Re: [meteorite-list] As a matter of fact, I done!
Jonathan Gore wrote: As Cicero said: Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all others. Happiness and success depends on the person making the best of things and enjoying life to the greatest extent possible. That should have read, And as Anonymous said: Happiness and success depends on the person making the best of things and enjoying life to the greatest extent possible. Like Tom Knudson said, doesn't pay to rush! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 06-29-1958 Odessa Craters Called Tourist Asset
Paper: The Odessa American City: Odessa, Texas Date: Sunday, June 29, 1958 Page: 33 Local Meteor Craters Called Tourist Asset Odessa has the least-publicized and most unknown wonder of the world within a few miles of the city and the Women In Construction Club might do well to put it on its list of projects to be supported. Tracy Byers of the Odessa American, speaker at the Thursday night meeting of the WIC's declared that the Odessa Meteor Craters southwest of town should be developed as a tourist attraction. The opening of Interstate Route 20 will bring the greatest number of tourists in history across this section of the country, and with all the new motels and improvements in old ones, Odessa can offer perfect accommodations for all. Byers said. He related efforts of past years to develop the meteor cater site, and half-hearted efforts of various groups to develop the craters. First national attention was called in the Odessa meteor craters in 1926, when a Philadelphia scientist visited here and wrote about them, Byers reported, adding, At present there are neither road signs nor markers to show anyone how to get there. The site also needs improvements. The WIC members approved doing what publicity they could for the craters, which have what is described by scientists as the third largest meteor in the world imbedded in the earth. In the discussion, several club members said they never had heard of the craters before. Virginia Porter presided at the meeting in the absence of President Bobbie Layton. Members voted to hold a box supper on Friday night, July 25, to raise money for their pet charity. They previously voted to select Otto's Boy's Ranch as the organization they would work for. A number of members indicated that they would attend the national convention of Women In Construction in the Shamrock-Hilton Hotel in Houston in September. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles Reminders: PDF copy of this article, and most I post, is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. I have been doing this to for use of the meteorite-list search engine: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/maillist.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 03-12/13-1969 Meteor Crater State Park Is Proposed
Paper: Odessa American City: Odessa, Texas Date: Wednesday, March 12, 1969 Section B Low News, Page 1 Meteor Crater State Park Is Proposed AUSTIN (Staff) - Legislation authorizing the creation of Odessa Meteor Crater State Park six miles west of Odessa was introduced into the House Wednesday morning by State Rep. Ace Pickens of Odessa. It is one of the few meteor craters in the United States,: said Pickens, and, as an ancillary matter, there are several oil wells nearby, which could add to its attractiveness as a tourist spot. There has been a great deal of effort for many years to develop the area further and it would fit in with the recent constitutional amendment which authorized $75 million in bond funds to finance the purchase of new park sites. Picken's HB 889 would authorize Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission to purchase the site and develop and maintain it as a state park of approximately 100 acres. The meteor crater development now is operated by the Permian Basin Meteorological Society. (end) Paper: Odessa American City: Odessa, Texas Date: Thursday, March 13, 1969 Section D Area News, Page 1 Meteor Crater State Park Is Proposed AUSTIN (Staff) - Legislation authorizing the creation of Odessa Meteor Crater State Park six miles west of Odessa was introduced into the House Wednesday morning by State Rep. Ace Pickens of Odessa. It is one of the few meteor craters in the United States,: said Pickens, and, as an ancillary matter, there are several oil wells nearby, which could add to its attractiveness as a tourist spot. There has been a great deal of effort for many years to develop the area further and it would fit in with the recent constitutional amendment which authorized $75 million in bond funds to finance the purchase of new park sites. Picken's HB 889 would authorize Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission to purchase the site and develop and maintain it as a state park of approximately 100 acres. The meteor crater development now is operated by the Permian Basin Meteorological Society. (end) The Odessa American liked this little article so much they ran it two days in a row in different sections of the newspaper. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles Reminders: PDF copy of this article, and most I post, is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. I have been doing this to for use of the meteorite-list search engine: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/maillist.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 06-19-1969 At Odessa Meteor Crater - 'Star' Really Fell On Texas
Paper: The Odessa American City: Odessa, Texas Date: Thursday, June 19, 1969 Page: 27 At Odessa Meteor Crater --- 'Star' Really Fell On Texas Thousands of years ago, a star fell on West Texas and produced what has been described as one of the rarest and most interesting phenomenons in the world. Odessa Meteor Crater located 10 miles southwest of the city on Highway 80, is a nearly circular depression 550 feet in diameter. Every year the crater and adjacent museum attract hundreds of visitors, many of whom are scientists wanting to further explore the site. In fact, the crater here possesses such special characteristics that it was designated in 1965 as a National Historical Landmark, the first such site in Texas to be so named by the National Parks Service fo the U.S. Department of the Interior. Legislation last year passed and created Odessa Meteor Crater State Park. Rep. Ace Pickens of Odessa introduced the bill. Besides being among the less than 30 such depressions in existence, the Odessa crater is one of ten in which associated meteoric material survived the impact with earth and the earth's erosion processes. It was probed last year by a five-man team from NASA because it resembled what they would expect some moon craters to be like. But to the layman, the crater more nearly resembles a caliche pit than anything else. To the meteorist or geologist, however, it is a scientific wonder. Most meteorites, as they hurtle through space and enter the earth's atmosphere, burn up before even touching the ground. But the nickel-iron meteorite which streaked into West Texas more than 20,000 years ago left solid evidence of its existence. It shattered on impact and blew out more than 100,000 cubic yards of rock to produce a hole 100 feet deep. According to astrophysicists, the meteorite was part of a great shower from within our solar system - probably from the asteroidal belt located between planets Jupiter and Saturn. It was first thought there was one large piece of the star buried 170 feet beneath the surface. But scientists now have determinated it exploded and vaporized on contact and that scores of fragments are all that remain of the meteor itself. Five small craters in the vicinity of the main one range from 15 feet to 70 feet in diameter and from 7 to 18 feet in depth. Through the year, the crater has filled up with sediments to within six feet of the level of the surrounding plan, and within 18 feet of its rim. It appears now as a shallow, almost circular depression surrounded by a low rock-buttressed rim. A rancher first discovered the phenomenon in 1892, but attempts to develop the site didn't start till the late 1930's. Attempts to preserve the site for scientific study and tourist attraction were made after the war, but it was not till the 1960's that the Odessa Chamber of Commerce and later Odessa Meteoritical Society, Inc., a non-profit organization became interested. The society, formed in 1962, immediately began to develop the site as a tourist attraction and outdoor lab for scientists. The group still maintains the crater. Tom Rodman is president. Odessa Meteor Crater museum, located near the site, is a one-room structure built in 1962 from donations from Odessa and area residents. It houses fragments from three other iron meteorites besides the Odessa Meteorite, 10 specimens of stony meteorite, a rare stony-iron meteorite fragment and some tektites, glassy meteorite fragments thought to be pieces of the moon. In addition, there are photos taken on recent space flights. Admission fees are 25 cents for adults and 10 cents each for children. Museum hours are 10 a.m. - 6 p.m., Thursday through Monday June through August; and 10 a.m.-6 p.m., Saturday and Sunday, September through May. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles Reminders: PDF copy of this article, and most I post, is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. I have been doing this to for use of the meteorite-list search engine: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/maillist.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 01-10-1937 Two Girls Guard Meteor Crater (Arizona)
Paper: Charleston Daily Mail City: Charleston, West Virginia Date: Sunday, January 10, 1937 Page: Part of Sunday magazine like insert, pages not numbered TWO GIRLS Guard MIGHTIEST Fallen Star World's Largest Meteor Crater Is Furnishing Funds That Will Send Two Arizona Lasses Through College. That Are Enthused With Their 'Protege' By Jack Cejnar GUARDING the mightiest fallen star that ever struck the earth is the unique but fascinating job of two of Arizona's bewitching, sun-tanned, young women. They are Doris ad Lorraine Goeglein, daughters of W.C. Goeglein, a Winslow (Ariz.) mining engineer. The pretty sisters are the hostesses, living all alone atop the rim of the giant meteor crater near Canyon Diablo, twenty miles southwest of Winslow in the blistering Painted Desert. Their job is to welcome the more adventurous tourists who divert from the Santa Fe Trail to make the side trip to this mysterious tomb of the titanic meteor that came roaring out of the northern sky during prehistoric days to smash its way deep into the bowels of the earth. The mountainous meteor is there yet, rich in contents of platinum and nickel, for modern man, after thirty years of drilling operations, finally has located it at a depth of 1370 feet. THE Impact of this celestial visitor when it struck the earth was so terrific that it blasted a cavity twenty-five times as large as the famous Yale Bowl and sent boulders weighing as much as 7000 tons flying in all directions. Strata of limestone rock hundreds of feet underground were wrenched apart and hurled upward to form a lip of dazzling whiteness rising 160 feet above the level wastes of the surrounding Central Arizona plateau and to frame the huge crater in sharp contrast against the purple and red sandstone of the desert. In a stone cabin atop this white rim, where the breezes blow constantly, dwell the two Goeglein sisters, like two copper-sunned Hopi Indian Princesses, mistresses of all they survey. From their desks through the open door they watch with field glasses for tourists' cars that may leave the Santa Fe Trail to head toward their solitary and aerial abode. They know that visitors are on the way long before the naked eye can pick out approaching machines in the illimitable open spaces of the desert. Motorists can drive almost on the top of the rim, for the cabin of the sisters is at the end of the trail leading to the edge of the crater. The beauty of the desert has cast its spell over the sisters. The desert sun has tanned them a deep brown. The purple haze of the desert distances has painted corresponding tints in their eyes. The white snowcap of majestic San Francisco Peak, towering in the clouds fifty miles to the northwest, is reflected in their pearly teeth. They move with the ease and grace of the desert antelope that often come up the path to star at the sisters and then to bound away again into the desert. We are not lonely up here, explains Doris, the older, who is 22 and who is planning to enter the University of Arizona to prepare herself for teaching. There is so much to see here all the time that we never get tired of it. We have innumerable rabbits on the rim here, quite a few antelopes and even some mountain lions to keep us company. We have the clouds and the 'dust devils' (little whirlwinds common in the Southwest) to watch, the tourists to look out for, books to read, radio to listen to and we do make occasional trips to Winslow. LORRAINE, who is 18 and a senior in Winslow High School, nods emphatically in agreement. The tourists are a continued source of interest to us, Doris continues. We always enjoy seeing their reactions when they first see the big crater. I love to instruct them about this wonder from beyond this world of ours and to answer their questions. It's probably because I hope to be a teacher some day and so it comes natural for me to play a teacher's role here now. Do you know that few incidents in nature are more dramatic then the arrival of a meteor, especially a big meteor, probably the burned-out tail of a huge comet, whizzling through space up among the stars at a rate of thirty to fifty miles a second? Then it enters the earth's atmospheric belt. In a split second friction turns it white hot. It lights up the ground below for hundreds of miles with a flash of supersunlight while thousands of incandescent fragments fly off its main glowing mass to furnish an indescribably beautiful pyrotechnical display. Then the fiery mass strikes the earth. For miles around the desert and the mountain peaks shake as it an earthquake had occurred. High into the air there shoots a cloud of dust, whose billows are punctured by flying boulders weighing thousands of tons. Then a hurricane of wind sweeps out from the scene of impact to level everything in its path and complete the awe-inspiring tableau of clashing elements. The fallen star is
[meteorite-list] Bluewing 001
I was just wondering if anyone knows who found Bluewing 001, an eucrite that was found in Pershing Co., NV. in 2000, and if there would possibly be any for sale or trade? I know the TKW is very low though, and my prospects are probably slim and none, but it doesn`t hurt to try. Thanks and hope everyone has a safe and Happy New Year Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] shipping
Hi! Well, the eBay shipping saga is finished and I am not completing the sale. He refused point blank to reconsider the shipping charges of $25 for a thumbnail specimen, but I did notice that on his new auctions he made 2 critical changes - one was to have a proper starting price (so he no longer has to sell as $65 for $1) and also much more plausible shipping charges. So, negative feedback all round!!! Not a happy ending but he obviously did not want to nurture business like all of you (and me) want to. Sometimes I am deeply saddened by the stupidity of Mankind best for the New Year! dave Sec.BIMS IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping
Dear Dave, Congratulations I think! The Chinese tend to have a higher than normal number of those that conduct business in that manner. Then again, always watch out for things that are too good to be true and buy from reputable dealers with good positive feed back. Something for nothing ALWAYS gets more scrutiny from yours truly. Before bidding, a cordial what will be the shipping costs, does my estimated amount agree with yours... Value of your time spent messing with a non-transaction is? And, so the total cost of getting nothing is? Inquiring minds want to know, Dave F. mjwy Dave Harris wrote: Hi! Well, the eBay shipping saga is finished and I am not completing the sale. He refused point blank to reconsider the shipping charges of $25 for a thumbnail specimen, but I did notice that on his new auctions he made 2 critical changes - one was to have a proper starting price (so he no longer has to sell as $65 for $1) and also much more plausible shipping charges. So, negative feedback all round!!! Not a happy ending but he obviously did not want to nurture business like all of you (and me) want to. Sometimes I am deeply saddened by the stupidity of Mankind best for the New Year! dave Sec.BIMS IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bluewing 001
I was just wondering if anyone knows who found Bluewing 001, an eucrite that was found in Pershing Co., NV. in 2000, and if there would possibly be any for sale or trade? I know the TKW is very low though, and my prospects are probably slim and none, but it doesn`t hurt to try. Thanks and hope everyone has a safe and Happy New Year Dave Hello Dave and List, A 6.1 g stone was found by P. Gessler while he was searching for meteorites on Bluewing Flat. Classification and analysis (P. Warren, UCLA): subophitic texture; pyroxene grains are mostly 1 mm and zoned from En67.5Wo4.8 to En6Wo25 to En3Wo15; plagioclase is zoned from An89 to An75, average An82; minor and trace phases include silica, ilmenite, phosphate, fayalite, K-feldspar, metal and troilite; bulk composition is similar to Stannern and Bouvante. See also Warren and Gessler (2001). Specimens: type specimen, 1.15 g, UCLA; main mass, Gessler. Best wishes for a safe, propserous and Happy 2005, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Franconia Discovery 27.5 Pounds Oriented
Hi List The largest likely Franconia meteorite was just discovered: 27.5 pounds and looks to be oriented. Picture can be seen at the following site: http://www.ctaz.com/~jsbaird/Fran27.1.jpg Jerry a. Baird __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Franconia Discovery 27.5 Pounds Oriented
The largest likely Franconia meteorite was just discovered: 27.5 pounds and looks to be oriented.Picture can be seen at the following site: http://www.ctaz.com/~jsbaird/Fran27.1.jpg Hello Jerry and List, Thanks for sharing! Beautiful thumbprinting! Any ideas what it might be? My guess: H5 ! Best New Year's Eve wishes, Bernd (looking forward to our pork and beef fondue tonight :-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: New Franconia Discovery 27.5 Pounds Oriented
Jerry posted: The largest likely Franconia meteorite was just discovered Wow! Somebody is having a happy New Year : ) Are you the finder Jerry? Congratulations on a superb find and Happy New Year to all. Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia strewnfield
Hello, I was reading today an issue of Meteorite Magazine about Franconia hunting. I searched the place on my Rand Mc Nally atlas but didn't find it. Where is located Franconia ? Regards, Pierre And happy new year 2005 for those who already crossed the year ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo d'espace de stockage pour vos mails ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.mail.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping
I don't get ebay, one well known over seas seller has a $25 shipping fee, that's fine, but if another seller sells an identical meteorite at the same starting price, but with $2 shipping, form what I have seen, the meteorites will sell for the same amount lets say $15 in the end, even though they have to pay $23 more in shipping, do they just not care what the shipping charges are? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] shipping Hi! Well, the eBay shipping saga is finished and I am not completing the sale. He refused point blank to reconsider the shipping charges of $25 for a thumbnail specimen, but I did notice that on his new auctions he made 2 critical changes - one was to have a proper starting price (so he no longer has to sell as $65 for $1) and also much more plausible shipping charges. So, negative feedback all round!!! Not a happy ending but he obviously did not want to nurture business like all of you (and me) want to. Sometimes I am deeply saddened by the stupidity of Mankind best for the New Year! dave Sec.BIMS IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping
Dear Tom, List; For me, it come down to the word VALUEdo you value your dealers, the ones you have bought from in the past, or notable visible dealers, (IMCA members, List members, consistent sellers, better than 98% feed back and OVER 50 positive feed back). Value meaning supporting good dealers that offer good prices and good service (and piece of mind) are a real value. Support your good service and goods providers and they will provide the value. Supporting fly-by-night, or non confirmed sellers for a bargain hot 10 cents deal that costs a ton of shipping/handling/time to straighten out a mess is not a VALUE deal, and speculative at best. Many fly-by-night sellers could care less what you have to pay them for shipping, especially when you are to tight with your money to spend more than 99 cents on a meteorite that should sell for tens of dollars. I do not feel sorry for those that really expect something for nothing and get skinned at trying. One plays one pays. Support Value, support your good dealers. Dave F. Happy New Year to all! Tom AKA James Knudson wrote: I don't get ebay, one well known over seas seller has a $25 shipping fee, that's fine, but if another seller sells an identical meteorite at the same starting price, but with $2 shipping, form what I have seen, the meteorites will sell for the same amount lets say $15 in the end, even though they have to pay $23 more in shipping, do they just not care what the shipping charges are? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] shipping Hi! Well, the eBay shipping saga is finished and I am not completing the sale. He refused point blank to reconsider the shipping charges of $25 for a thumbnail specimen, but I did notice that on his new auctions he made 2 critical changes - one was to have a proper starting price (so he no longer has to sell as $65 for $1) and also much more plausible shipping charges. So, negative feedback all round!!! Not a happy ending but he obviously did not want to nurture business like all of you (and me) want to. Sometimes I am deeply saddened by the stupidity of Mankind best for the New Year! dave Sec.BIMS IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping
Tom, Ebay will tell you and do so in their user agreements that they Only Provide The Venue for the auctions/sales to occur. They do not police their site for everything that goes onmore and more they have to rely on the users to police themselves. Go look at antique/Persian rugs on Ebay. Lots of dealers that are very reputable. Look at the pricingsome start at a dollar and have a fixed shipping cost of $199.00, others have starting prices at $150.00 and up and have a $45.00 or more depending on where you live shipping cost. I have bought several rugs online from both types. The average 8 x 12 foot rug is about $45.00 to ship to me. I look for the reasonable shipping terms and then go for the item I want. As a seller on Ebay (desertcrystal) starting my 6th year I can honestly say that bidders do not read auctions and they do not ask questions. I do not care if the item sells for one pennyTHAT IS NOT what it is going to cost. Shipping should be your first concern anytime you are buyingnothing is a deal if the seller is making money on the shipping and by bidding on an item and then arguing about the cost is wasting time. Ebays rules are if you bid...you agree to the terms STATED in the auction at the time you bid. Anyone that bids should have first read the entire auction, they should UNDERSTAND what they read and if they still have questions they should ASK first before bidding. Simple common sense. I can not tell you the number of bidder I have had that never asked a single question about an item or the shipping until the auction was over and at that point, at least as far as this seller is concerned your pissing up a rope with me. You bid, you won, you pay, I ship, transaction over plain and simple. I answer 30 emails a day on average, many asking about the item, most about the shipping. I answer every question, I offer alternatives to issues, I try to accommodate any bidders reasonable request, special handling, really anything, as long as it is BEFORE the auction ends. I also charge a handling fee because we pack very well and professionally and that costs money and that cost we pass onto our bidders as a handling fee. BUT every seller that packs fragile items has to recover their costs for materials and they either do it in the starting price or in shipping/handling fees. I prefer to be upfront and say there will be a handling fee, I only ever charge EXACT shipping costs, plus handling25 cents a sheet for bubblewrap and $1.00 a cubic foot for peanuts and that is EXACTLY what I pay. If you look at my feedback our customers love our shipping and packing. I do not sell meteorites. If I did I would charge exact postage for whatever service they bidder wanted and only $0.12 - $0.25 cents for bubblewrap and only if it was really needed to protect the stone. I have used bubblewrap here that is not good for antiques but is great for metal and other things that won't shatter and since I get it free I give it away. My whole point is...90% of the problems on ebay is a lack of communication and understanding. Bidders need to ask questions, know the terms and understand what the costs will be. REPUTABLE sellers will have no problems answering questions, they will have reasonable costs and they will work with the bidder. IF every bidder did this the bullshit sellers that charge $25.00 to ship a thumbnail size piece of stone will not be on ebay long...they would not have bidders because the bidders would have asked questions and found out that the seller was screwing them and then would not bid. Please...everyone, If you are going to buy on ebay, ASK questions of the seller BEFORE you bid. Know what it is you are buying, what it will cost to ship and be sure you have no lingering questions. IF the seller does not answer the first email, send a second as lord knows how reliable email is. IF the seller does not answer or does not have the answers that make YOU feel good about the sale DO NOT BID. There will always be another chance at ANY item on ebay...all it will cost you is the time to find it. Nothing will ever replace the time spent arguing about something that could have been avoided 9 times out of 10 with a simple question before that mouse goes click. Mark Miconi Phoenix AZ Mark M. Phoenix AZ At least once every human being should have to run for his life, to teach him that milk does not come from a supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people. - Robert Heinlein - Original Message - From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] shipping I don't get ebay, one well known over seas seller has a $25 shipping fee, that's fine, but if another seller sells an identical meteorite at the same starting price, but with $2 shipping, form what I have seen, the
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping
Hi Tom and list, Just returned from a nice vacation to Tennessee and North Carolina. Picked up a rare meteorite in the Great Smoke Mountians called snowangel. check it out: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/snowangel.jpg and the strewnfield: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/strewn.jpg do they just not care what the shipping charges are? Yes, that is it. It's called psychology. People disregard shipping and handling charges for the most part. I don't. BTW, whoever invented the term handling as a charge was a marketing genius. Imagine paying for someone to actually handle your merchandise. Similarly, whoever thought of adding .95 or .99 to the end of a holler amount was also a marketing genius! I see lots of micromounts on ebay which I would like to add to my collection but I don't bother because of the excessive shipping fees. Overcharging for shipping is older than ebay. Doing so insures that the ebay and paypal fees are paid and in many cases, such as the example here, adds profit. I almost always pass over any auction which doesn't list shipping fees or give some indication of shipping fees. If I am really interested in item, I will ask the seller to give me an idea as to shipping. Many times, the selller does not respond so I just pass the auction by. Hoping everyone has a great 2005! -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] shipping I don't get ebay, one well known over seas seller has a $25 shipping fee, that's fine, but if another seller sells an identical meteorite at the same starting price, but with $2 shipping, form what I have seen, the meteorites will sell for the same amount lets say $15 in the end, even though they have to pay $23 more in shipping, do they just not care what the shipping charges are? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] shipping Hi! Well, the eBay shipping saga is finished and I am not completing the sale. He refused point blank to reconsider the shipping charges of $25 for a thumbnail specimen, but I did notice that on his new auctions he made 2 critical changes - one was to have a proper starting price (so he no longer has to sell as $65 for $1) and also much more plausible shipping charges. So, negative feedback all round!!! Not a happy ending but he obviously did not want to nurture business like all of you (and me) want to. Sometimes I am deeply saddened by the stupidity of Mankind best for the New Year! dave Sec.BIMS IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear Mark; You are absolutely correct. Stupid is as stupid does. Buyers do not read. Repeat buyers that have learned the transactions are golden children in my book and get freebies occasionally because I know they will not cost me extra time, they expect good stuff for a good price and they get good stuff and good service for a good price and they pay promptly. We leave great feedback and we send each other Christmas gifts and prior posting notices when something great comes up at auction so they can plan to look/buy before others of lesser status can grab the best of the best. Repeat customers support my livelihood. Crappy customers get put on my bidder management program. I do not have time to waste on chizzlers, non paying bidders, or anyone that would deserve less than positive feed back. If you find a good used car dealer, stick with him. If you find a good minister or undertaker, stay with him. Good politician..ah-hum...good luck! Good buyers and sellers are the key to happy business. Reading the bid contract is the only way to know what is what. Do you sign blank contracts at the car dealership or the bank? Don't bid ebay unless you read the contract first. Don't bid my auctions if you can't read the shipping, payment, and about me page for my business policies. I hand type that in every auction I list, and half never read it. Best, Dave F. mjwy Mark Miconi wrote: Tom, Ebay will tell you and do so in their user agreements that they Only Provide The Venue for the auctions/sales to occur. They do not police their site for everything that goes onmore and more they have to rely on the users to police themselves. Go look at antique/Persian rugs on Ebay. Lots of dealers that are very reputable. Look at the pricingsome start at a dollar and have a fixed shipping cost of $199.00, others have starting prices at $150.00 and up and have a $45.00 or more depending on where you live shipping cost. I have bought several rugs online from both types. The average 8 x 12 foot rug is about $45.00 to ship to me. I look for the reasonable shipping terms and then go for the item I want. As a seller on Ebay (desertcrystal) starting my 6th year I can honestly say that bidders do not read auctions and they do not ask questions. I do not care if the item sells for one pennyTHAT IS NOT what it is going to cost. Shipping should be your first concern anytime you are buyingnothing is a deal if the seller is making money on the shipping and by bidding on an item and then arguing about the cost is wasting time. Ebays rules are if you bid...you agree to the terms STATED in the auction at the time you bid. Anyone that bids should have first read the entire auction, they should UNDERSTAND what they read and if they still have questions they should ASK first before bidding. Simple common sense. I can not tell you the number of bidder I have had that never asked a single question about an item or the shipping until the auction was over and at that point, at least as far as this seller is concerned your pissing up a rope with me. You bid, you won, you pay, I ship, transaction over plain and simple. I answer 30 emails a day on average, many asking about the item, most about the shipping. I answer every question, I offer alternatives to issues, I try to accommodate any bidders reasonable request, special handling, really anything, as long as it is BEFORE the auction ends. I also charge a handling fee because we pack very well and professionally and that costs money and that cost we pass onto our bidders as a handling fee. BUT every seller that packs fragile items has to recover their costs for materials and they either do it in the starting price or in shipping/handling fees. I prefer to be upfront and say there will be a handling fee, I only ever charge EXACT shipping costs, plus handling25 cents a sheet for bubblewrap and $1.00 a cubic foot for peanuts and that is EXACTLY what I pay. If you look at my feedback our customers love our shipping and packing. I do not sell meteorites. If I did I would charge exact postage for whatever service they bidder wanted and only $0.12 - $0.25 cents for bubblewrap and only if it was really needed to protect the stone. I have used bubblewrap here that is not good for antiques but is great for metal and other things that won't shatter and since I get it free I give it away. My whole point is...90% of the problems on ebay is a lack of communication and understanding. Bidders need to ask questions, know the terms and understand what the costs will be. REPUTABLE sellers will have no problems answering questions, they will have reasonable costs and they will work with the bidder. IF every bidder did this the bullshit sellers that charge $25.00 to ship a thumbnail size piece of stone will not be on ebay long...they would not have bidders because the bidders would have asked questions and found out that the seller was screwing them and then would not
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping and more
Dear all, Ebay has a shipping calculator where the seller puts in his zip code, the weight of the shipment, the mode of shipping (the speed to send it out) and the calculator will supply the potential bidder the exact shipping cost.try it some time, it is pretty close to actual 90% of the time with what I sell. Always be sure to request an invoice of actual shipping weight on combined items (always ask about combined shipping if it isn't stated in the auction) to save a few dollars on only paying ins. and delivery confirmation once, and I never ship anything with out insurance and delivery confirmation. It is stated in my auctions in numerous places and still, 10% can't read. Dave F. mjwy Walter Branch wrote: Hi Tom and list, Just returned from a nice vacation to Tennessee and North Carolina. Picked up a rare meteorite in the Great Smoke Mountians called snowangel. check it out: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/snowangel.jpg and the strewnfield: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/strewn.jpg do they just not care what the shipping charges are? Yes, that is it. It's called psychology. People disregard shipping and handling charges for the most part. I don't. BTW, whoever invented the term handling as a charge was a marketing genius. Imagine paying for someone to actually handle your merchandise. Similarly, whoever thought of adding .95 or .99 to the end of a holler amount was also a marketing genius! I see lots of micromounts on ebay which I would like to add to my collection but I don't bother because of the excessive shipping fees. Overcharging for shipping is older than ebay. Doing so insures that the ebay and paypal fees are paid and in many cases, such as the example here, adds profit. I almost always pass over any auction which doesn't list shipping fees or give some indication of shipping fees. If I am really interested in item, I will ask the seller to give me an idea as to shipping. Many times, the selller does not respond so I just pass the auction by. Hoping everyone has a great 2005! -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] shipping I don't get ebay, one well known over seas seller has a $25 shipping fee, that's fine, but if another seller sells an identical meteorite at the same starting price, but with $2 shipping, form what I have seen, the meteorites will sell for the same amount lets say $15 in the end, even though they have to pay $23 more in shipping, do they just not care what the shipping charges are? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] shipping Hi! Well, the eBay shipping saga is finished and I am not completing the sale. He refused point blank to reconsider the shipping charges of $25 for a thumbnail specimen, but I did notice that on his new auctions he made 2 critical changes - one was to have a proper starting price (so he no longer has to sell as $65 for $1) and also much more plausible shipping charges. So, negative feedback all round!!! Not a happy ending but he obviously did not want to nurture business like all of you (and me) want to. Sometimes I am deeply saddened by the stupidity of Mankind best for the New Year! dave Sec.BIMS IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Elbogen
...just to change the thread I am really happy to announce that I am buying some Elbogen from Dieter Heinlein!! Bloody old stuff that is! thanks Dieter! dave Sec.BIMS IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] bad feedback
..and hey! I actually got some bad feedback on eBay - check it out!! Y'know, I really don't care! The people who do buy from me know me so I am not too bothered!! thanks __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping
BTW, whoever invented the term handling as a charge was a marketing genius. Imagine paying for someone to actually handle your merchandise. Thats not exactly true - shipping charges are the cost of postage to get your item to you - handeling is the cost of the box, packing material, and in some cases, waiting in line at the post office for an hour to send out a package because insured mail cant be simply dropped off at a drop box - think about it, if your boss made you stand inline for an hour, off the clock to pick up your paycheck, would you be happy about it? The cost of paking an item might not seem like much, but it certainly adds up - there was a time when i was selling on ebay alot of bulky items and it wasnt unusual to see charges on my credit card statement for a few hundred $$ from the packing supply store. even when we are tlaking about small micromounts, a membrane box, some packing material, and a cardboard box cost a few $ total - more than the actual postage might be for a small item, but it's a cost none the less. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] List of Nevada Meteorites
As the year 2004 draws to a close we tend to reflect upon the past and of past accomplishments, as well as, of resolutions still undone. Now here's something that I had on this year's to do list - make a list of Nevada meteorites. More and more I've been getting asked if there is a source for this kind of information. I have to admit that I can only find very limited information. I used to have a bookmark for the post by Rob Matson where he listed the cataloged NV meteorites, but since Art has changed servers that link is no longer working. Anyway, it's probably time for an update. And here it is: - LIST OF KNOWN* NEVEDA METEORITES - * = NOTES: (1) This is a list of Nevada meteorites that are known to me, Robert Verish, to the best of my knowledge. This list is in two parts - 1st part lists the known classified meteorites, and the 2nd part lists all of the known reported but unclassified meteorites. (2) All of the meteorites listed have been reported to the Meteoritical Society's Nomenclature Committee (NomCom). Some of the classified meteorites listed are still pending approval by the NomCom. In some cases the meteorite name has been made blank until their provisional name has been formally approved. This list will be updated as the approval status changes. (3) MRF = found by a meteorite-recovery team member during a group search. (4) Roach Dry Lake info courtesy of Rob Matson data compilation. (5) If you have any additions or corrections, please contact me. 1908 - Quinn Canyon 1930 - Las Vegas - J.P. King - (probably a transported Canyon Diablo) 1935 - Boak's Meteorite - L.J. Murphy - (private collection, never cataloged, now is lost) 1935 - Quartz Mountain 03/08/1995 - Hot Springs - found by Mr. F. Keiper 12/23/1997 - Primm - initial finds by Nick and Paul Gessler 01/02/1998 - Roach - Nick and Paul Gessler 05/02/1998 - Bonnie Claire 001 - Nick Gessler 05/02/1998 - Bonnie Claire 002 - Nick Gessler 07/20/1998 - Alkali - Nick Gessler Spring 1999 - Majuba - Harold McCormick (Classification witheld by Univ. of Az.) 05/02/1999 - Beer Bottle Pass - John Gwilliam 05/02/1999 - Devil Peak - John Gwilliam 10/28/1999 - Bluewing 002-004 - Paul Gessler 11/04/1999 - Bluewing 005 - Paul Gessler 11/07/1999 - Bluewing 006-007 - Paul Gessler 02/28/2000 - Tungsten Mountain 011 - Paul Gessler 02/28/2000 - Tungsten Mountain 001 - Paul Gessler 06/14/2000 - Bluewing 001 - Paul Gessler 08/01/2000 - Roach Dry Lake 002 - John Blennert (Probably paired to Devil Peak) 10/21/2000 - Roach Dry Lake 003 - Rob Matson (Probably paired to Primm) 11/26/2000 - Dry Lake Valley - Robert Verish 02/17/2001 - _ _ _ _ 004 (H6 S2 W2) - Robert Verish (Name pending approval) 02/17/2001 - _ _ _ _ 022 (L6 S3 W4) - Robert Verish () 02/17/2001 - _ _ _ _ 030 (H3.8 S2 W4) - Robert Verish () 03/19/2001 - Kumiva Valley - Nick Gessler 03/31/2001 - Roach Dry Lake 006 - Kim Cathcart 05/03/2001 - _ _ _ _ 101 (L6 S4 W3) - Robert Verish () 05/28/2001 - Tungsten Mountain 002-004 - Robert Verish 08/04/2001 - Tungsten Mountain 005-006 - G. LaBarbera 08/04/2001 - Tungsten Mountain 007-010 - Jim LaBarbera 08/17/2001 - Bluewing 008 - Rob Matson 08/17/2001 - Diamond Valley - Nick Gessler 09/08/2001 - _ _ _ _ 260 (H6 S3 W4) - G. LaBarbera () 01/12/2002 - Mud Dry Lake - Robert Verish 03/17/2002 - Roach Dry Lake 024 - Kim Cathcart 05/05/2002 - Roach Dry Lake 027 - Rob Matson 05/05/2002 - Roach Dry Lake 030 - Rob Matson 05/06/2002 - Roach Dry Lake 031 - Robert Verish 06/13/2002 - Sawtooth Knob - Gordon and Patrcia Cave 07/05/2002 - Roach Dry Lake 064 - Kim Cathcart 07/19/2002 - Roach Dry Lake 075 - Rob Matson 08/??/2002 - Majuba 002 (H4 S2 W5) - Diane Thomas (Number pending approval) 12/01/2002 - Alkali 002 (H5 S3 W3) - MRF - () 12/01/2002 - Alkali 003 (LL6 S3 W1 breccia)-MRF() 08/15/2003 - Alkali 004 (H5 S3 W3) - MRF - () 08/15/2003 - Alkali 005 (H5 S3 W3) - MRF - () 08/15/2003 - Alkali 006 (LL6 Fa29.7%) - MRF - () 08/16/2003 - Lunar Dry Lake (L5 Fa24.5%)-Robert Verish (Name pending approval) 10/10/2003 - Majuba 003 (H4 S2 W3) - Gary Long-() 10/30/2003 - N31030K (H6 S3 W3) - MRF -() 11/12/2003 - N31112C (L6 S_ W_) - Robert Verish-() 11/17/2003 - N31117A (H6 S2 W3) - Larry Sloan - () ??/??/ - Eldorado Valley (Classified) - ? (Name pending approval) The following meteorites need to be classified AND have their names formally approved by the Nomenclature Committee before they can be included in the above list. UNCLASSIFIED FINDS (with NomCom Provisional numbers AND from a known locality): 11/04/2003 - Kumiva Valley 002 - Robert Verish (Provisional unclassified chondrite) 07/25/1999 Roach Dry Lake 001 - Robert Verish - (Prov. Uncl. Ch.) 10/21/2000 11:30aRoach Dry Lake 004 - Rob Matson - ()
[meteorite-list] shipping again
Happy new year friends! Shipping is critical - you are only entitled to charge for the materials, a respectable amount of 'labour' and the actual postage - anything else is, from eBay's point of view fee avoidance - that is why they take a dim view of shady shipping costs. Personally I would only bid on a heavy item from the US, especially if it said US only, after emailing the seller. I have never had a seller refuse to sell to me because I live in the UK! I know the shipping is going to be more - common sense! As I told Tom, (and I am sure Tom won't mind me quoting from my own email to him),I had a situation just this week... On the other hand, despite only stating UK buyers only, I have just sold an enormous box of rocks weighing in at 40lb (!) to the States and the shipping is $200 for a $100 item. I gave the buyer a) a month to pay and b) also gave him the option many times to pull out of the sale with no negativity as I realised that perhaps he acted on impulse! It is no biggy, just recoup the costs from eBay as a non-paying bidder - sale mutually agreed to be cancelled and that is that. I did not charge him for the running around I did getting the best price nor the materials it took to pack... That's the way to do it! ...same thing happened when I sold my 6 Newtonian. just common sense and decency non-dealer dave Sec.BIMS IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all
Hello y'all (me practicing southern talk), Plain and simple, Happy New Year! :-) Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all
Happy New 2005 to all on this List! José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 11:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all (me practicing southern talk), Plain and simple, Happy New Year! :-) Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all
Hello y'all, we already have 2005 here ! Happy New Year from Austria too ! Christian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 12:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all (me practicing southern talk), Plain and simple, Happy New Year! :-) Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping and more
Ebay has a shipping calculator where the seller puts in his zip code, the weight of the shipment, the mode of shipping (the speed to send it out) and the calculator will supply the potential bidder the exact shipping cost.try it some time, it is pretty close to actual 90% of the time with what I sell. Be extra cautious with the shipping calculator. I have heard that there are a lot of ways for it to miscalculate, depending on what parameters are set... and sometimes it sets them itself, incorrectly! Always review its settings before you turn the auction loose to run. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all
I'm off to the Fiesta Bowl Block Party with my wife, three daughters and 200,000 other people of questionable intelligence. My daughters are excited, someone called Smashmouth is playing on stage #1. I'm looking forward to getting back home! I hope you all have a safe and Happy New Year. Hopefully this next year will be filled with many new meteorites and more adventures. Best, John Gwilliam At 04:44 PM 12/31/2004, Christian Anger wrote: Hello y'all, we already have 2005 here ! Happy New Year from Austria too ! Christian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 12:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all (me practicing southern talk), Plain and simple, Happy New Year! :-) Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all
Hello Everyone, Taking a break from making the punch. Here in Savannah, Georgia, my family and I are celebrating with our traditional New Year's eve feast: shrimp, crab, crab rangoon, veggies and fruit, pot stickers, chips and dip. I make a great Salsa but recently I picked up some called Day of the Dead with special Habanero peppers. Yummy! Happy New Year Everyone! -Walter - - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all, we already have 2005 here ! Happy New Year from Austria too ! Christian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 12:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all (me practicing southern talk), Plain and simple, Happy New Year! :-) Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all
Dear Walter; Your pot stickers tend to worry me! Dave F. Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, Taking a break from making the punch. Here in Savannah, Georgia, my family and I are celebrating with our traditional New Year's eve feast: shrimp, crab, crab rangoon, veggies and fruit, pot stickers, chips and dip. I make a great Salsa but recently I picked up some called Day of the Dead with special Habanero peppers. Yummy! Happy New Year Everyone! -Walter - - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all, we already have 2005 here ! Happy New Year from Austria too ! Christian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 12:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all (me practicing southern talk), Plain and simple, Happy New Year! :-) Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] how you young we can start collecting meteorite
Hello All, Well, lets see. I started collecting meteorites on my 8th birthday but am now 14... It's nice to get into something while you're young, can persue it and can spend a lot of free time scanning the internet and flipping through books. Happy New Year! Jason You don't have to accept the truth. Just ignore it until it goes away. -Jason Utas __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year's to Everybody!!.
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[meteorite-list] Informacion desde venezuela
Buenas noches. Gracias por incluirnos en su lista. Desde Venezuela , quisièramos saber que informaciòn manejan Uds. sobre hallazgos o caìdas de meteoritos . Practicamos la excurciòn de campo desde hace 20 años y hemos recolectado diversas piedras llamativas a nuestros ojos y luego de saber que un muy alto porcentaje de meteoritos son magnèticos, varias de nuestras muestras tienen esa propiedad. Si Uds. conocen alguna instituciòn en el paìs que pueda evaluar estas piedras, les agradeceremos su informaciòn . Caso contrario, indìquenos a quien acudir o enviar alguna muestra de èllas para verificar su gènesis. Atentamente, Paolo Gallo. 31 / 12 / 04 _ MSN Amor: busca tu ½ naranja http://latam.msn.com/amor/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year's to Everybody!!.
Hello All, I would like to take this opportunity to wish each and everyone of you a very Happy and Prosperous New Year's!!!. May everyone find a meteorite and not a meteorwrong. This has been a fantastic year for learning and I am looking forward to dealing a lot more with each and every one of the group members. You are all a great bunch of folks!!. Sincerely, Mark A. Massey I.M.C.A #44 = test'; __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all
It's undoubtedly already the New Year elsewhere in the world... Tonight will be a small friends and family gathering: Chicken paprikash with noodles, mini quiches and corn (regrettably not on the cob.) Tomorrow will be a somewhat larger feast, because I just found out that Mein Host has a cold and will not be able to have the usual gathering: a marinated lamb roast (we have a marinade that transforms a boneless leg of lamb into the Lamb of God :-), glazed ham, baked chicken, broccoli with cheese sauce, beer bread, rice, fruit salad, poke if I can get it, and a dessert cake/bread of some type (it was a gift; what do I know?) I'm not very sorry to see the back end of 2004. The tsunamis were a terrible blow to Indonesia, but the preceding parts of the year, at least locally, weren't all that fun either. Hopefully 2005 will be better! Best wishes to all, and Gung hee fat choy! Tracy Latimer From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:01:09 -0500 Hello Everyone, Taking a break from making the punch. Here in Savannah, Georgia, my family and I are celebrating with our traditional New Year's eve feast: shrimp, crab, crab rangoon, veggies and fruit, pot stickers, chips and dip. I make a great Salsa but recently I picked up some called Day of the Dead with special Habanero peppers. Yummy! Happy New Year Everyone! -Walter - - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all, we already have 2005 here ! Happy New Year from Austria too ! Christian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 12:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all (me practicing southern talk), Plain and simple, Happy New Year! :-) Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Proud Tom signature series #1
Hello List, it is here, the Proud Tom signature series etched meteorite! This is a one of a kind meteorite that will never be duplicated by the real proud tom! This is a self portrait and is signed by proud tom. This is it, only one Proud Tom fan can own the signature meteorite, bid now and bid high, be the only one on your block to own this magnificent meteorite! All proceeds will be donated to the self proclaimed poorest non collector fund, (that is me). Don't forget, why bid once when you can bid twice and pay twice as much http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6502727807ssPageNam e=STRK:MESE:IT Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!! Greg Redfern JPL NASA Solar System Ambassador http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ambassador/index.html International Meteorite Collectors Association #5781 http://www.imca.cc Member Meteoritical Society http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JKGwilliam Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 6:58 PM To: Christian Anger; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy New Year y'all I'm off to the Fiesta Bowl Block Party with my wife, three daughters and 200,000 other people of questionable intelligence. My daughters are excited, someone called Smashmouth is playing on stage #1. I'm looking forward to getting back home! I hope you all have a safe and Happy New Year. Hopefully this next year will be filled with many new meteorites and more adventures. Best, John Gwilliam At 04:44 PM 12/31/2004, Christian Anger wrote: Hello y'all, we already have 2005 here ! Happy New Year from Austria too ! Christian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 12:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year y'all Hello y'all (me practicing southern talk), Plain and simple, Happy New Year! :-) Greg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom signature series #1
we have found who is the idiot proud tom... Matteo From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom signature series #1 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:02:55 -0700 Hello List, it is here, the Proud Tom signature series etched meteorite! This is a one of a kind meteorite that will never be duplicated by the real proud tom! This is a self portrait and is signed by proud tom. This is it, only one Proud Tom fan can own the signature meteorite, bid now and bid high, be the only one on your block to own this magnificent meteorite! All proceeds will be donated to the self proclaimed poorest non collector fund, (that is me). Don't forget, why bid once when you can bid twice and pay twice as much http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6502727807ssPageNam e=STRK:MESE:IT Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Blocca le pop-up pubblicitarie con MSN Toolbar! http://toolbar.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom signature series #1
I am just the namesake, not the biographer of the website, but I am the real proud tom! Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom signature series #1 we have found who is the idiot proud tom... Matteo From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom signature series #1 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:02:55 -0700 Hello List, it is here, the Proud Tom signature series etched meteorite! This is a one of a kind meteorite that will never be duplicated by the real proud tom! This is a self portrait and is signed by proud tom. This is it, only one Proud Tom fan can own the signature meteorite, bid now and bid high, be the only one on your block to own this magnificent meteorite! All proceeds will be donated to the self proclaimed poorest non collector fund, (that is me). Don't forget, why bid once when you can bid twice and pay twice as much http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6502727807ssPageNa m e=STRK:MESE:IT Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Blocca le pop-up pubblicitarie con MSN Toolbar! http://toolbar.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
