RE: [meteorite-list] Chondrules in Sikhote Alin?

[McomeMeteorite Meteorite]

100% a fake...
Matteo

From: ROCKS ON FIRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondrules in Sikhote Alin?
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:12:27 +1100
Hi, List,
have a look at this one  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6502199970&rd=1

What do you think. ;-)
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Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[Tom AKA James Knudson]

Fredric, Welcome to the active side (posting) of the list!  I heard there
are  laws to protect innocent people from lurkers, well maybe not list
lurkers, so never mind! : )
  I guess I would have to get rid of my collection to make me a real non
collector, so as long as I have one, I will always be. I have some
meteorites that are sentimental that I will always have. I guess if I ever
walk past a black rock with out taking a closer look, then I will know I no
longer love meteorites!
 Again, welcome, one great big happy family here on the list, an occasional
family squabble, but we all love each other in the end!

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
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- Original Message -
From: "Fredric Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:26 PM
Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] The non collector


>
> --
> From: Fredric Stephan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:20:37 -0700
> To: Jim Strope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector
>
> on 12/29/2004 11:58 AM, Jim Strope at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Stick around Tom!  Just because you are not actively adding to your
> > collection doesn't mean you have lost your love for meteorites.
Spending
> > money has nothing to do with the contribution one makes to the list or
> > knowledge and enjoyment gained.
> >
> > I would much rather see this list populated by people who love
meteorites
> > and don't spend money than I would by people who spend money and trash
other
> > list members.
> >
> > Hopefully the New Year will bring happiness to all..
> >
> > Jim Strope
> > 421 Fourth Street
> > Glen Dale, WV  26038
> >
> > http://www.catchafallingstar.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:54 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] The non collector
> >
> >
> >> Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector,
it
> >> does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do
> >> not
> >> know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
> >> meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect
them,
> >> for now. : )
> >>
> >> Thanks, Tom
> >> "the non collector"
> >> peregrineflier <><
> >> IMCA 6168
> >> http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> >>
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> Hello  List  Members :
>  I  am  new  to  this  list  as  well  as  the  IMCA  List. Name  here  is
> Fredric Stephan. I  live  in  the  BLACK HILLS  of  Beautiful  SW SOUTH
> DAKOTA . I  have  been  lurking  for  a  long  time.
> Watching  and  learning.
> Odds  very  high  that  many  others  are  watching this  list ?
> Time to  add  to  the  list  now  that  I  have  an  idea  of  the
> behavior.
>
> I  have  helped  out  in  West  Virginia ;  been  there;  Almost  as  nice
> as  here.  haha.
> I  agree  with  your  entire  message  JIM  S., especially  your
> encouragement  for  TOM.
> Hello  Tom .
> By  the  way,  3  days  last  week  , I  did  Not  collect meteorites ; so
> am  I  , therefore  a  non-collector ?  No,  it  all  is  a  matter  of
> time.   Where  do  we  draw  the  line ?Time. Information. Thinking.
> ETC.
> Tom  is  still  a  collector ;  right  now  a  collector  of  information
> as  well.  Right  TOM ?
> Once  a  meteorite addict ,  always. a . collector
.
> Happy  Trails,
> Fritz
>
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[meteorite-list] Chondrules in Sikhote Alin?

[ROCKS ON FIRE]

Hi, List,
have a look at this one  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6502199970&rd=1

What do you think. ;-)
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Norbert & Heike Kammel
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FW: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[Fredric Stephan]

--
From: Fredric Stephan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:20:37 -0700
To: Jim Strope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector

on 12/29/2004 11:58 AM, Jim Strope at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Stick around Tom!  Just because you are not actively adding to your
> collection doesn't mean you have lost your love for meteorites.  Spending
> money has nothing to do with the contribution one makes to the list or
> knowledge and enjoyment gained.
> 
> I would much rather see this list populated by people who love meteorites
> and don't spend money than I would by people who spend money and trash other
> list members.
> 
> Hopefully the New Year will bring happiness to all..
> 
> Jim Strope
> 421 Fourth Street
> Glen Dale, WV  26038
> 
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:54 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] The non collector
> 
> 
>> Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector, it
>> does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do
>> not
>> know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
>> meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect them,
>> for now. : )
>> 
>> Thanks, Tom
>> "the non collector"
>> peregrineflier <><
>> IMCA 6168
>> http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
>> 
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Hello  List  Members :
 I  am  new  to  this  list  as  well  as  the  IMCA  List. Name  here  is
Fredric Stephan. I  live  in  the  BLACK HILLS  of  Beautiful  SW SOUTH
DAKOTA . I  have  been  lurking  for  a  long  time.
Watching  and  learning.
Odds  very  high  that  many  others  are  watching this  list ?
Time to  add  to  the  list  now  that  I  have  an  idea  of  the
behavior.

I  have  helped  out  in  West  Virginia ;  been  there;  Almost  as  nice
as  here.  haha.
I  agree  with  your  entire  message  JIM  S., especially  your
encouragement  for  TOM.
Hello  Tom .  
By  the  way,  3  days  last  week  , I  did  Not  collect meteorites ; so
am  I  , therefore  a  non-collector ?  No,  it  all  is  a  matter  of
time.   Where  do  we  draw  the  line ?Time. Information. Thinking.
ETC.
Tom  is  still  a  collector ;  right  now  a  collector  of  information
as  well.  Right  TOM ?
Once  a  meteorite addict ,  always. a . collector.
Happy  Trails,
Fritz


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[meteorite-list] FW: JPL/Caltech Float Set to Launch on Rose Parade Mission

[Greg Redfern]

Hi List,

  If you are interested in the Rose Parade make sure you see the links in
the attached.

All the best,

Greg Redfern
JPL NASA Solar System Ambassador
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ambassador/index.html
International Meteorite Collectors Association #5781
http://www.imca.cc
Member Meteoritical Society
http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/
 
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From: NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:58 PM
To: Greg Redfern
Subject: JPL/Caltech Float Set to Launch on Rose Parade Mission

  

Contact:  Veronica McGregor (818) 354-9452
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
 
Dolores Beasley (202) 358-1753
NASA Headquarters, Washington
 
News Release #2004-298           December 29, 2004
 
JPL/Caltech Float Set to Launch on Rose Parade Mission
 
A towering 50-foot robot from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the
California Institute of Technology (Caltech) will thrill throngs of
parade-goers lining the streets of Pasadena, Calif., on New Year's Day.
 
Resembling a giant transformer toy, the massive float, entitled "Family of
Explorers," honors nine Earth and space exploration missions managed by JPL
for NASA. The robot's arms and legs are adorned with models of each mission.
 
The missions include -- the Cassini probe to Saturn; Stardust comet sample
return mission; Jason oceanography satellite; Genesis solar wind sample
return mission; Galaxy Evolution Explorer ultraviolet space telescope;
Spitzer Space Telescope; Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment to measure
Earth's gravitational field; and the venerable twin Mars Exploration Rovers,
Spirit and Opportunity.
 
The Mars rovers form the robot's "skates" as it rolls down Orange Grove
Avenue, Colorado Boulevard and Sierra Madre Boulevard. The robot will wow
the crowds with special effects ranging from smoke from the robot's
"rockets" to strobe lights and animation. A remote control Web camera inside
the robot's head will provide an unprecedented view of the parade route.
Views from the Web camera will be on the Internet during the parade
at http://www.floatcam.caltech.edu .
 
"This has been an extraordinary year for us, a great year of exploration and
discovery," said JPL Director Dr. Charles Elachi. "Our intent is to
culminate this year and start the next year with another amazing event. We
at JPL pride ourselves on being one big family, so what better way to
celebrate our recent successes than with this Rose Parade float,
highlighting to millions of people around the world our achievements in
exploration on behalf of people everywhere."
 
Hundreds of volunteers from JPL, Caltech, their families and friends, and
some local high school clubs are decorating the float. It is covered from
head to toe with flowers, seeds and other natural materials. Decoration
takes place at Rosemont Pavilion, next to the Rose Bowl. Today and tomorrow
crews are working from 8 a.m. to 11 p.m. (PST), and on December 31, as late
as needed, to complete the float.
 
The float was designed and built by Pasadena-based Phoenix Decorating
Company and its award-winning designer, Raul Rodriguez. A joint JPL/Caltech
float committee solicited design concepts from the JPL community earlier
this year and then worked with the builder to select the final concept.
Construction began in June. Caltech is funding the float. Caltech manages
JPL for NASA.
 
Video and images supporting this story are on NASA TV's Video File (news
feed). Information about NASA TV and link to the Video File is available at:
http://www.nasa.gov/ntv .
 

    -end-
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


 

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[meteorite-list] HELLO LIST---TEST

[Greg Redfern]

Several of my emails recently have not gotten through that I know of.

  I just wanted to wish everyone a Happy New Year. It has been a great year
for NASA (and us as users of the bounty of returned data) and there will be
more to come in 2005.

  Tom P., Jim Strope, Bernd, Greg & Adam, Mike F. Anne, peanut, Tracy, and
all the rest of you, thanks for contributing and helping to make the List
the great (usually ;) ) resource it is.

All the best for you & yours in 2005.

Greg Redfern
JPL NASA Solar System Ambassador
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ambassador/index.html
International Meteorite Collectors Association #5781
http://www.imca.cc
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[meteorite-list] AD-Clearance Sale Ending!!!

[Matt Morgan]

My annual meteorite clearance sale ends on the 31st. I've sold several
thousand in meteorites already, so if if you want something, MAKE AN
OFFER!! Don't bother with Ebay! My deals are better. Plus FREE SHIPPING
in the U.S.

See my site below.

<><><><><>
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
eBay user id: mhmeteorites


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[meteorite-list] Ad collection up on eBay

[star-bits]

I recently bought a colection and have put it on eBay.  Some great pieces 
including 

vigarano  the V in CV
Mighei  the M in CM
Ornansthe O in CO
Renazzo  the R in CR
Karoonda  the K in CK

As well as super pieces of 
Bjurbole
Cold Bokkeveld
DAG 023
Esquel
Lance
murchison
millbillillie
tres castillos
a number of tektites including a perfece australite button
and a host of others 
they can be seen at the following URL



Many started at a penny and no reserves.

--
Eric Olson
ELKK Meteorites
http://www.star-bits.com



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[meteorite-list] bow wow

[David Freeman]

Dear List;
I have a 62 gram oriented NWA closing in a pinch over two hours..hot, hot!
Thanks go John Gwilliam, and Maria Haas for the recent good wishes!
Very best,
Dave F.
ebay user I D/ auction searchword "mjwy"
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[meteorite-list] wow

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!]

Hi list.I just got my 17 gram individual of CHIANG KHAN and 8.6 gram slice
of GUJBA.What beautiful meteorites.I have to thank the respected meteorite
dealers for making these available to me.I also have my meteorite sale on
going till 1-02-2005.2 for 1 make me an offer.Let me know.

  steve

=
Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 
Illinois Meteorites 
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
 
 









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[meteorite-list] UNM Identifies Meteorite Found in Africa As Youngest Lunar Rock Yet (NWA 773)

[Ron Baalke]

http://kobtv.com/index.cfm?viewer=storyviewer&id=15960

UNM identifies meteorite found in Africa as youngest lunar rock yet
Associated Press
December 29, 2004

ALBUQUERQUE (AP) - University of New Mexico researchers have identified
a 2.9 billion-year-old lunar meteorite, which is now the youngest dated
lunar rock.

UNM's sample was obtained from the Natural History Museum in London.
It's named Northwest Africa 773, or NWA 773, to describe where it was
found in 2000.

Lars Borg, a senior research scientist in the earth and planetary
sciences department, said the team uses geochronology to date lunar and
Martian meteorites.

To study NWA 773, they washed and crushed part of the sample to help
remove impurities and contaminants from the African desert.

The team's work confirmed it's the youngest crystallization age from
previously dated lunar samples by about 250 million years.

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Re: [meteorite-list] UPDATE-NWA 2624 Ureilite

[bernd . pauli]

Greg kindly and promptly wrote:

> if it matches the type sample and that large olivine crystals are present 
> in the stone then it may be a Polymict Ureilite, with maybe only 6 known
> ones (Bernd?).

Bernd has not yet updated Meteoritical Bulletin 87 completely :-( ... so
he can only confirm four polymict ureilites: DaG 165, DaG 319, DaG 976,
DaG 1023.

But Bernd can confirm that he has a DaG 319 thin section, a small DaG 976
part slice, and (will soon have) two slices of the NWA 2624 "whatsoever".


Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] UPDATE-NWA 2624 Ureilite

[Greg Hupe]

Dear list,
After talking further with the scientist involved with the classification of 
NWA 2624 and sending more photos of the exterior crust and a scanned image 
of a slice without the larger crystals, he said it looks the same but wants 
me to send him a sample that has the larger crystals to give its true 
classification. At this point, he states that it is "most likely" the same 
as the sample he classified, only it could be better. He further states that 
if it matches the type sample and that large olivine crystals are present in 
the stone than it may be a Polymict Ureilite, with maybe only 6 known ones 
(Bernd?). This will be good for those who have already bid and won some of 
these. In this case, you will have an even rarer ureilite than what was 
thought at first and I will honor the bid amount you won with.

What I would like to do is hold off on shipping the specimens that were 
already won until I hear back with the updated classification after they 
receive a second type specimen with the larger crystals.

For those who have already won and/or paid for the specimens, please email 
me off list to let me know what you prefer to do.

Again, I apologize for the panic on this, but at least it looks like a 
mix-up did NOT occur. The worst that may have happened was that it was 
under-classified instead of the other way around.

Now I shall try to catch up to my dinner arrangements, good thing there are 
several friends there so I don't stand out too much as being super late!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
naturesvault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMCA 2185
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Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector THE NON COLLECTORS POLL

[Mark Bowling]

Hi List,

I flit from hobby to hobby like a happy little bee, so it's hard to nail
down where my money and time go.  I'd have to say:

MONEY
1. taxes
2. gas/food
3. meteorites & related things (mostly eBay)
4. savings/retirement
5. mining/geology books (mostly eBay)
6. charity (church, etc.)

TIME
1. sleep
2. work (work at a family business is never done)
3. eBay/email (85% meteorites...)
4. family/friends/church
5. household projects
6. prospecting (meteorites/minerals)
7. various other hobbies/ideas etc.

I probably spend too much time surfing eBay meteorites and related things,
but I'm unmarried and don't have any of the traditional time/money
obligations.  But maybe if I cut back a bit I'd be married with kids...  In
fact, I have cut back quite a bit and try to spend more time focusing on
"hands on" projects (mostly meteorite related) and prospecting for various
things (primarily working on meteorites right now...).  This is an
interesting topic as I notice I should probably move some priorities
around - maybe time for some New Year Resolutions...  BUT I think meteorites
will stay near the top of the list.  I've been interested since I was a kid
and first visited Meteor Crater, but I took the plunge a few years back and
bought my first SA (a nice shrapnel and a nice oriented one).  It's like
gold fever - one bite from the bug and you have it for life...

Clear skies to all and thanks for listening to my ramblings...

Mark
Vail, AZ




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From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Anita Westlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Tom AKA James Knudson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector THE NON COLLECTORS POLL


> Dear Tom, all,
>
> Let me see, my financial priorities are:
> 1. bills
> 2. wine, women, and song (not really)
> 3. gasoline to run around
> 4. ROCKS
>   a. rare unusual rocks
>   b. meteorites
>   c. stromatolites
>   d. jade
>   e. petrified wood
> 5. RETIREMENT FROM ROCKS
>
> Sorry, my list only has five itemsRealize that this is where my
> MONEY goes, now my time goes in a whole different direction...
> 1/3 time... volunteerism
>   a. community/civic  local programs
>1.K/B WAG water advisory group 1.5 million acres of watershed SW
> Wyoming
>2. Sweetwater Emergency Management Volunteer
>3. Chamber of Commerce team participant/ high desert interpretive
> center
>4. Friend of the library
>5.  Red Desert Rodeo/Sweetwater Co. fair volunteer
>
>   b. rock hounds
>1. free lectures and displays quarterly/semi annually at local
> museums/libraries
>2. free referral service for information
>3. free field trips to local areas annually
>
>   c. dance friends
>1. seasonal dance lessons
>2. impromptu dance lessons
>3. promote Octoberfest and New Years Dance parties provided by
> the senior citizens group
> 1/3 time
>a. sleep
> 1/3 time WORK
>   a. work to support the whole structured system.
>  1. rocks to sell on eBay
>  2. local rock sales/ supply to local venues
>  3. gun show  quarterly shows
>  4. custom trips to deliver/aquire rocks
>
> WHERE DOES YOUR TIME AND MONEY GO?
>
> Best,
> Dave F.
>
>
>
>
> Anti Westlake wrote:
>
> >Opps! "Hobbies are secondary..."? I'd better get my priorities in order.
> >Here's my current order:
> >
> >1. Meteorites
> >2. Meteorites
> >3. Meteorites
> >4. Magazines about Meteorites
> >5. Books about Meteorties
> >6. Calcite
> >7. Feldspar
> >8. Fossils
> >9. Food
> >10.Sleep
> >
> >But then again, I don't have any children or significant others to worry
> >about.
> >
> >Anita
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
JKGwilliam
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:28 AM
> >To: Tom AKA James Knudson; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector
> >
> >Tom,
> >I think if you took a poll of the list, you'd find that many of us have
had
> >to refrain from purchasing meteorites for our collections at times; very
> >few people have the resources to buy all of the items they want for
> >collections or hobbies. After all, hobbies are a secondary part of life
> >that we can allocate money to after we take care of the necessities of
> >raising children and paying our normal day to day expenses.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >John Gwilliam
> >
> >At 08:54 PM 12/28/2004, Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
> >
> >>Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector,
it
> >>does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do
not
> >>know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
> >>meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect
them,
> >>for now. : )
> >>
> >>Thanks, Tom
> >>"the non collector"
> >>peregrineflier <><
> >>IMCA 6168
> >>http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.ht

Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[Mark Bowling]

I'd like to second that - stick around Tom.  I enjoy your input and your
posts help stimulate ideas/questions, etc. in myself.  I'm sure you get a
lot out of the list too.

Clear skies to all!

Mark Bowling
Vail, AZ

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From: "Jim Strope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector


> Stick around Tom!  Just because you are not actively adding to your
> collection doesn't mean you have lost your love for meteorites.  Spending
> money has nothing to do with the contribution one makes to the list or
> knowledge and enjoyment gained.
>
> I would much rather see this list populated by people who love meteorites
> and don't spend money than I would by people who spend money and trash
other
> list members.
>
> Hopefully the New Year will bring happiness to all..
>
> Jim Strope
> 421 Fourth Street
> Glen Dale, WV  26038
>
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:54 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] The non collector
>
>
> > Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector,
it
> > does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do
> > not
> > know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
> > meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect
them,
> > for now. : )
> >
> > Thanks, Tom
> > "the non collector"
> > peregrineflier <><
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[meteorite-list] Contest Preview and Information/Website updated/small ad

[Peanut ..]

Hello everyone!

Well, Break out those pictures and Fire up the cameras, next months contest 
starts in 3 days and we're going to do a photo contest!

January's Contest will END on January 29, 2005 to allow time to switch to 
February's contest prior to the Tucson Show! Apparently they are throwing 
some little Rock & Mineral event in the middle of the Arizona desert???

Last minute entries for this months drawing are still being taken.Don't 
forget to send in your entries!

My website has been completely updated for those of you who haven't stopped 
by yet. Also, in the process of presenting the pictures of the items in a 
more user friendly way. See example at the Campos Sales, NWA 1792, Gaines 
County and Richardton Links!

A few new micros have been added with more on the way. New Grab Bag 
Meteorites! Stop by and purchase a micro. Don't collect micros? Get one for 
the kid next door!

Thanks and Be Well,

Cj Lebel
IMCA# 3432
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www.cjsmeteorites.com 
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[meteorite-list] NWA 2624 Pallasite-Like Ureilite

[Greg Hupe]

Dear list members,
In order to answer a question asked on the list about the makeup of NWA 
2624, Ureilite, I sent the question and photos of the slice to the lead 
scientist who classified this stone. He said the slice does not match the 
sample he classified. I do not know what happened here as I am VERY careful 
with keeping type sample, numbers, etc. with the proper stones I submit. He 
said for me to "not sell any and to send a secondary type sample in that has 
the larger olivines." After hearing this, I cancelled all remaining NWA 2624 
auctions and, out of complete fairness to those who have purchased some,  I 
prefer not to ship these out and would also prefer to refund your payments. 
If the stone comes back as a "not as rare" of a meteorite, I would like the 
opportunity to offer it at a lower price. If it turns out to be something 
better, then we will see how it goes.

I have seen at times where a type sample gets mixed up in the different labs 
the type sample goes through and then caught before hitting the market. I 
hope this is just a case of the slice I showed has the large crystals and 
the scientists wants to "make sure" the type sample sent in is indeed the 
same or an error has occured. He sent me a scanned image of the unpolished 
type sample and it looks the same as a sample without the larger olivines.

I apologize for theis and be rest assured, I will take care of this quickly 
and be fair to those who have purchased some of this already. To those who 
have already bid and won some of this, please email me "off list" with your 
thoughts.

I now have to explain why I am an hour late for a dinner reservation. 
Figures, the one time during the year I make dinner plans and something 
comes up.

Best regards, I will keep everyone updated as I get the news,
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
naturesvault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] Ad - NEA001 (provisional) Lunaite Auctions Ending

[Adam Hupe]

Dear List,

Just a quick note to let you know that six pieces are left of this very
beautiful Lunar Meteorite.  It is very similar to Calcalong Creek and at a
fraction of the costs of most Lunar meteorites.  These are the largest
pieces that I have available.  Even though they have not been polished they
display handsomely.  Several trade offers came in now that it has been
formally classified but want to make these pieces available to collectors
first.  Ebay has a finance option if you find that your accounts are running
low after Christmas like many of us.

To see these gorgeous examples click on this link:
http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=raremeteorites

Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck,


Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] AD-More NWA 2624 Pallasite-Like Ureilite available

[Greg Hupe]

Dear list members,
Due to the great interest and near sell-out of yesterday's listings of my 
new NWA 2624 "Pallasite-Like" Ureilite, I have finished polishing the 
remainder of the material. There were only 20 pieces left and all are 
available on eBay under seller, naturesvault. They are all listed with "Buy 
it Now". Do not hesitate if you are interested in one of the most beautiful 
Ureilites out there because this is all I have. These are listed at the 
5-Day limit.

Remember, these are super polished on BOTH sides and most are cut very thin 
from 1mm to 2.5mm. If you compare the slice to my fingers in the photo, you 
will see what I am talking about. They have a great weight to size ratio!

Here is a link to the first one from today's listings:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6502342050&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
To see all of the available specimens click on the above link and the click 
on "View Seller's Other Auctions" or simply go to eBay and search for 
seller, naturesvault.

Here are a couple great bargains that are ending in just a couple hours, 
along with several others that are still at just 99 cents:

NEW - NWA 2395 LL4 with cool Xenoliths 13.1 gram Complete Slice (several
listed, starting at just 99 cents, see all listings for other sizes):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6500891172&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
NEW - NWA 2696 Howardite 49 gram Individual (still at a bargain rate):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6500892055&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
Sikhote Alin 19.9 gram Individual with a Natural Hole:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6500890722&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
Best regards and thanks once again,
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
naturesvault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Seeks Treasure in Trash

[Ron Baalke]

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3431430,00.html

Mars rover seeks treasure in trash

Engineers scavenge for ideas in charred debris of heat shield

By Jim Erickson
Rocky Mountain News
December 29, 2004

Sure, pictures of Mars rocks are pretty cool. If you like rocks.

But if you want to get aerospace engineers really excited, show them
photos of the charred, crumpled remains of their own hardware sitting on
the surface of another planet.

That's what NASA's Opportunity rover is doing right now. The six-wheeled
explorer is snapping close-ups of the battered heat shield that carried
Opportunity safely through the Martian atmosphere on landing day, Jan.
24, 2004.

The heat shield was built at Jefferson County's Lockheed Martin Space
Systems, in a partnership with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in
Pasadena, Calif.

"When people saw images of a piece of hardware - something that wasn't a
rock - everyone got real excited," said Ben Thoma, a JPL mechanical
systems engineer who worked on the Mars Exploration Rover mission.

"Everyone is really excited to be able to see a picture of their own
hardware, that they helped design, lying broken up on the surface of
another planet," Thoma said Tuesday.

After nearly a year of exploring the surface of Mars with its twin,
Spirit, the Opportunity rover is now on a multiweek campaign that is
driven by engineering questions rather than scientific ones.

The engineers want to know how well the heat shield performed during the
spacecraft's fiery entry. They hope to glean clues to help them design
more efficient and lighter-weight heat shields for future missions, said
Bill Willcockson, head of the entry systems group at Lockheed Martin
Space Systems.

The company has been making heat shields for NASA interplanetary
spacecraft since the 1970s. But this is the first time that engineers
have been able to inspect their handiwork after the plunge to another
planet.

Opportunity rode to the surface of the Martian plain known as Meridiani
Planum sealed inside a cocoon called an aeroshell. The aeroshell has two
parts: a forward-facing heat shield and a backshell.

The surface of the heat shield is coated with a protective layer
six-tenths of an inch thick. The coating is made from the outer bark of
cork oaks, ground to a powder and mixed in a vat with tiny glass spheres
at Lockheed Martin's Waterton Canyon plant southwest of Denver.

On Jan. 24, the Opportunity rover's aeroshell slammed into the Mars
atmosphere at about 12,000 mph. The heat shield glowed white-hot,
reaching an estimated temperature of 2,600 degrees.

About four miles above the Martian surface, after the aeroshell deployed
its parachute, the heat shield was jettisoned. It hit the ground at
about 170 mph and bounced, spliting into two large chunks and scattering
smaller bits of debris.

The Opportunity rover is now 18 feet from one of the two big chunks,
said Christine Szalai, a JPL flight systems engineer who worked on the
heat shield.

In the days ahead, the rover will pull up alongside the wreckage, extend
its robotic arm, and take close-up pictures of cracks in the heat
shield, she said.

The heat shield's cork-and-glass coating was designed so that its outer
third would char during the aeroshell's fiery entry.

Engineers want to measure the depth of the charred layer on
Opportunity's heat shield to determine if future Martian heat shields
can be built a bit thinner and lighter, Willcockson said.

Taking the heat

The heat shield was built at Jeffco's Lockheed Martin Space Systems and
consists of:

o A surface coated with a protective layer, six-tenths of an inch thick.

o The protective coating is made from the outer bark of cork oaks,
ground to a powder and mixed in a vat with tiny glass spheres.


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[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - December 23-29, 2004

[Ron Baalke]

MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
December 23-29, 2004

The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:

o Meridiani Bedrock (Released 23 December 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/12/23/

o Ascraeus Mons (Released 24 December 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/12/24/

o North Polar Ice (Released 25 December 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/12/25/

o Meridiani Craters (Released 26 December 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/12/26/

o Dunes of Herschel (Released 27 December 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/12/27/

o Hill In Deuteronilus (Released 28 December 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/12/28/

o Northern Plains Crater (Released 29 December 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/12/29/




All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here:

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html

Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been
in Mars orbit since September 1997.   It began its primary
mapping mission on March 8, 1999.  Mars Global Surveyor is the 
first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as 
the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office
of Space Science, Washington, DC.  Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS)
and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC
using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates
the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion
Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global
Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin
Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO.

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[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Visits Heat Shield Impact Site

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/041228heatshield.html

Mars rover Opportunity visits heat shield impact site
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
December 28, 2004

NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity has returned this view of its
discard heat shield, which crashed to the planet's surface during the
craft's descent and landing last January.

[Image]
Credit: NASA/JPL
Download a larger version here

 
The image was taken during the rover's 325th martian day (December 22)
and released by NASA on Tuesday.

The main structure from the successfully used shield is to the far left.
Additional fragments of the heat shield lie in the upper center of the
image. The heat shield's impact mark is visible just above and to the
right of the foreground shadow of Opportunity's camera mast. This view
is a mosaic of three images taken with the rover's navigation camera.

Opportunity has drove well over one mile on the plains of Meridiani
while searching for evidence of past water on the Red Planet.

The rover recently climbed from the stadium-sized crater called
Endurance. Once out, the rover examined some of its own tracks that it
had laid down prior to entering the crater. It compared them
side-by-side with fresh tracks in order to observe any weathering
effects in the intervening 200 martian days. Opportunity then made its
way toward the heat shield, which was located about 200 meters (220
yards) from the edge of Endurance.

Here is the full description of the entry-to-landing procedure for both
Mars Explorations Rovers, according to the NASA pre-landing press kit:

The planned sequence of events for entering the atmosphere, descending
and landing is essentially the same for each of the two rover missions,
though the operation will take several seconds more for Spirit because
its landing target is at a slightly lower elevation than Opportunity's.
On both spacecraft, 15 minutes before atmospheric entry, the protective
aeroshell encasing the lander and rover will separate from the cruise
stage, whose role will at that point be finished. Each cruise stage will
ultimately impact Mars.

Each spacecraft will hit the top of the atmosphere, about 128 kilometers
(80 miles) above Mars' surface, at a flight path angle of about 11.5
degrees and a velocity of about 5.4 kilometers per second (12,000 miles
per hour). Although Mars has a much thinner atmosphere than Earth does,
the friction of traveling through it will heat and slow the spacecraft
dramatically. The surface of the heat shield is expected to reach a
temperature of 1,447 C (2,637 F). By 4 minutes after atmospheric entry,
speed will have decreased to about 430 meters per second (960 miles per
hour). At that point, about 8.5 kilometers (5.3 miles) above the ground,
the spacecraft will deploy its parachute.

Within 2 minutes, the spacecraft will be bouncing on the surface, but
those minutes will be packed with challenging events crucial to the
mission's success.

Twenty seconds after parachute deployment, the spacecraft will jettison
the bottom half of its protective shell, the heat shield, exposing the
lander inside. Ten seconds later, the backshell, still attached to the
parachute, will begin lowering the lander on a tetherlike bridle about
20 meters (66 feet) long. Spooling out the bridle to full length will
take 6 seconds. Almost immediately, a radar system on the lander will
begin sending pulses toward the ground to measure its altitude. Radar
will detect the ground when the craft is about 2.4 kilometers (1.5
miles) above the surface, approximately 35 seconds before landing.

The Mars Exploration Rover design has two new tools, absent on Mars
Pathfinder, to avoid excessive horizontal speed during ground impact in
case of strong winds near the surface. One is a downward-looking camera
mounted on the lander. Once the radar has sensed the surface, this
camera will take three pictures of the ground about 4 seconds apart and
automatically analyze them to estimate the spacecraft's horizontal
velocity. The other innovation is a set of three small transverse
rockets mounted on the backshell that can be fired in any combination to
reduce horizontal velocity or counteract effects of side-to-side
swinging under the parachute and bridle.

Eight seconds before touchdown, gas generators will inflate the lander's
airbags. Two seconds later, the three main deceleration rockets on the
backshell -- and, if needed, one or two of the transverse rockets --
will ignite. After 3 more seconds, when the lander should be about 10 to
15 meters (33 to 49 feet) above ground and have zero vertical velocity,
its bridle will be cut, releasing it from the backshell and parachute.
The airbag-protected lander will then be in free fall for a few seconds
as it drops toward the ground.

The first bounce may take the airbag-protected lander back up to 15
meters (49 feet) or more above the ground. Bouncing and rolling could
last several minutes. By comparison, the ai

Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector THE NON COLLECTORS POLL

[Tom AKA James Knudson]

David asked;
"WHERE DOES YOUR TIME AND MONEY GO? "
Well the day before Christmas I had no money and had done no Christmas
shopping , then,  my mom stopped by and gave me $100  for Christmas, bless
her heart! I ran out and bought my ex and two daughters presents for a total
of $35 and paid my car insurance, water bill and put the rest in my gas
tank.
 That's were my money goes!

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
- Original Message -
From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Anita Westlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'JKGwilliam'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Tom AKA James Knudson'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector THE NON COLLECTORS POLL


> Dear Tom, all,
>
> Let me see, my financial priorities are:
> 1. bills
> 2. wine, women, and song (not really)
> 3. gasoline to run around
> 4. ROCKS
>   a. rare unusual rocks
>   b. meteorites
>   c. stromatolites
>   d. jade
>   e. petrified wood
> 5. RETIREMENT FROM ROCKS
>
> Sorry, my list only has five itemsRealize that this is where my
> MONEY goes, now my time goes in a whole different direction...
> 1/3 time... volunteerism
>   a. community/civic  local programs
>1.K/B WAG water advisory group 1.5 million acres of watershed SW
> Wyoming
>2. Sweetwater Emergency Management Volunteer
>3. Chamber of Commerce team participant/ high desert interpretive
> center
>4. Friend of the library
>5.  Red Desert Rodeo/Sweetwater Co. fair volunteer
>
>   b. rock hounds
>1. free lectures and displays quarterly/semi annually at local
> museums/libraries
>2. free referral service for information
>3. free field trips to local areas annually
>
>   c. dance friends
>1. seasonal dance lessons
>2. impromptu dance lessons
>3. promote Octoberfest and New Years Dance parties provided by
> the senior citizens group
> 1/3 time
>a. sleep
> 1/3 time WORK
>   a. work to support the whole structured system.
>  1. rocks to sell on eBay
>  2. local rock sales/ supply to local venues
>  3. gun show  quarterly shows
>  4. custom trips to deliver/aquire rocks
>
> WHERE DOES YOUR TIME AND MONEY GO?
>
> Best,
> Dave F.
>
>
>
>
> Anti Westlake wrote:
>
> >Opps! "Hobbies are secondary..."? I'd better get my priorities in order.
> >Here's my current order:
> >
> >1. Meteorites
> >2. Meteorites
> >3. Meteorites
> >4. Magazines about Meteorites
> >5. Books about Meteorties
> >6. Calcite
> >7. Feldspar
> >8. Fossils
> >9. Food
> >10.Sleep
> >
> >But then again, I don't have any children or significant others to worry
> >about.
> >
> >Anita
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
JKGwilliam
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:28 AM
> >To: Tom AKA James Knudson; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector
> >
> >Tom,
> >I think if you took a poll of the list, you'd find that many of us have
had
> >to refrain from purchasing meteorites for our collections at times; very
> >few people have the resources to buy all of the items they want for
> >collections or hobbies. After all, hobbies are a secondary part of life
> >that we can allocate money to after we take care of the necessities of
> >raising children and paying our normal day to day expenses.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >John Gwilliam
> >
> >At 08:54 PM 12/28/2004, Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
> >
> >>Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector,
it
> >>does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do
not
> >>know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
> >>meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect
them,
> >>for now. : )
> >>
> >>Thanks, Tom
> >>"the non collector"
> >>peregrineflier <><
> >>IMCA 6168
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Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[Jim Strope]

Stick around Tom!  Just because you are not actively adding to your 
collection doesn't mean you have lost your love for meteorites.  Spending 
money has nothing to do with the contribution one makes to the list or 
knowledge and enjoyment gained.

I would much rather see this list populated by people who love meteorites 
and don't spend money than I would by people who spend money and trash other 
list members.

Hopefully the New Year will bring happiness to all..
Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038
http://www.catchafallingstar.com
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From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:54 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] The non collector


Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector, it
does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do 
not
know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect them,
for now. : )

Thanks, Tom
"the non collector"
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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[meteorite-list] eBay shipping

[Dave Harris]

Hi,
Just a bit of advice wanted...
I have just won a mineral specimen on eBAy - it had a "Buy it now" of $65
but no reserve so I won it for $1.  Now the dealer wants to send it to me
and charge me $25 to ship to the UK - this is a thumbnail sized specimen and
it is quite obvious he is trying to make up his shortfall by overcharging me
on the shipping (which I know can be done for 5 bucks).  He only has a
feedback of 6 so he is a newbie.

I have trawled eBay for a decent email address to write to but I am buggered
if I can find one - any one out here can help?


dave
Sec.BIMS
IMCA #0092



 
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[meteorite-list] NWA 2624 pallasite-like ureilite

[bernd . pauli]

Frank wrote:

> Very cool looking ureilite.

I agree :-)

> Haven't seen a ureilite with large olivine crystals like these.

I disagree :-(

Just look at Mike Farmer's Dhofar 979. It has beautiful, honey-
colored, translucent olivine crystals (see pics at his website)!
After all, ureilites are olivine-pyroxene rocks consisting of up
to 80 vol% olivine.

> I certainly looking forward to seeing my piece in person.

I agree - so do I ;-)

Cheers,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] NWA 2624 pallasite-like ureilite

[fcressy]

Hello Greg and all,

Very cool looking ureilite. Haven't seen a ureilite with large olivine
crystals like these. Are they phenocrysts? How common are these features in
other ureilites? Any ideas how they form?
The large olivine crystals appear to be the chief characteristic of this
ureilite but they don't appear to be mentioned in the description to be
submitted to the Nom Comm. I guess this is an oversite?
At any rate, I certainly looking forward to seeing my piece in person.
Cheers,
Frank


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RE: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[Thomas Randall - KB2SMS]

(In my best "Dr. Smith" voice)

"Oh dear, OH DEAR!" 

You may need help Anita! Without eating and sleeping you can forget
about doing much of anything!

Tom, there are a lot of meteorites I'd like to get but can't as well,
not all of us are well off enough to get everything we want. I certainly
am not. You have your priorities straight, keep them that way. 


For me it's:

1) Eat
2) sleep
3) work
4) Dog
5) Aquarium Fish
6) Houseplants 
7) Meteorites
  
 My hobbies can all be expensive (astronomy, ham radio for example) but
they don't HAVE to be. If you try to "keep up with the Jones'" you will
lose. You can never win. 

Happy new year to all!

Tom Randall


On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 10:35, Anita Westlake wrote:
> Opps! "Hobbies are secondary..."? I'd better get my priorities in order.
> Here's my current order:
> 
> 1. Meteorites
> 2. Meteorites
> 3. Meteorites
> 4. Magazines about Meteorites
> 5. Books about Meteorties
> 6. Calcite
> 7. Feldspar
> 8. Fossils
> 9. Food
> 10.Sleep
> 
> But then again, I don't have any children or significant others to worry
> about.
> 
> Anita 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JKGwilliam
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 10:28 AM
> To: Tom AKA James Knudson; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector
> 
> Tom,
> I think if you took a poll of the list, you'd find that many of us have had 
> to refrain from purchasing meteorites for our collections at times; very 
> few people have the resources to buy all of the items they want for 
> collections or hobbies. After all, hobbies are a secondary part of life 
> that we can allocate money to after we take care of the necessities of 
> raising children and paying our normal day to day expenses.
> 
> Best,
> 
> John Gwilliam
> 
> At 08:54 PM 12/28/2004, Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
> >Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector, it
> >does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do not
> >know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
> >meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect them,
> >for now. : )
> >
> >Thanks, Tom
> >"the non collector"
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Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[almitt]

Hi Anita and all,

Sounds like you have your priorities right on collecting meteorites. Your well
on your way to becoming a serious collector after you can fill in a few more
priorities with meteorite related items ;-)

All my best!

--AL

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Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector THE NON COLLECTORS POLL

[David Freeman]

Dear Tom, all,
Let me see, my financial priorities are:
1. bills
2. wine, women, and song (not really)
3. gasoline to run around
4. ROCKS
 a. rare unusual rocks
 b. meteorites
 c. stromatolites
 d. jade
 e. petrified wood
5. RETIREMENT FROM ROCKS
Sorry, my list only has five itemsRealize that this is where my 
MONEY goes, now my time goes in a whole different direction...
1/3 time... volunteerism
 a. community/civic  local programs
  1.K/B WAG water advisory group 1.5 million acres of watershed SW 
Wyoming
  2. Sweetwater Emergency Management Volunteer
  3. Chamber of Commerce team participant/ high desert interpretive 
center
  4. Friend of the library
  5.  Red Desert Rodeo/Sweetwater Co. fair volunteer

 b. rock hounds
  1. free lectures and displays quarterly/semi annually at local 
museums/libraries
  2. free referral service for information
  3. free field trips to local areas annually

 c. dance friends
  1. seasonal dance lessons
  2. impromptu dance lessons
  3. promote Octoberfest and New Years Dance parties provided by 
the senior citizens group
1/3 time  
  a. sleep
1/3 time WORK
 a. work to support the whole structured system.
1. rocks to sell on eBay
2. local rock sales/ supply to local venues
3. gun show  quarterly shows
4. custom trips to deliver/aquire rocks

WHERE DOES YOUR TIME AND MONEY GO?  

Best,
Dave F.

Anti Westlake wrote:
Opps! "Hobbies are secondary..."? I'd better get my priorities in order.
Here's my current order:
1. Meteorites
2. Meteorites
3. Meteorites
4. Magazines about Meteorites
5. Books about Meteorties
6. Calcite
7. Feldspar
8. Fossils
9. Food
10.Sleep
But then again, I don't have any children or significant others to worry
about.
Anita 

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Tom,
I think if you took a poll of the list, you'd find that many of us have had 
to refrain from purchasing meteorites for our collections at times; very 
few people have the resources to buy all of the items they want for 
collections or hobbies. After all, hobbies are a secondary part of life 
that we can allocate money to after we take care of the necessities of 
raising children and paying our normal day to day expenses.

Best,
John Gwilliam
At 08:54 PM 12/28/2004, Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector, it
does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do not
know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect them,
for now. : )
Thanks, Tom
"the non collector"
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RE: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[harlan trammell]

yea, i'm kinda the same way. i still keep a few around to bust out and look at, but they are good ones. i don't buy that much any more either. and if i do buy one, i let another one go to absorb the shock. infact, i have been letting alot of dupes go just to streamline the collection (i still have some bonita springs, fl MACros available for $20 usd). every once in a while, a good local one comes along though that i just have to buy.
i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To:  >Subject: [meteorite-list] The non collector >Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 20:54:04 -0700 > >Hello List, Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector, it >does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do not >know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of >meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect them, >for now. : ) > >Thanks, Tom >"the non collector" >peregrineflier <>< >IMCA 6168 >http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites and tsunamis

[harlan trammell]

very good- you'd think that a 100yard object would pretty much obliterate the water AND the bottom- making an actual dry spot to be filled by inflowing water a few seconds later similar to shooting a 1" deep puddle with a 30-.06 deer rifle. as far as rhe run-up goes, i think it would have a lot to do w/ the bottom-if there was a cliff w/1,000' of water under it, i might be little more that a sloshing rise in sea level. the same wave hitting a reef where the depths went form 1,000' to 4' in 100 yards, would probably form a giant, beaking,  barreled, wave similar to the one shown on video by cnn. the same wave to hit coastal ga. where it is only 600' deep 100miles out may be more like a giant river simply overflowing its banks, with lots of forward motion to miles of water behind the wave front. bottom structure has a lot to do w/ it.
i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >CC: harlan trammell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Marco Langbroek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Herbert Raab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites and tsunamis >Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 20:50:01 -0600 > >Hi, > > The very large U. of Arizona Press collection >"Hazards Due To Comets and Asteroids" (1994) has in it a >paper "Tsunami Generated by Small Asteroid Impacts" by >Hills, Nemchinov, Popov, and Teterev. The classic >"Effects of Nuclear Weapons" by Glasstone and Dolan is >good too (it has a chapter on tsunamis). > The figure of a 100 
meter stone (or 40 meter iron) >given by Herbert is a significant one. Smaller objects >than these are likely to be slowed down considerably >coming through the atmosphere (or break up altogether) >with a serious loss of energy, but a 100 meter stone or >40 meter iron will reach the ground pretty much at its >celestrial velocity. > When you talk about a tidal wave's height, there are >two "heights." First, there's the height of the >undisturbed free-travelling ocean wave, and second, the >"runup height" which is the height the wave achieves >when it runs up on the land and is forced higher and >higher. Usually the runup height is 10 or more times >higher than the ocean wave, depending on the >characteristics of the shore and its shallows. > In Sri Lanka a thousand kilometers or more from the >epicenter, reports are of a 15 to 30 foot runup 
height. >In Sumatra, the runup height must have been much >greater, but there are few witness reports because >anybody close enough to get a really good look died. > Reading through these two sources, I get the >impression that the recent tidal wave was somewhat >smaller than that that would have been produced by a 100 >meter stone hitting the ocean at the same spot. In >evaluating that statement you should know that I think >the recent disaster was much worse than we realize even >now. > There is a phenomenon of big disasters, that they so >devastate certain areas that no word gets out at all and >the full scale of the disaster is not appreciated. For >example, on Sunday morning the deaths were given as >14,000 and today (Tuesday) the figure given is 52,000. I >would not be surprised if the actual death toll when it >is fully known were 
closer to 175,000 +/- 60,000. > In Banda Atche (capital of the Sumatran province >nearest the epicenter), a London Financial Times >reporter interviewed survivors in neighborhoods where >there were survivors and was told by the residents that >the death toll was 80% of their neighborhoods. Banda >Atche is a city of 100,000 people, so it's quite likely >that there were 52,000 or more deaths in just that one >city. > A town of 10,000 people ten miles down the coast >from Banda Atche has not yet even been reached by >anybody from the outside, but flyovers have not spotted >any living moving human beings there. Counted deaths in >Sri Lanka are officially up to 22,000 and those figures >do contain any reports from the rebel-controlled north >of the island. And none of the counted death totals >includes the large numbers of people that must have 
died >when they were swept out to sea. But there are reports >of very large numbers of corpses washing up on the Thai >and Malaysian west coasts. > At any rate, even this considerable catastrophe is >less than what the smallest asteroid (100 meter) that >could make it through the atmosphere full-tilt would >produce. A 400 meter object like 2004 MN4 striking the >ocean at 20 km/s would produce a tsunami about 100 times >bigger than the recent one. It would achieve runup >heights of about 200 feet even 1000-2000 kilometers >away. > So it's a really good thing that 2004 MN4 is going >to miss us in 2029. Thanks to those "pre-discovery" >plates, Herbert can get his sleep, none of us have to >start building arks or move to mountain tops! > > >Sterling K. Webb >- > >harlan 
trammell 

RE: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[Anita Westlake]

Opps! "Hobbies are secondary..."? I'd better get my priorities in order.
Here's my current order:

1. Meteorites
2. Meteorites
3. Meteorites
4. Magazines about Meteorites
5. Books about Meteorties
6. Calcite
7. Feldspar
8. Fossils
9. Food
10.Sleep

But then again, I don't have any children or significant others to worry
about.

Anita 


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Tom,
I think if you took a poll of the list, you'd find that many of us have had 
to refrain from purchasing meteorites for our collections at times; very 
few people have the resources to buy all of the items they want for 
collections or hobbies. After all, hobbies are a secondary part of life 
that we can allocate money to after we take care of the necessities of 
raising children and paying our normal day to day expenses.

Best,

John Gwilliam

At 08:54 PM 12/28/2004, Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
>Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector, it
>does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do not
>know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
>meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect them,
>for now. : )
>
>Thanks, Tom
>"the non collector"
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[JKGwilliam]

Tom,
I think if you took a poll of the list, you'd find that many of us have had 
to refrain from purchasing meteorites for our collections at times; very 
few people have the resources to buy all of the items they want for 
collections or hobbies. After all, hobbies are a secondary part of life 
that we can allocate money to after we take care of the necessities of 
raising children and paying our normal day to day expenses.

Best,
John Gwilliam
At 08:54 PM 12/28/2004, Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector, it
does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do not
know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect them,
for now. : )
Thanks, Tom
"the non collector"
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RE: [meteorite-list] As a matter of fact, I done!

[Charles Viau]

How does one 'give up' being a meteorite collector?  You can lay off a few
months or years, however the reason you collected them in the first place is
because you like holding something that was as old as old get's - as far as
we know... The point is, You never stop being a meteorite collector. And
that is the way it is.  God Speed.

CharlyV

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Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
> Hello list, I am so tired of trying to be a meteorite collector, that  I
am
> going to give up on it for a while, way to depressing!   I'll be back when
> things are looking up! Love ya all!

As Cicero said: "Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the 
parent of all others." Happiness and success depends on the person 
making the best of things and enjoying life to the greatest extent possible.

Clear skies,

Jonathan
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[meteorite-list] NPA 09-14-1995 Evidence Points To Meteor Forming Chesapeake Bay, C. Wylie Poag

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: The Capital
City: Annapolis, Maryland
Date: Thursday, September 14, 1995
Page: A4
Evidence points to meteor forming Chesapeake Bay
WASHINGTON (AP) - Thirty five million years ago, a meteor crashed into 
the Earth burned plants and animals and caused a giant wave, forming the 
Chesapeake Bay according in a theory by some scientists.
Scientists this week presented new evidence that age of the worst 
natural disasters contributed to the formation of the Chesapeake.
For several years scientists have been gathering evidence that a 
55-mile wide meteor crater underlies the lower Chesapeake Bay and sea floor 
nearby.
C. Wylie Poag of the US Geological Survey, is leading studies of the 
Chesapeake crater and possible craters of the same age of the New Jersey 
coast and Siberia. Scientists believe the craters could all be from chunks 
of the same meteor.
Whatever hit the Chesapeake was at least a mile in diameter and hurtled 
through space at up to 45 miles per second before bashing into the Earth, 
according to scientists.
What it hit, it almost certainly vaporized, melting part of the Earth's 
crust, sending hot jets of gas and molten rock miles into the upper 
atmosphere.
"If it happened today, Washington would probably cease to exist," said 
Christian Koeberl, one of the group of scientists who presented the new 
evidence Monday at a conference at the Smithsonian Institution.
Scientists believe the resulting explosion would have incinerated 
planets and animals living near shore before a massive wave, or tsunami, 
caused by the explosion, hit the coast.
"Instant barbecue." Mr. Koeberl, a geochemist at the University of 
Vienna, told The Washington Post.
Mr. Poag has mapped the crater which in centered on Cape Charles, Va. 
near the lower tip of the Delmarva Peninsula and extends offshore.
The zone in which rock was affected by the impact may extend as far as 
Washington and Richard, Va.
 Mr. Koeberl demonstrated rocks near the crater show deformations that 
happen when shock waves traveling through rock are powerful enough to alter 
its crystal structure.
No force in the normal course of the Earth's history to produce such 
changes, he said.
The rocks are therefore considered conclusive evidence of a meteor's 
impact.
Scientists don't believe the meteor was solely responsible for the 
Chesapeake's formation.
"I think the impact did serve as a template for later development of 
the bay," Mr. Poag said. "But it's indirect."
The Susquehanna, Rappahannock, Potomac, York and James rivers developed 
after the meteor hit and eventually converged toward a single spot along the 
road.
Mr. Poag speculates the low ground caused by the meteor crater drew the 
rivers toward that spot.
When at the end of the last ice age the ocean began rising, it flooded 
back into the rivers' valleys, drowning their mouths and creating the 
Chesapeake, scientists said.

(end)
Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
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[meteorite-list] NPA 04-26-1966 Thousands See Falling Meteor

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: Syracuse Herald Journal
City: Syracuse, New York
Date: Tuesday, April 26, 1966
Page: 1, continued on 9
Thousands see falling meteor
By ROBERT R HAGGART
Thousands of people last night saw one of the wonders of the universe - 
a meteor burning up in a brilliant ball of fire in the sky, at first light 
green and then finally fading to orange and red.
Scientists and astronomers across the country contacted by the 
Herald-Journal agreed that what people from Ohio to Boston and Canada to 
North Carolina saw was a single, relatively large meteor burning up in the 
earth's atmosphere.
They said it was not in any way related to another wonder of the 
universe that thousands of people saw at about the same time last Friday 
night.
That, they said, was a meteor shower.
And they predicted to the Herald-Journal that there will be another 
meteor shower May 5, a week from Thursday.
One of the leading astronomers in the nation on the subject of meteors 
is Dr. Fred L. Whipple, director of the Smithsonian Astrophysical 
Observatory in Cambridge, Mass.
"What people saw last Friday," he said, "was a meteor shower, a common 
and predictable occurrence."
This particular shower, he said is called the Lyrid Meteor Shower, 
because it can be seen in the eastern sky at sunset and comes from the 
general direction of the Constellation Lyra.
"A long time ago," said Dr. Whipple, "in prehistoric times, a large 
meteor broke up in the universe.
"This mass of tiny particles continues to circle around the sun, as the 
earth does.
"At a predictable time every year," he said, "the plane of the earth, 
the path of the earth around the sun, passes through this debris."
What people saw last night was something else again, he said.
"It was a bright fireball that came from God knows where," said Dr. 
Whipple, "a hunk of material that was drawn into the earth's atmosphere by 
chance."
The two events were unrelated, he said, despite the fact that both 
happened at about 7:15 p.m., because they were in different locations in the 
sky and going in different directions.
Last night's meteor, noted Dr. Anthony Aveni, assistant professor of 
astronomy at Colgate University, had a very flat trajectory, while the 
meteor shower of last Friday had a sharper angle to the earth.
Both Dr. Whipple and Dr. Aveni said the events had nothing to do with 
comets.
The tial of Haley's Comet last passed across the earth in 1910, said 
Dr. Aveni, and is not due again until 1987, said Dr. Whipple.
Dr. Whipple said scientists working under him are conducting an 
investigation to see if any pieces of the meteor actually landed on earth.
A report by a William A. Carr of Plattsburgh, leads the astronomer to 
believe it might have landed somewhere north of Albany.
This, he said, is because Carr reportedly heard an explosion just 
before the meteor went out of sight. "It might be something like a sonic 
boom," he said.
Dr. Curtis Hemenway, director of the Dudley Observatory in Albany, said 
information indicated the object landed near the Canadian border in an area 
southwest of Montreal and northwest of Plattsburg.
Hemenway said the sonic book was also heard over Albany, three ot five 
minutes after the object was sighted. The boom, he said, was apparently 
caused by the meteor entering the earth's atmosphere at supersonic speeds, 
approaching 40 miles a second.
Dr. Hemenway said he was checking out reports of what sounded like 
rainfall in the area of Luzerne, north of Saratoga Springs - particles 
dropping or torn off the meteor as it entered the earth's atmosphere.
Another prominent astronomer, Dr. Thomas Nicholson, chairman of the 
Hayden Planetarium in New York City, said it was possible that parts of the 
meteor landed on earth before burning up.
He agreed that last night's event was a single meteor, compared with 
predictable meteor showers such as happened last Friday.
He noted the following showers expected to hit earth this year:
May, Aquarid Shower; end of July, Delta Aquid; August, Persids Shower; 
late October, Orionid Shower; early November, Taurids Shower; and one of the 
most famous in the middle of November, the Leonids Shower.
Police, weather bureau and aviation agencies were deluged with reports 
that varied in description and interpretation which ranged from a glowing 
spaceship to a plane on fire.
Hundreds of calls jammed Herald-Journal telephone switchboards between 
8:15 and 9:30 p.m. last night as people attempted to get information about 
the meteor.
"It was just gorgeous," said one caller, "A huge sparkler moving across 
the sky."
 At times both of this newspaper’s switchboards were completely 
lighted. The calls jammed all lines. Ad it was the same at the police 
department, sheriff’s office, Hancock field, and State Police offices.
   The reactions ranged from fear to amazement, from curiosity to 
speculation.

Vapor

[meteorite-list] NPA 11-29-1941 Great Meteor (Crater) Is Challenge To Geophysits

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: Reno Evening Gazette
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Saturday, November 29, 1941
Page: 6
Great Meteor Is Challenge To Geophysists
That great meteor that lies buried some twenty-three miles west of 
Winslow, Ariz., is a challenge to Geophysics. That meteor is said to have 
buried itself deep into the earth, making a crater three miles in 
circumference. About $1,000,000 has been spent of drilling and mining 
operations, endeavoring to locate the "sky wonderer." Mining operations have 
been carried on to recover the mineral it contains. Excavation work has for 
its goal a possible $500,000,000 deposit of valuable metals. The meteor fell 
more than two thousand years ago and left a hole in the ground 4200 feet in 
diameter. The crater now is six hundred feet deep and the main deposit of 
meteorite material is believed to live seven hundred feet below the crater 
floor, the Mining Record says.
This crater has the appearance of having been made by a body at least 
ten million tons. Fragments of meteoric iron have been found which are 
reported a assaying ninety per cent iron and seven per cent nickel. A shaft 
was sunk to a depth of sixteen hundred feet, but the main body of the 
meteorite has not been encountered.
The problem of locating this immense body of iron and nickel would seem 
to be made to order for quick solution with one of the numerous geophysical 
instruments that have solved problems of hidden ore all over the world. When 
that meteor hit Mother Earth, it was probably at an angle, with the result 
that the meteor is embedded in the ground some distance from the crater it 
made. Our scientists should be able to give approximate figures as to the 
momentum with which the meteor hit the earth and to what depth the meteor 
would become imbedded in the character of the ground encountered, if it did 
not burst into fragments. Part of it did, no doubt, because these fragments 
can be found widely scattered near the crater. But, the crater is evidence 
that the main meteor drove itself into the ground. If the mass is 
nickel-iron, as shown by the fragments, it should be readily located with 
the scientific instruments now available.
A student of this subject has ventured the assertion that if the great 
metallic mass is not too deep in the earth, he could locate its position 
vertically by driving an auto equipped with a radio over the country; that 
the strength of the radio wave and loss of volume over the metallic mass 
might indicate its position. Evidently, the geophysical reports that have 
been made in the past on the Arizona meteorite have proved of little value. 
The scientists should not let the Arizona meteorite problem remain unsolved.

(end)
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[meteorite-list] NPA 12-24-1941 Colorado Men Strike Meteor (Wrong?), Nininger

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: Reno Evening Gazette
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Wednesday, December 24, 1941
Page: 18
Colorado Men Strike Meteor
   A magnetometer operated by Harry Aurand, Denver geologist is reported to 
have located the large meteorite that is being investigated by Dr. H.H. 
Nininger, Denver expert in this line of research. This meteorite came to 
earth in the San Luis valley of Colorado. The magnetometer indicated the 
position of the meteor at a depth of eighty feet, the Mining Record reports.
A water well drill struck the meteorite but the metal could not be 
penetrated. A more powerful drill was used and a few small pieces were 
brought to the surface with a magnet. These samples are said to show nickel. 
It is probable that a shaft will be sunk and torches used to split up the 
meteor. Nininger says the meteor will in his opinion weigh millions of tons.
The big meteorite formed a crater near the foot of Crestone Peak, on 
Baca Grant, south of the town of Crestone.
The next step in the study will be to take a diamond drill from Denver 
and attack the meteorite with this. An electromagnet will be used to bring 
fragments to the surface for examination. If this final proof is found, Dr. 
Nininger plans to direct tunneling operations from outside the west rim of 
the crater to recover the big cosmic body. The actual excavation will not be 
attempted until next spring, it was indicated, as winter is making 
operations more difficult at the crater.

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The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. I have been doing 
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[meteorite-list] NPA 09-27-1934 Meteor Bursts Near Airplane On Coast Trip

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: Reno Evening Gazette
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Thursday, September 27, 1934
Page: 12
Meteor Bursts Near Airplane On Coast Trip
Several Nevada passengers, riding a United Airlines plane received one 
of those "once in a life time thrills" early this morning when a blazing 
meteor burst seemingly within a few hundred yards of the airliner, Co-Pilot 
Archie Anderson of the early morning transcontinental plane reported on his 
arrival in Oakland.
Anderson said he was at the controls in the sky over Fairfield, Solano 
county, when he saw the meteor. Instinctively, he swerved the plane, then he 
realized he couldn't expect to dodge anything coming so fast. At that moment 
the meteor exploded.
"I looked around suddenly when Anderson swerved the ship," said Pilot 
Jack O'Brien, "just in time to see the final flash of the meteor, Boy, it 
was close. That fireball seemed right in front of the propellers."
Passengers cried out, and LaVon Mase, a truck driver who saw the meteor 
and heard the roar of the plane's motors, telephoned Oakland police an 
airplane had fallen in flames.
Aboard the ship were William Scott of Chicago; Mr. and Mrs. A. Biehl of 
Chicago; John P. Hunter of Chicago; Dorothy Taylor of Elko, Nev.; J. 
McManana of Elko; W.P. Dressler of Reno, and W.F. Drisch of Reno, 
passengers; the two pilots, and Miss Lucille Gillett, stewardess.

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[meteorite-list] NPA 02-22-1934 Meteor Crushes Spanish Home, Fire Follows Crash

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: Reno Evening Gazette
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Thursday, February 22, 1934
Page: 1, continued on page 3
METEOR CRUSHES SPANISH HOME; FIRE FOLLOWS CRASH
Dense Column of Smoke Drops from Sky Into Building Is Claim
History Records Only Few Such Instances, Science Writer Asserts
SEVILLE, Spain, Feb. 22. - (AP) - Francisco Megia told today his own 
story of the destruction of his home by what he and all his neighbors at the 
village of Rinconada believe to have been a meteor's fall.
HEARD ROAR
Senor Megia and his family sat down in their home for lunch between 
noon and 1 p.m. Sunday.
Suddenly there was the noise as of an airplane flying low over the 
cottage.
Jose Megia, thirteen years old, rushed to the door. He saw a dense 
column of smoke dropping from the sky toward the roof.
Panic-stricken, he shouted his alarm.
Sensor Megia tried to run to the door but a powerful column of air and 
smoke knocked him down. Megia and his family said they smelled a heavy odor 
of sulphur and burned coal.
SAVE MATTRESS
The whole family rushed outdoors, carry only the mattress from a bed.
As they attempted to return to the house for more belongings, they were 
stopped by a short, deafening noise and their cottage was immediately 
enveloped in flames.
Farmers in the neighborhood head the noise and hastened to the aid of 
the family.

(end)
By HOWARD W. BLAKESLEE
Associated Press Science Editor
NEW YORK, Feb. 22 - (AP) - In all historical time only eight or ten 
meteors have been authentically established as striking buildings, and none 
of those destroyed the structure.
But the chances for a meteor striking a house are probably greater than 
this low average shows because the world in general has not recognized the 
existence of meteors as such until very recent centuries.
NOT FOR JEFFERSON
Even as late as Thomas Jefferson their existence was disbelieved and H. 
H. Nininger of Denver, one of the foremost meteor experts, tell as a 
historical fact that Jefferson as president, when told that a shower of 
stones had fallen at Weston, Conn., said:
"I would rather believe that those two Yankee professors would like 
than that stones fell from heaven."
The 'two professors; were Yale men, who had verified the Weston 
meteors, which now are historically accepted.
The Biblical account of Joshua raining stones on the enemies of the 
Israelites is often taking as describing a fall of meteors. Stones would be 
a literal description, for they are only two kinds of meteors so far known. 
One is made of stone, the other of iron, or nickel-iron.
Counting meteors which were actually picked up off the ground after 
their fall had been seen, Mr. Nininger found a record all over the world of 
130,000 individual pieces in 125 years up to 1925. These came from only 470 
falls, showing that most of them fall in showers.
These showers, particularly of the stony meteors, are fairly 
commonplace. Usually the stones are small.
Figuring on these and all the other available authenticated meteors Mr. 
Nininger estimates that in the United States there should regularly pass 
several generations without a death from being hit by a meteor.
NO HUMANS KILLED
Verified records, however, do not tell of a single human death. The 
closest call is attributed to a man in Mhow, India, who was injured by a 
meteor on February 16, 1827.
The meteors which have struck buildings were of moderate size, but big 
enough to penetrate the roofs. There is no definite proof of one having 
started a fire in a building, as the stones are usually nearly cool by the 
time they reach the earth’s surface. Explosions of meteors are fairly 
common. These bursts seem to occur at low altitudes, before the meteor 
reaches the earth. There has been considerable doubt at to what might cause 
them.
The Seville reports indicate that the Rniconada meteor exploded within 
the house.
The only destructive meteor of modern time fell in Siberia on June 30, 
1906. It fell in a forest, with such damage that there is reason to believe 
it could have destroyed a small town, and perhaps inflicted an unbelievable 
holocaust on a large city.
The hills around the spot where this meteor fell were denuded of their 
trees, which fell in windrows and were also badly scorched. The nearest 
human witness seems to have been a farmer named Semenow. He was fifty miles 
away and said he felt so hot he was afraid his clothes would catch fire. He 
was knocked down and his house damaged.

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[meteorite-list] Bureau of Mines and Geology in Burkina Faso

[Pelé Pierre-Marie]

Here it it !

BUMIGEB 
01 BP. 601 OUAGADOUGOU 01 - BURKINA FASO
Tél. (226) 50 36 48 02 / 50 36 48 90
Fax: (226) 50 36 48 88
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Site Web www.bumigeb.bf

I hope it's good.

Pierre-Marie PELE
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[meteorite-list] Museum of Bureau of Mines and Geology of Burkina Faso in Ouagadougou.

[Meteoryt.net]

Hello
Im looking for any email/phone of
Museum of Bureau of Mines and Geology of Burkina Faso in Ouagadougou.

anyone can help me ?

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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - December 29, 2004

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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - December 29, 2004

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Re: [meteorite-list] The non collector

[Gerald Flaherty]

Glad to hear that you'll remain aboard Tom. Jerry(no chasing please) 
Flaherty
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From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] The non collector


Hello List,  Even though I no longer am an active meteorite collector, it
does not mean I have to be off the list, away from all my friends! I do 
not
know what I was thinking, I guess I just think of the list as a part of
meteorite collecting. I still love meteorites, I just don't collect them,
for now. : )

Thanks, Tom
"the non collector"
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[meteorite-list] RE: [OT] South African Rock and Mineral Dealer Needed

[Christian Anger]

Hi Paul,

I would recommend

Karl Sprich

70 Fransch-hoek Drive
Oakdene, Johannesburg 2190
South Africa

Tel / Fax: +27 (0)11 435 6613
Cell;  083 289 5492

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

best regards fromn Austria,

Christian


IMCA #2673
www.austromet.com
 
Christian Anger
Korngasse 6
2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg
AUSTRIA
 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:48 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] [OT] South African Rock and Mineral Dealer Needed

Dear Friends,

Is anyone on this list either a dealer in South
African rocks 
and minerals; know of a South African dealer in rocks
and 
minerals, whom I can contact; or have contacts with
South 
African collectors. If so, could you contact me off
list. 

I looking for specific rock type from South Africa for
research 
purposes. 

Direct or indirect participation in the successful
acquistion 
of this material will be rewarded, in addition, to the

purchase of rock samples with unique trade material of

interest to list members. For more details, contact me
off
list.

Best Regards, 

Paul 




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