[meteorite-list] Mud Dry Lake old find
Hegh Bob, I was wondering if you recovered any fragments from this bolide on Mud Dry lake? It fell to earth on November 9th, 1962. Also how close is the impact from your find? venture a guess...you can make out a-lot in the background...mountains, long shadows and profile topography etc. Look at those (rocks?) in the trough on the right. http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/GPN-2000-000120.jpg Cheers: Paul Gessler PS-Rob M. can't wait for volume II on Lucerne valley, they are getting much bigger on that side. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test delete
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Re: [meteorite-list] Weekend plans
Rob Matson wrote: If the weather lets me, I hope to make a day-trip into the Mojave at some point over the 3-day weekend. If I believed the weather reports from yesterday, I'd have written off the weekend. But now the local news "meteorologists" (if you can call them that) have backed off on their pineapple express 3-days-of-rain storm warnings for southern California, so a trip may be back in the works. --Rob Hi Rob, We got hit with rain on Saturday - I hope things worked out for your trip though. Would love to hear a trip report. Congrats again on your 6.8 g find the other day! I hope I'll be able to get out soon in a few weeks as I've been tied up at work. Good huntin' to all, Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin shrapnel prices?
I'm wondering what a would be concidered a good price on small pieces of Sikhote-Alin shrapnel. A seller had a 1160 gram lot of 74 pieces listed with a BIN of 24 cents and a shipping price of $50. I think maybe the 24 cent BIN was a mistake, but it looks like he was gouging quite a bit on the shipping (even with it coming from Finland) and I wanted to do the BIN before someone else did (as surely someone would). So is $50.24 a good price for this lot, or should I tell the seller that he's "off the hook" (assuming that it was an accident). Or would the ethical thing to do to be to let him "off the hook" good deal or not? Here's the lot: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6513253911 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] baggoriyya is really Baygorria
I've changed the "Subject" line to include the real name of the real meteorite. With the correct name in the subject line, these posts will now show up when doing an Internet search for the real name. This isn't implying that the irons the Giroldi brothers are marketing are really paired with the Baygorria iron. I wish I had one of the Giroldi Bros. posters. Did anyone buy one? John Gwilliam At 07:30 PM 2/19/2005, Rob Wesel wrote: Right on my website if you want to see photos, from ET, the owner of the entire mass before cutting. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Farmer & Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Mike, Chicago Steve, et al, ET has the only REAL Bagoria. If you doubt it, contact him. He is ticked as hell that the market was ruined by fakes of Campos. If you see real Bagorria, you can see the difference. I have never known Ivan to be consciously deceitful, but if he was given erroneous information. There IS a real Bagorria - I can post a photo if people like. Michael on 2/19/05 5:57 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! It is CAMPO I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it in a lake in Uruguay. Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me know. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- "You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are." -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ¿ Are lunaites met. atracted to a magnet ?
Buenas noches, Lists. I am a new hunter and want to know if lunaites meteorites are pulled up by a magnet . Thanks in advance. Hasta luego. Paolo Gallo. _ Visita MSN Latino Entretenimiento: ¡música, cine, chismes, TV y más...! http://latino.msn.com/entretenimiento/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
Please give us their names. I, for one, make it a policy NEVER to do business of any kind with people who knowingly pass off one meteorite for another. This, it seams, is basic. You say they actually ADMITTED it??? RSVP Michael Blood on 2/19/05 6:46 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes there are, they are from Uruguay, and their names are not Hans Koser. > I discussed this with them (in Spanish) and they made no secret of it. Now, > perhaps with their language limitations, they were not able to clarify for > the buyers, but it is bad, and I am sick of seeing it. > Mike Farmer > - Original Message - > From: "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Meteorite List" > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > > >> Wait a minute. I have thought about this some more. >> Are you saying there are wholesellers knowingly >> passing off Campos for another meteorite? >> >> If so, then folks this is really bad. >> >> -Walter >> >> >> - >> - Original Message - >> From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mike Farmer & Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Arnold, >> Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" >> >> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya >> >> >>> Mike, Chicago Steve, et al, >>> ET has the only REAL Bagoria. If you doubt it, contact him. He is >>> ticked as hell that the market was ruined by fakes of Campos. If >>> you see real Bagorria, you can see the difference. >>> I have never known Ivan to be consciously deceitful, but if he >>> was given erroneous information. >>> There IS a real Bagorria - I can post a photo if people like. >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> on 2/19/05 5:57 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! It is CAMPO I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is >> after them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they >> found it in a lake in Uruguay. Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just >> a marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it >> is > stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let >> me > know. > > steve arnold, chicago > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 > Illinois Meteorites > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > http://my.yahoo.com > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are." >>> -Herb Cohen >>> -- >>> If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. >>> >>> __ >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> >> __ >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- "You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are." -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
At least the financial damage for the collectors won't be not very large, as finmet is working hard to bring down the price totally (as always) within 2 weeks to a Campo level, so that a cheating won't bring no profit anymore soon. Buckleboo! Martin - Original Message - From: "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > Wait a minute. I have thought about this some more. > Are you saying there are wholesellers knowingly > passing off Campos for another meteorite? > > If so, then folks this is really bad. > > -Walter > > > - > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mike Farmer & Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Arnold, > Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > > > > Mike, Chicago Steve, et al, > > ET has the only REAL Bagoria. If you doubt it, contact him. He is > > ticked as hell that the market was ruined by fakes of Campos. If > > you see real Bagorria, you can see the difference. > > I have never known Ivan to be consciously deceitful, but if he > > was given erroneous information. > > There IS a real Bagorria - I can post a photo if people like. > > Michael > > > > > > on 2/19/05 5:57 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! > > > It is CAMPO > > > I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is > after > > > them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they > found it > > > in a lake in Uruguay. > > > Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just > a > > > marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. > > > So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. > > > Mike Farmer > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > > > > > > > > >> Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it > is > > >> stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let > me > > >> know. > > >> > > >> steve arnold, chicago > > >> > > >> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > >> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 > > >> Illinois Meteorites > > >> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > >> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> __ > > >> Do you Yahoo!? > > >> All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > > >> http://my.yahoo.com > > >> __ > > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > >> > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > -- > > "You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are." > > -Herb Cohen > > -- > > If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
Yes there are, they are from Uruguay, and their names are not Hans Koser. I discussed this with them (in Spanish) and they made no secret of it. Now, perhaps with their language limitations, they were not able to clarify for the buyers, but it is bad, and I am sick of seeing it. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Wait a minute. I have thought about this some more. Are you saying there are wholesellers knowingly passing off Campos for another meteorite? If so, then folks this is really bad. -Walter - - Original Message - From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Farmer & Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Mike, Chicago Steve, et al, ET has the only REAL Bagoria. If you doubt it, contact him. He is ticked as hell that the market was ruined by fakes of Campos. If you see real Bagorria, you can see the difference. I have never known Ivan to be consciously deceitful, but if he was given erroneous information. There IS a real Bagorria - I can post a photo if people like. Michael on 2/19/05 5:57 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! > It is CAMPO > I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after > them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it > in a lake in Uruguay. > Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a > marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. > So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. > Mike Farmer > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > > >> Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is >> stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me >> know. >> >> steve arnold, chicago >> >> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 >> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 >> Illinois Meteorites >> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com >> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! >> http://my.yahoo.com >> __ >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- "You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are." -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
Wait a minute. I have thought about this some more. Are you saying there are wholesellers knowingly passing off Campos for another meteorite? If so, then folks this is really bad. -Walter - - Original Message - From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Farmer & Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > Mike, Chicago Steve, et al, > ET has the only REAL Bagoria. If you doubt it, contact him. He is > ticked as hell that the market was ruined by fakes of Campos. If > you see real Bagorria, you can see the difference. > I have never known Ivan to be consciously deceitful, but if he > was given erroneous information. > There IS a real Bagorria - I can post a photo if people like. > Michael > > > on 2/19/05 5:57 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! > > It is CAMPO > > I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after > > them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it > > in a lake in Uruguay. > > Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a > > marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. > > So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. > > Mike Farmer > > - Original Message - > > From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM > > Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > > > > > >> Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is > >> stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me > >> know. > >> > >> steve arnold, chicago > >> > >> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > >> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 > >> Illinois Meteorites > >> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > >> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __ > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > >> http://my.yahoo.com > >> __ > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > -- > "You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are." > -Herb Cohen > -- > If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
Right on my website if you want to see photos, from ET, the owner of the entire mass before cutting. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Farmer & Melody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Mike, Chicago Steve, et al, ET has the only REAL Bagoria. If you doubt it, contact him. He is ticked as hell that the market was ruined by fakes of Campos. If you see real Bagorria, you can see the difference. I have never known Ivan to be consciously deceitful, but if he was given erroneous information. There IS a real Bagorria - I can post a photo if people like. Michael on 2/19/05 5:57 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! It is CAMPO I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it in a lake in Uruguay. Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me know. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- "You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are." -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
Mike, Chicago Steve, et al, ET has the only REAL Bagoria. If you doubt it, contact him. He is ticked as hell that the market was ruined by fakes of Campos. If you see real Bagorria, you can see the difference. I have never known Ivan to be consciously deceitful, but if he was given erroneous information. There IS a real Bagorria - I can post a photo if people like. Michael on 2/19/05 5:57 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! > It is CAMPO > I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after > them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it > in a lake in Uruguay. > Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a > marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. > So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. > Mike Farmer > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > > >> Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is >> stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me >> know. >> >> steve arnold, chicago >> >> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 >> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 >> Illinois Meteorites >> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com >> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! >> http://my.yahoo.com >> __ >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- "You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are." -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
If you check Finmets auction. He does disclose the following: "This meteorite turned up on famous Tucson mineral Show 2005. Because of its great similarity to Campo del Cielo, some people doubt it to be from Uruguay. " "One of the stories tells about difficulties to bring Campo legally from Argentina straight to USA. So they have been shipped the short way to Uruguay where the story of a new strewnfield was created. Truth or not?" So apparently Finmet isnt trying to be deceitful. Why hes using the Baygorria name I have no idea. BE - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! It is CAMPO I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it in a lake in Uruguay. Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me know. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
I have been sitting quiet on this issue but Mike is right and these guys are definitely hurting my Baygorria, which is the real deal. Don't be fooled on this eBay scam, some prominent sellers seem to have jumped on board. Trust your sourcesor you're gonna end up with another Campo. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! It is CAMPO I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it in a lake in Uruguay. Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me know. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
Hi Mike, Thank you very much for the tip. -Walter - - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! > It is CAMPO > I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after > them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it > in a lake in Uruguay. > Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a > marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. > So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. > Mike Farmer > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya > > > > Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is > > stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me > > know. > > > > steve arnold, chicago > > > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 > > Illinois Meteorites > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > > http://my.yahoo.com > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
I hate to burst your bubbles, but THERE IS NO BAYGORRIA! It is CAMPO I know the guys who sold it as Baygorria, the Argentine government is after them, so what did they do, they just call it Baygorria and say they found it in a lake in Uruguay. Stupidest crap I have ever heard, and they told me in Tucson it is just a marketing ploy to keep themselves out of trouble. So please, THESE meteorite are CAMPOS. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me know. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] stability in baggoriyya
Hi list.Does anyone who has any of the new iron,BAGGORIYYA,knows if it is stable?I see alot of it coming out of finmets ebay auctions.Please let me know. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gorgeous Millbillillie for trade
I have my 76 gram museum , Black Millbillillie for trade. 98% Crusted. See Here: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/94ff Im looking for quality oriented chondrites ONLY. Photos appreciated ! Have a great weekend ! Bob E __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Vincent Jacques
I am writing the list about Vincent Jacques from Belgium. He is a thief. I sold him a piece of Saratov for several hundred dollars over one and a half year ago! He never sent payment, wrote me several times that his payments kept being returned to him, but never showed me a scan of the returned envelopes. He kept getting angry, telling me he would pay me and that he worked for a museum and would never steal. Yet, one and a half year later, the meteorite is still in Belgium, sitting in a museum, and I have no payment. He refuses to answer emails any more, so I am finally tired of waiting for my payment. I am sad that a European collector who put my meteorite in a museum has refused to pay for it. Anyone dealing with him, please send him my regards, and there is no longer a need to pay for the meteorite, I consider it stolen and will contact the museum myself to demand it be returned. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Sugars in meteorites
Does this mean that my slice of Agoult really is BROWN SUGAR??? Can't wait till breakfast tomorrow, that oatmeal is gonna be sooo sweet. Ryan -Original Message- From: drtanuki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 19, 2005 1:02 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sugars in meteorites Sorry List this did not go through to the list. Resending. > Dear List: >Included in this message is a link to an article > about sugars in meteorites. Enjoy if you like. > > http://www.llnl.gov/tid/lof/documents/pdf/301295.pdf > > If for some reason this link does not work please do > a > web search for "sugars in meteorites". > Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced > search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=301295.url __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sale - Nakhla Dog Updates
Hello all- First I would like to say thanks to all those who have been making their way to Nakhla Dog Meteorites...and back again. The stats are looking good, to me anyway. http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com New material for sale: Lunars (including a small main mass) 2Kg of Oriented Chondrites Two new Howardites Still some great deals on previous material New gear: Meteorite Coins - The big solid silver ones! 50 Pound telescoping magnetic poles 1cm reference cubes The Collection page has been updated with many new photos, see Mbale, Monze, Worden, and others The Search for the Golden Ticket continues, two have won so far Please have a look...feel free to make an offer. I would prefer to stay off eBay so I am willing to deal! Be well, Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Cubic crystals/minerals in Meteorites?Contest withPrize!!!
Dirk, Meteorite minerals of a cubic habit include: Halite, pyrite, awaruite, chromite, copper, diamond, gold, grossular, magnetite, niningerite, oldhamite, osbornite, pentlandite, ringwoodite, silicon carbide, sodalite, sphalerite, spinel, sylvite. Dan Wray - Original Message - From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: Fwd: Re: [meteorite-list] Cubic crystals/minerals in Meteorites?Contest withPrize!!! > Dear List, >Tom Knudson wins the special Proud Tom Award for > his answerBut I am looking for the most complete > and detailed answer. The question for the quiz again > is: What crystals/minerals in meteorites exhibit a > cubic habit? Organics may also be allowed. > Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their > > history? Contest withPrize!!! Proud Tom? > > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:41:06 -0700 > > > > Dirk, > > Cubic forms do exist in meteorites! Each mineral in > > fact a cube, some > > cubes contain many minerals commonly found in > > meteorites. The cubes found > > in meteorites can come in any size, from microscopic > > to outright huge, > > depending on the size of the meteorite. It just > > depends on how big of a > > cube you make when you cut it. > > Thanks, Tom > > peregrineflier <>< > > IMCA 6168 > > > http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm > > http://fstop.proboards24.com/ > > - Original Message - > > From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their > > history? Contest > > withPrize!!! Proud Tom? > > > > > > > Martin and List, > > > You are the fastest with an answer, but may not > > be > > > the most complete and detailed. I will announce > > the > > > winner once all interested have answered. Thanks > > for > > > all of your comments. I am sure we will see > > someone > > > in a white smock, white gloves, cube or brick, > > etc. in > > > an upcoming Proud Tom selling offer, IF Proud Tom > > is > > > listening. > > > Best, Dirk...Tokyo > > > > > > For those with answers to the Quiz...PLEASE EMAIL > > OFF > > > LISTI will post the winner, their answer and > > > prize. > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sugars in meteorites
Oh great, it's back to the talk about meteorite consumption, at least for those with a sweet tooth! Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm http://fstop.proboards24.com/ - Original Message - From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sugars in meteorites > Sorry List this did not go through to the list. > Resending. > > > Dear List: > >Included in this message is a link to an article > > about sugars in meteorites. Enjoy if you like. > > > > http://www.llnl.gov/tid/lof/documents/pdf/301295.pdf > > > > If for some reason this link does not work please do > > a > > web search for "sugars in meteorites". > > Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced > > search. > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream > name=301295.url > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sugars in meteorites
Sorry List this did not go through to the list. Resending. > Dear List: >Included in this message is a link to an article > about sugars in meteorites. Enjoy if you like. > > http://www.llnl.gov/tid/lof/documents/pdf/301295.pdf > > If for some reason this link does not work please do > a > web search for "sugars in meteorites". > Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced > search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=301295.url __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Do all meteorites have nickel?
Dear Bernd, Tom and List, Nickel spectra should appear in its correct position in any analytic analysis unless the machine is not operating correctly or the operator is mis-reading the data. My experience is limited to ASEM and ICP analysis. Sincerely, Dirk...Tokyo Bernd please particiate in the contest concerning crystals/minerals that exhibit cubic habits and are found in meteorites. I would bet that you would walk away with the prize. dirk __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Do all meteorites have nickel?
Tom asked: > Bernd, you explained to me that on the PIXI test that the nickel was in the > wrong place on the graph, in all the meteorites you listed as having Nickel, > would each of them have a spike in the correct place? Hello Tom and List, This is an interesting question that I would like to pass on to the whole List. I personally think that Ni would always have a definite peak in a spectrum of elements, that its peak would always be at a definite wavelength, but I am not quite sure. Any comments? Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad -Very nice Sikhote Individual
Take a look :) http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44608&item=6154215652&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18.02.2005 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sale - Micros
Hello List, I have a half dozen micros listed on ebay ending today. Take a look if you like. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsofindtypeZ15QQuseridZwebbthQQsadisZ200QQsacqyopZgeQQsaslopZ1QQsspagenameZhQ3AhQ3AadvsearchQ3AUSQQcatrefZC5QQsacurZ0QQftrvZ1QQftrtZ1QQsofocusZbsQQfclZ3QQfromZR7QQpfidZ0QQsinceZ30QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQfrppZ50 Thomas __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kevins book makes it to Ireland
Just a note to thank Kevin publically for a well put together book that should be a great and informative read judging by the first few pages.They were well packed and arrived in perfect condition.Thank you Kevin,great work Jim member IMCA 2424 member British and Irish Meteorite Society -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I swear, I looked in the books!
Hey List, I looked in the books and can't figure out what this is, will you please take a look and see if it could be a meteorite? It has an ever so slight tug on a magnet and looks real cool. Crust, I am not sure, very weathered rock, the out side looks rusted? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0728.jpg Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm http://fstop.proboards24.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oh Oh Ohooooo Mr.BCC you have lose
Hello a nice news http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~steve/Shodor/NCSI/OTEI/story.doc I hope that a lot of they follow this road and eliminate BCC from internet Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto più divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The lies of BCC fake meteorite
Take a look what idiocy write this person http://www.bccmeteorites.com/matteo.html A. The Nomenclature Committee has not recognized a lunar meteorite from the state of Texas oh yes? where its write? ah, mr.BCC, probably you are a illiterate, but my surname its Chinellato not Chinelleto Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto più divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fwd: Re: [meteorite-list] Cubic crystals/minerals in Meteorites? Contest withPrize!!!
Dear List, Tom Knudson wins the special Proud Tom Award for his answerBut I am looking for the most complete and detailed answer. The question for the quiz again is: What crystals/minerals in meteorites exhibit a cubic habit? Organics may also be allowed. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their > history? Contest withPrize!!! Proud Tom? > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:41:06 -0700 > > Dirk, > Cubic forms do exist in meteorites! Each mineral in > fact a cube, some > cubes contain many minerals commonly found in > meteorites. The cubes found > in meteorites can come in any size, from microscopic > to outright huge, > depending on the size of the meteorite. It just > depends on how big of a > cube you make when you cut it. > Thanks, Tom > peregrineflier <>< > IMCA 6168 > http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm > http://fstop.proboards24.com/ > - Original Message - > From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:56 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their > history? Contest > withPrize!!! Proud Tom? > > > > Martin and List, > > You are the fastest with an answer, but may not > be > > the most complete and detailed. I will announce > the > > winner once all interested have answered. Thanks > for > > all of your comments. I am sure we will see > someone > > in a white smock, white gloves, cube or brick, > etc. in > > an upcoming Proud Tom selling offer, IF Proud Tom > is > > listening. > > Best, Dirk...Tokyo > > > > For those with answers to the Quiz...PLEASE EMAIL > OFF > > LISTI will post the winner, their answer and > > prize. > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MARKOVKA???
look on ebay Matteo --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Hello List, Does anyone have a small slice of > Markovka for sell? > Thanks, Tom > peregrineflier <>< > IMCA 6168 > http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm > http://fstop.proboards24.com/ > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto più divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] who bought great bend from bob haag?
Hi list.This is for the person who bought the GREAT BEND piece from bob haag in tucson.I have the great bend specimen card.Please let me know who this is so I can mail it to you. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MARKOVKA???
Hello List, Does anyone have a small slice of Markovka for sell? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm http://fstop.proboards24.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars rover doesn't find new meteorite
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/mars_meteor_050219.html Mars Rovers Solve One Mystery, Find Another By Tariq Malik Staff Writer posted: 19 February 2005 09:03 am ET WASHINGTON, D.C. -- A rock that careened through the Martian sky and bounced to a stop on the red planetâs surface is most definitely not an alien meteorite, the principal investigator of NASAâs Mars rover mission said Friday. The rock, dubbed "Russet" after a type of potato, is apparently a chunk of Mars ejected in the past from a crater impact, said Steven Squyres, science team leader for NASAâs rovers Spirit and Opportunity currently Opportunity came upon Russet on the plains of Meridiani Planum while driving towards its current destination Vostok. A small crater nearby hinted that Russet fell from the sky, but whether it was truly alien to Mars - like Opportunityâs recent meteorite find Heat Shield Rock â or simply crater ejecta was unknown. "The [Opportunity] rover found that this was sulfate-rich, and not a meteorite," Squyres told an audience of scientists and reporters here during a plenary lecture at the 2005 meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS). "So that mysteryâs solved." But Russetâs homely nature does not quell all of the current questions posed by the two Mars rovers. An accidental discovery by Spirit has Mars researchers scratching their heads over an odd patch of soil full of sulfur-rich salts, or sulfates. The rover made the find by chance, when a wheel churned up the bright sulfate material during a failed attempt to climb a Columbia Hill slope at Gusev Crater. "This is a completely serendipitous discovery, a complete surprise," Squyres said during a press briefing earlier Friday. "This is a very rich concentration of salts, and weâll learn more about what it means in the next few days." Squyres said that one possible explanation could be that past water may have percolated up to the surface, bringing up minerals along for the ride, then evaporated, leaving behind a salty crust. But additional measurements using the multiple science instruments attached to Spiritâs robot arm should yield a better picture, he added. A tiring task This week, the Mars rover mission passed the 400-day mark, a far cry from its original three-month plan, and the human strain is showing, Squyres said. "The whole team is deeply fatigued," he said, adding that his best hope at the missionâs outset was a 180-day run on Mars. "These vehicles were designed for 90 days of operations." Despite that nominal mission, Squyres had hoped that Spirit and Opportunity would last 180 sols, or Martian days. But with two mission extensions behind them, rover scientists have streamlined how they control Spirit and Opportunity, and now work on a more manageable time schedule that straddles Earth and Mars time. "Itâs very demanding, itâs excitingâitâs exhausting," Squyres said of the extended mission. "I think when this is over weâre all going to take a very long rest, but for now we have a responsibility to get every bit of science out of these vehicles." __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their history? Contest with Prize!!! Proud Tom?
Uhh, I see, I forgot CUBErtson. How could I Buckleboo, Martin - Original Message - From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their history? Contest with Prize!!! Proud Tom? > Martin and List, > You are the fastest with an answer, but may not be > the most complete and detailed. I will announce the > winner once all interested have answered. Thanks for > all of your comments. I am sure we will see someone > in a white smock, white gloves, cube or brick, etc. in > an upcoming Proud Tom selling offer, IF Proud Tom is > listening. > Best, Dirk...Tokyo > > For those with answers to the Quiz...PLEASE EMAIL OFF > LISTI will post the winner, their answer and > prize. > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their history? Contest with Prize!!! Proud Tom?
Martin and List, You are the fastest with an answer, but may not be the most complete and detailed. I will announce the winner once all interested have answered. Thanks for all of your comments. I am sure we will see someone in a white smock, white gloves, cube or brick, etc. in an upcoming Proud Tom selling offer, IF Proud Tom is listening. Best, Dirk...Tokyo For those with answers to the Quiz...PLEASE EMAIL OFF LISTI will post the winner, their answer and prize. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 06-25-1930 Nininger Buys the Paragould Meteorite
Paper: The Ironwood Daily Globe City: Ironwood, Michigan Date: Wednesday, June 25, 1930 Page: 9 SMALL COLLEGE HAS METEOR IN MUSEUM Professor at McPherson, Pays $3,600 For World's Finest Specimen. McPherson, Kan., June 25 - These are happy days for Professor H. N. Nininger of the faculty of McPherson College, a school of a few hundred students in this central Kansas prairie town. Professor Nininger, small of stature and peer through thick glasses, is gloating over a prize he snatched away from buyers representing the Field Museum of Chicago. The scientist outbid the Chicago Institution and obtained for his country college the world's finest meteorite specimen - the largest that ever was observed falling from the skies. The prize looks like a common rock and weighs 820 pounds. The Kansan paid $3600 of the little college's funds for the specimen, obtaining it by offering and even $100 more than a representative had been authorized by the Chicago museum to offer. Startled the Farmers It was about 4:15 in the morning of Feb. 17 that farmers living 14 miles southwest of Paragould, Ark., were awakened by a deafening roar. Among those who ran to doors and windows to look out were Mr. and Mrs. Joseph H. Fletcher. Almost dazed by three load reports, holding themselves erect only by holding to the casing of a door as their house shook and trembled as in an earthquake, they saw a large fiery substance strike the earth near their home. Clouds of clay hurled 100 yards by the impact of the object with the earth's surface. When they hastened to the spot, they found only a hole in the ground. But at the bottom of that hole was what seemed to be a stone. It had embedded itself about nine feet in the ground when it struck after falling through space. Was Offered $3,500 Mr. Fletcher dug out the object and hauled it to a newspaper office in Paragould. There it was examined by hundreds of curious persons, including Professor C.C. Wylie of the department of astronomy of the University of Iowa. Dr. Wylie for years has specialized in the study of meteors. He spent several days obtaining statements from person who saw the object fall. It was then that the Field Museum in Chicago authorized an offer of $3500 to the farmer for the meteorite. Just as that offer was about to be accepted, however, Professor Nininger arrived from McPherson. He, like the University of Iowa scientist, had made a life study of meteors and meteorites. Professor Nininger was enthusiastic about this stone. He announced it not only the largest of its kind ever seen to fall but was of unusual composition. The Kansas professor did some hasty telegraphing to the management of his college and then surprised everybody by outbidding the Chicago museum. Within a few hours, Professor Nininger had the meteorite in an express car en route to McPherson. May Sell-at a Profit Professor Nininger, proud of his college's possession, indicates enough profit might cause surrender of the meteorite to a higher bidder. "It is possible that we may yet dispose of it to some large Institution," he added. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles PDF copy of this article, and most I post (and about 1/2 of those on my website), is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. The old list server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess this is more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Two Biologist Nininger NPA's, Aug. 1925 and Feb. 1927
Paper: The Charleroi Mail City: Ruthven, Iowa Date: Friday, August 28, 1925 Page: 8 (of 10) STUDY OF BIRD OBJECT OF TRIP Prof. H. H. Nininger to Go From S. Dakota to Mexico McPherson, Kan. - A study of bird life from South Dakota to Mexico City and back along the western coast of Mexico said the United States to Canada, will be made this summer by Prof. H. H. Nininger, head of the biological department of McPherson college here. Professor Nininger will make the trip under the auspices of the National Oralthology society, and it is expected to result in the most important discoveries in the interests of oralthology. The party will start from western South Dakota and travel in a house car built especially for the purpose. Care will be taken to keep well ahead of cold weather, so that the birds can be studied in advance of the migratory period for the American species. Crossing the Rio Grande, the party will continue south, gathering data on the species both rare and common to Mexico. While there, the migratory birds of the northland, which will have sought winter quarters, will be closely observed. From the City of Mexico, Professor Nininger will move northward, traveling along the western coast of Mexico and the United States until the Canadian border is reached. Colleges and universities along the route in both countries have asked Professor Nininger for his disclosures. (end) Paper: The Bee City: Danville, Virginia Date: Monday, February 21, 1927 Page: 11 (of 16) FINDS NEWS FOSSIL BED McPHERSON, Kan., A new bed of fossil tracks, imprints left by strange birds and animals of thousands of years ago, have been located here by Prof. H. H. Nininger, biologist of McPherson College. This part of the country is believed to have been a shallow lake in prehistoric times and animals left their tracks in the stiff muck about its shore. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles PDF copy of this article, and most I post (and about 1/2 of those on my website), is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. The old list server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess this is more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 05-08-1925 Meteorites and Kansas, Nininger
Paper: The Mansfield News City: Mansfield, Ohio Date: Friday, May 8, 1925 NOT EVERY METEOR FEEL ITS OBLIGED TO FALL IN KANSAS McPHERSON, Kan., May 8. - (AP) - Kansas has attained a reputation beyond this planet as a landing field for stray meteorites, but that reputation would not stand the test of science, declared Prof. H. H. Nininger of McPherson college, past president of the Kansas Academy of Science, in an address on the subject of meteorites. The belief that Kansas, center of the United States, exerts some unexplained influence on the heavenly wanderers, is without foundation in fact, the professor asserted. A chart of recorded meteorite falls discloses that one-fifth of the significant finds in the world have been in Kansas, and this has led, according to Professor Nininger , to the popular and fallacious impression that this state is peculiarly attractive to meteorites. Two explanations he offered for the apparent monopoly Kansas has maintained: the character of the soil, and the interest aroused in the science. "The finding of stony meteorites," Professor Nininger pointed out, "which have not been seen to fall, may be considered among the rarest events in the annals of meteoritics. In only two localities on this continent have such finds occurred in numbers - western Kansas and the coastal plains of Texas. In both of these regions the soil is comparatively free from terrestrial rocks." This, he said, facilitated distinguishing meteoritic stones from the earth. A series of witnessed falls of the now famous and iron and stone meteorites also had kept scientific circles, the public and the press interested in Kansas for long periods, he said, with the result that farmers began to believe that the heavy stones with which they were weighing down fences and roofs were in fact meteorites. Thus were the discoveries multiplied. Scientists have never satisfactorily accounted for the concentration of iron meteorites in large showers, Professor Nininger told his audience. One theory is that such showers are remnants of disintegrating comets which have "side-swiped" the earth. This, he said, may explain the huge crater in northeast Arizona, devoid of volcanic rock and surrounded by traces of iron meteoritic falls, which geologists believe marks the entrance into the earth of a monster meteorite. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles PDF copy of this article, and most I post (and about 1/2 of those on my website), is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. The old list server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess this is more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their history? Contest with Prize!!!
List, The NBS (Nationial Bureau of Standards) US maintains the universal standard cubic centimeter as well as all standards, metric and US standards in their very precise, expensive and highly guarded collection. Most likely many other countries have their own Standards collection. The history of the use of a cube dates at least to 4000 B.C.? or earlier in Egyptian culture...in the form of dice? and building blocks; but was not only unique to their culture. Early Chinese also had their standard cube by at least 2000 B.C. The "idea" of the cube probably came from observing natural cubic pyrite or other minerials with a cubic habit. The first use of the cube associated with meteorites perhaps was by the Japanese in Antartica. Caveat: I may be incorrect. Quiz: Do cubic forms exist in meteorites and in which minerials? A prize will be rewarded for the most correct and detailed answer. Thank you and cube on, Dirk RossTokyo __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you for your input!
Dear Bill, List; It may be worth noting again, be sure that you remember that the visible iron specks are only part of that equation as the total iron is the number for the L or H classification, and even though that WOULD APPEAR to be an L from a visual, if there is more elemental iron, it could be more than an L. Caution needs to be embraced with just visual classification Hope this is insightful to others, Dave F. Bill Southern wrote: Hello All, Thank you for your input about my new chondrite and it seems you all agree for the most part giving me a good idea of what I might have. There was a request for a photo of some with the crust intact so I have added a photo of a 470 gram and a 122 gram piece for you to look at. The larger was the first find... Thanks again for taking the time to give your opinions and I will post the classification information when it is given to me by Lora at ASU. http://www.nuggetshooter.com/fimage/Newfinda1-13-2005.jpg Bill Southern __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Please Ignore!!!! Way off topic!!!! Statingthe OBVIOUS!??
Yep, but Dirk, the use of the letters is not so important, if da cube is used only for size comparig purpose, as the directions in the strewnfield at home are of minor importance. It might be a nice exercise for a geometrician, given the proper orientation of the cube and the season, to estimate from the length of the shadows, at which hour of the day the picture was made, but I confess, that whenever I put my specimens onto the sill to take pictures, I never used a compass. Let's check my actual auctions...well, at the Sao Juliao the S points not to South, it's more SSE. Kunya-Urgench: W must be turned clockwise for about 60°. Moon - wow, seems to be quite correct +/- 10°. > Therefore by stating the dimensions in the text would Everybody is giving the information of the specimen's dimensions additionally in the text. (and some allude the cube being 1cm x 1cm x 1cm). > "uneducated" ebay buyer the cube has no meaning. One never should underestimate peoples intellectual skills >lens cap, pen, pocket knife, objects, which strongly vary in size. (My tomcat was twice as large as my cat). Note another point: All this cubes with letters were made by Scherff, hence cognizable and standardized. Imagine, Mr.Buckleboo with his devilish mind, would craft a cube with a length of the edges of only 7mm, to gave a wrong impression of the true size of the meteorite... "planetary" - words have meanings, sometimes the meaning is shortened or transformed by the use of that word. That's the reason, why we often have to laugh so much, if we hear a politician, a manager or a lawyer speakin' or if we're reading a computer manual or a writ from the authorities. "planetary" is a sloppy word for stony meteorites from differentiated (thus probably larger mother (?) bodies). Of course it's not concise, as f.e. all the irons are also a product of differentiaton and we don't have to start the somewhat academic discussion from when on a celestial body which revolves around the sun should be called a planet, planetoid, asteroid, kuiperbeltobject ect. And of course you could take your stand, that "Nonplanetary hits planetary" correctly describes the fall of the Park Forest Curb Smasher, as Park Forest is an ordinary chondrite, thus not planetary, but the curb is made from terrestial rock and our Earth is a planet. Da point is: It's important, that most people do understand, what "planetary" if attributed to a meteorite means. My 2 buckleboos. Martin - Original Message - From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Alexander Seidel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Please Ignore Way off topic Statingthe OBVIOUS!?? > Dear Alexander, Martin, and List, > I think that the cubes are wonderful IF they are > properly used; but I see many photos with the user not > understanding the orientation for the cube. And for > many viewers outside of the US it is understood that > the dimension is 1cmX1cmX1cm; but for the common > "uneducated" ebay buyer the cube has no meaning. > Therefore by stating the dimensions in the text would > provide more clear information for most viewers. > As for field geology, the cubes would be useful; > but commonly the field geologist is left with using a > coin, lens cap, pen, pocket knife, rock hammer, or > something else that he/she happens to have available. > Now about Planetary material. Science is a dynamic > and hopefully progressive method to explain what is > being studied. Science cannot say with 100% certainty > that this or that meteorite came from this or that > planetary body. We can state the evidence we have > that indicates, with some degree of certainty, that > this or that rock came from wheresometimes. The > types of rocks and environments on most planetary > bodies should be highly variablelook at the > variety of rocks and minerals on the Earth for > example. > Planetary bodies are dynamic, and atmospheric gas and > rock formation processes are variable throughout the > formation and life of the planetary bodies. Impacting > meteorites from another source can "contaminate" the > surface samples that are/have been collected. > Thank you both and list members for this debate. > Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you for your input!
Hello All, Thank you for your input about my new chondrite and it seems you all agree for the most part giving me a good idea of what I might have. There was a request for a photo of some with the crust intact so I have added a photo of a 470 gram and a 122 gram piece for you to look at. The larger was the first find... Thanks again for taking the time to give your opinions and I will post the classification information when it is given to me by Lora at ASU. http://www.nuggetshooter.com/fimage/Newfinda1-13-2005.jpg Bill Southern __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-2: [meteorite-list] Looking for a few opinions...
Hi Bill, Marcin, and List, > I am looking for an opinion or two about what the > possible classification of this new chondrite may be. > http://www.nuggetshooter.com/fimage/new001cut.jpg > I think L6 W1 or maybe L5 if there is some chondrules I think L5 or L6 is a good guess but the weathering grade is probably closer to W3 (at least in this cut specimen). Congrats, Bill, on your find! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Do all meteorites have nickel?
Hello Tom, Göran, and List, > it isn't always this simple as we saw > free metal in that last Lunar meteorite Not only in the most recent lunar meteorite: DaG 262 contains metal particles with 5-26 wt% Ni DaG 400 has abundant metal (meteoritic provenance) DaG 996 contains FeNi metal, etc. The Dhofar lunar meteorites contain FeNi metal as do the NWA lunar meteorites. The pyrrhotite of the DaG 876 shergottite has up to 2.5 wt% Ni and as it is possibly paired with DaG 476, 489, 670, and 735, these should also contain a certain amount of nickel. NWA 856 (shergottite): 77 ppm Ni The HEDs have nickel too (the metal of the Binda howardite, for example has 2.0 to 3.8 % Ni). The metal of the Hughes 007 ureilite has 1.6-4.9% Ni. Nels Oakes' gorgeous, new lodranite NWA 2656 has 6.3% Ni. Nickel is virtually omnipresent in meteorites! Or, ... to sum it up with O.R. Norton's words: " ... so that for all but a very few stony achondrites, the presence of nickel is an important diagnostic characteristic that, if shown to be present, almost certainly identifies the specimen as a meteorite." NORTON O. R. (2002) The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites, Appendix E - Testing a meteorite for nickel, p. 319. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - February 19, 2005
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[meteorite-list] Ad - Please Ignore!!!! Way off topic!!!! Statingthe OBVIOUS!?? - About Cubes
To those who come across this post via a Google search -- Now that we've gone full circle on this "subject", which is neither an "Ad" nor is "Way off topic!!", just wanted to add some background history about these centimeter cubes used for scale and orientation. To the best of my memory the first time I saw a cube scale used by a meteorite dealer was by Eric Twelker. I believe they were made out of wood and were without markings. I thought it was a great idea. He would have many pieces of a meteorite he was selling, all in various sizes, but in the images they would all look the same size regardless of their weight. The only way to judge relative size was by looking at the "wooden block" in the image. In each successive image, as the "block" got smaller, you knew the specimens were getting larger. To the best of my memory the first time a cube with "NASA markings" was used with a meteorite specimen in an eBay auction was by . . . . me! And here is how that came about. It goes back to the time that UCLA was working on the LA Mars rock, ~1998. One of the researchers, Paul Warren, gave me a cube scale to use in photographs of LA 001 before it was to be cut. I recognized it as looking just like the centimeter cubes used on the Antarctic meteorite web pages. Paul confirmed that the cube had been made by NASA. This is the cube that appears in the Ron Baalke images of LA 001 & 002. I used this same cube in all of my in-situ images of the meteorites I found in 1999 and 2000. It is the same cube used in the Willcox Playa 002 images. It was still in my camera bag when it was stolen out of my truck. It turns out that this cube was irreplaceable. NASA had made less than a handful of them and none of them were obtainable. Hearing of my plight, a good friend of mine (a skilled arts & crafts person) offered to make me a replica cube. I liked it so much that I requisitioned a dozen more to be made. These are the cubes that were made by Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge. I shared these cubes with my meteorite-recovery team members. After these cubes appeared in images that I used on eBay auctions, I got requests for them from Rob Wesel, Matteo, and Peter Scherff. Although it was not necessary, Peter asked permission to improve upon the "design". And Peter has done just that. I've been recommending Peter to everyone requesting a flat-black marked, centimeter cube scale, ever since. Regardless of any concensus that meteorite dealers may reach in regards to which style of cube scales are politically correct, I will continue to use the black centimeter cube with the white markings for all of my scaling purposes. With properly scaled regards, Bob V. --- Original Messsage [meteorite-list] Ad - Please Ignore Way off topic Statingthe OBVIOUS!?? drtanuki drtanuki at yahoo.com Fri Feb 18 22:49:58 EST 2005 Dear Alexander, Martin, and List, I think that the cubes are wonderful IF they are properly used; but I see many photos with the user not understanding the orientation for the cube. And for many viewers outside of the US it is understood that the dimension is 1cmX1cmX1cm; but for the common "uneducated" ebay buyer the cube has no meaning. Therefore by stating the dimensions in the text would provide more clear information for most viewers. As for field geology, the cubes would be useful; but commonly the field geologist is left with using a coin, lens cap, pen, pocket knife, rock hammer, or something else that he/she happens to have available. Now about Planetary material. Science is a dynamic and hopefully progressive method to explain what is being studied. Science cannot say with 100% certainty that this or that meteorite came from this or that planetary body. We can state the evidence we have that indicates, with some degree of certainty, that this or that rock came from wheresometimes. The types of rocks and environments on most planetary bodies should be highly variablelook at the variety of rocks and minerals on the Earth for example. Planetary bodies are dynamic, and atmospheric gas and rock formation processes are variable throughout the formation and life of the planetary bodies. Impacting meteorites from another source can "contaminate" the surface samples that are/have been collected. Thank you both and list members for this debate. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
