Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 'News' OFF TOPIC DELETE
Dear List; I predict that tomorrows bowl game news update notes that a meteor flew across Las Vegas at 1127 tonight and caught UCLA sleeping. Dave happy! Cowboy Walter Branch wrote: Hi Ken and List, "Experts do not know why incidents with meteorites have become so frequent nowadays. One of the versions says that someone in deep black space deliberately bombards the Earth with meteorites. " Ever read T. R. LeMaire's book "Stones from the Stars" From the dust jacket... "Why do 'Sociable Stone' meteorites usually fall near human habitation, while 'Shy Irons' descend in remote desert regions" and... "...Earth has been spared (from cosmic cataclysm). Intentionally? Have meteorites somehow been used to survey - even engineer - the face of the third planet from the sun?" On the other hand, the book has some nice photos, particularly Willamette and Ahnighito. -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Gets Initial Elevated Risk Rating, But Impact Unlikely (Asteroid 2004 MN4)
Hi, The best chance of refining the orbit of 2004 MN4 lies in a search for sky photos of the times and places in the past when this object should have been visible. In the case of the last object with a chance of hitting the Earth in the future (in 2018), the successful search for what are called "pre-discovery" images from years previous to its official "discovery" refined the orbit enough to eliminate that future collision probability. If such images could be found for 2004 MN4's previous approaches, the further back the better, the orbit could be determined with much greater precision than observations over the next six months. The object is certainly large enough (and hence bright enough) to have shown up in past sky plates. The chief difficulty in finding such images is that the object's orbit lies mostly inside the Earth's orbit, to Sunward, where observation is difficult if not impossible for most of the year. The search would have to be for the periods each year after April 13, when the object is exterior to the Earth's orbit. You'll recall there was a very, very close approach just earlier this week by a very small object (16 feet) which also approached from the Sunward (blind) side. Often forgot in these discussions is the fact that while the probability of an impact is often low or negligible at any one crossing of the Earth's orbit, in the long run, the chance of eventually impacting with a low-inclination Earth-crossing object is virtually 100%. It takes the Earth approximately 432 seconds for its entire diameter to pass a specific point on its orbital path, creating 200 chances to be impacted at a specific point every day. In the case of an object with exactly the same inclination as the Earth which crossed the Earth's orbit on the same day at the same point every year, a collision would be inevitable at some point in that 73,050 year cycle (365.25 times 200). And objects with very low inclinations will always be perturbed, repeatedly, into and out of a matching inclination with the Earth's orbit. In other words, sooner or later, they're gonna get ya! While we are busily cataloging the easy-to-observe exterior objects, very little is being done to discover the hard-to-observe Sunward objects because the strategies are hard (i.e., expensive) to implement, like photographing the western horizon just before dawn to catch objects that have just crossed the Earth's orbit. Yet Aten class Earth crossers --- whose numbers are not well known nor even well-estimated --- are vastly more dangerous than the better cataloged Apollos and Amors, for just that reason. Sterling K. Webb - Herbert Raab wrote: > Charles Viau wrote: > > > Are our orbital calculating capabilities really good enough to > > project out 25 years on such a small object? > > Yes and no. The calculating capabilities are certainly not the > limiting factor, but rather the limited amount of observations > (35) on a limited number of nights (5), each with small (but > a-priori unknown) error limits the accuarcy. > > A number of possible orbits for such an asteroid can be found > that agrees with the available observations. On some of these > orbits, the asteroid will have a close encounter with Earth in > 2029, on others (on 1 in 300 or so) the object will collide with > our home planet. There is no way to tell which of these orbits > is the "true" path along which the asteroid moves, unless more > data is collected. > > When additional observations are added (the object is observable > until May 2005), the number of orbits compatible with the available > observations will be narrowed, the uncertainty in the predicted > position for 2029 will decrease, and in all likelyhood, the impact > solutions will be removed. > > Happy holiday to all! > > Herbert Raab > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 85 ebay auctions!
Hello list, right now I have 4 thin sections, a Meteor Crater Study Kit and 20 books/booklets/reprints from my collection that I offer for sale on ebay.com. In addition I have 60 meteorite auctions (e.g.: NWA 1068,martian, 2.9g Gujba, 18 g Cape York,...) on ebay.de. Please go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6500971971&rd=1 and then click on: View seller's other items, or try this one: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZpema9QQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsosortpropertyZ1 Many thanks! Peter Marmet Bern, Switzerland BTW: I will send all items Priority Air Mail, so it takes only 4 to 5 days from here to the US... and you can use paypal:-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 85 items on ebay!
Hello list, right now I have 4 thin sections, a Meteor Crater Study Kit and 20 books/booklets/reprints from my collection that I offer for sale on ebay.com. In addition I have 60 meteorite auctions (e.g.: NWA 1068,martian, 2.9g Gujba, 18 g Cape York,...) on ebay.de. Please go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6500971971&rd=1 and then click on: View seller's other items, or try this one: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZpema9QQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsosortpropertyZ1 Many thanks! Peter Marmet Bern, Switzerland BTW: I will send all items Priority Air Mail, so it takes only 4 to 5 days from here to the US... and you can use paypal:-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test - please delete
Test - please delete! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Gets Initial Elevated Risk Rating, But Impact Unlikely (Asteroid 2004 MN4)
Thanks to Ron (original article) and comments by Herbert and Sterling. Fantastic facts, and one of the greatest reasons to be on this list. I sure hope that our technology can get a handle on these errant missiles before something happens that makes our collections irrelevant. Regards, CharlyV -Original Message- From: Sterling K. Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:19 AM To: Meteorite List Cc: Herbert Raab; Charles Viau Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Gets Initial Elevated Risk Rating,But Impact Unlikely (Asteroid 2004 MN4) Hi, The best chance of refining the orbit of 2004 MN4 lies in a search for sky photos of the times and places in the past when this object should have been visible. In the case of the last object with a chance of hitting the Earth in the future (in 2018), the successful search for what are called "pre-discovery" images from years previous to its official "discovery" refined the orbit enough to eliminate that future collision probability. If such images could be found for 2004 MN4's previous approaches, the further back the better, the orbit could be determined with much greater precision than observations over the next six months. The object is certainly large enough (and hence bright enough) to have shown up in past sky plates. The chief difficulty in finding such images is that the object's orbit lies mostly inside the Earth's orbit, to Sunward, where observation is difficult if not impossible for most of the year. The search would have to be for the periods each year after April 13, when the object is exterior to the Earth's orbit. You'll recall there was a very, very close approach just earlier this week by a very small object (16 feet) which also approached from the Sunward (blind) side. Often forgot in these discussions is the fact that while the probability of an impact is often low or negligible at any one crossing of the Earth's orbit, in the long run, the chance of eventually impacting with a low-inclination Earth-crossing object is virtually 100%. It takes the Earth approximately 432 seconds for its entire diameter to pass a specific point on its orbital path, creating 200 chances to be impacted at a specific point every day. In the case of an object with exactly the same inclination as the Earth which crossed the Earth's orbit on the same day at the same point every year, a collision would be inevitable at some point in that 73,050 year cycle (365.25 times 200). And objects with very low inclinations will always be perturbed, repeatedly, into and out of a matching inclination with the Earth's orbit. In other words, sooner or later, they're gonna get ya! While we are busily cataloging the easy-to-observe exterior objects, very little is being done to discover the hard-to-observe Sunward objects because the strategies are hard (i.e., expensive) to implement, like photographing the western horizon just before dawn to catch objects that have just crossed the Earth's orbit. Yet Aten class Earth crossers --- whose numbers are not well known nor even well-estimated --- are vastly more dangerous than the better cataloged Apollos and Amors, for just that reason. Sterling K. Webb - Herbert Raab wrote: > Charles Viau wrote: > > > Are our orbital calculating capabilities really good enough to > > project out 25 years on such a small object? > > Yes and no. The calculating capabilities are certainly not the > limiting factor, but rather the limited amount of observations > (35) on a limited number of nights (5), each with small (but > a-priori unknown) error limits the accuarcy. > > A number of possible orbits for such an asteroid can be found > that agrees with the available observations. On some of these > orbits, the asteroid will have a close encounter with Earth in > 2029, on others (on 1 in 300 or so) the object will collide with > our home planet. There is no way to tell which of these orbits > is the "true" path along which the asteroid moves, unless more > data is collected. > > When additional observations are added (the object is observable > until May 2005), the number of orbits compatible with the available > observations will be narrowed, the uncertainty in the predicted > position for 2029 will decrease, and in all likelyhood, the impact > solutions will be removed. > > Happy holiday to all! > > Herbert Raab > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 'News'
Hi Walter and all, I have read T. R. LeMaire's book "Stones from the Stars" (and have a copy or two I would be willing to sell ;-) The book actually starts out with some good information about meteorites but about half way through he starts to mention the systematic landings and draws lines on certain falls finds to show an intelligence is peppering the Earth with these messengers from space. Needless to say I decided not to waste more time reading the rest when it got out of line. Better to re-read Find a Falling Star. Hey think I might just do that. All my best! --AL Walter Branch wrote: > Hi Ken and List, > > Ever read T. R. LeMaire's book "Stones from the Stars" > > >From the dust jacket... > > "Why do 'Sociable Stone' meteorites usually fall near human > habitation, while 'Shy Irons' descend in remote desert regions" __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Christmas Story of a Different Kind (Off-topic)
Hi Bernd, Aziz, Pekka, Art, Dave Freeman, Doug and all of YOU in this List, I wish you all, a Feliz Natal = Merry Christmas and a Feliz Ano Novo = Happy New Year, with a nice meteorite fall near all of you...of course! That would be some +- 550 falls in 2005??? José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: "aziz habibi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] A Christmas Story of a Different Kind (Off-topic) merry christmas and happy new year to all yes bernd life is short and we have to enjoy it. all the best aziz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Christmas Story of a Different Kind (Off-topic) Date: 23 Dec 2004 22:11:10 UT Now - not tomorrow is the time for me ... .. to wish everybody a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Why now? About two hours ago, I was writing Christmas mails when suddenly the telephone rang. I thought it was my daughter but it was the wife of one of my neighbors. Our families have been friends for almost thirty years now. About seven years ago, he had to undergo surgery because of a tumor in his brain. Ever since his physical and mental health has deteriorated - slowly but steadily until he had his first stroke some time ago. Another stroke followed a few weeks ago leaving him unable to walk and rendering him incontinent. Back now to the telephone call - his wife urged us to come over as quickly as possible because he had fallen out of his wheelchair and she was unable to lift him up. We ran over to their house and there he was, on the floor, face down, a poor, pitiable, helpless creature. We helped get him back into his wheelchair, he was as heavy as a rock and I offered my help holding him upright while his wife changed his diapers before putting him to bed (with joint forces). I was very depressed, sad, and worn-out when we returned home but, in spite of or probably because of this occurrence, I do think this year's Christmas will be something special, a precious moment of contemplation and reflection for us here. Wishing everybody all the best, A Merry, Merry Christmas, And a Happy New Year, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY It has finally arrived.
What the whole meteorite community has been waiting for.My new digital camera has arrived safely into my house.It is a 4 megapixal by samsung.Finally new pictures by me.I fired my photo guy.Also concerning my meteorite sale.It is still 2 for 1, but make me a decent offer and I'll probably agree with you.Nothing stupid please.I want to get rid of everything if I can.Let me know.I am going to have fun with this little guy.YAAAY! MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL FROM COLD,BUT NO SNOW, CHICAGO!!! STEVE ARNOLD = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Areally great deal
Hi again list.If anyone is looking for a great piece of GUJBA,you have to go to eric twelkers website.He has reduced it.I got a real great deal for an 8.6 gram slice with alot of surface area.$275.00 for that piece.WOW!!I may never have another chance to get a piece that low in price.Thanks again eric.I look forward to getting my piece. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Richfield Christmas Sale
Merry Christmas to ALL I wish to offer my last Richfield specimen at Half price for Today and Tomorrow. You will find it listed on my homepage right side at the bottom . http://www.arn-meteorites.com Richfield...37'13'20' N., 101'40'53' W. Morton County, Kansas, U.S.A. Found 1983 Ordinary , Chondrite (LL3.7) A 40.8 kg stone was found while terracing a grain field. Main mass is with Blaine Reed. Part Slice 189g 150mm x 90mm x 6mm $2835 - 50% = $1417 + Free postage anywhere !! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] X-mas
* /-\ ** < * > * /_\ * * * / & \* /@.*;@,* /_o.I \* * / ;--. ,__ ') * * *;@ o O,* ' &\ */ ( '--)_@ ;o ()\ * * / ;--._ ''--._O'@; * /&*,() o ;-.,_ "" )* / ,@ ;+& () o* ;-';\* ( ""--.,_0 + % ' &()\* /-.,_ ''---' ) \* * / @o :;'--,.__ __.'\ ; \ /*,&(); @ &^; " o;@(); \* /(); o^ ; & ()[EMAIL PROTECTED]& ;&\:-\ * /="==""==,,,.,="=="==="\ __|| ___ | Lunar ||| / NWA / |_ | /\ /___/ Merry Christmas and Happy NEW YEAR to all Meteorite-list members, my friends and customers from PolandMET team - Marcin Cimała __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christmas Sale
Merry Christmas to ALL I wish to offer my last Richfield specimen at Half price for Today and Tomorrow. You will find it listed on my homepage right side at the bottom . http://www.arn-meteorites.com Richfield...37'13'20' N., 101'40'53' W. Morton County, Kansas, U.S.A. Found 1983 Ordinary , Chondrite (LL3.7) A 40.8 kg stone was found while terracing a grain field. Main mass is with Blaine Reed. Part Slice 189g 150mm x 90mm x 6mm $2835 - 50% = $1417 + Free postage anywhere !! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] X-mas
Hi Marcin and list, many thanks for your good wishes... The lunar box under your x-mas tree has the same size as the NWA box: WOW ! All the very best to you all for 2005! Peter Marmet Bern, Switzerland "Meteoryt.net" wrote: > * /-\ ** >< * > > * /_\ * * > * / & \* > /@.*;@,* > /_o.I \* * >/ ;--. ,__ ') * * > *;@ o O,* ' &\ >*/ ( '--)_@ ;o ()\ * * > / ;--._ ''--._O'@; * >/&*,() o ;-.,_ "" )* > / ,@ ;+& () o* ;-';\* > ( ""--.,_0 + % ' &()\* > /-.,_ ''---' ) \* >* / @o :;'--,.__ __.'\ ; \ > /*,&(); @ &^; " o;@(); \* > /(); o^ ; & ()[EMAIL PROTECTED]& ;&\:-\ * >/="==""==,,,.,="=="==="\ >__|| ___ >| Lunar ||| / NWA / >|_ | /\ /___/ > > Merry Christmas > and > Happy NEW YEAR > to all > Meteorite-list members, > my friends and customers > from > PolandMET team - Marcin Cima3a > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Elbogen
Great timing Dieter! My 1.9g etched part slice of Elbogen has arrived safely today. It's a great addition to my collection since I was born in Czechoslovakia back in 65, now the Czech Republic. I will definately have to make myself a custom label for this one. Now if I can only find more Canadian meteorites for my collection, something I will look forward to in the new year. Thanks again Dieter & Happy Holidays everyone! Roman Jirasek - Ontario, Canada www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Non NWA Lunar Update
Dear List, A lot of List members have been inquiring about the status of the Non-NWA lunar that we have made available for the last two years. Finally an abstract has been submitted, a name was recommended and then requested. I should have an update as early as this afternoon. The new name that was requested and not yet approved is NEA 001. From what I understand this name will more than likely be approved marking an event in the history of the management of meteorites from Northeast Africa. The coordinates are known for this Lunaite but will not be disclosed at this time however the country of origin will be released this afternoon. Its final classification will be very similar to Calcalong Creek including a slight Mare component. Thanks to all who have been patient in regards to this new Lunaite and congratulations to those who own some of it. Happy Holidays, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Need Information
Hello All, Does anyone have any information about a meteorite called Ankober outside of what is listed in A to Z and does anyone know if this piece is available. This is my sisters birthday meteorite and she has asked me to try and track it down! Cj Lebel IMCA# 3432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cjsmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2004 MN4 precovery
Hi Sterling, > The best chance of refining the orbit of 2004 MN4 lies in a search > for sky photos of the times and places in the past when this object > should have been visible. I did this a couple days ago -- alas, it is not predicted to be in any of the archived imagery from 644 Palomar or 608 Haleakala. And based on the present orbit, it is not expected to be in any of the DSS2 or DSS digitized survey plates. Of course as the orbit is refined, it may come to intersect one of the old survey plates. I don't have any easy way of telling if it's close to being on one of the plates or not. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Need Information
With a listed TKW of approximately 6.5kg, the Catalogue of Meteorites states that 6,9kg (main mass) are at the USNM. That seems a bit odd, but that's what the big book says. Another 183 grams is distributed among four other institutions. Good luck acquiring this fall from Ethiopia. If you are successful, let us know. Best, JKGwilliam At 01:22 PM 12/24/2004, Peanut .. wrote: Hello All, Does anyone have any information about a meteorite called Ankober outside of what is listed in A to Z and does anyone know if this piece is available. This is my sisters birthday meteorite and she has asked me to try and track it down! Cj Lebel IMCA# 3432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cjsmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy Christmas
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to each of you and your families! Best Wishes for the new Year! Cj Lebel IMCA# 3432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cjsmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mele Kalikimaka...
...and Hauoli Makahiki Hou! For the Hawaiian-impaired out there (shoots, I'm almost-everything-but-English-impaired :-) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Best wishes, and may you find the fall of your dreams in your stockings! It's Christmas Eve afternoon here, but undoubtedly already Christmas Day elsewhere. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] gmail & Xmas
Hello all, merry Xmas to all of you ! If somebody likes an gmail account, I can send an invitation, have 10 of them.Just let me know. best wishes from Germany, Joachim P&J Datenmanagement Max-Born-Ring 2 C, 37077 Göttingen Tel.: 0551 703657 Mobil: 0172 53 90 196 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Non NWA Lunar Update
Adam, Thanx for the update. The NEA 001 is a very nice lunar. I have a nice thin 0.59 g slice from you that has a bit of light colored crust(I think) or caliche ?, and a noticeable blob of FE/Ni metal in it. This piece a real favorite. Happy Holidays...time to play Santa. HO HO HO John -- Original message from "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- > Dear List, > > A lot of List members have been inquiring about the status of the Non-NWA > lunar that we have made available for the last two years. Finally an > abstract has been submitted, a name was recommended and then requested. I > should have an update as early as this afternoon. The new name that was > requested and not yet approved is NEA 001. From what I understand this name > will more than likely be approved marking an event in the history of the > management of meteorites from Northeast Africa. The coordinates are known > for this Lunaite but will not be disclosed at this time however the country > of origin will be released this afternoon. Its final classification will be > very similar to Calcalong Creek including a slight Mare component. > > Thanks to all who have been patient in regards to this new Lunaite and > congratulations to those who own some of it. > > Happy Holidays, > > > > Adam Hupe > The Hupe Collection > Team LunarRock > IMCA 2185 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Landmarks fame had meteoric rise (Meteor Crater Article)
Landmarks fame had meteoric rise By Paul Giblin, East Valley Tribune, Dec. 24, 2004 http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=32644 "METEOR CRATER - Philadelphia mining engineer Daniel Moreau Barringer heard about a deep circular hole in northern Arizona one day in 1902. That bit of information marked the start of one of the most bizarre adventures in Arizona history." __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid 2004 MN4 Update - December 24, 2004
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov Near-Earth Asteroid 2004 MN4 Don Yeomans, Steve Chesley and Paul Chodas NASA's Near Earth Object Program Office December 24, 2004 2004 MN4 is now being tracked very carefully by many astronmers around the world, and we continue to update our risk analysis (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk) for this object. Today's impact monitoring results indicate that the impact probability for April 13, 2029 has risen to about 1.6%, which for an object of this size corresponds to a rating of 4 on the ten-point Torino Scale. Nevertheless, the odds against impact are still high, about 60 to 1, meaning that there is a better than 98% chance that new data in the coming days, weeks, and months will rule out any possibility of impact in 2029. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christmas Greetings
Hello List, Merry Christmas to all - it was great to meet you all this year (both on and off the list). We're really lucky to have this group - a special thanks to Art Jones. May you all have a safe and prosperous 2005! I'm really excited and can't wait to see what new meteorites come along next year and also what develops as our hobby grows. Good health and good hunting, Mark Bowling Vail, AZ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Landmark's fame had meteoric rise (Meteor Crater Article)
"That bit of information marked the start of one of the most bizarre adventures in Arizona history." CORRECTION, That bit of information marked the start of one of the most bizarre cases of thievery in Arizona history." Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: "Paul H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Landmark's fame had meteoric rise (Meteor Crater Article) > > Landmark's fame had meteoric rise > By Paul Giblin, East Valley Tribune, Dec. 24, 2004 > http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=32644 > > "METEOR CRATER - Philadelphia mining engineer Daniel > Moreau Barringer heard about a deep circular hole in > northern Arizona one day in 1902. That bit of > information > marked the start of one of the most bizarre adventures > > in Arizona history." > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Amalthea Had A Far-Flung Past
http://subarutelescope.org/Pressrelease/2004/12/23/index.html Jupiter's Moon Had A Far-Flung Past National Astronomical Observatory of Japan December 23, 2004 The first ground based infrared spectrum of Jupiter's moon Amalthea reveals that it must have formed far from its current location. This new result, based on observations with the Subaru telescope and the NASA Infrared Telescope Facility by a team of researchers from the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan, the University of Hawaii, and the University of Tokyo, sheds new light on our Solar System's turbulent past. Planets like Earth and Jupiter formed from the disk of gas and dust swirling around the Sun at the time of its birth. Rocky planets like Earth formed in the high temperature environment close to the Sun, while large gaseous planets like Jupiter formed in the cooler regions farther away. Similarly, Jupiter, the largest planet in the solar system, probably had its own disk of gas and dust. The four moons of Jupiter discovered by Galileo (Io, Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto) are likely to have been born from this disk. In addition to the Galilean moons, Jupiter has two other types of satellites: four small inner moons orbiting Jupiter within the orbit of Io, the inner most Galilean satellite, and at least fifty five small outer moons outside the orbit of Callisto, the outer most Galilean satellite. All the outer satellites have tell-tale orbits that reveal that they must have been captured by Jupiter during or after the formation of the planet and its larger moons. The origin of the four small inner moons remain a mystery, however. They have orbits compatible with the hypothesis that they formed in orbit around Jupiter like the Galilean moons. On the other hand, their small irregular shapes and their comparatively low reflectivity and low densities resemble asteroids and suggest that they were captured by Jupiter's gravitational pull just like the outer moons. The mystery persists because of the challenge inherent in observing Jupiter's small inner moons from Earth. The moons are small and therefore faint, and they are obscured by the bright glare from Jupiter. Although NASA's space probes Voyager and Galileo have captured detailed images of Jupiter's small inner moons, these data have been insufficient for resolving the question of their origin. Naruhisa Takato from the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and his collaborators have now had success in obtaining the first infrared spectrum of two of Jupiter's small inner moons, Amalthea and Thebe. To obtain a spectrum over a wide range of infrared wavelengths, the group combined the strengths of two instruments on two telescopes on the summit of Mauna Kea, Hawaii. For high resolution spectroscopy at wavelengths longer than 3 mirometers ,the group used the Infrared Camera and Spectrograph on the Subaru telescope. For shorter wavelengths, the group used SpeX on the NASA IRTF, which has broad wavelength coverage. The new spectrum of Amalthea shows the characteristic signatures of water. The most likely location of this water is within water containing hydrous minerals. Such minerals typically form in low temperature environments, ruling out the possibility that Amalthea could have formed in the high temperature environment of Jupiter's immediate neighborhood while the planet was forming and where Amalthea now is. If Amalthea did not form near its present location, where did it come from? The surface of Amalthea resembles regions of Callisto that are not covered by ice. This suggests that Amalthea may have been one of the many small "micro-satellites" orbiting Jupiter that was sucked into an inner orbit when the Galilean moons formed. However, the spectrum of Amalthea has similarities with asteroids orbiting the Sun, suggesting that is was a "micro-planet" that was pulled into Jupiter's orbit when Jupiter itself was forming. Takato says "although we think Jupiter's moons formed as an assembly of many smaller bodies, the same way we think planets formed from 'planetesimals', until now we have not found any example of the original building blocks of a planet's moon. However, our results strengthen the argument that Amalthea is one of the few remaining pieces of the material that formed the Galilean moons. Amalthea may have ended up in orbit close to Jupiter rather than get incorporated into a larger moon or Jupiter itself. If this is the case, Amalthea would be the first known example of a 'satellitesimal.'" References: These results were published in the December 24, 2004, edition of the journal Science Vol. 306, 2224 - 2227. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Asteroid Gets Initial Elevated Risk Rating, ...(Asteroid 2004 MN4)
Ron Baalke quoted: Asteroid gets initial elevated risk rating, but impact unlikely By JOHN ANTCZAK, Associated Press December 23, 2004 ...text deleted... Asteroid 2004 MN4, believed to be about 1,300 feet long, potentially could impact Earth in 2029, based on a limited number of initial sightings, said Donald Yeomans, manager of the Near Earth Object Program at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena." I went to http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/ , and did some calculations. Assuming an average projectile velocity of 17 km/s, and 45 degree entry angle, the result for the impact of a dense rock object of this size in sedimentary rock is: "Transient Crater Diameter: 4.95 km = 3.07 miles Transient Crater Depth: 1.75 km = 1.09 miles Final Crater Diameter: 6.13 km = 3.8 miles Final Crater Depth: 0.511 km = 0.317 miles" In case of an iron projectile, in sedimentary rock, the result is: "Transient Crater Diameter: 7.08 km = 4.4 miles Transient Crater Depth: 2.5 km = 1.56 miles Final Crater Diameter: 9.19 km = 5.71 miles Final Crater Depth: 0.577 km = 0.358 miles" If this hits land, someone will definitely have a bad day and one hell of tourist attraction afterward. Given its small "footprint", if the rock could be directed to a specific piece of property, I image, a lot of states could find a 80 square area they would sacrifice as ground zero for its landing given the unlimited tourist potential such a crater would have. Is there any way to figure out what sort of tsunami a rock this size would cause? Best Regards, Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
