Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
Hi Christian & List, Ahh yes! NWA 2288 is another one of Stefan's treasures! Great meteorite! A 9.41g Slice: http://www.meteorites.com.au/collection/NWA%202288%20L3%209.41g%20(2%20of%20 2).jpg Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Christian Anger To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Bernhard Rems' Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:44 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite Hi Bernhard, I have a similar feature in an unequilibrated chondrite. Have a look at my slice of NWA 2288 L3 11.7g http://austromet.com/collection/NWA_2288_11.7g.jpg dimensions of the slice are 40x35mm cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rems Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A meteorite within a meteorite Hi, just wanted to point you to a picture of one of my latest aquisitions: http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/sau068?full=1 This is SaU 068, a H5 with a TKW 0f 1.165g in one mass. I recently purchased a full slice of 61g from Sergej from ebay, and I thought it was astonishing that noone else seemed interested in this particular slice. If you look at the picture, you see a pretty obvious inclusion of a second meteorite in SaU 068, which has a different appearance that the rather blackish main part. What isn't visibile in the picture is the difference in visible metal: the larger, blacker exterior has little to no visible metal, while the brownish "inclusion" has more than a lot. The slice is polished on both sides, but by touching the piece with your fingers you can feel the difference in structure and much more so the border between the two kinds of meteoritic material. The "inclusion" is much smaller on the other side of the the slice. I know, it's still an H5, but I think it's an interesting piece - thus I wanted to share it with you. Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 'Deep Impact' on Hawaii and the Universe
http://www.mauinews.com/story.aspx?id=6394 'Deep Impact' on Hawaii and the universe By CLAUDINE SAN NICOLAS The Maui News (Hawaii) February 27, 2005 KAHULUI - Sometime on the Fourth of July, people in Hawaii will be observing a celestial event as anticipated and spectacular as any burst of fireworks that will mark America's Independence Day. But it won't be apparent to the average viewer on Earth since the event will be occurring 80 million miles away when an 820-pound spacecraft runs into the Comet Tempel I. Both professional astronomers and amateur space enthusiasts, including students on Maui, will be focused on the NASA Deep Impact project that will study the effects of what is expected to be an explosive encounter in distant space. The opportunity to be an observer in the study was one of the reasons for a workshop Saturday at Maui Community College, at which teachers were given information on the Deep Impact flight and on the possibilities for using the Faulkes Telescope on Haleakala. "I think this is big stuff for Hawaii," said John Pye, who teaches astronomy and ocean science at MCC. The new educational observatory on Maui will be one of the best locations for tracking the comet's progress as its orbit pulls it close to the Earth on its regular route that brings it into the solar system every 5.5 years. The tracking of Comet Tempel 1 and the ability for students to log on to the Faulkes Telescope is what Kamehameha Schools Maui Campus teachers Jean Hamai and Len Bloch hope to use when they initiate an astronomy club on their campus. Hamai and Bloch were among a handful of educators who attended the workshop Saturday sponsored by the University of Hawaii at Manoa Astrobiology Institute at MCC. The workshop was held in conjunction with an astrobiology exhibit that has been on display at the MCC Library since Feb. 16. The display, which will be dismantled Monday, introduces the science of astrobiology (the combined studies of astronomy and biology) and was made available on loan from the Carnegie Institution of Washington. The exhibit featured an interactive display on deep sea vents and their ecosystems, with graphic panels of scientific illustrations of one such vent ecosystem, individual organisms and informative text. Certain elements of the graphic materials, when touched, activated the monitor to display relevant, engaging and informative video. Active points include the submersible Alvin, several individual species of the vent community and a scientist and scientific illustrator who work together to explore these environments. Study of the deep sea environment is related to astronomy because theories on the possibility of life on planets such as Mars involve examination of how life can occur in hostile environments such as the acidic, superheated waters around a deep-sea volcanic vent. But participants in the workshop were more interested in knowing how to see the stars through the Faulkes Telescope, the 2-meter telescope installed as a joint venture between the University of Hawaii and the Dill Faulkes Educational Trust. The Faulkes Telescope Project, which includes a second sister telescope to be set up in Siding Spring, Australia, will allow students in Hawaii and the United Kingdom to conduct research in astronomy, setting up projects with requests for observation time at specific areas in distant space. Observations on the telescopes will all be conducted remotely, over the Internet, both in real-time - as the observations are being made - and off-line, when the student in a classroom during the day can call up the observations made during the night. While the Faulkes program is still being set up, the telescope is already making observations and qualified teachers and students can file requests for observation time on Faulkes. The problem for Hamai is that she initially couldn't get through the sign-on system. She said she had a frustrating time attempting to log on in November. She would reserve time but then the telescope would be inoperable. At one point when the telescope was operating, Hamai was able to see images in space from her computer at home. "I thought to myself, 'Wow I'm driving the telescope but nobody's here to see me do it,'" Hamai recalled. With more instructions on accessing the system, Hamai is aiming to get her students involved. She said she planned to take what she learned in the workshop to initiate an astronomy club at Kamehameha Schools. "At this point it's just about exposure and giving the kids content knowledge," she said about her purpose in forming an astronomy club and taking on the Deep Impact event as a project. When she was able to log on, Hamai said she wasn't able to produce any of the images she saw on her computer. But after listening Saturday to tips from the Faulkes telescope systems engineer Bill Giebink, and from Jim Bedient, an amateur user of the Faulkes telescope, she said she was more confident of success in the future
[meteorite-list] Any clues as to this feature?
Just won an auction that I've been watching (and probably paid more per gram than I should have, but I really wanted this one) and I'm wondering if anyone has any insights into this feature. Look at the dark area surrounding a "sliver" of material that matches the rest of the matrix. Could this be a shock-melt pocket that didn't quite melt all the way to the center? http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/what.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: BTK Captured...Wichita breathes relief
Hello list, This is off subject, but I can bring meteorite up . You might remember from my article on the Wichita meteorite in Meteorite Times that a local serial killer returned last year. It happened to be the same time that me and Jerry Calvert put on a local display so he brought us extra press. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/wichitaexperience.html Since that time the BTK (Bind them, Torture them, Kill them) has been haunting the city and the local police. Doing so, the city has gained international attention. Yesterday the Wichita Police announced the arrest of the BTK. Our local serial killer has been caught! He left lots of DNA samples everywhere and therefore a conviction is most likely. He has been credited with 10 murders right now with a few more possible victims. Thankfully he hadnt murdered in 15 years., that we know of at least. The police pretty much DNA tested the entire town that fit the age and profile. Thousands of DNAs were submitted. I had a few interesting ties to the BTK, although the first murder was two months before I was born, so I can rule me out pretty easily. The police tested my fathers DNA .and tried to take a second test. One of my uncles were tested. Another one of my uncles had his business phone number put on a communication from BTK. If you placed a circle around the crime zones ..I am in the middle. The BTK went to my college. The BTK is an amateur writer and poet. I know one of the victims family. It is hard to imagine that someone that hadnt killed in 15 years could spawn so much fear. The survivors of his killings have had their lives ruined. It is quite sad. You can go down the list of the then children and pretty much all have been in and out of jail and have had drug problems, plus. It was quite reflective watching the families gather in the city hall yesterday. The father of one victim was bubbling with joy. It made me shed a tear. As the chief of police said, "We got him." Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Latest Meteorite recovery field trip
When I posted my endorsement of a field nickel test that works, I mentioned brielfly the iron that I tested it on during my trip last weekend. Immediately I received some wonderful emails of congrats and some asking for a slice. Also, those I met in Tucson heard me grumbling about a 19 lb stone a farmer wanted to sell me, but I couldn't see him before Tucson. Now you will know the rest of the story... I have the pictures ready to post about the entire trip, which brought in a generous bounty of material. The final tally is 2 new stone meteorites and an iron. Not to mention some amusing meteor-wrongs... First lets begin by telling that I have to drive 7 hours to get to west Texas. Its a great drive through sheep country, and I keep wanting to stop at Richland Springs to hunt for more of that fall. But I'm on a short timeframe. My first stop for a farmers 'odd' rock yielded up treasure. I call it the Lamesa Bookend. A 1.4kg probable H class black shockened chondrite that was found near Lamesa, Texas in a cotton furrow 20 years ago after a hard rain. Because of its weight and a broken corner that let it stand on its end; it has been used as a bookend on the farmers mantle for 20 years. His wife finally told him it had to go, so I got a call. I own a bookstore, so I'm a little attached to it and may not let this one go. (Edwardo of Meteorites.com - I know your addiction to 'utilized' meteorites, don't worry, I'll offer you a piece) Picture is below. http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/lamesa.jpg After a few stops in cotton gins to meet with farmers, identify meteor-wrongs and post lots of wanted posters, I stopped for the night and called it a good day. Saturday morning, I went off to the next meteorite near Tohoka, Texas. But I didn't make it. Because of recent rain and slippery mud roads, I put my car in a ditch on the way to the farmers house. The farmer was 88 (and still farming!) and sent his craziest daughter (about 65) to help 'muddy' my car out. I have to admit, I had a blast with her getting the car out. Check out my poor car and landscape. http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/car1.jpg http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/car2.jpg In the end we made it to his house and had a delightful time talking about meteorites with him and his 3 daughters. His 7.6kg meteorite had been found while hoeing weeds in his field 10 years ago, then his wife wanted it for her rock garden. After she passed away, he had brought his meteorite to Texas Tech 4 years ago where they confirmed it was a meteorite then did nothing. So it became a doorstop, until last weekend. He and his 3 daughters decided to let me buy 1/2 of it and he wanted 1/2 of it to be cut into thirds for each of his daughters to become heirlooms. I thought it was a slendid idea and agreed. My final part of the bargain is to send him a copy of the Bullitin when it comes out. I forgot to take a picture of it before I cut it. But here is a picture of my half. http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/overall.jpg It has the looks of a weathered L chondrite. I've already got it cut, below are pictures of a slice with some strange inclusions. Anyone want to give me guestimates on classifications? http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/without-flash.jpg http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/without-flash2.jpg I drove on up through the panhandle looking at bomb fragments and basalt until I reached the top of the panhandle Here, I was in for a shock. A big chunk of iron was found several years ago by a rancher who kept at his house. He was curious enough to send a piece of iron shale off to U. of Az. to get it identified. U of A said it was meteoritic, then did nothing - didn't ask for a real piece of offer to buy it. So I got a call. Once I arrived, I could see it was badly weathered. Didn't look like a Campo or an Odessa. I think I could see some regmaglyphs, can anyone else see them? I whipped out my grinder and ground down to clean metal then did the Nickel test on it - Bright Cherry Red. Oh yea, baby, 27kg of a new iron. We negotiated a little bit, and finally he decided to sell me 1/2 in a few months after he shows it to some friends. It was found about 16 miles from the Elton Iron, so I won't know for a while if its paired and there's a new strewnfield to work. I give pairing only 5- 10% chance. http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/iron1.jpg http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/iron2.jpg Then I kill about an hour in Amarillo and see a few other cars that got stuck in the mud worse than I did. They call it Cadalac ranch. Pic below http://westernwelltool.com/trip-18FEB05/caddy-ranch.jpg Thatnight I took and offer to stay with a family that had a meteor-wrong, nice family but the dad was a little off. I mean his elevator didn't go all the way to the top. His wife assured me it was ok, he simply spent too many
Re: [meteorite-list] Mundrabilla slice in NHM London
The slice in London has a weight of 275kg, says Buehler. Buckleboo! Martin (Still some great Moons available, ending now!) - Original Message - From: "jim brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mundrabilla slice in NHM London > Good evening listees > On the subject of the recently discussed large slices of > Mundrabilla,I thought I'd chime in with a pic I took of NHM Londons' slice > which stands at one of the entrances to the museum.Probably not as big as the > Smithsonian specimen judging from Anne Blacks pic and description but still > very impressive.Not the best pic for judging scale but I'd estimate it was 4 > or 5 feet long. > > ftp://jim.brady2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mundrabilla.JPG > > also for your enjoyment(bar my big ugly mug in the shot) here's a pic of the > 1100+ kilo Campo at the entrance to the meteorite gallery > > > ftp://jim.brady2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/campo%201100+%20kilo.JPG > > > > Jim Brady > Ireland > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NPA 02-14-1999 Meteorites for Valetine's Day, Darryl Pitt
Hello Everyone, Could someone refresh my memory, what was: "The "crown jewel of meteorites," a 31-pound chunk, is estimated to go for around $230,000." Thanks, Martin H - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:12 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] NPA 02-14-1999 Meteorites for Valetine's Day, Darryl Pitt > Paper: Syracuse Herald Journal > City: Syracuse, New York > Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 > Page: A-12 > > This Valentine's Day gift is out of this world > > Looking for an unusual gift this Valentine's Day? Try bidding > on one > of more than 50 meteorites - including slivers from Mars and the > moon - > being auctioned in San Francisco and Los Angeles today by > Butterfield and > Butterfield, an auction house that specialized in natural history > material. > The "crown jewel of meteorites," a 31-pound chunk, is estimated to > go for > around $230,000. > Many of those meteorites co me from the collection of Darryl > Pitt, a New > York music executive who has tried to turn the more common iron > meteorites > into objects of art. > For Pitt, meteorites, are a passion he wants to spread to art > collectors who have no interest in science and science-oriented > children who > have no interest in art. > > (end) > > Clear Skies, > Mark Bostick > Wichita, Kansas > http://www.meteoritearticles.com > http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com > http://www.imca.cc > > http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles > > PDF copy of this article, and most I post (and about 1/2 of those > on my > website), is available upon e-mail request. > > The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. The old > list > server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess > this is > more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now. > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-lis [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mundrabilla slice in NHM London
Good evening listees On the subject of the recently discussed large slices of Mundrabilla,I thought I'd chime in with a pic I took of NHM Londons' slice which stands at one of the entrances to the museum.Probably not as big as the Smithsonian specimen judging from Anne Blacks pic and description but still very impressive.Not the best pic for judging scale but I'd estimate it was 4 or 5 feet long. ftp://jim.brady2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mundrabilla.JPG also for your enjoyment(bar my big ugly mug in the shot) here's a pic of the 1100+ kilo Campo at the entrance to the meteorite gallery ftp://jim.brady2:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/campo%201100+%20kilo.JPG Jim Brady Ireland __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 02-14-1999 Meteorites for Valetine's Day, Darryl Pitt
Paper: Syracuse Herald Journal City: Syracuse, New York Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 Page: A-12 This Valentine's Day gift is out of this world Looking for an unusual gift this Valentine's Day? Try bidding on one of more than 50 meteorites - including slivers from Mars and the moon - being auctioned in San Francisco and Los Angeles today by Butterfield and Butterfield, an auction house that specialized in natural history material. The "crown jewel of meteorites," a 31-pound chunk, is estimated to go for around $230,000. Many of those meteorites come from the collection of Darryl Pitt, a New York music executive who has tried to turn the more common iron meteorites into objects of art. For Pitt, meteorites, are a passion he wants to spread to art collectors who have no interest in science and science-oriented children who have no interest in art. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles PDF copy of this article, and most I post (and about 1/2 of those on my website), is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. The old list server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess this is more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 10-10-1992 Peekskill Meteor Seen from Albany, NY
Paper: Syracuse Herald-Journal City: Syracuse, New York Date: Saturday, October 10, 1992 Page: A1 Meteor shower brightens sky ALBANY - Hundred of meteors danced through the skies in the Western Hemisphere overnight, exciting star gazers and grabbing the attention of UFO watchers up and down the East Coast. "I've never seen anything like it in my life," said Phillip Hillen of Penfield. "This thing, whatever it was, I'd say it was a thousand feet high. As it went over our tree in back...it had a color I'd never seen before. It dropped out of sight and I expected an explosion." What Hillen saw was one of Friday night's display of blue, green and red shooting stars, known as Draconids. The shower may still be around today, though with less intensity, said Rich Mamrosh, meteorologist at National Weather Service in Buffalo. A meteor, or shooting star, is a piece of rock that begins to burn and glow because of intense heat caused by the friction of hitting the earth's atmosphere, Mamrosh said. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles PDF copy of this article, and most I post (and about 1/2 of those on my website), is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. The old list server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess this is more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
FW: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
> But then again, how does a non-physical optical flash transform into a > meteorite? Is the progression, meteoroid to meteor and meteoriod to meteorite > and never meteoroid to meteor to meteorite? > > Bill > > > -- Original message -- > From: "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > A meteoroid, maybe. A meteor is just the optical manifestation of a natural > > object burning as it passes through the atmosphere, not a physical object > > at > > all. > > > > Chris > > > > * > > Chris L Peterson > > Cloudbait Observatory > > http://www.cloudbait.com > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Christian Anger'" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; "'Bernhard > > Rems'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:47 AM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite > > > > > > > "Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would not "meteor within a > > > meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement here? OR, just the > > > fact > > > that it was encapsulated still makes it a meteorite, since it made it to > > > the > > > ground." > > > > > > Good in theory, but wouldn't that same principle make the center of any > > > meteorite a meteor? All of the regroths and breccias, and even graphite > > > nodules would fit into that category, would they not? > > > > > > Thanks, Tom > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 10-10-1992 Sixth Graders Give Up on Willamette Meteorite
Paper: Daily Herald City: Chicago, Illinois Date: Saturday, October 10, 1992 Page: 2 People / Section 1 Young meteorite fans learn that money talks Two-sixth-graders who tried for three years to bring the nation's largest meteorite back to Oregon are giving up. Annie Campbell and Stephanie Corey say they don't want to be held responsible for denying any federal money to the American Museum of Natural History in New York. The Forest Hills Elementary School pupils said the decided to quit after they heard that Rep. Les AuCoin, D-Ore., was considering legislation to withhold money from the museum if it didn't hand over the Willamette Meteorite. The 16-ton chunk of iron was discovered 90 years ago near Lake Oswego. It has been on display at the museum's Hayden Planetarium since 1906. The girls gained national attention for their effort. The project began when the girls' third grade teacher told the glass that the largest meteorite ever found in the United States was discovered nearby in 1902. But it was sold to a New York woman who donated it to the museum. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com http://www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles PDF copy of this article, and most I post (and about 1/2 of those on my website), is available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. The old list server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess this is more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
> A meteoroid, maybe. A meteor is just the optical manifestation of a natural > object burning as it passes through the atmosphere, not a physical object at > all. If a meteor is only the optical manifestation, as fire from wood is not a log, any bit of incoming debris is a meteoroid? I thought I already understood that sequence. Lol, I never thought about it that way before. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad new LL3 and R3.8
Hello Meteoritefriens, I made an AD some hours ago, and there was a mistake in it : The NWA Numbers are 2821 for the R3.8 not 2881 And for the LL3 its 2820 not 2880 . The Numbers in the pictures are the right ones. Thanks to Don Adwards and Pierre-Marie Pelé for drawing my attention to this. So there are left: NWA 2821 R3.8 #2 194$: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202821%202.jpg http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202821%202back.jpg NWA 2820 LL3 #1 79$: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%201.jpg http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%201back.jpg NWA 2820 LL3 #2 67$: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%202.jpg http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%202back.jpg Sorry for the mistake, but now the numbers are right ! Andreas Gren IMCA#3503 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
A meteoroid, maybe. A meteor is just the optical manifestation of a natural object burning as it passes through the atmosphere, not a physical object at all. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Christian Anger'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; "'Bernhard Rems'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite "Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would not "meteor within a meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement here? OR, just the fact that it was encapsulated still makes it a meteorite, since it made it to the ground." Good in theory, but wouldn't that same principle make the center of any meteorite a meteor? All of the regroths and breccias, and even graphite nodules would fit into that category, would they not? Thanks, Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
An aubrite or eucrite embedded in a chondrite? CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:05 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite and this what is it? http://it.geocities.com/meteoriti20002/NWA1259gr.8.6.JPG Matteo --- Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:40:25 -0500, "Charles Viau" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hi List, > > > >Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would > not "meteor within a > >meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement > here? OR, just the fact > >that it was encapsulated still makes it a > meteorite, since it made it to the > >ground. > > That's even a scarier thought than the recent debate > about not calling Heat Sheild Rock a meteorite > because it didn't hit Earth. Do we REALLY need a > different name for each and every body that a > meteroid hits? (If so, I look forward to the names > for meteorids that hit the asteroid recently > named DouglasAdams. I propose > "pangalacticgargleblasterites" or > "theravenousbugblatterbeastoftraalites".) > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto più divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
Well, perhaps no because the encapsulated meteorite is a different classification, meaning that it (perhaps) had a different origin or came from another main body. The Regoliths and Breccia's are certainly compacted broken materials but if a 20 gram chondrite was found embedded inside one, that would be the same thing we are talking about here, would it not? And how many Graphite nodules make it to earth as meteorites? I do not know that answer to that. Thanks, CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Knudson Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:47 AM To: Charles Viau; 'Christian Anger'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Bernhard Rems' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite "Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would not "meteor within a meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement here? OR, just the fact that it was encapsulated still makes it a meteorite, since it made it to the ground." Good in theory, but wouldn't that same principle make the center of any meteorite a meteor? All of the regroths and breccias, and even graphite nodules would fit into that category, would they not? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm http://fstop.proboards24.com/ - Original Message - From: "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Christian Anger'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; "'Bernhard Rems'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite > Hi List, > > Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would not "meteor within a > meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement here? OR, just the fact > that it was encapsulated still makes it a meteorite, since it made it to the > ground. > > Also, the border material of the encapsulated meteor should be of great > scientific value, since there is no other way for an intact meteor to make > it on the ground without burnishing it's surface. > > Just a thought, and looking for comment > > Regards > CharlyV > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian > Anger > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:45 AM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Bernhard Rems' > Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite > > Hi Bernhard, > > I have a similar feature in an unequilibrated chondrite. > > Have a look at my slice of NWA 2288 L3 11.7g > > http://austromet.com/collection/NWA_2288_11.7g.jpg > > dimensions of the slice are 40x35mm > > > cheers, > > Christian > > IMCA #2673 > www.austromet.com > > Christian Anger > Korngasse 6 > 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg > AUSTRIA > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard > Rems > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:26 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] A meteorite within a meteorite > > Hi, > > just wanted to point you to a picture of one of my latest aquisitions: > > http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/sau068?full=1 > > This is SaU 068, a H5 with a TKW 0f 1.165g in one mass. I recently purchased > a full slice of 61g from Sergej from ebay, and I thought it was astonishing > that noone else seemed interested in this particular slice. > > If you look at the picture, you see a pretty obvious inclusion of a second > meteorite in SaU 068, which has a different appearance that the rather > blackish main part. What isn't visibile in the picture is the difference in > visible metal: the larger, blacker exterior has little to no visible metal, > while the brownish "inclusion" has more than a lot. > > The slice is polished on both sides, but by touching the piece with your > fingers you can feel the difference in structure and much more so the border > between the two kinds of meteoritic material. The "inclusion" is much > smaller on the other side of the the slice. > > I know, it's still an H5, but I think it's an interesting piece - thus I > wanted to share it with you. > > Bernhard > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
and this what is it? http://it.geocities.com/meteoriti20002/NWA1259gr.8.6.JPG Matteo --- Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:40:25 -0500, "Charles Viau" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hi List, > > > >Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would > not "meteor within a > >meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement > here? OR, just the fact > >that it was encapsulated still makes it a > meteorite, since it made it to the > >ground. > > That's even a scarier thought than the recent debate > about not calling Heat Sheild Rock a meteorite > because it didn't hit Earth. Do we REALLY need a > different name for each and every body that a > meteroid hits? (If so, I look forward to the names > for meteorids that hit the asteroid recently > named DouglasAdams. I propose > "pangalacticgargleblasterites" or > "theravenousbugblatterbeastoftraalites".) > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto più divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:40:25 -0500, "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi List, > >Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would not "meteor within a >meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement here? OR, just the fact >that it was encapsulated still makes it a meteorite, since it made it to the >ground. That's even a scarier thought than the recent debate about not calling Heat Sheild Rock a meteorite because it didn't hit Earth. Do we REALLY need a different name for each and every body that a meteroid hits? (If so, I look forward to the names for meteorids that hit the asteroid recently named DouglasAdams. I propose "pangalacticgargleblasterites" or "theravenousbugblatterbeastoftraalites".) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mezo-Madaras Image
> http://www.mhmeteorites.com/collection/images/mezo-madaras.jpg > The slice weighs 19.8g. It is not for sale. But enjoy it like a fine > wine. It is exceedingly difficult to obtain even the smallest piece. Matt, No Chicago wind blowing over there ?! ;-) Extremely beautiful and we can clearly see its xenolithic and polymict structure. Sincere congrats! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mezo-Madaras Image
For those of you that wanted to see my Mezo-Madaras, I finally have a pic available... http://www.mhmeteorites.com/collection/images/mezo-madaras.jpg The slice weighs 19.8g. It is not for sale. But enjoy it like a fine wine. It is exceedingly difficult to obtain even the smallest piece. Best wishes, <><><><><> Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
"Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would not "meteor within a meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement here? OR, just the fact that it was encapsulated still makes it a meteorite, since it made it to the ground." Good in theory, but wouldn't that same principle make the center of any meteorite a meteor? All of the regroths and breccias, and even graphite nodules would fit into that category, would they not? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm http://fstop.proboards24.com/ - Original Message - From: "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Christian Anger'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; "'Bernhard Rems'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite > Hi List, > > Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would not "meteor within a > meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement here? OR, just the fact > that it was encapsulated still makes it a meteorite, since it made it to the > ground. > > Also, the border material of the encapsulated meteor should be of great > scientific value, since there is no other way for an intact meteor to make > it on the ground without burnishing it's surface. > > Just a thought, and looking for comment > > Regards > CharlyV > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian > Anger > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:45 AM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Bernhard Rems' > Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite > > Hi Bernhard, > > I have a similar feature in an unequilibrated chondrite. > > Have a look at my slice of NWA 2288 L3 11.7g > > http://austromet.com/collection/NWA_2288_11.7g.jpg > > dimensions of the slice are 40x35mm > > > cheers, > > Christian > > IMCA #2673 > www.austromet.com > > Christian Anger > Korngasse 6 > 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg > AUSTRIA > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard > Rems > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:26 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] A meteorite within a meteorite > > Hi, > > just wanted to point you to a picture of one of my latest aquisitions: > > http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/sau068?full=1 > > This is SaU 068, a H5 with a TKW 0f 1.165g in one mass. I recently purchased > a full slice of 61g from Sergej from ebay, and I thought it was astonishing > that noone else seemed interested in this particular slice. > > If you look at the picture, you see a pretty obvious inclusion of a second > meteorite in SaU 068, which has a different appearance that the rather > blackish main part. What isn't visibile in the picture is the difference in > visible metal: the larger, blacker exterior has little to no visible metal, > while the brownish "inclusion" has more than a lot. > > The slice is polished on both sides, but by touching the piece with your > fingers you can feel the difference in structure and much more so the border > between the two kinds of meteoritic material. The "inclusion" is much > smaller on the other side of the the slice. > > I know, it's still an H5, but I think it's an interesting piece - thus I > wanted to share it with you. > > Bernhard > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
Hi List, Not trying to be picky about terminology, but would not "meteor within a meteorite" be the scientifically correct statement here? OR, just the fact that it was encapsulated still makes it a meteorite, since it made it to the ground. Also, the border material of the encapsulated meteor should be of great scientific value, since there is no other way for an intact meteor to make it on the ground without burnishing it's surface. Just a thought, and looking for comment Regards CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Anger Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:45 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 'Bernhard Rems' Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite Hi Bernhard, I have a similar feature in an unequilibrated chondrite. Have a look at my slice of NWA 2288 L3 11.7g http://austromet.com/collection/NWA_2288_11.7g.jpg dimensions of the slice are 40x35mm cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rems Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A meteorite within a meteorite Hi, just wanted to point you to a picture of one of my latest aquisitions: http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/sau068?full=1 This is SaU 068, a H5 with a TKW 0f 1.165g in one mass. I recently purchased a full slice of 61g from Sergej from ebay, and I thought it was astonishing that noone else seemed interested in this particular slice. If you look at the picture, you see a pretty obvious inclusion of a second meteorite in SaU 068, which has a different appearance that the rather blackish main part. What isn't visibile in the picture is the difference in visible metal: the larger, blacker exterior has little to no visible metal, while the brownish "inclusion" has more than a lot. The slice is polished on both sides, but by touching the piece with your fingers you can feel the difference in structure and much more so the border between the two kinds of meteoritic material. The "inclusion" is much smaller on the other side of the the slice. I know, it's still an H5, but I think it's an interesting piece - thus I wanted to share it with you. Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Zhovtnevyi label
Thanks for the help with the translation of this label. It does come from the Russian Academy of Sciences. I purchased the piece from Haag at the last Tucson Show. You can see the piece and the label by going here... http://www.mhmeteorites.com/collection/meteorite_collection.htm And scrolling down to the Zhovtnevyi link. Once again, thanks for the assistance! <><><><><> Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte
If you are lucky enough to go to Jim Schwades house and see his world class meteorite collection, thats where you will see the actual photot of the Pasamonte fireball. The lucky guy owns it !! Bob Evans - Original Message - From: "Matt Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'DNAndrews'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte Once again, from D Weir's awesome website... http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9278/protected_PASAMONT.HTM Scroll to bottom. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DNAndrews Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:35 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte Good morning to all. A few years ago I was reading Nininger's "Find a Falling Star", and he mentioned that Charlie Brown took a snapshot of the Pasamonte fireball with his Kodak camera in 1933. In the book, there was a picture of Charlie standing in front of his house/cabin, but no picture of the fireball. Now that I've read Kevin's book (which is very interesting reading, Kevin. Thanks for #100 too!), it reminded me of the story. But, still no picture of the fireball. Is there somewhere on the internet where this picture can be found or if any of the listees have an image of it? Just curious as it's something I'd like to view for some reason. Thanks in advance if there is such a thing available. Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte Fireball
And in Nininger's "Published Papers" book and in "Out of the Sky"? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:03 AM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte Fireball Hello List, Those who are lucky enough to own a copy of the now out-of-print book by R.W. Bühler "Meteorite, Urmaterie aus dem interplanetaren Raum" written in German, will find that b&w photo on p. 39. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pasamonte Fireball
Hello List, Those who are lucky enough to own a copy of the now out-of-print book by R.W. Bühler "Meteorite, Urmaterie aus dem interplanetaren Raum" written in German, will find that b&w photo on p. 39. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad new LL3 and R3.8
Hello Meteoritefriends , I just got NWA numbers for some of my meteorites .There are for example NWA 2880 LL3 TKW 199,9g and NWA2881 R3.8 TKW 276,7g. >From this Meteorites I have some slices for sale: NWA 2881 R3.8 #2 194$: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202821%202.jpg http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202821%202back.jpg NWA 2881 R3.8 #1 155$: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202821%201.jpg http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202821%201back.jpg NWA 2880 LL3 #1 79$: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%201.jpg http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%201back.jpg NWA 2880 LL3 #2 67$: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%202.jpg http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%202back.jpg NWA 2880 LL3 #3 104$: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%203.jpg http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/NWA%202820%203back.jpg Not to forget to look in the German e bay there I have two moons and two Dhofar mainmasses under the name nord_stein Thanks for looking, Have a nice Sunday! Andreas Gren IMCA#3503 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] , AD-NWA 482
Hello All, My father has been trying to post this AD to the list for awhile now with no success, so he asked me to post it. Hope you are all enjoying your weekend. Devin Schrader From Jack Schrader: Dear list members, I have four partslices of NWA 482 (lunar) for sale. The slices were prepared professionally and perfectly in Germany and are 1mm in thickness. Each slice is approximately 60 x 70 mm for maximum surface area to minimum weight ratio and each slice also has at least 75% fusioncrust. The weights are 7.1, 7.3, 8.5 and 8.8 grams. Each one of these spectacularly beautiful museum quality specimens has varying large areas of black impact melt glass. And the best part is: I am asking ONLY $1500.00 a gram for these partslices. I have never seen this material offered anywhere for less than $2500 a gram before. I will gladly email photos to interested parties. Please contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Jack Schrader IMCA# 2329 - Original Message - From: "Devin Schrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] , test-DELETE test __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Dho 310 reminder and Martin's Moon Parade ending soon!
Hiho list, my ebay Moon parade turns into the lap of honour and will end in a view hours! Some still have no bits yet. It would be a special surprise for me, if of all pieces the Dho 310 would remain?! Norbert was so kind to post the new articles about Dho 310 with the new discoveries, that in Dho 310 were found high pressure minerals originating from deep lunar crust or even the uppermost mantle region. Here again the links: http://www.geokhi.ru/~meteorit/publication/demidova-ms2003-e.pdf http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1063.pdf And my specimen is most probably the last one of remarkable size (0.352grams) of this 10.8g stone. Ask Serge from cometshop, whether and what he has some left (and ask whether he's willing to give it away at this low price ;-). Stupid enough I priced it like the other specimens of that ebay day. A budget specimen of Dho 908 is still available too! Amazingly thin cut, so that you won't need a microscope to find out interesting details. Btw. This homepage is in my eyes the best comprehensive site about lunaites, suitable also for beginners: http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/moon_meteorites.html To keep track of all the new and old numbers, the pairings, there is no better place than loony lunatic Classen's collection site, where you'll additionally find to almost each available (and not available anymore) Moon number a picture of a specimen! Must be the most complete lunar collaction in existence, congrats! http://www.timewarp.de/lunar/lunar.htm (Same has to be said for his Mars meteorite page). Finally, it's never wasted time to visit David Weir's situs: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9278/ Now before I forget, my auctions (you can bid via US-ebay, as you are used to): http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsofindtypeZ15QQuseridZpardelmopsQQfclZ3QQampQ3BsspagenameZhQ3AhQ3AadvsearchQ3AUSQQsacatZ-1QQsofocusZbsQQcatrefZC5QQfromZR7QQpfidZ0QQsinceZ30QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQfrppZ50 Gosh, waht a link... If it's not working, just search in "advanced Search", "Items by Seller" for: Pardelmops Thanks and good luck! Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte
That was quick! Thanks Matt. Yes, it is an awesome website. Dave Matt Morgan wrote: Once again, from D Weir's awesome website... http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9278/protected_PASAMONT.HTM Scroll to bottom. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DNAndrews Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:35 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte Good morning to all. A few years ago I was reading Nininger's "Find a Falling Star", and he mentioned that Charlie Brown took a snapshot of the Pasamonte fireball with his Kodak camera in 1933. In the book, there was a picture of Charlie standing in front of his house/cabin, but no picture of the fireball. Now that I've read Kevin's book (which is very interesting reading, Kevin. Thanks for #100 too!), it reminded me of the story. But, still no picture of the fireball. Is there somewhere on the internet where this picture can be found or if any of the listees have an image of it? Just curious as it's something I'd like to view for some reason. Thanks in advance if there is such a thing available. Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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RE: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte
Once again, from D Weir's awesome website... http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9278/protected_PASAMONT.HTM Scroll to bottom. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DNAndrews Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:35 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte Good morning to all. A few years ago I was reading Nininger's "Find a Falling Star", and he mentioned that Charlie Brown took a snapshot of the Pasamonte fireball with his Kodak camera in 1933. In the book, there was a picture of Charlie standing in front of his house/cabin, but no picture of the fireball. Now that I've read Kevin's book (which is very interesting reading, Kevin. Thanks for #100 too!), it reminded me of the story. But, still no picture of the fireball. Is there somewhere on the internet where this picture can be found or if any of the listees have an image of it? Just curious as it's something I'd like to view for some reason. Thanks in advance if there is such a thing available. Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte
Once again, from D Weir's awesome website... http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9278/protected_PASAMONT.HTM Scroll to bottom. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DNAndrews Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 8:35 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte Good morning to all. A few years ago I was reading Nininger's "Find a Falling Star", and he mentioned that Charlie Brown took a snapshot of the Pasamonte fireball with his Kodak camera in 1933. In the book, there was a picture of Charlie standing in front of his house/cabin, but no picture of the fireball. Now that I've read Kevin's book (which is very interesting reading, Kevin. Thanks for #100 too!), it reminded me of the story. But, still no picture of the fireball. Is there somewhere on the internet where this picture can be found or if any of the listees have an image of it? Just curious as it's something I'd like to view for some reason. Thanks in advance if there is such a thing available. Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Charlie Brown and Pasamonte
Good morning to all. A few years ago I was reading Nininger's "Find a Falling Star", and he mentioned that Charlie Brown took a snapshot of the Pasamonte fireball with his Kodak camera in 1933. In the book, there was a picture of Charlie standing in front of his house/cabin, but no picture of the fireball. Now that I've read Kevin's book (which is very interesting reading, Kevin. Thanks for #100 too!), it reminded me of the story. But, still no picture of the fireball. Is there somewhere on the internet where this picture can be found or if any of the listees have an image of it? Just curious as it's something I'd like to view for some reason. Thanks in advance if there is such a thing available. Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: A meteorite within a meteorite
Hi Bernhard, I have a similar feature in an unequilibrated chondrite. Have a look at my slice of NWA 2288 L3 11.7g http://austromet.com/collection/NWA_2288_11.7g.jpg dimensions of the slice are 40x35mm cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rems Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A meteorite within a meteorite Hi, just wanted to point you to a picture of one of my latest aquisitions: http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/sau068?full=1 This is SaU 068, a H5 with a TKW 0f 1.165g in one mass. I recently purchased a full slice of 61g from Sergej from ebay, and I thought it was astonishing that noone else seemed interested in this particular slice. If you look at the picture, you see a pretty obvious inclusion of a second meteorite in SaU 068, which has a different appearance that the rather blackish main part. What isn't visibile in the picture is the difference in visible metal: the larger, blacker exterior has little to no visible metal, while the brownish "inclusion" has more than a lot. The slice is polished on both sides, but by touching the piece with your fingers you can feel the difference in structure and much more so the border between the two kinds of meteoritic material. The "inclusion" is much smaller on the other side of the the slice. I know, it's still an H5, but I think it's an interesting piece - thus I wanted to share it with you. Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A meteorite within a meteorite
Hi, just wanted to point you to a picture of one of my latest aquisitions: http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/sau068?full=1 This is SaU 068, a H5 with a TKW 0f 1.165g in one mass. I recently purchased a full slice of 61g from Sergej from ebay, and I thought it was astonishing that noone else seemed interested in this particular slice. If you look at the picture, you see a pretty obvious inclusion of a second meteorite in SaU 068, which has a different appearance that the rather blackish main part. What isn't visibile in the picture is the difference in visible metal: the larger, blacker exterior has little to no visible metal, while the brownish "inclusion" has more than a lot. The slice is polished on both sides, but by touching the piece with your fingers you can feel the difference in structure and much more so the border between the two kinds of meteoritic material. The "inclusion" is much smaller on the other side of the the slice. I know, it's still an H5, but I think it's an interesting piece - thus I wanted to share it with you. Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: [not so] OT: Hunting the Harper - Parts 1-4
Hello Rob and List, There are two aspects of aircraft crash debris on dry lakes that make this subject of more than passing interest to those of us searching for meteorites. Those of us who are proponents of theories that meteorites can move or migrate on dry lake beds have the possibility to use the debris at these crash sites as test case studies. For example the debris at the 40+ year old crash site on Red Lake playa in Arizona raises some questions. Although this well documented crash site was thoroughly cleaned up of debris, there are some rather massive aircraft parts that appear to have "come to the surface". Is this the result of deflation (the level of the lakebed eroding down) or is this an indication of of some poorly understood process, such as "frost-heaved" rocks in permafrost, that can migrate large rocks to the surface? In regards to the lateral movement of rocks across a lakebed, the tight halo of the debris around these crash sites offers negative evidence to this phenomenon. Much to my chagrin, I can see very little movement of this debris over the last 6 years at these crash sites. More observatios are needed. I've recently found what appears to be an "old" crash site on Willcox Playa, Arizona. I'm still researching this one in an effort to find out when this crash occured. I'm hoping that my aircraft debris-locating acquaintances can help me out with this information. Bob V. --- [meteorite-list] OT: Hunting the Harper - Parts 1-4 Matson, Robert ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com Sat Feb 26 23:03:30 EST 2005 Hi Bob and List, Haven't seen anyone else chime in yet, but I wanted to thank your forwarding this 4-part aircraft debris story to the list. Very enjoyable -- particularly since I've been to Harper Dry Lake a few times hunting for meteorites so it was easy for me to visualize the areas described in the story! As you say, too bad they weren't trained to look for meteorites as long as they were out there, since it's the same basic problem. On the flipside, I suppose I should keep a sharper eye out for old military debris while hunting for meteorites -- certainly seem to be plenty of aircraft wrecks in and around the Mojave. (Cuddeback Dry Lake was the site of a military crash also). --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Prints / Reprints on ebay
Hello list, I just added 7 prints/reprints on ebay: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQsassZpema9 Thanks! Peter Marmet __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The big red grinder and the meteorite pie ***apology (is accepted)
Hi J.D., As you probably all ready know, certain oils have chlorides in them and are not suitable for cutting meteorites unless you want to cause oxidation or remove the chlorides from the piece after cutting (a difficult process). They do sell oils without any chlorides in them and you have to get spec sheets to find out if the oil you are using has any in it. Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my experience you typically need an oil based cutting coolant to keep it from binding up. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting a large meteorite with ...
Hi Bernd and all, I have stood next to the slab of Mundrabilla at the Smithsonian (about a year ago) and it is an amazing piece. Not just the matrix which is very interesting but the fact it is stood length way on the floor and stands vertical to museum visitors. My friend who was width me is fairly tall and this stood taller than him!!! Nice to see such a hugh span of meteoritic material. --AL Mitterling (two campo's worth :-) ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another interesting aside: About 8 or 9 slabs were cut from this mass, four of which (about 250 kg each)were donated to the Smithsonian Institution, the Academy of Science in Moscow,the British Museum in London, and the Australian Museum in Adelaide. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Updated Website
Hello everybody, I just finished adding about 20 pieces to my website: a great slice with Albin, some Huckitta that does not look weathered, a bunch of Quijingue, some Estherville with crystals, a beautiful oriented Sikhote-Alin (of course), some classics you don't see very often, ... Go search, and enjoy: www.impactika.com I still have a lot more to add, but that will have to do for today. Of course, do let me know if you have any questions. Goodnight Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
