Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -Wednesday, November 22, 2006
Hi Mark and All, According to an analyse that was carried out on a piece of Sahara 02500 that was including such an inclusion, it was said to be an L5 structure (compared to the main structure of this meteorite that is L3. We do not know whether it is the case for all of them as Michel didn't ask for more study about them, but as a matter of fact, the one that was analysed was fefinitely not Eucritic. Just my two cents! Frederic Kayunwar (Michel Franco is IMCA member #3869 and Frederic Beroud is IMCA member #2491) http://www.caillou-noir.com/ - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -Wednesday,November 22, 2006 Any guesses/ideas what the white inclusion actually is? Surley it can't be Eucritic! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ..PolandMET.. Sent: 23 November 2006 00:45 To: 'Meteorite Mailing List' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -Wednesday,November 22, 2006 I was the lucky buyer for this stone. Thanks for the good deal Marcin! I wonder how far into the stone this inclusion will go. It would make for some interesting slices, but I would hate to cut it. Im the known butcher with no mercy, but this stone is tooo beautifull to cut. Im affraid that this is just a square fragment of something and there will be only 2-3 thin slices and then it dissapear. This whole stone have beautifull shape. It could be a sin to cut it :) By the way, check out Marcin's DaG949: http://www.polandmet.com/_dag949.htm I received my slice last week and it looks even better in person! Yes Its another curiosity. I just send sample for thin section and I hope that Silesia University can answer my question if this is 7mm crust or not. I'll inform list members what they will say about this. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II
Hi Doug, apropos Grimm bros. Did you know, that they mentioned a very famous meteorite in their collection of German folk tales (1816-1818)? Auch zeigt man auf dem Rathause zu Elbogen noch jetzt die verbannten ruchlosen und goldgeizigen Burggrafen in einem Klumpen klingenden Metall. Der Sage nach soll niemand, der mit einer Todsünde befleckt ist, diesen Klumpen in die Höhe heben können. Uuuh my poor English, a Matteo version could read like this: Also, in the townhall of Elbogen still today the banned heinous and gold-greedy burgraves are exhibited in a lump of clinking metal. Acording to legend nobody, who's imbrued by a capital sin, will be able to lift this lump. To translate the tale of the metamorphosis of the Burgrave into the meteorite, I leave to others (Peter, Bernd?): Der verwunschene Markgraf von Elbogen In grauer Vorzeit herrschte über Elbogen ein gar harter Mann, der Markgraf von Vohburg, der seine Untertanen und Diener, besonders die Bewohner der Robitsch einer Elbogener Gegend mit schwerem Frondienst bedrückte. Konnte einer den Willen des strengen Herren nicht nachkommen, wurde er sicherlich in den Turm geworfen und jämmerlich gezüchtigt. Über dem Haupttor der Burg ließ er eine Glocke befestigen, welche zur harten Arbeit rief. Zu Anfang ertönte sie wohl selten, später aber immer häufiger; denn der Markgraf wurde immer grausamer und habsüchtiger, das Mitleid schien gänzlich von ihm gewichen zu sein. Eines Sonntagmorgens stand er über dem Tor und beobachtete die in das nahe Gotteshaus wandelnden Scharen. Und es traf sich, dass eine arme Witwe ihm an diesem Tag eine Zahlung zu leisten hatte, sie hatte aber nichts, dass sie diese hätte entrichten können. Vielleicht, dachte sie, stimmt die heilige Sonntagsfeier den strengen Gebieter etwas zum Mitleid, und ging mit ihren unmündigen Kindern an der Hand, zu ihm hin und bat flehend um Nachsicht und Barmherzigkeit. Habet Erbarmen mit mir! Der Ernährer der Familie ist gestorben und die Arbeit meiner Hände reicht eben nur kümmerlich hin, mich und diese Waisen zu erhalten! Das Angesicht des Markgrafen verfinsterte sich bei der Rede wie der Himmel, der sich eben mit schweren Gewitterwolken umzog. Die arme Witwe bat nochmals und auch die Kleinen erhoben zu ihm ihre Hände. Doch das Herz des Herren blieb unbewegt und ließ sich durch den Jammer dieser Armen nicht erweichen. Zornesglut erfüllte sein Antlitz und seine Stimme donnerte auf sie herab: Hinweg aus meinen Augen! Zahle was Du schuldig bist, sonnst lasse ich Dich in den Turm werfen! Da raffte sich das Weib empor und rief, während das Donnern durch das Tal dröhnte, dem Fühllosen zu: Weh` Dir, Vohburg! In dieser Stunde noch wirst Du in Stein verwandelt werden. Ein Schrei scholl durch die Lüfte der Markgraf war verschwunden und dort, vor er stand, lag ein Klumpen der verwunschene Markgraf von Elbogen. from Stanilav Burachovic: Sagen der Karlsbader Landschaft Martin, on your special request: Buckleboo! --- STAR MONEY by the Bros. Altmann (jeje) A short fable summarized by our very favorite Germans, based on the original which was probably much older than the 1803 L'Aigle fall itself. Gives great insight to cultural fantasies of the significance of meteorites in the deep recesses of human thought. Interestingly, in an odd twist, it personifies what we all yearn in meteorite hunting in one form or another...READ THE ENGLISH translation free here, no need to buy the book, compiled by the namsake of Chladni's heirs: Story featured in Nation Geographic: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/grimm/star_money2.html Best wishes, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay auctions ending in 1 day
Dear All, Once again the week is about to end and once again our auctions as well. You have about 24 hours left to bid! To see this week's auctions, you simply need to click on: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZkayunwar You will see our selection of unclassified chondrites and some RARE items, such as: - EL AROUSS - L-IMB - 233.2g LARGE THIN SLICE: This is definitely a MUSEUM QUALITY piece, a way of qualifying it that I usually do not use, but this time... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130049099382 - SIKHOTE ALIN - 11.2g FLIGHT ORIENTED individual with beautiful thin FLOW LINES; you should at least have a look at it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130049099813 - TAZA (NWA 859) - 4.1g ORIENTED individual with a nice shield at the end that was directly exposed to air friction while falling through the earth's atmosphere: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130049100032 - OC #3469 - Unclassified Chondrite of 390g with fusion crust and nice regmaglypts, probably one of the nicest ones this week: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130049099012 I wish you all a nice week-end, Thanks for watching Good Luck. Kind regards, Frederic Kayunwar (Michel Franco is IMCA member #3869 and Frederic Beroud is IMCA member #2491) http://www.caillou-noir.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Looking for retail outlets for Man and Impact in the Americas
Hi all - I'm looking for retail outlets for Man and Impact in the Americas, so if any of you run retail outlets, here's the deal: While Man and Impact in the Americas is listed at $34.95 through the big boys, I like to make it available through the small guys for $24.95. I'll pick up the carrying costs - in other words consignment is fine, pay me when you sell it. I've found that at $24.95, if they see it, they buy it. I pick up fast mailing in US. Well, that's it. good hunting, Ed Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Forwarded mail from Carsten Giessler re: Baszkowka
Hello List, Carsten has problems with the mails he wants to send to the List. Seems he can't get through -so he's asked me to send it for him. Here it is: Hello List, I'm looking for a piece of Baszkowka, please contact me off-list if you have one for sale, thanks! Best greetings, Carsten. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II
Hi Martin, Thanks for the Buckleboo! It had become such a familiar part of the list, like an attention-getting favorite family member I started to miss it Now, whoever said German couldn't be a consonant language, hasn't read enough of Klumpen klingenden Metall and such. Those Grimm boys really provided a capsule of time, the scientists they were, so far ahead in educating toddling future meteoriticists. Thanks for the tale of the Bohemian iron Elbogen, the year assumed ca. 1400 witnessed fall that was recorded more as conversion of a greedy baron than a meteoritical tale. One wonders what Widmaenstatten was really out to discover when he stuck a slab of Elbogen in a Bunsen Burner to see what would happen. It must have been quite a BuckleBOO! for Widmaenstatten to see the steely Baron's jailbars and bones developing in the flame of that bewitching Klumpen of Metall. This relationship of meteorites to avariciousness and piousness illustrated here and in the Grimms' tale is pleasantly enlightening. One can see the original view of the of the Burggraf that Widmanstaetten saw courtesy of Jörn Koblitz here: http://www.metbase.de/printable/images/schreibers3_650.jpg And Chladni himself had an etched knife forged from Elbogen which is now at the Berlin Museum for any or all the motivated to see! http://euromin.w3sites.net/Nouveau_site/musees/berlin/Website-dt/Elbogen.html And another book to possibly add to the list: KNAGSTED by Gustev Wied Finally, here's another book you don't have to buy and can read online, Knagsted, by the Danish novelist Gustav Wied. That is, if you can at least read Rigsdansk... It was a satire published in 1902 and is based in part on the Elbogen legends... Excerpt: **Samt (hvad der er forbavsende interessant): Der verwünschte Burggraf (en ond og haard Borgherre, der in grauer Vorzeit paa Foranledning af sin Umenneskelighed og en fattig Kones indtrængende Bøn til Gud blev forvandlet til) ein ursprünglich 108 kg schwerer Meteorstein von der Gestalt eines Pferdekopfes. Gegenwürtig aber ist nur der kleinere etwa 22 kg schwere Theil desselben zu sehen, während sich der grÖssere im k. k. Hof-Naturaliencabinet in Wien befindet ...** complete Danish text (Lars, please help!): http://www.bjornetjenesten.dk/teksterdk/knagsted.htm Marty, You've really earned your Austral-Germaniac heiritage today... Congratulations !!! Notice of my special request is kindly appreciated, Buckleboo too, Dougy - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'MexicoDoug' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:43 AM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hi Doug, apropos Grimm bros. Did you know, that they mentioned a very famous meteorite in their collection of German folk tales (1816-1818)? Auch zeigt man auf dem Rathause zu Elbogen noch jetzt die verbannten ruchlosen und goldgeizigen Burggrafen in einem Klumpen klingenden Metall. Der Sage nach soll niemand, der mit einer Todsünde befleckt ist, diesen Klumpen in die Höhe heben können. Uuuh my poor English, a Matteo version could read like this: Also, in the townhall of Elbogen still today the banned heinous and gold-greedy burgraves are exhibited in a lump of clinking metal. Acording to legend nobody, who's imbrued by a capital sin, will be able to lift this lump. To translate the tale of the metamorphosis of the Burgrave into the meteorite, I leave to others (Peter, Bernd?): Der verwunschene Markgraf von Elbogen In grauer Vorzeit herrschte über Elbogen ein gar harter Mann, der Markgraf von Vohburg, der seine Untertanen und Diener, besonders die Bewohner der Robitsch - einer Elbogener Gegend - mit schwerem Frondienst bedrückte. Konnte einer den Willen des strengen Herren nicht nachkommen, wurde er sicherlich in den Turm geworfen und jämmerlich gezüchtigt. Über dem Haupttor der Burg ließ er eine Glocke befestigen, welche zur harten Arbeit rief. Zu Anfang ertönte sie wohl selten, später aber immer häufiger; denn der Markgraf wurde immer grausamer und habsüchtiger, das Mitleid schien gänzlich von ihm gewichen zu sein. Eines Sonntagmorgens stand er über dem Tor und beobachtete die in das nahe Gotteshaus wandelnden Scharen. Und es traf sich, dass eine arme Witwe ihm an diesem Tag eine Zahlung zu leisten hatte, sie hatte aber nichts, dass sie diese hätte entrichten können. Vielleicht, dachte sie, stimmt die heilige Sonntagsfeier den strengen Gebieter etwas zum Mitleid, und ging mit ihren unmündigen Kindern an der Hand, zu ihm hin und bat flehend um Nachsicht und Barmherzigkeit. Habet Erbarmen mit mir! Der Ernährer der Familie ist gestorben und die Arbeit meiner Hände reicht eben nur kümmerlich hin, mich und diese Waisen zu erhalten! Das Angesicht des Markgrafen verfinsterte sich bei der Rede wie der Himmel, der sich eben mit schweren Gewitterwolken umzog. Die arme Witwe bat nochmals und auch die Kleinen
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II
Hola Doug, yah and the Grimm brothers weren't only collectors of tales, but titans of linguistics in writing the first modern comprehensive German dictionary. Btw. Widmannstetter used Elbogen for his direct printing of his famous Thopmson structures. Goethe celebrated his 75th birthday on the castle of Elbogen (Loket), I'm not sure, whether he saw the Klumpen still there. Anyway, when ha was young and visited the stone of Ensisheim in the church, he made pubertal fooling about the people being so superstitious. Again, if once Vassiliev won't be so busy anymore, he has to found a meteorite fair on Loket castle. Nice counterpart to Ensisheim. Huh, I think I'm a capital sinner, I don't think, that I would be able to lift a Klumpen of more than 2 hundredweights... At least in the stories (there exist another version of the Burggraf metamorphosis) there are some slight meteoritical appeals: Thunder, Sounds, light, a pit... Buckleboo! Martin PS: There must be another story from that Klumpen, that it was hidden in the font of the castle - perhaps during the Napoleonic wars? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: MexicoDoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 24. November 2006 20:08 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hi Martin, Thanks for the Buckleboo! It had become such a familiar part of the list, like an attention-getting favorite family member I started to miss it Now, whoever said German couldn't be a consonant language, hasn't read enough of Klumpen klingenden Metall and such. Those Grimm boys really provided a capsule of time, the scientists they were, so far ahead in educating toddling future meteoriticists. Thanks for the tale of the Bohemian iron Elbogen, the year assumed ca. 1400 witnessed fall that was recorded more as conversion of a greedy baron than a meteoritical tale. One wonders what Widmaenstatten was really out to discover when he stuck a slab of Elbogen in a Bunsen Burner to see what would happen. It must have been quite a BuckleBOO! for Widmaenstatten to see the steely Baron's jailbars and bones developing in the flame of that bewitching Klumpen of Metall. This relationship of meteorites to avariciousness and piousness illustrated here and in the Grimms' tale is pleasantly enlightening. One can see the original view of the of the Burggraf that Widmanstaetten saw courtesy of Jörn Koblitz here: http://www.metbase.de/printable/images/schreibers3_650.jpg And Chladni himself had an etched knife forged from Elbogen which is now at the Berlin Museum for any or all the motivated to see! http://euromin.w3sites.net/Nouveau_site/musees/berlin/Website-dt/Elbogen.htm l And another book to possibly add to the list: KNAGSTED by Gustev Wied Finally, here's another book you don't have to buy and can read online, Knagsted, by the Danish novelist Gustav Wied. That is, if you can at least read Rigsdansk... It was a satire published in 1902 and is based in part on the Elbogen legends... Excerpt: **Samt (hvad der er forbavsende interessant): Der verwünschte Burggraf (en ond og haard Borgherre, der in grauer Vorzeit paa Foranledning af sin Umenneskelighed og en fattig Kones indtrængende Bøn til Gud blev forvandlet til) ein ursprünglich 108 kg schwerer Meteorstein von der Gestalt eines Pferdekopfes. Gegenwürtig aber ist nur der kleinere etwa 22 kg schwere Theil desselben zu sehen, während sich der grÖssere im k. k. Hof-Naturaliencabinet in Wien befindet ...** complete Danish text (Lars, please help!): http://www.bjornetjenesten.dk/teksterdk/knagsted.htm Marty, You've really earned your Austral-Germaniac heiritage today... Congratulations !!! Notice of my special request is kindly appreciated, Buckleboo too, Dougy - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'MexicoDoug' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:43 AM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hi Doug, apropos Grimm bros. Did you know, that they mentioned a very famous meteorite in their collection of German folk tales (1816-1818)? Auch zeigt man auf dem Rathause zu Elbogen noch jetzt die verbannten ruchlosen und goldgeizigen Burggrafen in einem Klumpen klingenden Metall. Der Sage nach soll niemand, der mit einer Todsünde befleckt ist, diesen Klumpen in die Höhe heben können. Uuuh my poor English, a Matteo version could read like this: Also, in the townhall of Elbogen still today the banned heinous and gold-greedy burgraves are exhibited in a lump of clinking metal. Acording to legend nobody, who's imbrued by a capital sin, will be able to lift this lump. To translate the tale of the metamorphosis of the Burgrave into the meteorite, I leave to others (Peter, Bernd?): Der verwunschene Markgraf von Elbogen In grauer Vorzeit herrschte über Elbogen ein gar harter Mann, der Markgraf von Vohburg, der
[meteorite-list] Bolide over South-West Germany
Hola list, Thomas Vettori and Bernd Pauli just reported a report of a good bolide over S-W-Germany and Switzerland yesterday. Here their link to a cool photo that bolide: http://www.swr3.de/info/magazin/sternschnuppe/index.html Buckleboo! Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II
Dear Martin, Doug, list , - Goethe celebrated his 74th birthday 1823 at the castle of Elbogen (Loket), together with the 19 years young Ulrike von Levetzow (see Goethe's 'Marienbader Elegie'). So he didn't care so much about the meteorite, prefered to ask Ulrike to marry him - but she refused. Probably it would have been better to turn the eyes to eternity and to start collecting meteorites. But, well, you know ... All best, have a nice weekend - Matthias - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'MexicoDoug' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hola Doug, yah and the Grimm brothers weren't only collectors of tales, but titans of linguistics in writing the first modern comprehensive German dictionary. Btw. Widmannstetter used Elbogen for his direct printing of his famous Thopmson structures. Goethe celebrated his 75th birthday on the castle of Elbogen (Loket), I'm not sure, whether he saw the Klumpen still there. Anyway, when ha was young and visited the stone of Ensisheim in the church, he made pubertal fooling about the people being so superstitious. Again, if once Vassiliev won't be so busy anymore, he has to found a meteorite fair on Loket castle. Nice counterpart to Ensisheim. Huh, I think I'm a capital sinner, I don't think, that I would be able to lift a Klumpen of more than 2 hundredweights... At least in the stories (there exist another version of the Burggraf metamorphosis) there are some slight meteoritical appeals: Thunder, Sounds, light, a pit... Buckleboo! Martin PS: There must be another story from that Klumpen, that it was hidden in the font of the castle - perhaps during the Napoleonic wars? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: MexicoDoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 24. November 2006 20:08 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hi Martin, Thanks for the Buckleboo! It had become such a familiar part of the list, like an attention-getting favorite family member I started to miss it Now, whoever said German couldn't be a consonant language, hasn't read enough of Klumpen klingenden Metall and such. Those Grimm boys really provided a capsule of time, the scientists they were, so far ahead in educating toddling future meteoriticists. Thanks for the tale of the Bohemian iron Elbogen, the year assumed ca. 1400 witnessed fall that was recorded more as conversion of a greedy baron than a meteoritical tale. One wonders what Widmaenstatten was really out to discover when he stuck a slab of Elbogen in a Bunsen Burner to see what would happen. It must have been quite a BuckleBOO! for Widmaenstatten to see the steely Baron's jailbars and bones developing in the flame of that bewitching Klumpen of Metall. This relationship of meteorites to avariciousness and piousness illustrated here and in the Grimms' tale is pleasantly enlightening. One can see the original view of the of the Burggraf that Widmanstaetten saw courtesy of Jörn Koblitz here: http://www.metbase.de/printable/images/schreibers3_650.jpg And Chladni himself had an etched knife forged from Elbogen which is now at the Berlin Museum for any or all the motivated to see! http://euromin.w3sites.net/Nouveau_site/musees/berlin/Website-dt/Elbogen.htm l And another book to possibly add to the list: KNAGSTED by Gustev Wied Finally, here's another book you don't have to buy and can read online, Knagsted, by the Danish novelist Gustav Wied. That is, if you can at least read Rigsdansk... It was a satire published in 1902 and is based in part on the Elbogen legends... Excerpt: **Samt (hvad der er forbavsende interessant): Der verwünschte Burggraf (en ond og haard Borgherre, der in grauer Vorzeit paa Foranledning af sin Umenneskelighed og en fattig Kones indtrængende Bøn til Gud blev forvandlet til) ein ursprünglich 108 kg schwerer Meteorstein von der Gestalt eines Pferdekopfes. Gegenwürtig aber ist nur der kleinere etwa 22 kg schwere Theil desselben zu sehen, während sich der grÖssere im k. k. Hof-Naturaliencabinet in Wien befindet ...** complete Danish text (Lars, please help!): http://www.bjornetjenesten.dk/teksterdk/knagsted.htm Marty, You've really earned your Austral-Germaniac heiritage today... Congratulations !!! Notice of my special request is kindly appreciated, Buckleboo too, Dougy - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'MexicoDoug' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:43 AM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hi Doug, apropos Grimm bros. Did you know, that they mentioned a very famous meteorite in their collection of German folk tales (1816-1818)? Auch zeigt man auf dem Rathause zu Elbogen noch jetzt die verbannten ruchlosen und goldgeizigen Burggrafen
Re: [meteorite-list] Scumbag Steve Arnold Chicago
I see your point Dave. But, no brain food needed here. The only reason I ever dealt with the mental defective is that he gives away his meteorites at a fraction of the value and he loves it. I mean, how many people do you know that buys a piece for $500 and then turns around the next day and sells it for a $100 bucks. He has the investing sense of a 3 year old. - Original Message - From: Dave Freeman mjwy To: Bob Holmes Cc: Bob Evans ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scumbag Steve Arnold Chicago I don't know whether it's the lemming gene or what, but I can't really understand why ANYONE would ever do any transactions with such a fraud. His conflicting transactions have been popping up every month, every few months, or all the time for the past three years, and yet, still there are those who cry when Ssteevvee burns them. After an ugly dog bites once, most of us learn to leave it be. I laugh when I see new stories of his antics. Try eating more fish in your diet, they say it's brain food. D F. Bob Holmes wrote: Why not now simply take the piece at your purchase price of $1.00? Never ceasing to be amazed, Bob - Original Message - From: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Scumbag Steve Arnold Chicago For those who care, This dips..t never ceases to amaze me. I bought an item from the mentally challenged Steve Arnold on ebay a while back. Apparently he listed the item for $1.00 by mistake. So he called me acknowledging the mistake and I said no problem you aren't obligated to sell me it, I'll just let it go Well, The moron just left me a negative feedback for the item that we agreed to cancel. See it here: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=maccers531ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS Heres the item: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290035883516 Watch out for this guy he will stab his own mother in the back. Happy Thanksgiving everyone !!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking for a piece of Baszkowka
Hello List, i'm looking for a piece of Baszkowka, please contact me off-list if you have one for sale. Best greetings, Carsten. - Besseren Schutz gegen Spam - jetzt bei dem neuen Yahoo! Mail .__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Metal detector
Steve, I have around 10 detectors. You need a different one for each job. I would sugest a Garett Master Hunter! It is the best for most detecting. There is a place in Fla. that has the cheapest new detectors. (Calaco) If you are interested I will try to find the address, but that may take a while as most of my reference stuff is packed away and I would have to go through about 20 boxes of lit. Jim Balister__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II
OK, Martin, Nice post, I'm convinced that, if I can ever possess a specimen of Elbogen, I won't have any choice than to acquire it from one of Chladni's authentic airs.:-) You mentioned our Widmannstaetten: Alois Beck Edler von Widmannstetter I was very curious about the spelling you used, an alternate from that which we are accustomed...Can you tell us Teutonically challenged volks a little about the reason for this difference? Ahhh, and those kind and ever-so-considerate Frenchmen. Why do you suppose they would have mocked so cruelly their Bohemian hosts by spitefully lifting up the unliftable Elbogen iron meteorite and tossing it into a well to languish there for decades? Was it simply with the arrogance to say, Non, nous'sommes non so greed, louky, devons-nous procéder à toss your rrrevered Cloompain to zz bottom of z pit where he can hhhrrust avayoui oui , ou la l, Kaput et Voilà La Boheme!!No wonder the Austrians taught those savage beastly French a lesson in humility and kicked them out on their derrières shortly afterward... for which the French rewarded them later by overrunning Munich. Well being the Francophile I am, and still astonished this could happen, I must say in their defense that the French Secret Order of the Guardians of Ensisheim has brought back great honor and civility upon their countrymen after that fateful moment of the aggression of Elbogen... Best wishes, Doug PS nice post Matthias, too! - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'MexicoDoug' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hola Doug, yah and the Grimm brothers weren't only collectors of tales, but titans of linguistics in writing the first modern comprehensive German dictionary. Btw. Widmannstetter used Elbogen for his direct printing of his famous Thopmson structures. Goethe celebrated his 75th birthday on the castle of Elbogen (Loket), I'm not sure, whether he saw the Klumpen still there. Anyway, when ha was young and visited the stone of Ensisheim in the church, he made pubertal fooling about the people being so superstitious. Again, if once Vassiliev won't be so busy anymore, he has to found a meteorite fair on Loket castle. Nice counterpart to Ensisheim. Huh, I think I'm a capital sinner, I don't think, that I would be able to lift a Klumpen of more than 2 hundredweights... At least in the stories (there exist another version of the Burggraf metamorphosis) there are some slight meteoritical appeals: Thunder, Sounds, light, a pit... Buckleboo! Martin PS: There must be another story from that Klumpen, that it was hidden in the font of the castle - perhaps during the Napoleonic wars? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: MexicoDoug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 24. November 2006 20:08 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II Hi Martin, Thanks for the Buckleboo! It had become such a familiar part of the list, like an attention-getting favorite family member I started to miss it Now, whoever said German couldn't be a consonant language, hasn't read enough of Klumpen klingenden Metall and such. Those Grimm boys really provided a capsule of time, the scientists they were, so far ahead in educating toddling future meteoriticists. Thanks for the tale of the Bohemian iron Elbogen, the year assumed ca. 1400 witnessed fall that was recorded more as conversion of a greedy baron than a meteoritical tale. One wonders what Widmaenstatten was really out to discover when he stuck a slab of Elbogen in a Bunsen Burner to see what would happen. It must have been quite a BuckleBOO! for Widmaenstatten to see the steely Baron's jailbars and bones developing in the flame of that bewitching Klumpen of Metall. This relationship of meteorites to avariciousness and piousness illustrated here and in the Grimms' tale is pleasantly enlightening. One can see the original view of the of the Burggraf that Widmanstaetten saw courtesy of Jörn Koblitz here: http://www.metbase.de/printable/images/schreibers3_650.jpg And Chladni himself had an etched knife forged from Elbogen which is now at the Berlin Museum for any or all the motivated to see! http://euromin.w3sites.net/Nouveau_site/musees/berlin/Website-dt/Elbogen.htm l And another book to possibly add to the list: KNAGSTED by Gustev Wied Finally, here's another book you don't have to buy and can read online, Knagsted, by the Danish novelist Gustav Wied. That is, if you can at least read Rigsdansk... It was a satire published in 1902 and is based in part on the Elbogen legends... Excerpt: **Samt (hvad der er forbavsende interessant): Der verwünschte Burggraf (en ond og haard Borgherre, der in grauer Vorzeit paa Foranledning af sin Umenneskelighed og en fattig Kones indtrængende Bøn til
Re: [meteorite-list] S***** Steve Arnold Chicago
Ok the gates of hell apparently have frozen over, I am stepping up to remind the membership that rules are rules and while I have violated them myself there is a prohibition against posting personal attacks, and we are in round 4 of the present one. Please take it off list else temper the vitriolic subject lines. But while we are on the topic, as to the need to share this to the list as an injured partyPAHLEZZZE! When you lay down with dogs.etc. You made your bed now lie in it ... The wisdom of the ages saw what you were oblivious to. As I recently wrote: I am astonished that YOU are astonished... Why brag about playing with scorpions then whining cause you got stung? A Rhetorical question cause I really don't want to hear how you got yourself into the present situation. Please suffer it in silence. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector
Jim, I think this is critical for the list as many of us are preparing for our next expeditions. Thank you for volunteering to do this for the group. Please put aside your other chores and start searching. Can you get this posted by next week since Christmas is right around the corner??? Elton --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, I have around 10 detectors. You need a different one for each job. I would sugest a Garett Master Hunter! It is the best for most detecting. There is a place in Fla. that has the cheapest new detectors. (Calaco) If you are interested I will try to find the address, but that may take a while as most of my reference stuff is packed away and I would have to go through about 20 boxes of lit. Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scumbag Steve Arnold Chicago Meteorite Chatroom Open
Dear List, Anyone available for a chat in the meteorite chatroom tonight open for discussion from now until everyone leaves. Bring your topics. Best, Dirk...Tokyo http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html --- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, why did you advertise the sale of all your stuff? Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:14:59 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scumbag Steve Arnold Chicago I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE.AND I AM NOT A JACKASS.BEFORE YOU ACCUSE ANYONE OF ANYTHING,YOU BETTER GET TO KNOW THE PERSON,THAN ASSUME.AND YOU ARE THE JACK ASS. Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!! Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite)
http://www.turnto10.com/news/10392157/detail.html NEWPORT, R.I. -- An archaeological dig at a mysterious Newport Tower turns up -- not much. Archeologists spent a month digging at a structure called the Old Stone Mill. The tower's origins are uncertain -- leading amateur historians to speculate it was built by Nordic Vikings, Irish monks or even stranded Chinese sailors. Archaeologists said the excavation yielded buttons, pottery and glass fragments -- but none dated later than the late 1600s. However, the team believes it found part of a small meteorite that fell more than 2,000 years ago. Many in Newport believe the tower has more local origins. They said it was built under the direction of colonial Governor Benedict Arnold, the great-grandfather of the Revolutionary War traitor. Joyce Clements, an archaeologist involved in the dig, said colonial Rhode Island had craftsmen skilled enough to build it. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT fun guy
Last night I was browsing through some photos I had taken a few weeks ago and just got around to downloading from my digital camera. This one looked ubercool to me: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/shroomcap.jpg it reminds me of this picture of Hyperion: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA07740.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - Saturday, November 25, 2006
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