[meteorite-list] free chico, nm impact melt
folks, i am looking for DETAILED information the SOCIAL CIRCLE, GA meteorite. i am looking for papers, research, and most-of-all, GOOD QUALITY PHOTOS. i will give a chico impact melt of approx. 1- 1.5 grams (will saw off big piece) FOR FREE to whomever who can give me the BEST information on social circle, ga that fits MY needs and MY applications- just like the X-games, I am the judge of the quality of the information that will fit MY needs best. HINT: GOOD PIX + RESEARCH PAPERS are the direction you want to go. your basic google searches ain't gonna do it. you will have to got to your local college or university, museum, meteorite collection, etc., to find what i want. you will have to dig a little deeper and do a little more homework for this one. but, hey, if you happen to know where the stuff is, YOU GET A FREE SKYROCK! and a COOL one at that! but you gotta send me a S.A.S.P. to get it back to you. so you europeans make sure you put enough postage on it or it will be wasted in the ocean for you and me. i will anounce and thank the winner. NO LINKS. cut-n-paste the appropriate info+photos from any links and send it in a personal email to me. photos rule, but info is essential. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Experiment Update #1
Göran & all, I don't understand the chemistry involved, but I have personally used a concentrated sodium hydroxide bath to remove rust from very rusty Campos. It took weeks, but scales of rust just kept detaching untill the bottom of the pail was a centimeter deep in rust flakes. I did do a final treatment with a wire brush, but ended with a beautiful metallic specimen. This treatment wasn't just a rust stopper. It removed rust in large quantities. The solution didn't discolor as if iron was being dissolved. Flakes just popped off and fell to the bottom. Cheers, Norm http://tektitesource.com --- Göran Axelsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not a rust cleaner treatment, it is a rust > stopper treatment. > > To remove the rust you have to use more traditional > methods, like polishing. > > Acidic solutions with a low Ph makes it easier to > dissolv the iron > hydroxides in rust but at the same time the iron > will be unprotected > against oxidation. Basic solutions with a high Ph > stops the iron > hydroxides to dissolv but protects the iron against > oxidation by > passivation, it becomes chemically inert. > > The idea behind the hydroxide solution is to protect > the iron while > chloride ions are leached out of the meteorite. > > I would recommend small volumes in the bath, maybe > twice the volume of > the meteorite but at least covering it, combined > with numerous > replacement of the solution. In the beginning it > should be closer > between the changes of the solution as it faster > gets contaminated. When > the chlorine levels in the meteorite and the > solution is in balance it > doesn't help to let it lie longer. > > Archeologists sometimes uses ordinary tapwater in > the initial bath but > at the end they use deionised or distilled water. > > And whatever you do, don't use chlorinated water, > that could make it > rust even faster. > > /Göran > > tracy latimer wrote: > > > About 10 days ago I dunked my poor Fredericksburg > in what I hoped > > would be a rust removal bath of half Liquid Drano > and half anhydrous > > alcohol. Since then, I have swirled it about at > least once a day, and > > some of the rust has come off, but not all. The > bath is lightly > > tinged with brown and there is a fine peppering of > rust flakes on the > > bottom of the glass jar. I will give it another > week or so, but if > > there is not a significant change in the quantity > of rust in > > suspension rather than on my meteorite, Freddy > will be taken out of > > the bath and more old fashioned methods of getting > rid of rust will be > > regretfully employed. > > > > Watch this space for more fast-breaking news! > > Tracy Latimer > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Experiment Update #1
Hi, Liquid Drano contains sodium hypochlorite as well as sodium hydroxide, so there are plenty of chlorine ions in this solution, and soaking in it is likely to increase the chlorine ions in the iron rather than leach them out. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: "Göran Axelsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Experiment Update #1 This is not a rust cleaner treatment, it is a rust stopper treatment. To remove the rust you have to use more traditional methods, like polishing. Acidic solutions with a low Ph makes it easier to dissolv the iron hydroxides in rust but at the same time the iron will be unprotected against oxidation. Basic solutions with a high Ph stops the iron hydroxides to dissolv but protects the iron against oxidation by passivation, it becomes chemically inert. The idea behind the hydroxide solution is to protect the iron while chloride ions are leached out of the meteorite. I would recommend small volumes in the bath, maybe twice the volume of the meteorite but at least covering it, combined with numerous replacement of the solution. In the beginning it should be closer between the changes of the solution as it faster gets contaminated. When the chlorine levels in the meteorite and the solution is in balance it doesn't help to let it lie longer. Archeologists sometimes uses ordinary tapwater in the initial bath but at the end they use deionised or distilled water. And whatever you do, don't use chlorinated water, that could make it rust even faster. /Göran tracy latimer wrote: About 10 days ago I dunked my poor Fredericksburg in what I hoped would be a rust removal bath of half Liquid Drano and half anhydrous alcohol. Since then, I have swirled it about at least once a day, and some of the rust has come off, but not all. The bath is lightly tinged with brown and there is a fine peppering of rust flakes on the bottom of the glass jar. I will give it another week or so, but if there is not a significant change in the quantity of rust in suspension rather than on my meteorite, Freddy will be taken out of the bath and more old fashioned methods of getting rid of rust will be regretfully employed. Watch this space for more fast-breaking news! Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] question re campos sales
Hello Bob and List, I believe one of the larger stones (~2 kilo's) was used to hold a bean pot. Take Care, Jason Phillips Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com Bob WALKER wrote: A question for thelist I seem to recall that Campos Sales was deemed to be a hammer stone? For tidiness won't say which dealer/s say so but the story was something along the lines of "... fell in a pot..." Do any of you whizzkidz know any more about the circumstances of the fall and whether campos sales can be deemed to be a hammer or not? Any info would be greatly appreciated Thanx __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stupid shuttle
I wish that we would go ahead and kill that overblown, overpriced, glorified delivery truck death trap now, and put that money towards REAL science and not just effing around in LEO. And deorbit the trainwreck of a space station we ended up with. Look at what actual science is being damaged by those PR toys: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/02/science/space/02nasa.html?ex=1298955600&en=ed05c5fddfb2d27c&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Experiment Update #1
This is not a rust cleaner treatment, it is a rust stopper treatment. To remove the rust you have to use more traditional methods, like polishing. Acidic solutions with a low Ph makes it easier to dissolv the iron hydroxides in rust but at the same time the iron will be unprotected against oxidation. Basic solutions with a high Ph stops the iron hydroxides to dissolv but protects the iron against oxidation by passivation, it becomes chemically inert. The idea behind the hydroxide solution is to protect the iron while chloride ions are leached out of the meteorite. I would recommend small volumes in the bath, maybe twice the volume of the meteorite but at least covering it, combined with numerous replacement of the solution. In the beginning it should be closer between the changes of the solution as it faster gets contaminated. When the chlorine levels in the meteorite and the solution is in balance it doesn't help to let it lie longer. Archeologists sometimes uses ordinary tapwater in the initial bath but at the end they use deionised or distilled water. And whatever you do, don't use chlorinated water, that could make it rust even faster. /Göran tracy latimer wrote: About 10 days ago I dunked my poor Fredericksburg in what I hoped would be a rust removal bath of half Liquid Drano and half anhydrous alcohol. Since then, I have swirled it about at least once a day, and some of the rust has come off, but not all. The bath is lightly tinged with brown and there is a fine peppering of rust flakes on the bottom of the glass jar. I will give it another week or so, but if there is not a significant change in the quantity of rust in suspension rather than on my meteorite, Freddy will be taken out of the bath and more old fashioned methods of getting rid of rust will be regretfully employed. Watch this space for more fast-breaking news! Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (AD) TRADE OFFER
good afternoon list.It seems that not to many people have or are willing to trade any park forest for my 1 kilo gibeon.Well that is alright.I am still looking to trade it,maybe any type of AUBRITES?Let me know offlist.A picture is on my homepage of my website. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] question re campos sales
Hi Bob and List, > I seem to recall that Campos Sales was deemed to be a hammer stone? Not sure what a hammer stone is! > the story was something along the lines of "... fell in a pot..." The stone that fell into a pot, well, that was the Juancheng, H5, chondrite. This Chinese meteorite landed in a pot: "One fragment was reported to have penetrated a roof and landed in a pot on a stove. This meteorite has been widely traded and sold under the unofficial name 'Heze'." Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] question re campos sales
A question for thelist I seem to recall that Campos Sales was deemed to be a hammer stone? For tidiness won't say which dealer/s say so but the story was something along the lines of "... fell in a pot..." Do any of you whizzkidz know any more about the circumstances of the fall and whether campos sales can be deemed to be a hammer or not? Any info would be greatly appreciated Thanx __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Mars in 3D
Hello, all, With common red/blue filtered glasses, you can see several Mars photos in exceptionally detailed 3D here: http://berlinadmin.dlr.de/Missions/express/firsteng.shtml http://berlinadmin.dlr.de/Missions/express/firsteng.shtml (Technology from the '50's that just won't quit!) Cheers, Pete From: Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Express Images: Ausonia Mensa Remnant Massif Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:36:47 -0800 (PST) http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM8RLMZCIE_0.html Ausonia Mensa remnant massif Mars Express European Space Agency 24 February 2006 These images, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board ESA's Mars Express spacecraft, show the Ausonia Mensa massif on Mars. [Map showing location of the massif in context] The HRSC obtained these images during orbit 506 with a ground resolution of approximately 37.6 metres per pixel. The scenes show the region of Hesperia Planum, containing the massif, at approximately 30.3° South and 97.8° East. North is to the right in these images. Ausonia Mensa is a large remnant mountain with several impact craters, rising above basaltic sheet layers. The mountain stretches over an area of about 98 kilometres by 48 kilometres and has an elevation of 3700 metres. [Colour nadir view of Ausonia Mensa] A large crater, approximately 7.5 kilometres in diameter and 870 metres deep, has been partially filled with sediment. The northern flank of the crater is broken by a large gully caused by erosion. Numerous branched channels, also resulting from erosion, run along the edge of top of the plateau toward the plains at the foot of the mountain. The western flank of the mountain is dominated by a large crater, about six kilometres in diameter, which clearly shows an ejecta blanket and secondary cratering. Aeolian, or "wind-created", structures are visible about 50 kilometres to south-east of the massif, indicating channeling of atmospheric flow. They are clearly visible because of their different colour. [Black and white nadir view of Ausonia Mensa] A heavily eroded, partially filled crater of approximately six kilometres diameter is visible to the north of the massif. The crater is characterised by numerous, smaller and younger craters. The colour scenes have been derived from the three HRSC-colour channels and the nadir channel. The perspective views have been calculated from the digital terrain model derived from the stereo channels. [3D anaglyph view of Ausonia Mensa] The 3D anaglyph image was calculated from the nadir and one stereo channel. Image resolution has been decreased for use on the internet. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Express Images: Ausonia Mensa Remnant Massif
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM8RLMZCIE_0.html Ausonia Mensa remnant massif Mars Express European Space Agency 24 February 2006 These images, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board ESA's Mars Express spacecraft, show the Ausonia Mensa massif on Mars. [Map showing location of the massif in context] The HRSC obtained these images during orbit 506 with a ground resolution of approximately 37.6 metres per pixel. The scenes show the region of Hesperia Planum, containing the massif, at approximately 30.3° South and 97.8° East. North is to the right in these images. Ausonia Mensa is a large remnant mountain with several impact craters, rising above basaltic sheet layers. The mountain stretches over an area of about 98 kilometres by 48 kilometres and has an elevation of 3700 metres. [Colour nadir view of Ausonia Mensa] A large crater, approximately 7.5 kilometres in diameter and 870 metres deep, has been partially filled with sediment. The northern flank of the crater is broken by a large gully caused by erosion. Numerous branched channels, also resulting from erosion, run along the edge of top of the plateau toward the plains at the foot of the mountain. The western flank of the mountain is dominated by a large crater, about six kilometres in diameter, which clearly shows an ejecta blanket and secondary cratering. Aeolian, or "wind-created", structures are visible about 50 kilometres to south-east of the massif, indicating channeling of atmospheric flow. They are clearly visible because of their different colour. [Black and white nadir view of Ausonia Mensa] A heavily eroded, partially filled crater of approximately six kilometres diameter is visible to the north of the massif. The crater is characterised by numerous, smaller and younger craters. The colour scenes have been derived from the three HRSC-colour channels and the nadir channel. The perspective views have been calculated from the digital terrain model derived from the stereo channels. [3D anaglyph view of Ausonia Mensa] The 3D anaglyph image was calculated from the nadir and one stereo channel. Image resolution has been decreased for use on the internet. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar Meteorite on Display at Belfast Museum
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/4765656.stm Rare moon rock on show at museum BBC News March 2, 2006 A Belfast museum is quite literally over the moon about its latest acquisition. A rare piece of moon rock, which was found in Oman in 2001, is being unveiled this weekend. It is part of the Ulster museum's Rocky Roadshow, which explores all sorts of rocks and fossils. A museum spokeswoman said: "All of the moon rock on earth would fit into the boot of a small car - making our small piece of rock far more valuable and rare than gold or diamonds." More than 90% of the lunar rocks on earth were brought back by the Apollo astronauts and are owned by Nasa. But the rock going on show fell to earth as a meteorite after being blasted off the moon's surface by the impact of another meteorite. The spokeswoman added: "Although it weighs only 6.39 grams, this is one of the largest pieces of moon rock on display outside of the USA. "What is even more amazing is that it probably came from the far side of the moon. This was an area never visited by the Apollo astronauts and never seen from earth." About 20,000 space rocks are estimated to land on this planet every year but very few hail from the moon. One of the few ways to understand the chemistry of the moon's surface is by analysing these lunar meteorites - little fragments of rock that are flung into space during great impacts before occasionally winding up on earth. Only about 30 of them have ever been found in deserts around the globe. Lunar meteorites are useful for building up a data base of the range of rocks on the moon. But it is hard to work out which rocks come from where, because moon rocks can betray their place of origin. If you wish, you can bring your own rocks to the Rocky Roadshow and the museum's experts will do their best to tell you more. The Rocky Roadshow is on from 1330 - 1630 GMT on Saturday and from 1430 - 1630 GMT on Sunday. Entrance is free. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Instruments of Cosmochemistry: Ion Microprobe
http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Feb06/PSRD-ion_microprobe.html Instruments of Cosmochemistry Ion Microprobe Planetary Science Research Discoveries February 28, 2006 Written by Linda M. V. Martel and G. Jeffrey Taylor Hawai'i Institute of Geophysics and Planetology In this series of articles, "Instruments of Cosmochemistry," PSRD highlights the essential tools and amazing technology used by talented scientists seeking to unravel how the solar system formed. You will find information on how the instruments work as well as how they are helping new discoveries come to light.lightbulb Precision Instrument The ion microprobe is a Secondary Ion Mass Spectrometer (SIMS), a precision instrument used to quantitatively analyze the elements and isotopes of materials at microscopic scales. This complicated instrument consists of an ion source, mass spectrometer, detection system, associated electronics, and vacuum system. A schematic diagram of an ion microprobe is presented later, but first we'll look at the instrument's use of a primary ion beam to bombard a sample of material and how that gives us information about the material's composition. In SIMS analysis, a primary, high-energy beam of ions (usually oxygen, argon, or cesium) is aimed at a small area of a sample, such as a mineral grain. The primary ions have energies on the order of 10,000 electron volts. (An electron volt is the energy given to an electron by accelerating it through 1 volt of electric potential difference. The electrons in a typical television screen ... not the new flat-screens... have about 20,000 electron volts.) The primary ions dig a hole into the sample causing sputtering of atoms and ions (called secondary ions) that reveal the elemental and isotopic characteristics of the sample. See graphic below. [graphic of supttering] Artist's rendition of an incoming beam of ions (colored purple) impacting a sample and sputtering off the upper few layers of particles (colored red, green, and blue) some of which are ions. These secondary ions (approximately 1% of the sputtered material) are accelerated into a mass spectrometer, where they are sorted by mass/charge ratios with a large sector magnet. See diagram below. [ions through mass spec] [light through prism] TOP: In a mass spectrometer, ions travel different paths through the magnet to the detector due to their mass/charge ratios. A mass analyzer sorts the ions according to mass/charge ratios and the detector records the abundance of each ratio. BOTTOM: For an analogy, think of how a prism refracts and scatters white light separating it into a spectrum of rainbow colors. A series of ion detectors counts the ions in different mass categories. Analysts take these raw counts, apply corrections, and normalize them to well-analyzed standards to arrive at the true abundances of elements and isotopes in the original sample. (Read an account of SIMS in use in PSRD article: A New Type of Stardust) The diagram, below, shows the entire instrument scheme. [schematic diagram of an ion microprobe] The different components of an ion microprobe are numbered and color-coded in this diagram. Ion beam paths are shown in white. Starting from the left, the primary ion column (yellow) provides the highly-focused ion beam produced from one of two sources (1,2). The sample (5, red) is located where the primary ion column joins the secondary ion extraction system (blue) wherein lenses focus the sputtered secondary ions into the mass spectrometer entrance slit (9, orange). The secondary-ion mass spectrometer (orange) is a double focusing mass spectrometer with both electrostatic and magnetic sectors. The electrostatic analyzer (10) bends lower energy ions more strongly than higher energy ions. The ions then pass through the electromagnet sector (13) where lower mass ions are bent more than higher mass ions. Finally, the secondary ions pass to the sensitive detection systems (green), which include an electron multiplier for counting individual ions (19), and Faraday cup for measuring ion current (20). CamecaTM ims-series ion microprobes also have the capability to operate in "ion microscope" mode, providing elemental and isotopic imaging capability at ~1 micrometer spatial resolution. The images are captured by an imaging device consisting of a channel-plate (17) and a fluorescent screen (18) in the detection system. SIMS analysts may choose to vary several features of the instrument: (1) the polarity and species of the primary ion beam (O-, O2+, Ar+, Cs+ are often used), (2) the impact energy (between ~3,000-20,000 electron volts), current, and diameter of the primary ion beam, (3) the polarity of the secondary ion beam, and (4) the initial kinetic energies of the secondary ions detected. SIMS Virtues SIMS allows the study of microscopic grains in their nativ
[meteorite-list] Two Other Mars Missions Heating Up
http://news-info.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/6575.html Two other Mars missions heating up Radar mapping polar caps, impact craters By Tony Fitzpatrick Washington University in St. Louis March 1, 2006 Two Mars orbiter missions - one from NASA, the other from the European Space Agency (ESA) - will open new vistas in the exploration of Mars through the use of sophisticated ground-penetrating radars, providing international researchers with the first direct clues about the Red Planet's subsurface structure. Roger Phillips, Ph.D., Washington University in St. Louis Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences in Arts & Sciences, is participating in both the Mars Express (ESA) and NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) missions by lending his expertise in radar. Phillips says that the combination of the radars on the two missions will provide important and unique data sets that will directly map the structure of the upper portions of the interior of Mars. The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (above) is poised to go into orbit around Mars in March, then spend about six months aerobraking to place the spacecraft in a low circular orbit by this fall. Roger Phillips, Ph.D., WUSTL professor of earth and planetary sciences and director of the university's McDonnell Center for the Space Sciences, is lending his expertise in radar for both the MRO and for the European Space Agency's Mars Express. Mars Express features an instrument called the Mars Advanced Radar for Subsurface and Ionospheric Sounding (MARSIS); Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter's radar instrument is called the Shallow Subsurface Radar (SHARAD). Both instruments have been built primarily by the Italian Space Agency, and, says Phillips, they are complementary. Mars Express went into orbit on Christmas Day of 2003, but the radar developed some technical problems and didn't start operating until the summer of 2005. One of the problems was making sure that the craft's long antennas would unfold without damaging the spacecraft. This necessitated a full stop, followed by many hardware and computer simulations until confidence was gained that the antennas could be deployed safely. The first data were published in the journal Science late last year, with Phillips a co-author along with approximately 30 European and American colleagues. "One of the spectacular results of that paper is the fact that we've sounded the northern polar cap of Mars, the radar signals penetrating all the way to the bottom of the icy cap and bouncing back so that we can see right down to the cap's base, nearly two kilometers deep," Phillips says. "This result tells us that we will eventually be able to map the volume of both the northern and southern ice caps, which will provide a much better understanding of the origins and evolution of these features and the amount of water that is tied up frozen in the caps. The radar is looking inside the planet directly - that's never been done before on Mars." The northern cap data also provide the Mars Express team with the first direct observation of how the load of the ice cap deforms the planet's underlying crust - a phenomenon called flexure. There is in fact no flexure observed within the error limits of the radar data, which means that the crust beneath the northern polar cap is very strong, says Phillips. "That also tells us that the heat output of the planet at present is quite low. There have been theoretical models predicting this, but never a direct observation until now. " Finding unfrozen subsurface water is a possibility, too; this is the Holy Grail of MARSIS, Phillips says. "At the boundary of a water-rich environment we should see a very strong reflection. Whether we find such a reflector remains to be seen - we're in the early days of gathering data. Right now MARSIS is carrying out a campaign to map the structure of the southern polar cap." Phillips says that the MARSIS radar also has mapped buried impact craters, which should revise the theory of how old the martian crust is and how it evolved. SHARAD will likely not probe as deeply as MARSIS, but it has ten times the vertical resolution, allowing for opportunities to map detailed subsurface stratigraphy, says Phillips, who is also director of Washington University's McDonnell Center for the Space Sciences The MRO spacecraft is now poised to go into orbit around Mars in March, and will then spend about six months aerobraking to place the spacecraft in a low circular orbit by this fall. This will mark the start of a two-year mapping campaign that NASA calls the primary science phase. Phillips is Deputy Team Leader for the MRO SHARAD experiment. The Team Leader is Roberto Seu, Ph.D., of the INFOCOM Department at the University of Rome, La Sapienza, Italy. "I think that SHARAD will be an excellent mapper of the sedimentary layers on Mars, and that will help us better understand the water history of the planet, "Phillips says. "One of my hopes is to connect what SHARAD maps in
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Rock entry on Wikipedia
The most interesting thing is that noone spotted that link earlier, it's been there since august. I took the liberty to remove the link to BCC meteorite page and substitute it with a more proper link. Anyone who wants to see the original page Karin wrote about just have to click on the history tab on top of the page and select an older version. I also removed the link on the page about lunar meteorites. Wikipedia isn't better than the contributions from it's users but with enough honest people it's a tremendous resource. Eventually errors and frauds will be spotted and corrected. I think there could be a lot of contributions in the meteorite category. Why not pick a subject and write some facts, it isn't hard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Meteorites /Göran Karin Hughes wrote: I know the subject has been addressed in the past about Wikipedia and it's accuracy. Take a look at the last link at the bottom of the page on Moon Rock. Interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_sample K. _ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Moon Rock entry on Wikipedia
I know the subject has been addressed in the past about Wikipedia and it's accuracy. Take a look at the last link at the bottom of the page on Moon Rock. Interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_sample K. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT-ish Anyone have the full size version of this?
COOL! - Original Message - From: "Pete Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT-ish Anyone have the full size version of this? Did you check out the video? From: "Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Meteorite Mailing List" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT-ish Anyone have the full size version of this? Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:35:19 -0500 what an incredible image! - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT-ish Anyone have the full size version of this? I'm wanting the full 16,000x12,000 version of this photo (yes, that is the right number of zeros) http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2006/10/image/a __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites funny video
EXCELLENT! Thanks Frederic Beroud http://www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/) - Original Message - From: "Moser Francesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ZZ ML Meteorite-List" Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites funny video > Hi folks, > you MUST SEE THIS (just 1Mb): > http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/met.mpeg > > It's too funny :-) > I hope you have never seen it > > > Ciao > > <><><><> > Francesco Moser > http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/ > IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc > > "There's just one kind of man that you can trust, > that's a dead man, or an IMCA like me." > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Francesco, List, Thanks,this makes my day. Verry funny Take a Look at it !!! Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Moser Francesco Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. März 2006 10:03 An: ZZ ML Meteorite-List Betreff: [meteorite-list] meteorites funny video Hi folks, you MUST SEE THIS (just 1Mb): http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/met.mpeg It's too funny :-) I hope you have never seen it Ciao <><><><> Francesco Moser http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/ IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc "There's just one kind of man that you can trust, that's a dead man, or an IMCA like me." __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorites funny video
Hi folks, you MUST SEE THIS (just 1Mb): http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/met.mpeg It's too funny :-) I hope you have never seen it Ciao <><><><> Francesco Moser http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/ IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc "There's just one kind of man that you can trust, that's a dead man, or an IMCA like me." __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT-ish Anyone have the full size version of this?
Did you check out the video? From: "Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Meteorite Mailing List" Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT-ish Anyone have the full size version of this? Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:35:19 -0500 what an incredible image! - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT-ish Anyone have the full size version of this? I'm wanting the full 16,000x12,000 version of this photo (yes, that is the right number of zeros) http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2006/10/image/a __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list