT
> 
> Thanks, Tom
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> 
> > Next thing we know, you'll be painting lawn ornaments on meteorite
> > slices.How about painting a Proud Tom likeness on one?
> > DF
> >
> > Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
> >
> > >Hello List, here is another etching experiment gone horribly wrong!  But
> > >hey, you never know what people might like and actually buy! : )
> > >
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719
> &
> > >rd=1
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> > >Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone,

Missed the meteor shower cause I fell asleep before my daughter as I was
putting her to bed but I just came in from observing comet C/2004 Q2
Machholz.   It is visible in binoculars and looks really nice in my 10 inch
Dob. It is very easy to find as it is near Orion.  Continue a line from the
Orion nebula through Rigel and there it is.  Here is a great star map:

http://www.skyhound.com/sh/2004_Q2.gif

-Walter
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> In a message dated 12/13/2004 10:58:35 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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> Snowing hard here in Western NC also.  No chance.
> Thomas
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> > Snowing hard here in southcentral Alaska.
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> > Jeannie
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> Cloudy but no snow in Denver.
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Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread David Freeman
Dear Tom;
How about a likeness of H.H. Nininger?  Stylish!
DF
Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
I was thinking of a mountain scene! : )
Thanks, Tom
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Next thing we know, you'll be painting lawn ornaments on meteorite
slices.How about painting a Proud Tom likeness on one?
DF
Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
Hello List, here is another etching experiment gone horribly wrong!  But
hey, you never know what people might like and actually buy! : )
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719
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rd=1
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[meteorite-list] Australian Fireball Creates A Lot of Interest

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Baalke


http://laurieton.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=357895&y=2004&m=12

Fireball creates a lot of interest
Camden Haven Courier (Australia)
15 December 2004

At approximately 4.15am, Monday morning, December 6, a large bright
object was seen streaking across the coastal fringes of the mid-north
coast of NSW.  

A large number of callers inundated the John Kerr 2UE radio program with
eyewitness reports of a fast moving 'meteor' trailing a greenish-blue
hue passing across the night sky before exploding in a series of bright
flashes. An eerie, constant, low rumbling sound accompanied the explosions. 

Reports came from as far north as Coffs Harbour to Wollongong in the south. 

News editor of SKY & SPACE Magazine, and editor of 'Astronomy Media
Services', Dave Reneke of Wauchope fielded over a dozen enquiries that
morning from radio stations across the state who picked up on the story
and gave an educated analysis of the event. He spoke at length with John
Kerr in an interview that morning to encapsule the information and
provide an insight into the reports. 

He said it appears a large 'bolide' or meteor entered the atmosphere in
the early morning hours and, moving at roughly 30km/sec, became
extremely hot due to friction, turning into possibly a 'fireball' before
finally exploding and splitting into at least 3 or separate 4 pieces.
"The rumbling sounds associated with the event may have been due to the
compression of air from the object's high speed" David said. 

The descriptions by some observers of a seeing a "greenish hue" or
'tail" suggest a mineral content, possibly copper or some similar
element, which tends to categorise it as something of natural
composition, as opposed to man-made space junk.  

David said reports as graphic as this are very rare and, due to the
apparent large size of this object, put this incident above the 'normal'
meteorite sighting category. David estimated the size of the object to
be around the size of a suitcase - or even a small bar fridge. 

David Finlay, from the Wollongong Amateur Astronomy Club contacted David
to add that an Australian monitoring station, Geoscience, recorded the
acoustic signal from its two bases at Tenant Creek and Hobart and
estimated the yield of the bolide between 200 Tonnes to 1
Kilotonne. They produced a map showing the hypothesised source location
which they said was fairly close to Kempsey, in the Macleay area of NSW.  

Given that the object was travelling from west to east, it is likely
that any fragments fell into the Pacific, however the source location is
only an estimation and the strewn field could be large for such a
massive object. It is still possible however that some fragments
impacted on land .

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[meteorite-list] Weathered Oriented NWA Photos Needed

2004-12-14 Thread Jeff Kuyken
G'day folks,

If anyone has photos of weathered NWA oriented stone meteorites under 100g I
would very much appreciate seeing them! Weird request I know, but it's for a
little side 'pet project'!

Thanks,

Jeff Kuyken
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Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread Mike Groetz
Tom-
   I think your cross one was original and looked
nice. Would make a good "keeper one" for a person to
have with them.
   But now- and I hope I'm not out of line- I think
you are wrecking some nice Canyon Diablo pieces. 
   Just my opinion (I know your designs can be taken
off and the piece re-etched). But why?
   You might be out wearing its welcome.
Mike

--- Tom AKA James Knudson
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> Think that was bad, check this one out!
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2294509924&ssPageNam
> e=STRK:MESE:IT
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> Thanks, Tom
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> > Next thing we know, you'll be painting lawn
> ornaments on meteorite
> > slices.How about painting a Proud Tom likeness
> on one?
> > DF
> >
> > Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
> >
> > >Hello List, here is another etching experiment
> gone horribly wrong!  But
> > >hey, you never know what people might like and
> actually buy! : )
> > >
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719
> &
> > >rd=1
> > >
> > >Thanks, Tom
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Fw: Fw: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread Jose Campos
Hi Juris,
Thanks for your prompt reply and the extra info.
And I hope that you will be able to have an encore of the show soon, there 
in Elizabeth, Colorado.
Clear skies.
Best wishes,
José Campos
Portugal
PS: Come on, Dave Freeman, of Wyoming USA, of course he watched it in the 
sky...
All the best and clear skies to you too.

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Hi Juris,
That's looks like it was quite a nice show you had. Good for you, now 
please
let us have some idea of WHERE about did you watch it?
Upper Mongolia, Uzbekistan, or perhaps... Alaska? Or somewhere in the USA?
Kind regards,
José Campos

Jose - opps... Elizabeth Colorado.  That is a bit south and east of 
Denver - very dark skies.  :)

Juris 
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Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
Think that was bad, check this one out!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2294509924&ssPageNam
e=STRK:MESE:IT

Thanks, Tom
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> Next thing we know, you'll be painting lawn ornaments on meteorite
> slices.How about painting a Proud Tom likeness on one?
> DF
>
> Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
>
> >Hello List, here is another etching experiment gone horribly wrong!  But
> >hey, you never know what people might like and actually buy! : )
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719
&
> >rd=1
> >
> >Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] AD-Link To Today's Ending Auctions

2004-12-14 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear list,
Please pardon my repeat email, I forgot to include an easy link to see all 
of our ending auctions. We have approximately 90 eBay auctions under our 
"meteoritelab" seller name ending today in just a couple hours, many still 
at just 99 cents. There are bargains to be had with these! There are many 
rare achondrites and planetary meteorites along with the wide selection of 
ordinary chondrites and irons listed.

To see these auctions and other officially classified items of interest 
please click on the link below and go to "Go see all current items for sale 
by this member."
http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=meteoritelab

Best regards and Happy Holidays to all,
Greg and Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
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Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread JPBrockets
Hi Juris,
That's looks like it was quite a nice show you had. Good for you, now please
let us have some idea of WHERE about did you watch it?
Upper Mongolia, Uzbekistan, or perhaps... Alaska? Or somewhere in the USA?
Kind regards,
José Campos


Jose - opps... Elizabeth Colorado.  That is a bit south and east of Denver - 
very dark skies.  :)

Juris
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Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread fcressy
Tom,

Under your "cute" etching experiment, it looks like you might have a "rim"
specimen of Canyon Diablo. See Ron Hartman's discussion of rim specimens at
the following link:
http://www.meteorite1.com/master/mastermenu.htm

Click on the link to "Canyon Diablo (rim)"

Sorry about your experiment?

Sincerely,
Frank

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> Hello List, here is another etching experiment gone horribly wrong!  But
> hey, you never know what people might like and actually buy! : )
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719&;
> rd=1
>
> Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
I was thinking of a mountain scene! : )

Thanks, Tom
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> Next thing we know, you'll be painting lawn ornaments on meteorite
> slices.How about painting a Proud Tom likeness on one?
> DF
>
> Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
>
> >Hello List, here is another etching experiment gone horribly wrong!  But
> >hey, you never know what people might like and actually buy! : )
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719
&
> >rd=1
> >
> >Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread David Freeman
Next thing we know, you'll be painting lawn ornaments on meteorite 
slices.How about painting a Proud Tom likeness on one?
DF

Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
Hello List, here is another etching experiment gone horribly wrong!  But
hey, you never know what people might like and actually buy! : )
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719&;
rd=1
Thanks, Tom
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IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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Fw: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread Jose Campos
Hi Juris,
That's looks like it was quite a nice show you had. Good for you, now please 
let us have some idea of WHERE about did you watch it?
Upper Mongolia, Uzbekistan, or perhaps... Alaska? Or somewhere in the USA?
Kind regards,
José Campos
Portugal


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I woke up at about 3:00 and headed into the kitchen.  I have a bay window 
in that room that faces east (with a heater vent right below it!).  So I 
sat on the floor for about a 1/2 hour to watch the show.  Even though I 
could not see the whole sky I had quite a show.  Nice as it was I will 
never forget that show we had a few years back..

Juris Breikss
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Regrets

2004-12-14 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone,

Anyone ever sell or trade a meteorite and later regret havig done so?  I
have.  I remember this one beautiful Sikhote-Alin shrapnel specimen that I
sold about 5 years ago.  I got it from John Sinclair.  I can't remember the
exact weight but it was around 3 to 4 lbs.  It was the most fantasitc
looking large shrapnel I had ever seen.  I will probably never see another
like it (though not for lack or trying).  I have spent years trying to
replace it.

sniff...sniff... :-(

If anyone on this list has it.  Please let me know.  I would like to think
it has a good home now.

sniff...sniff...

(and give me a chance to buy it back!)


-Walter (pining for a piece of iron and nickel)


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[meteorite-list] another experiment gone wrong!!!

2004-12-14 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
Hello List, here is another etching experiment gone horribly wrong!  But
hey, you never know what people might like and actually buy! : )

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2294502719&;
rd=1

Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread JPBrockets
I woke up at about 3:00 and headed into the kitchen.  I have a bay window in 
that room that faces east (with a heater vent right below it!).  So I sat on 
the floor for about a 1/2 hour to watch the show.  Even though I could not see 
the whole sky I had quite a show.  Nice as it was I will never forget that show 
we had a few years back..

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Regrets

2004-12-14 Thread JPBrockets
Anyone ever sell or trade a meteorite and later regret havig done so?  I
have.

Hello Walter and list members - 

Yep.  A kilo+ Canyon Diablo.  Haven't come across a similar one yet...

I had also put up a 65 gram Henbury on ebay once.  It did not sell.  I still 
have it today and it is one of my more favorit pieces!

Juris
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[meteorite-list] bonita, cumberland

2004-12-14 Thread harlan trammell
anita- you gotta fone? still have skyrox & saw to cut 'em with.
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[meteorite-list] NWA 2504 - a beauty

2004-12-14 Thread bernd . pauli
> maybe you remember that Stefan Ralew from Berlin offered a couple of 
> unusual chondrites from Northwest Africa here lately. I purchased some
> of the slices, and I received them today. I want to point you to a
> picture of NWA 2504, a partially impact melted H/L3-4:

> http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/nwa25041540

I concur because I also got one of these unbelievably beautiful slices.
I have the 19.48-gram slice and it displays a very busy, breccia matrix.

And just have a look at his NWA 2511 (L3) - I secured a 5.28-gram slice
with abundant, tightly packed, colorful chondrules. This one looks almost
like Ragland (LL3.4 or LL3.5) !

> Every other piece I have received from Stefan is just beautiful as well

One of the best - maybe the very best - seller/collector out there!

Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] AD-Many Great Auctions Ending Soon. Excellent Prices.

2004-12-14 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear list,
I would like to let you know that we have several eBay auctions ending in a 
couple hours, many still at just 99 cents. There are many great bargains to 
be had.

Best regards and Happy Holidays,
Greg and Adam Hupe
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[meteorite-list] Rusting Mars

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=2645

Astronomy Magazine
December 2004 astro bytes
December 9, 2004

[snip]

Rusting Mars

Exactly what processes made martian soil the way we find it today - rich
in colorful, and sometimes strongly magnetic, iron oxides and hydroxides
- eludes planetary scientists. To shed light on martian soil chemistry,
a team led by Vincent Chevrier of the University of Aix-en-Provence in
France watched powders of natural and synthetic iron weather for a year
under a simulated martian atmosphere.

Previous studies have looked at the effects of surface weathering on
Mars in the presence of water, but they neglected the fact that, unlike
Earth, Mars has an atmosphere primarily made of carbon dioxide.
Moreover, not all martian rock originated on Mars. According to some
studies, meteorites and interplanetary dust particles may contribute as
much as 30 percent by weight to a clump of martian soil. And these
sources can hold as much as 10 times the quantity of metal, sulfide, or
magnetite found in martian rocks.

Chevrier and colleagues exposed powders of synthetic iron and magnetite
(an iron oxide, Fe3O4) and natural hexagonal pyrrhotite (an iron
sulfide, Fe9S10) for a full year in two atmospheres - water plus carbon
dioxide for one set, water plus hydrogen peroxide for the other. To
speed up chemical reactions and to mimic the warmer climate many suspect
prevailed in the martian past, both temperature and atmospheric pressure
were kept higher than those on the Red Planet today.

Magnetite exhibited no change in structure or composition in either
atmosphere, which suggests that on Mars, as on Earth, the mineral simply
weathers out of bedrock.

Metallic iron remained unchanged even after one year in the peroxide
atmosphere, but in the water atmosphere, it underwent rapid changes. The
sample turned an olive color after 19 days, was a "deep, dusky red" by
day 75, and a "dark, yellowish brown" by the experiment's end. It became
increasingly crystalline, too, eventually forming the minerals siderite
and goethite. Goethite can change to hematite in a waterless
environment, so any goethite that formed when the martian environment
was warmer and wetter may exist under layers of hematite today.

The pyrrhotite turned yellow-red after just 5 days in the peroxide
atmosphere, but it took about 100 days to turn a dark, brownish red in
the water atmosphere. In both cases, though, the same minerals formed:
goethite, sulfur, and small amounts of iron sulfates. One of the
sulfates was jarosite, which was identified at Meridiani Planum by the
Opportunity rover last spring.

The scientists reported their results in the December issue of Geology.
They say the experiment reveals a possible mechanism for creating these
minerals on Mars without invoking features not seen there today, such as
oxygen, acid vapor, or extensive bodies of surface water. -- Francis Reddy


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[meteorite-list] Deep Impact Update - December 14, 2004

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/launchingrockets/status/2004/elvstatus-121404.html

12.14.04

George H. Diller
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
(321) 867-2468
STATUS REPORT: ELV-121404

EXPENDABLE LAUNCH VEHICLES STATUS REPORT

MISSION: Deep Impact
LAUNCH VEHICLE: Delta II 7925
LAUNCH PAD: Pad 17-B Cape Canaveral Air Force Station
LAUNCH DATE: NET Jan. 12, 2005
LAUNCH WINDOW: 1:08:20 p.m. and 1:48:04 p.m. EST instantaneous 

The launch of the Deep Impact spacecraft has been rescheduled for no 
earlier than Jan. 12. During a review of launch vehicle hardware, it 
was discovered that some components of the inter-stage adapter did 
not receive proper heat treatment and must be removed and replaced. 
The inter-stage adapter is located between the first and second stage 
of the rocket. A Boeing engineer reviewing an "as-built" drawing of 
the vehicle discovered the inter-stage had not been heat treated to a 
revised higher specification.

The second stage will be removed from the vehicle on Dec. 15, the 
inter-stage adapter removed on Dec. 16, a new inter-stage adapter 
installed on Dec. 17, and the second stage re-installed on Dec. 18.

In processing activities at the Astrotech Space Operations facility 
located near Kennedy Space Center, the high-gain antenna used for 
Deep Impact communications with Earth has been installed. The solar 
array panels have successfully completed an illumination test as a 
final check of their performance. The flight battery associated with 
the solar array panels has been installed. Fueling of the spacecraft 
is scheduled to start on Dec. 19 and be completed on Dec. 22. Mating 
to the payload attach fitting and upper stage booster occurs Dec. 29 
- 30.

At Launch Pad 17-B, the loading of liquid oxygen aboard the first 
stage for a leak check and a countdown launch team certification 
exercise occurred Dec. 13. The vehicle guidance and control system 
check occurs on Dec. 28. The Flight Simulation, a plus count that 
exercises all of the systems on the vehicle as they will occur during 
powered flight, is scheduled for Dec. 29.

The Deep Impact spacecraft is now scheduled to be transported to Pad 
17-B on Jan. 3 and mated to the Boeing Delta II rocket. The Flight 
Program Verification, the major integrated test with the Delta II, 
occurs on Dec. 30. The Delta II payload fairing will be installed 
around the Deep Impact spacecraft on Jan. 7.

The overall Deep Impact mission management for this Discovery class 
program is conducted by the University of Maryland in College Park, 
Md. Deep Impact project management is handled by the Jet Propulsion 
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. The spacecraft was built for NASA by 
Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corporation.


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[meteorite-list] NASA Set To Launch First Comet Impact Probe (Deep Impact)

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Baalke


Donald Savage
Headquarters, Washington Dec. 14, 2004
(Phone: 202/358-1727)

D.C. Agle
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
(Phone: 818/393-9011)

George Diller
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
(Phone: 321/867-2468)

RELEASE: 04-392

NASA SET TO LAUNCH FIRST COMET IMPACT PROBE

Launch and flight teams are in final preparations for the 
planned Jan. 12, 2005, liftoff from Cape Canaveral Air Force 
Station, Fla., of NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft. The mission 
is designed for a six-month, one-way, 431 million kilometer 
(268 million mile) voyage. Deep Impact will deploy a probe 
that essentially will be "run over" by the nucleus of comet 
Tempel 1 at approximately 37,000 kph (23,000 mph).

"From central Florida to the surface of a comet in six months 
is almost instant gratification from a deep space mission 
viewpoint," said Rick Grammier, Deep Impact project manager 
at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena, Calif. 
"It is going to be an exciting mission, and we can all 
witness its culmination together as Deep Impact provides the 
planet with its first man-made celestial fireworks on our 
nation's birthday, July 4th," he said. 

The fireworks will be courtesy of a 1-by-1-meter (39-by-39 
inches) copper-fortified probe. It is designed to obliterate 
itself, as it excavates a crater possibly large enough to 
swallow the Roman Coliseum. Before, during and after the 
demise of this 372-kilogram (820-pound) impactor, a nearby 
spacecraft will be watching the 6-kilometer (3.7-mile) wide 
comet nucleus, collecting pictures and data of the event.

"We will be capturing the whole thing on the most powerful 
camera to fly in deep space," said University of Maryland 
astronomy professor Dr. Michael A'Hearn, Deep Impact's 
principal investigator. "We know so little about the 
structure of cometary nuclei that we need exceptional 
equipment to ensure that we capture the event, whatever the 
details of the impact turn out to be," he explained.

Imagery and other data from the Deep Impact cameras will be 
sent back to Earth through the antennas of the Deep Space 
Network. But they will not be the only eyes on the prize. 
NASA's Chandra, Hubble and Spitzer space telescopes will be 
observing from near-Earth space. Hundreds of miles below, 
professional and amateur astronomers on Earth will also be 
able to observe the material flying from the comet's newly 
formed crater.

Deep Impact will provide a glimpse beneath the surface of a 
comet, where material and debris from the solar system's 
formation remain relatively unchanged. Mission scientists are 
confident the project will answer basic questions about the 
formation of the solar system, by offering a better look at 
the nature and composition of the celestial travelers we call 
comets.

"Understanding conditions that lead to the formation of 
planets is a goal of NASA's mission of exploration," said 
Andy Dantzler, acting director of the Solar System division 
at NASA Headquarters, Washington. "Deep Impact is a bold, 
innovative and exciting mission which will attempt something 
never done before to try to uncover clues about our own 
origins." 

With a closing speed of about 37,000 kph (23,000 mph), what 
of the washing machine-sized impactor and its mountain-sized 
quarry?

"In the world of science, this is the astronomical equivalent 
of a 767 airliner running into a mosquito," said Don Yeomans, 
a Deep Impact mission scientist at JPL. "It simply will not 
appreciably modify the comet's orbital path. Comet Tempel 1 
poses no threat to the Earth now or in the foreseeable 
future," he added.

Ball Aerospace & Technologies in Boulder, Colo., built NASA's 
Deep Impact spacecraft. It was shipped to Florida Oct. 17 to 
begin final preparations for launch. Liftoff is scheduled for 
Jan. 8 at 1:39:50 p.m. EST, with another opportunity 40 
minutes later.

Principal Investigator A'Hearn leads the mission from the 
University of Maryland, College Park. JPL manages the Deep 
Impact project for the Science Mission Directorate at NASA 
Headquarters. Deep Impact is a mission in NASA's Discovery 
Program of moderately priced solar system exploration 
missions.

For more information about Deep Impact on the Internet, 
visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/deepimpact

For more information about NASA and agency programs on the 
Internet, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov

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[meteorite-list] NWA 2504 - a beauty

2004-12-14 Thread Bernhard Rems
Hi,

maybe you remember that Stefan Ralew from Berlin offered a couple of unusual
chondrites from Northwest Africa here lately. I purchased some of the
slices, and I received them today. I want to point you to a picture of NWA
2504, a partially impact melted H/L3-4:

http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/nwa25041540

No further comments from my side, just enjoy this beauty. The picture wasn't
enhanced other than adjusted in brightness a little. No sharpening, no
contrast enhancement - that's just the way it looks.

Bernhard


PS: Every other piece I have received from Stefan is just beautiful as
well...


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[meteorite-list] Metsale Auctions

2004-12-14 Thread Bernhard Rems
Hi,

just wanted to inform you that at the time I am writing this, five
interesting auctions are running at http://www.metsale.com. Have a look,
bid, and auction your meteorites yourself as well.

Bernhard


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[meteorite-list] magnetique meteorite

2004-12-14 Thread braik bouchaib
hello friend clic here 
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[meteorite-list] Latest updates on Ivanpah status

2004-12-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List,

Several have expressed concern about the information I provided the other
night. I will share some comments that make since to me provided by another
List member with permission after a few clarifications.

A question about getting a permit came up.  We were told that we were not
even allowed to walk on the dry lake surface without a permit.  We asked
about a couple of wind sailors on the bed and were told they had permits.
We asked how to get the permits and were told you needed to have political
clout in order to obtain one.  The park ranger asked how we entered the lake
bed and we showed him a gate that had been opened earlier with no signs
warning people to stay off.  It was now locked and magically there was a
crooked and faded sign saying the lake bed was closed.  This appeared to our
team to be a catch-em-alive trap in order to generate revenue.  We split the
cost of the ticket between team members and vowed to get permits for next
year.

Here are some insights provided by another List member that make sense to
me:

At Primm or Ivanpah dry lake..Molycorp dumps their mine tailing wash
into the lake bed about center of the bed.that may be the fenced area
you talked about.   There is no experiments going on there that I know of.
Just several years ago the dry lake was free to all craft including land
sailors and airplanes.  Just like the BLM to close it off.

Molycorp is mining rare earths up in Mt. Pass.they pipe their waste
water down the canyon and dump it into ponds where the water seeps into the
ground water and also evaporates.  There is a lot of push pull going on
between Molycorp and the Feds and The State of CAover Molycorp's
expansion plans.Molycorp brought up this idea that there was radiation
in the ore and that no one should be living thereso they wanted the CHP
and Caltrans housing taken out so they could expand...using the radiation
scare as a tactic...however the State is holding firm and our employees have
even worn rad detector badges.  Out here in the desert there is quite a bit
of background radiation and some deposits of uranium.

In any case, Ivanpah is now closed without a permit.

All the best,


Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread CMcdon0923
Beautiful clear night here in the Dallas area.but a bit on the cold side 
(30F).  I only spent a few minutes out watching around midnight, but saw 
several nice meteors in that short period.

Craig
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread tracy latimer
I had a 'brain fut' and didn't even think to go out and look.  Sigh, 
squared.

Tracy Latimer
From: Thomas Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:58:01 -0800 (PST)
Snowing hard here in Western NC also.  No chance.
Thomas
--- "J. Devon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Snowing hard here in southcentral Alaska.
> Sigh..
> Jeannie
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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> > Nice and foggy here for the 5th day/night in a
> row.  Guess it's some kind
> > of inversion of something for the Little Colorado
> River Valley Authority.
> > At least the inversion isn't dipping into the
> frigid temps.  Enjoy you
> > guys!!!
> >
> > David Freeman wrote:
> >
> >> Ah roger will~co here, plenty of ooh's and
> aah's...  ;-)
> >> SW Wyoming over and out.
> >> Dave F.
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>> In a message dated 12/13/2004 9:45:49 PM Eastern
>  Standard Time,
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>> Kingman is having a good  shower tonight.  How
> are they in your area?
> >>> I'm
> >>> seeing a good one  every couple of minutes.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Tom
> >>> peregrineflier  <><
> >>> IMCA  6168
> >>>
>
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> >>>
> >>> Already  a good show here in SC. Saw three that
> was very bright right in
> >>> a  row.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Michael Johnson
> >>> SPACE ROCKS, INC.
> >>> 380 Cleveland  Street
> >>> Pacolet, South Carolina
> >>> 29372
> >>>
> >>> Tel: (864) 578  5188
> >>>
> >>> SPACE ROCKS,  INC.:
> >>>
>
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/spacerocksinc.html
> >>>
> >>> ROCKS  FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE  DAY:
> >>>
> http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Calendar.html
> >>>
> >>> GALLERY:
> >>> http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/rfsdmp
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Re: [meteorite-list] Kainsaz curio

2004-12-14 Thread Dave Harris






Hi Frank,
 
Another listee said they thought it was a rust/weathering artifact, but it is definately mineralogically differentiated - maybe I'll take a higher res macro shot of it.
Last week I was using the SEM at the Natural History Museum - that would have been perfect to resolve the composition of this artefact.
Odd looking stuff!
 
Thanks!
 
 
dave
IMCA #0092
Sec. BIMS
 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: fcressy
Date: 12/14/04 18:35:42
To: Dave Harris; metlist
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kainsaz curio
 
Hi Dave and all,
 
Kainsaz fell in 1937, but I believe the specimens that Finmet are selling
come from fairly recent finds.  I also believe that some photos of the find
area were posted to the list within the last couple of years, and that the
area is very wooded.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's possible that what
we're seeing is a weathering phenomena from it's "death" on earth and not
inclusions. At any rate, it's a very cool looking slice.
 
Sincerely,
Frank
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:45 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Kainsaz curio
 
 
> Hi,
> I got a 12.5g slice of Kainsaz from Finmet today (and what a slice too!!!)
> Look at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.harris580/kainsaz2.jpg - any idea
> what these really strange inclusions are? Almost looks like enormous
> chondrules!
>
>
> Advise, per-lease!!
>
> much appreciated
>
>
> dave
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Re: [meteorite-list] Kainsaz curio

2004-12-14 Thread fcressy
Hi Dave and all,

Kainsaz fell in 1937, but I believe the specimens that Finmet are selling
come from fairly recent finds.  I also believe that some photos of the find
area were posted to the list within the last couple of years, and that the
area is very wooded.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's possible that what
we're seeing is a weathering phenomena from it's "death" on earth and not
inclusions. At any rate, it's a very cool looking slice.

Sincerely,
Frank


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To: metlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:45 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Kainsaz curio


> Hi,
> I got a 12.5g slice of Kainsaz from Finmet today (and what a slice too!!!)
> Look at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.harris580/kainsaz2.jpg - any idea
> what these really strange inclusions are? Almost looks like enormous
> chondrules!
>
>
> Advise, per-lease!!
>
> much appreciated
>
>
> dave
>
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> Sec. BIMS
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[meteorite-list] NASA Selects Investigations For The Mars Science Laboratory

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Baalke


Donald Savage/Gretchen Cook-Anderson
Headquarters, WashingtonDecember 14, 2004
(Phone: 202/358-1727/0836)

RELEASE: 04-398

NASA SELECTS INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE MARS SCIENCE LABORATORY

 NASA has selected eight proposals to provide 
instrumentation and associated science investigations for the 
mobile Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) rover, scheduled for 
launch in 2009. Proposals selected today were submitted to 
NASA in response to an Announcement of Opportunity (AO) 
released in April.

The MSL mission, part of NASA's Mars Exploration Program, 
will deliver a mobile laboratory to the surface of Mars to 
explore a local region as a potential habitat for past or 
present life. MSL will operate under its own power. It is 
expected to remain active for one Mars year, equal to two 
Earth years, after landing.

In addition to the instrumentation selected, MSL will carry a 
pulsed neutron source and detector for measuring hydrogen 
(including water), provided by the Russian Federal Space 
Agency. The project also will include a meteorological 
package and an ultraviolet sensor provided by the Spanish 
Ministry of Education and Science.

"This mission represents a tremendous leap forward in the 
exploration of Mars," said NASA's Deputy Associate 
Administrator for the Science Mission Directorate, Dr. 
Ghassem Asrar. "MSL is the next logical step beyond the twin 
Spirit and Opportunity rovers. It will use a unique set of 
analytical tools to study the red planet for over a year and 
unveil the past and present conditions for habitability of 
Mars," Asrar said.

"The Mars Science Laboratory is an extremely capable system, 
and the selected instruments will bring an analytical 
laboratory to the martian surface for the first time since 
the Viking Landers over 25 years ago," said Douglas 
McCuistion, Mars Exploration Program director at NASA 
Headquarters.

The selected proposals will conduct preliminary design 
studies to focus on how the instruments can be accommodated 
on the mobile platform, completed and delivered consistent 
with the mission schedule. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory 
(JPL), Pasadena, Calif., manages the MSL Project for the 
Science Mission Directorate.

Selected investigations and principal investigators:

--  "Mars Science Laboratory Mast Camera," Michael Malin, 
Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS), San Diego, Calif. Mast 
Camera will perform multi-spectral, stereo imaging at lengths 
ranging from kilometers to centimeters, and can acquire 
compressed high-definition video at 10 frames per second 
without the use of the rover computer.

--  "ChemCam: Laser Induced Remote Sensing for Chemistry and 
Micro-Imaging," Roger Wiens, Los Alamos National Laboratory, 
Los Alamos, N.M. ChemCam will ablate surface coatings from 
materials at standoff distances of up to 10 meters and 
measure elemental composition of underlying rocks and soils.

--  "MAHLI: MArs HandLens Imager for the Mars Science 
Laboratory," Kenneth Edgett, MSSS. MAHLI will image rocks, 
soil, frost and ice at resolutions 2.4 times better, and with 
a wider field of view, than the Microscopic Imager on the 
Mars Exploration Rovers. 

--  "The Alpha-Particle-X-ray-Spectrometer for Mars Science 
Laboratory (APXS)," Ralf Gellert, Max-Planck-Institute for 
Chemistry, Mainz, Germany. APXS will determine elemental 
abundance of rocks and soil. APXS will be provided by the 
Canadian Space Agency.

--  "CheMin: An X-ray Diffraction/X-ray Fluorescence 
(XRD/XRF) instrument for definitive mineralogical analysis in 
the Analytical Laboratory of MSL," David Blake, NASA's Ames 
Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. CheMin, will identify 
and quantify all minerals in complex natural samples such as 
basalts, evaporites and soils, one of the principle 
objectives of Mars Science Laboratory.

--  "Radiation Assessment Detector (RAD)," Donald Hassler, 
Southwest Research Institute, Boulder, Colo. RAD will 
characterize the broad spectrum of radiation at the surface 
of Mars, an essential precursor to human exploration of the 
planet. RAD will be funded by the Exploration Systems Mission 
Directorate at NASA Headquarters.

--  "Mars Descent Imager," Michael Malin, MSSS. The Mars 
Descent Imager will produce high-resolution color-video 
imagery of the MSL descent and landing phase, providing 
geological context information, as well as allowing for 
precise landing-site determination.
 
--  "Sample Analysis at Mars with an integrated suite 
consisting of a gas chromatograph mass spectrometer, and a 
tunable laser spectrometer (SAM)," Paul Mahaffy, NASA's 
Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. SAM will perform 
mineral and atmospheric analyses, detect a wide range of 
organic compounds and perform stable isotope analyses of 
organics and noble gases.


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[meteorite-list] Bright Fireball Sighted Over China

2004-12-14 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-12/14/content_400107.htm

Mass UFO spotted in Gansu Province
China Daily
December 14, 2004

Hundreds of people in northwest China's Gansu Province witnessed an
unidentified flying object (UFO) Saturday night, and local police are
searching for what may have dropped in the area.

[Image}
A woman shows a piece of meteorite dropped onto the earth after the
nightly explosion in Gansu Province Saturday night. ufo [newsphoto]
A woman shows a piece of meteorite dropped onto the earth after the
nightly explosion in Gansu Province Saturday night. 

Witnesses in Gansu's capital Lanzhou said that a strange shining object
swept through the sky at about 11:36 p.m. Saturday, following by
earthshaking sounds like bombing. They also reported that an ensuing
tremble was felt within 100 sq km from Lanzhou.

One of them, a driver surnamed Zhang, said that he saw a shining ball
with a three-meter-long trail flying from west to east and heard two
thunders right after, when he was driving from Lanzhou city to
neighboring Yongdeng county.

The local public security department confirmed that they have received
more than 700 reports on the case, some saying it was an earthquake, and
others saying it was an aerolite falling. The department has sent
policemen to search for possible fallen objects but found nothing so far.

Liu Yanan, astronomy professor at the Northwest Normal University, said
that it might be a meteoroid entering the earth's atmosphere.

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http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-12/14/content_400144.htm

Night sky lit up by possible meteor
By Fu Jing 
China Daily
December 14, 2004

The cause of the fireball seen streaking through the night sky on
Saturday in Southwest China's Gansu Province has not yet been confirmed.

[Image]
A piece of magnet (singled out by white circle)  sticks to a burnt rock,
which a local Lanzhou villager said was the fireball lighting up the sky
on Saturday night. 

"Rumbling, rumbling, rumbling, and then bang," said fireman Chen
Yuanrong, from Lanzhou in the province, who admitted being left
speechless by what he saw.

The Gansu Provincial Seismology Bureau recorded that an explosion took
place in the suburbs, some 60 kilometres from downtown Lanzhou. By press
time, the strange burning object, or what remains of it, had not been
found.

Chen said he is among hundreds of Lanzhou residents who reportedly
spotted the "strange object" sweeping through the sky at 11:36 pm on
Saturday. It was accompanied by earth-shattering rumbles.

"Nearly all of my fellow firemen heard the sounds, but I was lucky
enough to see the bright object," Chen told China Daily yesterday.

At about 11:20 pm, the rumbling began and lasted approximately 15
minutes. Lying on his bed and looking out of his dormitory window, Chen
saw the object lighting up the sky, turning night into day.

"Finally came the bang, but a long rumbling preceded it," Chen said.

Xinhua News Agency reported that authorities are scouring the area for
any debris that could have fallen from the sky.

According to the Beijing-based China Times, many eyewitnesses reported
seeing two trails of unusually bright light. A taxi driver told the
paper he was in his car when everything suddenly became "as bright as day."

When he pulled over, he saw a fireball with a long tail streaking across
the sky, he said.

Police, working on the theory that it was a meteorite, set out to
investigate the matter, but they have found no concrete evidence.

The local security department confirmed they had received more than 700
calls from people reporting the sighting. Some claimed it was an
earthquake, and others assumed it was a falling aircraft.

Liu Yanan, astronomy professor at the Northwest Normal University, said
it might have been a meteorite entering the earth's atmosphere.

Local media are eager to uncover the facts or obtain evidence that could
contribute to a scientific explanation.

The Lanzhou Morning News has even posted a reward of 5,000 yuan (US$602)
for anyone offering a substantial lead.

Zeng Dehua, a reporter from the Lanzhou Evening News, said he was
closely following the UFO theory.

But he added that local authorities and research organizations have
shown little interest in finding where the object landed or what it is.

A fire broke out on a farm near Lanzhou on Saturday night which was
presumed to be caused by the fireball, and by press time Zeng, together
with local police, was on his way to the site, a three-hour drive from
Lanzhou.


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[meteorite-list] Kainsaz curio

2004-12-14 Thread Dave Harris
Hi,
I got a 12.5g slice of Kainsaz from Finmet today (and what a slice too!!!)
Look at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.harris580/kainsaz2.jpg - any idea
what these really strange inclusions are? Almost looks like enormous
chondrules!


Advise, per-lease!!

much appreciated


dave

IMCA #0092
Sec. BIMS 
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[meteorite-list] Unsuscribe

2004-12-14 Thread erich haiderer
Sorry if I sent to wrong recipient

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Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread Robert Woolard
Good show in Little Rock, AR. Several nice bright
ones. A few "clusters" of 3-4 almost simultaneously
now and then.

  Robert Woolard






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[meteorite-list] R.Norton email

2004-12-14 Thread McomeMeteorite Meteorite
I need the email of R.Norton, thanks
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[meteorite-list] Call for Auction entries - ad

2004-12-14 Thread mlblood
Now is the time to submit specimens for sale in the Tucson
Auction.
 Right now, there are 75 entries - nearly every one is
very fine and most are with NO RESERVE.
  Let's make it 125 with excellent photos - this week. 
  RSVP off list.
  Best wishes, Michael

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Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower

2004-12-14 Thread moni waiblinger-seabridge
No aahs or oohs in Sacramento - too foggy!
Cool two-day-old crescent moon before
setting early this evening against the evening sky and before the fog set 
in.  :-)

Sternengruss, Moni

From: David Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great Meteor Shower
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:17:43 -0700
Ah roger will~co here, plenty of ooh's and aah's...  ;-)
SW Wyoming over and out.
Dave F.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/13/2004 9:45:49 PM Eastern  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kingman is having a good  shower tonight.  How are they in your area?  I'm
seeing a good one  every couple of minutes.

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier  <><
IMCA  6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
Already  a good show here in SC. Saw three that was very bright right in a 
 row.

Regards,
Michael Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
380 Cleveland  Street
Pacolet, South Carolina
29372
Tel: (864) 578  5188
SPACE ROCKS,  INC.:
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/spacerocksinc.html
ROCKS  FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE  DAY:
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Calendar.html
GALLERY:
http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/rfsdmp
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