Re: [meteorite-list] Next vacation: Rajasthan.

[Darren Garrison]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:50:43 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>***
> says Dr Sisodia, who presented a paper on the subject at NASA.
>**
>
>
>Would someone find the paper that the esteemed Dr. Sisodia presented at NASA?  
>I would like to know what all it said.
>
>I would also like to know how much NASA grant money this researcher made on 
>this project?
>

I can't find a reference to a paper by MS Sisodia on amino acids in meteorites 
presented to NASA,
but there are hits on Google to geological work done by MS Sisodia and studies 
involving meteorites,
such as this one:

http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc061798.html

N. Bhandari*), S.V.S. Murty, K.M. Suthar, A.D. Shukla, G.M. Ballabh, 
M.S. Sisodia, V.K. Vaya: The orbit and exposure history of the Piplia 
Kalan eucrite. METEORITICS & PLANETARY SCIENCE, 1998, Vol.33, No.3, 
pp.455-461

*) PHYS RES LAB, AHMEDABAD 380009, GUJARAT, INDIA

Cosmogenic radionuclides, particle tracks and rare gases have been 
measured in two fragments of the Piplia Kalan eucrite that fell in 
Rajasthan, India on 1996 June 20. The cosmic-ray exposure age of the 
meteorite is calculated to be 23 Ma, which is similar to ages of some 
other eucrites. The track density in feldspars and pyroxenes varies 
between 0.2 x 10(6) to similar to 4.5 x 10(6) cm(-2) The mass ablation 
of the meteorite, based on the distribution of track density in 
near-surface samples of the two fragments, is calculated to be similar 
to 75%, which corresponds to an entry velocity of similar to 17 km/s. 
The orbital parameters of the eucrite have been computed from the 
radiant of the meteor trail and the geocentric velocity. The best 
estimates are a = 2.47 AU, e = 0.62 and i = 7.54 degrees, which is 
similar to the orbital elements of other meteorites, most of which have 
been inferred to originate within 2..6 AU of the Sun. The activity of 
the radionuclide Al-26 agrees with the expected production rate; 
whereas the shortlived radionuclides Na-22, Mn-54, Sc-46 etc. have 
levels that are consistent with the galactic cosmic-ray fluxes that are 
expected during the solar minimum period before the time of fall. All 
the cosmogenic effects (ie., radio-and stable-nuclides and particle 
tracks) are consistent with the meteoroid having had a simple, 
one-stage exposure history in interplanetary space. Lower radiogenic 
ages of U, Th-He (0.7 Ga) and K-Ar (3.6 Ga) indicate severe losses of 
He-4 and Ar-40, as observed in most eucrites. A Pu-Xe age, concordant 
with Angra dos Reis, shows that Piplia belongs to the ''old'' eucrite 
group. Copyright 1998, Institute for Scientific Information Inc.
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Rain in Rajastan

[Sterling K. Webb]

Hi,

The Indian state of Rajastan has an area of 342,000 km^2. The total
surface area of the Earth is 509,600,000 km^2, so Rajastan represents or
0.06711% of the Earth surface.
If the fall rate (oh, boy, have we talked about this!) is the old figure
of 25,000 meteorite per year, then Rajastan receives about 16 to 17 meteorites
PER YEAR.
If the fall rate is the current moderate estimate (50,000, Phil Bland,
etc.), then Rajastan receives about 33 meteorites PER YEAR.
If you use the more likely (at least, to me) figure I have tried to
determine (~100,000), then Rajastan receives about 66 meteorites PER YEAR.
The fall rate for Rajastan is certainly NOT one every 2000 years.
It's FINDING them before the climate destroys them that's hard,
particularly for chondrites.
There is no shortage of meteorites.
Perhaps the increase in the find rate in Rajastan is due to more eyes
(44,000,000 people, or 128 per km^2), better understanding and awareness
(better education), the clearing in development of more land area, and perhaps
just plain good luck!


Sterling K. Webb

Ron Baalke wrote:

> http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=74183
> Clue to life in Thar meteorite rain
> SANDIPAN SHARMA
> The Sunday Express (India)
> July 10, 2005
> Since 1995, at least 10 meteorites have fallen on various villages in
> western Rajasthan. The number could be more as many such incidents go
> unreported. "This is strange. Generally, chances of a meteorite falling in
> an area
> is once in 2000 years," says Prof B S Paliwal, head, Department of Geology,
> Jodhpur University...


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Re: [meteorite-list] Clue to Life in Thar Meteorite Rain

[MeteorHntr]

Ron,

Great post.  Thanks for sending that on to us.  Maybe you can answer my 
questions I posted to the list about this story:

> Would someone find the paper that the esteemed Dr.
> Sisodia presented at NASA?  I would like to know
> what all it said.
>
> I would also like to know how much NASA grant money
> this researcher made on this project?

Thanks,
Steve Arnold
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[meteorite-list] Clue to Life in Thar Meteorite Rain

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=74183

Clue to life in Thar meteorite rain
SANDIPAN SHARMA
The Sunday Express (India)
July 10, 2005
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JAIPUR, JULY 9: Geologists in Rajasthan are baffled by large meteorites
falling on western Rajasthan at regular intervals over the past few years.

Scientists struggling to identify the cause of this celestial shower,
have found the presence of amino acids and other life-supporting organic
compounds in the meteorites, which has led to an interesting hypothesis:
Life could have originated outside earth.

Since 1995, at least 10 meteorites have fallen on various villages in
western Rajasthan. The number could be more as many such incidents go
unreported.

"This is strange. Generally, chances of a meteorite falling in an area
is once in 2000 years," says Prof B S Paliwal, head, Department of
Geology, Jodhpur University. Also, the meteorites usually fall around
the equator. The regular fall in Thar is thus unexplained.

The first such fall was reported in 1994. The meteorites usually fall
between April-July. "Perhaps this is the time when these bodies come
into earth's sphere of attraction and fall on this region because of its
position at that time. This is a theory that needs to be analysed," says
Dr M S Sisodia, a geologist at Jodhpur University, who has been studying
the phenomenon.

"It may sound funny but there are possibilities that life may have
originated on some other planet like Mars," says Dr Sisodia, who
presented a paper on the subject at NASA.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Next vacation: Rajasthan.

[Norm Lehrman]

Steve #1,

Now that's  fine post.  Thoughtful.  Educational. 
Keep 'em coming.

Cheers,
Norm
(http://TektiteSource.com)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How many errors can we find in this story? 10? 15?
> 20?
> 
> Let's count them:
> 
> *
> Clue to life in Thar meteorite rain
> Sandipan Sharma
> 
> jaipur, july 9 Geologists in Rajasthan are baffled
> by large meteorites falling on western Rajasthan
> at regular intervals over the past few years.
> **
> 
> Error #1 "large meteorites" what is their definition
> of large?
> Error #2 "regular intervals"
> 
> **
> Scientists struggling to identify the cause of this
> celestial shower, 
> *
> 
> Error #3 not knowing the cause?
> Error #4 a 10 year long "shower"
> 
> 
> have found the presence of
> amino acids and other life-supporting organic
> compounds in the meteorites, which has led to an
> interesting hypothesis: Life could have originated
> outside earth.
> ***
> 
> Error #5 "lead to an interesting hypothesis" as if
> no one else thought of this before.
> 
> 
> Since 1995, at least 10 meteorites have fallen on
> various villages in western Rajasthan. The number
> could be more as many such incidents go unreported.
> “This is strange. Generally, chances of a meteorite
> falling in an area is once in 2000 years,” says
> Prof B S Paliwal, head, Department of Geology,
> Jodhpur University. 
> ***
> 
> Error #6 "once in 2000 years" how big is Rajasthan? 
> If it were only 3 miles by 3 miles, but isn't it
> about the size of Texas?
> 
> 
>   Also, the meteorites usually fall
> around the equator. 
> ***
> 
> Error#7 "usually fall around the equator" LOL, who
> is writing this stuff?
> 
> 
> The regular fall in Thar is thus unexplained.
> *
> 
> Error #8 "regular fall"
> Error #9 "Unexplained" OK, maybe no one the reporter
> talked with is smart enough to explain it to him.
> 
> *
> The first such fall was reported in 1994. 
> *
> 
> Error #10 The 1984 BMNH Catalogue shows 12 falls
> from Rajasthan.
> 
> *
> The meteorites usually fall between April-July.
> “Perhaps
> this is the time when these bodies come into earth’s
> sphere of attraction 
> 
> 
> Error #11 meteorites are not "attracted" they either
> run into Earth or Earth runs into them (or both)
> 
> *
> and fall on this region
> because of its position at that time. 
> *
> 
> Error #12  While maybe that is someone's "theory"
> but it is still in error.
> 
> **
> This is a theory that needs to be analysed,” 
> **
> 
> Error #13  Really, it does NOT need to be analyzed.
> 
> **
> says Dr M S
> Sisodia, a geologist at Jodhpur University, who has
> been studying the phenomenon.
> ***
> 
> Error #14 Trust me, he hasn't been "studying the
> phenomenon" all that much.
> 
> ***
> “It may sound funny 
> ***
> 
> TRUE FACT #1:  Yes, this article does sound funny!
> 
> ***
> but there are possibilities that life may have
> originated on some other planet
> like Mars,”
> ***
> 
> Error #15 The theory (as pointed out by MexicoDoug)
> points out that the theory is not all that funny.
> 
> ***
>  says Dr Sisodia, who presented a paper on the
> subject at NASA.
> **
> 
> 
> Would someone find the paper that the esteemed Dr.
> Sisodia presented at NASA?  I would like to know
> what all it said.
> 
> I would also like to know how much NASA grant money
> this researcher made on this project?
> 
> Steve Arnold
> #1
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Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?

[Walter Branch]

Hi Norm,

Right.  I thought polymict breccias conisted of
samples from different rocks cemented together
(i.e., external sources).

-Walter
-
- Original Message - 
From: "Norm Lehrman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "met list"

Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?


> All,
>
> Maybe someone can elucidate on the terms specifically
> as they are used in meteorites, but in geology
> "polymict" implies varied clast composition ("poly" =
> many), while "xenolith" (= foreign rock), implies
> clasts from an external source.
>
> Cheers,
> Norm
> (http://tektitesource.com)
>
> --- Walter Branch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What is the difference between a polymict breccia
> > and xenolithic breccia?
> >
> > -Walter Branch
> >
> >
> > -
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "met list" 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:28:34 -0700, "Tom Knudson"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Hello good people of the list!!!  Sure is slow
> > today!!!  So, what is a
> > >xenolithic breccia?  What meteorites are considered
> > a xenolithic breccia?
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenolith
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breccia
> >
> >
> > >On Google, I only find Ghubara, but that can't be
> > the only one.
> >
> > One of my favorites was just mentioned a few days
> > back-- NWA 3119
> >
> > http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa3119.html
> >
> > and my much more modest piece
> >
> >
> http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/nwa3119_both.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?

[Norm Lehrman]

All,

Maybe someone can elucidate on the terms specifically
as they are used in meteorites, but in geology
"polymict" implies varied clast composition ("poly" =
many), while "xenolith" (= foreign rock), implies
clasts from an external source.

Cheers,
Norm
(http://tektitesource.com) 

--- Walter Branch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What is the difference between a polymict breccia
> and xenolithic breccia?
> 
> -Walter Branch
> 
> 
> -
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "met list" 
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?
> 
> 
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:28:34 -0700, "Tom Knudson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Hello good people of the list!!!  Sure is slow
> today!!!  So, what is a
> >xenolithic breccia?  What meteorites are considered
> a xenolithic breccia?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenolith
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breccia
> 
> 
> >On Google, I only find Ghubara, but that can't be
> the only one.
> 
> One of my favorites was just mentioned a few days
> back-- NWA 3119
> 
> http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa3119.html
> 
> and my much more modest piece
> 
>
http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/nwa3119_both.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?

[Walter Branch]

What is the difference between a polymict breccia
and xenolithic breccia?

-Walter Branch


-
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To: "met list" 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?


On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:28:34 -0700, "Tom Knudson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello good people of the list!!!  Sure is slow today!!!  So, what is a
>xenolithic breccia?  What meteorites are considered a xenolithic breccia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenolith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breccia


>On Google, I only find Ghubara, but that can't be the only one.

One of my favorites was just mentioned a few days back-- NWA 3119

http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa3119.html

and my much more modest piece

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/nwa3119_both.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?

[Walter Branch]

What is the difference between a polymict breccia
and xenolithic breccia?

-Walter Branch


-
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To: "met list" 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?


On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:28:34 -0700, "Tom Knudson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello good people of the list!!!  Sure is slow today!!!  So, what is a
>xenolithic breccia?  What meteorites are considered a xenolithic breccia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenolith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breccia


>On Google, I only find Ghubara, but that can't be the only one.

One of my favorites was just mentioned a few days back-- NWA 3119

http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa3119.html

and my much more modest piece

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/nwa3119_both.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Next vacation: Rajasthan.

[Dawn & Gerald Flaherty]

I too. Jerry
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> Dear Doug, List;
> Here is a little quote I have found quite interesting
> "There is a grandeur in this view of life, with it's several powers,
> having beeen originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into
> one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the
> fixed laws of gravity,  from so simple a beginning endless forms most
> beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved".
> Charles Darwin's last words in the "Origin of Species By Means Of
> Natural Selection" circa 1859.
>
> I revel in the use of "Creator" and "evolved" being so closely used in
> the same paragraph.
> To our Florida friends "DUCK"!
> David F.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Manoj P. wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I do not buy that story of " Life could  have
> >>originated outside earth." This theory was originally
> >>raised  by Sir Fred Hoyle and Professor Chandra
> >>Wickramasinghe of University  College, Wales.
> >>Their publications included ``Diseases from Space''
> >>(1979)...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Hola List & Manoj,
> >
> >Please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, Manoj.
Wickramasinghe,
> >who had the opportunity to study with Fred Hoyle, is a  contemporary,
though
> >more limited, Sri Lankan version of what Carl Sagan  was to the world.
> >
> >Carl Sagan certainly published his thoughts on panspermia before the
> >gentlemen you mention, and probably is still the most influential voice
for
> >panspermia even after his passing.
> >
> >Manoj, the theory of life originating  outside of earth was not
originated by
> >the recent nebular life  origins extremists Chandra with Fred's support.
It
> >goes back at  least to the ancient Greeks.  Anaxagoras a bit after 500
BC, a
> >meteoritical  expert at the time (and tutor of Diogenes), discussed
panspermia.
> >
> >The  Swede Svante Arrhenius wrote, the same year he won the Nobel prize
in
> >chemistry:
> >"The Propagation of Life in Space", Die Umschau, 7, p. 481 (1903),  which
> >integrated the panspermia theory into a relatively rigorous format.
(What Hoyle
> >and Wickramasinghe have been erroneously given credit for by you and
others).
> >
> >Irish-born Lord Kelvin in 1871:
> >...we must regard it as  probable in the highest degree that there are
> >countless seed-bearing meteoric  stones moving about through
spaceWhen two great
> >masses come into collision  in space it is certain that a large part of
each
> >is melted; but it seems also  quite certain that in many cases a large
> >quantity of debris must be shot forth  in all directions, much of which
may have
> >experienced no greater violence than  individual pieces of rock
experience in a
> >land-slip or in blasting by  gunpowder The hypothesis that life
originated
> >on this earth through  moss-grown fragments from the ruins of another
world may
> >seem wild and  visionary, all I maintain is that it is not unscientific.
> >
> >Hope this helps.  It cracks me up to always see new guys voming along
and
> >taking credit for ideas that are ancient.  What's worse is when others
start
> >repeating these claims!
> >Saludos, Doug
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Re: [meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?

[Darren Garrison]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:28:34 -0700, "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello good people of the list!!!  Sure is slow today!!!  So, what is a
>xenolithic breccia?  What meteorites are considered a xenolithic breccia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenolith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breccia


>On Google, I only find Ghubara, but that can't be the only one.

One of my favorites was just mentioned a few days back-- NWA 3119

http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa3119.html

and my much more modest piece

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/nwa3119_both.jpg
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[meteorite-list] xenolithic breccia's?

[Tom Knudson]

Hello good people of the list!!!  Sure is slow today!!!  So, what is a
xenolithic breccia?  What meteorites are considered a xenolithic breccia?
On Google, I only find Ghubara, but that can't be the only one.


Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Next vacation: Rajasthan.

[MeteorHntr]

How many errors can we find in this story? 10? 15? 20?

Let's count them:

*
Clue to life in Thar meteorite rain
Sandipan Sharma

jaipur, july 9 Geologists in Rajasthan are baffled by large meteorites falling 
on western Rajasthan
at regular intervals over the past few years.
**

Error #1 "large meteorites" what is their definition of large?
Error #2 "regular intervals"

**
Scientists struggling to identify the cause of this celestial shower, 
*

Error #3 not knowing the cause?
Error #4 a 10 year long "shower"


have found the presence of
amino acids and other life-supporting organic compounds in the meteorites, 
which has led to an
interesting hypothesis: Life could have originated outside earth.
***

Error #5 "lead to an interesting hypothesis" as if no one else thought of this 
before.


Since 1995, at least 10 meteorites have fallen on various villages in western 
Rajasthan. The number
could be more as many such incidents go unreported.
“This is strange. Generally, chances of a meteorite falling in an area is once 
in 2000 years,” says
Prof B S Paliwal, head, Department of Geology, Jodhpur University. 
***

Error #6 "once in 2000 years" how big is Rajasthan?  If it were only 3 miles by 
3 miles, but isn't it about the size of Texas?


  Also, the meteorites usually fall
around the equator. 
***

Error#7 "usually fall around the equator" LOL, who is writing this stuff?


The regular fall in Thar is thus unexplained.
*

Error #8 "regular fall"
Error #9 "Unexplained" OK, maybe no one the reporter talked with is smart 
enough to explain it to him.

*
The first such fall was reported in 1994. 
*

Error #10 The 1984 BMNH Catalogue shows 12 falls from Rajasthan.

*
The meteorites usually fall between April-July. “Perhaps
this is the time when these bodies come into earth’s sphere of attraction 


Error #11 meteorites are not "attracted" they either run into Earth or Earth 
runs into them (or both)

*
and fall on this region
because of its position at that time. 
*

Error #12  While maybe that is someone's "theory" but it is still in error.

**
This is a theory that needs to be analysed,” 
**

Error #13  Really, it does NOT need to be analyzed.

**
says Dr M S
Sisodia, a geologist at Jodhpur University, who has been studying the 
phenomenon.
***

Error #14 Trust me, he hasn't been "studying the phenomenon" all that much.

***
“It may sound funny 
***

TRUE FACT #1:  Yes, this article does sound funny!

***
but there are possibilities that life may have originated on some other planet
like Mars,”
***

Error #15 The theory (as pointed out by MexicoDoug) points out that the theory 
is not all that funny.

***
 says Dr Sisodia, who presented a paper on the subject at NASA.
**


Would someone find the paper that the esteemed Dr. Sisodia presented at NASA?  
I would like to know what all it said.

I would also like to know how much NASA grant money this researcher made on 
this project?

Steve Arnold
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[meteorite-list] Raining meteorites!

[Dana]

Here is the link everyone.  Hope everyone is having a
great summer! 

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=50369


Dana Hawn

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA UNCLASSIFIED QUESTION

[bernd . pauli]

Jim inquired:

> I bought an unclassified nwa meteorite from Dean Bessey.
> He had it listed as R70. ... Was R70 just his numbering
> system? Or was 70 the NWA number? If it was the nwa #,
> any data on it other than it is a rumurutiite?

Hello Jim and List,

NWA 070 is an H6 chondrite that was purchased by Mike
Farmer and Michael Cottingham in August, 2000. It had a
TKW (= total known weight) of 8224 grams.

As Tom has already told you R70 was Dean's private numbering
system. But how would you know that the meteorite you bought
from Dean is an R chondrite?

If it is the R70 from Dean's "Friday Morning Meteorite Sale" last
May, it doesn't look very much like an R chondrite but rather like
an ordinary chondrite (a fact that does not diminish its beauty as
a meteorite - meteorites are beautiful, tell-tale messengers from
the asteroid belt !)

Here is the link once again:

http://www.meteoriteshop.com/sales/r1sale51-100.html


Best regards,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA UNCLASSIFIED QUESTION

[Tom Knudson]

Hey Jim, That is just Deans numbering system and has nothing at all to do
with it's type.
Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] NWA UNCLASSIFIED QUESTION

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I bought an unclassified nwa meteorite from Dean Bessey.  He had it listed as 
R70.  QUESTION is- Was R-70 just his numbering system?  Or was 70 the NWA 
number?  If it was the nwa #, any daty on it other then it is a rumurutiite?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Next vacation: Rajasthan.

[David Freeman mjwy]

Dear Doug, List;
Here is a little quote I have found quite interesting
"There is a grandeur in this view of life, with it's several powers, 
having beeen originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into 
one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the 
fixed laws of gravity,  from so simple a beginning endless forms most 
beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved".
Charles Darwin's last words in the "Origin of Species By Means Of 
Natural Selection" circa 1859.


I revel in the use of "Creator" and "evolved" being so closely used in 
the same paragraph.

To our Florida friends "DUCK"!
David F.

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Manoj P. wrote:
 


I do not buy that story of " Life could  have
originated outside earth." This theory was originally
raised  by Sir Fred Hoyle and Professor Chandra
Wickramasinghe of University  College, Wales.
Their publications included ``Diseases from Space''  
(1979)...
   



Hola List & Manoj,

Please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, Manoj.   Wickramasinghe, 
who had the opportunity to study with Fred Hoyle, is a  contemporary, though 
more limited, Sri Lankan version of what Carl Sagan  was to the world.


Carl Sagan certainly published his thoughts on panspermia before the  
gentlemen you mention, and probably is still the most influential voice for  
panspermia even after his passing.


Manoj, the theory of life originating  outside of earth was not originated by 
the recent nebular life  origins extremists Chandra with Fred's support.  It 
goes back at  least to the ancient Greeks.  Anaxagoras a bit after 500 BC, a 
meteoritical  expert at the time (and tutor of Diogenes), discussed panspermia.


The  Swede Svante Arrhenius wrote, the same year he won the Nobel prize in  
chemistry:
"The Propagation of Life in Space", Die Umschau, 7, p. 481 (1903),  which 
integrated the panspermia theory into a relatively rigorous format.   (What Hoyle 
and Wickramasinghe have been erroneously given credit for by you and  others).


Irish-born Lord Kelvin in 1871:
...we must regard it as  probable in the highest degree that there are 
countless seed-bearing meteoric  stones moving about through spaceWhen two great 
masses come into collision  in space it is certain that a large part of each 
is melted; but it seems also  quite certain that in many cases a large 
quantity of debris must be shot forth  in all directions, much of which may have 
experienced no greater violence than  individual pieces of rock experience in a 
land-slip or in blasting by  gunpowder The hypothesis that life originated 
on this earth through  moss-grown fragments from the ruins of another world may 
seem wild and  visionary, all I maintain is that it is not unscientific.


Hope this helps.  It cracks me up to always see new guys voming along  and 
taking credit for ideas that are ancient.  What's worse is when others  start 
repeating these claims!

Saludos, Doug

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[meteorite-list] Re: Now for the next scary space thing

[Paul H]

Darren Garrison posted   

"Now for the next scary space thing July 09,2005

http://www.jdnews.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=33352&Section=Opinion


Now for the next scary space thing July 09,2005 

There is a category of worries called Bad Stuff from
Outer 
Space, currently being ably exploited by the sci-fi
film 
"War of the Worlds" where the bad stuff is aliens."

There is "More Bad Stuff from Outer Space" involving
meteorites in 
"Undead" at;
http://horror.about.com/od/internationalhorror/gr/intl_undead.htm

Promos for some prime time commercial TV series
suggests that 
in addition to "War of The Worlds", we are in for a
spate of Bad Stuff 
from Outer Space in the form of body snatchers and
other alien 
invaders this Fall.

Best

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Re: [meteorite-list] Next vacation: Rajasthan.

[MexicoDoug]

Manoj P. wrote:
>I do not buy that story of " Life could  have
>originated outside earth." This theory was originally
>raised  by Sir Fred Hoyle and Professor Chandra
>Wickramasinghe of University  College, Wales.
>Their publications included ``Diseases from Space''  
>(1979)...

Hola List & Manoj,
 
Please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, Manoj.   Wickramasinghe, 
who had the opportunity to study with Fred Hoyle, is a  contemporary, though 
more limited, Sri Lankan version of what Carl Sagan  was to the world.
 
Carl Sagan certainly published his thoughts on panspermia before the  
gentlemen you mention, and probably is still the most influential voice for  
panspermia even after his passing.

Manoj, the theory of life originating  outside of earth was not originated by 
the recent nebular life  origins extremists Chandra with Fred's support.  It 
goes back at  least to the ancient Greeks.  Anaxagoras a bit after 500 BC, a 
meteoritical  expert at the time (and tutor of Diogenes), discussed panspermia.

The  Swede Svante Arrhenius wrote, the same year he won the Nobel prize in  
chemistry:
"The Propagation of Life in Space", Die Umschau, 7, p. 481 (1903),  which 
integrated the panspermia theory into a relatively rigorous format.   (What 
Hoyle 
and Wickramasinghe have been erroneously given credit for by you and  others).

Irish-born Lord Kelvin in 1871:
...we must regard it as  probable in the highest degree that there are 
countless seed-bearing meteoric  stones moving about through spaceWhen two 
great 
masses come into collision  in space it is certain that a large part of each 
is melted; but it seems also  quite certain that in many cases a large 
quantity of debris must be shot forth  in all directions, much of which may 
have 
experienced no greater violence than  individual pieces of rock experience in a 
land-slip or in blasting by  gunpowder The hypothesis that life originated 
on this earth through  moss-grown fragments from the ruins of another world may 
seem wild and  visionary, all I maintain is that it is not unscientific.
 
Hope this helps.  It cracks me up to always see new guys voming along  and 
taking credit for ideas that are ancient.  What's worse is when others  start 
repeating these claims!
Saludos, Doug
 
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[meteorite-list] Pairings (?): NWA 1109 - NWA 1553 - NWA 2226

[bernd . pauli]

Chicago Steve wrote:

> been wondering about the pairings of nwa 1109, nwa 2226,
> and nwa 1553. Are all these 3 paired or are 2 of them...?

Steve also wrote:

> I have a beautiful 58 gram slice of nwa 1553, which is unclassified.

So, how can it be paired to 1109 and/or 2226 if it is *unclassified* ?

> But it looks just like my old piece of nwa 1109.

Dean, too, suggested that NWA 1109 and NWA 1553 should be one and
the same meteorite, but, as he never got his NWA 1553 classified
(as far as I know), one cannot tell for sure.

My 8.6-gram NWA 1553 with its *large*, conspicuous, jet-black clasts (from
Dean) looks quite different than my small NWA 1109 piece (from the Hupes).

NWA 2226, on the other hand, has been officially classified as a
howardite by Prof. A. Bischoff (University, Münster, Germany).

And my 8.5-gram piece of NWA 2226 has those light-colored streaks that
neither 1109 nor 1553 have. A similar, vein-like layered texture has also
been observed in a few Millbillillies, but these are a light- to medium-gray.

Can anyone shed more light on these subparallel light-clored layers of
Dean's NWA 2226? For Millbillillie, Yamaguchi et al. propose an impact
event.

Reference:

YAMAGUCHI A. et al. (1994) Textural variations and impact history
of the Millbillillie eucrite (Meteoritics 29-2, 1994, pp. 237-245).


Regards,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] AD-Umbarger, Mt Tazerzait

[Matt Morgan]

Hi All:
A friend dropped off a few meteorites he wants me to sell. These have
been in his collection for the last several years.

Campo del Cielo-These are Campo Nuevos with good character. Priced at $50/kg

Campo 12 kg $600.00


Campo 8.3 kg $415.00


Campo 7.4 kg $370.00


Mount Tazerzait-Fell August 21, 1991 in Niger, L5-Amomalous. These are
very nice slabs and one fragment of a meteorite that has virtually
vanished from the market. Plus these have FUSION CRUST, which is very
hard to get on Taz due to its high porosity
Priced at only $4.50/g
Image here of the 49.5g slice


112g-elongate part slice with small edge of fusion crust
72g-elongate part slice with small edge of fusion crust
49.5g part slice
15.7g fragment with fusion crust
13.1g part slice with small piece of crust

Umbarger L3-6; While not very attractive, Umbarger is an unusal American
L3-6 from the State of Texas. A giveaway here at $3.50/g!!
Image here of the 123g slice

123.5g half slice with crust
46.5g part slice with crust
20.3g part slice with crust
14.5g part slice with crust
6.6g part slice with crust
others available

Shipping is an extra charge for these consignment pieces.
Thanks!

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http://www.mhmeteorites.com
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Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
eBay user id: mhmeteorites


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Re: [meteorite-list] Next vacation: Rajasthan.

[Manoj Pai]

Thanks for the link Darren, I read it in today's
papers. So, when do you plan to come here. Maybe we
can arrange to meet somewhere ;-)

A few notes :- "large meteorites falling on western
Rajasthan at regular intervals" is known case,
however, I do not buy that story of " Life could have
originated outside earth." This theory was originally
raised by Sir Fred Hoyle and Professor Chandra
Wickramasinghe of
University College, Wales. Their publications included
``Diseases from Space'' (1979), and ``Space Travelers:
The Origins of Life'' (1980) are well known cases.

Joe Nickel and many others had debunked this theory in
the CSICOP Journal - The Skeptical Inquirer.

BTW the Sindhurst meteorite which fell in Rajasthan
was recovered. Its an Iron and is being analysed.

More later.

Manoj
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http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=74183
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> Clue to life in Thar meteorite rain 
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