[meteorite-list] Re: Ebay 20 mil Meteorite...
Hello Everyone!..I'm new to the list,but I have conversed with a few of you..:),I'm just an Amateur rockhound/meteorite enthusiast, anyway's..I have a chip of that Rock on Ebay.."martian" that he want's to much for?..the one from New Hamshire?..I think we're talking about the same one.anyway's the owner graciously sent me a nice chip for my study.It's Highly? magnetic,both with an Neodymium magnet,and your basic fridge magnet.It contain's metal,that look's like nickel.most of the material is a "soft" green material,that I can't place...remind's me of Gypsom..there also appear's to be silicates.it's a real mixed up stone!..my initial thought's were volcanic..but it could be a Meteorite?..I'm willing to have my chip tested..if anybody will point me in the right direction?...thanks!..Kevin W.Decker. Join the new Messenger beta now __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cometshop
Its many time I not seen big pieces of sikhote on ebay, max 100 grams or under pieces...the last 2 I have seen of 1.5 and 7.6 kg. I have buy personaly all 2. Matteo --- Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > >From what I heard from two independent sources, we > will not being seeing any > bulk Sikhotes Alins lots or material from Oman from > the Russians at any more > shows. If true, which I have no reason to doubt, > that means no more going > through kilos of Sikhotes in Denver, Tucson and > other shows on the venue. It > was a lot of fun searching the SA lots even though > less and less has been > coming out the last few years. > > It seems that the confiscation of Chinese fossils > and meteorites (Nantan) in > Australia started something. Then the problems with > fossils in Tucson being > repatriated with their respective countries. Now > pieces from Oman are being > returned. What next? > > If anybody has a more detailed assessment of the > situation, I would sure > like to hear it. I would like to have first-hand > information before getting > into too many details. > > Take Care, > > Adam > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Marcin Cimala - PolandMET" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:02 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Cometshop > > > > Hi > > What happend to Cometshop of Sergey Afanasjev ? > > > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- > > http://www.Meteoryt.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.PolandMET.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 > > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society > ] > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 20 Million $$$ Mars Meteorite
Hello All, I have made an appointment, weekend after this one, to visit the people who have this thing on eBay for $20mil. I will bring my closeup digital camera and rare earth magnets. There is a piece sliced off so I'll get closeups of the inner composition too. Can anyone thing of anything else I should bring/do/ask? This should be an interesting visit... Gary Foote http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Greetings
Hello everyone, my name is Luke Hill, i'm 21 and i currently live in London, UK. I am new to meteor collecting and hope to perhaps do my first search at some point but i just wanted to say that it's great being on this list because of all the different things i've learned already, smelly meteors, unexplained explosions etc it's all great stuff and i hope to learn alot from this mailing list. So anyway i just wanted to say hello and i hope everyone is well. CiaoLuke __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- Pultusk 136 gram endcut and others
Hello all Here are a few ending Saturday eve http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnakhladog Also, the website has been updated with lots of new material, have a peek http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite-Times Update
Dear List, Jim and I have completed all of our major new features to Meteorite-Times with the last changes being a new pop-up dictionary available starting in the May issue and the last being a URL change that will hopefully benefit the magazine in the long term. Our original URL is being redirected to our new URL of www.meteorite-times.com so all old links will still work and arrive at new URL of the magazine until they are updated. We would like to ask 2 favors of everyone. 1. Please update your bookmarks to reflect our new URL of www.meteorite-times.com 2. Please add our link to your site. New URL: http://www.meteorite-times.com If you would like to add our graphic please see the following page http://www.meteorite-times.com/link_exchange.htm Thank you very much - we appreciate all your support! Paul and Jim __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Category Chart (Spring 2006) PDF available
The Spring 2006 chart is available...in PDF download from http://notsafe.org/Meteteorite Categories SP06.pdf Please send feedback/corrections to Dale Lowdermilk addressed at [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite strikes Nakhla Dog and others
Sorry, this message doesn`t seem to be going through. If you happen to get it twice sorry. --- drtanuki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:52:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: drtanuki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Fwd: Meteorite strikes Nakhla Dog and > others > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > Dear List: > > I thought no dog was ever killed by the Nakhla > meteorite; but this link tells a different story! > > > http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/cfa/ps/icq/meteorites.html > > I wonder how could the Tunguska event could have > killed > humans when the area is very sparsely populated? > Also I though that it was only the Sylacauga > Meteorite which hurt a human being? > > This list has several interesting? entries and > > errors. > Several meteorites hitting houses, a ship and > others > are missing, especially Japan. > > Here is another interesting link: > > http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metstruck.html > > On some points these links contradict each > other > > Perhaps someone has the time to sort out the facts > from fiction and correct the errors in the Harvard > page and submit it. > >Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Two Brenham Meteorites Recovered, April 2006
Hello Everyone, Yesterday I watched while two Brenham meteorites, ~100 lbs, were pulled from their longtime resting place, each about 4-5 feet in the ground, by Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. Sonny Clary I eye watched, along with landowners and a few locals. A TV network had a crew down which filmed it for an upcoming show on the Travel channel, while some of the Wichita, Kansas media ran newslines on the finds. I missed the channel 3 (ABC) news so I am not sure if they ran what they filmed. Channel 12 (cbs) ran a segment yesterday at 6pm and 10pm, and again in the pre-morning news. A local radio station, KFDI, interviewed me and ran a segment in their news. Perhaps the 12th time for Steve to make news here locally with his Brenham finds. I have a bunch of videos and pictures linked to the following web page. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/brenham06.html\ Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite strikes Nakhla Dog and others
Dear List: I thought no dog was ever killed by the Nakhla meteorite; but this link tells a different story! http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/cfa/ps/icq/meteorites.html I wonder how could the Tunguska event could have killed humans when the area is very sparsely populated? Also I though that it was only the Sylacauga Meteorite which hurt a human being? This list has several interesting? entries and errors. Several meteorites hitting houses, a ship and others are missing, especially Japan. Here is another interesting link: http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metstruck.html On some points these links contradict each other Perhaps someone has the time to sort out the facts from fiction and correct the errors in the Harvard page and submit it. Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unexplained Explosion Heard in Romania
Hi list The boom was heard over few hundred kilometers across Bacau, Neamt, Vrancea and Harghita districts. There were some eye witnesses seing the meteorite falling in a forrest nearby Comanesti. I spoked with my friends from the local astronomy club and a team is curently searching the area to find the meteorite. I'll go there after the Easter to help hunting. I'll come back with news asap. Andrei http://www.evenimentul.ro/articol/bacaul-a-fost-zdruncinat-de-o-bubuitura-misterioasa.html - Original Message - From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:13 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Unexplained Explosion Heard in Romania http://www.daily-news.ro/article_detail.php?idarticle=25453 Unidentified explosion in Bacau Andreea Pocotila Bucharest Daily News April 20, 2006 A strong blow was heard yesterday morning in the area of the Comanesti city, in Bacau County, but authorities were unable to explain what caused the sound that was heard from tens of kilometers around the town. Comanesti Mayor Viorel Miron said he believed the blow was a result of the activity of the nearby mining exploitation, but the checks revealed that was not true, as the mining companies said the explosion was not caused by them. The head of the police in the nearby town of Moinesti, Gelu Margina, also said the mining or the oil exploitation in the area did not announce any incidents. "Such situations occurred when a strong plane exceeded a certain height and is called a sonic boom," said Margina. However, the air units in the county did not announce any incident. "In our base there were no flights starting with Wednesday and there are no flights on the civil airport, either," said the public relations officer from the 95 Air Base in Bacau, Gelu Miron. He added that an army helicopter searched the area but found nothing to prove there has been an explosion. Viorel Miron said that locals recounted that a weird noise was heard before the explosion, like a large object falling from the sky. "Some even talked about a meteorite having caused the blow," said Miron. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ___ Connex scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind Trend Micro VirusWall. Connex automatically scans all messages for viruses using Trend Micro VirusWall. ___ Nota: Este posibil ca produsul Trend Micro VirusWall sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cind deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru orice prejudiciu cauzat de decizia dvs. Disclaimer: It is possible that the Trend Micro VirusWall product may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by your decision to do so. ___ Connex scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind Trend Micro VirusWall. Connex automatically scans all messages for viruses using Trend Micro VirusWall. ___ Nota: Este posibil ca produsul Trend Micro VirusWall sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cind deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru orice prejudiciu cauzat de decizia dvs. Disclaimer: It is possible that the Trend Micro VirusWall product may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by your decision to do so. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite strikes
Dear List:I thought no dog was ever killed by the Nakhlameteorite; but this link tells a different story!http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/cfa/ps/icq/meteorites.htmlI wonder how could the Tunguska event could have killedhumans when the area is very sparsely populated? AlsoI though that it was only the Sylacauga Meteoritewhich hurt a human being. This list has several interesting? entries. Several meteorites hitting houses, a ship and others are missing, especially Japan.Here is another interesting link:http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metstruck.htmlOn some points these links contradict each other Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ad Ebay auctions ending soon: old rare stuff etc.
http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=zagami Howdy Folks, Just a brief heads-up that my auctions of old, rare, often small stuff on ebay is ending soon. A couple noteworthy pieces include a Parnallee LL3 slice, Kesen Japan slice, Shelbourne Canada crusted fragment, 14g Nuevo Mercurio individual, Klamath Falls Oregon iron slice, an amazing slice of Pillistfer from the Bob Haag collection (including documentation) and a few others including Shalka, Orgueil, Lemmon, Sardis, Marion, Mills, Tromoya, Soko-Banja, NEA001, Loomis, Limerick, Nadibondi, Butsura, Beardsley, Axtell, Kivesvaara, Boxhole, Alamogordo, Bath, Arcadia, Canyon Diablo spheroids, Juuvinas, Collescipoli,etc. See them at: http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=zagami Cheers, Martin http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=zagami __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] One-Of-A-Kind Meteorite Unveiled (Tagish Lake)
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-04/uoa-omu042106.php Public release date: 21-Apr-2006 Contact: Beverly Betkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 780-492-3808 University of Alberta One-of-a-kind meteorite unveiled Edmonton, Alberta, Canada -- The depths of space are much closer to home following the University of Alberta's acquisition of a meteorite that is the only one of its kind known to exist on Earth! What makes it so rare? The meteorite is 'pristine' - that is, still frozen and uncontaminated - and so provides an invaluable preserved record of material from when the solar system formed 4.57 billion years ago. The Tagish Lake Meteorite is carbonaceous chondrite and, as such, represents primitive material from which the solar system formed. The meteorite is rich in pre-solar grains - grains from other stars that were present near our solar system when it formed. The meteorite contains primitive molecules that are the building blocks of the components necessary for life. The pristine state of the meteorite makes it especially important for scientific research purposes; it presents an unprecedented opportunity to look for extraterrestrial ices. The University of Alberta, through the Department of Museums and Collections Services and the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, led a consortium of partners that, together, acquired the pristine samples for mutual research and heritage interests. These partners include the Department of Canadian Heritage, the Royal Ontario Museum, Natural Resources Canada, and the Canadian Space Agency. Dr. Christopher Herd, the Curator of the University of Alberta Meteorite Collection, will lead future research on the University's approximately 650 grams of this unique extraterrestrial rock. "What's fascinating about the Tagish Lake Meteorite is that it enables us to probe the farthest reaches of our solar system by studying material that has come to us,' noted Dr. Herd, a professor of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Alberta. The study of the meteorite has the potential for revolutionizing our understanding of the formation of the solar system. The meteorite fell on the frozen surface of Tagish Lake, northern BC, in Canada on January 18, 2000. ### The University of Alberta is home to Canada's second-largest meteorite collection. Most recently, Dr. Herd has established a research program in the study of meteorites from Mars; research in meteorites in the collection and others on loan to the University continues to this day. Expertise in other areas of space research reside on campus ranging from the history of space exploration to the formation of dust devils on Mars, and spanning the humanities, engineering and the sciences. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new eucrite NWA 3159
I second that, got my partslice with vesicles, flowing rock and fresh rock fragments yesterday. Now I'm looking forward to see some scientific reports on this meteorite as I have a lot of questions. How did it form? What was the cooling rate / burial depth. When did it form? What gas made the vesicles? The vesicles in the flowing part makes me guess that it solidified on a very shallow depth. But I'm only an amateur (read the book "Meteorites and their parent planets" during the easter holiday) so what do I know. Right now this slice is my pocket rock as I brought it to work to show a friend. :-) /Göran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello friends, today arrived my slice of NWA3159 I got from Greg Hupe. WOW, this is one of the best eucrites I have ever seen. Best regards Hanno Strufe Langenbergstrasse 32 66954 Pirmasens Germany IMCA # 4267 www.strufe.net __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Two More Meteorites Found in Kansas
http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/2671991.html Two More Meteorites Found In Kiowa County KAKE News April 20, 2006 Meteorite madness hitting Kansas with two major discoveries Thursday. The Kansas meteorite hunter is building up quite a collection. These massive objects from space are worth quite a bit of cash, but he says it's the data they provide that is priceless. It's a painstaking search. Meteorite hunter Steve Arnold uses a simple metal detector to pinpoint the space rocks in a Kiowa County farmfield. Nine times out of ten, he finds nothing in the holes. "A lot are what we call meteor wrongs, but every once in a while we end up with a meterorite," said Arnold. Thursday was one of those days where all that hard work paid off. Arnold dug up two palisite meteors weighing in at 83 and 93 pounds. "It's like Christmas, you know there's a present under the tree, you just don't know what it is," said Arnold. Arnold and his partner have been working over the land for the past six months. These two make number 17 and 18 in their growing collection. These rocks can fetch hundreds of thousands of dollars on the market. You may remember it was back in November that Arnold made the find of a lifetime. The 1,400 pound palisite contained nickel, iron and valuable gemstone. It's the largest of its type in the U.S, and is worth more than a million bucks. "It's just a matter of searching the land to find the pieces remaining," said Arnold. His search is now getting quite a bit of attention. A new show for the Travel Channel is out there shooting an episode. Arnold believes the meteors are all broken off from one very large meteor that hit the area millions of years ago. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Danger of Asteroid Strikes
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20060421/46773736.html The danger of asteroid strikes Yury Zaitsev RIA Novosti April 21, 2006 MOSCOW - Colonel General Vladimir Popovkin, commander of the Russian Space Force, told a news conference that the national satellite cluster lacked a spacecraft capable of preventing an asteroid strike. He said that chances of such a collision were infinitely small, and that it was inexpedient to spend huge sums on neutralizing this unlikely threat. But it seems that the general may be underestimating the scale of the asteroid threat. Over the last few decades there has been a great deal of debate about the level of danger posed by impacts from asteroids and comets. It appears that the world needs to take the threat of asteroid strikes a lot more seriously. Astronomers have already spotted about 800 asteroids, solid rocky celestial bodies, with a diameter of over 1,000 m moving along circumsolar elliptical orbits. However, there may be as many as 2,000 large asteroids, and some 135,000 rocks with a diameter of 100 m and more. It should be noted that asteroid orbits are unstable and tend to change under the influence of gravitational fields of terrestrial-group planets, Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars. An asteroid, which flashed past our planet at a distance of 5 million km in November 1996, returned in September 2004 and flew by just 1.5 million km from the Earth's surface. In March 1989, a 300m asteroid crossed the terrestrial orbit and missed the Earth by just six hours. Astronomers spotted the rock only when it was receding into space. An asteroid measuring over 1,000 m in diameter is potentially capable of destroying human civilization. Chances of a major asteroid impact in the 21st century are a mere 0.0002%, while there is a 2% probability of the Earth colliding with a 100m asteroid before 2100. The blast would equal to 100 Mtons in trinitrotoluol equivalent and kill millions of people if it hits a vast industrial region with many hazardous enterprises. Scientists are quite alarmed because they register additional asteroids buzzing the Earth. Spaceguard Survey, an international service responsible for detecting and tracking potentially dangerous space objects, has now been established. Russia established the Space Shield Foundation (SSF) east of the Urals. The organization involved scientists from the Snezhinsk (Chelyabinsk-70) nuclear center and the Makeev State Rocket Center (Miass). The foundation eventually set up subsidiaries in Novosibirsk and Korolev, outside Moscow. The Planetary Defense Center, which was established in Russia three years ago, comprises the best defense-industry facilities, aerospace enterprises, in the first place, as well as academic and sectoral research. Scientists say that the best way to cope with the asteroid problem is to register and observe all potentially dangerous space objects. However, it is not enough to spot an asteroid because most of them have unstable orbits; consequently, such asteroids may disappear later on. Every terrestrial hemisphere must therefore have three or four telescopes with primary mirrors 4-5 m in diameter for observing asteroids round the clock. Such observations would make it possible to catalog asteroids with a diameter of less than 1,000 m. Many observatories, Russian observatories included, are now working on the asteroid catalog. Scientists claim that it would become possible to warn about impending asteroid strikes 80 to 100 years in advance if 90% of asteroids are registered, and in case of regular observations. But long-term asteroid protection is still in the realm of science fiction. There are two scenarios for shielding this planet from a dangerous space object. First, any "hostile" object can be shattered in deep space, before it reaches the Earth. Second, its orbit can be changed, so that the asteroid steers clear of our planet. Some scientists believe that a nuclear device could be detonated on the asteroid's surface or in direct proximity to it. Consequently, it would become possible either to shatter that asteroid, whose fragments may still threaten the Earth. On the other hand, a nuclear explosion near the asteroid would heat up one of its sides and vaporize large segments. The resulting explosion would change the asteroid's flight path. Technically speaking, a powerful nuclear explosion can change the orbit of the asteroid several months before it impacts the planet. Russian scientists suggest using the kinetic energy of asteroids in order to destroy them. This can be accomplished by creating an artificial dust cloud in the asteroid's path. That cloud's particles would interact with the asteroid surface and gouge craters. The dangerous object would finally disintegrate because the mass of crater particles would be directly proportional to the kinetic energy of colliding bodies. The United States demonstrated this effective method on July 4, 2005, when pa
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 17-20, 2006
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES April 17-20, 2006 o Feature of the Week: Mamers Valles http://themis.asu.edu/feature o Small Dunes (Released 17 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060417a o Wall Failure (Released 18 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060418a o Channel Landslide (Released 19 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060419a o Winding Channel (Released 20 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060420a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lessons from an Odd Kuiper Belt Object (2003 EL61)
http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1716_1.asp Lessons from an Odd Kuiper Belt Object By David Tytell Sky & Telescope April 20, 2006 To date astronomers have found more than 1,000 Kuiper Belt objects (KBOs) beyond Neptune, and the strangest one of all might just be the key to understanding how the largest of these distant ice-rock bodies acquire their moons. Last July, 2003 EL61 entered the KBO lexicon just days before the "10th planet," 2003 UB313. But follow-up observations of 2003 EL61 left astronomers scratching their heads. Its spin period is just 3.9 hours, making 2003 EL61 the fastest rotating known body in our solar system larger than 100 kilometers (60 miles) across. As for its shape, picture a squashed American football. Models suggest that 2003 EL61's long dimension could exceed both Pluto's and 2003 UB313's diameters. The body also has two small satellites: an inner moon with a 34.7-day non-circular orbit and a brighter, outer companion with a 49.1-day circular orbit. Observations of the primary body made by Chadwick Trujillo (Gemini Observatory) and his colleagues reveal the strong spectral signature of crystalline water ice. This is odd because crystalline ice forms at temperatures above 110 kelvins (-163°C) whereas the ambient temperature of space around 2003 EL61 is less than 50 K. Moreover, crystalline water ice typically lasts only 10 million years before it's destroyed, which points to possible resurfacing, perhaps by micrometeorite impacts converting existing surface ices to crystalline form by flash-heating. Spectra of the outer satellite obtained by Kristina Barkume, Michael Brown, and Emily Schaller (Caltech) reveal the signature of almost pure water ice. While the observations were too low in resolution to distinguish the type of water ice, it seems that nearly all of the moon is coated in frost. Putting the pieces together, 2003 EL61 strongly suggests that the moons of the largest KBOs differ in origin from those of ordinary KBOs. The satellite systems of the larger objects formed from the remains of violent impacts instead of by delicate gravitational capture. According to Brown, "[2003 EL61] itself is rapidly rotating and thus elongated - a predicted consequence of a giant impact which forms a small satellite." Moreover, he adds, other astronomers have predicted that "small satellites, which form from disks, will be made almost entirely of water ice, which is precisely what we see." Impact is already a favored formation mechanism for another large KBO system - Pluto and its three moons. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Daughters of Deep Impact: Two University of Maryland-Proposed Missions Could Help Clear Suddenly Clouded Comet Picture
http://newswire.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/behold.pl?ascribeid=20060420.094212&time=10%2004%20PDT&year=2006&public=0 Daughters of Deep Impact: Two University of Maryland-Proposed Missions Could Help Clear Suddenly Clouded Comet Picture COLLEGE PARK, Md., April 20 (AScribe Newswire) -- Over the past five years, three space missions -- Deep Impact, Deep Space 1 and Stardust -- have provided unprecedented information about comets. However, rather than clearing up the true nature of comets, the sometimes conflicting data from these missions have scientists questioning almost everything they thought they knew about these fascinating -- and potentially dangerous -- objects. Now, the University of Maryland-led team that produced the spectacular Deep Impact mission is proposing two new missions that they think can help coalesce the cloud of cometary information into solid ideas about the nature of comets, how they formed, how they have evolved and what role, if any, they may have played in the emergence of life on Earth. Both missions would build on the highly successful Deep Impact mission that on July 4th 2005 smashed a probe into Tempel 1 to reveal that comet's interior, its fluffy structure and weak materials. Deep Impact was the first large scale experiment ever conducted on a comet. The proposed new missions are called DeepR and DIXI. DeepR (Deep-Rosetta) would clone the Deep Impact mission, building identical flyby and impactor spacecraft and targeting comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko (C-G), the destination of the European Space Agency's currently-in-route Rosetta mission. DIXI, which stands for Deep Impact eXtended Investigation, would use the surviving Deep Impact spacecraft and its three working instruments (two color cameras and an IR spectrometer) for a flyby of Comet Boethin in December 2008. Like Deep Impact, DeepR and DIXI would be a partnership between the University of Maryland, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), and Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corporation. "One of the great surprises of comet explorations has been the wide diversity among the different cometary surfaces imaged to date," said Deep Impact leader and University of Maryland astronomer Michael A'Hearn, who would be principle investigator (PI) for DIXI and deputy PI for DeepR. "Even on Tempel 1, the comet we've imaged the best, there is shocking variability in its surface. The comet's different surface types clearly have undergone different histories." "These proposed missions are very cost effective ways to provide new results that can be directly compared to the landmark Deep Impact findings as well as with the results of Deep Space 1 and Stardust," said A'Hearn. Jessica Sunshine, an adjunct professor of astronomy at Maryland who would be the principle investigator for the DeepR mission and deputy PI for DIXI, said, "By giving us high quality comparable data on two additional Jupiter class comets, these missions will help us figure out which characteristics of structure and composition are common among comets and which are more individual or distinctive characteristics." A'Hearn, Sunshine and the other University of Maryland scientists who would be part of the missions say the data that would be obtained from these two missions would also will help scientists determine which characteristics of comet structure and composition are primordial, reflecting conditions and processes that existed 4.5 billion years ago when the solar system formed, and which are the result of evolutionary forces (heating and cooling, impacts, etc.) that have acted on comets since that time. "Data from comets can help us to better understand the origin of the solar system, as well as what role, if any, comets may have played in the emergence of life on Earth," said Sunshine, who is a member of the Deep Impact science team. "However, we first must know which cometary characteristics are due to evolution and which are primordial." Making a Deep-R Impact Results from Deep Space 1, Stardust, and the Deep Impact experiment at comet 9P/Tempel 1 fundamentally challenge the existing paradigms on cometary formation, composition, and evolution. The DeepR (Deep Rosetta) mission will fly a build-to-print clone of the highly successful Deep Impact mission to an encounter with comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko, which is the current destination of Rosetta, a mission of the European Space Agency (ESA). Employing the experimental approach defined by Deep Impact mission, the DeepR mission would deliver to comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko an impactor that would collide with the comet at some 22,000 miles an hour (10 km/s) on July 29, 2015. The collision will expose the interior of 67P/ Churyumov-Gerasimenko to examination by a comprehensive set of instruments from both the DeepR flyby spacecraft and ESA's flagship-class Rosetta mission. These instruments will monitor the impact fro
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite odours
I must say I have never noticed smells from meteorites but this week I have run an exhibition which included several large meteorite samples. What I estimate to be over a third of the people who saw and handled them -and there were several hundred people involved - said they did smell funny. Funny is about as good as I got out of them, they are all teenagers, after all. The Henbury and Murchison ones were the ones which seemed to be in posession of the most "nose". I can personally attest that a type 7 Eucrite has a dry, clay like flavour with nuances of metalic. Yes I tasted it. Can you honestly say you never tasted one of your meteorites "just to see"? Rob McC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cometshop
>From what I heard from two independent sources, we will not being seeing any bulk Sikhotes Alins lots or material from Oman from the Russians at any more shows. If true, which I have no reason to doubt, that means no more going through kilos of Sikhotes in Denver, Tucson and other shows on the venue. It was a lot of fun searching the SA lots even though less and less has been coming out the last few years. It seems that the confiscation of Chinese fossils and meteorites (Nantan) in Australia started something. Then the problems with fossils in Tucson being repatriated with their respective countries. Now pieces from Oman are being returned. What next? If anybody has a more detailed assessment of the situation, I would sure like to hear it. I would like to have first-hand information before getting into too many details. Take Care, Adam - Original Message - From: "Marcin Cimala - PolandMET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Cometshop > Hi > What happend to Cometshop of Sergey Afanasjev ? > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New to list - an introduction
Hi Mike, Welcome back to meteorites and Welcome aboard! It is good to have a few more collectors around in Washington State. One of my main goals is to find the sixth meteorite every found in this state. I believe I found a very small one some time back in Lake Washington with a magnetic sluice box but was told it was not a meteorite and lost the chain of custody. A few years later I polished an edge and saw what I thought to be a chondrule so I resubmitted it for classification and it did turn out to be a meteorite. The problem is, even though I clearly remember finding it and had another hunter with me, I can not say with 100% certainty that it might not have been accidentally switched with another piece in my collection since I did not keep perfect accounting of the specimen. Memories are not accurate enough to make such a claim so I will continue to search. Now, I take several images on the spot of everything I find with a GPS in the picture and label it immediately. Unfortunately with thousands of hours in the field in this state I have never been able to find another one. That is why I like to go to the Mojave where you are almost guaranteed to find something if you spend enough time. What I did find was a great excuse to get some exercise, relaxation and met a heck of a lot of good people. Enough about my unsuccessful experiences hunting this state, I hope you enjoy the information you glean from this List. Kind Regards, Adam HupeThe Hupe CollectionTeam LunarRockIMCA 2185[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike Bandli To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:39 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New to list - an introduction Hello List, Im new to the list, but not new to meteorites, and I thought I would take this first post to introduce myself. My name is Mike Bandli and I live in Washington State. I started collecting and learning about meteorites in the 90s, but took a 5 year break from the hobby to pursue another unusual (and expensive) hobby of collecting Space Program Hardware. I have a large collection of flown and unflown hardware from Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and the Space Shuttle. Over the last year Ive decided to flip-flop and take a break from Space Hardware and focus back on meteorites, which is my real passion. Anyway, in a nutshell, that is who I am. I look forward to talking to you all in the future! Cheers, Mike Bandli __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] mike cottingham email me
Mike: You were inquiring about a piece, but left me no email. Please contact me via this address. Thanks. -- <><><><><> Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] odour
I have a part slice of NWA 096 (H3.8) that when I first got it in Tucson a few years ago, smelled just like bubblegum! The odor has since gone away. David H. --- Armando Afonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > I have been in contact with the persons who found the Ourique meteorite, and > all of them refered the initial strong sulfur smell of the stones, now > inexistent. > The specimens seam to be less magnetic now than when they were fresh, too. > I would say that this indicates the presence of an iron sulfur (Troilite?), > that progressively oxidated. > AA. > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] re:Odour of meteorites
Hi, Yep certain falls definitely have an odor, even O'C's have a metallic smell (to me anyway!?)it seems to be strongest after cutting, so I wonder if some of it is actually just the fine dust left over from the cutting process? I once tried to train my dog (Cleo) to recognize an Allende meteorite from a piece of ordinary rock, No, I am not mad -it was just for fun, as I was taking her to dog training classes at the time!! She could get it right in 70% of cases, which wasn't bad, though I am not of course, sure if other factors where involved, but a dog's sense of smell really is amazing. Though not sure I would use a dog to hunt for meteorites, far too many other interesting things for them to eat/sniff/pee on!! Best! Mark Ford -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Harris Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:29 PM To: metlist Subject: [meteorite-list] re:Odour of meteorites Hi, I too have noticed that when I open my membrane box with my Murchison specimen, it has an interesting odour - reminds me of my organic chemistry experiments at Uni - mainly with aldehydes and ether. I did wonder if it was the cutting lubricant though that was responsible for the odour and not the kerogens associated with the space rock itself, although when Murchison fell, there was a lot of comments from the residents regarding the odour left in the air. What I need is a nice whole specimen and I'll crack it up in a bag with a hammer and huff in the contents!!! When I come down frmo my space trip, I ll get my bloods analysed! Best! dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Odour of meteorites
Hello again, I almost forgot one other aspect of meteorite smells. After you grind or polish just about any chondrite, the freshly ground surface smells of sulfur, undoubtably from troilite. Bob mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Odour of meteorites
Good Evening List, I have an 80 gram Murchison specimen that I keep under a bell jar. When I lift the jar it contains the aroma of a fine whisky. With 98 identified amino acids and 13% water by volume perhaps this explains this wonderful smell. I never tire of it. All the best, Greg Greg Redfern NASA JPL Solar System Ambassador http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/ambassador/index.ht ml WHAT'S UP?: THE SPACE PLACE http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=600113&nid=421 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:01 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Odour of meteorites Hi, I have a piece of the famous bubble-gum smelling meteorite NWA 096, which to me smelled more like perfume. That was a few years ago; sadly the smell is gone. Irons, especially if they are rusting, have a pungent, acidic odor. Chondrites generally smell "dusty" to me with a shades of earthiness like rocks under hot sun. Occasionally you can smell the metal in them too, again especially if there is significant rusting. A slice of Allende I got from Bob Haag years back still smells like a strange mix of gunpowder and car exhaust. My two nosefuls (yuck, sorry ;-) Bob mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Los Alamos Scientists Hope Two Asteroids Offer Insight to the Origins of the Solar System (Dawn)
http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw_science/article/0,2668,ALBQ_21236_4633359,00.html Los Alamos scientists hope two asteroids offer insight to the origins of the solar system By Sue Vorenberg The Albuquerque Tribune April 19, 2006 Trying to see what our solar system looked like before there were planets is a bit like trying to find what was first drawn on a 20-year-old Etch A Sketch. Volcanoes, plate tectonics, strikes from meteors and other geologic activity has shaken the oldest rocks on planets like the Earth and Mars so that almost nothing is left of the original asteroids and other materials that formed them 4.5 billion years ago. But there are a few places where the solar system's oldest rocks remain and can give clues to what the solar system looked like before there were planets. Los Alamos National Laboratory has designed a gadget that will help the National Aeronautics and Space Administration see the history of those rocks after a new spacecraft travels to them. The gadget, called GRAND, is part of the Dawn Mission, which will visit Vesta and Ceres, the two biggest asteroids in the asteroid belt located between Mars and Jupiter. The mission - projected to cost between $425 million and $450 million - has had a lot of starts and stops along the way since it was first proposed in 1998. Last month, NASA decided to give final approval for it to go forward. The Dawn spacecraft is set for launch sometime between June and August 2007. "Vesta is really interesting," said Tom Prettyman, a Los Alamos scientist working on the mission. "It's thought to be the source of a special type of meteorites found on Earth." If scientists can confirm Vesta as the source of those meteorites, they could study them as if they were samples returned from the asteroid, Prettyman said. The composition of those rocks - how much iron, magnesium and other elements they have inside them - can tell scientists more about the types of rocks floating around when the solar system first formed out of debris in what scientists call a molecular cloud. Los Alamos' GRAND - which stands for Gamma Ray and Neutron Spectrometer for Dawn - is a shoe-box-sized, 30-pound detector that can see which elements are present on the asteroids and how those elements are interacting with radioactive forces in space. The mission also includes instruments from Germany and Italy that will collect other types of data and take pictures of the asteroids for scientific analysis, Prettyman said. Gathering data about the two asteroids, in turn, can help scientists understand more about the early solar system, Prettyman said. "The present thinking is that our solar system was formed from a giant molecular cloud, very much like clouds you can see out there with the Hubble Space Telescope," Prettyman said. "The thought is solar systems form when a cloud is in the area of a giant supernova, and the supernova essentially triggers the collapse of the cloud." As the cloud collapses, material in it and elements from the supernova bunch together into small clumps that, over millions of years, mash together to form planets. In the inner parts of the solar system, warmer and closer to the sun, heavier elements such as iron, aluminum and magnesium form into rocky planets like Earth, Venus and Mars. In the outer parts of the solar system, where it's cold enough for liquid water or solid water to form, gas giants made of clumped ice and gasses form planets like Jupiter and Saturn. Somewhere in between is what scientists call the dew line - the line where rocky planets stop and icy planets start. Prettyman and others theorize the dew line could be somewhere in the asteroid belt between Ceres and Vesta, he said. The study of both asteroids should give scientists a better understanding of where the dew line is and what it looked like in the early solar system. The reason the rocks in the asteroid belt are so old and so ideal for study is that the planet Jupiter - through its gravitational pull - has kept debris in that area from merging into a planet. Jupiter formed in the first 20 million years or so of the solar system's history, so the thought is that rocks in that area are probably at least that old, said Bruce Barraclough, another Los Alamos scientist working on the mission. The study of our early solar system can also tell us a great deal about how other solar systems are forming, and ultimately about the types and scope of planets they might have, Prettyman said. Asteroid survey got a rocky start The first marker on the road to the oldest rocks in the solar system was a telling one for Tom Prettyman, a scientist at Los Alamos National Laboratory. He was set to head off to Washington, D.C., to present his first report on the lab's contribution to NASA's Dawn Mission - which will explore two asteroids that are nearly 4.5 billion years old - when he hit what looked like a big, depressing stop sign. "I was supposed to report on our results on Sept. 12
[meteorite-list] Unexplained Explosion Heard in Romania
http://www.daily-news.ro/article_detail.php?idarticle=25453 Unidentified explosion in Bacau Andreea Pocotila Bucharest Daily News April 20, 2006 A strong blow was heard yesterday morning in the area of the Comanesti city, in Bacau County, but authorities were unable to explain what caused the sound that was heard from tens of kilometers around the town. Comanesti Mayor Viorel Miron said he believed the blow was a result of the activity of the nearby mining exploitation, but the checks revealed that was not true, as the mining companies said the explosion was not caused by them. The head of the police in the nearby town of Moinesti, Gelu Margina, also said the mining or the oil exploitation in the area did not announce any incidents. "Such situations occurred when a strong plane exceeded a certain height and is called a sonic boom," said Margina. However, the air units in the county did not announce any incident. "In our base there were no flights starting with Wednesday and there are no flights on the civil airport, either," said the public relations officer from the 95 Air Base in Bacau, Gelu Miron. He added that an army helicopter searched the area but found nothing to prove there has been an explosion. Viorel Miron said that locals recounted that a weird noise was heard before the explosion, like a large object falling from the sky. "Some even talked about a meteorite having caused the blow," said Miron. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cometshop
Marcin Cimala - PolandMET wrote: Hi What happend to Cometshop of Sergey Afanasjev ? Maybe they're too busy making another new pallasite to sell to their customers. I know that's a mean thing to say, but I'm still out over $500 from Serge. I chalk it up to my own stupidity though. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes Mystery Meteorite - April answer
Hello all, For those interested, the answer for the April quiz can be found at: http://www.meteoriteimpact.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=295 All the best, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new eucrite NWA 3159
Hello friends, today arrived my slice of NWA3159 I got from Greg Hupe. WOW, this is one of the best eucrites I have ever seen. Best regards Hanno Strufe Langenbergstrasse 32 66954 Pirmasens Germany IMCA # 4267 www.strufe.net __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Category Chart (Spring 2006 update) available online
Anyone wanting a PDF copy of my latest update (Spring 2006) can download it from http://notsafe.org/Meteteorite Categories SP06.pdf Dale __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
