Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 Eucrite Xpol micrographs

[STARSANDSCOPES]

In a message dated 4/6/2007 9:29:52 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom,

Outstanding!

I also liked the  super high 1600x magnification.  The metal bleb is awesome. 
Is this  perhaps toilet?

I should be receiving my 3159 thin section within the  month and now can't 
wait to get it.

Cheers,

Mike  Tettenborn

Hi Mike thanks for the compliment.  I hate the way spell  checkers set me up. 
 I have sent out some funny ones.

I hate to  guess what I am looking at, I just don't have the experience.   
Additionally, things that look one way in Xpol, may have a very different look  
in incident light.  Perhaps someone on the list could answer?

You  will enjoy your thin.  It it covered or polished?  This thin I used  was 
a loan from Jeff Hodges, a very fine polished thin he had special made for  
me to do reflected light imaging on.
 
Tom
 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available right now.

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

My ex Seymchan slice it had the same patterns and I not have
pay $80/gr..for similar price I prefear buy Esquel.

Matteo

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Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available
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Data : Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:59:44 -0700 (PDT)

> Ok, I have loaded a page of the new pallasite slices
> just now. Check these babies out! Does anyone know of
> a pallasite with an etch pattern similar to this one?
> Glorieta Mountain is the only one I can think of that
> is similar to this one.
> 
> http://www.meteoriteguy.com/catalog/pallasiteslices.htm
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Magnetic rock with free metal inclusions, any idea?

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

for what I seen its a classic Gabbro

Matteo

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Data : Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:51:25 +0200

> Hi ALL,
> some months ago I found a strange green-white rock, it's
> about 55x35x20mm for about 60g.
> It attracts the magnet like a LL6 meteorite, Bensour or
> Benguerir.
> 
> Some days ago I cut this rock and inside I found some oval
> white inclusions and a lot of magnetic metallic clast.
> 
> Here you can find some pictures:
> http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/outside.jpg
> http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/slice.jpg
> http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/metal.jpg
> 
> Any idea is welcome :-) !!
> 
> Regards
> 
> <><><><>
> Francesco Moser
> http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/
> IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 Eucrite Xpol micrographs

[tett]

Damn spell checker!!!

Lets try troilite!!!  Not toilet

Cheers and I am way too tired after a day in Toronto with relatives and a 
three hour drive home.


Mike


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Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:29 PM
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Tom,

Outstanding!

I also liked the super high 1600x magnification.  The metal bleb is 
awesome. Is this perhaps toilet?


I should be receiving my 3159 thin section within the month and now can't 
wait to get it.


Cheers,

Mike Tettenborn


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To: 
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 Eucrite Xpol micrographs



Hi List,  This is Tom Phillips, I just  posted (With the help of Paul,
Meteorite Times) some great new  micrographs.  Most of my images are high
magnification in reflected light  but the NWA 3159 was so beautiful in 
Xpol you have to

look.

Go to my  Gallery   http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/

And pull  up the NWA 3159 400X (There is a red NEW next to it) and let me
know what you  think.

Thanks,  Tom




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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 Eucrite Xpol micrographs

[Darren Garrison]

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:29:28 -0400, you wrote:

>I also liked the super high 1600x magnification.  The metal bleb is awesome. 
>Is this perhaps toilet?

I think that you may need to update that spellchecker.
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 Eucrite Xpol micrographs

[tett]

Tom,

Outstanding!

I also liked the super high 1600x magnification.  The metal bleb is awesome. 
Is this perhaps toilet?


I should be receiving my 3159 thin section within the month and now can't 
wait to get it.


Cheers,

Mike Tettenborn


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To: 
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 Eucrite Xpol micrographs



Hi List,  This is Tom Phillips, I just  posted (With the help of Paul,
Meteorite Times) some great new  micrographs.  Most of my images are high
magnification in reflected light  but the NWA 3159 was so beautiful in 
Xpol you have to

look.

Go to my  Gallery   http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/

And pull  up the NWA 3159 400X (There is a red NEW next to it) and let me
know what you  think.

Thanks,  Tom




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Re: [meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April issue of Meteorite-Times

[Dave Freeman mjwy]

Good luck Bob!
List, I would just die to know who is catching how many of my trout and 
where and what they are hitting on.  I can ask my buddies but I fear it 
would be offensive if I asked strangers these questions.
I guess I shall go hunt rocks in the morning, drive 5 miles to a good 
spot, or 10 to search for RS002

Dave F.

Robert Verish wrote:


Ruben, Sonny, innocent bystanders,

Why do you guys pick a Friday night to start a
discussion so near and dear to my heart?  
When do you guys go meteorite hunting?  On weekdays?  
I've gotta finish packing and get up in a few hours to

drive to where I'm going to search.

Nevertheless these are all good questions.
But your scenarios are being taken to the extreme.

Looking forward to describing these specific cases
when and where there are benefits to numbering finds
in overlapping strewn fields.  Until then...

Peace, out!
Bob V.

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[meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April issue of Meteorite-Times

[Robert Verish]

Ruben, Sonny, innocent bystanders,

Why do you guys pick a Friday night to start a
discussion so near and dear to my heart?  
When do you guys go meteorite hunting?  On weekdays?  
I've gotta finish packing and get up in a few hours to
drive to where I'm going to search.

Nevertheless these are all good questions.
But your scenarios are being taken to the extreme.

Looking forward to describing these specific cases
when and where there are benefits to numbering finds
in overlapping strewn fields.  Until then...

Peace, out!
Bob V.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April issue of Meteorite-Times

[wahlperry]

Hi Bob,


If anything, Sonny is probably making reference to a
dry lake that we were both hunting (keep in mind this
was many years ago). We were hunting independently,
but each know what the other was finding. Since I was
already given an approved provisional name, I offered
to get Sonny numbers for his first 10 finds. And out
of professional courtesy, Sonny supplied me with the
requisite mass, date of find, and coordinates info.



But I took too long getting the numbers from NomComm
and by the time he got his first set of numbers he had
already made many more finds, so he lost interest in
this process. And now, years later, we're still
debating whether this is "a waste of time", or NOT.


I gave you the information for your own records. As for the provisional 
numbers I never asked, nor wanted them. Why should I get a number for 
every fragment form that location. All or alot of the fragments or 
pieces would fit together . This was the same story for most of the 
finds.I don't think it is the right thing to do ,getting provisional 
for every fragment. But if they were complete meteorites ,that is a 
different story! I never lost interest in the process. Every thing that 
was found was recorded.


What about getting every meteorite from Franconia numbered, and every 
piece a provisional number. If I received a provisional number for 
every fragment of meteorites found in Nevada and California it would be 
over a thousand. On one California lake I found 50 fragments over a 
large area , a thin section was done on a couple pieces. The thin 
section showed it was the same meteorite. Why would want numbers for 
every fragment?



>Guess I'm just jealous that Sonny gets to do things

his way, and I'm forced to abide by "guidelines





Sonny

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April issue of 
Meteorite-Times


Hello List,

This subject may be Off-Topic given the recent threads
and small percentage of Nevada meteorites that are
represented in our collections, but I wanted to say
something before someone else jumped into this
discussion and got defensive about California Dry
Lakes.

Sonny isn't talking about any one dry lake in
particular (i.e. Coyote) but is talking about the
current numbering convention on all dry lakes in
general.

If anything, Sonny is probably making reference to a
dry lake that we were both hunting (keep in mind this
was many years ago). We were hunting independently,
but each know what the other was finding. Since I was
already given an approved provisional name, I offered
to get Sonny numbers for his first 10 finds. And out
of professional courtesy, Sonny supplied me with the
requisite mass, date of find, and coordinates info.

But I took too long getting the numbers from NomComm
and by the time he got his first set of numbers he had
already made many more finds, so he lost interest in
this process. And now, years later, we're still
debating whether this is "a waste of time", or NOT.

More about this later, but for now all I'll say is
that "I don't make the rules." There are "guidelines"
that the NomComm insists that I abide by, and insists
that I don't invent any numbering scheme of my own:



Guess I'm just jealous that Sonny gets to do things
his way, and I'm forced to abide by "guidelines".

Thanks for the info, Sonny, and I'll make the
revisions,
Bob V.

P.S. - The display at the Flandreau Planetarium led me
to believe that Blennert had found this specimen, but
it's very likely that he got it from Sonny.

-
[meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April
issue of Meteorite-Times
wahlperry at aol.com wahlperry at aol.com
Fri Apr 6 18:26:41 EDT 2007


Hi Bob ,and List,

With the new Nevada Meteorite, Starvation Flat . I
found 4 meteorites .
With these meteorite, I also found many fragments,
over 100 small pieces . I don't think that I should
get numbers for all of the fragments . That would be a
waste of time. It would be like finding 100 fragments
along a California Dry lake bed and having every piece
classified and numbered.



"This particular fragment depicted in the above image

was found by John Blennert of Tucson, Arizona. It is
assumed that the above fragment is one of these
original "4 Pieces" called out in Met Bull #91."<

The meteorite in the picture is one of the many
fragments that were found form Starvation #3



"In the future, should another meteorite fragment be

found in the Starvation Flat area, but not at the same
coordinates as the original find, it would be prudent
to get a provisional number assigned to it most likely
Starvation Flat 002) particularly if there is no
intention to have that find undergo an involved
pairing process."<

The correct number would be 005 ! I think you should
change your post fr

Re: [meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April issue of Meteorite-Times

[Ruben Garcia]

Hi Bob, Sonny, Moni and List,

I have some questions regarding this subject. First of
all, I don't want this to sound like I completely
agree with Sonny. I don't. In fact we disagree quite
vehemently on my aspects regarding meteorites and
meteorite hunting. 

You, Moni and Sonny are fantastic meteorite hunters
and for that I respect you all.

However, in this case it seems to me that Sonny has a
good point. Why would we want to get a provisional
number on every single meteorite we find. Especially
when we find them within feet of known meteorite
finds.(Keep in mind I'm not saying that you made up
the rules, but you do seem to agree with them) 
If they are found in the same area and look the same
shouldn't we assume that they more than likely pair?

Do we have to classify/pair every meteorite we find?

I may have misunderstood an email sent to me by Moni
when she parroted this mantra. She said, "don't forget
to get numbers for your recent finds". The only
problem is that the recent finds she was talking about
were Holbrook and Glorieta 

If we have to get numbers for every single find, even
ones that are found within feet of each other and look
alike, then she is right. But doesn't this bog down
the system with needless pairing and classifying of
like meteorites?

I mean really, who cares if every once in a while
someone finds an OC meteorite that more than likely
pairs with another and doesn't get a number? I've
found hundreds of meteorites (Glorieta, Gold Basin,
Franconia, Holbrook)and never considered getting
numbers for them. Why should we?

I am truly asking out of ignorance and really don't
understand. Is this really what you/Nomcom are saying?




Ruben Garcia
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[meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April issue of Meteorite-Times

[Robert Verish]

Hello List,

This subject may be Off-Topic given the recent threads
and small percentage of Nevada meteorites that are
represented in our collections, but I wanted to say
something before someone else jumped into this
discussion and got defensive about California Dry
Lakes.

Sonny isn't talking about any one dry lake in
particular  (i.e. Coyote) but is talking about the
current numbering convention on all dry lakes in
general.  

If anything, Sonny is probably making reference to a
dry lake that we were both hunting (keep in mind this
was many years ago).  We were hunting independently,
but each know what the other was finding.  Since I was
already given an approved provisional name, I offered
to get Sonny numbers for his first 10 finds.  And out
of professional courtesy, Sonny supplied me with the
requisite mass, date of find, and coordinates info.  

But I took too long getting the numbers from NomComm
and by the time he got his first set of numbers he had
already made many more finds, so he lost interest in
this process.  And now, years later, we're still
debating whether this is "a waste of time", or NOT.

More about this later, but for now all I'll say is
that "I don't make the rules."  There are "guidelines"
that the NomComm insists that I abide by, and insists
that I don't invent any numbering scheme of my own:  



Guess I'm just jealous that Sonny gets to do things
his way, and I'm forced to abide by "guidelines".   

Thanks for the info, Sonny, and I'll make the
revisions,
Bob V.

P.S. - The display at the Flandreau Planetarium led me
to believe that Blennert had found this specimen, but
it's very likely that he got it from Sonny.

-
[meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April
issue of Meteorite-Times
wahlperry at aol.com wahlperry at aol.com
Fri Apr 6 18:26:41 EDT 2007


Hi Bob ,and List,

With the new Nevada Meteorite, Starvation Flat . I
found 4 meteorites .
With these meteorite, I also found many fragments,
over 100 small pieces . I don't think that I should
get numbers for all of the fragments . That would be a
waste of time. It would be like finding 100 fragments
along a California Dry lake bed and having every piece
classified and numbered.


>"This particular fragment depicted in the above image
was found by John Blennert of Tucson, Arizona. It is
assumed that the above fragment is one of these
original "4 Pieces" called out in Met Bull #91."<

The meteorite in the picture is one of the many
fragments that were found form Starvation #3


>"In the future, should another meteorite fragment be
found in the Starvation Flat area, but not at the same
coordinates as the original find, it would be prudent
to get a provisional number assigned to it most likely
Starvation Flat 002) particularly if there is no
intention to have that find undergo an involved
pairing process."<

The correct number would be 005 ! I think you should
change your post from Nevada Pic of the Day , To
fishing for Nevada Meteorite information of the Day!

Thanks,

Sonny 
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[meteorite-list] NWA 3159 Eucrite Xpol micrographs

[STARSANDSCOPES]

Hi List,  This is Tom Phillips, I just  posted (With the help of Paul, 
Meteorite Times) some great new  micrographs.  Most of my images are high 
magnification in reflected light  but the NWA 3159 was so beautiful in Xpol you 
have to 
look.

Go to my  Gallery   http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/

And pull  up the NWA 3159 400X (There is a red NEW next to it) and let me 
know what you  think.

Thanks,  Tom  




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[meteorite-list] Disko Island pic of day 3/31

[debfred]

Robert and List, Looking at this slice from Disko it seems to show Dendritic 
Iron crystals, It looks more like dendridic silver. This is something I have 
never seen in Putorano. Putorano has blebs and blobs. Also I believe that 
Denmark limits visiting and collecting on Disko. If anyone knows for sure I 
would appreciate that information.
 Regards, Fred Olsen, Denver
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Magnetic rock with free metal inclusions, any idea?

[PolandMET]

Here you can find some pictures:
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/outside.jpg
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/slice.jpg
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/metal.jpg

Any idea is welcome :-) !!


Matteo lost his newly found italian mars rock in your garden ? You was lucky
to find it but now he know where he lost it

:D

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[meteorite-list] Magnetic rock with free metal inclusions, any idea?

[Moser Francesco]

Hi ALL,
some months ago I found a strange green-white rock, it's about 55x35x20mm
for about 60g.
It attracts the magnet like a LL6 meteorite, Bensour or Benguerir.

Some days ago I cut this rock and inside I found some oval white inclusions
and a lot of magnetic metallic clast.

Here you can find some pictures:
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/outside.jpg
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/slice.jpg
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/metal.jpg

Any idea is welcome :-) !!

Regards

<><><><>
Francesco Moser
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/
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[meteorite-list] Re Nevada picture of the day / April issue of Meteorite-Times

[wahlperry]

Hi Bob ,and List,

With the new Nevada Meteorite, Starvation Flat . I found 4 meteorites . 
With these meteorite, I also found many fragments, over 100 small 
pieces . I don't think that I should get numbers for all of the 
fragments . That would be a waste of time. It would be like finding 100 
fragments along a California Dry lake bed and having every piece 
classified and numbered.


This particular fragment depicted in the above image was found by John 
Blennert of Tucson, Arizona. It is assumed that the above >fragment is 
one of these original "4 Pieces" called out in Met Bull #91.


The meteorite in the picture is one of the many fragments that were 
found form Starvation #3


In the future, should another meteorite fragment be found in the 
Starvation Flat area, but not at the same coordinates as the original 
>find, it would be prudent to get a provisional number assigned to it 
(most likely Starvation Flat 002) particularly if there is no intention 

to have that find undergo an involved pairing process.


The correct number would be 005 ! I think you should change your post 
from Nevada Pic of the Day , To fishing for Nevada Meteorite 
information of the Day!


Thanks,

Sonny







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[meteorite-list] Searching for the Grandest Asteroid Tour

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=1335

Searching for the Grandest Asteroid Tour
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
April 05, 2007

Asteroids are Earth's closest celestial neighbors, sometimes passing
closer to Earth than even the Moon. And yet, to date, only two
spacecraft have ever remained in proximity to one of these bodies. Last
month, orbit mechanics experts from around the world met to discuss
methods for finding the best possible spacecraft trajectory, or flight
path, for visiting a sequence of asteroids. The gathering was part of
the second Global Trajectory Optimisation Competition, organized by JPL.

The idea of an asteroid grand tour is a celestial analogue to the Grand
Tour embarked upon by Renaissance travelers seeking to further their
cultural knowledge of Europe. Just as the traveler had to judge
carefully which cities to visit based on his or her available resources,
so must designers of a spacecraft flight path contend with limited
resources and constraints. Such restrictions include the rocket's
ability to launch the spacecraft into space, the strength of the
spacecraft's thruster, orbital positions of the various asteroids over
time, and the spacecraft's longevity.

Determining the best possible trajectory within these constraints, out
of the many good ones, is not a trivial matter. It requires a
big-picture, or global, view of all the possibilities, that is, it
requires global optimization. There are many possible approaches, each
with its own strengths and weaknesses.

The inspiration for this problem was the need to study closely different
types of asteroids. By visiting a member of each of four different
asteroid groups, a spacecraft would provide insights into their chemical
composition, their structural characteristics, how they formed, and
which might be suitable for future space mining operations. Such
insights would also be critical should the need ever arise to deflect an
asteroid that is found to be on an Earth-threatening trajectory.

The problem posed by JPL's Outer Planets Mission Analysis Group for the
second competition was to design a flight path for visiting four
asteroids-- one from each group -- in the shortest amount of flight time
and with the least amount of propellant. With almost 1,000 asteroids to
choose from, more than 41 billion asteroid sequences could be
considered. That's far too many to study individually in the short time
allocated for the competition, even with the fastest computers, largest
computer clusters and best algorithms.

Fourteen teams - from Europe, Russia, China and the U.S. - sought the
elusive best possible trajectory. Their search took place over a period
of four weeks late last year, at the end of which they submitted their
top solution to be ranked against those of the other teams.

The winning trajectory was found by a team from the Polytechnic of
Turin, Italy. Two professors, Lorenzo Casalino and Guido Colasurdo,
along with Ph.D. student Matteo Rosa Sentinella and graduate student
Francesco Cacciatore, successfully and quickly screened out billions of
possible asteroid sequences to focus on the most practical ones. Their
winning trajectory, involving visits of four different asteroids in just
over nine years, was followed by trajectories from a Russian team (the
Moscow Aviation Institute and the Khrunichev State Research and
Production Space Center), and a team from the European Space Agency's
Advanced Concepts Team.

The workshop where the various teams convened for their discussions took
place in Sedona, Ariz., in conjunction with the Space Flight Mechanics
Meeting of the American Astronautical Society and the American Institute
of Aeronautics and Astronautics.

Did the competition yield the best possible trajectory? With such
complexity, it is likely impossible to say, but an educated guess, and
the insights gained by comparing the various teams' methods, would
suggest that there is still some room for improvement. The Turin team,
as winners of this year's competition, will now be organizing the Third
Global Trajectory Optimisation Competition, where various teams will
again have the opportunity to test their mettle in solving the most
challenging problems currently faced by spacecraft trajectory designers.

The Global Trajectory Optimisation Competition was instituted in 2005 by
Dario Izzo of the European Space Agency's Advanced Concepts Team. As
winners of the first competition, the JPL team organized this latest
one, with support from NASA's In-Space Propulsion Program.

For further information about asteroids and the Near-Earth Object
Program, visit: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov

For further information about the Global Trajectory Optimisation
Competition series, visit:
http://www.esa.int/gsp/ACT/mad/op/GTOC/index.htm .



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[Ruben Garcia]

Wow Mike! 
Very beautiful slices indeed.

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[meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available right now.

[Michael Farmer]

Ok, I have loaded a page of the new pallasite slices
just now. Check these babies out! Does anyone know of
a pallasite with an etch pattern similar to this one?
Glorieta Mountain is the only one I can think of that
is similar to this one.

http://www.meteoriteguy.com/catalog/pallasiteslices.htm

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[meteorite-list] Dawn's Early Light - April 2007

[Ron Baalke]

D A W N ' S  E A R L Y  L I G H T   April 
2007
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The eleventh issue of the Dawn team newsletter, Dawn's Early Light,
has been posted on the Dawn website.  Follow the links below to
view individual articles, or obtain the formatted pdf version.  We look
forward to obtaining your feedback.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Dawn Ready to Ship to Launch Site 

http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/dawn/newsletter/html/20070405/ship.html

Dawn Ready to Ship to Launch Site

Carol A. Raymond
Dawn Deputy Principal Investigator, JPL

The Dawn project successfully completed its Post-Environmental Test 
Review (PETR) on March 19th, and its Pre-Ship Review, held March 20-21, 
clearing the way for the Dawn spacecraft's trip to Cape Canaveral 
for launch preparations. The PETR assessed the completeness and 
validity of the thermal vacuum (TVAC) testing which was performed 
Jan 23-Feb 18 at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC. 
The spacecraft and instruments were put through a comprehensive 
series of performance tests to validate the spacecraft thermal 
model and operate the flight system (including instruments) in a 
flight-like manner, culminating in a test-firing of two of the 
three ion thrusters. Some rework was needed to adjust heater 
circuit setpoints and correct wiring, and the High Voltage 
Electronics Assembly was returned to JPL after TVAC for rework 
of faults not related to the TVAC testing. The HVEA rework and 
retesting has completed, and the box has been re-integrated to 
the spacecraft. Following an acoustics test at NRL, the 
spacecraft will be packed and shipped to the Astrotech 
facility near Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral.

Final assembly of the spacecraft at Astrotech involves 
attaching the 19.7-meter solar array, which folds up 
accordion-style against the spacecraft body for launch. 
The array deploys after third-stage separation when thermal 
knives cut the kevlar cords that holdback the pre-tensioned 
panels. The high-gain antenna will also be re-installed and 
a series of functional and scenario tests performed to verify 
system functionality in preparation for launch. The Dawn 
launch is scheduled for June 30th. This ten-day slip from the 
original June 20th launch date was dictated by launch vehicle 
readiness. 

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Minor Planet Symposium to be held at Dawn Launch

http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/dawn/newsletter/html/20070405/symposium.html

Christopher T. Russell
Dawn Principal Investigator, UCLA

The Dawn Science Team is planning to host a 3-day symposium 
on the formation, evolution and current state of the minor 
planets. The symposium will be held Thursday through Saturday, 
June 28-30, in Cocoa Beach, Florida in conjunction with the 
Dawn launch that is scheduled in the early evening of June 30th. 
The nearby beach provides the closest public viewing area and 
provides an excellent view of the launch pad area. The symposium 
will feature invited and contributed talks, posters and ample 
discussion time. Papers from the planetary astronomy, meteorite, 
cosmochemistry, and small body communities are most welcome.

In order confirm meeting logistics, we request that you indicate 
your interest in the symposium by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Please indicate the topic of your presentation, and whether a 
talk or poster is preferred; a title is not needed at this time. 
If there is a major slip in the launch date, and the slip is 
determined early enough, we would consider changing the date 
of the symposium. The date of the symposium has been arranged 
to accomodate minor slips with minimum inconvenience for 
travellers. Cape Canaveral is a family friendly region with 
plenty of attractions from the beach to the KSC Visitor's 
Center to theme parks so you are encouraged to bring your 
families to the meeting.

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Calibration of Dawn's Gamma Ray and Neutron Detector (GRaND) Instrument

http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/dawn/newsletter/html/20070405/grand.html

Thomas H. Prettyman
GRaND Team Lead and Dawn Co-I, Los Alamos National Laboratory

The gamma ray and neutron detector (GRaND) is designed to measure the
chemical composition of the surfaces of Vesta and Ceres. GRaND will map
the near-surface abundance of major rock forming elements, long-lived
radioactive elements, and volatiles such as H, C, N and O which are the
major constituents of ices. A cutaway view of the instrument is shown in
Fig. 1. GRaND uses heritage technology from Lunar Prospector and 2001
Mars Odyssey, including a bismuth germanate (BGO) scintillator for high
efficiency gamma ray spectroscopy and boron loaded plastic scintillators
for fast and epithermal neutron detection. GRaND also includes new
sensor technologies to improve the accuracy of elemental a

Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Fragment That Hit Illinois Home Not A

[MexicoDoug]

Hi Dave, not sure exactly how many are in the "we" who "dismissed it right
off" is as we argued the opposite and never went along.  Chris injected a
little friendly sarcasm by asking me it came from a potato canon, which now
seems ironically the funniest comment of all.  "We" posted only after
carefully watching the original video of the evidence that the assumed steep
angles that everyone is basing their numbers on looked suspect/bogus to me.
It remains a case of garbage into the calculations = garbage out with
respect to the supposed angle as far as we're concerned.  And, it wouldn't
take a pro pitcher we explained, though it would take someone fairly strong,
to have tossed it at the 42mph or less that could have done the damage.  Oh,
we wish we had a slice of Philadelphia pizza to celebrate this long awaited
resolution - the best pizza on the planet, and a couple of Coney Island, NY
franks - the best in the universe, as we all know:-)

Best wishes, and Great Health,
Doug

Dave F. wrote and Ron set him straight:

> > We did discuss it but the angle of entry, the velocity, tended to
> > dismiss it right off.
> >  A pro baseball pitcher would have had to be standing on the running
> > board of a helicopter to launch it successfully, and we all know it
> > would be hard to pitch from a helicopter.
> > Dave F
>
> But rather easy to do for any 12-year old using a slingshot. :-)
>
> Ron B.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Fragment That Hit Illinois Home Not A

[Gerald Flaherty]

I hope this inference does not shine a light into some of your less than 
noteable youthful enterprizes, Ron.[just kidding]

Jerry Flaherty
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We did discuss it but the angle of entry, the velocity, tended to
dismiss it right off.
 A pro baseball pitcher would have had to be standing on the running
board of a helicopter to launch it successfully, and we all know it
would be hard to pitch from a helicopter.
Dave F


But rather easy to do for any 12-year old using a slingshot. :-)

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Re: [meteorite-list] more meteorite talk,PLEASE

[Dave Freeman mjwy]

Dear Jerry, List;
I was laughing so hard at Sstevees post that I had to take a sedative to 
calm down. I wanted to send him an email thanking him for a great 
laugh.I do not know if he realizes that this is how horridly we find 
his repeated posts on GAO (gao-ed to death already), or trade, trade, 
tradeuntil we are sick of same stuff.
So, I find it with grand irony that the king of cruddy posts finds 
hamburger disdainful.
Of course, Chicago is the hot-dog capital of the planet (even though 
they try to steal pizza fame from NY). So maybe that is his way of 
twisting our arm to eat more bologna!

Dave F.

Jerry A. Wallace wrote:



OK!  There we have it. The pot has officially called the kettle black.

Jerry

steve arnold wrote:


Hello list.I think we have done enough talking about
hamburgers,matteo,and other non-meteorite BS.Can we
not get back to talking about meteorites?PLEASE!Hey
even taking about boring gao is better than the crap
that has been going on here the last few weeks.




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Re: [meteorite-list] more meteorite talk,PLEASE

[Jerry A. Wallace]

OK!  There we have it. The pot has officially called the kettle black.

Jerry

steve arnold wrote:

Hello list.I think we have done enough talking about
hamburgers,matteo,and other non-meteorite BS.Can we
not get back to talking about meteorites?PLEASE!Hey
even taking about boring gao is better than the crap
that has been going on here the last few weeks.




steve

Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
  Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
  www.chicagometeorites.net.Specializing
  in Gao Meteorites!
  Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites

  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Fragment That Hit Illinois Home Not A

[Ron Baalke]

> 
> We did discuss it but the angle of entry, the velocity, tended to 
> dismiss it right off. 
>  A pro baseball pitcher would have had to be standing on the running 
> board of a helicopter to launch it successfully, and we all know it 
> would be hard to pitch from a helicopter.
> Dave F

But rather easy to do for any 12-year old using a slingshot. :-)

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[meteorite-list] April Meteorite Times is up

[James Tobin]

Hello List,
The April issue of Meteorite-Times is up ready for your reading enjoyment.
http://www.meteorite-times.com
Once again we want to thank all the contributing  writers and picture 
takers.
And of course thanks to all of you who read it for keeping it fun for Paul 
and I.


Best regards,
Jim and Paul


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Re: [meteorite-list] Yes, stop the BS :P and look at this

[jeremy]

To me it looks like a transitional brecciated eucrite/howardite, with minor 
impactor inclusions.  The main impact on 4 Vesta had to be incredibly violent, 
and probably created a wider variety of lithologies than are accounted for in 
the HED achondrites.  Your new piece might be evidence of that impact, and 
could be important to the right people.  Does anyone know which institution, or 
foremost expert, would be best to contact with anomalous achondrites? I guess 
we will have to wait and see.  On a side note, hopefully NASA's Dawn probe will 
be successful, and provide insights on the matter.
Beautiful stone, and congratulations!   -Jeremy 



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[meteorite-list] Hamburgers and meteorites?

[doctor death]

I don't know of any relationship between the two. However I do recall  
Robert Crumb's underground Zap Comics about people being hammered my 
meatballs.


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Re: [meteorite-list] [OT-ish] "From the Earth to the Moon"

[Notkin]

Greg Hupe wrote:

Lets give true credit were it is due, the promoter who arranged it 
all! Lets quit giving Lang credit where it is not due, he did not 
arrange it, he helped pay the tab!


Greg:

That is giving credit where it's due. Al Lang, Bob Haag and the other 
vendors paid the tab and made Dr. Schmitt's visit possible. Mr. Waisman 
had the idea? Great! Thanks to him too.


The VENDORS at the Westward Look paid the bill, not Mr. Waisman, and 
that allowed me to meet Jack Schimtt, one of my heroes, in person. 
Watching "From the Earth to the Moon" reminded me again what a great 
experience is was to see our only astonaut/geologist speak here in 
Tucson. Sounds like it's worth a "thank you" to me.



Geoff N.
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[meteorite-list] Ad New Pallasite slices just in!

[Michael Farmer]

Ok, back to meteorites.
I have just received a FEDEX from Germany of my new
Pallasite. These were wire saw cut, and are
spectacular!
I am going to my acccountant to do my taxes but should
be home in a few hours, then I will photograph and
announce the pieces. There are NOT MANY so this is
your chance. We have really no more pieces that can be
cut, so these are all there are. So expect an email
with links later today.
Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Yes, stop the BS :P and look at this

[PolandMET]

Marcin,
very nice stone. I would wager that it is a very
highly shocked LL6 but could also be a shocked
Diogenite. Indeed the veins are similar to what I have
seen in Diogenites,, but it looks to have a little
more metal than I would expect.
Michael Farmer


Thats what it make me fool. Too many iron for eucrite/diogenite, but not 
enough for LL (no troilite) and no any single chondrule. I have two thin 
section so I let it examine by prof Karwowski at Silesian University in 
Sosnowiec, where I sending my samples for thin sections. He also have no 
idea what it is when watching TS under petrographic microscope.


But my first idea when I saw the crust on uncut specimen that it is eucrite.
Anyway I hope to know what it is before Ensisheim. Specimen was only 30g.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Fragment That Hit Illinois Home Not A

[Dave Freeman mjwy]

We did discuss it but the angle of entry, the velocity, tended to 
dismiss it right off. 
A pro baseball pitcher would have had to be standing on the running 
board of a helicopter to launch it successfully, and we all know it 
would be hard to pitch from a helicopter.

Dave F

Ron Baalke wrote:

I'm surprised that no one has seemed to consider the possibility 
that the metal object was simply thrown through the window by 
someone, as an act of vandalism.


Ron Baalke

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[meteorite-list] Marcin's (a)chondrite

[bernd . pauli]

Marcin wrote:

- I received from Morocco small eucrite.
- dont really look like "normal" eucrite or amphoterite.
- eucrite/howardite?
- I not see any chondrules
- even for LL chondrite this one have very little amount of  iron
- I cant see any troilite
- strong feeling that this is not eucrite.

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032a.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032b.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032c.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032d.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032e.jpg

Mike responded:

- a very highly shocked LL6
- could also be a shocked Diogenite.
- the veins similar to what I have seen in Diogenites
- it looks to have a little more metal than I would expect.

Hello Marcin, Mike, and List,

No need to feel ashamed. There are several such unclassified specimens in my
collection that have hitherto defied classification. One such stone (it also 
has these
angular clasts that may be orthopyroxenes and it also has this bluish-gray 
texture)
comes from the Hupés. It is cut in two halves, was part of the "cherry-picked" 
series
and was sold as  "a possible achondrite". It too has a little more metal than 
one would
expect in a eucrite or a howardite. I also purchased similar-looking stones 
from Dean
and, again, I am still not quite sure if I am looking at LL6 or something 
achondritic
(eucrite or howardite).

First off your meteorite looks similar to Saint-Séverin and Ensisheim, which 
would
make it an LL6 as Mike already stated but those angular clasts - if they are 
really
orthopyroxenes - could also shuffle your stone into the howardite or diogenite 
group,
both of which contain orthopyroxenes.

I can't detect any plagioclase needles as would be the case for a typical 
eucrite but
that may be a consequence of severe shock melting - again a detail Mike already
mentioned.

Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 2-6, 2007

[Ron Baalke]

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
April 2-6, 2007

o THEMIS ART #80 (Released 02 April 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070402a

o Landslide (Released 03 April 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070403a

o Arsia Vent (Released 04 April 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070404a

o South Polar Spring (Released 05 April 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070405a

o Melas Chasma (Released 06 April 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20070406a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Yes, stop the BS :P and look at this

[Michael Farmer]

Marcin, 
very nice stone. I would wager that it is a very
highly shocked LL6 but could also be a shocked
Diogenite. Indeed the veins are similar to what I have
seen in Diogenites,, but it looks to have a little
more metal than I would expect.
Michael Farmer
--- PolandMET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi folks and ladies :)
> I have problem, I dont know what I have.
> I received from Morocco small eucrite. Nice, but
> when I cut it I was 
> surprized that this one dont really look like
> "normall" eucrite or 
> amphoterite.
> After some time Im not sure if this is chondrite or
> achondrite 
> (eucrite/howardite ?).
> 
> This one could be achondrite, eucrite becouse I not
> see any chondrules, but 
> even for LL and LLLl. chondrite this one
> have very little ammount of 
> iron and I cant see any troilite. But when I look at
> this slices I have 
> strong feeling that this is not eucrite. This
> happend first time when Im not 
> sure what I see, that why I feel ashamed :D
> 
> http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032a.jpg
> http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032b.jpg
> http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032c.jpg
> http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032d.jpg
> http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032e.jpg
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Fragment That Hit Illinois Home Not A

[Chris Peterson]

The possibility was discussed. There was some question as to whether 
most vandals could throw the piece hard enough (from ground level) to 
rip through a magazine-like book and then through a particle board desk 
top.


The big objection, of course, was the angle of the fall, which should 
have been near vertical for a meteorite (outside of some very unlikely 
conditions). But at the same time, the angle seemed more vertical than 
you'd expect for something thrown by a person. The idea that it was 
flung high and far by a piece of machinery explains things nicely (a 
possibility also discussed).


Chris

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I'm surprised that no one has seemed to consider the possibility
that the metal object was simply thrown through the window by
someone, as an act of vandalism.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Fragment That Hit Illinois Home Not A

[Ron Baalke]

I'm surprised that no one has seemed to consider the possibility 
that the metal object was simply thrown through the window by 
someone, as an act of vandalism.

Ron Baalke

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[meteorite-list] Yes, stop the BS :P and look at this

[PolandMET]

Hi folks and ladies :)
I have problem, I dont know what I have.
I received from Morocco small eucrite. Nice, but when I cut it I was 
surprized that this one dont really look like "normall" eucrite or 
amphoterite.
After some time Im not sure if this is chondrite or achondrite 
(eucrite/howardite ?).


This one could be achondrite, eucrite becouse I not see any chondrules, but 
even for LL and LLLl. chondrite this one have very little ammount of 
iron and I cant see any troilite. But when I look at this slices I have 
strong feeling that this is not eucrite. This happend first time when Im not 
sure what I see, that why I feel ashamed :D


http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032a.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/MC032b.jpg
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[meteorite-list] more meteorite talk,PLEASE

[steve arnold]

Hello list.I think we have done enough talking about
hamburgers,matteo,and other non-meteorite BS.Can we
not get back to talking about meteorites?PLEASE!Hey
even taking about boring gao is better than the crap
that has been going on here the last few weeks.




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Re: [meteorite-list] [OT-ish] "From the Earth to the Moon"

[Rob McCafferty]

This miniseries made it to the UK, I forget which
channel, it may even have bee satellite. I didn't see
them all but I did see a lot of it and it was
brilliant, especially for someone who is fascinated by
it but missed all the fun (only a baby at 34). 
I think my ZX Spectrum from 1983 probably had more
computer power than the Mission control. I had the
good fortune to discuss this with Bo Bobka last year
(First pilot of Discovery and worked on the Skylab
programme. Was working behind the scenes during
Apollo). Those guys like to make as much as they can
of how little computer input they had but I think they
overstress it. 
Sophistication isn't necessary. You have a specialised
computer for a specialised job. It may have had little
power but it was superb at all it had to do.
As I put it, "if all you need to do is add up, pebbles
are fine". (I believe pebble is the translation of
abacus, incidentally)

However, out of the deep respect I have for Bobko ,
who has achieved far more than I ever will, I did not
stress my case to hard.

As an aside, I bought the book "Apollo: The epic
journey to the Moon" by David West Reynolds. It's a
cracking read with plenty of eyecandy pics. Some of
the open out panoramas are jaw dropping.
>From a non-American point of view, it's a bit "wave
the flag" sickly but I draw comfort that despite all
the pride in the achievement and communism doesn't
work rhetoric contained within, the book is printed in
China! 

I hope the author appreciates the irony.

Rob McC
--- Notkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Listees:
> 
> I wonder how many of you have seen the HBO
> mini-series "From the Earth 
> to the Moon," which was produced by Tom Hanks back
> in 1998.
> 
> It is a 12-episode drama recounting the history of
> the Apollo space 
> program. The show is somewhat similar in production
> values to Ron 
> Howard's excellent film "Apollo 13," and does a fine
> job of recreating 
> the late 1960s, Mission Control, and so on. Looking
> back at those 
> exciting times sitting here in the 21st Century, it
> is all the more 
> astonishing that we were able to put pilots on the
> Moon with what, 
> today, seems like primitive technology. I think my
> little Apple laptop 
> is more powerful than the whole Mission Control
> guidance computer  : )
> 
> I watched the series on DVD, from Netflix, and found
> it to be most 
> engaging, but you do have to sit through a couple of
> mediocre episodes. 
> Of particular interest to List members will be
> Episode 10, "Galileo was 
> Right." It follows the crew of Apollo 15 as they are
> trained in field 
> geology in California and Arizona (no Meteor Crater,
> unfortunately), 
> and the subsequent exploration of lunar craters and
> Hadley Rille by 
> Lunar Rover during their mission. Pretty much a case
> of meteorite 
> hunting on the surface of the Moon!
> 
> Astronaut/geologist Harrison "Jack" Schmitt is
> featured in Episodes 10 
> and 12. That was a treat, as a number of us had the
> pleasure of meeting 
> Jack when he was guest of honor at the Westward Look
> Resort thanks to 
> Al Lang, Bob Haag, and colleagues who arranged his
> speaking engagement 
> during the 2005 Tucson show.
> 
> Episode 5, "Spider," which details the development
> of the Lunar Module 
> was the other stand-out episode for me.
> 
> Definitely a 9 out of 10 show:  
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120570
> 
> 
> Regards to all,
> 
> Geoff N.
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Any problems with Hamburger? (OT)

[Rob McCafferty]

Having said that, I give it a week until some quack
from Ohio (just a casual observation) gets a quarter
pounder hurled through their window and claims it must
be a meteorite because
"It doesn't look anything like any rock I've seen
before"
Some "expert" will misidentify the sesame seeds as
chondrules and the brown outside of the bun as fusion
crust.
Sorry, April Fools day was a week ago!

It's nice to have a light hearted thread once in a
while
Keep havin' fun
Rob McC

--- JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Moni,
> This is what happens when the subject of a thread
> changes to 
> something totally unrelated to the original. 
> "Someone" on the list 
> took a shot at Italian food, then "someone else"
> retaliated by 
> slamming hamburgers. The subject of the original
> thread took an 
> immediate left turn, hence all the talk about
> hamburgers.  Kind of silly, huh.
> This happens a lot on boards and lists...including
> ours.
> 
> So, Moni, what do you like on your "OT" burger;-)
> 
> John
> At 10:26 PM 4/5/2007, Moni Waiblinger wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >
> >did I miss something?
> >What does a hamburger have to do with a meteorite?
> >Maybe that would be a dumb question also because it
> is possible 
> >people post even more about hamburgers.
> >Or maybe I haven't gotten to the post yet that
> would give me an 
> >answer to my question?
> >I have plenty of posts to read and please put OT
> with it, so I can 
> >just delete it.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >Moni
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Any problems with Hamburger? (OT)

[Matthias Bärmann]

Wasn't it you, Marco, who also keeps some pretty nice & fresh Ironburgers in 
his collection?


- Original Message - 
From: "Marco Langbroek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Any problems with Hamburger? (OT)



did I miss something?
What does a hamburger have to do with a meteorite?


Moni,

What, you never heard of my famous collection of carbonaceous 
hamburgers


- Marco  ;-p

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Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo's Hatred SPAM

[giovannisostero]

Hello Fred (and all),
thanks for your explanation. If misunderstandig due to unsuitable web-based 
transaltors is the origin of some conflicts in this list, then I will be glad 
to help anyone.

By the way: I have nothing against hamburgers, since in all the five trips I 
made in the USA during the past few years, I enjoyed quite a lot these kind of 
food. However, I must admit that my preference is for "Dick's last resort" 
crabs, drowns in several glasses of "Budweiser".
Cheers,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Any problems with Hamburger? (OT)

[Marco Langbroek]

did I miss something?
What does a hamburger have to do with a meteorite?


Moni,

What, you never heard of my famous collection of carbonaceous hamburgers

- Marco  ;-p

-
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Re: [meteorite-list] Any problems with Hamburger?

[Alexander Seidel]

To set that straight: as some of you will know, Andi is,
what in German is termed a "Hamburger", i.e. he is a 
citizen of the great city of Hamburg/Germany... :-)

Alex
Berlin, Stade and sometimes also Hamburg/Germany


> Ups, 
> didn't know there are real haters around.
> Hot dog?
> 
> Andi
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Adam
> Hupe
> Gesendet: Freitag, 6. April 2007 03:13
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Any problems with Hamburger?
> 
> Hamburgers are great, we were able to use them to
> bribe our way onto a private dry lake bed. The wind
> sailers love them.  Just fire some up on a grill and
> they will come running.  Dont' forget the bellywash
> (beer)!
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Andreas Gren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Anybody have any thing to say against Hamburger?
> > 
> > Its my home town, I'm born here , I live here
> > I'm a Hamburger!!!
> > 
> > I feel very discriminated about the way you talk
> > about Hamburgers.
> > Please stop this incredible treat against
> > Hamburgers, it seems really
> > Hamburgers are just a mass good to feed the masses,
> > but stop, there are
> > human beings behind.
> > 
> > Ore I'm just a Bessey Speck of "silent green"?
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > 
> > Andi silent Gren
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Im Auftrag von
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. April 2007 18:24
> > An: giovannisostero; Fredmeteorhall
> > Cc: Meteorite-list; ValparInt
> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo's Hatred SPAM
> > 
> > In all my life I have never put a feet into a
> > McDonald, for
> > me its only buiis of venoms where you eat only
> > disgusting(
> > schifezze )material. I know only the good italian
> > food all
> > world us envy
> > Hamburger its a typical USA food, here in Italy
> > never seen a
> > restourant where sale this " food "
> > 
> > Is that a new and
> > > more "educated" way to bash another culture?
> > 
> > 1000 times weel your idea of culture reading your
> > emails
> > ship to me in private.
> > 
> > Matteo
> >  
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > Da : Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > A : giovannisostero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Fredmeteorhall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Meteorite-list
> > ,
> > ValparInt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo's Hatred SPAM
> > Data : Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT)
> > 
> > > Giovanni, 
> > > sorry to differ, but only one group in this
> > country
> > > eat "freedom fries" and they are not very popular
> > > right now. About Hamburgers, funny, everyhwhere in
> > thw
> > > world I travel, I see hamburgers for sale, the
> > > McDonalds are everywhere, including places like
> > Oman,
> > > Saudi Arabia, and Thailand. Now these shops are
> > not
> > > there to feed the hoards of Americans are they? I
> > do
> > > have a favorite one on the Champs Elysee in Paris,
> > a
> > > Mcdonalds I frequent when I am in Paris, and it is
> > not
> > > to partake in their food. They have nice clean and
> > > FREE toilets! I usually notice that it is
> > overflowing
> > > with hundreds of people, 99% of whom seem to be
> > > French, NOT Americans. So perhaps you can take a
> > look
> > > around, and realize that Americans are not the
> > only
> > > people who eat hamburgers, and besides, who gives
> > a
> > > crap what kind of food people eat? Is that a new
> > and
> > > more "educated" way to bash another culture?
> > > Michael Farmer
> > > --- giovannisostero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Paul, A Matteo translator is: Three or more
> > > > bottles of red vino, a loaf of 
> > > > > Italian bread and a large slice of cheese.
> > > > 
> > > > It would be highly appreciated that discussions
> > > > based on personal bad feeelings, would not
> > > > degenerate into generalized commets about the
> > habits
> > > > of a nation or its people. Generalizations
> > > > difficultly pay dividends, expecially is a
> > > > scientific community; I do personally know
> > several
> > > > US patetented idiots, however I will never
> > extend my
> > > > scarce opinion about them to the other american
> > > > friends I have, just because all US citizens are
> > > > eating hamburgers and "freedom fries"...
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Giovanni
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Any problems with Hamburger?

[Matthias Bärmann]

Well, it's not so much off topic as one might think spontaneously.
Hamburgers look somehow shield-oriented and use to have inclusions - not so
bad for the beginning, eh?

Warning: Andi Gren, as he confessed himself, is in fact a natural born
Hamburger, but - forget it. This special species of Waterkant Mac
(=North-German H.) uses to be quite tough and, as it's told here in southern
Germany, tastes a bit fishy. So it's much, much better to get great
artifacts resp. meteorites from ;-)

Best, Matthias

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Any problems with Hamburger?



In a message dated 4/5/2007 11:22:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Moni,
This is what happens when the subject of  a thread changes to
something totally unrelated to the original.   "Someone" on the list
took a shot at Italian food, then "someone else"  retaliated by
slamming hamburgers. The subject of the original thread took  an
immediate left turn, hence all the talk about hamburgers.  Kind of  silly,
huh.
This happens a lot on boards and lists...including  ours.

So, Moni, what do you like on your "OT"  burger;-)

John
---

Yes Moni, John is right, the whole bunch got lost somewhere. Food
sometimes
has that effect on people.
I tried, with some help (thank you!) to bring them back to Meteorites
with a
contest, but their stomachs were louder than their  minds!
Go ahead delete everything.
Well, no, keep Sterling's post, the only interesting one, as usual.

Goodnight.

Anne M.  Black
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Any problems with Hamburger?

[Impactika]

In a message dated 4/5/2007 11:22:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Moni,
This is what happens when the subject of  a thread changes to 
something totally unrelated to the original.   "Someone" on the list 
took a shot at Italian food, then "someone else"  retaliated by 
slamming hamburgers. The subject of the original thread took  an 
immediate left turn, hence all the talk about hamburgers.  Kind of  silly, 
huh.
This happens a lot on boards and lists...including  ours.

So, Moni, what do you like on your "OT"  burger;-)

John
---
 
Yes Moni, John is right, the whole bunch got lost somewhere. Food sometimes  
has that effect on people.
I tried, with some help (thank you!) to bring them back to Meteorites  with a 
contest, but their stomachs were louder than their  minds!  
Go ahead delete everything.
Well, no, keep Sterling's post, the only interesting one, as usual.  

Goodnight.

Anne M.  Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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