[meteorite-list] test - please delete
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Right, every meteorite arrive to me for sale I write immediatly the card with Word, in few minutes you have ready the cardsif not mistake an IMCA member should know these things, Steve Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: > Steve, come on now, if you can use a computer, you > can use Microsoft Word or Works and create a > business card, if you can do that, it is simple to > then make a specimen card. I print them by the > thousands, it takes 5 minutes to make a new card > once you save a template. > Mike > -- Original message M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Steve, come on now, if you can use a computer, you can use Microsoft Word or Works and create a business card, if you can do that, it is simple to then make a specimen card. I print them by the thousands, it takes 5 minutes to make a new card once you save a template. Mike -- Original message -- From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you > buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people > who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado > with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have > sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to > send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to > me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be > nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone > else who has had this problem? > > > steve arnold, chicago > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl.yahoo.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
From a sellers stand point, I put together a bill of sale/shipping formcards are a niceity to me but every jerk in the country starts whining about how he wants his ideal card custom made to fit his peticular needs and to match his cards already in his collection so I gave up a long time ago trying to please buyers and they get the complete details on the shipping order and they can make a card themselves on their own time...too many whiney ebay winners... Dave F. just my opinion. Steve Arnold, Chicago!! wrote: Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone else who has had this problem? steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] chondrule questions
Hello everyone, I recently cut a little NWA and am interested in any opinions on some things I found in it. This is my first attempt at taking pictures through my rather inexpensive microscope but hopefully you'll get the idea. Does this look like one of those bleached chondrules that Jeff Kuyken has mentioned? http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/meteorite/e973c3f2.jpg Is this some sort or chondrule congolmeration? I seem to see a barred section enclosed by another type? http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/meteorite/a3b337c2.jpg This chondrule doesn't have much definition except for a slight "armor" but looks like it has some sort of metallic inclusion. Is that what it looks like to anyone else? How would this form? http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/meteorite/01f7d48c.jpg Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks and Regards, Phil __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Steve, in November I bought four slices from you, three WITHOUT any specimen card only one with a reference card from BA-Meteorites. I personally think it would be fine to know the history of a piece, if it´s still an original slice, or if it had been crushed to pieces by someone, selling cracks without reference just a thought Stefan Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone else who has had this problem? steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Good topic, Steve, Specimen Cards are an interesting phenomenon. As a dealer, I always make cards for stock I purchase and resell and never pass on the card of the seller from whom I made the purchase. However, when selling a collection for a collector or the like, I include any and all cards but do not make a card of my own. This makes sense to me, though others may feel differently. Of course, if I purchase a very old specimen with a museum card or other historically significant paraphernalia, I do include that, as I know many collectors consider these cards and such nearly as important as the specimen, itself. When I purchase a single specimen (as a collector) unless I know the dealer is reselling a collection, I always resent them not providing a card. This is not uncommon, however, and some of the "best" dealers do not provide cards. Those are my observations. Best wishes, Michael on 1/7/06 12:01 PM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!! at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you > buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people > who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado > with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have > sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to > send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to > me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be > nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone > else who has had this problem? > > >steve arnold, chicago > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl.yahoo.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- The thing that sometimes has me hazy is whether it is them or I that's crazy. Albert Einstein -- "He is not a lover who does not love forever." - Euripides (485-406BC) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Year Quiz - the solution
Hope we will get this sort of "meteorite related Quiz" frequently!!! I think understanding terrestrial rocks and learn how to destinguish between them and meteorites, is a enrichment for everyone, especially if they´re so similar (in composition etc.) to meteorites. Ingo --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > Von: "Christian Anger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: > Betreff: [meteorite-list] New Year Quiz - the solution > Datum: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:30:18 +0100 > > Hi all, > > it is picritic olivine-basalt found in Margi, Troodos on the isle Zyprus. > > pictures number 01 and 03 show the rough side, pictures 02 and 04 show cut > and polished face. > > Yes, it may be a good Pallasitewrong, looking like the Al Mahbas > Pallasite. > > > the nearest guess: > > Fukang - Andi Gren > > oh... no... THAT was the funniest guess (I laughed a lot because Andi only > wrote this one word in his reply). > > > So here the nearest guesses: > > porphyric (alkali)olivinebasalt or a olivinecumulate - Ingo Herkstroeter > > peridotite. I cant see from the picture if it's lherzolite or harzburgite > (olivine with clino or > orthopyroxene) but it realy looks like an olivine bomb - Andrei Razvan > > looks similuar to some of my olivine basalts, periodotite _ Dave Freeman > > volcanic olivine bomb - Ken Regelman > > material its similar to the vulcanic bombs - Matteo Chinellato > > Xenoliths imbedded in an igneous rock (perodite) - Adam Hupe > > Thanks for taking part on the quiz. > > This was just for fun and I hope nobody feels annoyed. > I thought it was time for a little break in the Pallasite discussion. > > Cheers, > > Christian > > I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc > website: www.austromet.com > > > Ing. Christian Anger > Korngasse 6 > 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg > AUSTRIA > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Hi Steve and List, My $0.02. I appreciate the sellers that provide specimen cards and I have them made them up for myself. Steve... You can't force the issue and it doesn't do any good to get "pissed off". You state that you too have sold without providing specimen cards. OK, you're part of your own declared problem. Lead by example and provide specimen cards for ALL your transactions. When buying or trading, ask the other dealer/seller to provide a card. If they won't, it's your decision then to continue with the purchase or trade. Again, my $0.02. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards > Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you > buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people > who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado > with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have > sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to > send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to > me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be > nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone > else who has had this problem? > > > steve arnold, chicago > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl.yahoo.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/2006 > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Hi Steve and List, My $0.02. I appreciate the sellers that provide specimen cards and I have them made them up for myself. Steve... You can't force the issue and it doesn't do any good to get "pissed off". You state that you too have sold without providing specimen cards. OK, you're part of your own declared problem. Lead by example and provide specimen cards for ALL your transactions. When buying or trading, ask the other dealer/seller to provide a card. If they won't, it's your decision then to continue with the purchase or trade. Again, my $0.02. Regards, Dave - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards > Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you > buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people > who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado > with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have > sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to > send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to > me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be > nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone > else who has had this problem? > > > steve arnold, chicago > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl.yahoo.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/2006 > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Hi, a few times, I have had several specimens turn up on the same day, most with cards a few without, without can mean I have to do a search of my purchases over the last couple of months looking for the seller. The mystery meteorite search. I believe a meteorite should be shipped with name card and receipt, not that hard is it? It could be just an overload of orders need sending quick smart, to clear the decks. Always grateful to receive though, even if no card with specimen. Kevin. Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone else who has had this problem? steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Mine did not come from John or Marvin. It was prepared by Marlin Cilz. Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/7/2006 10:38:19 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so simple as well. We all know that some Brahin is crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta. This comes from the fact that people have been touting how nice Fukang is (and I agree, it is a beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet the fact that I know some people who bought pieces last year from Kilgore, that it is all rusting. --- I have to agree with Matt. I don't believe Fukang is a Horrible Ruster. I have had 3 very pretty slices since September and they are fine. I didn't get mine from Marvin Kilgore but from John Birdsell. Does that make a difference? I don't know, since I don't know if John prepared these slices or if Marvin is the one cutting and preparing all the Fukang. John? M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc -- <><><><><> Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone else who has had this problem? steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
In a message dated 1/7/2006 10:38:19 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so simple as well. We all know that some Brahin is crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta. This comes from the fact that people have been touting how nice Fukang is (and I agree, it is a beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet the fact that I know some people who bought pieces last year from Kilgore, that it is all rusting. --- I have to agree with Matt. I don't believe Fukang is a Horrible Ruster. I have had 3 very pretty slices since September and they are fine. I didn't get mine from Marvin Kilgore but from John Birdsell. Does that make a difference? I don't know, since I don't know if John prepared these slices or if Marvin is the one cutting and preparing all the Fukang. John? M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes Magazine for January is now up!
Happy New Year Everyone! MeteoriteTimes Magazine for January is now up. http://www.meteoritetimes.com/ We're looking forward to seeing everyone in Tucson soon! Happy reading everyone! Paul and Jim ** Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. http://www.meteorite.com MeteoriteTimes.com http://www.MeteoriteTimes.com PO Box 7000-455, Redondo Beach, CA 90277 USA *** __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
For me the unique method is I buy a slice of Fukang and I see, with the humidity here, if born rusty or notfor the moment only Esquel, Imilac, Seymchan, Glorieta - but not slice - and Marjalathi have pass the test...Brenham destroyed, brahin the same, Admire a ruin, Ahumada the same, krasnojarsk few traces Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: > Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so > simple as well. We all know that some Brahin is > crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have > never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta. > > This comes from the fact that people have been > touting how nice Fukang is (and I agree, it is a > beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet > the fact that I know some people who bought pieces > last year from Kilgore, that it is all rusting. Now > when we try to discuss that fact, several people > have been emailing and calling me to complain that I > should not say that if I dont have any. I find that > terrible, it seems that people want to sell it > knowing full well that the meteorite they are > charging $20 or $25 gram for might be a serious > problem ruster. > Now, people who sell Brahin or Brenham know it may > rust, this the very low price for that danger built > into the cheap price. But Fukang commands an Imilac > or Esquel piece, neither of which are problem > meteorites. I find that to be a risk to the > customers/collectors that I am here to serve. I will > sell you a Brahin, but you know beforehand that it > could rust to nothing. It seems that most dealers > are trying to avoid that fact with the > super-expensive Fukang. > This is my point. > Mike > -- Original message > -- > From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Agreed Mike, you do take your chances on buying > ANY meteorite. It aint > > like buying coins. > > All I was trying to get at is you can't make > blanket statements that > > this one doesn't rust, but that one does. It > depends on where the piece > > came from and the preparation. I've spent 20-25/g > on Imilac to have it > > rust in 6 mos because it wasn't prepared > correctly. > > Matt > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money > and you takes your chances"? > > Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, > so paying $1 or $2 gram and > > losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on > Fukang and not having a clue > > where your piece came from. How is a buyer going > to know if it came from the > > center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from > the crust/rust surface? They > > wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts > into nothing, worth nothing. > > >Mike > > > -- Original message > -- > > >From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > >>Or on the other hand, it can be completely > stable. I have had 4 slices > > >>now for a few months that show no signs of > rusting whatsoever. These > > >>were taken from an external chunk on the top of > the mass. So just like > > >>Brenham, it depends where the piece came from > and how it was finished. > > >> > > >>I have an Imilac slice right now that was > rusting until I refinished it > > >>and stabilized it (purchased from a very well > known dealer I may add). > > >>So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't > be in our oxidizing > > >>environment. > > >> > > >>Matt Morgan > > >> > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable > meteorite not worth buying and > > >>> > > >>> > > >>spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it > melting into a pile of nearly > > >>worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, > Seymchan, or Imilac any day, > > >>with no risk involved. > > >> > > >> > > >>>Mike Farmer > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>-- Original message > -- > > >>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Hello Mike > > Fukang has beautiful crystals of > olivine and it looked very nice a > > few months ago . > > Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . > Maybe the interior is better but > > in Minnesota . > > Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year > here . > > If I were to get a piece again I would keep it > in a vacum sealed container > > . > > May your day do well Ken Regelman > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > > Cc: > > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang > specimen is very nice, and then you > > >say you are watching it rust everywhere. > Those tw
Re: [meteorite-list] Call for Photos
Hi all, I am in the process of putting together a METEORITE FRIENDS web page. Now, the fact is, there are only about 3 meteorite collectors or dealers I have ever encountered I don't consider a friend. I have several collector friends that have never bought from me, so, it doesn't mean "customer" - and I don't care whether you are the world's largest dealer or only sold one meteorite on eBay once upon a time. One of the purposes of this METEORITE FRIENDS page is to provide a "face with the name" for people in the meteorite community, so, if you don't go to Tucson, or, when you did/do you miss/ed half the people you have heard of, etc, you can actually "look them up" and see their handsome (or in a few cases, beautiful) mug. I was going to just make it random, but then it occurred to me that eventually it would probably be used as a reference, so, I will probably put it in alphabetical order - either by first name or last - probably first, so as to make things easier. In any event, the point is, I would really like it if you ALL would email me a JPG as an attachment (not some other method - people seam to always be able to find some way of sending me photos that doesn't work. Just attach a JPG - or, much better, SEVERAL jpgs of yourself - or, in the case of couples - of both of you to allow me to choose the one I deem most flattering and realistic. It would be fun to do a meteorite Jib-Jab thingy, but I ain't that gifted - nor do I have the time. However, I do think it would be fun to have a huge collection of all our faces to go with our names. Please RSVP to me directly. All you non-Americans are VERY MUCH invited to participate - I wanna see at least 3 Serges up there (ya, I know my spelling sucks - sorry) Of course, if you, for some ego trip or super sleuth motivation do not want anyone to know what you look like, to bad, you don't get to play. Please do not forget to mention your first and last name. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1) I am spelling impaired and 2) because of that same disability, I forget names like you wouldn't believe (most people do not believe I once forgot my own name - albeit very briefly). So, don't hesitate, pull out all them JPGs of yourself and send 'm in to Uncle Mikie and before the next ice age I will get a page up any and all can enjoy. RSVP Thanks, Michael -- The thing that sometimes has me hazy is whether it is them or I that's crazy. Albert Einstein -- "He is not a lover who does not love forever." - Euripides (485-406BC) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Point taken. Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so simple as well. We all know that some Brahin is crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta. This comes from the fact that people have been touting how nice Fukang is (and I agree, it is a beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet the fact that I know some people who bought pieces last year from Kilgore, that it is all rusting. Now when we try to discuss that fact, several people have been emailing and calling me to complain that I should not say that if I dont have any. I find that terrible, it seems that people want to sell it knowing full well that the meteorite they are charging $20 or $25 gram for might be a serious problem ruster. Now, people who sell Brahin or Brenham know it may rust, this the very low price for that danger built into the cheap price. But Fukang commands an Imilac or Esquel piece, neither of which are problem meteorites. I find that to be a risk to the customers/collectors that I am here to serve. I will sell you a Brahin, but you know beforehand that it could rust to nothing. It seems that most dealers are trying to avoid that fact with the super-expensive Fukang. This is my point. Mike -- Original message -- From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Agreed Mike, you do take your chances on buying ANY meteorite. It aint like buying coins. All I was trying to get at is you can't make blanket statements that this one doesn't rust, but that one does. It depends on where the piece came from and the preparation. I've spent 20-25/g on Imilac to have it rust in 6 mos because it wasn't prepared correctly. Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money and you takes your chances"? Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram and losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a clue where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? They wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing. Mike -- Original message -- From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished. I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing environment. Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying and spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of nearly worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, with no risk involved. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Mike Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a few months ago . Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better but in Minnesota . Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here . If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container . May your day do well Ken Regelman - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing specimens . Ken Regelman Astronomical Research Network http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mai
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so simple as well. We all know that some Brahin is crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta. This comes from the fact that people have been touting how nice Fukang is (and I agree, it is a beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet the fact that I know some people who bought pieces last year from Kilgore, that it is all rusting. Now when we try to discuss that fact, several people have been emailing and calling me to complain that I should not say that if I dont have any. I find that terrible, it seems that people want to sell it knowing full well that the meteorite they are charging $20 or $25 gram for might be a serious problem ruster. Now, people who sell Brahin or Brenham know it may rust, this the very low price for that danger built into the cheap price. But Fukang commands an Imilac or Esquel piece, neither of which are problem meteorites. I find that to be a risk to the customers/collectors that I am here to serve. I will sell you a Brahin, but you know beforehand that it could rust to nothing. It seems that most dealers are trying to avoid that fact with the super-expensive Fukang. This is my point. Mike -- Original message -- From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Agreed Mike, you do take your chances on buying ANY meteorite. It aint > like buying coins. > All I was trying to get at is you can't make blanket statements that > this one doesn't rust, but that one does. It depends on where the piece > came from and the preparation. I've spent 20-25/g on Imilac to have it > rust in 6 mos because it wasn't prepared correctly. > Matt > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money and you takes your > >chances"? > Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram > and > losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a > clue > where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the > center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? > They > wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing. > >Mike > > -- Original message -- > >From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >>Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices > >>now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These > >>were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like > >>Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished. > >> > >>I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it > >>and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). > >>So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing > >>environment. > >> > >>Matt Morgan > >> > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying > >>>and > >>> > >>> > >>spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of > >>nearly > >>worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any > >>day, > >>with no risk involved. > >> > >> > >>>Mike Farmer > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>-- Original message -- > >>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hello Mike > Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a > few months ago . > Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better > but > in Minnesota . > Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here . > If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed > container > . > May your day do well Ken Regelman > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite > > > > > > > >Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then > >you > >say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not > >compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. > >Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. > >Mike Farmer > >-- Original message -- > >From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > >>The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . > >>I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . > >>One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I > >>have been watchin
[meteorite-list] New Year Quiz - the solution
Hi all, it is picritic olivine-basalt found in Margi, Troodos on the isle Zyprus. pictures number 01 and 03 show the rough side, pictures 02 and 04 show cut and polished face. Yes, it may be a good Pallasitewrong, looking like the Al Mahbas Pallasite. the nearest guess: Fukang - Andi Gren oh... no... THAT was the funniest guess (I laughed a lot because Andi only wrote this one word in his reply). So here the nearest guesses: porphyric (alkali)olivinebasalt or a olivinecumulate - Ingo Herkstroeter peridotite. I cant see from the picture if it's lherzolite or harzburgite (olivine with clino or orthopyroxene) but it realy looks like an olivine bomb - Andrei Razvan looks similuar to some of my olivine basalts, periodotite _ Dave Freeman volcanic olivine bomb - Ken Regelman material its similar to the vulcanic bombs - Matteo Chinellato Xenoliths imbedded in an igneous rock (perodite) - Adam Hupe Thanks for taking part on the quiz. This was just for fun and I hope nobody feels annoyed. I thought it was time for a little break in the Pallasite discussion. Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Agreed Mike, you do take your chances on buying ANY meteorite. It aint like buying coins. All I was trying to get at is you can't make blanket statements that this one doesn't rust, but that one does. It depends on where the piece came from and the preparation. I've spent 20-25/g on Imilac to have it rust in 6 mos because it wasn't prepared correctly. Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money and you takes your chances"? Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram and losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a clue where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? They wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing. Mike -- Original message -- From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished. I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing environment. Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying and spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of nearly worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, with no risk involved. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Mike Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a few months ago . Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better but in Minnesota . Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here . If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container . May your day do well Ken Regelman - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing specimens . Ken Regelman Astronomical Research Network http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- <><><><><> Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- <><><><><> Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Doom From The Sky
Hi List, quite a few years ago now, the U.S. suspected and/or accused South Afica of testing nuclear weapons in it's vicinity. To the Sth East of South Africa in the Indian Ocean. I believe the Vela satellites had nothing to do with this, as they detected gamma ray bursts. This event produced shock waves detectable at a great distance, and some merchant vessels in the area also reported a disturbance. It was in the megaton range. It was later proved to meteoric in origin. Kevin I knew about the Tunguska event but what happened in the Atlantic in the 1930s? Göran Ron Baalke wrote: http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060104/NEWS/601040303/1039 Doom from the sky Rutland Herald (Vermont) January 4, 2006 snipp... Smaller strikes have been recorded frequently. One descended with a fiery streak into the Atlantic in the 1930s. In the early 1900s one hit an uninhabited spot in Siberia, leveling forests for miles around. There's a big crater in Arizona that is the record of a hit in that spot in ancient times. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money and you takes your chances"? Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram and losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a clue where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? They wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing. Mike -- Original message -- From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices > now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These > were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like > Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished. > > I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it > and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). > So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing > environment. > > Matt Morgan > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying > >and > spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of > nearly > worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, > with no risk involved. > >Mike Farmer > > > > > > > > > > -- Original message -- > >From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >>Hello Mike > >>Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a > >>few months ago . > >>Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better > >>but > >>in Minnesota . > >>Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here . > >> If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container > >>. > >>May your day do well Ken Regelman > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > >> > >>Cc: > >>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM > >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you > >>>say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not > >>>compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. > >>>Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. > >>>Mike Farmer > >>>-- Original message -- > >>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" > >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> > The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . > I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . > One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I > have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. > It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original > owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing > specimens . > Ken Regelman > Astronomical Research Network > http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > >__ > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > <><><><><> > Matt Morgan > Mile High Meteorites > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > http://www.mrmeteorite.com > P.O. Box 151293 > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA > eBay user id: mhmeteorites > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Year Quiz - I want more answers
The Fungi from Yuggoth!! Seriously, whatever-it-is is beautiful, although I suspect it is terrestrial. I wonder what it would look like if it were slabbed up rather than presented in fragments. Tracy Latimer From: David Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Year Quiz - I want more answers Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:59:22 -0500 Lime jello phenocrysts within a black cherry jello groundmass? David --- Hi all, I only got 9 answers, that's not enough. Everybody sleeping on the list ? so once again : what is it ? http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz01.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz02.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz03.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz04.jpg Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Year Quiz - I want more answers
Lime jello phenocrysts within a black cherry jello groundmass? David --- Hi all, I only got 9 answers, that's not enough. Everybody sleeping on the list ? so once again : what is it ? http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz01.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz02.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz03.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz04.jpg Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Nickel test
G'day List, just a tad more of something to add to the data pot. Foundries often cast mining machinery parts using an alloy known at the foundry as NiHard. I worked at a foundry for a while. NiHard can be made from cast iron with a small amount of new nickel in the form of ingot thrown into the pot and melted, or old NiHard and cast Iron, with less new nickel added. It is very hard and also brittle. Ni content % varies between 0.5% to 10% And for those out there that do still work in a foundry, don't let the fairies get ya..!!! Don't throw cold lumps of metal into a pot contain molten material, it will explode, the molten material can be thrown up to 30 metres from a small 1 or 2 man pour. 20-60kg of material. And you can also make you own nickel test kit if you obtain a chemical known as DMG or Di-MethylGlyoxime. Make a solution of this DMG in metho (Oz) or methylated spirits (de- natured alcohol U.S.). about 5% strength. Also obtain a bottle of ammonia solution from your hardware store or supermarket. Use a cotton bud and moisten it with the DMG solution, 2 drops, then 2 drops of the ammonia solution, then rub the suspect sample with the cotton bud. If it turns pink, it indicates the presence of Nickel. DMG = CH3.C(:NOH).C(:NOH).CH3 Ajax chemicals and BDH are supposed to be suppliers of DMG, but after several emails, they have failed to reply. They might still be on holidays, but I have tried this several times over a few months. BDH Product Code Description Pack Size 100983G Dimethylglyoxime 'AnalaR' 100G 130463C Dimethylglyoxime GPR 100G BDH Australian Distributor MERCK PTY LTD A.B.N. 25 005 064 791 207 Colchester Road Kilsyth Victoria 3137 TEL:+ 03 9728 5855 Fax:+ 03 9728 7611 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.merck.com.au Toll free phone (Australia-wide): Enquiries and Orders: 1800 335 571 (general enquiries):[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical: 1800 032 900 Ajax DMG 25 grams Product Code 197-25G Ajax DMG 10 grams Product Code 197-10G Also if native Iron occurs on Earth why not in the greater cosmos, it is just that we have not yet found any. That doesn't mean it does not exist, only that we have not yet found any. It also seems that using nickel to confirm or dispell something as being meteoric in origin, might leave some very interesting specimens in a rubbish heap as failing the meteorite test, when in fact they are and rare at that. One day it will happen and a great rush will be on re-testing old rubbish, looking for a new treasure, nickle-less meteorites. But I am in the same boat as everyone else, I know of no meteoric Iron with no nickel. Have I looked, no, I can only say like most of us, if it has nickel in it, good chance for it being a meteorite. How could we test for a meteorite with NO nickel Why does Shirokovsky fail as being meteoric in origin Is it a natural deposit? Is their no nickel in it? Cheers all, Kevin, VK3UKF. Thanks to everybody for these clear and detailed information. I use a nickel test kit called "Allertest Ni Nickel Allergy Kit" (from www.allerderm.com) and never got positive results. I tested many suspected iron meteorites and always got negative results. It showed positive results on a common iron meteorite I tested. Maybe it's a good test kit ? Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Year Quiz - I want more answers
Olivine crystals in a dark matrix :) just a thought... Stefan Hi all, I only got 9 answers, that's not enough. Everybody sleeping on the list ? so once again : what is it ? http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz01.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz02.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz03.jpg http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz04.jpg Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished. I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing environment. Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying and spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of nearly worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, with no risk involved. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Mike Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a few months ago . Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better but in Minnesota . Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here . If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container . May your day do well Ken Regelman - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing specimens . Ken Regelman Astronomical Research Network http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- <><><><><> Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very cool Impact Crater on Mars
Thanks Pete, it's really amazing! Fred B - Original Message - From: "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:34 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Very cool Impact Crater on Mars > Amazing hi-res pictures at the source site: > > http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMZLM8A9HE_0.html > > http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMZLM8A9HE_0.html > > News > > 'Butterfly' impact crater in Hesperia Planum > > > > Colour view of 'butterfly'-shaped crater at Hesperia Planum > > 4 January 2006 > These images, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board > ESA's Mars Express spacecraft, show a large elliptical impact crater in the > Hesperia Planum region of Mars. > > > Map showing 'butterfly' crater in context > The HRSC obtained these images during orbit 368 with a ground resolution of > approximately 16.7 metres per pixel. The scenes show the region of Hesperia > Planum, at approximately 35.3° South and 118.7° East. > A large elliptical impact crater is visible within the scene, measuring > approximately 24.4 km long, 11.2 km wide and reaching a maximum depth of > approximately 650 metres below the surrounding plains. > > > Black and white nadir view of Hesperia Planum > Ejecta from this impact can be seen extending away from the crater, > including two prominent lobes of material north-west and south-east of the > crater. > > The large circular feature, partly cut off by the border of the image, has a > diameter of roughly 45 km. > > This appears to be an impact crater that was subsequently resurfaced by lava > flows, preserving the outline of the underlying crater. The curving features > visible in the north of the image, known as 'wrinkle ridges', are caused by > compressional tectonics. > > > Close-up perspective view of 'butterfly' crater - looking north > While the majority of impact craters are relatively circular, the elliptical > shape of this impact crater suggests a very low impact angle (less than 10 > degrees). > > The long axis of the impact crater is viewed as the impacting direction of > the projectile. Similar elliptical craters are observed elsewhere on Mars, > as well as on our Moon. > > The colour scenes have been derived from the three HRSC-colour channels and > the nadir channel. The perspective views have been calculated from the > digital terrain model derived from the stereo channels. > > 3D anaglyph view of Hesperia Planum > The 3D anaglyph image was calculated from the nadir and one stereo channel. > Image resolution has been decreased for use on the internet. > > For more information on Mars Express HRSC images, you might like to read our > updated 'Frequently Asked Questions'. > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Typos in Met.Bull. 87, p. A230
Dear Bernd, Jeff and All, I had seen those mistakes right after the publication of the corresponding Meteoritical Bulletin and I remember that Bertrand Devouard, who did the classification, had informed the Nom Com about it... Actually, here are the exact dates of find for the tanezrouft meteorites from Tnz 054 to Tnz 061 that were found in May 2002 and than Tnz 062 to Tnz 071 that were found in November 2002: (you can also see them on our web site at: http://meteoriteshow.free.fr/meteoriteshow%20angl/pages%20navigation/gallery-navbanner-contact.html and then click on the meteorite name in order to reach all details about it) Tanezrouft 54: found on May 15, 2002 Tanezrouft 55: found on May 16, 2002 Tanezrouft 56: found on May 16, 2002 Tanezrouft 57: found on May 16, 2002 Tanezrouft 58: found on May 17, 2002 Tanezrouft 59: found on May 18, 2002 Tanezrouft 60: found on May 19, 2002 Tanezrouft 61: found on May 19, 2002 Tanezrouft 62: found on November 24, 2002 Tanezrouft 63: found on November 28, 2002 Tanezrouft 64: found on November 25, 2002 Tanezrouft 65: found on November 27, 2002 Tanezrouft 66: found on November 23, 2002 Tanezrouft 67: found on November 27, 2002 Tanezrouft 68: found on November 27, 2002 Tanezrouft 69: found on November 27, 2002 Tanezrouft 70: found on November 26, 2002 Tanezrouft 71: found on November 27, 2002 Kind regards to All! Frederic Beroud http://www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Typos in Met.Bull. 87, p. A230 Hello Jeff Grossman, Bonsoir Fred Béroud, Hello List, There are some typos regarding the date of the following meteorites: Tanezrouft 57 - Tanezrouft 59 - Tanezrouft 60 - Tanezrouft 61 Both the on-line version and the entries in the supplement say these meteorites were found 15/16/02 - 15/18/02 - 15/19/02. As Tanezrouft 56 was found 05/16/02, we can assume that the others were also found in May of that year. Right? Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Doom From The Sky
I knew about the Tunguska event but what happened in the Atlantic in the 1930s? Göran Ron Baalke wrote: http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060104/NEWS/601040303/1039 Doom from the sky Rutland Herald (Vermont) January 4, 2006 snipp... Smaller strikes have been recorded frequently. One descended with a fiery streak into the Atlantic in the 1930s. In the early 1900s one hit an uninhabited spot in Siberia, leveling forests for miles around. There's a big crater in Arizona that is the record of a hit in that spot in ancient times. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: what country is the hardest to get meteorites from?
Italy its the same, onlt 2-3 meteorites its available...Alfianello its normaly in the marketbut ask a piece of Siena or Valdinizza or Borgo S.Donnino or Renazzo.nothing. Matteo --- Marco Langbroek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > Or a Dutch (4 meteorites). There are a few pieces > around of the market, but rare > and for (for me) unaffordable prices (indication: > $600/gram for the Glanerbrug LL5). > > But indeed, the Danish beat us all given their > meteorite laws. Although there is > some Cape York around on the market, and that is > sort of a Danish one too. > > - Marco > > --- > Or a danish ;-) > > Best > Lars > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > På vegne af Christian > Anger > Sendt: 6. januar 2006 19:39 > Til: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Emne: [meteorite-list] RE: what country is the > hardest to getmeteoritesfrom? > > Try to get an Austrian Meteorite ! That's a > challenge ! > > Cheers, > > Christian > > > - > Dr Marco Langbroek > Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > private website > http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek > DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org > - > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] looking for OUR STONE PELTED PLANET
Good morning list.I know a bunch of you have OUR STONE PELTED PLANET.I am looking for a nice copy to add to small ,but growing meteorite book collection.I saw on amazon.com 3 forsale,as low as $189 up to $400.If anyone can offer up one to me for reasonable price I will buy it.But please bring it with you to tucson.I will pay you cash for it.Please contact me off list. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Von Steinen, die vom Himmel fallen (About Stones, that fall from the Sky)
Hi all, especially the German, Swiss and Austrian list members which are not member of the German Meteorite_list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The NHM Vienna starts the new year again with activities in meteoritics. Already in January is the first evening lecture. "Von Steinen, die vom Himmel fallen" (About Stones, that fall from the Sky) see further info at http://www.austromet.com/index2.html and http://www.austromet.com/NHMVienna/NHM_Vienna_18012006.jpg Dr. Köberl will be well known especially from Impactite- und Tektite-Collectors. Who is able to come - join it. all the best Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: what country is the hardest to get meteorites from?
Or a Dutch (4 meteorites). There are a few pieces around of the market, but rare and for (for me) unaffordable prices (indication: $600/gram for the Glanerbrug LL5). But indeed, the Danish beat us all given their meteorite laws. Although there is some Cape York around on the market, and that is sort of a Danish one too. - Marco --- Or a danish ;-) Best Lars -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Christian Anger Sendt: 6. januar 2006 19:39 Til: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Emne: [meteorite-list] RE: what country is the hardest to getmeteoritesfrom? Try to get an Austrian Meteorite ! That's a challenge ! Cheers, Christian - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
