date:20050126

Dear list members,
Just being called a "used car salesmen" has motivated us, WE WON'T BE
UNDERSOLD!!

We now have on the eBay seller, "naturesvault", auction block, a fine used
meteorite starting at just 99 cents, NWA 3133!! That's Right, We have
SLASHED PRICES to just 99 CENTS!! In fact, there are 10 models of the 3133
on the Hupe Meteorite eBay Lot right now. They may have a few miles under
their slightly weathered chassis but what do you expect from something that
has cruised around the sun a few times. The competition is screaming, "How
can they do that?!" Easy, we are the only used meteorite lot that has this
make and model. Click here to see a complete slice:

NWA 3133 Complete Slice 2.442 grams
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6508134533&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
ACT NOW! Now is the time you can get a Ferrari of a meteorite at a Pinto of
a price. No need for Factory Rebates, realize the best prices NOW. You name
the price! No hidden Dealer fees here. Don't forget the 10 million mile
Power Train warranty. Drive it off the Hupe Collection lot today! These even
have the factory maintenance records. You don't even have to kick the tires
on this real McCoy, purely authentic!!

And it doesn't stop there! We will have every conceivable model of the NWA
3133 at the Tucson Show, enough for EVERYONE.

WE WON'T BE UNDERSOLD!!! We will beat any NWA 3133 price. In fact, we'll
even fill the tank (must be present in Tucson for the free tank fill). Heck,
we may even have a "Tail-Gate" party! This is truly a collectors dream, rock
bottom prices! No balloons and hot dogs, just GREAT DEALS!!!

To see all of these, click on above link and click "View Seller's other
items" or go to eBay and search under seller, naturesvault.

Best regards,
Greg and Adam Hupe
P.S. Be sure to keep an eye on our auctions over the upcoming months as we
will have dozens of new classified meteorites to offer.
naturesvault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pictures of Cambodian meteorite

2005-01-26 Thread Norman Lehrman

All,

In a world of wannabes, the real ones are conspicuous!
 In the gold business we have a saying that "gold is
like a rattlesnake.  If there's any doubt, it isn't". 
Increasingly, I'm learning that that applies to
meteorites equally well.  

This one's a winner!

Leaving for Tucson in the morning! See ya there.
Cheers,
Norm
http://TektiteSource.com

--- "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A rock like that can ruin my rice paddy any time
> it wants to!
> I'll built it a shrine. Do you suppose if I dug a
> rice paddy in my
> back yard, one of these rocks would land there? (If
> you build it,
> they will come!)
> 
> 
> Sterling K. Webb
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pictures of Cambodian meteorite

2005-01-26 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi,

A rock like that can ruin my rice paddy any time it wants to!
I'll built it a shrine. Do you suppose if I dug a rice paddy in my
back yard, one of these rocks would land there? (If you build it,
they will come!)

Sterling K. Webb
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[meteorite-list] Pictures of Cambodian meteorite

2005-01-26 Thread joseph_town

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/cambodiameteor
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3133 "Real Deal"-blah blah blah

2005-01-26 Thread Adam Hupe

Dear John,

Who is being coat tailed here, NWA 3133 is official and you are using an
abstract that describes our stones and then claiming your price is better.
We have the best price there is.  It is pretty hard to beat a starting price
of just 99 cents for an official meteorite.  There is nothing wrong with
being competitive and as far as Dr. Bunch goes, he agrees oxygen isotopes
and peer review are important.  I have seen nothing official on your piece.

All the best,

Adam




- Original Message - 
From: "John Birdsell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:13 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 3133 "Real Deal"-blah blah blah


> Dear Greg and Adam...Please stop trying to start trouble on this list
> and save your sale pitches for the used car lot. If either of you had
> any class you wouldn't try to butt in on other dealers ads right after
> they had been posted and you wouldn't make reckless comments impugning
> Ted Bunch or other meteorite dealers. As far as our primitive achondrite
> NWA 2643 is concerned, it has been microprobed and was paired to NWA
> 3133 by Ted Bunch.  No "second guessing" involved whatsoever. So Adam
> and Greg if you want to continue to argue about this topic please take
> it off the list and take it up with Dr. Bunch as we are really not the
> least bit interested in any of your opinions.
>
> As for the collectors that are interested in our newly classified
> primitive achondrite NWA 2643, we are sure that we will be able to offer
> expertly prepared part slices for a fraction of the price that other
> "dealers" are offering similar over priced materials for.
>
>
> Kindest regards
>
> -John & Dawn
> Arizona Skies Meteorites
> http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com
>
>
>
>
> Greg Hupe wrote:
>
> > Dear list members,
> >
> > We start the Official NWA 3133 material out at just 99 cents every
> > week on ebay and let the market determine the value.  NWA 3133 has
> > several published abstracts, is official and its provenance is
> > unquestionable because of oxygen isotope testing.  Get a piece of the
> > meteorite that started it all and is the only official CV7 in
> > existence, no need for second guessing. We have seen too much material
> > that is "close" to the real deal, but no comprehensive testing was
> > completed of the others and/or microprobe data has proven them not to
> > be paired.
> >
> > We are currently taking orders for Complete Slices , Part Slices or
> > what ever type of specimen you would like. We will cut thin and
> > diamond lap polish BOTH sides to meet the high standards set for
> > material from The Hupe Collection.
> >
> > Why buy second guess material when you can have the one that started
> > it all, Official NWA 3133! Accepting custom orders now at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] where you will not be disappointed in ANY
> > aspect of the deal.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Greg and Adam Hupe
> > The Hupe Collection
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > naturesvault
> > meteoritelab
> > IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] NWA 3133 "Real Deal"-blah blah blah

2005-01-26 Thread John Birdsell

Dear Greg and Adam...Please stop trying to start trouble on this list 
and save your sale pitches for the used car lot. If either of you had 
any class you wouldn't try to butt in on other dealers ads right after 
they had been posted and you wouldn't make reckless comments impugning 
Ted Bunch or other meteorite dealers. As far as our primitive achondrite 
NWA 2643 is concerned, it has been microprobed and was paired to NWA 
3133 by Ted Bunch.  No "second guessing" involved whatsoever. So Adam 
and Greg if you want to continue to argue about this topic please take 
it off the list and take it up with Dr. Bunch as we are really not the 
least bit interested in any of your opinions. 

As for the collectors that are interested in our newly classified 
primitive achondrite NWA 2643, we are sure that we will be able to offer 
expertly prepared part slices for a fraction of the price that other 
"dealers" are offering similar over priced materials for. 

Kindest regards
-John & Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites
http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com

Greg Hupe wrote:
Dear list members,
We start the Official NWA 3133 material out at just 99 cents every 
week on ebay and let the market determine the value.  NWA 3133 has 
several published abstracts, is official and its provenance is 
unquestionable because of oxygen isotope testing.  Get a piece of the 
meteorite that started it all and is the only official CV7 in 
existence, no need for second guessing. We have seen too much material 
that is "close" to the real deal, but no comprehensive testing was 
completed of the others and/or microprobe data has proven them not to 
be paired.

We are currently taking orders for Complete Slices , Part Slices or 
what ever type of specimen you would like. We will cut thin and 
diamond lap polish BOTH sides to meet the high standards set for 
material from The Hupe Collection.

Why buy second guess material when you can have the one that started 
it all, Official NWA 3133! Accepting custom orders now at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] where you will not be disappointed in ANY 
aspect of the deal.

Best regards,
Greg and Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
naturesvault
meteoritelab
IMCA 2185
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Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

2005-01-26 Thread Art

I would imagine that area could still be littered with landmines from
the war? The fall hitting a landmine could account for the villager's
reports of hearing a noise like a "bomb exploding" and subsequent
fire. What are the chances of that?

-Art
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - January 20-26, 2005

WOW!! Check out the "Map" on Opportunity Rover as seen from orbit. You 
can almost see the heat shield Meteorite. Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite Mailing List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:57 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - January 20-26, 2005

MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
January 20-26, 2005
The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:
o Dark Polar Dunes (Released 20 January 2005)
 http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/20/
o Becquerel's Sediment (Released 21 January 2005)
 http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/21/
o North Polar Dunes (Released 22 January 2005)
 http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/22/
o Layers Below Arsia (Released 23 January 2005)
 http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/23/
o Opportunity Rover As Seen From Orbit (Released 24 January 2005)
 http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/24/
o Mars at Ls 145 Degrees (Released 25 January 2005)
 http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/25/
o Chryse "Alien Head" (Released 26 January 2005)
 http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/26/
All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here:
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html
Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been
in Mars orbit since September 1997.   It began its primary
mapping mission on March 8, 1999.  Mars Global Surveyor is the
first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as
the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office
of Space Science, Washington, DC.  Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS)
and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC
using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates
the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion
Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global
Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin
Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

Strike Flinty Rock? Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite Mailing List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

I have grave doubts that anything on the ground was burned because of a
meteorite fall. There is simply no way to get a meteorite to the ground 
hot
without it retaining cosmic velocity, which means you would have a 
cratering
event.
That's true.  Any meteorite that is still ablating when it reaches the 
ground
is traveling at hypervelocity,  and will leave a rather sizeable crater 
upon
impact.  We haven't had such an impact in recorded human history. Most 
meteorites
will have hit the ground from a freefall speed, of less then 200 mph.  So, 
it
is extremely unlikey a meteorite would cause a fire from ablation.

BUT
There is still a couple of other ways a meteorite can cause a fire.  If 
the
meteorite hits something combustible on the ground and causes it to ignite 
or
explode. A gas tank of a car, for example.  Or the fireball appearance 
startles
someone on the ground who knocks over a gas lantern, or drops his lit 
cigarette,
and a fire then ensues.

Ron Baalke
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Re: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!

WoW!!! What a deal!!! save me some Tom! Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dawn & Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!


Hi Jerry and list, I hope you have not sent out the check yet, I only take
paypal! I gave it some thought and don't think it would be fair to the 
other
list members if I sold them all to one member so there is a 5 gram limit.
Also I am dropping the price to $5 a gram so everyone can afford a piece!
So just go to http://www.paypal.com/ and send 5 a gram to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to purchase yours. : )  time is everything 
here,
so get to it!

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
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http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
- Original Message -
From: "Dawn & Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!

OO! OO!OO! sign me up for  the first kilo!
The check's in the mail!! It's only for $45 G's cause I'm ordering bulk
like
at BJ's. Jerry
- Original Message -
From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!
> Hello list, regarding my unmanned Mars mission, still on schedule for
launch
> this weekend, I have finished the rover! I just finished the final 
> test.
> Here is a pic of the rover after collecting a 119 gram meteorite, this
> mission looks good so far, don't hesitate on sending your payment!
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0586.jpg
>
>
> > Hi list, I have been into model rockets for a very long time.  I did 
> > a
lot
> > of thinking and consulting and figured out a way to retrieve Martian
> > meteorites! I am building a rocket and rover that will be launched
from
my
> > back yard this weekend. I am sending my modified RC-10 remote
controlled
> > truck as the rover, it has an arm with a magnet attached that will
collect
> > the meteorites and a sample return capsule that can return 1 kilo of
> > meteorites and land in a predetermined and secret landing spot a few
miles
> > from my home. With the help of Tim the tool man Taylor who modified 
> > my
> > rocket and rover for performance, this entire trip will take only a
week.
> >   If you want one of these meteorites, contact me as soon as 
> > possible,
I
> am
> > sure they will go quick!  I can not be sure of what classification of
> > meteorites will be collected, I can not guarantee what type you will
> > receive, except that it will be a meteorite from the surface of mars.
> Also,
> > the price per gram can not be determined by type, I will just give a
flat
> > rate of $50 per gram. Yes that is cheap, but the mission has cost me 
> > a
> total
> > of 54 bucks so far, the most expensive part is the rover, which I
already
> > had, so you benefit from the savings! You will have to pay up front.
Like
> > all space travel, there will be financial, mechanical and human life
at
> risk
> > so you will be taking a $50 risk to get one of these meteorites, but 
> > I
> think
> > it is a small risk for what you get if the mission goes as planned! 
> > If
> > interested, you can just paypal me at my email address.  Please do
keep
in
> > mind that there is a possibility the mission will not go as planned
and
> > there are no refunds, remember there is always a risk in space 
> > travel!
> > Also, with only 1k available, it will be first to pay, first served!
You
> do
> > not have time to think, just go to paypal and pay me now, you can
always
> > think about it later!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Tom
> > peregrineflier <><
> > IMCA 6168
> > http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] etching irons with ferric chloride solution from radio shack

2005-01-26 Thread Göran Axelsson

I thought that the general idea was chlorine and iron makes rusting 
meteorites.
I wouldn't use it myself. I used some to etch circuit boards in my youth and
if you drop some grains of iron chloride it will pull moisture from the air
until it's completely dissolved.
If you dip an iron into FeCl solution it will be drawn into dry 
fractures and
surfaces and to get it out without electrolysis is probably really slow 
work.

Am I wrong in my speculations? Anyone tested this already?
I use the alcohol and nitric acid etch. Not only because I have it 
handy, but
also to avoid chlorine contaminations.

/Göran
harlan trammell wrote:
i thought i'd try it on a cheap iron- anybody got any pointers on 
swabbing, rinsing , waiting, etc.?!

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[meteorite-list] AD- Official NWA 3133 - The Real Deal !!

Dear list members,
We start the Official NWA 3133 material out at just 99 cents every week on 
ebay and let the market determine the value.  NWA 3133 has several published 
abstracts, is official and its provenance is unquestionable because of 
oxygen isotope testing.  Get a piece of the meteorite that started it all 
and is the only official CV7 in existence, no need for second guessing. We 
have seen too much material that is "close" to the real deal, but no 
comprehensive testing was completed of the others and/or microprobe data has 
proven them not to be paired.

We are currently taking orders for Complete Slices , Part Slices or what 
ever type of specimen you would like. We will cut thin and diamond lap 
polish BOTH sides to meet the high standards set for material from The Hupe 
Collection.

Why buy second guess material when you can have the one that started it all, 
Official NWA 3133! Accepting custom orders now at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
where you will not be disappointed in ANY aspect of the deal.

Best regards,
Greg and Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
naturesvault
meteoritelab
IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] do you like NWA 788?

Hey list, NWA 788 is one of my favorites and I have a 53.4g 96% crusted
individual for sale or trade, it is a nice one!  I like to trade but will
sell it for a reasonable price!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0590.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0589.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0588.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0587.jpg

Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] Ad - NWA 3133 Specimen in Blood's Auction NR

2005-01-26 Thread Adam Hupe

Hi List,

Just a quick note since the subject of NWA 3133 has come up again that there
is a very nice specimen in Michael Blood's auction with no reserve.  Check
out item number 52 on page three.  This material has sold for up to $375.00
a gram in the past before pairings were claimed. We have been starting
specimens out on ebay for over a month at just 99 cents and letting the
market determine the value.  Since the popularity of this piece is
increasing we will list several more specimens soon.  NWA 3133 is the only
officially recognized CV7.  Several abstracts have been published, oxygen
isotope testing has been performed and the provenance is second to none.

Kind Regards,

Adam


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[meteorite-list] New Primative Achondrite paired w/ NWA 3133 Available! Ad

2005-01-26 Thread John Birdsell

Hello everyone...we are looking forward to seeing many of you here at 
the Tucson show and are pleased to announce that we will be offering 
beautiful (and comparatively large) part slices from a newly classifed 
primative achondrite NWA 2643 in the near future at very reasonable 
prices.  NWA 2643 has been provisionally paired with NWA 3133 of which 
we have heard so much hoopla on the list and which one dealer has been 
selling for $375 per gram! We will be offering our slices for a fraction 
of that price! This is a really interesting and unique primative 
achondrite fall in that it has been referred to as the first known "CV7" 
and is thought to have formed through metamorphic or igneous processes 
deep within the parent CV body. For an abstract further describing one 
member of this fall see:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=2004AGUFM.P31C..02I&db_key=AST
If you are interested in adding some of this very unusual primative 
achondrite to your collection at a reasonable price contact us as we are 
taking pre-orders now and can cut to your specifications.

Also, be sure to contact us while you are in Tucson to make arrangements 
to see some of our other spectacular new meteorites including our new 
Chinese Pallasite, several extremely rare and unique new irons and 
numerous other chondrites and achondrites including our planetary NWA 2373.

Cheers

-John & Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites
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[meteorite-list] AD- NWA 2394 - Last pieces for sale Now

Dear list members,
Here are the links to the last 7 pieces of NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia I 
have available. I just listed them on eBay with "Buy-it-Now" under seller, 
naturesvault:

5.7g part slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6508082286&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
5.7g part slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6508082470&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
5.4g end cut
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6508082643&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
3.7g part slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6508082849&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
3.2g end cut
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6508083066&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
1.7g part slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6508083222&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
160mg part slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6508083541&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
Thank you once again for your interest.
Best regards,
Greg
Here is one of only a few specimens left
of a very nice breccia I announced recently:

NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=650418&;
ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Hello Listees, Listoids, and List members,
If you are interested in what I wrote about NWA 2394 after I had got
my 10.5-gram slice from Greg, please see my post dated Tue, Jan 04,
12:14:38 EST 2005.
Pictures and photos just don't this gorgeous meteorite
justice. It is much more beautiful than the pics reveal!
Best wishes,
Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Naturesvault's NWA 2394

Hi Bernd and List members,
Thank you Bernd for the nice critique of a beautiful meteorite, NWA 2394. 
The piece on eBay sold a few minutes ago, leaving only 7 specimens left. I 
will photograph these and put them on eBay with a 5-Day time on these, all 
with But-it-Now since I will be leaving for Tucson next week.

Keep an eye on "naturesvault" over the next few hours, I should be able to 
have these 7 up within a few minutes. If you do not see them right away, 
click on one of the other auctions and then click on "Views Sellers other 
items". That, or do an eBay search for "NWA 2394 meteorite". I will go ahead 
and post direct links to the list also so be sure to check your emails for 
the remaining specimens.

Thanks again to all for your interest.
Best regards,
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
naturesvault
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:01 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Naturesvault's NWA 2394


Here is one of only a few specimens left
of a very nice breccia I announced recently:

NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=650418&;
ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Hello Listees, Listoids, and List members,
If you are interested in what I wrote about NWA 2394 after I had got
my 10.5-gram slice from Greg, please see my post dated Tue, Jan 04,
12:14:38 EST 2005.
Pictures and photos just don't this gorgeous meteorite
justice. It is much more beautiful than the pics reveal!
Best wishes,
Bernd
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[meteorite-list] Naturesvault's NWA 2394

2005-01-26 Thread bernd . pauli

> Here is one of only a few specimens left
> of a very nice breccia I announced recently:

> NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=650418&;
> ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT


Hello Listees, Listoids, and List members,

If you are interested in what I wrote about NWA 2394 after I had got
my 10.5-gram slice from Greg, please see my post dated Tue, Jan 04,
12:14:38 EST 2005.

Pictures and photos just don't this gorgeous meteorite
justice. It is much more beautiful than the pics reveal!


Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] AD - Many Great auctions ending today - Naturesvault

Dear List Members,
I have 34 great eBay auctions ending in just a couple hours at, 
naturesvault.  There are still some starting at just 99 cents.

Here is one of only a few specimens left of a very nice breccia I announced 
recently:

NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=650418&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
To see all items available, please click on the above link and then click on 
"Views Seller's other items", or simply go to eBay and search for items by 
seller, "naturesvault".

Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck.
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
naturesvault
IMCA 2185
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Re: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!

Hi Jerry and list, I hope you have not sent out the check yet, I only take
paypal! I gave it some thought and don't think it would be fair to the other
list members if I sold them all to one member so there is a 5 gram limit.
Also I am dropping the price to $5 a gram so everyone can afford a piece!
So just go to http://www.paypal.com/ and send 5 a gram to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to purchase yours. : )  time is everything here,
so get to it!

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
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http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
- Original Message -
From: "Dawn & Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!


> OO! OO!OO! sign me up for  the first kilo!
> The check's in the mail!! It's only for $45 G's cause I'm ordering bulk
like
> at BJ's. Jerry
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:17 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!
>
>
> > Hello list, regarding my unmanned Mars mission, still on schedule for
> launch
> > this weekend, I have finished the rover! I just finished the final test.
> > Here is a pic of the rover after collecting a 119 gram meteorite, this
> > mission looks good so far, don't hesitate on sending your payment!
> >
> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0586.jpg
> >
> >
> > > Hi list, I have been into model rockets for a very long time.  I did a
> lot
> > > of thinking and consulting and figured out a way to retrieve Martian
> > > meteorites! I am building a rocket and rover that will be launched
from
> my
> > > back yard this weekend. I am sending my modified RC-10 remote
controlled
> > > truck as the rover, it has an arm with a magnet attached that will
> collect
> > > the meteorites and a sample return capsule that can return 1 kilo of
> > > meteorites and land in a predetermined and secret landing spot a few
> miles
> > > from my home. With the help of Tim the tool man Taylor who modified my
> > > rocket and rover for performance, this entire trip will take only a
> week.
> > >   If you want one of these meteorites, contact me as soon as possible,
I
> > am
> > > sure they will go quick!  I can not be sure of what classification of
> > > meteorites will be collected, I can not guarantee what type you will
> > > receive, except that it will be a meteorite from the surface of mars.
> > Also,
> > > the price per gram can not be determined by type, I will just give a
> flat
> > > rate of $50 per gram. Yes that is cheap, but the mission has cost me a
> > total
> > > of 54 bucks so far, the most expensive part is the rover, which I
> already
> > > had, so you benefit from the savings! You will have to pay up front.
> Like
> > > all space travel, there will be financial, mechanical and human life
at
> > risk
> > > so you will be taking a $50 risk to get one of these meteorites, but I
> > think
> > > it is a small risk for what you get if the mission goes as planned! If
> > > interested, you can just paypal me at my email address.  Please do
keep
> in
> > > mind that there is a possibility the mission will not go as planned
and
> > > there are no refunds, remember there is always a risk in space travel!
> > > Also, with only 1k available, it will be first to pay, first served!
You
> > do
> > > not have time to think, just go to paypal and pay me now, you can
always
> > > think about it later!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Tom
> > > peregrineflier <><
> > > IMCA 6168
> > > http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!

2005-01-26 Thread Dawn & Gerald Flaherty

OO! OO!OO! sign me up for  the first kilo!
The check's in the mail!! It's only for $45 G's cause I'm ordering bulk like
at BJ's. Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] mission update rover test!


> Hello list, regarding my unmanned Mars mission, still on schedule for
launch
> this weekend, I have finished the rover! I just finished the final test.
> Here is a pic of the rover after collecting a 119 gram meteorite, this
> mission looks good so far, don't hesitate on sending your payment!
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0586.jpg
>
>
> > Hi list, I have been into model rockets for a very long time.  I did a
lot
> > of thinking and consulting and figured out a way to retrieve Martian
> > meteorites! I am building a rocket and rover that will be launched from
my
> > back yard this weekend. I am sending my modified RC-10 remote controlled
> > truck as the rover, it has an arm with a magnet attached that will
collect
> > the meteorites and a sample return capsule that can return 1 kilo of
> > meteorites and land in a predetermined and secret landing spot a few
miles
> > from my home. With the help of Tim the tool man Taylor who modified my
> > rocket and rover for performance, this entire trip will take only a
week.
> >   If you want one of these meteorites, contact me as soon as possible, I
> am
> > sure they will go quick!  I can not be sure of what classification of
> > meteorites will be collected, I can not guarantee what type you will
> > receive, except that it will be a meteorite from the surface of mars.
> Also,
> > the price per gram can not be determined by type, I will just give a
flat
> > rate of $50 per gram. Yes that is cheap, but the mission has cost me a
> total
> > of 54 bucks so far, the most expensive part is the rover, which I
already
> > had, so you benefit from the savings! You will have to pay up front.
Like
> > all space travel, there will be financial, mechanical and human life at
> risk
> > so you will be taking a $50 risk to get one of these meteorites, but I
> think
> > it is a small risk for what you get if the mission goes as planned! If
> > interested, you can just paypal me at my email address.  Please do keep
in
> > mind that there is a possibility the mission will not go as planned and
> > there are no refunds, remember there is always a risk in space travel!
> > Also, with only 1k available, it will be first to pay, first served! You
> do
> > not have time to think, just go to paypal and pay me now, you can always
> > think about it later!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Tom
> > peregrineflier <><
> > IMCA 6168
> > http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> >
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite forum

2005-01-26 Thread Lars Pedersen

Hello List
As a suplement to this list, a new forum has been made.
http://www.worldofmeteorites.com/
Have a look at it, come with coments, sugestions etc , maybe even become a 
part of it and contribute with questions or answers.

Bernhard has been the brain, and I should try to act as admin.
Again it is not meant as an alternative, but as a suplement to this list.
Mest wishes
Lars Pedersen 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

> 
> I have grave doubts that anything on the ground was burned because of a 
> meteorite fall. There is simply no way to get a meteorite to the ground hot 
> without it retaining cosmic velocity, which means you would have a cratering 
> event.

That's true.  Any meteorite that is still ablating when it reaches the ground
is traveling at hypervelocity,  and will leave a rather sizeable crater upon
impact.  We haven't had such an impact in recorded human history. Most 
meteorites
will have hit the ground from a freefall speed, of less then 200 mph.  So, it 
is extremely unlikey a meteorite would cause a fire from ablation.

BUT

There is still a couple of other ways a meteorite can cause a fire.  If the
meteorite hits something combustible on the ground and causes it to ignite or
explode. A gas tank of a car, for example.  Or the fireball appearance startles
someone on the ground who knocks over a gas lantern, or drops his lit 
cigarette, 
and a fire then ensues.

Ron Baalke

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[meteorite-list] etching irons with ferric chloride solution from radio shack

2005-01-26 Thread harlan trammell

i thought i'd try it on a cheap iron- anybody got any pointers on swabbing, rinsing , waiting, etc.?!
i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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[meteorite-list] mission update rover test!

Hello list, regarding my unmanned Mars mission, still on schedule for launch
this weekend, I have finished the rover! I just finished the final test.
Here is a pic of the rover after collecting a 119 gram meteorite, this
mission looks good so far, don't hesitate on sending your payment!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0586.jpg


> Hi list, I have been into model rockets for a very long time.  I did a lot
> of thinking and consulting and figured out a way to retrieve Martian
> meteorites! I am building a rocket and rover that will be launched from my
> back yard this weekend. I am sending my modified RC-10 remote controlled
> truck as the rover, it has an arm with a magnet attached that will collect
> the meteorites and a sample return capsule that can return 1 kilo of
> meteorites and land in a predetermined and secret landing spot a few miles
> from my home. With the help of Tim the tool man Taylor who modified my
> rocket and rover for performance, this entire trip will take only a week.
>   If you want one of these meteorites, contact me as soon as possible, I
am
> sure they will go quick!  I can not be sure of what classification of
> meteorites will be collected, I can not guarantee what type you will
> receive, except that it will be a meteorite from the surface of mars.
Also,
> the price per gram can not be determined by type, I will just give a flat
> rate of $50 per gram. Yes that is cheap, but the mission has cost me a
total
> of 54 bucks so far, the most expensive part is the rover, which I already
> had, so you benefit from the savings! You will have to pay up front. Like
> all space travel, there will be financial, mechanical and human life at
risk
> so you will be taking a $50 risk to get one of these meteorites, but I
think
> it is a small risk for what you get if the mission goes as planned! If
> interested, you can just paypal me at my email address.  Please do keep in
> mind that there is a possibility the mission will not go as planned and
> there are no refunds, remember there is always a risk in space travel!
> Also, with only 1k available, it will be first to pay, first served! You
do
> not have time to think, just go to paypal and pay me now, you can always
> think about it later!
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks, Tom
> peregrineflier <><
> IMCA 6168
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
>
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[meteorite-list] Money making Scheme, mars rocks 4 sale!

Hi list, I have been into model rockets for a very long time.  I did a lot
of thinking and consulting and figured out a way to retrieve Martian
meteorites! I am building a rocket and rover that will be launched from my
back yard this weekend. I am sending my modified RC-10 remote controlled
truck as the rover, it has an arm with a magnet attached that will collect
the meteorites and a sample return capsule that can return 1 kilo of
meteorites and land in a predetermined and secret landing spot a few miles
from my home. With the help of Tim the tool man Taylor who modified my
rocket and rover for performance, this entire trip will take only a week.
  If you want one of these meteorites, contact me as soon as possible, I am
sure they will go quick!  I can not be sure of what classification of
meteorites will be collected, I can not guarantee what type you will
receive, except that it will be a meteorite from the surface of mars. Also,
the price per gram can not be determined by type, I will just give a flat
rate of $50 per gram. Yes that is cheap, but the mission has cost me a total
of 54 bucks so far, the most expensive part is the rover, which I already
had, so you benefit from the savings! You will have to pay up front. Like
all space travel, there will be financial, mechanical and human life at risk
so you will be taking a $50 risk to get one of these meteorites, but I think
it is a small risk for what you get if the mission goes as planned! If
interested, you can just paypal me at my email address.  Please do keep in
mind that there is a possibility the mission will not go as planned and
there are no refunds, remember there is always a risk in space travel!
Also, with only 1k available, it will be first to pay, first served! You do
not have time to think, just go to paypal and pay me now, you can always
think about it later!





Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT: latest asteroid naming batch

2005-01-26 Thread David Hardy

I saw recently where "Hitchhiker's" will be coming out in a movie next summer. 
Should be better than the BBC's series!

DH


--- "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Thought I'd share this as I know a number of you are fans of the author.
> I'm very pleased to report that _Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe_ author
> Douglas Adams has had an asteroid named after him in this month's Minor
> Planet Center naming batch:
> 
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6867061
> 
> While visiting Boston a year and half ago, I stopped in to see Brian Marsden
> and most of the primary staff at the MPC at Harvard.  Among the things we
> talked about were some deserving people who had not yet been honored with
> an asteroid namesake.  Douglas Adams was on my short list (and/or some of
> his more colorful book characters).  As mentioned in the article above,
> Arthur Dent had already been taken care of -- just days before Adams died
> of a heart attack at the young age of 49.
> 
> I'm especially overjoyed by the choice of asteroid for Adams.  The asteroid
> itself isn't anything special or out of the ordinary, but its preliminary
> designation is tailor-made for Adams:  2001 DA42.  (He died in 2001, and
> anyone who has read the books knows the significance of the number 42 -- the
> ultimate answer to the question of life, the universe and everything!)
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob
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[meteorite-list] Slightly OT: latest asteroid naming batch

2005-01-26 Thread Matson, Robert

Hi All,

Thought I'd share this as I know a number of you are fans of the author.
I'm very pleased to report that _Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe_ author
Douglas Adams has had an asteroid named after him in this month's Minor
Planet Center naming batch:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6867061

While visiting Boston a year and half ago, I stopped in to see Brian Marsden
and most of the primary staff at the MPC at Harvard.  Among the things we
talked about were some deserving people who had not yet been honored with
an asteroid namesake.  Douglas Adams was on my short list (and/or some of
his more colorful book characters).  As mentioned in the article above,
Arthur Dent had already been taken care of -- just days before Adams died
of a heart attack at the young age of 49.

I'm especially overjoyed by the choice of asteroid for Adams.  The asteroid
itself isn't anything special or out of the ordinary, but its preliminary
designation is tailor-made for Adams:  2001 DA42.  (He died in 2001, and
anyone who has read the books knows the significance of the number 42 -- the
ultimate answer to the question of life, the universe and everything!)

Cheers,
Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

2005-01-26 Thread Chris Peterson

I have grave doubts that anything on the ground was burned because of a 
meteorite fall. There is simply no way to get a meteorite to the ground hot 
without it retaining cosmic velocity, which means you would have a cratering 
event.

Chris
*
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From: "Manoj Pai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mark ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia


3 inches is the most likely. Sometimes they are about
6 inches under water, but the stalk, ear and the paddy
are well above the water. (The plants are not entirely
submurged under water.) Maybe these were the ones that
caught fire.
We had a similar fall of the Kendrapara meteorite, in
Orissa in 2003. One of the meteorite fell in a paddy
field and burt just a handful of paddy.
I hope the mud hasn't penetrated deep into the
specimen. I wonder which institute in Combodia is
going to examine the meteorite. Any ideas folks?
Wishes
Manoj
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Re: [meteorite-list] 'Shooting Stars' On Mars: Messages From A Meteorite

Hi list, I have been into model rockets for a very long time.  I did a lot
of thinking and consulting and figured out a way to retrieve Martian
meteorites! I am building a rocket and rover that will be launched from my
back yard this weekend. I am sending my modified RC-10 remote controlled
truck as the rover, it has an arm with a magnet attached that will collect
the meteorites and a sample return capsule that can return 1 kilo of
meteorites and land in a predetermined and secret landing spot a few miles
from my home. With the help of Tim the tool man Taylor who modified my
rocket and rover for performance, this entire trip will take only a week.
  If you want one of these meteorites, contact me as soon as possible, I am
sure they will go quick!  I can not be sure of what classification of
meteorites will be collected, I can not guarantee what type you will
receive, except that it will be a meteorite from the surface of mars. Also,
the price per gram can not be determined by type, I will just give a flat
rate of $50 per gram. Yes that is cheap, but the mission has cost me a total
of 54 bucks so far, the most expensive part is the rover, which I already
had, so you benefit from the savings! You will have to pay up front. Like
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 'Shooting Stars' On Mars: Messages From A
Meteorite


>
>
> http://space.com/missionlaunches/mars_meteorites_050126.html
>
> 'Shooting Stars' On Mars: Messages From A Meteorite
> By Leonard David
> space.com
> 26 January 2005
>
> NASA's Opportunity Mars rover has completed its inspection of "Heat
> Shield Rock" -- an iron meteorite the robot came across at Meridiani
> Planum, a cratered flatland that the machine has called home since
> landing on the red planet over a year ago.
>
> The pitted, basketball-size meteorite is mostly made of iron and nickel,
> as detected by the rover's set of onboard spectrometers -- devices that
> map the presence of different elements on the surface of Mars.
>
> Meteors, often called "shooting stars" have been seen blazing through
> the Martian sky by both Opportunity and its sister ship, Spirit, now
> rolling through the Columbia Hills at Gusev Crater.
>
> But finding the meteorite was a surprise to scientists running the dual
> Mars Exploration Rover effort. The researchers now wonder just how
> prolific meteorites might be, perhaps sitting there strewn across the
> expanse of Meridiani Planum.
>
> Sitting there a very long time
>
> "We're done with the meteorite," said Steve Squyres from Cornell
> University, and the leader of the science team for the Mars Exploration
> Rover (MER) mission.
>
> Squyres told SPACE.com that further study of nearby entry shield
> hardware that slammed onto Mars during Opportunity's landing is on tap,
> followed by setting sail to the south toward a circular feature called
> "Vostok".
>
> Discovering the meteorite has raised some speculation it might have been
> dislodged from a different locale -- "unmarsed" so to speak -- and
> tossed to its present position by the high-speed impact of Opportunity's
> entry shield, but Squyres said there was "no morphologic evidence for
> disturbance of soil around the meteorite."
>
> "It has been sitting there a very long time," Squyres said.
>
> Difficult questions to answer
>
> There are a number of things that make the meteorite find a very
> scientifically interesting and important find, said planetary geologist,
> Bradley Jolliff of Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri and a
> MER science team member.
>
> "From the well-preserved shape and form of cuspate marks and
> 'thumb-print'-like cavities, it is possible to say something about the
> velocity and atmospheric effects that this meteorite experienced when it
> fell," Jolliff said.
>
> How fast the meteorite struck Mars, and just how thick was the martian
> atmosphere during its fall are difficult questions to answer. "But
> careful study will likely provide some constraints. The external shapes
> and overall morphology suggest that this was not a piece broken off from
> a larger object, but that this is the entire meteorite," Jolliff told
> SPACE.com.

[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - January 20-26, 2005


MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
January 20-26, 2005

The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:

o Dark Polar Dunes (Released 20 January 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/20/

o Becquerel's Sediment (Released 21 January 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/21/

o North Polar Dunes (Released 22 January 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/22/

o Layers Below Arsia (Released 23 January 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/23/

o Opportunity Rover As Seen From Orbit (Released 24 January 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/24/

o Mars at Ls 145 Degrees (Released 25 January 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/25/

o Chryse "Alien Head" (Released 26 January 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/26/


All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here:

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html

Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been
in Mars orbit since September 1997.   It began its primary
mapping mission on March 8, 1999.  Mars Global Surveyor is the 
first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as 
the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office
of Space Science, Washington, DC.  Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS)
and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC
using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates
the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion
Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global
Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin
Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO.

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RE: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

2005-01-26 Thread WAHLPERRY



Hi Dirk,

"There is no argument for a meteorite causing a
fire."

I read your comments about a meteorite causing a fire. Can this really happen? 
Last summer there were a couple of reports of a fireball or meteor going down 
in a area east of Vegas. All the reports put this in the same area. The 
following day a fire was discovered in the same area . The fire burned for a 
week.There was lighting in the area 4-5 days prior to the fire. Who knows there 
may be a new Nevada meteorite waiting to be picked up! 



Sonny

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[meteorite-list] 'Shooting Stars' On Mars: Messages From A Meteorite



http://space.com/missionlaunches/mars_meteorites_050126.html

'Shooting Stars' On Mars: Messages From A Meteorite
By Leonard David 
space.com
26 January 2005

NASA's Opportunity Mars rover has completed its inspection of "Heat
Shield Rock" -- an iron meteorite the robot came across at Meridiani
Planum, a cratered flatland that the machine has called home since
landing on the red planet over a year ago.

The pitted, basketball-size meteorite is mostly made of iron and nickel,
as detected by the rover's set of onboard spectrometers -- devices that
map the presence of different elements on the surface of Mars.

Meteors, often called "shooting stars" have been seen blazing through
the Martian sky by both Opportunity and its sister ship, Spirit, now
rolling through the Columbia Hills at Gusev Crater.

But finding the meteorite was a surprise to scientists running the dual
Mars Exploration Rover effort. The researchers now wonder just how
prolific meteorites might be, perhaps sitting there strewn across the
expanse of Meridiani Planum.

Sitting there a very long time

"We're done with the meteorite," said Steve Squyres from Cornell
University, and the leader of the science team for the Mars Exploration
Rover (MER) mission.

Squyres told SPACE.com that further study of nearby entry shield
hardware that slammed onto Mars during Opportunity's landing is on tap,
followed by setting sail to the south toward a circular feature called
"Vostok". 

Discovering the meteorite has raised some speculation it might have been
dislodged from a different locale -- "unmarsed" so to speak -- and
tossed to its present position by the high-speed impact of Opportunity's
entry shield, but Squyres said there was "no morphologic evidence for
disturbance of soil around the meteorite."

"It has been sitting there a very long time," Squyres said.

Difficult questions to answer

There are a number of things that make the meteorite find a very
scientifically interesting and important find, said planetary geologist,
Bradley Jolliff of Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri and a
MER science team member.

"From the well-preserved shape and form of cuspate marks and
'thumb-print'-like cavities, it is possible to say something about the
velocity and atmospheric effects that this meteorite experienced when it
fell," Jolliff said.

How fast the meteorite struck Mars, and just how thick was the martian
atmosphere during its fall are difficult questions to answer. "But
careful study will likely provide some constraints. The external shapes
and overall morphology suggest that this was not a piece broken off from
a larger object, but that this is the entire meteorite," Jolliff told
SPACE.com.

Recent event or ancient?

Rover scientists are also studying the microscopic images of the
meteorite taken by Opportunity. They're on the lookout for any features
that might record the level of shock experienced when the object hit the
surface to help bracket possible velocity ranges, Jolliff said.

"We can look for any tell-tale signs of an impact to determine if
perhaps this was a recent event or an ancient one," Jolliff
explained. "It may be that this meteorite has been buried and re-exhumed
by inflation and deflation of the Meridiani surface regolith over time."

Important questions: If the meteorite is very old, is the external
surface weathered or oxidized? Also, what has been the interplay between
the meteorite and possible weathering and abrasion by wind-blown sand
particles? 

Ground-truth learning tool

Scientists are taking a hard look at the nooks and crannies of the
object using Opportunity imagery and other data. By inspecting different
parts of the meteorite's surface and its "protected" hollows, the tale
of what reactions have occurred between the metal and the thin martian
atmosphere may be gleaned. 

"In this case, study of the meteorite is providing clues about the
surface and atmosphere of Mars," Jolliff added. Close-up exam of the
object by the rover's camera and Mini-Thermal Emission Spectrometer
(Mini-TES) has meant giving them a sort of a ground-truth learning tool,
he said.

"Now we can recognize these objects, which might be common on the
Meridiani surface, without having to drive up close to them. Their
spectral signature and contrast are quite unique," Jolliff explained.

Fascinating place to explore

Opportunity's discovery of the meteorite is a very important scientific
find for another reason.

"Consider the Apollo samples from the Moon. With the exception of a few
very tiny bits of meteorite and meteoritic metal, there have been no
'large' meteorites found," Jolliff recalled. "Of course, there is no
atmosphere to slow them down. Yet we suspect that they must be
plentiful, even if small, and one day, when we can sample and analyze
[lunar] surface materials routinely, we will likely find lots of them."

They may represent a different "sampling" of meteorite populations in
space and time, Jolliff continued, "and thus give us

Re: [meteorite-list] NPA 07-04-1939 Scientists Cant Find Washougal Meteorite

2005-01-26 Thread Martinh

Hi Mark,
Thanks for the articles on Washougal.
For those interested, I have a very nice small fragment of Washougal 
offered in Michael Blood's Tucson auction (with no reserve).

You can view this rarity at:
http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionOLCat6.html
Just scroll down to item number MH-129. Or better yet, explore the 
other specimens up for auction along the way.

With a total weight of only 225 grams, a piece of Washougal of any size 
should be a welcome addition to any collection.

Cheers,
Martin


On Jan 26, 2005, at 10:03 AM, MARK BOSTICK wrote:
Paper: Nevada State Journal
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Tuesday, July 4, 1939
Page: 1 (of 10)
Explosion Which Rocked Portland Was Meteor, but Scientists Can't Find 
It

PORTLAND, Ore., July 3. (UP) - A terrific explosion which rocks 
Portland and neighboring cities early Sunday was identified Monday as 
a meteor, but definite conclusions may not be drawn for perhaps 
another year.
A wide variety of guesses - ranging from belief that a power cache 
had exploded to hints of a bombing - narrowed down Monday to 
eyewitnesses accounts of a heavenly body streaking across the sky and 
disappearing to the northwest.
   Bend, Eugene and Portland accounts of the "fireball" apparently 
confirmed the meteor theory.
Astronomical observers, however, pointed out it might be another 
year before the meteor, which apparently exploded in mid-air, could be 
found.
   The explosion was believed to have taken place fifty miles 
northeast of Portland. Residents of Woodland, Wash., said a black 
cloud was observed rising out of the Cascades Mountains northeast of 
the community.

(end)
The Portland Meteor is the Washougal meteorite. This meteorite fell 
July 2, 1939 in Clark County, Washington at 7:35 a.m. A single stone, 
225 grams, is all that was recovered.

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick

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RE: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

2005-01-26 Thread Manoj Pai

3 inches is the most likely. Sometimes they are about
6 inches under water, but the stalk, ear and the paddy
are well above the water. (The plants are not entirely
submurged under water.) Maybe these were the ones that
caught fire.

We had a similar fall of the Kendrapara meteorite, in
Orissa in 2003. One of the meteorite fell in a paddy
field and burt just a handful of paddy.

I hope the mud hasn't penetrated deep into the
specimen. I wonder which institute in Combodia is
going to examine the meteorite. Any ideas folks?

Wishes

Manoj
--- mark ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> How the hell do you set fire to a rice field? Aren't
> they under 3ft of
> water??
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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RE: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

2005-01-26 Thread drtanuki

Dear Mark and List,
   During this season it is the dry season in that
part of Cambodia, as well as much of S.E. Asia.  The
rice crop is about ready for harvest; and therefore
the paddies would be dry.
   There is no argument for a meteorite causing a
fire.  Perhaps there is another reason for the fire
following the "fall", if indeed there was a fall. 
Slash and burn agriculture is common in this area; and
at this time of year many areas are burnt to clear the
land of trees/shrubs and harvested crops.  Also in
this area sugarcane is harvested by burning the leaves
from the cane prior to harvest.
   Peoples in this area, as well as many rural areas
of S.E. Asia (Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, etc.), are
very superstitious.  Any news of an unusual or strange
event would spread by word-of-mouth like wildfire and
could have been easily distorted before reaching the
press. 
   Wait and see if anything comes of this fall.  I
will not return to the area for another month or more,
so I cannot investigate myself.
   I hope that this answers some of your questions. 
BTW: Rainy season starts in mid-April to early May.  
Sincerely,  Dirk Ross...Tokyo



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[meteorite-list] NPA 02-21-1947 Sikhote-Alin Meteorite Fall

Paper: Daily Gleaner
City: Kingston, Surrey, Jamaica
Date: Friday, February 21, 1947
Page: Friday, 10 (of 20)
MOSCOW, Feb. 20. - The Press said a huge meteorite fell near Vla 
islands February 17. It said the meteorite was headed towards the foothills 
of the Sikhote-Alin mountain chain running along the coast of the Sea of 
Japan and the Tatar Straits. its fall was accompanied by a noise like 
thunder, a clap, and terrific concussion with a trail of brownish smoke. The 
dispath said tremendous trees were bent and broken, some even tore up by the 
roots.

(end)
Pretty shortbut the ealiest Sikhote-Alin report I have found to date.
Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
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[meteorite-list] NPA 07-05-1939 Washougal Meteorite Report

Paper: Syracuse Herald
City: Syracuse, New York
Date: Wednesday, July 5, 1939
Page: 12
PORTLAND METEOR
A mighty explosion rocked Portland, Ore., Sunday morning, shaking 
buildings, rattling dishes and alarming thousands of people who were 
awakened when their beds went haywire or at least vibrated enough to make 
the occupants suspect that July 4 disturbers were setting off giant 
firecracker beneath them.
Indeed, it seems probable that more superstitious people along the 
Pacific Coast may have concluded that the gods, anticipating the American 
Fourth, were tossing mammoth torpedoes.
Subsequent investigations seems to have established that the early 
morning commotion was caused by a huge meteor that suddenly shot in from 
some heavenly fireworks factory and exploded in the desolate Wind River 
section about 40 miles northwest of Portland.
The Associated Press says that "scores of persons" say they "looked 
skyward in time to see a vast burst of smoke and spurting flame," the earth 
shimmying simultaneously. A druggist at Eugene, Ore., 100 miles south of 
Portland, says he saw the meteor, which he describes as being "big as the 
moon."
Although scientists have not had time to make a check on the stories 
and conduct investigations in the Wind River neighborhood, the exploding 
meteor theory of the reverberations that hit Portland seems to be 
substantiated by the fact that the seismograph at the University of 
Washington at Seattle did not register any earthquake or ground shock.
Study may prove that the Portland affair was a small-scale repetition 
of the incident that occurred several thousand years ago in the Arizona 
desert when a large mass of meteorites or a comet plunged into the earth and 
exploded. The gaping hole left by that cataclysm can be observed ear Winslow 
today. It is know as the Meteor Crater and is three miles in circumference, 
nearly a mile across and 570 feet deep. There is an excellent photograph of 
this phenomenon in the July issue of the National Geographic Magazine.

(end)
The Portland Meteor is the Washougal meteorite. This meteorite fell July 
2, 1939 in Clark County, Washington at 7:35 a.m. A single stone, 225 grams, 
is all that was recovered.

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
Wichita, Kansas
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[meteorite-list] NPA 07-05-1939 Washougal Meteorite Creates Interest

Paper: Reno Evening Gazette
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Wednesday, July 5, 1939
Page: 4 (of 16)
PORTLAND'S METEOR
THE METEOR which burst in the air near Portland, Ore., has revived the 
public interest in this type of celestial visitor and has kept the 
scientists busy explaining that as far as the record goes no one has ever 
been killed or injured by meteorites, as the fragments of bursting meteors 
are called. Indeed, as compared with lightning, which is an earthly 
phenomenon, not a heavenly visitor, the element of danger is practically 
non-existent.
One of the first recorded falls of meteorites took place in China about 
644 B.C., and other strange fragments which fell from the sky are recorded 
by Plutarch and Pliny as objects of worship. The stone referred to in the 
Acts as the image of Diana of the Ephesians, which "fell down from Jupiter," 
is believed to have been a meteoric stone, as is doubtless the sacred stone 
built into the Kaaba at Mecca.
The largest meteorite on display is that brought back from Cape York, 
Greenland, by Commander Robert E. Peary, which weighs some thirty-six tons. 
A large crater-like depression near Canyon Diablo in Arizona, a mile across 
and some 550 feet deep, is believed to have been made by a meteor in some 
prehistoric day.
The interest of science in meteorites particularly is that of 
determining the identity of rocks and minerals from the regions of outer 
space, but to date no new element has been found in them. On the other hand 
some common elements, including the strongly radioactive ones, have yet to 
be definitely detected. These visitors from outer space bombard the earth at 
fairly frequent intervals, many more than are recorded, since some of them 
burst about the sea or the uninhabited regions, but so far their mission 
seems to be a beneficent one. Nature seems to have arranged for dissipating 
their force before these "shrapnel: shells from outer space reach the 
earth's surface.

(end)
The Portland Meteor is the Washougal meteorite. This meteorite fell July 
2, 1939 in Clark County, Washington at 7:35 a.m. A single stone, 225 grams, 
is all that was recovered.

Clear Skies,
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Wichita, Kansas
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[meteorite-list] NPA 07-04-1939 Scientists Cant Find Washougal Meteorite

Paper: Nevada State Journal
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Tuesday, July 4, 1939
Page: 1 (of 10)
Explosion Which Rocked Portland Was Meteor, but Scientists Can't Find It
PORTLAND, Ore., July 3. (UP) - A terrific explosion which rocks 
Portland and neighboring cities early Sunday was identified Monday as a 
meteor, but definite conclusions may not be drawn for perhaps another year.
A wide variety of guesses - ranging from belief that a power cache had 
exploded to hints of a bombing - narrowed down Monday to eyewitnesses 
accounts of a heavenly body streaking across the sky and disappearing to the 
northwest.
   Bend, Eugene and Portland accounts of the "fireball" apparently 
confirmed the meteor theory.
Astronomical observers, however, pointed out it might be another year 
before the meteor, which apparently exploded in mid-air, could be found.
   The explosion was believed to have taken place fifty miles northeast of 
Portland. Residents of Woodland, Wash., said a black cloud was observed 
rising out of the Cascades Mountains northeast of the community.

(end)
The Portland Meteor is the Washougal meteorite. This meteorite fell July 
2, 1939 in Clark County, Washington at 7:35 a.m. A single stone, 225 grams, 
is all that was recovered.

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
Wichita, Kansas
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[meteorite-list] NPA 07-03-1939 Washougal Meteorite Jolts Portland

Paper: Reno Evening Gazette
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Monday, July 3, 1939
Page: 1 (of 12)
Portland Jolted by Blast From Sky; Scientists Hunt For Fragments of Meteor
Large Area Rocked Early Yesterday by Huge Explosion Which Broke Windows, 
Cracked Wells; Flames Seen For Many Miles

PORTLAND, Ore. July 3 (AP) - Portland, jolted and terrified by an 
apparent exploding meteor, joined science in a search for fragments of the 
celestial visitor today.

BLINDED BY FLAMES
The Portland area and southwestern Washington were rocked at 7:58 a.m., 
yesterday by the mammoth explosion and blinded by flames flashing from the 
sky. Reports of the blast came in from as far away as Arlington, 126 miles 
up the Columbia river.
J. Hugh Pruett, University of Oregon astronomer and Oregon 
representative of the American Meteorological Association, sifted reports of 
the object's trajectory as hundreds of amateurs took to the field in efforts 
to find meteorites - fragments of the heavenly body.
Pruett said it probably would be two weeks before he could determine 
just where the explosion occurred.
Portland residents, however, will swear it was right over the city. A 
stone wall toppled, windows were broken, a store wall cracked and a rural 
mail box knocked loose from its post by the force of the blast.

TAIL OF FIRE
Witnesses said the object flashed across the sky from the southward, 
trailing a tail of fire, just before the explosion. Hundreds of persons 
verified that the burst of smoke and flame appeared to be over the northern 
section of the city or the Columbia river at a height of about 5000 feet.
First person to sight the projectile was Ford Hand, Eugene druggist. He 
said it looked "big as a moon" as it passed over Eugene, 100 miles south of 
here. It made no noise there. Indicating to Pruett it was more than fifty 
miles high. Numerous others in the Willamette Valley saw it, trailing flame, 
before it exploded.
The first blast was followed by a

THE METEOR which burst in the air near Portland, Ore., has revived the 
public interest in this type of celestial visitor and has kept the 
scientists busy explaining that as far as the record goes no one has ever 
been killed or injured by meteorites, as the fragments of bursting meteors 
are called. Indeed, as compared with lightning, which is an earthly 
phenomenon, not a heavenly visitor, the element of danger is practically 
non-existent.
One of the first recorded falls of meteorites took place in China about 
644 B.C., and other strange fragments which fell from the sky are recorded 
by Plutarch and Pliny as objects of worship. The stone referred to in the 
Acts as the image of Diana of the Ephesians, which "fell down from Jupiter," 
is believed to have been a meteoric stone, as is doubtless the sacred stone 
built into the Kaaba at Mecca.
The largest meteorite on display is that brought back from Cape York, 
Greenland, by Commander Robert E. Peary, which weighs some thirty-six tons. 
A large crater-like depression near Canyon Diablo in Arizona, a mile across 
and some 550 feet deep, is believed to have been made by a meteor in some 
prehistoric day.
The interest of science in meteorites particularly is that of 
determining the identity of rocks and minerals from the regions of outer 
space, but to date no new element has been found in them. On the other hand 
some common elements, including the strongly radioactive ones, have yet to 
be definitely detected. These visitors from outer space bombard the earth at 
fairly frequent intervals, many more than are recorded, since some of them 
burst about the sea or the uninhabited regions, but so far their mission 
seems to be a beneficent one. Nature seems to have arranged for dissipating 
their force before these "shrapnel: shells from outer space reach the 
earth's surface

(end)
Paper: Reno Evening Gazette
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Monday, July 3, 1939
Page: 2 (of 12)
diminishing series of rumbles fasting approximately thirty seconds.
Concussion of the explosion was felt within a forty-mile radius of 
motorist, Mr. and Mrs. C. P. Adkison of Eugene and Mr. and Mrs. O. S. 
Peterson of Sunnyside, Wash., said they saw the phenomenon and heard the 
explosion while traveling near Arlington, on the Columbia river highway.
G. A. Wilkander, amateur astronomer here, estimated the smoke from the 
explosion was sixty degrees above the horizon and 15 to 20 degrees east of 
the North Pole.

SCIENTISTS COMMENT
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. July 3 (AP) Harvard University scientists, reading 
reports of an exploding meteor heard over the Pacific northwest yesterday, 
said today it was "highly probably something fell to earth" but that a year 
might elapse before it was found.
They doubted the celestial visitor bust at 5000 feet, as suggest by 
some witnesses, and said instead it more likely exploded fifteen or twenty 
miles up. The noise of other exploding meteors has been heard sixty to 
sev

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RE: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia

2005-01-26 Thread mark ford


How the hell do you set fire to a rice field? Aren't they under 3ft of
water??



Mark


-Original Message-
From: Ron Baalke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:57 PM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia



http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-01/26/content_2511399.htm

Suspected meteorite hits Cambodia
China View
January 26, 2005

PHNOM PENH, Jan. 26 (Xinhuanet) -- A rock weight of about 4.5 kg
fell into rice fields on Monday morning in Cambodia's border province
Banteay Meanchey causing a fire across paddy fields, local media
reported on Wednesday.

A hole of 30 cm depth was left by the little bit black-colored rock
which local people suspected as a meteorite. And the picture of the rock
was published at the front pages of local newspapers Wednesday.

According to police chief Sok Sareth, the rock was handed over to
police waiting examination by experts.

The rock was discovered by the villagers on early Monday morning at
about seven o'clock when they heard a tremendous noise like a bomb
exploding.

Banteay Meanchey province locates more than 300 km northwest ofthe
capital Phnom Penh.

No people was hurt. "It was lucky that it did not land in the
village or people could have been killed," Sok Sareth was quoted as
saying. 

-

http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_1652621,00.htm
l

Meteor narrowly misses village
news24.com (South Africa)
January 26, 2005

Phnom Penh - A 4.5kg suspected meteorite has landed in rice fields in
northwestern Cambodia, narrowly avoiding a nearby village, police said
on Wednesday.

"The rock fell on a harvested rice field from the sky on Monday
morning," said Sok Sareth, police chief of Banteay Meanchey province,
which borders Thailand.

"According to the villagers who live nearby, it came very quickly from
the sky and made a noise like a bomb exploding. It dug about 40
centimetres into the ground," he said.

"The rock is a little bit black and was hot, and looks strange compared
to other rocks... It was lucky that it did not land in the village or
people could have been killed," he said, adding experts would examine
the rock.

Pictures of the lump were splashed across the front pages of local
newspapers on Wednesday.

Sok Sareth said some villagers reportedly wanted to turn it into a
shrine.

"Nobody has asked for it yet, but I have been told some villagers said
that they want to put it on a shrine to pray to it, but we won't allow
them to do that. It's useless," he said.

Cambodians, particularly in rural areas, are typically superstitious.

-


http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=660805

Meteorite sparks fires and prayers in Cambodia
Reuters
January 26, 2005

PHNOM PENH (Reuters) - A 4.5 kg (10 lb) meteorite which landed in a
former Khmer Rouge zone of northwest Cambodia has started fires across
rice fields and prayers from villagers who saw it as a divine omen of
peace.

"Some farmers are angry with the rock because it caused fires and
destroyed several hundred hectares of their paddy fields," said Sok
Sareth, police chief of Banteay Meanchey province, around 200 miles
northwest of the capital, Phnom Penh.

"But others asked the police to leave it where it landed and put it on
shrine to pray for peace," he told Reuters on Wednesday.

The black lump of celestial rock sent villagers scurrying for cover when
it thumped into the ground in the war-scarred southeast Asian nation on
Monday morning.

"It made a noise like a bomb exploding," Sok Sareth said. "It's a good
thing it didn't land in the village or people could have been killed."

Pictures of the meteorite were splashed across newspapers in the
capital, but the item itself has been carried away by police pending
scientific analysis.

Initial investigations by explosives experts still clearing the bombs
and mines left behind from Cambodia's years of civil war against Pol
Pot's guerrillas have not yielded many results.

"I asked my friend who works as deminer, but he has no idea what the
rock is," Sok Sareth said.


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[meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Falls in Cambodia



http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-01/26/content_2511399.htm

Suspected meteorite hits Cambodia
China View
January 26, 2005

PHNOM PENH, Jan. 26 (Xinhuanet) -- A rock weight of about 4.5 kg
fell into rice fields on Monday morning in Cambodia's border province
Banteay Meanchey causing a fire across paddy fields, local media
reported on Wednesday.

A hole of 30 cm depth was left by the little bit black-colored rock
which local people suspected as a meteorite. And the picture of the rock
was published at the front pages of local newspapers Wednesday.

According to police chief Sok Sareth, the rock was handed over to
police waiting examination by experts.

The rock was discovered by the villagers on early Monday morning at
about seven o'clock when they heard a tremendous noise like a bomb
exploding.

Banteay Meanchey province locates more than 300 km northwest ofthe
capital Phnom Penh.

No people was hurt. "It was lucky that it did not land in the
village or people could have been killed," Sok Sareth was quoted as
saying. 

-

http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_1652621,00.html

Meteor narrowly misses village
news24.com (South Africa)
January 26, 2005

Phnom Penh - A 4.5kg suspected meteorite has landed in rice fields in
northwestern Cambodia, narrowly avoiding a nearby village, police said
on Wednesday.

"The rock fell on a harvested rice field from the sky on Monday
morning," said Sok Sareth, police chief of Banteay Meanchey province,
which borders Thailand.

"According to the villagers who live nearby, it came very quickly from
the sky and made a noise like a bomb exploding. It dug about 40
centimetres into the ground," he said.

"The rock is a little bit black and was hot, and looks strange compared
to other rocks... It was lucky that it did not land in the village or
people could have been killed," he said, adding experts would examine
the rock.

Pictures of the lump were splashed across the front pages of local
newspapers on Wednesday.

Sok Sareth said some villagers reportedly wanted to turn it into a shrine.

"Nobody has asked for it yet, but I have been told some villagers said
that they want to put it on a shrine to pray to it, but we won't allow
them to do that. It's useless," he said.

Cambodians, particularly in rural areas, are typically superstitious.

-


http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=660805

Meteorite sparks fires and prayers in Cambodia
Reuters
January 26, 2005

PHNOM PENH (Reuters) - A 4.5 kg (10 lb) meteorite which landed in a
former Khmer Rouge zone of northwest Cambodia has started fires across
rice fields and prayers from villagers who saw it as a divine omen of peace.

"Some farmers are angry with the rock because it caused fires and
destroyed several hundred hectares of their paddy fields," said Sok
Sareth, police chief of Banteay Meanchey province, around 200 miles
northwest of the capital, Phnom Penh.

"But others asked the police to leave it where it landed and put it on
shrine to pray for peace," he told Reuters on Wednesday.

The black lump of celestial rock sent villagers scurrying for cover when
it thumped into the ground in the war-scarred southeast Asian nation on
Monday morning.

"It made a noise like a bomb exploding," Sok Sareth said. "It's a good
thing it didn't land in the village or people could have been killed."

Pictures of the meteorite were splashed across newspapers in the
capital, but the item itself has been carried away by police pending
scientific analysis.

Initial investigations by explosives experts still clearing the bombs
and mines left behind from Cambodia's years of civil war against Pol
Pot's guerrillas have not yielded many results.

"I asked my friend who works as deminer, but he has no idea what the
rock is," Sok Sareth said.


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[meteorite-list] Space walk "goo" and "honeycomb"

2005-01-26 Thread David Freeman

Dear Ron, List;
The CNN story today was interesting:
Quote: Sharipov found a large patch of dark, oily residue on at least 
one vent and a white substance -- he described it as a honeycomb -- on 
the oxygen generator's outlet. "They're going to be very good pictures," 
he said as he photographed the goo.

Do we get a goo picture today and what do we think?
Best darnd day every, field trip time to hunt meteorites!
Dave F.
Wyoming

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[meteorite-list] Using Triangulation to Locate Meteorites

2005-01-26 Thread Paul H

Dear Fellow Meteorite Fans,

The people on this list might be interested in a class
exercise
on using eyewitnesses to falls to locate meteorites on
the
"T.E.A. Classroom Activities" web page at:

http://tea.rice.edu/tea_classroommaterials.html

The exercise is "Using Triangulation to Locate
Meteorites 
from Witnessed Falls" at:

http://tea.rice.edu/activity/caldwell/usingtriangulationtolocatemeteoritesfromwitnessedfalls_main.html

Best Regards,

PAul
Baton Rouge, LA





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