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Tom said: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:27:01 -0700 From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - 99942Apophis) To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi List, I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out there to give an opinion on this? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< With all due respect, I think this is one of the stupidest emails I have read in a long while. So, on this basis, all scientific endeavour that has helped progress and survive should have been stopped in the caves with our ancestors? The argument presented here is so egregious that I cannot even start to comment. What's this got to do with "women right activists"? bloody hell, it has come to something when intellectual fundamentalists are in our midst! Regs dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Jerry, "The mind's and it's technology would be a waste of millions if not billions of years of evolution." I guess we should stop the asteroid, besides, what would N. Korea do with their nuclear weapons if an asteroid destroyed the earth first. Life as we know it is going to end one way or the other someday, and I would rather it be an asteroid than "The mind's and it's technology " Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Dawn & Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4-99942Apophis) > Hey Tom, we're part and parcel of what "Mother Nature's" conjured up, so why > not do her bidding. The mind's and it's technology would be a waste of > millions if not billions of years of evolution. Jerry > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Meteorite Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 > MN4 -99942Apophis) > > > > Hi List, > > I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the > beginning > > of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" > thinks > > it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? > > Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, > > tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should > > we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! > > : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for > > T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows > > what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out > there > > to give an opinion on this? > > Thanks, Tom > > peregrineflier <>< > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Meteorite Mailing List" > > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:05 PM > > Subject: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - > > 99942Apophis) > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0726/p01s04-stss.html > > > > > > An asteroid, headed our way > > > By Peter N. Spotts > > > The Christian Science Monitor > > > July 26, 2005 > > > > > > Humans live in a vast solar system where 2,000 feet seems a razor-thin > > > distance. > > > > > > Yet it's just wide enough to trigger concerns that an asteroid due to > > > buzz Earth on April 13, 2029 may shift its orbit enough to return and > > > strike the planet seven years later. > > > > > > The concern: Within the object's range of possible fly-by distances lie > > > a handful of gravitational "sweet spots," areas some 2,000 feet across > > > that are also known as keyholes. > > > > > > The physics may sound complex, but the potential ramifications are plain > > > enough. If the asteroid passes through the most probable keyhole, its > > > new orbit would send it slamming into Earth in 2036. It's unclear to > > > some experts whether ground-based observatories alone will be able to > > > provide enough accurate information in time to mount a mission to divert > > > the asteroid, if that becomes necessary. > > > > > > So NASA researchers have begun considering whether the US needs to tag > > > the asteroid, known as 99942 Apophis, with a radio beacon before 2013. > > > > > > Timing is everything, astronomers say. If officials attempt to divert > > > the asteroid before 2029, they need to nudge the space rock's position > > > by roughly half a mile - something well within the range of existing > > > technology. After 2029, they would need to shove the asteroid by a > > > distance as least as large as Earth's diameter. That feat would tax > > > humanity's current capabilities. > > > > > > NASA's review of the issue was triggered by a letter from the B612 > > > Foundation. The foundation's handful of specialists hope to demonstrate > > > controlled asteroid-diversion techniques by 2015. > > > > > > Last Wednesday, representatives from the foundation met with colleagues > > > at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to review the issue. The > > > foundation's letter marks the first time specialists in the > > > asteroid-hazard field have called for a scouting mission to assess such > > > a threat. > > > > > > "We understand the risk from this object, and while it's small, it's not > > > zero," says David Morrison, the senior scientist at NASA's Astrobiology > > > Institute at the Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif. > > > > > > The call for a reconnaissance mission also illustrates how far the field > > > of asteroid-hazard assessment has come. > > > > > > "Ten years ago, we would have been blissfully ignorant," says Donald > > > Yeomans, who heads NASA's near-Earth object project at JPL. Today, at > > > least five programs worldwide are hunting down near-Earth objects.
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Hey Tom, we're part and parcel of what "Mother Nature's" conjured up, so why not do her bidding. The mind's and it's technology would be a waste of millions if not billions of years of evolution. Jerry - Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis) > Hi List, > I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning > of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks > it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? > Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, > tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should > we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! > : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for > T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows > what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out there > to give an opinion on this? > Thanks, Tom > peregrineflier <>< > > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Meteorite Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:05 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - > 99942Apophis) > > > > > > > > http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0726/p01s04-stss.html > > > > An asteroid, headed our way > > By Peter N. Spotts > > The Christian Science Monitor > > July 26, 2005 > > > > Humans live in a vast solar system where 2,000 feet seems a razor-thin > > distance. > > > > Yet it's just wide enough to trigger concerns that an asteroid due to > > buzz Earth on April 13, 2029 may shift its orbit enough to return and > > strike the planet seven years later. > > > > The concern: Within the object's range of possible fly-by distances lie > > a handful of gravitational "sweet spots," areas some 2,000 feet across > > that are also known as keyholes. > > > > The physics may sound complex, but the potential ramifications are plain > > enough. If the asteroid passes through the most probable keyhole, its > > new orbit would send it slamming into Earth in 2036. It's unclear to > > some experts whether ground-based observatories alone will be able to > > provide enough accurate information in time to mount a mission to divert > > the asteroid, if that becomes necessary. > > > > So NASA researchers have begun considering whether the US needs to tag > > the asteroid, known as 99942 Apophis, with a radio beacon before 2013. > > > > Timing is everything, astronomers say. If officials attempt to divert > > the asteroid before 2029, they need to nudge the space rock's position > > by roughly half a mile - something well within the range of existing > > technology. After 2029, they would need to shove the asteroid by a > > distance as least as large as Earth's diameter. That feat would tax > > humanity's current capabilities. > > > > NASA's review of the issue was triggered by a letter from the B612 > > Foundation. The foundation's handful of specialists hope to demonstrate > > controlled asteroid-diversion techniques by 2015. > > > > Last Wednesday, representatives from the foundation met with colleagues > > at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to review the issue. The > > foundation's letter marks the first time specialists in the > > asteroid-hazard field have called for a scouting mission to assess such > > a threat. > > > > "We understand the risk from this object, and while it's small, it's not > > zero," says David Morrison, the senior scientist at NASA's Astrobiology > > Institute at the Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif. > > > > The call for a reconnaissance mission also illustrates how far the field > > of asteroid-hazard assessment has come. > > > > "Ten years ago, we would have been blissfully ignorant," says Donald > > Yeomans, who heads NASA's near-Earth object project at JPL. Today, at > > least five programs worldwide are hunting down near-Earth objects. NASA > > is well on its way toward achieving its goal of cataloging 90 percent of > > the near-Earth objects larger than 0.6 miles across by 2008. And it is > > devising ways to ensure that information about potential hazards reaches > > top decisionmakers throughout the government. > > > > Based on available data, astronomers give Apophis - a 1,000-foot wide > > chunk of space debris - a 1-in-15,000 chance of a 2036 strike. Yet if > > the asteroid hits, they add, damage to infrastructure alone could exceed > > $400 billion. When the possibility of the asteroid passing through two > > other keyholes is taken into account, the combined chance of the > > asteroid hitting the planet shifts to 1 in 10,000, notes Clark Chapman, > > a senior scientist with the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo. > > > > "A frequent flier probably would not want to board an
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> P.S. in case you are not aware, they think aids > started my some pervert > getting a little to personal with a monkey. > That's possible. But another route of HIV transference, considered more likely, is eating of poorly cooked monkey flesh. I recall seeing photographs of this "cuisine" from the early 1960s. It's certainly an area where there is still substantial mystery. Celestial mechanical disasters are much more predictable. If Apophis passes through the keyhole we are screwed. Francis Graham __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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> > Hi List, > I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning > of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks > it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? > Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, > tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should > we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! It's a philisophical question. But in all these natural disasters, we do take steps to try to mininize the human lives lost, through monitoring and early warning systems, and evacuations. We would try to stop any of them if we could. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Is this a joke? Are all people from Kingman this stupid? Tom, I normally have no problem with you, but this is outrageous. No wonder Bush won the election, with the lack of education showing in that last post, I am appalled. No wonder the Republicans put the gay marriage issue on many state ballots. It sure riles up the otherwise non-voting pupulation I see. You homophobia does not belong on this list. And no, I am not gay, but I will not come home to read this idiocy on the Meteorite List. Take it to the redneck trailer-trash gay hating list, but KEEP IT OFF THIS LIST! Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4-99942Apophis) Hi Pete and list, "Do you really believe "mother nature" is a calculating, sentient, deity-like existence in control of all things in the universe? Or would the comet/asteroid be doing the thinking?" No, of course not, but I do believe s _ _ t happens! If humans cause a disaster, we should fix it, like oil spills and the ozone layer, but other things should be left alone. Look at the fire problems humans created at Yellowstone, they thought for years they should put out all fires, but then learned to let them burn. I am not afraid to die, I believe when it's your time, it is your time, I have been around plenty long enough. I would love for the last thing I ever see, to be the best fireball ever, what a way to go! "Also, your belief about the origin of AIDS is urban legend - you need a new source for information." I heard they traced it back to the start, a gay bath house in SF, a gay cruise, a whore house in Africa, and a monkey F_ _ ker who frequented the said whore house, but that is only saw on the discovery channel, but they could have wrong! : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis) Hi, all, Hi, Tom, I thought this was tongue-in-cheek, but your second post indicates it's not! >"Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing!"< Do you really believe "mother nature" is a calculating, sentient, deity-like existence in control of all things in the universe? Or would the comet/asteroid be doing the thinking? Also, your belief about the origin of AIDS is urban legend - you need a new source for information. Beam me outta here! Regards, Pete (You were kidding, right?) From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:27:01 -0700 Hi List, I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out there to give an opinion on this? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - 99942Apophis) > > > http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0726/p01s04-stss.html > > An asteroid, headed our way > By Peter N. Spotts > The Christian Science Monitor > July 26, 2005 > > Humans live in a vast solar system where 2,000 feet seems a razor-thin > distance. > > Yet it's just wide enough to trigger concerns that an asteroid due to > buzz Earth on April 13, 2029 may shift its orbit enough to return and > strike the planet seven years later. > > The concern: Within the object's range of possible fly-by distances lie > a handful of gravitational "sweet spots," areas some 2,000 feet across > that are also known as keyholes. > > The physics may sound complex, but the potential ramifications are plain > enough. If the asteroid passes through the most probable keyhole, its > new orbit would send it slamming into Earth in 2036. It's unclear to > some experts whether ground-based observatories alone will be able to > provide enough accurate information in time to mount a mission to divert > the asteroid, if that becomes necessary. > > So NASA researchers have begun considering whether the US needs to tag > the asteroid, known as 99942 Apophis, with a r
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Hi Pete and list, "Do you really believe "mother nature" is a calculating, sentient, deity-like existence in control of all things in the universe? Or would the comet/asteroid be doing the thinking?" No, of course not, but I do believe s _ _ t happens! If humans cause a disaster, we should fix it, like oil spills and the ozone layer, but other things should be left alone. Look at the fire problems humans created at Yellowstone, they thought for years they should put out all fires, but then learned to let them burn. I am not afraid to die, I believe when it's your time, it is your time, I have been around plenty long enough. I would love for the last thing I ever see, to be the best fireball ever, what a way to go! "Also, your belief about the origin of AIDS is urban legend - you need a new source for information." I heard they traced it back to the start, a gay bath house in SF, a gay cruise, a whore house in Africa, and a monkey F_ _ ker who frequented the said whore house, but that is only saw on the discovery channel, but they could have wrong! : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis) > Hi, all, > > Hi, Tom, > > I thought this was tongue-in-cheek, but your second post indicates it's not! > > >"Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing!"< > > Do you really believe "mother nature" is a calculating, sentient, deity-like > existence in control of all things in the universe? > Or would the comet/asteroid be doing the thinking? > > Also, your belief about the origin of AIDS is urban legend - you need a new > source for information. > > Beam me outta here! > Regards, > Pete > (You were kidding, right?) > > > From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Meteorite Mailing List" > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 > -99942Apophis) > Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:27:01 -0700 > > Hi List, > I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning > of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks > it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? > Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, > tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should > we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! > : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for > T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows > what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out there > to give an opinion on this? > Thanks, Tom > peregrineflier <>< > > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Meteorite Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:05 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - > 99942Apophis) > > > > > > > > http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0726/p01s04-stss.html > > > > An asteroid, headed our way > > By Peter N. Spotts > > The Christian Science Monitor > > July 26, 2005 > > > > Humans live in a vast solar system where 2,000 feet seems a razor-thin > > distance. > > > > Yet it's just wide enough to trigger concerns that an asteroid due to > > buzz Earth on April 13, 2029 may shift its orbit enough to return and > > strike the planet seven years later. > > > > The concern: Within the object's range of possible fly-by distances lie > > a handful of gravitational "sweet spots," areas some 2,000 feet across > > that are also known as keyholes. > > > > The physics may sound complex, but the potential ramifications are plain > > enough. If the asteroid passes through the most probable keyhole, its > > new orbit would send it slamming into Earth in 2036. It's unclear to > > some experts whether ground-based observatories alone will be able to > > provide enough accurate information in time to mount a mission to divert > > the asteroid, if that becomes necessary. > > > > So NASA researchers have begun considering whether the US needs to tag > > the asteroid, known as 99942 Apophis, with a radio beacon before 2013. > > > > Timing is everything, astronomers say. If officials attempt to divert > > the asteroid before 2029, they need to nudge the space rock's position > > by roughly half a mile - something well within the range of existing > > technology. After 2029, they would need to shove the asteroid by a > > distance as least as large as Earth's diameter. That feat would tax > > humanity's current capabilities. > > > > NASA's review of the issue was triggered by a letter from the B612 > > Foundation. The foundation's handful of specialists hope to demonstrate > > controlled asteroid-diversion techniques by 2015. > > > > Last Wednesday, representatives from the foundation me
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Hi, all, Hi, Tom, I thought this was tongue-in-cheek, but your second post indicates it's not! "Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing!"< Do you really believe "mother nature" is a calculating, sentient, deity-like existence in control of all things in the universe? Or would the comet/asteroid be doing the thinking? Also, your belief about the origin of AIDS is urban legend - you need a new source for information. Beam me outta here! Regards, Pete (You were kidding, right?) From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:27:01 -0700 Hi List, I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out there to give an opinion on this? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - 99942Apophis) > > > http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0726/p01s04-stss.html > > An asteroid, headed our way > By Peter N. Spotts > The Christian Science Monitor > July 26, 2005 > > Humans live in a vast solar system where 2,000 feet seems a razor-thin > distance. > > Yet it's just wide enough to trigger concerns that an asteroid due to > buzz Earth on April 13, 2029 may shift its orbit enough to return and > strike the planet seven years later. > > The concern: Within the object's range of possible fly-by distances lie > a handful of gravitational "sweet spots," areas some 2,000 feet across > that are also known as keyholes. > > The physics may sound complex, but the potential ramifications are plain > enough. If the asteroid passes through the most probable keyhole, its > new orbit would send it slamming into Earth in 2036. It's unclear to > some experts whether ground-based observatories alone will be able to > provide enough accurate information in time to mount a mission to divert > the asteroid, if that becomes necessary. > > So NASA researchers have begun considering whether the US needs to tag > the asteroid, known as 99942 Apophis, with a radio beacon before 2013. > > Timing is everything, astronomers say. If officials attempt to divert > the asteroid before 2029, they need to nudge the space rock's position > by roughly half a mile - something well within the range of existing > technology. After 2029, they would need to shove the asteroid by a > distance as least as large as Earth's diameter. That feat would tax > humanity's current capabilities. > > NASA's review of the issue was triggered by a letter from the B612 > Foundation. The foundation's handful of specialists hope to demonstrate > controlled asteroid-diversion techniques by 2015. > > Last Wednesday, representatives from the foundation met with colleagues > at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to review the issue. The > foundation's letter marks the first time specialists in the > asteroid-hazard field have called for a scouting mission to assess such > a threat. > > "We understand the risk from this object, and while it's small, it's not > zero," says David Morrison, the senior scientist at NASA's Astrobiology > Institute at the Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif. > > The call for a reconnaissance mission also illustrates how far the field > of asteroid-hazard assessment has come. > > "Ten years ago, we would have been blissfully ignorant," says Donald > Yeomans, who heads NASA's near-Earth object project at JPL. Today, at > least five programs worldwide are hunting down near-Earth objects. NASA > is well on its way toward achieving its goal of cataloging 90 percent of > the near-Earth objects larger than 0.6 miles across by 2008. And it is > devising ways to ensure that information about potential hazards reaches > top decisionmakers throughout the government. > > Based on available data, astronomers give Apophis - a 1,000-foot wide > chunk of space debris - a 1-in-15,000 chance of a 2036 strike. Yet if > the asteroid hits, they add, damage to infrastructure alone could exceed > $400 billion. When the possibility of the asteroid passing through two > other keyholes is taken into account, the combined chance of the > asteroid hitting the planet shifts to 1 in 10,000, notes Clark Chapman, > a senior scientist with the Sou
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Tom opined: > Is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning > of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother > nature" thinks it's time for mankind to end, then do we have > the right to stop it? Absolutely. Not only the right, but the obligation. > Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, > tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcanos, because we can not, > should we stop asteroids just because we can? While we cannot (currently) prevent the other types of natural disasters you list, technology already allows us to minimize their impact as far as loss of life. Weather satellites and Doppler radar take care of tornados and hurricanes; seismic monitoring and CO2 detectors handle volcanoes; ocean buoys, seismographs and radio can provide advance warning of tsunamis. > Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing! I have to believe that human beings were given a brain for a reason: to USE it. Consider how fortunate we are to live at the precise point in time where we are transitioning from being helpless victims of the next asteroid strike to actually being able to prevent it. Perhaps a few million years ago "Mother Nature" got tired of being whacked by mass-extinction space rocks every few dozen million years and having all her hard work wiped out in an afternoon, and so decided to come up with a defense mechanism: us! --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4-99942Apophis)
Chris wrote; "A few hundred years ago the bubonic plague was a natural disaster. Should we throw away penicillin" Sure, I prefer Amoxicilin anyways! : ) I personally would consider the bubonic plague a epidemic not really a natural disaster. Just like Aids, it's a epidemic, there is nothing "natural" about having sex with monkeys so therefore not a "natural disaster". P.S. in case you are not aware, they think aids started my some pervert getting a little to personal with a monkey. Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4-99942Apophis) > A few hundred years ago the bubonic plague was a natural disaster. Should we > throw away penicillin? > > Chris > > * > Chris L Peterson > Cloudbait Observatory > http://www.cloudbait.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Meteorite Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 > MN4 -99942Apophis) > > > > Hi List, > > I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the > > beginning > > of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" > > thinks > > it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? > > Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, > > tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should > > we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! > > : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for > > T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows > > what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out > > there > > to give an opinion on this? > > Thanks, Tom > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis)
Dear all who ponder "messing with science"; Short of Soylent Green, I prefer most scientific advances. Especially cars, homes heated with refined petroleum, flipping on the switch to see in the dark...I have been known to enjoy a good aspirin now and then, and a refined caffeine product called coffee (not to mention the creamy glazed donuts)! If science and messing with "natural selection" can double my life span as it does nowI doubt I go back to living in trees and eating roots, berries, and scrounging lion kills... Selected, Dave F. Chris Peterson wrote: A few hundred years ago the bubonic plague was a natural disaster. Should we throw away penicillin? Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis) Hi List, I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out there to give an opinion on this? Thanks, Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion Needed
> Well, I will gladly join you in the circle of idiots, because I will not > give my account number out either! I was asked to one time and did not feel > right and asked a few list members that warned me it was not a good idea. > After all, I pay my car insurance using check by phone, all they ask for is > the account number, routing number and what bank and state. If that is all > they need to take money out of my account, anyone with that info can pay > there bills using my account if they have that info and I have a hard enough > time paying my bills, I am not about to pay someone else's for them! > Sorry, there are plenty of other methods to send money with out taking > chances you don't need to take! : ) > Hi Hmm, continuing this OT little longer, just for fun :) I cant understand how someone can get money from ANY account. If You like pay bills, You must f.e go to bank and specify when, how often, and where (bank account) You want pay. You can do this in Net Banking also, but YOU doing this, not anyone else. If You like pay someone, You go to bank and transfering momey. Noone can transfer money from someone else account without his action. Its fundamental principle. In Poland You can write Your bank account on Your car back. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis)
A few hundred years ago the bubonic plague was a natural disaster. Should we throw away penicillin? Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 -99942Apophis) Hi List, I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out there to give an opinion on this? Thanks, Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - 99942Apophis)
Hi List, I have to ask, is it right to mess with "mother nature"? From the beginning of time cosmic events have been part of nature. If "mother nature" thinks it's time for mankind to end, then do we have the right to stop it? Natural disasters are part of life, we will never stop earthquakes, tornados, tidal waves, hurricanes or volcano's, because we can not, should we stop asteroids just because we can? I say, let nature take it's coarse! : ) Heck, if it were not for asteroids, we would be watching out for T-rex's when ever we went out to the store for milk! Mother nature knows what she's doing, let her do her thing! Any women right activists out there to give an opinion on this? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - 99942Apophis) > > > http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0726/p01s04-stss.html > > An asteroid, headed our way > By Peter N. Spotts > The Christian Science Monitor > July 26, 2005 > > Humans live in a vast solar system where 2,000 feet seems a razor-thin > distance. > > Yet it's just wide enough to trigger concerns that an asteroid due to > buzz Earth on April 13, 2029 may shift its orbit enough to return and > strike the planet seven years later. > > The concern: Within the object's range of possible fly-by distances lie > a handful of gravitational "sweet spots," areas some 2,000 feet across > that are also known as keyholes. > > The physics may sound complex, but the potential ramifications are plain > enough. If the asteroid passes through the most probable keyhole, its > new orbit would send it slamming into Earth in 2036. It's unclear to > some experts whether ground-based observatories alone will be able to > provide enough accurate information in time to mount a mission to divert > the asteroid, if that becomes necessary. > > So NASA researchers have begun considering whether the US needs to tag > the asteroid, known as 99942 Apophis, with a radio beacon before 2013. > > Timing is everything, astronomers say. If officials attempt to divert > the asteroid before 2029, they need to nudge the space rock's position > by roughly half a mile - something well within the range of existing > technology. After 2029, they would need to shove the asteroid by a > distance as least as large as Earth's diameter. That feat would tax > humanity's current capabilities. > > NASA's review of the issue was triggered by a letter from the B612 > Foundation. The foundation's handful of specialists hope to demonstrate > controlled asteroid-diversion techniques by 2015. > > Last Wednesday, representatives from the foundation met with colleagues > at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to review the issue. The > foundation's letter marks the first time specialists in the > asteroid-hazard field have called for a scouting mission to assess such > a threat. > > "We understand the risk from this object, and while it's small, it's not > zero," says David Morrison, the senior scientist at NASA's Astrobiology > Institute at the Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif. > > The call for a reconnaissance mission also illustrates how far the field > of asteroid-hazard assessment has come. > > "Ten years ago, we would have been blissfully ignorant," says Donald > Yeomans, who heads NASA's near-Earth object project at JPL. Today, at > least five programs worldwide are hunting down near-Earth objects. NASA > is well on its way toward achieving its goal of cataloging 90 percent of > the near-Earth objects larger than 0.6 miles across by 2008. And it is > devising ways to ensure that information about potential hazards reaches > top decisionmakers throughout the government. > > Based on available data, astronomers give Apophis - a 1,000-foot wide > chunk of space debris - a 1-in-15,000 chance of a 2036 strike. Yet if > the asteroid hits, they add, damage to infrastructure alone could exceed > $400 billion. When the possibility of the asteroid passing through two > other keyholes is taken into account, the combined chance of the > asteroid hitting the planet shifts to 1 in 10,000, notes Clark Chapman, > a senior scientist with the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo. > > "A frequent flier probably would not want to board an airliner if > there's a 1-in-10,000 chance it's going to crash," he says. > > The asteroid in question was discovered last June. Initially, it looked > as though it might strike Earth in 2029. But additional observations > eliminated that possibility. Instead the asteroid will come within > 22,600 miles of Earth - just inside the altitude where major > communications satellites orbit. The asteroid will be visible to the > naked eye in the night skies over Europe and western Africa, where it > will appear a bit dimmer than the North Star. > > But this estimated distance carries an uncertainty that s
[meteorite-list] (AD) titolar individuals for trade
Hi list.I have 4 very nice TITOLAR individuals for trade.They are 24.9 100% crust,a 27.6 grams 100%crust,a 25 gram 99.5% crusted,and a 36.3 gram 90% crusted piece.I am looking for ordinary specimens.Like ZAG,DIMMITT,DAVY(a) or (b),anything that I do not have.I will be putting these on my homepage.I do not if these have been classiifed or not yet,but the specimen cards say no,but that could have changed.For an ordinary chondrite,these have to be one of the most beautiful meteorite for individauls I have ever seen. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] An Asteroid Headed Our Way (2004 MN4 - 99942 Apophis)
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0726/p01s04-stss.html An asteroid, headed our way By Peter N. Spotts The Christian Science Monitor July 26, 2005 Humans live in a vast solar system where 2,000 feet seems a razor-thin distance. Yet it's just wide enough to trigger concerns that an asteroid due to buzz Earth on April 13, 2029 may shift its orbit enough to return and strike the planet seven years later. The concern: Within the object's range of possible fly-by distances lie a handful of gravitational "sweet spots," areas some 2,000 feet across that are also known as keyholes. The physics may sound complex, but the potential ramifications are plain enough. If the asteroid passes through the most probable keyhole, its new orbit would send it slamming into Earth in 2036. It's unclear to some experts whether ground-based observatories alone will be able to provide enough accurate information in time to mount a mission to divert the asteroid, if that becomes necessary. So NASA researchers have begun considering whether the US needs to tag the asteroid, known as 99942 Apophis, with a radio beacon before 2013. Timing is everything, astronomers say. If officials attempt to divert the asteroid before 2029, they need to nudge the space rock's position by roughly half a mile - something well within the range of existing technology. After 2029, they would need to shove the asteroid by a distance as least as large as Earth's diameter. That feat would tax humanity's current capabilities. NASA's review of the issue was triggered by a letter from the B612 Foundation. The foundation's handful of specialists hope to demonstrate controlled asteroid-diversion techniques by 2015. Last Wednesday, representatives from the foundation met with colleagues at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to review the issue. The foundation's letter marks the first time specialists in the asteroid-hazard field have called for a scouting mission to assess such a threat. "We understand the risk from this object, and while it's small, it's not zero," says David Morrison, the senior scientist at NASA's Astrobiology Institute at the Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif. The call for a reconnaissance mission also illustrates how far the field of asteroid-hazard assessment has come. "Ten years ago, we would have been blissfully ignorant," says Donald Yeomans, who heads NASA's near-Earth object project at JPL. Today, at least five programs worldwide are hunting down near-Earth objects. NASA is well on its way toward achieving its goal of cataloging 90 percent of the near-Earth objects larger than 0.6 miles across by 2008. And it is devising ways to ensure that information about potential hazards reaches top decisionmakers throughout the government. Based on available data, astronomers give Apophis - a 1,000-foot wide chunk of space debris - a 1-in-15,000 chance of a 2036 strike. Yet if the asteroid hits, they add, damage to infrastructure alone could exceed $400 billion. When the possibility of the asteroid passing through two other keyholes is taken into account, the combined chance of the asteroid hitting the planet shifts to 1 in 10,000, notes Clark Chapman, a senior scientist with the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo. "A frequent flier probably would not want to board an airliner if there's a 1-in-10,000 chance it's going to crash," he says. The asteroid in question was discovered last June. Initially, it looked as though it might strike Earth in 2029. But additional observations eliminated that possibility. Instead the asteroid will come within 22,600 miles of Earth - just inside the altitude where major communications satellites orbit. The asteroid will be visible to the naked eye in the night skies over Europe and western Africa, where it will appear a bit dimmer than the North Star. But this estimated distance carries an uncertainty that spans several thousand miles either side of its expected path - a region of space that includes three gravitational keyholes. JPL's analysis will look at several factors. One involves estimating whether additional ground observations will be sufficient to resolve the question of whether the asteroid will pass through one of the keyholes. The asteroid belongs to a class known as Atens, which orbit the sun in less than a year and pass through Earth's orbit. Because Atens spend so much of their time in the direction of the Sun, observations from Earth are difficult. After next year, the next opportunity to gather data on the asteroid from the ground will come in 2012-2013. In addition, questions remain over how long a tagging mission - and if necessary a deflection mission - would take to plan and execute. If missions can be mounted in six years or less, NASA could postpone a decision to tag the asteroid until 2014. This would give astronomers time to incorporate their latest observations as they refine calculations of Apophis's orbit. But if a tagging mission took seven to e
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion Needed
Let be realistic, Identity theft is a huge global problem. You would have to be a nut to give out any account number to complete a simple ebay purchase. I'm w/ you CJ. Keep the account #'s confidential. Bob - Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Peanut .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion Needed CJ Lebel wrote; " I seem to have made an idiot of myself in saying NOT to give out account numbers" Well, I will gladly join you in the circle of idiots, because I will not give my account number out either! I was asked to one time and did not feel right and asked a few list members that warned me it was not a good idea. After all, I pay my car insurance using check by phone, all they ask for is the account number, routing number and what bank and state. If that is all they need to take money out of my account, anyone with that info can pay there bills using my account if they have that info and I have a hard enough time paying my bills, I am not about to pay someone else's for them! Sorry, there are plenty of other methods to send money with out taking chances you don't need to take! : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Peanut .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Opinion Needed Hello All, I seem to have made an idiot of myself in saying NOT to give out account numbers. I have always heard it was a bad practice and didn't realize it was such a common practice in Europe. Please forgive my paranoia! CJ Lebel IMCA# 3432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cjsmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion Needed
CJ Lebel wrote; " I seem to have made an idiot of myself in saying NOT to give out account numbers" Well, I will gladly join you in the circle of idiots, because I will not give my account number out either! I was asked to one time and did not feel right and asked a few list members that warned me it was not a good idea. After all, I pay my car insurance using check by phone, all they ask for is the account number, routing number and what bank and state. If that is all they need to take money out of my account, anyone with that info can pay there bills using my account if they have that info and I have a hard enough time paying my bills, I am not about to pay someone else's for them! Sorry, there are plenty of other methods to send money with out taking chances you don't need to take! : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "Peanut .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Opinion Needed > Hello All, > > I seem to have made an idiot of myself in saying NOT to give out account > numbers. I have always heard it was a bad practice and didn't realize it was > such a common practice in Europe. > > Please forgive my paranoia! > > > CJ Lebel > IMCA# 3432 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.cjsmeteorites.com > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Opinion Needed
Hello All, I seem to have made an idiot of myself in saying NOT to give out account numbers. I have always heard it was a bad practice and didn't realize it was such a common practice in Europe. Please forgive my paranoia! CJ Lebel IMCA# 3432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cjsmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD, Large ebay sale, thousands of $$$$ in items
Hi everyone, I have over 50 nice meteorites ending on Wednesday, but several thousand dollars in specimens, most started at one cent! Some items of note: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6547759790 Large Brahin slice, translucent crystals. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6547761987 Rumurutiite individual, $3000.00+ piece, started at one cent! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6547778265 Sikhote-Alin, flight oriented, WITH HOLE! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6547774458 Nice cut individual of NWA 753, R3.9 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6547782791 Dhofar 1230, entire main mass with collection photos and field bag. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6547759141 Large Esquel partslice! Again, this is well over $4,000 in meteorites, highest bid gets them, don't wait 'cause eBay can mess up and you wouldn't get your bid in. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] H3 on ebay
Hello at few hours ending the 2 auctions of the nice H3 NWA 2179, this is the unique 2 big pieces available. For who want look here http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=mcomemeteorite Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Canadians in the Prairies Can Help Find Meteorites
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2005/25/c4177.html Canadians in the Prairies can help find clues about the Solar System Canada NewsWire Group July 25, 2005 LONGUEUIL, July 25 /CNW Telbec/ - Each of the past five summers, a field campaign has been organized for the Prairie region to find and study new meteorites. Tom Weedmark, a geology student from the University of Calgary, is conducting the Prairie Meteorite Search this summer. Until the end of August, he will visit towns in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba to present specimens to interested people so they can learn about the key characteristics. So if you think you have found a meteorite, bring it along to be identified. "Meteorite finds are important because they provide clues about the history of our Solar System," says Dr. Alan Hildebrand, from the Department of Geology and Geophysics at the University of Calgary. "Most meteorites are fragments of asteroids formed at the birth of our solar system, and they provide us with precious insights into its origins." As the second largest country in the world, Canada is a vast target for meteorites. In the last five years, some 700 meteorites are estimated to have fallen here. However, meteorites are still some of the scarcest material on Earth, much more rare than gold. They are sought after by collectors and researchers alike. Winnipeg-based rock collector Derek Erstelle is the only person in Canada to have found two meteorites, the first in 1998 near Pinawa and the other in 2002 near Bernic Lake, in Manitoba. Finding more than one meteorite in the same area may indicate that many were carried and left there by glaciers that retreated from Western Canada at the end of the last Ice Age. "Derek found these where two lobes of the Laurentide ice sheet met about 11,500 years ago," says Dr. Hildebrand. "He may have located a meteorite stranding surface where hundreds or thousands of meteorites were concentrated by glacial flow and were dumped in a small area when the ice melted." Dr. Hildebrand says this theory can be tested by determining how long the Bernic Lake and Pinawa meteorites have been on Earth, and by searching for more meteorites in the region near Pinawa. The annual summer Prairie Meteorite Search is led by Dr. Hildebrand of the University of Calgary, Dr. Peter Brown of the University of Western Ontario, and Dr. Martin Beech of Campion College at the University of Regina. The three scientists are members of the Canadian Space Agency's Meteorites and Impacts Advisory Committee (MIAC), Canada's volunteer group charged with the investigation of fireballs and the recovery of meteorites. The Canadian Space Agency is funding the project's field costs for the summer of 2005. For further information: Prairie Meteorite Searcher Tom Weedmark: (403) 852-5613; Dr. Alan Hildebrand, University of Calgary: (403) 220-2291, http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/PMSearch/ ; Nicholas Girard, Media Relations, Canadian Space Agency, (450) 926-4370, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - Monday, July 25, 2005
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