[meteorite-list] What's in a name?
Hi all, The name that stands out in my mind is Zzyzx Nevada. I remember driving through there the first time in a 60 Ford Falcon in August, no ac of course. When I read the Zzyzx sign it defined my state of mind. Kind of like a frying short circut. Little Cow Hole Mountain is nearby as well... Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] What's in a name?
Hi Bill, I agree that Zzyzx would make a terrific meteorite name! (Zzyzx is actually in California just off I-15). --Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: 2/21/2005 12:37 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] What's in a name? Hi all, The name that stands out in my mind is Zzyzx Nevada. I remember driving through there the first time in a 60 Ford Falcon in August, no ac of course. When I read the Zzyzx sign it defined my state of mind. Kind of like a frying short circut. Little Cow Hole Mountain is nearby as well... Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] What's in a name?
Oops, I should have checked a map first. After all the talk about dry lakes I drifted back to my days of desert scrounging. I can still SEE the heat. Unfortunately I was unaware of meteorites then. Thanks! Bill -- Original message -- From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bill, I agree that Zzyzx would make a terrific meteorite name! (Zzyzx is actually in California just off I-15). --Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: 2/21/2005 12:37 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] What's in a name? Hi all, The name that stands out in my mind is Zzyzx Nevada. I remember driving through there the first time in a 60 Ford Falcon in August, no ac of course. When I read the Zzyzx sign it defined my state of mind. Kind of like a frying short circut. Little Cow Hole Mountain is nearby as well... Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Dear List, Is anyone interested in creating a Blog for meteorites where rumor, lies, cheats, disinformation, fact, fiction, humor (Proud Tom), theives of meteorites, etc could be discussed? I do not have the time nor skills to create such a site. If anyone decides to use this idea, please list me as the seed for this idea. Thank you. Sincerely, Dirk RossTokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY - FEBRUARY 21, 2005
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Feb21.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their history? Contest with Prize!!!
Hi Dirk and list I have in my collection two Nantan specimens with cubic crystals of Magnetite (I make an x-ray diffraction on them so I'm 100% sure) I had a 300g specimen in my collection for about 7 years, one day after about 2 years, I picked it up and it split in two!, in the fracture, almost 50% of the new surface was covered by very sharp cubic microcristals, some of them somewhat iridiscent. I gave a sample to a friend who made the XRD and confirmed it was magnetite. About 2 - 3 years ago at Tucson show a chinese dealer was selling very rusted nantan specimens, I checked em all and one of the pieces had lots of those cristals on the shale. I don't know if this count for you as they are not in the meteorite itself but in the rusted shale part. But as I consider Hoba shale, and Santa Catharina as meteorites then for me this are cubic crystals in a meteorite. Eduardo -Original Message- From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:07:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their history? Contest with Prize!!! List, The NBS (Nationial Bureau of Standards) US maintains the universal standard cubic centimeter as well as all standards, metric and US standards in their very precise, expensive and highly guarded collection. Most likely many other countries have their own Standards collection. The history of the use of a cube dates at least to 4000 B.C.? or earlier in Egyptian culture...in the form of dice? and building blocks; but was not only unique to their culture. Early Chinese also had their standard cube by at least 2000 B.C. The idea of the cube probably came from observing natural cubic pyrite or other minerials with a cubic habit. The first use of the cube associated with meteorites perhaps was by the Japanese in Antartica. Caveat: I may be incorrect. Quiz: Do cubic forms exist in meteorites and in which minerials? A prize will be rewarded for the most correct and detailed answer. Thank you and cube on, Dirk RossTokyo __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dho 025 lunar
Hi, Dave Harris asked me to post this... Anyone have any thoughts regarding the nature of the vesicular clasts in the lunar Dho 025? Looks like a black pumice stone inclusion! The clasts themseves are a couple of mm across and contain numerous little bubbles/vesicles. I was wondering where the vesicles come from, what gases were trapped and so on ! Any thoughts anyone? Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dho 025 lunar
Anyone have any thoughts regarding the nature of the vesicular clasts in the lunar Dho 025? The clasts themselves are a couple of mm across and contain numerous little bubbles / vesicles. I was wondering where the vesicles come from, what gases were trapped and so on ! These melt pockets indicate intense shock after compaction by an impact event on the Moon. You are probably looking at melt glass (shock-melted plagioclase, anorthite and maybe silica glass) and the gases that were trapped are probably noble gases (not sure with regard to the noble gases). Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Dho 025 lunar
Hello Bernd, It is well possible that untrapped noble gases are the source of the vesicles. Dhofar 025 is a lunar regolith and so should contain large amounts of solar type noble gases (He-4, Ne-20) due to its long-time exposure to the solar wind. However, it contains only small amounts of solar-type gases, which is an indication of thermal metamorphism due to heavy shock. Other lunar regolith breccia like Y-983885 or QUE 93069 contain noble gases of up to 0.03 ccm/g material. Dhofar is depleted in such gases by two orders of magnitude. Instant outgassing of these gases (which were trapped in the silicates) by an impact event can explain the bubbles. See also: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2001/pdf/1502.pdf Cheers, Jörn Koblitz / MetBase -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 21. Februar 2005 13:31 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Dho 025 lunar Anyone have any thoughts regarding the nature of the vesicular clasts in the lunar Dho 025? The clasts themselves are a couple of mm across and contain numerous little bubbles / vesicles. I was wondering where the vesicles come from, what gases were trapped and so on ! These melt pockets indicate intense shock after compaction by an impact event on the Moon. You are probably looking at melt glass (shock-melted plagioclase, anorthite and maybe silica glass) and the gases that were trapped are probably noble gases (not sure with regard to the noble gases). Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] What's in a name?
I woud like to see a meteorite fall by the shores of: Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg Located in Webster Ma, at the boundary of Ma, Connecticut and Rhode Island. Most popular( but probably not the most accurate) translation: You fish on your side, I fish on my side, and nobody fishes in the middle. -Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] icy dead people
Or icy dead planet, at least: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7039 'Pack ice' suggests frozen sea on Mars 11:48 21 February 2005 NewScientist.com news service Kelly Young A frozen sea, surviving as blocks of pack ice, may lie just beneath the surface of Mars, suggest observations from Europe's Mars Express spacecraft. The sea is just 5 north of the Martian equator and would be the first discovery of a large body of water beyond the planet's polar ice caps. Images from the High Resolution Stereo Camera on Mars Express show raft-like ground structures - dubbed plates - that look similar to ice formations near Earth's poles, according to an international team of scientists. But the site of the plates, near the equator, means that sunlight should have melted any ice there. So the team suggests that a layer of volcanic ash, perhaps a few centimetres thick, may protect the structures. I think it's fairly plausible, says Michael Carr, an expert on Martian water at the US Geological Survey in Menlo Park, California, who was part of the team. He says scientists had previously suspected there was a past water source north of the Elysium plates. We know where the water came from, Carr told New Scientist. You can trace the valleys carved by water down to this area. He says the evidence is compelling for past flooding near the plates. Maybe the ice is still there in the ground, protected by a volcanic cover, as they suggest, he says. There is abundant evidence for the past presence of water on Mars but today it appears relatively dry, with water ice confined to the planet's polar caps. Remote observations of hydrogen atoms by NASA's Odyssey spacecraft in 2002 hinted that ice might be locked in the top metre of soil at lower latitudes. But the evidence was inconclusive as the signal could have come from minerals exposed to water in the past. 45 metres deep The team of researchers, led by John Murray at the Open University, UK, estimates the submerged ice sea is about 800 by 900 kilometres in size and averages 45 metres deep. Images of the pack-ice-like plates can be seen in this PDF document, which was not embargoed when New Scientist first viewed it on 15 February. The paper is for a presentation to be made at the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Texas on March 18. A talk with the same title is scheduled to be given by Murray at the 1st Mars Express Science Conference in Noordwijk, the Netherlands, today. The team arrived at the depth estimate by studying craters in the plates. They say the craters appear too shallow for their diameters - suggesting ice is filling them up. Moreover, the surface appears unusually level - as if ice were beneath it. This evidence suggests the plates are not just imprints left by ice that has now completely vanished. Crater counts indicate the age of the plates is about 5 million years. In their paper, the researchers trace a possible history for the underground ice. It begins with huge masses of ice floating in water on Mars. The ice was later covered with volcanic ash, preventing it from sublimating away into the thin atmosphere. Then, the ice broke up and drifted before the remaining liquid water froze. All of the ice not protected by ash sublimated away, leaving the pack ice plates behind. If the reported hypothesis is true, then this would be a prime candidate landing site to search for possible extant life on Mars, says Brian Hynek, a research scientist at the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado at Boulder, US. Lava flow One problem with this proposed frozen sea is that there is very little water vapour in the Martian atmosphere today. Carr says that if there had been relatively recent sublimation, as the scientists propose, some traces of water should remain in the atmosphere. Also, similar plate formations have been seen on Mars before but attributed to solidified lava. But Murray's team says a lava flow does not fit their observations. These plates are up to two times larger than known lava plates on Earth, and they leave behind smooth, straight lanes when they ram into craters and islands. These observations imply an extremely mobile fluid, with similar characteristics to water, the researchers write. Carr says there are other regions on Mars with similar plate formations, meaning this might not be the only subterranean water. But ultimately, it may be difficult to prove whether the frozen sea still exists today. The MARSIS radar, which will soon be deployed on Mars Express, should be able to detect underground liquid water but may have trouble differentiating between ice and rocky soil. And the ice is not visible directly. To preserve it, you've got to bury it, Carr says. But if you bury it, you can't detect it. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Identifying Meteorites w/out Labels?
Dear List: Recently a few meteorite slices were donated to a local club in Georgia. One of them does not have a label but we do know that they all originally came from Ward's Scientific a long time ago. (Maybe 30-40 years ago?) Is it possible to identify a known meteorite visually with some accuracy? I know we can narrow it down to Stony, Iron or Stony-Iron, but could you say with some certainty Oh, sure, that's a Nantan, Campo, or Peekskill (whatever). Thanks for your profound thoughts, Anita __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: What's in a name?
For those searching in eastern Pennsylvania, how about: Paradise Bird In Hand Blue Ball and last but not leastIntercourse. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Identifying Meteorites w/out Labels?
It is highly possible to get an accurate id, since there were not so many meteorites around at that time. Photo? Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Anita Westlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Identifying Meteorites w/out Labels? Dear List: Recently a few meteorite slices were donated to a local club in Georgia. One of them does not have a label but we do know that they all originally came from Ward's Scientific a long time ago. (Maybe 30-40 years ago?) Is it possible to identify a known meteorite visually with some accuracy? I know we can narrow it down to Stony, Iron or Stony-Iron, but could you say with some certainty Oh, sure, that's a Nantan, Campo, or Peekskill (whatever). Thanks for your profound thoughts, Anita __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Identifying Meteorites w/out Labels?
Nope, no photo available. I will try to get a picture of it and have someone scan it for me but it may take awhile as it is not in my possession (yet!) Anita -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:29 AM To: Anita Westlake; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Identifying Meteorites w/out Labels? It is highly possible to get an accurate id, since there were not so many meteorites around at that time. Photo? Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Anita Westlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Identifying Meteorites w/out Labels? Dear List: Recently a few meteorite slices were donated to a local club in Georgia. One of them does not have a label but we do know that they all originally came from Ward's Scientific a long time ago. (Maybe 30-40 years ago?) Is it possible to identify a known meteorite visually with some accuracy? I know we can narrow it down to Stony, Iron or Stony-Iron, but could you say with some certainty Oh, sure, that's a Nantan, Campo, or Peekskill (whatever). Thanks for your profound thoughts, Anita __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] selling haag pieces
Good morning list.I see some people have been or are trying to sell haag pieces they got from tucson.Well that is thier right if they want to.I see bob c. tried to sell some of his pieces and was unsucessful.I still get people emailing me to sell my pieces.I continue to say no.I admit I did put up my macy on ebay to sell.But I believe that that was the one I could let go.Matt morgan bought some of his pieces,so mike farmer,me,dave f. and so on.If we want to sell them that is our business.I am primarily a collecter.Really nothing more.Like bob haag told me 3 years ago.If you have 1 meteorite you are a collecter.If you have 2 meteorites you are a dealer.Sounds right!But what I think is out of character is saying that it is NOT RIGHT!UNETHICAL!YADA YADA!!Hey if we make money because we want to upgrade to something nicer,again,that is our business.And even when I bought some stuff from bob haag a few years ago, he said,hey if you make money off my name,more power to you.It is like michael jordan.When you sell something with his name(real autograph),you are selling his name because there is clout behind his name.As in the meteorite realm,the name HAAG has major clout behind it.I see some major meteorite dealers bought so they can make money or upgrade to something better, or just wanted the pieces in thier collection because they thought could own really top of the pieces.Just some thoughts from a very passionate collecter. steve arnold, chicago,usa11 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] selling haag pieces
And I have an idea, what you have to do first with the cash you're making now with your stones. An impatient Martin. - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] selling haag pieces Good morning list.I see some people have been or are trying to sell haag pieces they got from tucson.Well that is thier right if they want to.I see bob c. tried to sell some of his pieces and was unsucessful.I still get people emailing me to sell my pieces.I continue to say no.I admit I did put up my macy on ebay to sell.But I believe that that was the one I could let go.Matt morgan bought some of his pieces,so mike farmer,me,dave f. and so on.If we want to sell them that is our business.I am primarily a collecter.Really nothing more.Like bob haag told me 3 years ago.If you have 1 meteorite you are a collecter.If you have 2 meteorites you are a dealer.Sounds right!But what I think is out of character is saying that it is NOT RIGHT!UNETHICAL!YADA YADA!!Hey if we make money because we want to upgrade to something nicer,again,that is our business.And even when I bought some stuff from bob haag a few years ago, he said,hey if you make money off my name,more power to you.It is like michael jordan.When you sell something with his name(real autograph),you are selling his name because there is clout behind his name.As in the meteorite realm,the name HAAG has major clout behind it.I see some major meteorite dealers bought so they can make money or upgrade to something better, or just wanted the pieces in thier collection because they thought could own really top of the pieces.Just some thoughts from a very passionate collecter. steve arnold, chicago,usa11 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] What's in a name?
Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg! ...a name that would then probably be soon abbreviated as 15 g? .. I remember that the village with the longuest mane (world record) is somewhere in Whales. Obviously can't remember it (who can help ?) I just remember another remote place, a small village in South Iceland, where, years ago, we had to stop to repare a flat tire. It is Kirkjubaejärlklaustur. I fogot the meaning (it is a question of a farm yard behind some church ..) but perhaps our scandinavien friends can help? At least, there were nice black magnetic pebbles on the nearby beach. But at that time, I had a vague idea of what a meteorite can represent. And our magnets were just used to collect odd basaltic rocks...I bet we missed the first authentified Icelandic meteorite! Cheers, Zelimir A 10:03 21/02/05 -0500, vous avez écrit : I woud like to see a meteorite fall by the shores of: Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg Located in Webster Ma, at the boundary of Ma, Connecticut and Rhode Island. Most popular( but probably not the most accurate) translation: You fish on your side, I fish on my side, and nobody fishes in the middle. -Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's in a name?
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:00:09 +0100, Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember that the village with the longuest mane (world record) is somewhere in Whales. Obviously can't remember it (who can help ?) Google is your friend. http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/rbeard/name.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cubic forms of meteoritic minerals Winners Announced Pt.1
Dear List, I had many replies from members of this list. Bernd had the most complete list and wins the First Prize. Harald Shehlik wins second prize because he included more information, but his list did not include as many cubic minerals as Bernd. Tom K. wins the Proud Tom prize for his Proud Tom answer that, it depends on how big you cut the meteorite into a cube. Thank you for all that participated!!! First Prize: 50grams of Potter, Nebraska. Second Prize: Special impactite. Proud Tom Prize: a meteorite. I will in Pt.2 send Harald`s answer. Perhaps someone on this list will kindly add these answers to their website ((please cite Bernd Pauli, Harald Stehlik and Dirk Ross (I contributed to three of Bernd`s answers)if used)). Best to all, from Tokyo, Dirk Ross --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 21 Feb 2005 09:39:00 01) cristobalite (SiO2) 02) gold (Au) 03) silver (Ar) 04) copper (Cu) 05) kamacite (alpha-FeNi) 06) pyrite (FeS2) 07) taenite (gamma-FeNi) 09) halite (NaCl) 10) sylvite (KCl) 11) periclase (MgO) 12) perovskite (CaTiO3) 13) diamond (C) 14) haxonite (FeNi)23C6) 15) carlsbergite (CrN) 16) sphalerite (ZnS) 17) daubreelite (FeCr2S4) 18) djerfisherite (K3CuFe12S14) 19) pentlandite (FeNi)9S8) 20) ferromagnesian alabandite (Fe0.2Mg0.3Mn0.5)S 21) magnetite (Fe3O4) 22) wEtite (Fe1-xO) 23) chromite (FeCr2O4) 24) spinel (MgAl2O4) 25) hercynite (FeMg)Al2O4) 26) ulvöspinel (Fe2TiO4) 27) galena (PbS) 28) cliftonite (cliftonitic graphite = C) 29) austenite (face centered cubic austenite)*** 30) cuprite (Cu2O) 31) suessite (Fe3Si) 32) cubic martensite (alpha2-FeNi) 33) melilite (square cross sections / [(Ca,Na)2(Mg,Al)(si,Al)2O7]) 34) gehlenite (square cross sections / [Ca2Al(AlSiO7)]) 35) akermanite (square cross sections) / [(Ca2MgSi2O7)]) 36) sodalite [(Na4(Si3Al3)O12Cl)] 37) roaldite (FeNi)4N 38) osbornite (TiN) Bernd *** My checking indicates that Austenite is the terrestrial form of Taenite. dirk __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] What's in a name?
I remember that the village with the longuest mane (world record) is somewhere in Whales. Obviously can't remember it (who can help ?) They have a website too : http://llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwantysiliogogogoch.co.uk/ Regards Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zelimir Gabelica Sent: 21 February 2005 18:00 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] What's in a name? Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg! ...a name that would then probably be soon abbreviated as 15 g? .. I remember that the village with the longuest mane (world record) is somewhere in Whales. Obviously can't remember it (who can help ?) I just remember another remote place, a small village in South Iceland, where, years ago, we had to stop to repare a flat tire. It is Kirkjubaejärlklaustur. I fogot the meaning (it is a question of a farm yard behind some church ..) but perhaps our scandinavien friends can help? At least, there were nice black magnetic pebbles on the nearby beach. But at that time, I had a vague idea of what a meteorite can represent. And our magnets were just used to collect odd basaltic rocks...I bet we missed the first authentified Icelandic meteorite! Cheers, Zelimir A 10:03 21/02/05 -0500, vous avez écrit : I woud like to see a meteorite fall by the shores of: Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg Located in Webster Ma, at the boundary of Ma, Connecticut and Rhode Island. Most popular( but probably not the most accurate) translation: You fish on your side, I fish on my side, and nobody fishes in the middle. -Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cubic Minerals in Meteorites - Winners Pt.2
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:26:06 +0100 Harald Wrote: The more common ones (not only in meteorites: Chromite (Fe++Cr2O4), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: F d3m Halite (NaCl), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Daubreelite (Fe++Cr2S4), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: F d3m Diamond (C), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Gold (Au), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Kamacite (alpha-(Fe,Ni)), - Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Spinel (MgAl2O4), - Isometric - Hexoctahedral: H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space maybe Ferrosilicite (FeSi) - but not IMA approved... Harald Thanks Harald! And again to ALL that participated...please learn something from this contest...I also did. SIncerely, Dirk RossTokyo P.S. Dan Wray deserves an Honorable Mention __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: 50% Off Sale/Auctions Also Ending today!
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: 50% Off Sale/Auctions Also Ending today! Hello, I am offering another 50% Off Sale in My ebay store. ALL Buy it Now Items are 50% off. Just click on the Buy it Now feature, Go to paypal and do a manual invoice and deduct 50% off. If you have trouble with the invoice...Just let me know that you are done shopping and I will send you one. Go to: http://www.stores.ebay.com/voyagebotanicanaturalhistory Also about 50 Auctions ending today! Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Hi Dirk, If I understand correctly, blog is the term used outside the US for a web site.is that correct? If so, do you know if it is an acronym for something? - B.L.O.G. ? RSVP Thanks, Michael PS: ALSO - Registered Mail used to consistantly cost me $25 to Japan. The Post Office in the US said it was because that was what Japan charged to process a registered package. However, I sent a specimen to an absentee buyer last week and it was only $11- I was amazed. Do you know if there has been some change in the post office in Japan? on 2/21/05 2:21 AM, drtanuki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, Is anyone interested in creating a Blog for meteorites where rumor, lies, cheats, disinformation, fact, fiction, humor (Proud Tom), theives of meteorites, etc could be discussed? I do not have the time nor skills to create such a site. If anyone decides to use this idea, please list me as the seed for this idea. Thank you. Sincerely, Dirk RossTokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Michael, Thanks for your questions. Blogs are a new form of media on the internetsuch as a tabloid or new form of newspaper (some are biased, some factual, some lies, some urban ledgends). I do not know where the term blog came from. Blogs cover news that is not covered in the mainstream mediasome covering topics that are government sensitive, FCC sensitive, slanderous or libelous, politically incorrect, etc. An example of a Blog topic in meteoritesmeteorite dealers arrested in stealing meteorites from other countriesMOST INFAMOUS...Ron Farrell, etc. Another possible one, who is making up names for meteorites that are transported or relocated. Scumbags in the business, would be another possible topic. Deadbeat customers. Blogs are from annomyous sources and the person who is posting remains unknown. About postage to Japan; there has NEVER been a $25USD fee for registered mail to Japan...someone has told you incorrectly in the past at the USPO. Most samples that I receive cost from $1.80-$2.60 for First Class and $8.00-11.00 Global Priority and 12-15$ for Registered. I hope that this provides information to you and others that may have similar questions. __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-2: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Hello Dirk, Michael, and List, Blogs are from annomyous sources and the person who is posting remains unknown. I found this in my Concise Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English edited by Paul Beale: blog (noun) A servant-boy in one of the houses: Rugby Schoolboys: from ca. 1860. A perversion of bloke. Hence a common boy of the town. No idea what they are talking about but that's what I find :-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Hi List Dirk wrote: I do not know where the term blog came from. It derives from Web log. There now we are all web geeks.or should that be beeks. :) Mike -- Mike Jensen IMCA 4264 Bill Jensen IMCA 2359 Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 Michael, Thanks for your questions. Blogs are a new form of media on the internetsuch as a tabloid or new form of newspaper (some are biased, some factual, some lies, some urban ledgends). I do not know where the term blog came from. Blogs cover news that is not covered in the mainstream mediasome covering topics that are government sensitive, FCC sensitive, slanderous or libelous, politically incorrect, etc. An example of a Blog topic in meteoritesmeteorite dealers arrested in stealing meteorites from other countriesMOST INFAMOUS...Ron Farrell, etc. Another possible one, who is making up names for meteorites that are transported or relocated. Scumbags in the business, would be another possible topic. Deadbeat customers. Blogs are from annomyous sources and the person who is posting remains unknown. About postage to Japan; there has NEVER been a $25USD fee for registered mail to Japan...someone has told you incorrectly in the past at the USPO. Most samples that I receive cost from $1.80-$2.60 for First Class and $8.00-11.00 Global Priority and 12-15$ for Registered. I hope that this provides information to you and others that may have similar questions. __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Cubic forms of meteoritic minerals Winners Announced Pt.1
Hello List, 22) wEtite (Fe1-xO) This should read wüstite or wuestite! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cubic Minerals in Meteoirtes Oops! More on Winner! Pt.2 cont.
Dear List, Harald actually had more but they were sent in an email that I had overlooked. Here are more of his answers. Thanks!! dirk...tokyo --- Harald Stehlik (VI/SEA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:01:02 +0100 here we go: (all described only from meteorites yet... Majorite (Mg3(Fe,Al,Si)2(SiO4)3), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: I a3d Niningerite ((Mg,Fe++,Mn)S), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: F m3m Oldhamite ((Ca,Mg,Fe)S), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: F m3m Osbornite (TiN), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: F m3m Ringwoodite (Mg2SiO4) - high press. polymorph of forsterite. - Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: F d3m Roaldite (Fe4N), Isometric - Hextetrahedral - H-M Symbol (4 3m) Space Group: P 43m Suessite ((Fe,Ni)3Si), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: I m3m Taenite (gamma-(Fe,Ni) ), Isometric - Hexoctahedral - H-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: F m3m Zhanghengite ((Cu,Zn,Fe,Al,Cr) ), - Isometric - HexoctahedralH-M Symbol (4/m 3 2/m) Space Group: I m3m i think this are the most important ismometric minerals in Meteorites i will likely write an article about Ringwoodite in L-chondrites this year... :-) best regards and wishes from Austria Harald __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:42:36 -0800 (PST), drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lies, some urban ledgends). I do not know where the term blog came from. Blogs cover news that is not It is short for weB LOG. As in a log on the web. Basically fad of putting a personal diary on the net so all of the world can see what you are doing on a moment-to-moment, day-to-day basis. A vanity internet site, basicly. Among the millions that nobody cares about or ever reads, a few have grown to be popular news sites. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 13:19, Michael L Blood wrote: Hi Dirk, If I understand correctly, blog is the term used outside the US for a web site.is that correct? From Google: Definitions of Blog -- (weB LOG) on the Web: A blog is basically a journal that is available on the web. The activity of updating a blog is blogging and someone who keeps a blog is a blogger. Blogs are typically updated daily using software that allows people with little or no technical background to update and maintain the blog. Postings on a blog are almost always arranged in cronological order with the most recent additions featured most prominantly. www.matisse.net/files/glossary.html Regards, Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Aubrites from the desert
Hi everyone, Just wondering if any Aubrites have been recovered from Africa yet. Thanks, Jamie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Aubrites from the desert
No, not one from Arabia or NWA. Strange, it just shows how rare the Aubrites are. Mike - Original Message - From: Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Aubrites from the desert Hi everyone, Just wondering if any Aubrites have been recovered from Africa yet. Thanks, Jamie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's in a name? Name your meteorite for fame?
Aloha - That should be Ka'a'awa :-) And as someone who lives in Volcano :-) ... I keep looking at dark colored rocks on the ground - but there are just too many there are lapili from Kilauea, and Pele's tears - but realistically, almost everything on the ground is WAY younger than most (make that all) meteorites. - A lot of the Honolulu meteorites landed in the water, some were collected on the decks of ships. I don't think there was any systematic mapping, but you might check with the crew at UH Manoa. cheers - ted Brattstrom --- tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: raise you: Kaaawa Volcano (there's actually a town called this, on the slopes of Kilauea) Tracy Latimer btw, does anyone have any information on the Honolulu strewnfield? Was it ever plotted? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Blog is short for weBLOG. Kind of an online diary, unvetted by anyone but the poster(s). Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
List, Someone unkown to me has set up a meteoriteblog at: http://meteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Blogaway.anything goes...I am not the owner or creator of this blog. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Dear Dirk; Yup, it's anyone's game. The only respondent has a profile I can not locate. To set up my own blog is uncomprehendable (three attempts and nothing yet)who designed this stuff any way. Leave me to Art and the meteorite central crowd, the greatest group of bloggers ever assembled. Where planting seed is easy and fruitful, and ducks love it too. Dave F. drtanuki wrote: List, Someone unkown to me has set up a meteoriteblog at: http://meteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Blogaway.anything goes...I am not the owner or creator of this blog. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
I sort of wish it wasnt set up in the meteoritehunters name. Meteorite-hunter, meteoritehunter, and meteoritehunters are my ebay names, meteoritehunter.com is mine, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] my email, so who is it? I am already getting emails from people asking me if it is my blog. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game? Dear Dirk; Yup, it's anyone's game. The only respondent has a profile I can not locate. To set up my own blog is uncomprehendable (three attempts and nothing yet)who designed this stuff any way. Leave me to Art and the meteorite central crowd, the greatest group of bloggers ever assembled. Where planting seed is easy and fruitful, and ducks love it too. Dave F. drtanuki wrote: List, Someone unkown to me has set up a meteoriteblog at: http://meteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Blogaway.anything goes...I am not the owner or creator of this blog. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Picture Post
If anyone sent me an email with a picture of the day from Jan. 1st - 28th and haven't seen it posted please resend. Even though I clicked on Keep As New AOL has somehow deleted all my emails. Thanks for all your support! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. 932 Hanging Rock Road Boiling Springs, South Carolina 29316-7401 USA Tel: (864) 578-5188 SPACE ROCKS, INC. http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/spacerocksinc.html ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Calendar.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] selling haag pieces
Steve, You wrote that Bob Haag told you three years ago that if you own 2 meteorites then you are considered a dealer? Why would Bob Haag say such a ridiculous thing? Bob - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] selling haag pieces Good morning list.I see some people have been or are trying to sell haag pieces they got from tucson.Well that is thier right if they want to.I see bob c. tried to sell some of his pieces and was unsucessful.I still get people emailing me to sell my pieces.I continue to say no.I admit I did put up my macy on ebay to sell.But I believe that that was the one I could let go.Matt morgan bought some of his pieces,so mike farmer,me,dave f. and so on.If we want to sell them that is our business.I am primarily a collecter.Really nothing more.Like bob haag told me 3 years ago.If you have 1 meteorite you are a collecter.If you have 2 meteorites you are a dealer.Sounds right!But what I think is out of character is saying that it is NOT RIGHT!UNETHICAL!YADA YADA!!Hey if we make money because we want to upgrade to something nicer,again,that is our business.And even when I bought some stuff from bob haag a few years ago, he said,hey if you make money off my name,more power to you.It is like michael jordan.When you sell something with his name(real autograph),you are selling his name because there is clout behind his name.As in the meteorite realm,the name HAAG has major clout behind it.I see some major meteorite dealers bought so they can make money or upgrade to something better, or just wanted the pieces in thier collection because they thought could own really top of the pieces.Just some thoughts from a very passionate collecter. steve arnold, chicago,usa11 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WARNING: meteoriteblog.com
All list members be warned: The new meteorite Blog site has very, very quickly degenerated to becoming a sewer in less than 30 posts. In the first 30 minutes of existence, among other distasteful posts, someone used Jew in the context of a racial slur and one person made an obscene post claiming to be Michael Blood. I, for one, will never, ever involve myself with that site again. It is a cesspool. Sincerely, Michael Blood on 2/21/05 12:56 PM, David Freeman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Dirk; Yup, it's anyone's game. The only respondent has a profile I can not locate. To set up my own blog is uncomprehendable (three attempts and nothing yet)who designed this stuff any way. Leave me to Art and the meteorite central crowd, the greatest group of bloggers ever assembled. Where planting seed is easy and fruitful, and ducks love it too. Dave F. drtanuki wrote: List, Someone unkown to me has set up a meteoriteblog at: http://meteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Blogaway.anything goes...I am not the owner or creator of this blog. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Michael, While the description several listess have given of a blog, namely that it is a personal web log, is accurate, it is perhaps also educatinal to note that the bloggers are emerging as competitors to the mainstream news media. The story at the link below illustrates the tremendous impact the bloggers are having on the mainstream media in the US, being at least indirectly responsible for the resignation of Dan Rather, among others: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3037816 Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Charlie and List, Thanks for your posts concerning blogs. So far the meteoriteblog list isn`t creating anything positive; but given time I believe it will allow scandals, etc. come out into the mainstream...so that buyers and sellers will know what is happening behind their backs. The users of a blog will learn to calm down and produce something positive or the blog will go away. Photos of meteorites and prices if you want to sell can be posted...it could also be used as a live auction. Thanks. Have patience and perhaps the users of the blog will use it positively. Sincerely, Dirk Ross __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: meteoriteblog.com
So far the meteoriteblog list isn`t creating anything positive I am with Michael Blood on this one. It never will produce anything positive with such a sordid fundament. As a German with a very shacky recent history - the Nazi era - if someone doesn't get what I'm talking about, I am very critical about such remarks like dirty Jews , the disrespect of human dignity, religion, etc. This somehow reminds me of the Ku-Klux-Klan methods :-(( Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Trying to contact Peter
Dear Peter, List; I am trying to contact Peter Scherff. Can I get a phone number/address, please email me off list. Thank you, Dave Freeman mjwy __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Hi Dirk, Good to hear from you. How does your statement below relate to your statement less than 2 hrs ago claiming you did not set this up and it is not yours? Also, are you suggesting we should indulge a context with racial slurs, obscenity false identification because maybe something good will come out of it .. eventually? When I was young I used to let racial slurs go by, figuring eventually the ignorant will come around - and, besides, you can't really change an ignorant person's mind. The older I got - and totally now, I will not let a racial comment go by - EVER. I take it completely personally - as though I am a Jew, African American, Mexican, etc. I believe when everyone who is not a racist reacts this way 100% of the time, the racists will be shut out and shut down - and racism will, eventually be extremely minimal and very difficult to pass on to future generations. Either that, or the racists will become extremely isolated and at least not be polluting the minds of the young. I, for one will not abide racist commentary. Period. Obscenity - well, I have a tolerance for that. However, Claiming to be another when posting to a site - especially when expressing obscenities (or racism, etc) is both cowardly and completely unacceptable. So, Dirk, don't ask me to abide by the above practices. They can lay golden eggs on that site for all I care. Until and unless racism and false identification is at zero, it is way out of bounds for me. Period. Best wishes, Michael on 2/21/05 2:13 PM, drtanuki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie and List, Thanks for your posts concerning blogs. So far the meteoriteblog list isn`t creating anything positive; but given time I believe it will allow scandals, etc. come out into the mainstream...so that buyers and sellers will know what is happening behind their backs. The users of a blog will learn to calm down and produce something positive or the blog will go away. Photos of meteorites and prices if you want to sell can be posted...it could also be used as a live auction. Thanks. Have patience and perhaps the users of the blog will use it positively. Sincerely, Dirk Ross __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: more on meteoriteblog.com Request from Michael Blood
Dear List, Here is a reply to Michael`s request. Dirk Ross --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:55:24 -0800 Subject: more on meteoriteblog.com From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Dirk, Thanks. I understand. May I suggest you post this response to the list so others understand, too? Thanks, again, Michael on 2/21/05 2:51 PM, drtanuki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, First I only made a request on the list for someone to set up a blog. Someone did...I do not know who. I am Jewish and German and I find some of the posts offesensive also; but I did not set up the site and cannot therefore take it down. People will come to their senses or it will go into disuse by its users. Best, Dirk __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: more on meteoriteblog.com
Dear Dirk; I have seen blog's in the past, and they are a rather fickle friend at best. The car door is unlocked and the key is in the ignition. And the beast is parked in an unsavory neighborhood, the unmoderated web. They remind me of a perfectly good car without a steering wheel. Sad part is, they are not visited by just meteorite hunters/collectors. They are visited by any bafoon that can type in M-E-T-E-O-R-I-T-E meaning those that are behind masks, behind bars, from mental institutions, the largest scam artists, felons-with-out-a-cause inc. , and the likes of all who would commit fraud with meteorites, and all sorts of non proper avenues that positive meteorite associates would not really be found in. Gangs inhabit blog sites. Seemingly this could open a very negative doorway for vile sorts to enter meteorites. Motive: I see no reason for me to visit such an unmoderated contraption, especially when we don't even now who hosts/ sponsors the thing Kind of reminds me of the verse in that Alice's Restaurant song as the fellow sits on the bench and the others all moved away. baby rapers, father rapers and litter bugs included! Dave F drtanuki wrote: Dear List, Here is a reply to Michael`s request. Dirk Ross --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:55:24 -0800 Subject: more on meteoriteblog.com From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Dirk, Thanks. I understand. May I suggest you post this response to the list so others understand, too? Thanks, again, Michael on 2/21/05 2:51 PM, drtanuki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, First I only made a request on the list for someone to set up a blog. Someone did...I do not know who. I am Jewish and German and I find some of the posts offesensive also; but I did not set up the site and cannot therefore take it down. People will come to their senses or it will go into disuse by its users. Best, Dirk __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Venting.
Dave, I even heard (from a blogger ?) that some of the pieces bought from Bob were sold again before the buyers left Tucson that weekend. While they were still warm ya might say. While I'm pretty sure I would never sell a piece in the immediate time after just buying one from BH...I could see selling one later at a profit. I don't think I would sell right away, and at a loss at that...such things were said to have happended (blogger again). Sounds a little goofy to me. Lastly, I highly recommend that folks should not say they: will NEVER DO THIS, or I ALWAYS DO THAT. Usually such statements come back to haunt them. Bloggingly Yours, John -- Original message from Dave Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Greetings. This is something that has got under my skin a bit this past week, and need to do a little venting, even though it might bring some people down on me. After being in Tucson at the show a couple of weeks ago, and spending a bit of time in Bob Haag`s room, and seeing the great sales that he offered to people, including myself. I`m just amazed that these same people are now turning around, selling thier specimens that they got from Bob, and using HIS NAME to make a profit from these purchases from him! I know that this is probably just business, but seems a little unethical to me. They are not bad people, but just seem a bit too greedy! I know of a couple of pieces that other collectors would have liked, but were gone before they even had a chance at a great deal, specimen and provinance! Hopefully this kind of practice does not affect future deals from certain individuals, and REAL collectors can benefit from the these kinds of sales, and appreciate the specimen for what it is, and not something to make money on. There, that is all I have to say on that, and I WILL NOT be selling the pieces that I got from Bob! Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT Blog
This meteorite blog looks the the work of Proud Tom, run amok. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: more on meteoriteblog.com
Hi, Dave, Dirk, List! That bad neighborhood the blog resides in is called the Real World, the Home of the Crazies in the Land of the Fevered. It reminds me of the Days Before the Web, when there was no www (the only case of three words that only have three syllables altogether but somehow need a nine-syllable abbreviation). Yes, there was an InterNet for more than a decade before Al Gore invented the Web or Steve Jobs invented the HyperTextMarkupLanguage, and the sites on it were BBS's, or Bulletin Board Systems, all local and structured exactly like Blogs, except that everything looked like it had been typed on a typewriter. In the early 1980's, the big BBS's (CompuServe, GEnie, Delphi) all had phone nodes all over ther USA, so that they functioned very much like the InterNet, with text displays creeping along the wires at 300 baud. You could watch the individual alphabetic characters printing to your computer screen like there was a ghostly slow typist somewhere out there sending to you. Being from a Western state, Dave, you can recognize that I am pulling the Old Settler routine here, Why I kin recollect the Great Electron Drive of '85... I was very big on GEnie in the 80's and had my own pages there as a commercial software developer. But seriously, that's all the blogs are --- a 25-year-old technology updated to the Web, and I for one find blogs very entertaining, like poking in a trash heap with a (long) stick to stir the vermin. Whoever created this one knows our little List very well and is having fun with us, but it'll be gone e'er long, so enjoy it! Sterling Webb --- David Freeman wrote: Dear Dirk; I have seen blog's in the past, and they are a rather fickle friend at best. The car door is unlocked and the key is in the ignition. And the beast is parked in an unsavory neighborhood, the unmoderated web. They remind me of a perfectly good car without a steering wheel. Sad part is, they are not visited by just meteorite hunters/collectors. They are visited by any bafoon that can type in M-E-T-E-O-R-I-T-E meaning those that are behind masks, behind bars, from mental institutions, the largest scam artists, felons-with-out-a-cause inc. , and the likes of all who would commit fraud with meteorites, and all sorts of non proper avenues that positive meteorite associates would not really be found in. Gangs inhabit blog sites. Seemingly this could open a very negative doorway for vile sorts to enter meteorites. Motive: I see no reason for me to visit such an unmoderated contraption, especially when we don't even now who hosts/ sponsors the thing Kind of reminds me of the verse in that Alice's Restaurant song as the fellow sits on the bench and the others all moved away. baby rapers, father rapers and litter bugs included! Dave F drtanuki wrote: Dear List, Here is a reply to Michael`s request. Dirk Ross --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:55:24 -0800 Subject: more on meteoriteblog.com From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Dirk, Thanks. I understand. May I suggest you post this response to the list so others understand, too? Thanks, again, Michael on 2/21/05 2:51 PM, drtanuki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, First I only made a request on the list for someone to set up a blog. Someone did...I do not know who. I am Jewish and German and I find some of the posts offesensive also; but I did not set up the site and cannot therefore take it down. People will come to their senses or it will go into disuse by its users. Best, Dirk __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's in a name? Name your meteorite for fame?
Names I'd like to see for meteorites: A-lien (Taiwan) Avarice (after Avarice Mount, Australia) Expensive (after Expensive Tank, New Mexico) Impossible (after Impossible Canyon, Calif.) Pandora (New Zealand) Priceless (after the Priceless Mine, Ariz.) Stolen (Norway) Unique (Cuba) Unknown (Zimbabwe) Useless (after Useless Inlet, Australia) and of course, for a stone, Rosetta (UK) Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Try to contact : eBay laserprogram user
If You are eBay user ID# laserprogram pls contact me My emails to You returning PS. Sry for OT -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Fwd: more on meteoriteblog.com Request fromMichael Blood
Most blogs are sadly un-monitored shouting matches for Hippocrates who do not have the guts to say what they will print to your face. A monitored, closed list for people with the same interests will always be best. IMHA CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of drtanuki Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 6:07 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: more on meteoriteblog.com Request fromMichael Blood Dear List, Here is a reply to Michael`s request. Dirk Ross --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:55:24 -0800 Subject: more on meteoriteblog.com From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Dirk, Thanks. I understand. May I suggest you post this response to the list so others understand, too? Thanks, again, Michael on 2/21/05 2:51 PM, drtanuki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, First I only made a request on the list for someone to set up a blog. Someone did...I do not know who. I am Jewish and German and I find some of the posts offesensive also; but I did not set up the site and cannot therefore take it down. People will come to their senses or it will go into disuse by its users. Best, Dirk __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: more on meteoriteblog.com
It's been said that we should appreciate the metlist as it is. This blog is just a reminder of what could be and why that's true. Conflict here has always been minimal in comparison to most lists and all the participants on this list should be applauded for their self control. Even the metlist member that created the blog knows better than to go that far here. It's great to have choices. Bill -- Original message -- From: moni waiblinger-seabridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoever created this one knows our little List very well and is having fun with us, but it'll be gone e'er long, so enjoy it! Sterling Webb Enjoy what? Some idiot pretenting to be that person and tarnishing some ones reputation, that is no having fun. I believe it is pure jealousy. Poor little man couldn't find a meteorite, probably never have and is jealous about the ones who have. So you Sterling enjoy it - guess as long some one is not making you the fool. Sternengruss, Moni From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED],drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: more on meteoriteblog.com Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:45:21 -0600 Hi, Dave, Dirk, List! That bad neighborhood the blog resides in is called the Real World, the Home of the Crazies in the Land of the Fevered. It reminds me of the Days Before the Web, when there was no www (the only case of three words that only have three syllables altogether but somehow need a nine-syllable abbreviation). Yes, there was an InterNet for more than a decade before Al Gore invented the Web or Steve Jobs invented the HyperTextMarkupLanguage, and the sites on it were BBS's, or Bulletin Board Systems, all local and structured exactly like Blogs, except that everything looked like it had been typed on a typewriter. In the early 1980's, the big BBS's (CompuServe, GEnie, Delphi) all had phone nodes all over ther USA, so that they functioned very much like the InterNet, with text displays creeping along the wires at 300 baud. You could watch the individual alphabetic characters printing to your computer screen like there was a ghostly slow typist somewhere out there sending to you. Being from a Western state, Dave, you can recognize that I am pulling the Old Settler routine here, Why I kin recollect the Great Electron Drive of '85... I was very big on GEnie in the 80's and had my own pages there as a commercial software developer. But seriously, that's all the blogs are --- a 25-year-old technology updated to the Web, and I for one find blogs very entertaining, like poking in a trash heap with a (long) stick to stir the vermin. Whoever created this one knows our little List very well and is having fun with us, but it'll be gone e'er long, so enjoy it! Sterling Webb --- David Freeman wrote: Dear Dirk; I have seen blog's in the past, and they are a rather fickle friend at best. The car door is unlocked and the key is in the ignition. And the beast is parked in an unsavory neighborhood, the unmoderated web. They remind me of a perfectly good car without a steering wheel. Sad part is, they are not visited by just meteorite hunters/collectors. They are visited by any bafoon that can type in M-E-T-E-O-R-I-T-E meaning those that are behind masks, behind bars, from mental institutions, the largest scam artists, felons-with-out-a-cause inc. , and the likes of all who would commit fraud with meteorites, and all sorts of non proper avenues that positive meteorite associates would not really be found in. Gangs inhabit blog sites. Seemingly this could open a very negative doorway for vile sorts to enter meteorites. Motive: I see no reason for me to visit such an unmoderated contraption, especially when we don't even now who hosts/ sponsors the thing Kind of reminds me of the verse in that Alice's Restaurant song as the fellow sits on the bench and the others all moved away. baby rapers, father rapers and litter bugs included! Dave F drtanuki wrote: Dear List, Here is a reply to Michael`s request. Dirk Ross --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:55:24 -0800 Subject: more on meteoriteblog.com From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Dirk, Thanks. I understand. May I suggest you post this response to the list so others understand, too? Thanks, again, Michael on
Re: [meteorite-list] What's in a name? Name your meteorite for fame?
Hi Jeff, Unique (Cuba) Is there no Very Unique I just realized the perfect name: Enigma (Georgia, USA, a small town near Tifton; pop 869) (Look at the pop #, as in NWA 869) -Walter - - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's in a name? Name your meteorite for fame? Names I'd like to see for meteorites: A-lien (Taiwan) Avarice (after Avarice Mount, Australia) Expensive (after Expensive Tank, New Mexico) Impossible (after Impossible Canyon, Calif.) Pandora (New Zealand) Priceless (after the Priceless Mine, Ariz.) Stolen (Norway) Unique (Cuba) Unknown (Zimbabwe) Useless (after Useless Inlet, Australia) and of course, for a stone, Rosetta (UK) Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: early days of the intenet (ARPANET)
Hi Sterling, It reminds me of the Days Before the Web, when there was no www ... Yes, there was an InterNet for more than a decade before Al Gore invented the Web or Steve Jobs invented the HyperText- MarkupLanguage, and the sites on it were BBS's, or Bulletin Board Systems... You can go back even further than that. I was logging into the ARPAnet (dial-up, of course) back in 1982 through both MIT and MITRE-TIP, and even then I was a relative latecomer. (MIT was online by mid-1970; MITRE became active in 1971). Well, logging-in isn't quite right -- more like hacking in. (Security was extraordinarily lax in those days.) There was quite a cottage industry of sharing/swapping passwords for various user accounts. Contemporaries of mine (I was born in 1962) may remember the ADVENT game (e.g. xyzzy, plugh, You are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike.) I think most of the computers we logged into were time-shared PDP-10's, IBM 360/70's and later PDP-11's and VAXs. If it weren't for Digital Equipment Corporation, virtually everything about computers and the internet would almost certainly be different today. Every major operating system today can trace its instruction set back to the PDP-11. These days saw the re-introduction of the humorous (in the US, anyway) banners left on computer terminals when one had to visit the facilities, or when one was demonstrating a program to a larger group: ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS! Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten. (That one's for you, Moni! ;-) --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-2: [meteorite-list] meteoriteblog.com anyone game?
Hi Bernd and the List, Blog is short for web log. Regards, Larry At 11:51 AM 2/21/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dirk, Michael, and List, Blogs are from annomyous sources and the person who is posting remains unknown. I found this in my Concise Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English edited by Paul Beale: blog (noun) A servant-boy in one of the houses: Rugby Schoolboys: from ca. 1860. A perversion of bloke. Hence a common boy of the town. No idea what they are talking about but that's what I find :-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Finally a field nickel test
I would like report a field nickel test that I'm using. I've been frustrated in the past trying to test 'suspect' irons in the field, and I suspect I'm not alone. I have seen in the met list archives discussion of field nickel tests. All tests reported were discouraging, and that the litmus style nickel tests were not useful. The test that works for me is actually designed for the jewelry industry to test jewelry for people who are nickel allergic. The product is made by Allerderm Labs in Phoenix, AZ http://www.allerderm.com/consumers/allertest.asp and it costs about $13 plus shipping. The perk is it comes in nice eyedrop bottles and is easily transportable. Its a dimethylglyoxime test using two reagents and a Q-tip. How I finally used it in the field is by grinding a small window on the iron or stone, then using several Q-tips and alcohol I throughly clean a spot on the window that I'll test. When the Q-tips no longer show any dirt on them and come away clean, I begin the test. On a clean Q-tip: 1 drop Solution A (1% dimethylglyoxime) and 1 drop Solution B (10% Ammonium hydroxide). Hold against the test area 30 sec. If there is no nickle present, its nice and clean with no discoloration. IF some nickle present (like stone), its muddy brown. For some irons it turns cherry red. I can not give any info on false positives. I hope this is useful for other hunters in the field. BTW - I got to use this test this weekend on a 61 pound iron recovered in the Texas Panhandle. -mt IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My latest thin section pic.
All, ANyone interested in thinsection images please take a loom at my latest image. Taken through my homemade cross polarizer with a canon SD300 digital camera. Camera attached to my scopes eyepiece and the scope was at 20 power. The image is from a thin section I amde from and unclassified NWA stone. Probably an LL3. No colour correction to the image. Just did a bit of image sharpening and file compression. Image at http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Tett1_b.jpg Cheers, tett Owen Sound, Ontario __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My new website has begun to take form!
Well folks, It has been months in the making, but I have uploaded the start of my completely new website! This is the start of my collection page, please take a look, and let us know what you think of these select pieces. Mike Farmer http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Solar Wind and Meteorites
Hello, I was just catching up on the February, 2005 issue of Sky and Telesope and in it, there is an interesting article on the Sloan Digital Sky Survey. On page 36, the article mentions solar-wind discoloration of asteroids. I have sometimes wondered whether the solar wind affects the color of asteroids to the degree that the surface colors might be affected and differ from the internal matrix of freshly fallen meteorites. To quote from the article: Collisions aren't the only processes that alter asteroids. Planetary scientists have predicted that asteroid colors should evolve as the rocky objects surfaces are altered by the solar wind and by the micrometeroid impacts. The Sloan asteroids' colors and orbital parameters support this space weathering hypothesis (ST: October, 2004, page 26). They also solve a long standing mystery: why the interiors of meteorites that have fallen to Earth have colors that differ from those of commonest asteroids. Follow-up questions would be: Is the degree of space weathering dependent upon the type of material (e.g., iron, common chondrite, carbonaceous, etc.)? How does that affect spectral reflectance studies? Can the effect be reproduced under laboratory conditons (greatlly speeded up, of course). How deep does the discoloration go. I would think only a few mm below the surface yet I know there are meteorites that have solar wind discoloration (I had a list somewhere, but now I can't find it). How does this survive the ablation process? Perhaps these are brecciated chondrites that were solar wind exposed then subsequently experienced impacts, then re-accreated. For example, would we be more likely to find solar wind discoloration in Howardites? Any know? -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Attention California collectors
Dear Californian's with meteorites; Due to recent floods and rains, you may need to mail me your meteorites for safe keeping. I live in the high desert as you know, and it is pretty dry up here. Good luck keeping your babies dry! It was 44 degrees, sunny all day and no wind. tropical~rocky mountain, Dave F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My new website has begun to take form!
Very impressing Mike...very impressive. John Gwilliam At 09:21 PM 2/21/2005, Michael Farmer wrote: Well folks, It has been months in the making, but I have uploaded the start of my completely new website! This is the start of my collection page, please take a look, and let us know what you think of these select pieces. Mike Farmer http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My new website has begun to take form!
Dear Mike; What struck me most was the premium crust condition on a clear majority of the specimens. WOW! Very nice job. Dave F. JKGwilliam wrote: Very impressing Mike...very impressive. John Gwilliam At 09:21 PM 2/21/2005, Michael Farmer wrote: Well folks, It has been months in the making, but I have uploaded the start of my completely new website! This is the start of my collection page, please take a look, and let us know what you think of these select pieces. Mike Farmer http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Finally a field nickel test
I would like report a field nickel test that I'm using. I've been frustrated in the past trying to test 'suspect' irons in the field, and I suspect I'm not alone. I have seen in the met list archives discussion of field nickel tests. All tests reported were discouraging, and that the litmus style nickel tests were not useful. The test that works for me is actually designed for the jewelry industry to test jewelry for people who are nickel allergic. The product is made by Allerderm Labs in Phoenix, AZ http://www.allerderm.com/consumers/allertest.asp and it costs about $13 plus shipping. The perk is it comes in nice eyedrop bottles and is easily transportable. Its a dimethylglyoxime test using two reagents and a Q-tip. How I finally used it in the field is by grinding a small window on the iron or stone, then using several Q-tips and alcohol I throughly clean a spot on the window that I'll test. When the Q-tips no longer show any dirt on them and come away clean, I begin the test. On a clean Q-tip: 1 drop Solution A (1% dimethylglyoxime) and 1 drop Solution B (10% Ammonium hydroxide). Hold against the test area 30 sec. If there is no nickle present, its nice and clean with no discoloration. IF some nickle present (like stone), its muddy brown. For some irons it turns cherry red. I can not give any info on false positives. I hope this is useful for other hunters in the field. BTW - I got to use this test this weekend on a 61 pound iron recovered in the Texas Panhandle. -mt IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite hunting in Spain (was First meteorites)
Martin Wrote: Due to the climate here in Central Europe meteorites decay rapidely, we have no suitable or arid hunting grounds and the only place with good chances to find one is the Morasko strewnfield in Poland. Hi List, I know Martin, was referring to central Europe, but how about Spain - are there some great places to hunt there? I had the impression that there is some nice dry areas in some areas, or is the terrain in those areas not suitable to meteorite hunting? Considering the ratio of falls and finds in a region and also factoring in the population density, could there be a way to measure how good a region will be for meteorite recovery? What other factors should be included, and has any work been done on this subject? Clear skies, Mark Vail, AZ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Blood Auction Results
Eric Olson wrote: but NWA meteorites were a completely different story with maybe 10% of what was here last year. The price I had to pay (on 40+Kg) after a lot of negotiating was up 50% over last year. I noticed a lack of nice large unclassified NWA at similar prices to last year. Similar large stones I paid 15¢/g for in the past was selling for 35¢ or more. And it wasn't because it was better material - far from it. Luckily I found what I needed from Comet Shop - thanks guys. I was getting worried as I needed it for a special project for a friend. Sure the prices are mostly low end, but dealers are under no obligation to match them. If nothing else the prices should encourage more people to attend the auction next year. I agree, it seems like the perfect way to promote the auction. http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=katy2kary Great! Now I know what ELKK and katy2kary come from. ;-) Cool photo - Go Cats!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
