[meteorite-list] thanks!
Hi everybody, I'd like to thank everyone for the really positive response to the www specialistauctions.com site and especially to those who have already started listing! So, an unashamed plug - USE IT!! I don't care if no one buys my stuff - I just put some stuff up there to help to populate an empty space! But I see now that already one of you has started putting stuff up! I'll put some more stuff on but I don't have a lot to sell to be honest. .. the listing is free - I think they take 3% of the end price, and no, I have NO interests in this site other than being asked to be a mod for it! The IMCA will hopefully soon have a link on it - I have sent the site administrators some code linking to it Help me to kick eBay's ass - even though eBay has been good to some of us sometimes (I keep going back to the 29g veiny PV specimen I got for $175.. sorry!) Much appreciated, and the lack of flame was too! best from a drizzly England Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] good faith trade
In a message dated 12/17/2006 9:49:22 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Campo del Cielo this??? Uhauhauhauhaits well visible this is a SA. I not understand why IMCA not accept my subscription and after have accept persons type steve arnold chicagomistery Matteo --- Steve Arnold - Chicago is not a Member of the IMCA. Please fell free to go to _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) , click on Member then on Member List for a current list of Members in good standing. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 18, 2006
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[meteorite-list] 100, 000 to 200, 000 BP Western Desert of Egypt Impact
Dear Friends, A paper about a proposed Pleistocene impact in the western Desert of Egypt is in press in the Earth and Planetary Science Letters. It is: Osinski, G. R., H. P. Schwarcz, J. R. Smith, M. R. Kleindienst, A. F.C. Haldemann and C. S. Churcher. in Press, Evidence for a 200-100 ka meteorite impact in the Western Desert of Egypt. Earth and Planetary Science Letters. available online December 2006 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0012821X This paper argues that unusual silicate glasses found near the Dakhleh Oasis, Western Desert, Egypt is the result of either a cratering event or a large aerial burst, which occurred about 100,000 to 200,000 year ago according to Ar/Ar dating and geoarcaheological evidence. Some web pages: 1. Dakhleh Oasis, Egypt http://epsc.wustl.edu/~kieniewicz/dakhleh_oasis.htm 2. Excavations at Mut el-Kharab, Dakhleh Oasis http://arts.monash.edu.au/archaeology/excavations/dakhleh/index.html http://arts.monash.edu.au/archaeology/excavations/dakhleh/mut-el-kharab/index.html 3. Haldemann, A. F. C., M. R. Kleindienst, C. S. Churcher, J. R. Smith, H. Schwarcz, K. Markham, and G. Osinski, 2005, Mapping Impact Modified Sediments: Subtle Remote-Sensing Signatures of the Dakhleh Oasis Catastrophic Event, Western Desert, Egypt. American Astronomical Society, DPS meeting #37, #17.03; Bulletin of the American Astronomical Society, Vol. 37, p.648 http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005DPS37.1703H Yours, Paul H. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - December 18, 2006
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Relay Link Restored After Orbiter's Recovery - sol 1043-1050, December 18, 2006: After Spirit drove on sol 1041 (Dec. 7, 2006), NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter went into safe mode before the rover's could relay data to Earth about results of the drive. (Safe mode is a protective state during which only the systems essential to spacecraft health continue operating. This incident of Odyssey temporarily going into safe mode has been attributed to a burst of solar activity.) Since the rover team didn't have current information about Spirit's position and state, the rover spent eight successive Martian days, or sols, collecting untargeted remote sensing data. Data transmission directly to Earth from Spirit on sol 1046 (Dec. 12, 2006) confirmed that Spirit was healthy. Odyssey recovered the following day and resumed relaying data from Spirit, transmitted from the rover to the orbiter in the UHF radio band. Sol-by-sol summary: Sol 1043 (Dec. 9, 2006): Spirit surveyed the rover's tracks using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer and measured atmospheric dust opacity with the panoramic camera. The rover surveyed the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Sol 1044: Spirit surveyed the area where the rover spent the past Martian winter with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer and took panoramic camera images of the area. Sol 1045: Spirit took thumbnail images of the sky with the panoramic camera and scanned the sky for clouds with the navigation camera. Spirit monitored the rover mast for dust and relayed the first bits of scientific data collected and stored on sol 1040 (Dec. 6, 2006). Sol 1046: Spirit surveyed the rover's winter haven with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer and monitored atmospheric dust with the panoramic camera. The rover scanned the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Sol 1047: Spirit collected miniature thermal emission spectrometer data from a soil target known as Tyrone and continued acquiring panoramic camera images of the rover's winter haven. Sol 1048: Spirit acquired thumbnail images of the sky with the panoramic camera and scanned the sky for clouds with the navigation camera. The rover monitored atmospheric dust with the panoramic camera, and surveyed the sky, ground, and calibration target with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Sol 1049: Spirit acquired navigation camera images in support of miniature thermal emission spectrometer measurements of the rover's surroundings. The rover monitored atmospheric dust with the panoramic camera and acquired panoramic images of the area ahead. Sol 1050 (Dec. 16, 2006): Spirit's instructions call for scanning for clouds and dust devils with the navigation camera, surveying the mast for dust accumulation and observing the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Odometry: As of sol 1048 (Dec. 14, 2006), Spirit's total odometry was 6,885.62 meters meters (4.28 miles). OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Opportunity Looks for Entry Point into Crater - sol 1022-1028, December 18, 2006: Opportunity is healthy and driving toward Bottomless Bay to gather data on whether this would be a suitable future entry point into Victoria Crater. The rover will continue traversing the crater rim and collecting images of the cliff walls. On Dec. 6, 2006, corresponding to the 1020th sol, or Martian day, of Opportunity's mission on the surface of Mars, NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter entered safe mode, a protective state during which only those systems vital to the orbiter's health continue to operate. Odyssey provides the relay communications link for most data received from the Opportunity and Spirit rovers. Rover handlers responded to the temporary unavailability of Odyssey by planning only one sol of driving and limiting remote sensing activities until the orbiter returned to normal relay mode on Opportunity's sol 1026 (Dec. 12, 2006). Between sols 1021 (Dec. 7, 2006) and 1027 (Dec. 13, 2006), Opportunity drove 84 meters (276 feet). Sol-by-sol summaries: Sol 1022 (Dec. 8, 2006): Opportunity took backward-looking panoramic images, monitored the rover mast for dust, acquired thumbnail panoramic images of the sky, and measured atmospheric dust. Sol 1023: Opportunity measured atmospheric dust and acquired forward-looking images using the panoramic camera, acquired images to accompany surveys by the miniature thermal emission spectrometer using the navigation camera, and scanned the sky and ground using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. The rover monitored atmospheric dust at sunset, measured atmospheric density of argon gas with the alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer, and scanned the sky for clouds with the navigation camera. Sol 1024: Opportunity measured atmospheric dust with the panoramic camera, scanned
[meteorite-list] NASA and Google to Bring Space Exploration Down to Earth
Dec. 18, 2006 Michael Mewhinney Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. 650-604-3937 Jon Murchinson Google Inc., Mountain View, Calif. 650-253-4437 RELEASE: 06-371 NASA AND GOOGLE TO BRING SPACE EXPLORATION DOWN TO EARTH MOFFETT FIELD, Calif. - NASA Ames Research Center and Google have signed a Space Act Agreement that formally establishes a relationship to work together on a variety of challenging technical problems ranging from large-scale data management and massively distributed computing, to human-computer interfaces. As the first in a series of joint collaborations, Google and Ames will focus on making the most useful of NASA's information available on the Internet. Real-time weather visualization and forecasting, high-resolution 3-D maps of the moon and Mars, real-time tracking of the International Space Station and the space shuttle will be explored in the future. This agreement between NASA and Google will soon allow every American to experience a virtual flight over the surface of the moon or through the canyons of Mars, said NASA Administrator Michael Griffin at Headquarters in Washington. This innovative combination of information technology and space science will make NASA's space exploration work accessible to everyone, added Griffin. Partnering with NASA made perfect sense for Google, as it has a wealth of technical expertise and data that will be of great use to Google as we look to tackle many computing issues on behalf of our users, said Eric Schmidt, chief executive officer of Google. We're pleased to move forward to collaborate on a variety of technical challenges through the signing of the Space Act Agreement. Recently, teams from NASA and Google met to discuss the many challenging computer science problems facing both organizations and possible joint collaborations that could help address them. NASA and Google intend to collaborate in a variety of areas, including incorporating agency data sets in Google Earth, focusing on user studies and cognitive modeling for human computer interaction, and science data search utilizing a variety of Google features and products. Our collaboration with Google will demonstrate that the private and public sectors can accomplish great things together, said S. Pete Worden, Ames center director. I want NASA Ames to establish partnerships with the private sector that will encourage innovation, while advancing the Vision for Space Exploration and commercial interests, Worden added. NASA has collected and processed more information about our planet and universe than any other entity in the history of humanity, said Chris C. Kemp, director of strategic business development at Ames. Even though this information was collected for the benefit of everyone, and much is in the public domain, the vast majority of this information is scattered and difficult for non-experts to access and to understand. We've worked hard over the past year to implement an agreement that enables NASA and Google to work closely together on a wide range of innovative collaborations, said Kemp. We are bringing together some of the best research scientists and engineers to form teams to make more of NASA's vast information accessible. NASA and Google also are finalizing details for additional collaborations that include joint research, products, facilities, education and missions. Google's innovative search technologies connect millions of people around the world with information every day. Google is headquartered close to Ames in Silicon Valley with offices through the Americas, Europe and Asia. For more information about Google, please visit: http://www.google.com For information about NASA and agency programs, please visit: http://www.nasa.gov -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Turkish Scientists in Search for 14th Century Meteorite
http://english.people.com.cn/200612/18/eng20061218_333716.html Turkish scientists in search for oldest meteorite People's Daily Online (China) December 18, 2006 A group of Turkish scientists are looking for the traces of a meteorite which they believe to be the oldest recorded celestial body that ever hit the Earth, the semi-official Anatolia news agency reported on Monday. Acting on a 14th century travelogue by the renowned Arab Muslim author, Ibn Batuta, a group of Turkish physicists, astronomers and specialists will soon begin its quest for the oldest recorded meteorite, Professor Mehmet Emin Ozel, head of 18 Mart University Institute of Natural Sciences, was quoted as saying. The search effort will be conducted in the Odemis town of western province of Izmir, according to the report. Ibn Batuta's Travelogue, which was finished in 1360 after his 33-year-long journey over a vast geography from Spain to China and from Mali to Russia, provides an important source of knowledge about large parts of the known world of his day. Batuta recalls in his memoir an Anatolian feudal lord speaking to the author about a rock that fell from the sky, a black- colored meteorite weighing about 80 kg, and witnesses' accounts about the body. Source: Xinhua __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sampling the Solar System
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/061216_sampling_solarsystem.html Sampling the Solar System By Leonard David space.com 16 December 2006 HOUSTON, Texas - In a nation where obsessive collectors bestow value on everything from bean bag animals to baseball cards to anything the marketing department from Disney can pump out, there is one authoritative set of collectibles that is truly one of a kind and out of this world. The assortment contains bits of comet, samples of solar wind and particles of interstellar dust. Also, toss in loads of meteorites and the collected works of Apollo moonwalkers that lugged back to Earth lunar rock and dirt. All this and more are under the care of the Astromaterials Acquisition and Curation Office at the NASA Johnson Space Center (JSC). They curate the space agency's current and future holdings of samples from out there. Samples can guide scientists in unraveling some of the unknowns surrounding the birth and evolution of our solar system and the emergence of life. Busted up and dirty But sometimes being on the receiving end of solar system samples can prove unnerving. That was the case when NASA's Genesis sample container made a high-speed nosedive into a Utah landing zone back in 2004 - minus a parachute. All the samples came back to Earth. They just busted up and got dirty, said Carlton Allen, Astromaterials Curator and Manager of the Astromaterials Acquisition and Curation Office here at JSC. However, it has been a painstaking job of extracting Utah mud, salt-filled water and shattered spacecraft from whiffs of solar wind. We're continuing to clean, analyze and distribute samples. We're getting samples out and people are doing good science with them, he told SPACE.com. You can learn what the Sun was telling us. Stardust: prized cargo On January 15 of this year, after more than 7 years and billions of miles of travel through space, NASA's Stardust spacecraft deposited its return capsule on Earth loaded with prized cargo: pristine samples of comet particles captured during the spacecraft's encounter with Wild 2 in January 2004. This time parachute hardware worked as billed. Scientists have been busy studying this stash of primo specimens - nothing less than the fundamental building blocks of our Solar System that formed 4.6 billion years ago. With Stardust, life's a whole lot easier, Allen said. Less than a year after mission return, we have high-quality science coming out of the science team. In addition to discovering stardust, or particles older than the Sun, researcher recently announced they had found material from the hottest part of the solar system in a sample provided by Stardust. Stardust samples are now available to the worldwide science community at large on request and following a normal peer review process. Everybody has a shot at Stardust samples, Allen added. Furthermore, thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/index.php -- the public can volunteer to look for minuscule particles of interstellar dust also bagged by Stardust. The intent is to locate the best hits in the Stardust collector to be carefully removed next year for study at JSC and other institutions. Back to the Moon campaign JSC's Allen said that the need for Apollo lunar samples is on the upswing. NASA's back to the Moon campaign has meant a 50 percent increase in the number of requests for lunar rocks and dust returned by Apollo moonwalkers. Researchers are studying everything from potential health hazards through inhalation of lunar dust to using samples for building purposes as well as for processing - particularly to make oxygen from lunar soil. At present, there are no formal plans within NASA to carry out land, scoop and return duties using robotic spacecraft. Apollo astronauts brought back to Earth lunar specimens from 1969 through 1972. But given future expeditionary returns to the Moon, Allen said more rocks and soil will surely be transported back to Earth for further scientific scrutiny. We understand mostly how to do that. We've been dealing with lunar rocks for 30-plus years, Allen explained. We know how to take care of rocks. Red planet plans Hauling back a suite of samples from Mars by automated means has long been on NASA's red planet plans. Mars is a different kind of place, Allen noted. There are planetary protection considerations with any kind of Mars sample. A study is now underway - led by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory - to investigate a robotic Mars sample return mission - making use of Ares boosters that are part of NASA's Constellation program, Allen said. In addition, NASA's Mars Scout program has received sample return proposals, Allen noted. Unusual phenomenon The recent revelation that Mars might be home for water-spewing gully action is an exciting prospect, Allen said. Nonetheless, dispatching any spacecraft to such a locale would require adherence to planetary protection regulations - and
Re: [meteorite-list] good faith trade
Hello all... I contacted the seller of the sikhote-alin referenced in the following ebay auction that was posted here earlier on the list. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130033060766 Here is his explaination of why it looks like a CAMPO: Hi Jim, Thank you. Now it is very difficult to get good ones, so rusted ones are also good without good crusted ones... I remember that sample and say without any doubt -- IT IS A SIKHOTE-ALIN INDIVIDUAL. Almost no crust it has. It was cleaned of rust. The source where I got the sample (with many others) is people from Sikhote Alin Mountains. 100 %! Do not worry about this. I know what I'm saying. All the best, - Original Message - From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 1:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] good faith trade Thaddeus Besedin endophasy at yahoo.com Sun Dec 17 19:53:06 EST 2006 a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] good faith trade b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] good faith trade c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Mike, 1. An unusually warm winter in Siberia and European Russia is contributing to increases in CO2 due to melting of saturated, organic-rich permafrost and surfaces of ancient lakes. Animal migrations and hibernation have been affected, as have flowering plants and deciduous trees. http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:PKFaVsA80CwJ:www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/11/15/russia.bears.reut/index.html+siberia+weather+2006+winterhl=engl=usct=clnkcd=1 2. Vladivostok is not frozen in October. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/city_guides/results.shtml?tt=TT004640 3.Moscow has received little snow this season, and mean temperatures exceed freezing.http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/3078/ http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:e6SieVZPh9cJ:rss.news.yahoo.com/imgrss/events/wl/012006russiacold+moscow+snow+2006hl=engl=usct=clnkcd=10 4. A newscast reported that winter sports in SW Russia were impossible in natural contexts, so roller blades became substitutes. http://rtv.rtrlondon.co.uk/2006-12-14/33569c2e.html Siberian weather thus is no more inhospitable than Antarctic conditions - although I doubt new Sikhote-Alin specimens are surficial. Here is an uncleaned Sikhote-Alin: http://www.gc.maricopa.edu/earthsci/imagearchive/Sikhote%20Alin%20955.jpg This specimen does appear to have morphological characteristics of Sikhote-Alin, although oxidation on Steve's stone does seem to mimic the weathered surface of Campo. -Thaddeus Michael Farmer meteoriteguy at yahoo.com wrote: Steve, why dont you check the frigging weather in SIKHOTE-ALIN. That is in a place called SIBERIA, which in the last two months, have been under many meters of snow no doubt, blizzards and negative temperatures. Hardly easy place to get to in the summertime, likely a tad more difficult in the deead of winter. _So something tells me that there have likely been no meteorite hunters at Sikhote-Alin during the last 3 or even 4 months. Mike Farmer --- ¤¤PolandMET¤¤ wrote: Good morning list.It seems I have made in error in a trade I made.I am the one whose picture of the sikote-alin,that was put out by Jim strope.I made a trade for that sikote-alin,that everyone is saying is a campo.I admit I have never seen a an sikote like this,but all the pitting looked like classic sa.But in a possible trade with mike Johnson,he mentioned that it looked like a campo,but I assured him it was from pieces that were recently found in the last 2 months.This trade was made with IMCA member #2321,TOMAZ JAKUBOWSKI.He said he bought it from sergey from new comet shop 2 months ago.So it got me wondering after mike made me wonder about it.So I emailed him back and he said,undeniably,it is from a new source of sa's found in the last 2 months.Well I decided to ask a guy whi is an EXPERT on sa's,jim strope.He said there is no way that this is an sa.So I asked to send pics around to all on the list to get reaction as to what it is.It is gorgeous piece.But if it is a campo,and not a sikote,I WANT MY HOWARDITE BACK.This now becomes and IMCA issue.I did make this trade in good faith.Please help!! Im confused ! So You must have best shaped Campo ever seen or most ugly Sikhote. I cand imagine how its possible to mistake Campo with Sikhite-Alin ??? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net marcin at meteoryt.net http://www.PolandMET.com marcin at polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Turkish Scientists in Search for 14th Century Meteorite
Hello Ron and List, Batuta recalls in his memoir an Anatolian feudal lord speaking to the author about a rock that fell from the sky, a black- colored meteorite weighing about 80 kg, and witnesses' accounts about the body. Well, this is probably the Aidin stone (said to have fallen in the year 1340) but the evidence is not conclusive! the oldest recorded celestial body that ever hit the Earth Hmm! And what about Nogata which fell in 861 A.D. after detonations and a brilliant flash. The following morning, a single stone was recovered from a hole in the ground. The stone has since been preserved in a Shinto shrine. Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Leibniz Prize Winners 2007 Announced
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=59035 Leibniz Prize Winners 2007 Announced Medical News Today December 18, 2006 The Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (German Research Foundation, DFG) has announced the winners of its 2007 Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz Prize. At its meeting, the DFG Joint Committee named ten scientists and academics - eight men and two women - as recipients of Germany's most highly endowed research award. For the first time, the prize winners for 2007 will receive up to 2.5 million euros (previously: 1.55 million euros) and be able to use these funds flexibly over a period of seven years (previously: five years) to finance their research. The Leibniz Programme, established in 1985, aims to improve the working conditions of outstanding researchers, expand their research opportunities, relieve them of administrative duties, and make it easier for them to employ particularly qualified young researchers. Scientists and academics from any research area can be nominated for the prize. The DFG Nominations Committee considers the slate of candidates and selects researchers who can be expected to particularly advance their scientific achievements through this award. This year's prize winners once again include several young researchers. This announcement brings the total number of prizes awarded under the Leibniz Programme to 249. Of these, 54 recipients have been from the humanities, 70 from the life sciences, 89 from the natural sciences, and 36 from engineering. A total of 25 awards have gone to women. Of 129 nominations received for the 2007 prize, the following ten researchers were selected: [snip] Prof. Dr. Falko Langenhorst (42), Mineralogy and Petrology, Institute of Geosciences, University of Jena (2.5 million euros) Falko Langenhorst looks at the impacts of celestial bodies colliding with Earth, as well as with other planets and moons, which have played a major role in the evolution of our planet and the solar system. He focuses especially on the basic physics and chemistry of impact processes and their effects on the biosphere (astromineralogy). Falko Langenhorst was the first to detect high-pressure minerals in the Martian meteorite Zagami, which itself had been ejected from the surface of Mars by a meteorite and flung all the way to Earth. For the impact event that produced this Martian meteorite, Langenhorst has been able to determine pressures of about 300,000 bars and temperatures of 2,400 to 2,500 degrees Celsius. He also received great international attention for his research on the crystal chemistry of perovskite, a main component of Earth's lower mantle. Falko Langenhorst studied mineralogy in GieÃen and Münster, where he got his PhD in 1993 before he went to Lille as a postdoc. Since 2004 he has held the chair for general and applied mineralogy in Jena. His high international reputation is reflected in numerous honours, such as his membership in the Academia Europaea and a fellowship from the Japanese Society for the Promotion of Science. [snip] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test - Please delete
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[meteorite-list] AD- Governados Valadares and Barwell
Hi, Ok - this is a blatant and unashamed ad! I have put two items out for sale on the new auction site I wish to use (and hope to encourage others to use...) So, the URL is http://www.specialistauctions.com/auctiondetails.php?id=260710 and http://www.specialistauctions.com/auctiondetails.php?id=261494 bear with me - input will always be appreciated and I am grateful for the positive feedback I have got! Hopefully more of you will use this sales room instead of Fleabay humbly, Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Mauretanian meteorite?
On behalf of Beda Hofmann, who's e-mails do not make it to the list at this time: Hello list Does anyone know about a recent fall in Mauretania? I have received a sample of a meteorite that supposedly fell on October 12, 2006. At first I did not believe the story, the stuff looks like El Hammami and probably is also an H. However, first results from low-level gamma-spectroscopy indicate it is really a recent fall (short-lived radionuclides are present). Please let me know if somebody knows that other labs are working on the classification already... Best regards Beda Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Mauretanian meteorite?
Dear Beda, a few weeks ago I launched a very similar request after I had recieved a number of samples from a very fresh meteorite. The material is dubbed Noktat Addagmar and is said to have fallen in June 2006 at Noktat Addagmar which is a small caravansary at the Moroccan, Western Sahara, Mauretainan triangle. Eyewittnesses claimed that five or six stones fell after a spectacular fireball and a loud explosion. No further information could be obtained. I though have recorded the names of the eyewittnesses. This is the entry in my inventory catalogue on the 591gm fragment I own: Meteoritic material from the Ahmiriz region 280km south Dakhla / Morocco. The nearest village to the find is named Noktat Addagmar which is 90 km north of El Gouira close to the coast of the Atlantic Ocean. Two eyewitnesses report that five or six stones fell after a loud explosion and a fireball on June 30, 2006. Material is a friable chondrite most probably type 3 or 4 with fresh fusion crust. TKW is 2.1 kg, probably more fragments are circulating. Distribution to my knowledge is: 591gm oriented fragment: Niger Meteorite Recon collection / Dr. Svend Buhl 420gm sold to anonymous collector 188gm sold to anonymous collector None of the major institutuions I have contacted is currently working on a classification of this meteorite. I would consider it a major contribution if your work could add any information to this subject. Please contact me, should you be interested in a photo documentation of the mass I still have and the ones I have pictured of this fall. best regards Svend Buhl www.niger-meteorite-recon.de - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritenliste Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Mauretanian meteorite? On behalf of Beda Hofmann, who's e-mails do not make it to the list at this time: Hello list Does anyone know about a recent fall in Mauretania? I have received a sample of a meteorite that supposedly fell on October 12, 2006. At first I did not believe the story, the stuff looks like El Hammami and probably is also an H. However, first results from low-level gamma-spectroscopy indicate it is really a recent fall (short-lived radionuclides are present). Please let me know if somebody knows that other labs are working on the classification already... Best regards Beda Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Unlocking the Frozen Secrets of Comet Wild 2
December 14, 2006 Contacts: George Cody, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-202-478-8980 Larry Nittler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-202-478-8460 Conel Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-202-478-8478 Andrew Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-202-478-8974; Marc Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-202-478-7970 PIO Source: Tina McDowell Carnegie Institution 1-202-939-1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unlocking the frozen secrets of comet Wild 2 Washington, D.C. - Eleven months ago, NASA's Stardust mission touched down in the Utah desert with the first solid comet samples ever retrieved from space. Since then, nearly 200 scientists from around the globe have studied the minuscule grains, looking for clues to the physical and chemical history of our solar system. Although years of work remain to fully decipher the secrets of comet Wild 2, researchers are sure that it contains some of the most primitive and exotic chemical structures ever studied in a laboratory. Preliminary results appear in a special section of the December 15 issue of Science. Overall, research efforts have focused on answering big-picture questions regarding the nature of the comet samples that were returned, including determining mineral structures, chemical composition, and the chemistry of the organic, or carbon-containing, compounds they carry. Carnegie researchers made key contributions to the latter effort. Out of seven papers in total, four involved Carnegie scientists from the Geophysical Laboratory (GL) and the Department of Terrestrial Magnetism (DTM). Carnegie enjoys a unique concentration of instrumentation and expertise to be able to engage in cutting-edge questions such as those posed by the Stardust mission, said GL's Andrew Steele. Scientists have believed that comets formed long ago in the cool outer reaches of the solar system and thus largely consist of material that formed at cold temperatures and escaped alteration in the blast furnace of the inner solar nebula - the cloud of hot gases that condensed to form the Sun and terrestrial planets some 4.5 billion years ago. According to the record contained in the Stardust grains, it appears that this hypothesis is about 90% right. Evidence from the ratios of certain isotopes - variants of atoms that have the same chemical properties, yet differ in weight - suggest that as much as 10% of the comet's material formed in the hot inner solar nebula and was transported to the cold outer reaches where the comet came together as the Sun formed. Chief among these tell-tale isotopes are those of oxygen, for which the ratios resemble those seen in meteorites known to have formed in the inner solar system. Yet, isotopic measurements of hydrogen and nitrogen made at DTM and elsewhere tell a different picture. The presence of excesses of heavier isotopes - deuterium and nitrogen 15, to be specific - is a strong indication that some of the comet dust was around before the Sun formed, said DTM's Larry Nittler. It's really quite striking. The structures of the comet's organic molecules tell a similar tale. This comet's organic material is really quite unusual compared to other extraterrestrial sources we have studied, such as meteorites and interstellar dust particles, said GL's George Cody. Yet there are some important similarities that tell that us we are not dealing with matter that is totally foreign to our solar system. The samples contain very few of the stable ringed, or aromatic, carbon structures that are common on Earth and in meteorites. Instead, they have many fragile carbon structures that would most likely not have survived the harsh conditions in the solar nebula. These molecules also contain considerably more oxygen and nitrogen than even the most primordial examples retrieved from meteorites and exist in forms that are new to meteorite studies. These forms of carbon don't look like what we find in meteorites, which is something like compacted soot from your chimney. The carbon compounds from this comet are a much more complicated mix of compounds, commented GL's Marc Fries. It will be an exciting challenge to explain how these compounds formed and wound up in the comet. This leads us to our next big question, Cody remarked. How could such fragile material have survived capture at 6 km/sec collision velocity? At this point, every question we answer raises several more questions, Nittler said. But that is precisely what makes exploration so exciting and makes sample return so important. We now have the samples to study for many years to come. Stardust, a project under NASA's Discovery Program of low-cost, highly focused science missions, was built by Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, Colo., and is managed by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. The mission's principal investigator is Dr. Donald Brownlee of the University of Washington in Seattle, WA. More information on the
Re: [meteorite-list] Turkish Scientists in Search for 14th CenturyMeteorite
Hi, We have two sub-categories in this title: 1. Oldest Conserved Meteorite (or positively identified meteorite with historical provenance). 2. Oldest Almost-Certainly-Meteorite Conserved Object (but not now available or known to have survived). We have the Black Stone in the corner of the Ka'bah in Mecca, which structure pre-dates Islam as a place of worship and said to have fallen from the sky long before the days of the Prophet. Such stones were also found in a number of north Arabian Pre-Islamic shrines thought to be the residence of a god, hence the term applied to them by Byzantine Christian writers of the fifth and sixth centuries: baetyl, from bet'el, the house of god. There are the meteoritic iron beads (a worked meteorite) recovered from Dickinson Mound in Illinois. A Hopewell site, it has to date to before 400 AD. There are numerous other meteorites in a conserved context in the Americas, most notably the massive Casas Grandes. You can still go visit it, just not in its original location, nor receiving its former reverence. And naturally, you have to include the great Greenland irons, both respected and mined by the natives, and the Willamette iron, despite their recent change of residence. The USA is not the only country to bring great meteorites to its capitols; the Romans did it, too. In the Classical world, there were many deities known to have been associated with black stones. Thise include the shrine of Aphrodite at Paphos, of Cybele at Pessinus and later at Rome, of Astarte at Byblos and the famous Artemis/Diana of Ephesus. The latter's most ancient sculpture was, it is said, carved from a black meteorite. Of course, there is argument over which black stones were meteorites and which were just black stones. None of these ancient stones, meteorites or not, has survived the zeal of early Christians, of course. Cybele's stone was certainly a meteorite. Like many of the early sacred stones, it was said to be conical. We probably lost some big oriented beauties in the loss of these stones. The stone associated with Cybele's worship was, originally, probably at Pessinus but perhaps at Pergamum or on Mount Ida. What is certain is that in 204 BC it was taken to Rome, where Cybele became Mother to the Romans. Her ecstatic rites of worship made the Roman streets very lively during the annual procession of the goddess's statue. Alongside Isis, Cybele retained prominence in the heart of the Empire until the fifth century AD; the stone was then lost. It has been described very fully by Arnobius (about 300 AD). He states that it was a small stone which could be easily and lightly carried in the hand; it was of a black hue and of rough surface, and had many irregular projecting angles. Regmaglypts? Some authors have interpreted that it could be lightly carried in the hand as meaning it was of low density and hence, not a meteorite. Did everybody just want to claim that THEIR stone fell from the sky? But why make the claim unless some of them really did? Oddly enough... I keep saying that, but history IS odd. The Pessinian stone may have been housed in the temple of Cybele called the Phrygianum, whose ruins are UNDER St. Peter's, so perhaps the Vatican has a meteorite in its foundations just as Islam has in the Ka'bah. I think that qualifies as odd. In 220 AD, the Syrian Roman Emperor Elagabalus brought the black stone of Emessa, an undoubted meteorite, from its old home in the temple of Ba'al to Rome, hoping to establish a new State religion (which he would run, of course). Didn't work out, but the temple (and the stone) remained there. The home temple of Aphrodite was at Paphos on Cyprus and very old. The tapering black stone which was the object of verneration at this Temple still survives, even if it now placed inside the site musuem. It doesn't seem to be a meteorite, which is odd because it was said to be, in ancient times. Perhaps it never was a meteorite, or the present stone may be a replacement for a lost original. Oddly enough, also on Cyprus is another highly venerated Islamic site -- the third most important after Mecca and Medina -- the Hala Sultan Tekke. This, too, has a black rock, said to have fallen as a meteorite as part of the tritholon over the shrine. The shrine is to a woman - the aunt and foster mother of the Prophet Mohammed. Maybe that's the original Paphan meteorite? The most famous Classical site with a meteoritic sacred stone is the great Oracle of Delphi in Greece, dating in its foundation to more than 1000 BC, which was built around a meteoritic shrine. The original stone, now lost, was a large meteorite fallen from the sky in deepest antiquity, it's said, before the shrine itself was built. Anaxagoras (in the 5th century BC) witnessed a wagon-sized meteorite strike the earth. Because of its fiery nature, he assumed that it had broken off from the Sun. Since the meteorite was iron, he deduced
Re: [meteorite-list] Turkish Scientists in Search for 14thCenturyMeteorite
Hi Sterling, Bernd, and All, Sterling: thanks for your thoughts on this - a nice read, and some great information. I also compiled some information on meteorites in cult and religion on my site, and the respective pages can be found here: http://www.meteoris.de/basics/cult1.html http://www.meteoris.de/basics/cult2.html http://www.meteoris.de/basics/cult3.html http://www.meteoris.de/basics/cult4.html These pages also include some descent photos of the Hadschar al Aswad (the Black Stone of Mecca), and the Black Stone of Paphos. On the latter one you wrote: The home temple of Aphrodite was at Paphos on Cyprus and very old. The tapering black stone which was the object of verneration at this Temple still survives, even if it now placed inside the site musuem. It doesn't seem to be a meteorite, which is odd because it was said to be, in ancient times. Perhaps it never was a meteorite, or the present stone may be a replacement for a lost original. Yeap, the Black Stone at the museum in Kouklia (Palaeo-Paphos) is certainly no meteorite, but a huge andesitic bolder. I visited Paphos, and the Black Stone earlier this year just to find out. You can view my detailed report in one of the back issues of IMCA Insights, published in cooperation with Meteorite-Times: http://imca.repetti.net/articles/IMCA-Insights4.htm The stunning thing is that the Black Stone of Paphos is a pretty good meteorwrong - have a look at the photo. It's even more convincing in real, and only a close inspection will tell you that it's no rock from space. That made me ask in my report: Why the heck did the people in the Late Bronze Age opt for such striking meteor-wrong? Maybe it was deliberately chosen because it resembled a real bethyl, or maybe the ancient Achaeans even believed it to be a real meteorite? If so, they would have to be familiar with at least some actual meteorites - something that leaves much room for speculation, and future investigations. I'm actually convinced that they knew meteorites, and their typical look. And I'm sure that other (real) samples are sitting in some museums, just waiting to be re-discovered. The day of archaeo-meteoritics will come, I'm sure about that ;-) So, where the heck did the Palladion of Troy end up? Possibly in the Vatikan, or in some Italian museum? I'd love to check it more closely. All the best, Norbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR/AUCTIONS ENDING SOON!! LAST CALL...
Subject: AD: BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR, AUCTIONS ENDING SOON!!! Hello Everyone, I am out the door until Weds, Auctions end Tuesday, I combine shipping, Get your bids in now because there will not be another notice! Personally, like a lot of you, I appreciate it when people give me a heads up on their ebay auctions. I dont always have the time to go through all the pages daily so for those of you who appreciate it take advantage of the glorious bargins! This is my biggest and most discounted SALE of the year! Over 100 Auctions ending in 24 hours or less! I will be gone part of tomorrow, so I will not be able to give you a heads up at the last minute so get your bids in early. Great items and you really will want to check them out. I will combine shipping on all items. There are also new items in my ebay store, with over 500 meteorites to choose from! SEE ALL Auctions at: http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfti dZ2QQsclZ2QQtZkm OR http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsu bZ0QQftidZ2QQtZkm ENDING SOON! A thin and large slice of NWA 482, Lunar at only $2.25 ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitemitem=200056694145 NWA 2378 (Fairly New), H3.5, Large slice, weighs 89.61 grams!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056714838 Super RARE and Beautiful slice of GUJBA, 5 gram, with amazing inclusions. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200058214921 A 33 gram slice of TAFASSASSET, Super Rare and the only one of its kind, Carbonaceous Chondrite, CR Anomolous! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200058219250 A rare polymict Eucrite slice, worth over $200.00 ! Still at 0.99 cents!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056697506 A large Mesosiderite with beautiful features.. 91 grams and still a steal! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056708540 Just a few years ago this H7 would of cost $1000.00 !! Check it out http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056713953 A 940 gram Lahoma endcut The best deal of the year! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200059379469 A 155 gram, super beautiful Lazbuddie, Texas, very rare and this is a top collectors piece! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200059394827 A classic CV3, with beautiful features, 9.35 grams and still only $1.50 per gram !!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200059394827 124 gram slice of Lahoma at only $10.50, this specimen is a beauty and worth 30 times that price! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056699845 and about 70 more great auctions . PLUS, Many other great items to choose from. ALSO, if you see something in my ebay store that you like, but the price is scary, this week I am open to some wheeling and dealing. I just might accept your $$offer or trade. You never know unless you try!!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS and MUCH PEACE!!! Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] apology
Hello list.I sincerely want to apoligize to the met list and the IMCA for getting them involved in a really silly dispute.I was totally wrong concerning the validity of the sikote-alin that I had traded for with tomas jakubowski.He is a member in good standing with the IMCA,and because of my past deeds,I am not.I hope that there will be no hard feelings with tomas and myself.I just felt something was wrong,but like everything else,I did not go thru the correct channels.Next time I will not involve the metlist at all.I again am sincerely sorry.I really want to start making amends to all on the list that have had bad dealings with me.I again am truly sorry.There is a new year coming and I really want to start gaining the respect of people of whom I know and would like to know on this list.There are alot of great people on this list.Why I went south I will never know.I guess it was just my ignorance and the almighty dollar getting to me.I really want to start over,as they say and begin anew.I hope somewhere in peoples hearts I can be an allie and not a foe.Again sorry to tomas and all involved in this mes I created.Also a great way to go to jim strope for helping me in this mess. steve arnold,chicago,usa.. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] apology
Oh Geeesee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:57:28 -0800 (PST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] apology Hello list.I sincerely want to apoligize to the met list and the IMCA for getting them involved in a really silly dispute.I was totally wrong concerning the validity of the sikote-alin that I had traded for with tomas jakubowski.He is a member in good standing with the IMCA,and because of my past deeds,I am not.I hope that there will be no hard feelings with tomas and myself.I just felt something was wrong,but like everything else,I did not go thru the correct channels.Next time I will not involve the metlist at all.I again am sincerely sorry.I really want to start making amends to all on the list that have had bad dealings with me.I again am truly sorry.There is a new year coming and I really want to start gaining the respect of people of whom I know and would like to know on this list.There are alot of great people on this list.Why I went south I will never know.I guess it was just my ignorance and the almighty dollar getting to me.I really want to start over,as they say and begin anew.I hope somewhere in peoples hearts I can be an allie and not a foe.Again sorry to tomas and all involved in this mes I created.Also a great way to go to jim strope for helping me in this mess. steve arnold,chicago,usa.. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Holiday Sale - 2 Days Only!!
Annual Holiday Sale- 2 days Only.. Palpay accepted for Christmas delivery. Portales Valley 40g ..thick metal veins and only 2mm thin; a brilliant specimen. Sale $800 Pultusk 5.3g broken individual, two puzzle pieces covered with rich black crust. Sale $39.75 Bensour 22.0g Individual w/ fresh break revealing pristine, vanilla-colored interior. Sale $100 Bensour 5.84g Fragment, one side almost completely fusion-crusted (jet black). Sale $25 Gujba 3.9g ultra-thin part slice. Sale $150 Messina 0.552g crusted fragment with large metal flake. Sale $125 FREE USPS PRIORITY MAIL postage included, Paypal accepted. Please contact me off list for photos. Thank you! Cheers, Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] METEORITE Magazine - May 2004 issue - AD
Greetings List: For those looking for the May 2004 issue of METEORITE magazine: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200060645486 Thanks for your time. Juris Breikss [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chinese scientists or experts on meteorite
Hi list, I'm a beginner in collecting meteorites. Among meteorites i bought, some are genuine, but more are fake, i guess. So, i think the most urgent thing for me now is to find one expert on meteorite for him to teach me identifying the fakes. Does anyone here know one expert who lives in beijing, china? If you know, plz recommend me one off list. Many thanks. Merry Christmas to All Miss Ma Beijing, China __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Met Friends Auction Catalog (Ad interest)
Hi fellow list members, You can now view the handsome visages of our fellow meteorite aficionados, Joseph Robertson Thomas Grau at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/MeteoriteFriends.html In addition, Alain Carion has submitted special specimens to the auction, bringing the total to date to 98 items which can be seen at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction07.html Special, rare and fascinating items are still being accepted. Best wishes, Michael -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] apology
This will be your seventh, or eighth time at making amends, being good all over again. May I suggest you get a tattoo of a large index finger pointed up, and a thumb pointing to the left put in living color on your forehead for all to see. DF steve arnold wrote: Hello list.I sincerely want to apoligize to the met list and the IMCA for getting them involved in a really silly dispute.I was totally wrong concerning the validity of the sikote-alin that I had traded for with tomas jakubowski.He is a member in good standing with the IMCA,and because of my past deeds,I am not.I hope that there will be no hard feelings with tomas and myself.I just felt something was wrong,but like everything else,I did not go thru the correct channels.Next time I will not involve the metlist at all.I again am sincerely sorry.I really want to start making amends to all on the list that have had bad dealings with me.I again am truly sorry.There is a new year coming and I really want to start gaining the respect of people of whom I know and would like to know on this list.There are alot of great people on this list.Why I went south I will never know.I guess it was just my ignorance and the almighty dollar getting to me.I really want to start over,as they say and begin anew.I hope somewhere in peoples hearts I can be an allie and not a foe.Again sorry to tomas and all involved in this mes I created.Also a great way to go to jim strope for helping me in this mess. steve arnold,chicago,usa.. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] good faith trade
ex-member.the same of me, but he create problems when sale meteorites, me no Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: In a message dated 12/17/2006 9:49:22 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Campo del Cielo this??? Uhauhauhauhaits well visible this is a SA. I not understand why IMCA not accept my subscription and after have accept persons type steve arnold chicagomistery Matteo --- Steve Arnold - Chicago is not a Member of the IMCA. Please fell free to go to _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) , click on Member then on Member List for a current list of Members in good standing. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR/AUCTIONS ENDING SOON!! LAST CALL...
_ From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:40 AM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: FW: BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR/AUCTIONS ENDING SOON!! _ Subject: AD: BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR, AUCTIONS ENDING SOON!!! Hello Everyone, I am out the door until Weds, Auctions end Tuesday, I combine shipping, Get your bids in now because there will not be another notice! Personally, like a lot of you, I appreciate it when people give me a heads up on their ebay auctions. I don't always have the time to go through all the pages daily. so for those of you who appreciate it. take advantage of the glorious bargins! This is my biggest and most discounted SALE of the year! Over 100 Auctions ending in 24 hours or less! I will be gone part of tomorrow, so I will not be able to give you a heads up at the last minute.so get your bids in early. Great items and you really will want to check them out. I will combine shipping on all items. There are also new items in my ebay store, with over 500 meteorites to choose from! SEE ALL Auctions at: http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfti dZ2QQsclZ2QQtZkm OR http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsu bZ0QQftidZ2QQtZkm ENDING SOON! A thin and large slice of NWA 482, Lunar. at only $2.25 ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitemitem=200056694145 item=200056694145 NWA 2378 (Fairly New), H3.5, Large slice, weighs 89.61 grams!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056714838 item=200056714838 Super RARE and Beautiful slice of GUJBA, 5 gram, with amazing inclusions. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200058214921 item=200058214921 A 33 gram slice of TAFASSASSET, Super Rare and the only one of its kind, Carbonaceous Chondrite, CR Anomolous! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200058219250 item=200058219250 A rare polymict Eucrite slice, worth over $200.00 ! Still at 0.99 cents!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056697506 item=200056697506 A large Mesosiderite with beautiful features.. 91 grams and still a steal! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056708540 item=200056708540 Just a few years ago this H7 would of cost $1000.00 !! Check it out. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056713953 item=200056713953 A 940 gram Lahoma endcut. The best deal of the year! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200059379469 item=200059379469 A 155 gram, super beautiful Lazbuddie, Texas, very rare and this is a top collectors piece! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200059394827 item=200059394827 A classic CV3, with beautiful features, 9.35 grams and still only $1.50 per gram !!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200059394827 item=200059394827 124 gram slice of Lahoma at only $10.50, this specimen is a beauty and worth 30 times that price! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056699845 item=200056699845 and about 70 more great auctions.. PLUS, Many other great items to choose from. ALSO, if you see something in my ebay store that you like, but the price is scary, this week I am open to some wheeling and dealing. I just might accept your $$offer or trade. You never know unless you try!!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS and MUCH PEACE!!! Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A problem with terminology
Phenocrysts are not inclusions, but may have inclusions. Clasts are inclusions if they were very minor components incorporated with or after formation of the whole rock, or host rock (e.g. a breccia is clastic, but it would make no sense to call all clasts within that rock inclusions). This is arbitrary to some degree, since percentages of total rock composition must be standardized for the sake of practical classification, although formation mechanisms are highlighted predictably by recognizing specific grades or proportions of components of rock. Fuzziness abounds ... . Xenoliths are not xenocrysts, but xenolithic rock may bear xenocrysts derived from xenolithic material also incorporated. Autoliths, xenoliths, and xenocrysts are clasts by definition, but their presence does not necessarily make a rock clastic/brecciated. Many individual crystals described in analyses of igneous meteoritic material, like basaltic eucrites and many shergottites as clasts are actually phenocrystic (or glomerocrystic). Phenocrysts are not clasts. Glomerocrysts are not clasts. Clasts in breccias are individual fragments of either the same rock or another rock within a matrix of melt, fused ash, fine-grained sediment interlocked with clasts and precipitated minerals, or chemical precipitates. A breccia may or may not be dominated by a single lithology, but always contains macroscopic chaotic or partially sorted arrangements of clasts. Detrital sedimentary rock may have homogeneous macroscopic grains, but are well-sorted, with spaces between clasts proportionate. When heterogeneous, some detrital sedimentary rocks are termed microbreccias, such as greywackes and arkosic sandstones, but must show bimodal grain size and/or poor sorting of angular/sub-angular components (a result of local fragmentation), within a detrital matrix. Pyroclastic rocks are indistinct and bridge formation mechanism-defined classes; materials like ash-fall tuff grade into true, or detrital/clastic sedimentary rock if deposited in wet environments (settling in/with unconsolidated detrital material) or reworked in terrestrial environments, but ignimbrites (welded tuffs) fuse upon formation, although they usually contain a substantial percentage of xenolithic/xenocrystic clasts, not to mention autoliths and phenocrysts. Autolithic materials in pyroclastic rock are also termed clasts. Chondrites are petrogenetically similar to pyroclastic rock: accreted chondrules solidify (quench/crystallize) and accrete within microclastic accretionary matrix ... or did they? Forgive my quibbling, but I can imagine that unspecific use of the term clast contributes to misunderstanding. If I need correction, I will accept it. -Thaddeus __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA meteorites whole sale %50 reduce
Dear list, Happy Christmas for all of you. I'm offering NWA material.more great stuff for very good prices. Large Chondrites,for just $75 dollars per kilo.. Please contact me off list for pictures and more informations. My very best wishes Aziz Abdelaziz Alhyane Morocco 83500 Phone :+21261655060 Fax:+21228237602 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] apology
Right! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] apology Oh Geeesee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:57:28 -0800 (PST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] apology Hello list.I sincerely want to apoligize to the met list and the IMCA for getting them involved in a really silly dispute.I was totally wrong concerning the validity of the sikote-alin that I had traded for with tomas jakubowski.He is a member in good standing with the IMCA,and because of my past deeds,I am not.I hope that there will be no hard feelings with tomas and myself.I just felt something was wrong,but like everything else,I did not go thru the correct channels.Next time I will not involve the metlist at all.I again am sincerely sorry.I really want to start making amends to all on the list that have had bad dealings with me.I again am truly sorry.There is a new year coming and I really want to start gaining the respect of people of whom I know and would like to know on this list.There are alot of great people on this list.Why I went south I will never know.I guess it was just my ignorance and the almighty dollar getting to me.I really want to start over,as they say and begin anew.I hope somewhere in peoples hearts I can be an allie and not a foe.Again sorry to tomas and all involved in this mes I created.Also a great way to go to jim strope for helping me in this mess. steve arnold,chicago,usa.. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] apology
Deja vu or deja doodoo? John At 06:57 PM 12/18/2006, steve arnold wrote: Hello list.I sincerely want to apoligize to the met list and the IMCA for getting them involved in a really silly dispute.I was totally wrong concerning the validity of the sikote-alin that I had traded for with tomas jakubowski.He is a member in good standing with the IMCA,and because of my past deeds,I am not.I hope that there will be no hard feelings with tomas and myself.I just felt something was wrong,but like everything else,I did not go thru the correct channels.Next time I will not involve the metlist at all.I again am sincerely sorry.I really want to start making amends to all on the list that have had bad dealings with me.I again am truly sorry.There is a new year coming and I really want to start gaining the respect of people of whom I know and would like to know on this list.There are alot of great people on this list.Why I went south I will never know.I guess it was just my ignorance and the almighty dollar getting to me.I really want to start over,as they say and begin anew.I hope somewhere in peoples hearts I can be an allie and not a foe.Again sorry to tomas and all involved in this mes I created.Also a great way to go to jim strope for helping me in this mess. steve arnold,chicago,usa.. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] apology
Steve, There is an old saying actions speak louder than words. Let me repeat that ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!! You've apologized many times in the past and yet have contined to behave and act like a jerk. Can you change your ways and behave? In the spirit of the holiday season, I REALLY hope so. Time and YOUR ACTIONS will tell. We're all watching you... Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] apology Hello list.I sincerely want to apoligize to the met list and the IMCA for getting them involved in a really silly dispute.I was totally wrong concerning the validity of the sikote-alin that I had traded for with tomas jakubowski.He is a member in good standing with the IMCA,and because of my past deeds,I am not.I hope that there will be no hard feelings with tomas and myself.I just felt something was wrong,but like everything else,I did not go thru the correct channels.Next time I will not involve the metlist at all.I again am sincerely sorry.I really want to start making amends to all on the list that have had bad dealings with me.I again am truly sorry.There is a new year coming and I really want to start gaining the respect of people of whom I know and would like to know on this list.There are alot of great people on this list.Why I went south I will never know.I guess it was just my ignorance and the almighty dollar getting to me.I really want to start over,as they say and begin anew.I hope somewhere in peoples hearts I can be an allie and not a foe.Again sorry to tomas and all involved in this mes I created.Also a great way to go to jim strope for helping me in this mess. steve arnold,chicago,usa.. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Republic of Palau Nantan Coin
Dear List, Given the proclivity for rusting in Nantans, what is the likelihood of the Nantans in the Palau coins deteriorating? Thomas __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2006
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[meteorite-list] Ad - eBay auctions closing
Greetings all and Merry Christmas I have a number of eBay auctions including 2 lunars -.15 and .29 grams, a martian 0.26 grams closing today. One lunar and the martian are less than $125/gm at this point, the other lunar NWA482 with a bit of crust is still only $500/gm. A 25 gram lot of 2-4 gram tatahouines still at only $4/gm. Numerous others Dag 779 howardite, Kilabo slice, Mount Egerton, Norton county, millbillillie, LaCriolla, a tektite with what looks like a stone imbedded in it, and others. They can all be seen at http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=katy2kary -- Eric Olson 7682 Firethorn Dr Fayetteville, NC 28311 http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Republic of Palau Nantan Coin
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:33:09 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Dear List, Given the proclivity for rusting in Nantans, what is the likelihood of the Nantans in the Palau coins deteriorating? Thomas Well, when I think of well made, long lasting items I certainly think of the Republic of Palau. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) Republic of Palau Nantan Coin
Let me be the first to say that I will be offering for sale, a Republic of Palau Nantan Coin Repair Kit. Te kit will contain several fragments of the nantans meteorite and a tube of Super Glue. Cost is only $29.95. Shipping is extra. Dave - Original Message - From: Thomas Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Republic of Palau Nantan Coin Dear List, Given the proclivity for rusting in Nantans, what is the likelihood of the Nantans in the Palau coins deteriorating? Thomas __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
