[meteorite-list] New beautiful L3.3 regolith breccia

2005-08-11 Thread Gi-po Meteorites

Hello List,

i'm glad to introduce my new chondrite, NWA 2933, a L3.3 regolith breccia.
It is loadet with a lot of beautiful chondrules, if you like take a look 
here:



http://www.gi-po.de/ebayfolder/list/3.3list.htm


Classification was done by NAU, here are some data of it:

TKW: 511 grams
Pieces: One Stone
Fa25.2 +/_ 15; Cr2O3 in olivine = 0.14 wt % +/- 0.07
Class: L3.3 regolith breccia / S2, W2

It will be in the next bulletin.

Thanks for you interest,

Cheers!
Carsten






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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - August 12, 2005

2005-08-11 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/August12.html  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Found in India

2005-08-11 Thread star-bits
<"The results of our study indicate that it is a rare iron meteorite
having a significant radioactive content of 54 mn (manganese) and 57 co
(cobalt)," said Mr Narendra Bhandari of the BSRI.>

Too bad they don't say what "significant" is.   The half life of 54Mn is 
312.2 days and for 57Co it is 271.8 days.   As a general rule after 7 half 
lives there is very little left.   For 54Mn that is just under 6 years.So 
it is pretty obvious there is none left over from solar system formation.   

What there is most likely comes from cosmic ray exposure, which would be 
pretty much the same as for any other iron meteorite.   There may be more 
radioactivity if there is more of the precursor material, but they don't 
mention any significant differences there.

It may be significant scientifically, but in real world radioactivity 
safety procedures I doubt it is any different than any other iron in you 
collection.   Unfortunately for the average person "significant radioactivity" 
brings visions of glowing rocks and lead gloves.Too bad they don't say what 
"significant" is.   

--
Eric Olson
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http://www.star-bits.com



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[meteorite-list] UCSD Discovery Suggests 'Protosun' Was Shining During Formation Of First Matter In Solar System

2005-08-11 Thread Ron Baalke

http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/science/mcmeteorite.asp

UCSD Discovery Suggests 'Protosun' Was Shining
During Formation Of First Matter In Solar System

By Kim McDonald
University of California, San Diego
August 11, 2005

>From chemical fingerprints preserved in primitive meteorites, scientists
at UCSD have determined that the collapsing gas cloud that eventually
became our sun was glowing brightly during the formation of the first
material in solar system more than 4.5 billion years ago.

Their discovery, detailed in a paper that appears in the August 12 issue
of Science, provides the first conclusive evidence that this "protosun"
played a major role in chemically shaping the solar system by emitting
enough ultraviolet energy to catalyze the formation of organic
compounds, water and other compounds necessary for the evolution of life
on Earth.

Scientists have long argued whether the chemical compounds created in
the early solar system were produced with the help of the energy of the
early sun or were formed by other means.

"The basic question was, Was the sun on or was it off?" says Mark H.
Thiemens, Dean of UCSD's Division of Physical Sciences and chemistry
professor who headed the research team that conducted the study. "There
is nothing in the geological record before 4.55 billion years ago that
could answer this."

Vinai Rai, a postdoctoral fellow working in Thiemens lab, came up with
a solution, developing an extremely sensitive measurement that could
answer the question. He searched for chemical fingerprints of the
high-energy wind that emanated from the protosun and became trapped in
the isotopes, or forms, of sulfide found in four primitive groups of
meteorites, the oldest remnants of the early solar system. Astronomers
believe this wind blew matter from the core of the rotating solar nebula
into its pancake-like accretion disk, the region in which meteorites,
asteroids and planets later formed.

Applying a technique Thiemens developed five years ago to reveal details
about the Earth's early atmosphere from variations in the oxygen and
sulfur isotopes embedded in ancient rocks, the UCSD chemists were able
to infer from sulfides in the meteorites the intensity of the solar wind
and, hence, the intensity of the protosun. They conclude in their paper
that the slight excess of one isotope of sulfur, ³³S, in the meteorites
indicated the presence of "photochemical reactions in the early solar
nebula," meaning that the protosun was shining strongly enough to drive
chemical reactions.

"This measurement tells us for the first time that the sun was on, that
there was enough ultraviolet light to do photochemistry," says Thiemens.
"Knowing that this was the case is a huge help in understanding the
processes that formed compounds in the early solar system."

Astronomers believe the solar nebula began to form about 5 billion years
ago when a cloud of interstellar gas and dust was disturbed, possibly by
the shock wave of a large exploding star, and collapsed under its own
gravity. As the nebula's spinning pancake-like disk grew thinner and
thinner, whirlpools of clumps began to form and grow larger, eventually
forming the planets, moons and asteroids. The protosun, meanwhile,
continued to contract under its own gravity and grew hotter, developing
into a young star. That star, our sun, emanated a hot wind of
electrically charged atoms that blew most of the gas and dust that
remained from the nebula out of the solar system.

Planets, moons and many asteroids have been heated and had their
material reprocessed since the formation of the solar nebula. As a
result, they have had little to offer scientists seeking clues about the
development of the solar nebula into the solar system. However, some
primitive meteorites contain material that has remained unchanged since
the protosun spewed this material from the center of the solar nebula
more than 4.5 billion years ago.

Thiemens says the technique his team used to determine that the protosun
was glowing brightly also can be applied to estimate when and where
various compounds originated in the hot wind spewed out by the protosun.

"That will be the next goal," he says. "We can look mineral by mineral
and perhaps say here's what happened step by step."

The UCSD team's study was financed by a grant from the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration.


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[meteorite-list] Lost City

2005-08-11 Thread bernd . pauli
Susan wrote:

"I'm trying to find out where the Lost City, Chero-
kee Co., Ok fall on Jan 3, 1970 ended up."

=> In the Smithsonian' s National Museum of Natural History

"... it might be nice to get a picture for her."

=> See Martin Horejsi's "Accretion Desk" in the August 2003
   issue of MeteoriteTimes for a color photo! This is the link:

http://www.meteoritetimes.com/Back_Links/2003/August/

A picture of the fireball as well as a b&w picture of the Lost City
meteorite can be seen in O.R. Norton's Cambridge Encyclopedia of
Meteorites, p. 30.


Best wishes,

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Found in India

2005-08-11 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=08125

Meteorite found in Rajasthan
The Navhind Times (India)"
August 11, 2005

PTI Ahmedabad: Elaborate tests conducted on a meteorite fragment
found after it had crashed in Rajasthan recently has revealed it to be a
very rare iron meteorite exuding significant radioactivity. A variety of
tests were conducted by scientists of the Phyical Research Laboratory
and Basic Sciences Research Institute on the meteorite which fell at
Bhuka village in Barmer district of Rajasthan on June 25, this year.

"The results of our study indicate that it is a rare iron meteorite
having a significant radioactive content of 54 mn (manganese) and 57 co
(cobalt)," said Mr Narendra Bhandari of the BSRI.

"It seems to have originated from the asteriodal belt between Mars and
Jupiter and might have been 100 times bigger than the its present weight
of about 2.5 kg," said the scientist adding that tests were still to be
conducted to arrive at the estimated time the meteorite to travel from
the belt to Earth.

The meteorite, which fell in the farm of Mubeen Sindhi with a loud
noise, made a crater of about half-a-metre and is actually an alloy of
iron and nickel, said Mr Bhandari.

"It is the first iron meteorite to fall in Rajasthan among the seven
falls in the past 15 years," he said explaining the rareness of the
cosmic object.

The iron meteorite is the rarest of the three kinds of meteors, the
other two being stony meteors and stony iron meteors, he said.

"Moreover, for the radioactive isotopes of cobalt and manganese to be
found together in a single meteorite is very rare and it is perhaps the
first time they have been found on earth," Mr Bhandari added.

We were able to detect the radioactivity because the meteorite was sent
to us immediately after it fell, he said adding that radioactivity
slowly wanes with the passage of time.

"About 80 per cent of most meteors entering the Earth's atmosphere burn
out. What makes iron meteorite rare on Earth is because unlike stony
meteors they have a tendency to completely burn out," said Mr Bhandari
who is also the president of International Lunar Exploration Working Group.

The meteorite has a thick black crust with a golden or brownish tinge.
The crust also has well developed regmaglypts (thumb marks formed when
the meteorite enters Earth's atmosphere) typical of meteorites.

"The tests conducted on a piece of the meteorite sent to PRL (a large
chunk was also sent to the Geological Survey of India), also found it to
be made of pure iron which is very different from the kind of iron
usually found on Earth which normally exists as an oxide," he said.

The iron and nickel alloy which the meteorite is made of, was formed at
very high temperatures, in "reducing atmosphere" devoid of oxygen or
water at least four-and-a-half billion years ago. The meteorite also has
a special crystalline structure which is indicative of the slow cooling
process it witnessed, Mr bhandari said.

Talking about the meteorite's fall in June this year, he said, "This is
the seventh observed fall in the past 15 years in Rajasthan the other
six meteorite falls being at Didwana (1991), Lohawat (1994), Devri Khera
(1994), Piplia Kalan (1996), Itawa Bhopji (2000) and Bhawad (2002)."

Since only about 126 falls have been observed all over India in the past
two centuries, this frequency of falls (one every two years) in such a
small area of Rajasthan is very unusual. In comparison, no more than 10
falls have been reported from the rest of India in the past 15 years, he
observed.

Certain questions as to whether this observation is just a regional or
temporal statistical fluctuation or whether the Earth is going through
an unusually dense swarm of interplanetary bodies continues to remain
unanswered, Mr Bhandari added.

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[meteorite-list] New India Fall - rare iron

2005-08-11 Thread McCartney Taylor
Anyone hear about this new India fall in June?  BTW - all Indian 
meteorites are Indian Geologic Survey property, so not likely we'll see 
any of this.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=08125

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[meteorite-list] 1.5g taddaweeinie diogenite for sale

2005-08-11 Thread harlan trammell
have i 1.5g taddaweenie diogenite on ebay. this is a non-paying bidder relist: any price takes it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6552851790
i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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[meteorite-list] NASA's Mars Orbiter Launch Delayed 24 Hours

2005-08-11 Thread Ron Baalke


Dolores Beasley
Headquarters, Washington   August 11, 2005
(Phone: 202/358-1753)

George H. Diller
Kennedy Space, Fla.
(Phone: 321/867-2468)

MEDIA ADVISORY: M05-136

NASA'S MARS ORBITER LAUNCH DELAYED 24 HOURS

he launch of NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) has 
been postponed. The new launch window is 7:43 to 9:43 a.m. 
EDT, Friday, August 12.

The delay was called after engineers saw an anomalous 
reading in the hydrogen propellant loading system on the 
Atlas V. There was insufficient time in the launch window 
to fully investigate the reading. The Atlas V vehicle is 
being de-tanked. The rocket will remain on the launch pad, 
and the MRO spacecraft is secured.

Tomorrow's weather forecast calls for a chance for isolated 
coastal showers. There is a 20 percent probability of not 
meeting the launch weather criteria.

On launch day, August 12, the KSC News Center will open at 
4:30 a.m. EDT. Foreign national news media should meet at 
Gate 1 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 5 a.m. to be 
escorted to the KSC Press Site. NASA TV live coverage of 
the launch begins at 5:15 a.m. EDT.

For information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter on the 
Web, visit

http://www.nasa.gov/mro

For information about NASA and agency programs on the Web, 
visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html

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[meteorite-list] Perseids Tonight

2005-08-11 Thread Notkin

Dear Listees:

A reminder for skywatchers and night owls that the annual Perseids 
meteor shower is expected to peak late tonight/early tomorrow morning.


From UtahSkies.org:

Time for the annual Perseid Meteor Shower. The event has been going on 
for a couple of weeks already as skywatchers have seen a dramatic rise 
in meteor counts. Well, you ain't seen nothing yet. The Perseid's peak 
very early on Friday morning (8/12). Highest counts are expected 
between midnight and first light (5am). If you're under dark, clear 
skies, you could expect to see upwards of 100 meteors per hour for a 
while.


More info: 
http://www.utahskies.org/solarsystem/meteors/perseids/index.html



We've been experiencing heavy rain and storms for several days in 
Tucson. Hoping for clear skies tonight.



Regards to all,

Geoff N.

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[meteorite-list] re: Goran Lindfors "Moon meteorites"

2005-08-11 Thread Marco Langbroek


Since about a year or so I regularly get his e-mails too; well, until I created 
a filter in my Thunderbird: so while I still 'get' them they automatically go 
into my trash-bin now.


Before creating the filter I sent him an e-mail asking him not to send me this 
stuff as I was not interested, and pointing out that his stones were not 
meteorites to me. In answer, he sent me an agitated mail (in very bad English) 
about me being 'jealous'. From my own experience with Mr. Lindfors and that 
related by others on this list, I think someone forgot to lock a door in a 
Swedish mental asylum.


- Marco

 --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


>> This guy is an idiot, he sends nasty emails if you
>> request documentation on
>> his crap. He is trying to pawn off silica slag as
>> moon rocks.
>> I send him 10 and 20 megs of bulk photos every time
>> he spams me.
>> Mike Farmer

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Dutch Meteor Society (DMS)

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[meteorite-list] OT Meteorite Blade for sale

2005-08-11 Thread Meteoryt.net
Hello
I have for sale 
CBN  Meteorite Blade 10" / 0.015" (few times used only) 
Pro Slicer 6" / 0.006"

This 2 blades have value of 100$
Im asking 65$ for both



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http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
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[meteorite-list] WANT AD: information about the Lost City, Ok fall

2005-08-11 Thread batkol
I'm trying to find out where the Lost City, Cherokee Co., Ok fall on Jan 3, 
1970 ended up.  A friend of mine was at a drive-in when it streaked behind 
the screen and i thought it might be nice to get a picture [or better yet a 
piece but i don't think that will happen] for her.  please contact me off 
list if you can help me out.  thanks.  take care
susan 


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Re: [meteorite-list] goran Lindfors lunar stuff

2005-08-11 Thread dean bessey
I get photos of what looks like some sort of sandstone
from that guy regularly also. Usually a meg or more of
photos at a time - which since I use yahoo and hotmail
for email was a royal pain before they gave everybody
hundreds of megs of space last year.
It is so obvious even from a photo that these are not
meteorites that I suspect that this guy is running
some sort of criminal activity like money laundering
or something. (Just a guess as I have no idea what he
is up to but realistically anybody trying to sell
something as a meteorite wouldent use something so
obviously not a meteorite as what he is using.
Therfore I can only assume that he is running some
sort of non meteoritic scam directed at non meteorite
people using fake meteorites). 
I once sent him a very polite email saying
"Congratulations on finding a lunar but you sent me
the wrong photos as the photos you sent were
obvioously not of meteorites".
I get a nasty email back saying that I am not a
serious meteorite buyer and dont know what I am
talking about.
There is really nothing you can do with this guy other
than block his email address. He is not a member of
the IMCA or have any respectibility anywhere in the
meteorite world so unless you are willing to take him
to court your only option is ignore him. 






--- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> This guy is an idiot, he sends nasty emails if you
> request documentation on 
> his crap. He is trying to pawn off silica slag as
> moon rocks.
> I send him 10 and 20 megs of bulk photos every time
> he spams me.
> Mike Farmer
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "metlist" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:14 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] goran Lindfors lunar stuff
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> > I have been getting a few mails from someone
> called Goran Lindfors re 
> > lunar
> > material - has anyone any additional info on this
> material?
> > Am I the only one getting the mails and pics?
> >
> > much appreciated!
> >
> > dave
> > IMCA #0092
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