[meteorite-list] Re: Lets VOTE !
Dear Marcin and All: Last year (as previously mentioned by Adam), the owner of the Meteorite List, Mr. Art Jones, asked for feedback from all subscribers regarding what sort of advertising policy the List should adopt. That was the time to make comments to Art. I did, and I'm sure many of you did as well. Art listened. He instituted the one ad per week/per person rule as a result. So, in a sense, there already has been a vote. In the past, a couple of extremely unpleasant people have been thrown off the List for failing to observe the few, simple, reasonable guidelines. Art is a very patient person and it takes a lot to get thrown off, but it DOES happen! Personally, I'd be pleased if it happened a little more often : ) Okay, now how about some more of those hilarious TV ads featuring meteorites? Best to all, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org Tucson, AZ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ads
This what I am talking about all the whining and petty bickering . I don't give a hoot how many ads or discussions go on as long we could all stop complaining . If you don't like the ad hit the delete key . If you don't like the person hit the delete key . Stop festering over these kid like topics . I hope we all don't whine and cry like this in the rest of our lives . I got my hand on the delete key Good Night and have a Wonderful Day tomorrow PS this is not an ad but I have a wonderful shipment of New Meteorites that should be here next week . That is if they don't lose it like FedX did 2 weeks ago . Spent 2 days on the phone with the Vice President of FedX , they found my package in Mexico with my correct address still on the package ! Ken My Friends I would rather read and delete 10 ads than read one more complaint , whining and petty bickering . My kids don't cry and complain 1/10 this much . Not even when they were babies ! So lets grow up a little . I vote for 2 ads per week with exceptions understanding things happen and exceptions are necessary ! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ads
> Ads on the list don't bother me. > > They used to, but I figured if they don't bother > Art - and apparently they don't - then they don't bother me. > > In fact, I would like to see MORE ads, from those dealers who have nice > material but rarely, if ever, place ads. > > I get tired of seeing the same old "begging for bids" > on ebay type ads from same dealers week after week. > > As if none of use could find or use ebay without their help. > -Walter Branch hi There is main difference beetween Steve "everyday" ad's and dealers like Greg, Adam, Mike and others. On Steve AD;s there is nothing to see except name, weight and "I wait for offers" and then he not even send You reply to Your exchange/purchase offer. So for me its just annoying spam. But AD's from more serious dealers like Hupes or Farmer (or others more rarely seen) You can enjoy not only alot of rare types but also big, high quality photos !! I have not buy from Mike or Greg/Adam nothing from months becouse their stuff not fit my offer (and I don't make my collection bigger now), but I can read their ads every day if they will bing from lab new stuff. Thats it -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ads
Ads on the list don't bother me. They used to, but I figured if they don't bother Art - and apparently they don't - then they don't bother me. In fact, I would like to see MORE ads, from those dealers who have nice material but rarely, if ever, place ads. I get tired of seeing the same old "begging for bids" on ebay type ads from same dealers week after week. As if none of use could find or use ebay without their help. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ads Hi Rob, If there is enough interest in separating the ads from the meat then 600+ just might subscribe - or at least that portion interested in seeing the ads. Gary On 12 Mar 2006 at 17:50, Rob Wesel wrote: Won't work Gary, you don't have 600+ subscribers from every continent in every field of interest. I hardly use the Yahoo list in favor of Met Cent Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ads >I am setting up a list for meteorite ads only. That way this list can >be >kept for talk > and the other used for ads only. No limit on ads on the new list. > I'll > have it > configured either tonight or tomorrow. > > Gary > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ads
We have been down this road many times, yahoo groups, etc.Won't work. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ads Hi Rob, If there is enough interest in separating the ads from the meat then 600+ just might subscribe - or at least that portion interested in seeing the ads. Gary On 12 Mar 2006 at 17:50, Rob Wesel wrote: Won't work Gary, you don't have 600+ subscribers from every continent in every field of interest. I hardly use the Yahoo list in favor of Met Cent Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ads >I am setting up a list for meteorite ads only. That way this list can >be >kept for talk > and the other used for ads only. No limit on ads on the new list. > I'll > have it > configured either tonight or tomorrow. > > Gary > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ads
Hi Rob, If there is enough interest in separating the ads from the meat then 600+ just might subscribe - or at least that portion interested in seeing the ads. Gary On 12 Mar 2006 at 17:50, Rob Wesel wrote: > Won't work Gary, you don't have 600+ subscribers from every continent in > every field of interest. > > I hardly use the Yahoo list in favor of Met Cent > > Rob Wesel > http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > -- > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:44 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Ads > > > >I am setting up a list for meteorite ads only. That way this list can be > >kept for talk > > and the other used for ads only. No limit on ads on the new list. I'll > > have it > > configured either tonight or tomorrow. > > > > Gary > > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Clear Coat Iron Slices?
Hello Everyone, I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on coating iron slices with some type of clear coat to help prevent rust? Pros? Cons? Would driving off as much water as possible then applying the clear coat work? Are harmful gasses trapped by the process? Any discussion or opinions would be appreciated. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lets VOTE !
> Here is simple Vote system. > http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/vote.htm Please, Say what You think. Do not make mess :) You can also place here YOUR COMMENTS. Its anonymous, so You can say what You really think. What You hate or what You like on our list. The most interesting things for me here will be how many list members will vote. This show how many members are interested to change anything, how many of them care about all this AD's or fights etc. YOUR COUNTRY NEED YOU YOUR COMMUNITY NEED YOU !!! WE NEED YOU LETS VOTE !!! -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ads
I am setting up a list for meteorite ads only. That way this list can be kept for talk and the other used for ads only. No limit on ads on the new list. I'll have it configured either tonight or tomorrow. Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lets VOTE !
Hi Yes we have 600 people here or maybe more ? I dont remember. Anyway I also dont want some of things that happend here again and again and again. Sometimes I have some seconds of good laught, sometimes Im tired of using my Del key. Sometimes easy work as use Del key can be also a hard and annoying work. So here is my proposition. (please send all suggestions) Lets say what YOU think. Tell us what You Think about Steve, about ADs. Lets VOTE ! Here is simple Vote system. http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/vote.htm RULES: 1) You can check more than one option. 2) You can vote only ONCE. 3) Your vote is anonymous. 4) You must say Truth 5) You must vote, becouse You are member of this list. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Enough already " I vote for 2 "
My Friends I would rather read and delete 10 ads than read one more complaint , whining and petty bickering . My kids don't cry and complain 1/10 this much . Not even when they were babies ! So lets grow up a little . I vote for 2 ads per week with exceptions understanding things happen and exceptions are necessary ! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - Bob Haag Collection piece
Ending soon. Bob Haag Pierceville collection piece. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmaccers531QQhtZ-1 Thanks Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT/AD Meteorite crime:??METEORITE-FUNNY-RABBIT-LAPIN-en-METEORITE
This is just the sort of thing that is going to get institutions involved trying to impose regulations. Would you build a ladder out of dinosaur bones? Cultural artifacts fine, adds to the history, but turning them into rabbits or knives or bolts or hearts or Superman S's spells trouble. Silly Rabbit, kicks are for twids Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 4:22 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT/AD Meteorite crime:??METEORITE-FUNNY-RABBIT-LAPIN-en-METEORITE Dear List, Here is a fine example of a waster of meteorites! Nyone who buys this Funny Bunny needs an exam. And yes he has more wasted material listed. Dirk...Tokyo http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-FUNNY-RABBIT-LAPIN-en-METEORITE_W0QQitemZ7225535114QQcategoryZ10893QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem '^Ó: fRf"fsf.[f^,ÌfEfCf > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SOHO video feedback
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:11:01 +1100, you wrote: >There were more failures than success. I guess it comes down to codecs. I utterly LOATHE proprietary formats like Windows Media, Quicktime, and Real. Stick with Divx or Xvid or similar products-- superior quality, superior compression, superior and more extensive sets of free/cheap tools for working with them. On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:11:01 +1100, you wrote: >Does anyone know of a good movie clip joiner that is free ?? > Virtualdub. http://www.virtualdub.org/ Virtualdubmod (supports some formats that Virtualdub doesn't). http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net/ TMPGEnc http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html Then, once you have the file made, you can convert it to DVD format with this: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/ConvertXtoDVD.htm And not free but very reasonably priced, this is a easy to use but reasonably powerful program for organizing and menu-ing your DVD formatted files: http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda.html For more help, go to: http://www.videohelp.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT/AD Meteorite crime:?? METEORITE-FUNNY-RABBIT-LAPIN-en-METEORITE
Dear List, Here is a fine example of a waster of meteorites! Nyone who buys this Funny Bunny needs an exam. And yes he has more wasted material listed. Dirk...Tokyo http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-FUNNY-RABBIT-LAPIN-en-METEORITE_W0QQitemZ7225535114QQcategoryZ10893QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Ó: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vOÉæÁÄW°çêÄ¢éêª èÜ% __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already!
--On Mar 12, 2006, at 6:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --The consequences would only mean more spam. Corollary spam if you like. By that rule we are all entitled to a dozen --retaliatory spams rebutting Steve in the next eleven days. 10 more for me since I've already used 2. Dean made a good point. No, No, No! The offense is too many ads. After your have criticized that once why would you want to do the same 11 times? --Just complain to Art. Yes Yes Yes! (and/or directly to the offender) Mike Fowler Perhaps to keep the list from being overwhelmed with negative vibes we should have a corrollary (sp?) rule: Only criticize the same offense once. Or better yet, keep the criticism off list. Mike Fowler Chicago Being spammed with anti spamming is not progress! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SOHO video feedback
Hi folks, thanks for all the feedback re the SOHO video. There were more failures than success. I guess it comes down to codecs. What a bugger. I used windows movie maker to glue the clips together, I could not stop it from changing the aspect ratio. It seemed the best at leaving the resolution alone. Does anyone know of a good movie clip joiner that is free ?? I'll try again, as well as placing the original NASA SOHO files online. Cheers, Kevin. VK3UKF. ORIGINAL FILE COMPLAINTS Hi Kevin, It comes into Netscape as a text file. Chauncey - It doen't work for me, I just get various strange letter characters. I usr Firefox though so that could be the problem. When I use IE my Real Player loads and I see the sun but the movie only plays about 1/10 and quits. David Kevin, I manually saved the .wmv file to my hard drive (9K file). Attempted to manually play video, with no success. Given my previous attempt, it may be that the file downloaded OK, it just didn't play. Dave Hi Kevin, It does not download for me (obvious, it doesn't play since it hasn't downloaded). Regards, Dave Hi Kevin, download works fine, and it plays OK, but it´s a bit too fast playing to recognize details. And I didn´t figure out how to slowmotion it yet. Greetings Stefan All I got was a very long page of html-like jibberish code...like chinese writting. Dave F. Hello, Downloaded the file fine. Double-clicked onthe file, which launched WinAmp (version 5.2). Showed the sun in blue. The slide moved to the right as if the movie was being played, the the image didn't change until the very end when the image when very splotchy with large square blocks similar in texture to the sun, but scattered randomly around the image. Double-clikced the file again, and this time it seemed to run normally with spinning blue sun, spinning yellow sun, spinning orange sun, and the the masked-out sun showing the coronasphere which showed a couple of "puffs" on the left just before the end of the movie. Every time I run it now it works fine. Only had a problem the first time I ran it. Hope this helps. Mark Abbott Kevin, It seemed like it was loading but Windows media player would not play it. Dan I wasn't able to get it to play in either foxfire or IE. but maybe thats my machine...been acting up Kevin, It didn't work for me. - John Hi Kevin, Your video downloaded and played start to finish just fine on my computer!! Regards, Steve It isn't downloading here (I have a 3 megabit connection, FWIW). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already!
The consequences would only be more spam. Corollary spam if you like. By that rule we are all entitled to a dozen retaliatory spams rebutting Steve in the next eleven days. 10 more for me since I've already used 2. Dean made a good point. Just complain to Art. Bill Being spammed with anti spamming spam isn't progess either. > Perhaps to keep the list from being overwhelmed with negative vibes we should > have a corrollary (sp?) rule: > > Only criticize the same offense once. > > Or better yet, keep the criticism off list. > > Mike Fowler > Chicago > > Being spammed with anti spamming is not progress! > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Spamfest 2006
ONCE weekly is cool![I too learned who to buy from here] Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Dave Carothers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Spamfest 2006 Dear Adam and List, First... Well said, Adam. Second, let me add my $0.02. As a new collector, I'm continually looking at the people in this community to determine who the players are. I'm especially careful to analyze the people I buy meteorites from. Is he/she reliable? Does he/she have integrity? I do so, because as you all well know, a collector had better have faith in anyone selling him or her meteroites or you might just as well go out and buy that $3M "Martian" rock that was classified via a "vision". This list is a great place to evaluate people. Adam keyed in on one such evaluation item (for me at least) i.e. "breaking a promise". This list has rules. Most of the list members follow them. Those that don't, at least in my eyes, have lost major integrity points. It's bad enough that people submit multiple ads, however, replying to an ad with an apology and then following with yet more info about your ad is, to my military mind, a biggest ploy to insert yet another ad --- NO CLASS If you can't follow a simple rule like placing an AD only once a week, why should I or any other buyer EVER think that you would be straight forward with me in any sale? A rhetorical question - How many other members of this list either conciously or subconciously feel the same way? Those of you who can't or won't follow the rules may want to think about that. FWIW, just my opinion. Dave - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Spamfest 2006 Dear List, Art carefully thought about the direction of this List and asked for a consensus before making the once a week advertisement rule. After asking for input from subscribers, he set the rule realizing the List would soon turn into a spamfest without it. If he thought it was important enough to make this rule, then users who post to this List should abide by it, after all, it is Art's creation. As members of this Forum, users agreed to post advertisements only once a week. Those who post ads more than once a week are going against something they agreed to, breaking a promise. How can people who break promises ever be trusted to do the right thing? Please show some respect to Art and those involved in the consensus. There are probably 20 different users posting ads once a week with a couple thinking they are above the rules posting two or more. If everybody posted three to seven times, then 60 to 140 ads would have to be waded through each week, a true spamfest! Over advertising in this type of environment will only serve to turn off the audience nullifying the affect. If those who break this rule think they are somehow special, are above everybody else and these rules do not apply to them, let them gain permission from Art otherwise they should be called on breaking a promise. Take Care, Adam - Original Message - From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] enough already > on 3/12/06 8:22 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am for 2 AD post for week, one its many few, seen > > for ebay auctions if ended in 3 days... > > Matteo > -- > You can be "For" whatever you like, Mateo. However, > this is Art's list, not yours. He makes the rules. > Michael > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Flash in (Louisiana) sky likely a meteor, but no evidence of impact found
http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/suburban/2446497.html One secton stands out to me: "Hupp said NASA didnt have any indication of something big enough to hit the ground going through Earths atmosphere in the Louisiana area Thursday night. We would know it, she said. They do watch that stuff, because we do watch our satellites." So, are there records of known meteorite falls where NASA did see it happen? Park Forest, maybe? The New Orliens meteorite? I don't remember reading anything about NASA radar detection of any falls. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] enough already!
Dear Bessey Said in Part: -What do you expect to acompolish by complaining to the -other 600 list members anyway? I suspect that one is -trying to make themselves look "holy" as complaining -to Art would be the actual intelligent thing to do. My two cents worth: Perhaps to keep the list from being overwhelmed with negative vibes we should have a corrollary (sp?) rule: Only criticize the same offense once. Or better yet, keep the criticism off list. Mike Fowler Chicago Being spammed with anti spamming is not progress! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
I have to say that I am finding this "sucking up" to art and talking about "respect for him" and such is very amusing. By publicly spamming the list with complaints rather than complain to art in private I am suspicious that certain individuals are trying to make themselves look "holy" rather than trying to solve an actual problem. This is especially amusing given that last year before the one a week "Big steve and matteo" rule came into effect art publicly said that he didnt care and only put the rule in place after more complaint emails were received than Steve and matteo sent in the first place. That being said there comes a point where enough sale postings is enough. After all, do one really need to advertise ebay auctions 5 times a week to the same people (And Steve, think about it, you are offering the same rocks twice a day - are you really getting enough sales on each new posting to make it worthwhile - and at the same time compensate for the ill will you are generating and lost sales because of that). Before this new "Big Steve and Matteo" rule came into effect things went nicely. People who regularly sent a lot of sale postings (A group that includes myself, farmer, the hupes, cottingham, blood, bob and others as well as people who post less regularly) did send regular sale postings and while certain people didnt like it (Steve shooner comes to mind) nobody was really upset at the number of sale postings. It was only after Steve and matteo went a bit (OK, more than a bit) overboard that people started complaining. This whole thing is an isolated problem. However, the one a week rule (Assuming one religiously followed it) causes new problems that affects not only dealers but other list members. Everybody (Except Steve and Matteo) made postings that were spread out and not overly irritating and was often done to announce new offerings. For example, me and other dealers who get moroccan stuff would make more postings after trips, Blood makes more marketing postings before Tucson about his auctions ect but then you rarely hear from him. Even matteo announced a new martian a couple times. These sale postings are more than sale postings (Sometimes) and many list members are interested in these new announcements even if they are not nterested in buying. For example if some dealer announces a new lunar or achondrite having a sale with the announcement makes sense. And if somebody reading the announcement and looks at the new pictures of a new meteorite (And many dealers make stunning photos of their meteorites which interests a lot of people) it would be considered normal in almost any industry to have to sit through an ad to learn about it. You have to sit through an ad to watch a video on cnn.com or on TV for example. Is it really fair for example to limit blood to one ad a week before a major meteorite event in february (when he needs a dozen postings as he asks for submissions, updates to the sale, logistics on how to submit auctions or find the venue ect) when you rarely hear from him (With sale postings) the rest of the year? Before I left Canada I had a lot of postings as I was liquidating stuff (Including once a "Third day in a row" sale which ironically drew complaints of spamming from matteo) and dealers coming from morocco or after tucson, munich or ensisheim advertsiing new things that they acquired. Many list members are interested in these postings. And many are also interested in new ebay listings. The delete button is very useful and deleting an extra 4 pieces of spam a day when you usually get dozens is not such a big hassle. But the new "One a week Big Steve and Matteo rule" is making this more difficult if everyone if religiously followed and reduces the overall value of the list. Matteo said earlier today that he "Prefers 2 a week". I am sure nobody would complain if it was indeed "2 a week". He probably does that now anyway and nobody complains or even notices. I would also expect more sale postings made around the time of the big shows. Of course this is Arts list and he can make whatever rules he wants but the new rule was made due to lots of complaints about big steve and matteos dozens of postings and more than the dealers making the postings are suffering. Art has pretty much ignored this violation and unless somebody groosely violates it (Like steve this week) I doubt Art cares to much. But if one wants to complain complain to art - not to the other 600 members who dont have the power to change anything anyway - postings that has alraedy generated more hard feeings than steves postings ever did. What do you expect to acompolish by complaining to the other 600 list members anyway? I suspect that one is trying to make themselves look "holy" as complaining to Art would be the actual intelligent thing to do. Obviously a group discussion might be useful to but not to the extend of the bloodletting that has been going on. But this is an isolated problem and involves two indivi
Re: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post
Hi List, The list of addresses could be a subset of our original list of meteorite dealers. But bots collect all addresses on a page, not just some of the addresses. http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm The addresses did not come from our new Meteorite Dealers YellowPages because not all have added their sites yet. http://www.meteoritetimes.com/meteorite-dealers.htm This on one of the advantages of the Yellowpages because each dealer is in control of their listing and can decide if they want their e-mail address listed or not. Paul At 02:44 PM 3/12/2006, you wrote: Then it is odd they did not pick up my name. I am not complaining! just wondering what their criteria was. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 3/12/2006 3:32:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Batkol and list, It came from yellow pages of met times because that is the only place M. Sherwood is listed. Dirk --- batkol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > looks like someone went to the meteorite yellow > pages on met. times or > another like website and copied all the addresses. > > > - Original Message - > From: "R. N. Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:54 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post > > > > I received one of the typical Nigerian spam > messages today > > ( wanting to place an order by cc.) but > though this one was > > particularily interesting because of who it > was directed to. > > It would be interesting to try to trace the > origin of one like > > this in particular due to the sender's > selection > > of recipients! Does anyone know of this > sender? > > (Maybe it is a stolem address.) > > > > > > murphy cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [This is spam] Mark > > Unread > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post
Then it is odd they did not pick up my name. I am not complaining! just wondering what their criteria was. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 3/12/2006 3:32:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Batkol and list, It came from yellow pages of met times because that is the only place M. Sherwood is listed. Dirk --- batkol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > looks like someone went to the meteorite yellow > pages on met. times or > another like website and copied all the addresses. > > > - Original Message - > From: "R. N. Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:54 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post > > > > I received one of the typical Nigerian spam > messages today > > ( wanting to place an order by cc.) but > though this one was > > particularily interesting because of who it > was directed to. > > It would be interesting to try to trace the > origin of one like > > this in particular due to the sender's > selection > > of recipients! Does anyone know of this > sender? > > (Maybe it is a stolem address.) > > > > > > murphy cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [This is spam] Mark > > Unread > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post
Batkol and list, It came from yellow pages of met times because that is the only place M. Sherwood is listed. Dirk --- batkol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > looks like someone went to the meteorite yellow > pages on met. times or > another like website and copied all the addresses. > > > - Original Message - > From: "R. N. Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:54 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post > > > > I received one of the typical Nigerian spam > messages today > > ( wanting to place an order by cc.) but > though this one was > > particularily interesting because of who it > was directed to. > > It would be interesting to try to trace the > origin of one like > > this in particular due to the sender's > selection > > of recipients! Does anyone know of this > sender? > > (Maybe it is a stolem address.) > > > > > > murphy cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [This is spam] Mark > > Unread > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - > Release Date: 3/10/2006 > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
re [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post
-- Forwarded message -- From: chris aubeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mar 12, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post To: batkol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Software robots hunt and collect email addresses from webpages and then build directories from them. The messages from this list are even available as RSS, so we are an easy target, no doubt. Chris On 3/12/06, batkol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > looks like someone went to the meteorite yellow pages on met. times or > another like website and copied all the addresses. > > > - Original Message - > From: "R. N. Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:54 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post > > > > I received one of the typical Nigerian spam messages today > > ( wanting to place an order by cc.) but though this one was > > particularily interesting because of who it was directed to. > > It would be interesting to try to trace the origin of one like > > this in particular due to the sender's selection > > of recipients! Does anyone know of this sender? > > (Maybe it is a stolem address.) > > > > > > murphy cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[This is spam] Mark > > Unread > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 3/10/2006 > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post
looks like someone went to the meteorite yellow pages on met. times or another like website and copied all the addresses. - Original Message - From: "R. N. Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post I received one of the typical Nigerian spam messages today ( wanting to place an order by cc.) but though this one was particularily interesting because of who it was directed to. It would be interesting to try to trace the origin of one like this in particular due to the sender's selection of recipients! Does anyone know of this sender? (Maybe it is a stolem address.) murphy cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[This is spam] Mark Unread To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 3/10/2006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An unusual spam post
That is interesting Ron. I dont know if its somehow related but I have recently been receiving an unusually large amount of spam of this sort lately (Although more often trying to steal ebay or paypal passwords). I have noticed a HUGE increase the last couple weeks and am running well over 100 spam messages a day. Probably a lot more than that. I get about 25 a day from ebay user precisionlaptops4u asking for the postage cost to a certain zip code for example. On a completely different note one of my customers told me a month ago that he made a posting to the met list in november and he was afterwards swamped with a lot of spam. It might have been coincidental but he dont post anymore. You think somebody might be singling out meteorite people to harass with spam? Thats a very suspicious list that you have there. However the address on the list for me is not one that I use to post to the list so if it is its a list that was put together in a very time consuming way and not a robot taking emails of the web. Like somebody took the email of meteorite related people off websites. I believe Jim Strope is good at tracing isp codes so maybe we should ask him if he can trace where the email actually came from although there are still ways of faking that. I used to have some extremily good software for this that would show bounces all over the world but lost it when I reformated my hard drive once. Sincerely DEAN --- "R. N. Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I received one of the typical Nigerian spam > messages today > ( wanting to place an order by cc.) but though > this one was > particularily interesting because of who it > was directed to. > It would be interesting to try to trace the > origin of one like > this in particular due to the sender's > selection > of recipients! Does anyone know of this > sender? > (Maybe it is a stolem address.) > > > murphy cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [This is spam] Mark > Unread > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - > Release Date: 3/10/2006 > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] An unusual spam post
I received one of the typical Nigerian spam messages today ( wanting to place an order by cc.) but though this one was particularily interesting because of who it was directed to. It would be interesting to try to trace the origin of one like this in particular due to the sender's selection of recipients! Does anyone know of this sender? (Maybe it is a stolem address.) murphy cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[This is spam] Mark Unread To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 3/10/2006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] last day of sale/I am sorry/AD
Rob Wesel - a wise man. -Walter - Original Message - From: "Rob Wesel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] last day of sale/I am sorry/AD Which is it Steve, which is more important: MARRIAGE PEOPLE METEORITES A marriage about to end is no laughing matter, but you have managed to make it a folly. If my wife gave me such an ultimatum I can promise you that running to the computer to do deals would be about the last thing in the world I would do. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 4:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] last day of sale/I am sorry/AD Good morning list.I have gotten some rather nasty emails about my continued spamming of the list with my sales.I do apologize for the continued mess.I was very stressed out when I did what I did.But after sometime out to reflect where I want to go,it became clear what is more important.PEOPLE!This is the last day of my sale,where from now till 9 pm chicago time,everything continues to be half price.I added 6 more nice pieces today,all half off and I will continue to pay for shipping.After this sale I will become invisible for a while.I will continue to go by art's rules.But lately I noticed othe r people have disobeyed them as well.Again I am sorry. steve arnold,chicago,usa Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Back to meteorites
Hey the list is getting to self-referring, Let's have some fun with stones. Look what I found today! Medal ceremony. http://www.igsb.uiowa.edu/Browse/meteor/meteor.gif Miss California (Old Woman) http://siarchives.si.edu/history/exhibits/thisday/march/meteorite.jpg On the rocks - cheers! http://calgary.rasc.ca/photos/tagish_lake_1.jpg Historical toilet seat http://www.meteorite.fr/en/images/EnsisheimStone.jpg Spoiled collector's face http://uanews.ua.edu/anews2004/nov04/images/meteorite1_72.jpg Hansel & Gretel.. http://www.westminsterastro.org/library/meteorite_kids.jpg Father... http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_collections/library/library_sites/photo_ archives/geology/large_images/GEO79617_lg.jpg ...and Son http://www2.kinneret.ac.il/bloss/astrotour/meteors/images/obs14.jpg Jonny Depp as Willy Wonka http://www.meteoritearticles.com/files/me_and_display.jpg Mike at the day nursery http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/EP-177/i8-17.jpg The Postman Always Rings Twice http://www.eaae-astro.org/eaae/newsl2/l2_fig17.gif The dumbest farmers have the largest potatoes.(German saying for: Fortune favours fools) http://www.ucalgary.ca/oncampus/weekly/june25-04/meteorite1.jpg Scandalous meteoritewrong carving http://www.hmag.gla.ac.uk/John/Huntmin/hpphotos/High%20Possil%20monument.jpg where I will lay down: http://www.mnhs.org/places/historycenter/exhibits/territory/fortune/images/l s_ps04.gif Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Adam Hupe Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. März 2006 19:07 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Spamfest 2006 Dear List, Art carefully thought about the direction of this List and asked for a consensus before making the once a week advertisement rule. After asking for input from subscribers, he set the rule realizing the List would soon turn into a spamfest without it. If he thought it was important enough to make this rule, then users who post to this List should abide by it, after all, it is Art's creation. As members of this Forum, users agreed to post advertisements only once a week. Those who post ads more than once a week are going against something they agreed to, breaking a promise. How can people who break promises ever be trusted to do the right thing? Please show some respect to Art and those involved in the consensus. There are probably 20 different users posting ads once a week with a couple thinking they are above the rules posting two or more. If everybody posted three to seven times, then 60 to 140 ads would have to be waded through each week, a true spamfest! Over advertising in this type of environment will only serve to turn off the audience nullifying the affect. If those who break this rule think they are somehow special, are above everybody else and these rules do not apply to them, let them gain permission from Art otherwise they should be called on breaking a promise. Take Care, Adam - Original Message - From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] enough already > on 3/12/06 8:22 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am for 2 AD post for week, one its many few, seen > > for ebay auctions if ended in 3 days... > > Matteo > -- > You can be "For" whatever you like, Mateo. However, > this is Art's list, not yours. He makes the rules. > Michael > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: MeteoriteAritcles.com Auctions..Monnig items, TS's+
Hello Everyone, I currently have a 1000+ auctions going, including the following. Lots of goodies many started at $0.99. Several items from the Monnig collection (with labels), a nice Cold Bokkeveld specimen with crust, thin sections and more Take a look! Dalgety Downs L4 Meteorite 34.6g Fragment w/Window. Famous Australian Meteorite, Comes w/ Monnig # & Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611210992 Bluff (a) L5 Meteorite Part Slice w/Crust 25.2 grams. Fayette County, Texas Find - Comes w/ Monnig # & Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611212934 Tulia (a) H3-4 Meteorite Endcut - 43.2 grams. Swisher County, Texas; Comes w/ Monnig # & Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611219114 Round Top (a) L5 Meteorite Endcut w/Crust - 11.9 grams. Low TKW Texas Find, Comes w/ Monnig # & Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611221337 Bouvante Eucrite Meteorite from France - RARE. Low total known weight, Comes w/ Monnig # & Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611222432 Cold Bokkeveld Carbonaceous CM2 Meteorite Fragment. Oct. 1838 Fall with low TKW, Comes w/ Monnig # & Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611224514 Beenham L5 Meteorite Part Slice w/Crust 11.9g. Hard to Find New Mexico Find, Comes w/ Monnig # & Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611225451 Nogoya Carbonaceous CM2 Meteorite Fragment - 180 mg. June 1879 Fall with low TKW, Comes w/ Monnig # & Label http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611226653 NWA 800 Rumurutite R4 Meteorite Thin Section, A Quality http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611562756 Hassayampa H4 Meteorite Thin Section, High Quality http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611565351 Clover Springs Mesosiderite Meteorite Thin Section http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611567333 Zegdou H3 Morocco Meteorite Thin Section, High Quality http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611568809 Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearitcles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] last day of sale/I am sorry/AD
Which is it Steve, which is more important: MARRIAGE PEOPLE METEORITES A marriage about to end is no laughing matter, but you have managed to make it a folly. If my wife gave me such an ultimatum I can promise you that running to the computer to do deals would be about the last thing in the world I would do. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 4:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] last day of sale/I am sorry/AD Good morning list.I have gotten some rather nasty emails about my continued spamming of the list with my sales.I do apologize for the continued mess.I was very stressed out when I did what I did.But after sometime out to reflect where I want to go,it became clear what is more important.PEOPLE!This is the last day of my sale,where from now till 9 pm chicago time,everything continues to be half price.I added 6 more nice pieces today,all half off and I will continue to pay for shipping.After this sale I will become invisible for a while.I will continue to go by art's rules.But lately I noticed othe r people have disobeyed them as well.Again I am sorry. steve arnold,chicago,usa Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Spamfest 2006
Dear Adam and List, First... Well said, Adam. Second, let me add my $0.02. As a new collector, I'm continually looking at the people in this community to determine who the players are. I'm especially careful to analyze the people I buy meteorites from. Is he/she reliable? Does he/she have integrity? I do so, because as you all well know, a collector had better have faith in anyone selling him or her meteroites or you might just as well go out and buy that $3M "Martian" rock that was classified via a "vision". This list is a great place to evaluate people. Adam keyed in on one such evaluation item (for me at least) i.e. "breaking a promise". This list has rules. Most of the list members follow them. Those that don't, at least in my eyes, have lost major integrity points. It's bad enough that people submit multiple ads, however, replying to an ad with an apology and then following with yet more info about your ad is, to my military mind, a biggest ploy to insert yet another ad --- NO CLASS If you can't follow a simple rule like placing an AD only once a week, why should I or any other buyer EVER think that you would be straight forward with me in any sale? A rhetorical question - How many other members of this list either conciously or subconciously feel the same way? Those of you who can't or won't follow the rules may want to think about that. FWIW, just my opinion. Dave - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Spamfest 2006 > Dear List, > > Art carefully thought about the direction of this List and asked for a > consensus before making the once a week advertisement rule. After asking > for input from subscribers, he set the rule realizing the List would soon > turn into a spamfest without it. If he thought it was important enough to > make this rule, then users who post to this List should abide by it, after > all, it is Art's creation. > > As members of this Forum, users agreed to post advertisements only once a > week. Those who post ads more than once a week are going against something > they agreed to, breaking a promise. How can people who break promises ever > be trusted to do the right thing? > > Please show some respect to Art and those involved in the consensus. There > are probably 20 different users posting ads once a week with a couple > thinking they are above the rules posting two or more. If everybody posted > three to seven times, then 60 to 140 ads would have to be waded through each > week, a true spamfest! Over advertising in this type of environment will > only serve to turn off the audience nullifying the affect. > > If those who break this rule think they are somehow special, are above > everybody else and these rules do not apply to them, let them gain > permission from Art otherwise they should be called on breaking a promise. > > Take Care, > > Adam > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite > List" > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] enough already > > > > on 3/12/06 8:22 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I am for 2 AD post for week, one its many few, seen > > > for ebay auctions if ended in 3 days... > > > Matteo > > -- > > You can be "For" whatever you like, Mateo. However, > > this is Art's list, not yours. He makes the rules. > > Michael > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Spamfest 2006
Dear List, Art carefully thought about the direction of this List and asked for a consensus before making the once a week advertisement rule. After asking for input from subscribers, he set the rule realizing the List would soon turn into a spamfest without it. If he thought it was important enough to make this rule, then users who post to this List should abide by it, after all, it is Art's creation. As members of this Forum, users agreed to post advertisements only once a week. Those who post ads more than once a week are going against something they agreed to, breaking a promise. How can people who break promises ever be trusted to do the right thing? Please show some respect to Art and those involved in the consensus. There are probably 20 different users posting ads once a week with a couple thinking they are above the rules posting two or more. If everybody posted three to seven times, then 60 to 140 ads would have to be waded through each week, a true spamfest! Over advertising in this type of environment will only serve to turn off the audience nullifying the affect. If those who break this rule think they are somehow special, are above everybody else and these rules do not apply to them, let them gain permission from Art otherwise they should be called on breaking a promise. Take Care, Adam - Original Message - From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] enough already > on 3/12/06 8:22 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am for 2 AD post for week, one its many few, seen > > for ebay auctions if ended in 3 days... > > Matteo > -- > You can be "For" whatever you like, Mateo. However, > this is Art's list, not yours. He makes the rules. > Michael > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
on 3/12/06 8:22 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am for 2 AD post for week, one its many few, seen > for ebay auctions if ended in 3 days... > Matteo -- You can be "For" whatever you like, Mateo. However, this is Art's list, not yours. He makes the rules. Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Empty quarter expedition
Hi Joseph, List, I don't appreciate Professor Albert Matter's assertion about Oman: "Collectors though, he said, had robbed the desert of its heritage simply for money and not for scientific research." Bad style. The "collecors" always did an excellent fieldwork there, meticulously recording and documenting all find data, different from the NWA-situation. With the retrieved coordinates strewnfields could be mapped (also that, where the Suisse team found their Mars later), innumerable samples of exotic and common types were made accessible to labs, and that at no costs, all in all an invaluable gain for research and science. The private hunting teams did all this without any financial support and with high financial risks. Until 2 years ago, the Omanis demonstrated no increased concern in their meteorites at all and issued export permits for the stones too. If Prof.Matter took exception to other teams hunting there, he should have earlier cared for the restrictions to become operative, which should have been possible as the Suisse universities are working together with the Omani for more than 30 years. Though, if this would have been a service rendered to science and research, I personally strongly doubt. I haven't the data of the Suisse finds (anywhere a list available?), but I read that all their expeditions from 2001-2003 resulted in a mere number of only 200 different meteorites. The parallely hunting private teams were ways more successful. If I take a look on the score card for lunaites from Oman, I find there the SaU 169 found by the Suisse expeditions with 206 grams, while the depredators recovered 11 different Moons in Oman with a total weight of 3956 grams, meaning that with the for the classification required deposit material, they made available for research 3 or 4 times more lunar material from much more different falls than the Suisse teams did and this again at no costs. The records for Martians: Suisse teams: 1 - 233g; Private teams: 3 - 12,084g (I chose Mars&Moon as examples, because they were highlighted on the websites in Switzerland, but I guess with other rare types the ratios will be similar). Unfortunately the publications database of the University of Bern is out of order ( http://www.geo.unibe.ch/english/scientificworks.htm ), but in past they had there no remorse to carry out research and analysis on such "robbed" "heritage" like NWA-meteorites (e.g. NWA 031, NWA 773, NWA 176, DaG 262 or even stones from Oman found by commercial hunters like e.g. Dhofar 081.) Also in the collection of the Natural History Museum of Bern, are found several specimens fitting to Prof.Matter's accusation, as there are held samples of Acfers, NWAs, DaGs and from Oman SaU 005 and Dho 378, all not found by the Suisse teams. (Btw. Prof.Matters seems to have no concerns about commercialism, when he's publishing in the GeoArabia journal, which is sponsored by such corporations like BP, Shell, Chevron, ExxonMobil, Total, Saudi Aramco.) I can understand, that Prof.Matter is furious about the hunters, who nowadays don't respect the newer legal situation in Oman, but this justifies not to disavow and to criminalize the hunting teams, which were active before, with such an undifferentiated statement in public. He should rather demonstrate the respect, which is due to the other teams with their enormous quantity and quality of finds, which they made accessible for research. I don't want to impute petty jealousies to him, that the other teams were much more successful or that because of the long cooperation between Suisse and Omani institutions he might tend to think that all finds should have been researched by the university of Bern, really not, and I'm sure that if he looks a little bit back in the history of meteoritics and also to other countries than Oman in present, then he will recognise, that with exception of the Antarctic meteorites practically all meteorites where brought to light and were delivered to science almost solely by private individuals and initiatives. I thought that this hollow and artificial conflict about private hunting vs. institutional research was negotiated long ago, and I really wonder that this issue is rehashed again. But perhaps he was misquoted (I can't imagine, that a professional meteoricist with his knowledge and insights would launch such a silly statement)? In this case my mail here would be of course unfonded and meaningless. If I were in the place of Prof.Matter I gladly would invite professional hunters, who demonstrated in past, that they are better trained and skilled than the Suisse team members in finding and recognizing rare types in the field, to join the Suisse expeditions. This would be the most promising solution. The Suisse team's finding quota would raise remarkably, the found meteorites would be completely reserved to research and as the hunters should be remunerated by contracts, they wouldn't have to throw away their finds below costs as it happe
Re: [meteorite-list] enough already
I am for 2 AD post for week, one its many few, seen for ebay auctions if ended in 3 days... Matteo --- Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > No offense Steve or anybody else, > > I just quoted a rule that Art made to prevent the > List from becoming a > "Spamfest". If everybody who sales meteorites > posted three to six times a > week which has been happening lately with a few > people then the List would > become overwhelmed. Art wisely made the rule, one > Ad posting per week. Some > people must feel they are better than everyone else > and have the right to > post as many advertisements as they want. I > personally find it distasteful > and offensive that Art's rules are not being > followed. Thanks to Art, > everybody has a place where they can share their > thoughts and discuss ideas. > Abuse this privilege and all we will have at our > disposal is a Spamfest. > > Take care and show some courtesy, > > Adam > > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Advice> Encyclopedia of Meteorites
Hello, I'm hardly working on my Online Encyclopedia of Meteorites project, filling thousands of files with as much information and pictures as possible. I would like to know what you would like in this kind of online encyclopedia. A remind : it will be a subscription system (not expensive) which will allow to view all meteorites and also help you for your collection catalog. Just tell me your ideas, what you want (don't want)... Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] last day of sale/I am sorry/AD
Good morning list.I have gotten some rather nasty emails about my continued spamming of the list with my sales.I do apologize for the continued mess.I was very stressed out when I did what I did.But after sometime out to reflect where I want to go,it became clear what is more important.PEOPLE!This is the last day of my sale,where from now till 9 pm chicago time,everything continues to be half price.I added 6 more nice pieces today,all half off and I will continue to pay for shipping.After this sale I will become invisible for a while.I will continue to go by art's rules.But lately I noticed othe r people have disobeyed them as well.Again I am sorry. steve arnold,chicago,usa Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT? Link to terminal fall velocities of hail, rain, and snow w/kill rates for hail
List, Here is the link. My computer is not working properly so I cannot send all of the links that pertain to this topic. Delete if you wish. Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo http://atlantic.evsc.virginia.edu/publications/ced/ced/36 ÖÌV[gJbg Ó: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vOÉæÁÄW°çêÄ¢éêª èÜ·BYtªÇÌæ¤É³êé©ð»è·éÉÍAdq __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
