[meteorite-list] New Interest Shown in 1918 Richardton Meteorite
http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/13573922.htm New interest shown in 1918 Richardton meteorite Minot Daily News By ELOISE OGDEN January 7, 2006 RICHARDTON, N.D. - There's a box in the archives at the Assumption Abbey, filled with information about a meteorite that fell near this city more than 80 years ago. Whenever the Rev. Odo Muggli comes across articles and other information about the famous meteorite, he puts it in the box. "It's probably one of the most complete files on the Richardton meteorite," Muggli said. Muggli has a special interest in the Richardton meteorite. His uncles, Isidore and Gerard Muggli, witnessed the falling meteorite on June 30, 1918, and his father, Zeno Muggli, was a broker for the meteorite pieces that people found. Zeno, a farmer, sent pieces of the stony meteorite to laboratories and universities for scientific research. "My dad was a broker for the pieces in the '30s and '40s," Muggli said. Another brother of Zeno, John, also was a meteorite broker. There's new interest in North Dakota in the Richardton meteorite. The state Department of Mineral Resources - the new name for the Oil and Gas Division and state Geological Survey - and the State Historical Society of North Dakota have asked the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., to return specimens of the Richardton meteorite and specimens of an iron meteorite found on a farm near New Leipzig in 1936. The specimens would be for new paleontology exhibits set to open in the North Dakota Heritage Center in Bismarck in June. Specimens of nine different meteorites have been found in North Dakota, but the Richardton meteorite is considered the most studied and best documented meteorite ever to fall in the state. "It's the only one in North Dakota that has been witnessed," said Ed Murphy director and state geologist for the North Dakota Geological Survey. The Richardton meteorite was seen over more than 400 square miles, and the noise created by the breakup of the meteorite into chunks in the atmosphere, described as being similar to an intense explosion, could be heard over an area spanning at least 250 square miles, said Murphy and Nels Forsman, authors of "Meteorites in North Dakota," published in 1998. About 150 specimens with a combined weight of 220 pounds have been recovered from the Richardton meteorite, they said. Muggli has a small piece of the meteorite. "I would say it's about the size of my thumb. I would say it's three-quarters of an inch in diameter. Three sides are black where it entered the atmosphere and got burned, the other side is the saw cut where they cut a piece off," he said. Zeno Muggli shipped many pieces of the meteorite to various places but for some reason, he never kept a piece for himself, Odo Muggli said. In 1980, Odo Muggli wrote to St. John's University in Collegeville, Minn., which had a specimen of the meteorite, and asked for a sample of it. Officials there gave him the small specimen. On that night in June 1918, at about 10 or 10:30 p.m., Odo Muggli's uncles, Isidore and Gerard Muggli, witnessed the falling meteorite. "They were coming home from Dickinson and they saw this thing," he said. "They saw the flash and they stopped the car." Isidore sent a letter to Zeno some years later - in 1939 - describing the event. He said: "As I recall the event, I would say the flash or light came first and then the thundering, rumbling or vibrating sound followed." Isidore said the light became more and more brilliant until the explosion, and the sound continued for some time after the light was gone. "The light was so bright, it seemed like daylight, and the noise or thundering was more larger than the result from lightning. You could tell it was something powerful," Isidore said. He said the next morning, farmers south of Richardton said "some stones fell" and he realized what he actually suspected had happened. "The light was bright, but the thundering is something not so easily forgotten, it was big, it covered a large territory, you could tell that and of course, very deep in tone," Isidore said. Murphy said the largest piece of the meteorite reportedly found weighed 18 pounds. There's not much talk around Richardton anymore about the meteorite. "I'm one of the few," Muggli said. He said the meteorite came down in an area about 17 miles south of Richardton and about two miles east of N.D. Highway 8. Muggli said his father drew out a line with the angle at which the meteorite came down, based on an article. "He was always looking for pieces along that line," Muggli said. "He'd pick up pieces and other people would bring them to him, and he would send them to labs, mainly for scientific research. He would put them in pieces of inner tubes and tie the ends shut so they wouldn't bang against each other. That was how he told me he always shipped those things out. " In the 1970s, Odo Muggli and his father, who was about 80 at the time, visited a large me
[meteorite-list] Stardust Payload May Offer a Big Payoff
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/3571442.html NASA craft's payload may offer a big payoff A long-awaited mission returning with cosmic dust that could explain our very origins By MARK CARREAU Houston Chronicle January 6, 2006 After seven years of collection work in the inner solar system, a NASA spacecraft is hurtling back to Earth with a cargo of microscopic particles that may hold clues to the earliest formation of the planets and the distribution of materials responsible for life. Aptly named Stardust, the unmanned craft is on course for a fiery plunge into the Earth's atmosphere early Jan. 15, descending in darkness by parachute to the Utah desert. Eager scientists plan to pore over thousands of space particles, which were snatched by Stardust from the comet Wild-2 on Jan. 2, 2004, and from a stream of interstellar dust flowing through the solar system in 2000 and 2002. The extraterrestrial samples, with a collective mass estimated at less than a thousandth of a gram, will join the Apollo moon rocks in storage at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston. Comet particles will be parceled out to researchers worldwide for chemical and physical assessments. "This was a fantastic opportunity to collect the most primitive materials in the solar system," said Don Brownlee, the University of Washington scientist who serves as the mission's principal investigator. "We believe some of the particles from the comet will in fact be older than the sun and the planets." Launched Feb. 7, 1999, on a $212 million mission, Stardust spiraled outward from the Earth toward a rendezvous with Wild-2. Scientists think the comet, formed about 4 billion years ago, circled the sun from the outer solar system until a gravitational tug from Jupiter in 1974 pulled it within range of the robotic spacecraft. A bull's-eye On Jan. 2, 2004, Stardust scored a bull's-eye, swooping within 149 miles of Wild-2's 3.3-mile-wide icy core and snatching from a stream of tiny fragments. The fragments joined equally small pieces of interstellar dust trapped on board. Scientists puzzle over the role of comets in the formation of the solar system. Many think these collections of rock and ice served as intermediate building blocks and that vast clouds of comets on the frontier of the solar system are remnants from the construction process. They theorize that comets that collided with Earth during the final stages may have been the source of water that formed the oceans and the chemical elements considered precursors for life. Much earlier in the history of the universe, these elements were forged in the first generations of stars. As the earliest stars exhausted their supplies of hydrogen fuel, they exploded. The detonations created new, more complex chemical elements that were dispersed into space, where they became the raw materials for new stars and perhaps planetary systems. "We are using (Wild-2) as a kind of library, a carrier that scarfed up the building blocks of the solar system and preserved them far from the sun at low temperatures for 4.5 billion years and has now dumped them off," Brownlee said. As Stardust's journey draws to a close, NASA is preparing for the launch of New Horizons, another mission to explore the planet-building process. Slated for a Jan. 17 liftoff, New Horizons will make a decadelong journey to distant Pluto. An icy object that seems more than a comet but less than a planet, Pluto may reveal still more about how the solar system was constructed. As Stardust nears Earth late on Jan. 14, the spacecraft is programmed to eject a 100-pound, mushroom-shaped re-entry capsule containing the dust from the comet and stars. Its trajectory will steer the capsule into the Earth's atmosphere high above the Pacific Ocean four hours later. Traveling at more than 28,000 mph, Stardust will create a bright streak in the night sky as it crosses northern California, Nevada and Utah. The probe will head for a landing on the U.S. Air Force Utah Test and Training Range, southwest of Salt Lake City. The first of two parachutes is programmed to deploy at an altitude of 20 miles, about 105,000 feet. The recovery capsule should settle onto a stretch of desert terrain at 4:12 a.m., CST. Recovery teams will rely on radar and a radio beacon on the capsule to home in on the landing site. Scientists don't plan to open the capsule until it is flown to a receiving lab at the Johnson Space Center on Jan. 17, said NASA's Mike Zolensky, a co-investigator who will supervise the operation. Slicing a grain The opening will take place in a lab facility, with a cleanliness standard 100 times that of a hospital operating room, to protect the space materials from earthly contaminants that could pollute the samples before they are turned over to a team of 200 experts from Europe, Russia, Japan, Canada and South America as well as the United States. The fragments snagged by Stardust are trapped in aerogel, a springy lightweigh
[meteorite-list] On The Trail of Cosmic Mysteries, Stardust Heading Home
For JPL internal use only. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/254746_stardust06.html On the trail of cosmic mysteries, Stardust heading home Craft carrying tiny particles with big secrets heads home By TOM PAULSON SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER January 6, 2006 In about a week, a space capsule carrying the oldest material in the solar system will create a night fireball as bright as the moon, potentially visible from Washington to Utah, as it re-enters the atmosphere faster than any other man-made object has ever returned to Earth. Everyone is hopeful the parachutes will open this time. "It's hard to convey to people how tense these situations can be," said University of Washington astronomer Don Brownlee, principal scientist for NASA's Stardust mission. Stardust mission On Jan. 15, at 2:12 a.m. PST, Brownlee and his colleagues hope to celebrate the successful touchdown in the Utah desert of a 100-pound space capsule that will set all sorts of astronomical science and space exploration records -- the first deep space sample return, the farthest return trip of any spacecraft (nearly 3 billion miles) and the fastest re-entry speed (28,000 mph when it first hits the atmosphere). And that doesn't even begin to describe the potential scientific breakthroughs to come from studying the collected dust of a pristine comet and other interstellar particles. The tiny particles contain big secrets. They are thought to hold the original materials from which everything in our solar system, including life, was created. But before the science begins, they have to get Stardust's precious cargo back on Earth safe and sound. The last NASA space capsule to "land" at the same place, the Air Force Utah Test and Training Range southwest of Salt Lake City, was the Genesis probe in September 2004. Genesis' parachutes failed to deploy, and it smashed into the desert floor, cracking open and contaminating some of its cargo of collected solar wind particles. NASA officials say they are confident that Stardust's parachutes will not fail, despite the fact that Lockheed Martin Space Systems built both spacecraft and their chute systems. Brownlee shrugged off the concerns, noting Stardust's parachutes are different, simpler, so there's less to go wrong. Besides, he added, "We really have no control over it anyway once it starts coming back in." Launching the $212 million Stardust spacecraft Feb. 7, 1999, was much more nerve-racking, Brownlee said. Launches have a 95 percent success rate, he noted, which from a grimmer perspective means they don't succeed one out of every 20 times. When Stardust first went up, the radio signals from the craft began fading. Everyone went silent, Brownlee said, until the signals returned. Then, he said, there were indications the spacecraft was starting to fire some of its thrusters (made in Redmond by what was then Primex, now Aerojet) willy-nilly -- technically, "uncommanded thrusting." About Stardust "It felt like the whole thing was on the verge of disaster," Brownlee said. "There was this guy with his finger on a button to blow the vehicle up if it went off range. ... No one said anything for minutes." Then, somehow, Stardust pulled itself together, began operating as expected and headed off on its interplanetary journey to rendezvous with a comet named Wild 2 (pronounced "vilt") that recently had come in from the edge of our solar system. The mission since then, Brownlee said, has been amazingly glitch-free and has already produced new insights into comets. When Stardust finally encountered Wild 2, on Jan. 2, 2004, the spacecraft was able to shoot some close photos of the comet. "They were spectacular and surprising," Brownlee said. Wild 2 didn't look like it was supposed to, according to standard theory. Distant analyses of other comets such as Halley's had led scientists to think of comets as loose, unstructured piles of ice, dust and rocks. Wild 2 had craters and spires hundreds of feet tall -- indicating a firm structure. Numerous gas jets were shooting out of it. "It was really weird-looking," Brownlee said. But the real scientific prize was obtained not by looking, but by snatching. "The primary purpose of the Stardust mission was to collect comet dust, the most basic material of the solar system, and bring it back to Earth for study," said Brownlee, as if repeating the proposal he made to NASA more than a decade ago. The UW astronomer, a member of the National Academy of Sciences, is world-renowned for his work studying cosmic dust, interstellar particles -- stardust. But all of the particles studied so far have been collected relatively close to home. Earth's proximity to the sun alters these particles, chemically and physically. Brownlee wanted to get his hands on some pure stardust, the unadulterated material from which everything -- including life itself -- was created. "Virtually all of the atoms in our bodies came from the kind of grains we collected from
[meteorite-list] NASA's Stardust Sample Return Capsule and Entry Path Visible in Northwest
http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news104.html NASA's Stardust Sample Return Capsule and Entry Path Visible in Northwest Stardust Mission Flight and Recovery Team January 6, 2006 On January 15, 2006, after more than 7 years and billions of miles of travel through space, NASA's Stardust spacecraft will release a 100-pound sample return capsule (SRC) to Earth with some precious cargo -- pristine samples of comet and interstellar dust. Stardust will provide the world's first opportunity to analyze preserved samples of the fundamental building blocks of our Solar System that formed 4.6 billion years ago. During the pre-dawn hours of Sunday, January 15th, the Stardust sample return capsule's entry will occur at approximately 2:57 am Mountain time. Peak re-entry heating is expected to occur at an altitude of 61 km, (200,000 ft or 38 statute miles). The main heating-phase occurs over northern central Nevada, somewhat west & south of the corresponding Genesis re-entry phase (Figures 1 & 2). Figure 1 - Stardust Rentry Overview Map Because the entry occurs in the pre-dawn darkness, the influence of the moon is important for those viewing reentry. At that date & time the moon will be just past full and will be high in the sky to the southwest (66 degrees Elevation and -133 degrees Azimuth). For that reason, it is believed that the best observing location will be south of the ground track (Figure 1), placing the Moon at your back. Figure 2 - Stardust Rentry Overview Map #2 There will be many other acceptable viewing sites right along the I-80 corridor in Nevada beginning from Winnemucca, Battle Mountain, and Dunphy, as well as Carlin. Towns such as Elko, Nevada are close to the ground track but because Elko faces northward, it may not be as good of a viewing site. Despite what location you view the SRC entry, keep in mind that you will only see it for about 30 seconds using a 20 deg horizon visibility mask. For those setting up instruments, there are some suitable state parks such as South Fork Reservoir, which is about 16 miles south of Elko, Nevada that would provide public land, and the ability to set up instruments and camp. This site is located right under the flight path so the SRC would go straight overhead about 50 miles downrange from the peak heating point (peak heating is at 43 degree elevation). Whether the park is open seems to depend on snow conditions so you should check with Nevada Division of State Parks before arriving. Although it is difficult to pinpoint exactly the "best" viewing location, any site within the entry ground track and facing south would be more ideal. One final note, the sonic boom takes quite a while to travel down through 40 miles of the Earth's atmosphere - so you need to expect it to sound about 3 minutes after the SRC passes overhead. Happy viewing! Figure 3 - Stardust Azmuth, Elevation, Range Plot - Palisade Site Figure 4 - Stardust Azmuth, Elevation, Range Plot - Carlin Site "> Figure 5 - Stardust Azmuth, Elevation, Range Plot - Dunphy Site Figure 6 - Stardust Azmuth, Elevation, Range Plot - Battle Mountain Site Figure 7 - Azmuth, Elevation, Range Plot - Winnemucca Site Figure 8 - Azmuth, Elevation, Range Plot - Elko Site Figure 9 - Azmuth, Elevation, Range Plot - South Fork Reservoir Site __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Attn: All Meteorite Dealers - Need replies from all please.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Gary & list, Nice thread. My pockets have been full of rocks since childhood, and the space rock thing hasn't improved matters. I typically carry a nice crusted NWA chondrite and a little Sikhote or Canyon Diablo (today it was the latter). Being a tektite guy, I usually carry a nice little Indochinite teardrop or dumbell as well. It's pretty much inevitable that ANY conversation involving one or more meteorite freaks will get around to the key topic, so one must be prepared. I think this is another thing directly traceable to Harvey Nininger, who commonly passed meteorites around bars or any other gatherings he could find. As WE are the result, it's wholly appropriate that we should be packin' as well! Cheers, Norm http://TektiteSource.com P.S., As most would've guessed, I let the moths out of my wallet and bought the lot of Exogenic Fulgurites. They should be on our website by Monday night or Tuesday. Check in. The chance will be short and sweet--- --- "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? > If yes, what is your favorite piece > to carry? > > Gary > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Hello List, This is a great topic! I'm currently carrying a Franconia end cut of about 6 grams in my pocket, I carry it everyday. I've had "pocket pieces" for several years now. I'm an electrician and I go to a lot of residential homes to do service work, often times I can tell that the customer is a rock enthusiast- an opening for a lesson in meteorites! Only two days ago this happened and it turned out that the husband and wife were both geologists. I gave a quick demonstration and lesson while changing out some ceiling fans and installing some recessed lights. They are now interested in adding a meteorite to their extensive mineral and rock collection. I carry small pieces for another reason too. Just about six weeks ago I was installing a generator at an old brewery in Ann Arbor Mi. when a boy of about 12 came wondering through the property picking up pieces of glassy slag, I asked him about this and he informed me that he had quite a rock collection and these slags were cool additions. Of course I asked him if he had any meteorites, and when his eyes lit up I could see the wonder, he said no, so I handed over a beautiful Ghubara slice that had been riding arond in my pocket for several monthes! Later I met his mother and gave her the specifics on it so that they would know what they have. That's why I carry a pocket piece. As for a favorite, it's random. -Larry Atkins -Original Message- From: Gary K. Foote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:31:16 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket? Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece to carry? Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Gary, I wear my Allende proudly on a necklace in a silver setting on a leather rope, to assimilate a primitive style. When I tell 'em the skinny on it, they say , where did you find it? And I just love to say, "On EBAY where else!?" Ritchie - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket? Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece to carry? Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] stomatolite orders.... delete if not interested. ADD
Dear List members that are interested in stromatolites; We are getting a snow storm, I am moving, and am still a little flu-ish. I did get your items indoors, and in boxes. I did not get photos taken. Please be assured, I am working diligently on your requests. Any others wishing to get a stromatolite for show and tell, or to cut and polish, may like to know that after I get this first group of orders completed that I will offer the same deal again in a week or two. Stromatolites and banded irons are quite fascinating and if you are bored, try googling up either. Meteorites are cool too but much harder to find Best, Dave Freeman Rock Springs Wyoming __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Call for Photos
Hi Sergey, Thanks for the offer, but for the following reasons, I think I will stick with the process I am in now: 1) Many people will not send in a photo - even though they already have a photo or photos on the internet from articles I have written in the past or from Tucson Trips, etc. If they are already on the net, I feel free to use the photo again, but, of course, will immediately take it down if anyone should request I do so. The point is, I can get many times the photos even of people who do not respond to this particular request. 2) Many of the photos people submit are inappropriate - ie they are back lit, a large scene as opposed to a portrait, not terribly flattering, and/or poorly taken and greatly improved by working it over in photoshop - not available for people submitting directly. 3) I already have about 25 hrs invested and am not terribly drawn to abandoning the project now. 4) Pierre-Marie PELE offered me the opportunity to use any of the JPGs on his site to fill in any I didn't already have. (Thanks, Pierre!) So, thanks, again, but I will go with the site I currently have in process. NOTE: Once this is up anyone is welcome to send in a better photo, one with better pixle count, correct my spelling, request removal, send in photos if they didn't get "up" the first time around, etc. If you haven't sent in a photo yet, please do. Portrait types are preferred. Please just attach as JPG and I have no trouble downloading it. Best wishes, Michael on 1/8/06 1:41 AM, Sergey Vasiliev at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyway, Mike, I can offer you my help. This is a time consuming thing to > update an html page every time when you will receive a new image. I can make > a simple > website where people will upload their "faces" and names by them selves. > I can make it in a few days and can host it on my server. > > Of course it will state something like "Michael Blood's faces collection" > ;-))) or > whatever you want (you brought this idea up even that I was thinking about > it also). > > What do you think? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
I carry one or two around any time that I'm going to meet people who are at all interested in astronomy or even just groups of people in general. I've had several people say things to me like "I've got a rock just like that in my rock garden". So far none of them have been the real thing but you never know. Usually I carry around my biggest pieces, which aren't THAT big (the largest is just over a kilogram); A moroccan stoney and a campo del cielo iron. They're both rough uncut hand sized pieces.Graham Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:31:16 -0500>Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece>to carry?>>Gary>http://www.meteorite-dealers.com>>__>Meteorite-list mailing list>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Forgive me but I have to say, "Is that a meteorite in your pocket or are ya glad to see me?" Seriously, I carry a nice fresh crusted NWA when I'm hunting. People often want to know what you're doing and they usually get a kick out of seeing one. It also helps when they bring you wrongs that they insist are rites. Bill -- Original message -- From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your > favorite piece > to carry? > > Gary > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Gary, I always carry a couple of small Sikhote-Alins in my pocket. I like to have them available to show and/or give to interested non-collectors when the subject of meteorites comes up. Thomas --- "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? > If yes, what is your favorite piece > to carry? > > Gary > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:31:16 -0500, "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your >favorite piece >to carry? Yeah, I've almost always carried something or another in my pocket to fidget with when bored (there's even the term "fidget stone", so it isn't an uncommon habit). I have a favorite dark, "thumbprinted" 869 that weighs around 75 grams and "feels good" in my hand that I tend to stick in my pocket. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Call for Photos
Hey Michael, looks like a Serge of interest in the photo idea... :-) More nice language info from your last Michael, I love tidbits like those. 2006 09:41:59.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[C55581F0:01C61437] Hello Michael and All, I'm one of 3 Serges ;-) Mike, Good idea (for me)! I just started a new poll at my web site to see what other people think about it. So let's see. Anyway, Mike, I can offer you my help. This is a time consuming thing to update an html page every time when you will receive a new image. I can make a simple website where people will upload their "faces" and names by them selves. I can make it in a few days and can host it on my server. Of course it will state something like "Michael Blood's faces collection" ;-))) or whatever you want (you brought this idea up even that I was thinking about it also). What do you think? Vote! www.sv-meteorites.com (on the left side below the main menu). All the best, Sergey Hi all, I am in the process of putting together a METEORITE FRIENDS web page. Now, the fact is, there are only about 3 meteorite collectors or dealers I have ever encountered I don't consider a friend. I have several collector friends that have never bought from me, so, it doesn't mean "customer" - and I don't care whether you are the world's largest dealer or only sold one meteorite on eBay once upon a time. One of the purposes of this METEORITE FRIENDS page is to provide a "face with the name" for people in the meteorite community, so, if you don't go to Tucson, or, when you did/do you miss/ed half the people you have heard of, etc, you can actually "look them up" and see their handsome (or in a few cases, beautiful) mug. I was going to just make it random, but then it occurred to me that eventually it would probably be used as a reference, so, I will probably put it in alphabetical order - either by first name or last - probably first, so as to make things easier. In any event, the point is, I would really like it if you ALL would email me a JPG as an attachment (not some other method - people seam to always be able to find some way of sending me photos that doesn't work. Just attach a JPG - or, much better, SEVERAL jpgs of yourself - or, in the case of couples - of both of you to allow me to choose the one I deem most flattering and realistic. It would be fun to do a meteorite Jib-Jab thingy, but I ain't that gifted - nor do I have the time. However, I do think it would be fun to have a huge collection of all our faces to go with our names. Please RSVP to me directly. All you non-Americans are VERY MUCH invited to participate - I wanna see at least 3 Serges up there (ya, I know my spelling sucks - sorry) Of course, if you, for some ego trip or super sleuth motivation do not want anyone to know what you look like, to bad, you don't get to play. Please do not forget to mention your first and last name. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1) I am spelling impaired and 2) because of that same disability, I forget names like you wouldn't believe (most people do not believe I once forgot my own name - albeit very briefly). So, don't hesitate, pull out all them JPGs of yourself and send 'm in to Uncle Mikie and before the next ice age I will get a page up any and all can enjoy. RSVP Thanks, Michael -- The thing that sometimes has me hazy is whether it is them or I that's crazy. Albert Einstein -- "He is not a lover who does not love forever." - Euripides (485-406BC) Protected by Polesoft Lockspam http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/2006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
"Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece to carry? Gary" Hi Gary and List, Well, usually not in my pocket but on my nighttable ;-) Tomorrow, when I come home from school there will be - at least I hope so - three breathtaking pieces of Stefan Ralew's NWA 4039, possibly paired with NWA 1836, the "Twisted Sisters" in my mailbox, and these will surely spend their first night on my nighttable. These are the only "critters" my wife tolerates in our bedroom ;-)) Just back from enjoying Michael Blood's 111 pictures of his and Angel's trip to Mexico but now it's really time to go to bed. The alarm-clock will shock me at 5:55 CET :-( Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece to carry? Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet Capsule to Produce Light Show...
By ALICIA CHANG The Associated Press Sunday, January 8, 2006; 12:24 PM LOS ANGELES -- When a NASA capsule hauling comet and interstellar dust plummets through the Earth's atmosphere this weekend, residents in large sweeps of the West will witness a cosmic spectacle... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/08/AR2006010800383.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Do you want specimen cards ?....
Hi all If you dont want to / can not make your own personal specimen cards, I can be at your service. Just to let you know. Lars Pedersen -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af JKGwilliam Sendt: 8. januar 2006 19:03 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Arnold, Chicago!!; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Emne: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards Hello List, Off the top of my head, I can think of a dozen or more meteorite dealers and collectors who print their specimen cards on business card stock. If you don't want to take the time to figure out how to do it in Word or Works, you can always buy a stand alone program. For the last seven or eight years, I've been using some software called "My Business Cards" marketed by a company by the name of MySoftware Company. The program is so easy to use a kid can do it. It's nice to have all of your specimen cards the same size and laid out in the same format on the same color of card stock. Keep the cards you get from dealers and other collectors in a safe place, after all, they might be worth some money some day and you can always include them with a specimen when you sell or trade it. Best, JKGwilliam At 09:49 PM 1/7/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Steve, come on now, if you can use a computer, you can use Microsoft Word >or Works and create a business card, if you can do that, it is simple to >then make a specimen card. I print them by the thousands, it takes 5 >minutes to make a new card once you save a template. >Mike > -- Original message -- >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you > > buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people > > who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado > > with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have > > sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to > > send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to > > me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be > > nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone > > else who has had this problem? > > > > > > steve arnold, chicago > > > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > > > > > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! > > > > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. > > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > > dsl.yahoo.com > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chiemgau Impact on TV
Hi Stefan! What have you seen there? Do you belive in the Chiemgau Impact Theory? Any other thoughts? Ingo --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > Von: "Stefan Brandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: "Meteorite-list" > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiemgau Impact on TV > Datum: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 19:13:23 +0100 > > Thanks Ingo for the info! > > I was there myself last year at Grabenstätt and at Tüttensee > Wonder if there is any news of the words largest strawnfield! > Stefan > > > > Hi List! > > > > This could be intersting for german list members: Today at 19.30 (7.30 > > p.m.) > > will be a Terra X-report about the controversial Chiemgau Impact on ZDF! > > > > Ingo > > > > -- > > Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! > > Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chiemgau Impact on TV
Thanks Ingo for the info! I was there myself last year at Grabenstätt and at Tüttensee Wonder if there is any news of the words largest strawnfield! Stefan Hi List! This could be intersting for german list members: Today at 19.30 (7.30 p.m.) will be a Terra X-report about the controversial Chiemgau Impact on ZDF! Ingo -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Hello List, Off the top of my head, I can think of a dozen or more meteorite dealers and collectors who print their specimen cards on business card stock. If you don't want to take the time to figure out how to do it in Word or Works, you can always buy a stand alone program. For the last seven or eight years, I've been using some software called "My Business Cards" marketed by a company by the name of MySoftware Company. The program is so easy to use a kid can do it. It's nice to have all of your specimen cards the same size and laid out in the same format on the same color of card stock. Keep the cards you get from dealers and other collectors in a safe place, after all, they might be worth some money some day and you can always include them with a specimen when you sell or trade it. Best, JKGwilliam At 09:49 PM 1/7/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, come on now, if you can use a computer, you can use Microsoft Word or Works and create a business card, if you can do that, it is simple to then make a specimen card. I print them by the thousands, it takes 5 minutes to make a new card once you save a template. Mike -- Original message -- From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you > buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people > who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado > with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have > sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to > send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to > me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be > nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone > else who has had this problem? > > > steve arnold, chicago > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl.yahoo.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chiemgau Impact on TV
Hi List! This could be intersting for german list members: Today at 19.30 (7.30 p.m.) will be a Terra X-report about the controversial Chiemgau Impact on ZDF! Ingo -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Island Meteorite?
I can no longer reach Island Meteorite on the Web. Are they still in business? Mike Fowler Chicago __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Check out today's Boondocks (Apophas related)
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2006/bo060108.gif and if the direct gif link doesn't work http://www.ucomics.com/boondocks/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] website update/and thanks
Good morning from sunny and 42 degrees chicago.I have updated my website with some new specimens.View at your liesure.I also want to thank dana hawn for giving me a great idea on making specimen cards.I have already done 10 of them,and they look great.Thanks again dawn. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Call for photos
Hello Michael, I've got such a web page on my website at the following address. You can grab everything you want on it ! http://www.meteor-center.com/trombinoscope/index.html Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: meteorites without specimen cards (Steve Arnold, Chicago!!)
Yes, Steve I do have an idea. Although I am not a dealer just a collector I use to do marketing. Here is a link to the HP site to show you what I am talking about. http://h10050.www1.hp.com/activitycenter/us/en/maker/business_card.html When creating your cards you could simply have a blank line on the cards for you to hand write the name on the card. You could also put a second blank line to hand write the weight. Then you could have all the other info you want printed out on each and every one of them ready to go, such as business name, phone number, ect.. Dana Hawn __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Call for Photos
Hello Michael and All, I'm one of 3 Serges ;-) Mike, Good idea (for me)! I just started a new poll at my web site to see what other people think about it. So let's see. Anyway, Mike, I can offer you my help. This is a time consuming thing to update an html page every time when you will receive a new image. I can make a simple website where people will upload their "faces" and names by them selves. I can make it in a few days and can host it on my server. Of course it will state something like "Michael Blood's faces collection" ;-))) or whatever you want (you brought this idea up even that I was thinking about it also). What do you think? Vote! www.sv-meteorites.com (on the left side below the main menu). All the best, Sergey Hi all, I am in the process of putting together a METEORITE FRIENDS web page. Now, the fact is, there are only about 3 meteorite collectors or dealers I have ever encountered I don't consider a friend. I have several collector friends that have never bought from me, so, it doesn't mean "customer" - and I don't care whether you are the world's largest dealer or only sold one meteorite on eBay once upon a time. One of the purposes of this METEORITE FRIENDS page is to provide a "face with the name" for people in the meteorite community, so, if you don't go to Tucson, or, when you did/do you miss/ed half the people you have heard of, etc, you can actually "look them up" and see their handsome (or in a few cases, beautiful) mug. I was going to just make it random, but then it occurred to me that eventually it would probably be used as a reference, so, I will probably put it in alphabetical order - either by first name or last - probably first, so as to make things easier. In any event, the point is, I would really like it if you ALL would email me a JPG as an attachment (not some other method - people seam to always be able to find some way of sending me photos that doesn't work. Just attach a JPG - or, much better, SEVERAL jpgs of yourself - or, in the case of couples - of both of you to allow me to choose the one I deem most flattering and realistic. It would be fun to do a meteorite Jib-Jab thingy, but I ain't that gifted - nor do I have the time. However, I do think it would be fun to have a huge collection of all our faces to go with our names. Please RSVP to me directly. All you non-Americans are VERY MUCH invited to participate - I wanna see at least 3 Serges up there (ya, I know my spelling sucks - sorry) Of course, if you, for some ego trip or super sleuth motivation do not want anyone to know what you look like, to bad, you don't get to play. Please do not forget to mention your first and last name. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1) I am spelling impaired and 2) because of that same disability, I forget names like you wouldn't believe (most people do not believe I once forgot my own name - albeit very briefly). So, don't hesitate, pull out all them JPGs of yourself and send 'm in to Uncle Mikie and before the next ice age I will get a page up any and all can enjoy. RSVP Thanks, Michael -- The thing that sometimes has me hazy is whether it is them or I that's crazy. Albert Einstein -- "He is not a lover who does not love forever." - Euripides (485-406BC) Protected by Polesoft Lockspam http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/2006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Nickel test DMG recipe + Q
A repost with a new title. G'day List, just a tad more of something to add to the data pot. Foundries often cast mining machinery parts using an alloy known at the foundry as NiHard. I worked at a foundry for a while. NiHard can be made from cast iron with a small amount of new nickel in the form of ingot thrown into the pot and melted, or old NiHard and cast Iron, with less new nickel added. It is very hard and also brittle. Ni content % varies between 0.5% to 10% And for those out there that do still work in a foundry, don't let the fairies get ya..!!! Don't throw cold lumps of metal into a pot contain molten material, it will explode, the molten material can be thrown up to 30 metres from a small 1 or 2 man pour. 20-60kg of material. And you can also make you own nickel test kit if you obtain a chemical known as DMG or Di-MethylGlyoxime. Make a solution of this DMG in metho (Oz) or methylated spirits (de- natured alcohol U.S.). about 5% strength. Also obtain a bottle of ammonia solution from your hardware store or supermarket. Use a cotton bud and moisten it with the DMG solution, 2 drops, then 2 drops of the ammonia solution, then rub the suspect sample with the cotton bud. If it turns pink, it indicates the presence of Nickel. DMG = CH3.C(:NOH).C(:NOH).CH3 Ajax chemicals and BDH are supposed to be suppliers of DMG, but after several emails, they have failed to reply. They might still be on holidays, but I have tried this several times over a few months. BDH Product Code Description Pack Size 100983G Dimethylglyoxime 'AnalaR' 100G 130463C Dimethylglyoxime GPR 100G BDH Australian Distributor MERCK PTY LTD A.B.N. 25 005 064 791 207 Colchester Road Kilsyth Victoria 3137 TEL:+ 03 9728 5855 Fax:+ 03 9728 7611 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.merck.com.au Toll free phone (Australia-wide): Enquiries and Orders: 1800 335 571 (general enquiries):[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical: 1800 032 900 Ajax DMG 25 grams Product Code 197-25G Ajax DMG 10 grams Product Code 197-10G Also if native Iron occurs on Earth why not in the greater cosmos, it is just that we have not yet found any. That doesn't mean it does not exist, only that we have not yet found any. It also seems that using nickel to confirm or dispell something as being meteoric in origin, might leave some very interesting specimens in a rubbish heap as failing the meteorite test, when in fact they are and rare at that. One day it will happen and a great rush will be on re-testing old rubbish, looking for a new treasure, nickle-less meteorites. But I am in the same boat as everyone else, I know of no meteoric Iron with no nickel. Have I looked, no, I can only say like most of us, if it has nickel in it, good chance for it being a meteorite. How could we test for a meteorite with NO nickel Why does Shirokovsky fail as being meteoric in origin Is it a natural deposit? Is their no nickel in it? Cheers all, Kevin, VK3UKF. Thanks to everybody for these clear and detailed information. I use a nickel test kit called "Allertest Ni Nickel Allergy Kit" (from www.allerderm.com) and never got positive results. I tested many suspected iron meteorites and always got negative results. It showed positive results on a common iron meteorite I tested. Maybe it's a good test kit ? Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
