Re: [meteorite-list] Centimeter Cubes
For years this topic has come up regularly as people try and get cubes for size. Whats wrong with using a coin in your photo for size? Everybody knows what the size of a USA 10 and 25 cent coin is but if not I am sure somebody would send you one or you could get one at a local coin store or when travelling. Everybody knows somebody from the USA. Then you could get a collection of a half dozen EU and australian coins to compare if somebody really wants to take sizes into account so as to cover all bases. Or if that is to much why is a centimeter cube somehow better than a centimeter ruler? (Which everybody already has). This centimeter cube fetish thing is a solution looking for a problem. Save yourself hassle and use a ruler or a coin. People will get the idea of the size of whatever it is that you are selling. Sincerely DEAN Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Polishing work needed...Trade for material
Hello all I have a couple kilos of Chinga slices that need to be tuned up. If anyone out there has the ability to polish it up again and would like to trade for some of the pieces then let's work something out. I am wiling to take offers on just straight work for cash as well. Thanks in advance. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Centimeter Cubes
Good point, and I agree. But, I have a slightly different motive. I have wanted to get one ever since I saw one in the news papers when they announced possible fossilized bacteria in the Mars rock. (ALH1983??) This was years before I started collecting meteorites. I do failure analysis and many of my papers are peer reviewed. Placing a quarter or a scale (AKA ruler) on or near a fracture/failure has always been my MO. But, it's always looked, well, kind of cheap. ...at least for a paper that is being published. Having a centimeter cube will add a bit of professionalism to my profession. The other thing it does (in my profession) is that if I want to show the bottom or particular side of the failed object, I can orientate the cube with the position of the object. Hence, my need for the T, B, N, S, E, and W. This helps with the lay-person reading my papers. Most non-scientists only read my conclusion and look at the pictures. Picture Caption: Failed bolt pictured next to centimeter cube. Catastrophic overload bending moment is in the W direction. Fracture origin is at E I did find one and it's being shipped now. However, I became so frustrated in my search that I sent out an RFQ to several gauge makers. I'm going to have a bunch of them made for my peers and give them out as Christmas presents. Oh, yeah, The work for meteorites too. :-) Centimeter cubes: Not just for meteorites any more! Drake Justification Damerau Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes Drake Doc Dameräu NAR Section 614 L3CC member TRA 9934 L3 www.nepra.com www.rocketmaterials.org http://home.sprynet.com/~monel/home.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dean bessey Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:44 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Centimeter Cubes For years this topic has come up regularly as people try and get cubes for size. Whats wrong with using a coin in your photo for size? Everybody knows what the size of a USA 10 and 25 cent coin is but if not I am sure somebody would send you one or you could get one at a local coin store or when travelling. Everybody knows somebody from the USA. Then you could get a collection of a half dozen EU and australian coins to compare if somebody really wants to take sizes into account so as to cover all bases. Or if that is to much why is a centimeter cube somehow better than a centimeter ruler? (Which everybody already has). This centimeter cube fetish thing is a solution looking for a problem. Save yourself hassle and use a ruler or a coin. People will get the idea of the size of whatever it is that you are selling. Sincerely DEAN __ __ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Any Itqiy out there fro sale?
List, Looking for a small slice (~5 grams or there about) of Itqiy. Anyone have some? Cheers and Tahnks, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Papers on Desert and Other Meteorites Available Online Until June 18th
Dear Friends, The PDF version of an article about desert meteorites is available online until June 18, 2007. It is: Desert meteorites: a history by A. W. R. Bevan Geological Society, London, Special Publications; 2006; v. 256; p. 325-343; http://sp.lyellcollection.org/cgi/content/abstract/256/1/325 This part of The History of Meteoritics and Key Meteorite Collections: Fireballs, Falls and Finds edited by G. J. H. McCall and A. J. Bowden. Other PDF files in this book can be found at: http://sp.lyellcollection.org/content/vol256/issue1/ The PDF versions of the above and other papers in this volume will be free to download until June 18, 2007. This applies to the other papers in the Lyell collection at: http://www.lyellcollection.org/ Best Regards, Paul H. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Beware of Russians bearing Seimchan
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=81664 Chunk of Meteorite Stolen from Russian Museum 9 June 2007, Saturday A chunk of a meteorite weighing over 7 kilograms has been stolen from a museum in the remote Magadan Region in Russia's Far East on Saturday. A local Interior Ministry spokesperson explained the thieves broke into a history museum in the village of Seimchan at night and stole a part of the meteorite named after the residential place. It is supposed that the offenders have been inspired by a recent TV program, which discussed the high value of meteorite pieces on Russia's black market. The Seimchan meteorite was found in 1967 near the Seimchan gold mine in the Magadan Region. The local police authorities are still investigating the case. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Russians bearing Seimchan
Hmm, what they mean Russia's (meteorite) black market ? Selling meteorites in Russia is illegal ? I hear that only exporting is forbidden. Black market meteorites can't be more expensive than specimens legaly owned and for example Seymchan is not very rare (read difficult to buy), so that person must be very desperated or he not think long about this where he will now sell his new specimen. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Russians bearing Seimchan
It is supposed that the offenders have been inspired by a recent TV program, which discussed the high value of meteorite pieces on Russia's black market. Interesting, if it's true, then one can see, which effects can be yielded by the often so hopelessly exaggerated figures about the value of meteorites the laypeople in media or even some scientists from time to time are hawking. If the thieves would have known, that such a piece would cost let's say 3000$ only, then maybe they would thought twice, whether it would be worth to break into that museum. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Darren Garrison Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Juni 2007 17:09 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Beware of Russians bearing Seimchan http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=81664 Chunk of Meteorite Stolen from Russian Museum 9 June 2007, Saturday A chunk of a meteorite weighing over 7 kilograms has been stolen from a museum in the remote Magadan Region in Russia's Far East on Saturday. A local Interior Ministry spokesperson explained the thieves broke into a history museum in the village of Seimchan at night and stole a part of the meteorite named after the residential place. It is supposed that the offenders have been inspired by a recent TV program, which discussed the high value of meteorite pieces on Russia's black market. The Seimchan meteorite was found in 1967 near the Seimchan gold mine in the Magadan Region. The local police authorities are still investigating the case. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Russians bearing Seimchan
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 17:41:39 +0200, you wrote: If the thieves would have known, that such a piece would cost let's say 3000$ only, then maybe they would thought twice, whether it would be worth to break into that museum. Depends on how desperate the people are. Here in the US, there are people who risk their lives cutting power lines just for a few dollars worth of copper to sell. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Papers on Desert and Other Meteorites Available Online Until June 18th
Dear Paul, Fabulous resource! All list members should check it out. Many thanks, Jim Baxter Dear Friends, The PDF version of an article about desert meteorites is available online until June 18, 2007. It is: Desert meteorites: a history by A. W. R. Bevan Geological Society, London, Special Publications; 2006; v. 256; p. 325-343; http://sp.lyellcollection.org/cgi/content/abstract/256/1/325 This part of The History of Meteoritics and Key Meteorite Collections: Fireballs, Falls and Finds edited by G. J. H. McCall and A. J. Bowden. Other PDF files in this book can be found at: http://sp.lyellcollection.org/content/vol256/issue1/ The PDF versions of the above and other papers in this volume will be free to download until June 18, 2007. This applies to the other papers in the Lyell collection at: http://www.lyellcollection.org/ Best Regards, Paul H. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] gibeon main mass
Hello list.I was wondering who or what institution has the gibeon main mass? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] gibeon main mass
Hi Steve This should answer all you questions. http://www.spacerocksinc.com/August_31.html -- Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On 6/9/07, steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list.I was wondering who or what institution has the gibeon main mass? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Water you talking about?
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn12026-mars-rover-finds-puddles-on-the-planets-surface.html Mars rover finds puddles on the planet's surface 15:33 08 June 2007 NewScientist.com news service David Chandler http://space.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn12026/dn12026-2_283.jpg A new analysis of pictures taken by the exploration rover Opportunity reveals what appear to be small ponds of liquid water on the surface of Mars. The report identifies specific spots that appear to have contained liquid water two years ago, when Opportunity was exploring a crater called Endurance. It is a highly controversial claim, as many scientists believe that liquid water cannot exist on the surface of Mars today because of the planets thin atmosphere. If confirmed, the existence of such ponds would significantly boost the odds that living organisms could survive on or near the surface of Mars, says physicist Ron Levin, the report's lead author, who works in advanced image processing at the aerospace company Lockheed Martin in Arizona. Along with fellow Lockheed engineer Daniel Lyddy, Levin used images from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory's website. The resulting stereoscopic reconstructions, made from paired images from the Opportunity rover's twin cameras, show bluish features that look perfectly flat. The surfaces are so smooth that the computer could not find any surface details within those areas to match up between the two images. The imaging shows that the areas occupy the lowest parts of the terrain. They also appear transparent: some features, which Levin says may be submerged rocks or pebbles, can be seen below the plane of the smooth surface. Smooth surface The smoothness and transparency of the features could suggest either water or very clear ice, Levin says. The surface is incredibly smooth, and the edges are in a plane and all at the same altitude, he says. If they were ice or some other material, they'd show wear and tear over the surface, there would be rubble or sand or something. His report was presented at a conference of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, and will be published later this year in the institute's proceedings. No signs of liquid water have been observed directly from cameras on the surface before. Reports last year pointed to the existence of gullies on crater walls where water appears to have flowed in the last few years, as shown in images taken from orbit, but those are short-lived flows, which are thought to have frozen over almost immediately. Speedy evaporation? Levin and other reasearchers, including JPL's Michael Hecht, have published calculations showing the possibility of micro-environments where water could linger, but the idea remains controversial. The temperatures get plenty warm enough, but the Mars atmosphere is essentially a vacuum, says Phil Christensen of Arizona State University, developer of the Mars rovers' mini-Thermal Emission Spectrometers. That means any water or ice exposed on the surface evaporates or sublimes away almost instantly, he says. But, he adds, it is theoretically possible to get liquid water within soil, or under other very special conditions. The question is just how special those conditions need to be, and whether they ever really are found on Mars today. If there were absolutely no wind, says Christensen, you might build up a stagnant layer of vapour above a liquid surface, preventing it from evaporating too fast. The problem is, there are winds on Mars In the real world, I think it's virtually impossible, he told New Scientist. Simple test Levin disagrees. He says his analysis shows that there can be wind-free environments at certain times of day in certain protected locations. He thinks that could apply to these small depressions inside the sheltered bowl of Endurance crater, at midday in the Martian summer. He adds that highly briny water, as is probably found on Mars, could be stable even at much lower temperatures. Although the rover is now miles away from this site, Levin proposes a simple test that would prove the presence of liquid if similar features are found: use the rover's drill on the surface of the flat area. If it is ice, or any solid material, the drill will leave unmistakable markings, but if it is liquid there should be no trace of the drill's activity. Levins father Gilbert was principal investigator of an experiment on the Viking Mars lander, which found evidence for life on the planet, although negative results from a separate test for organic materials led most scientists to doubt the evidence for biology. Journal reference: R. L. Levin and Daniel Lyddy, Investigation of possible liquid water ponds on the Martian surface (2007 IEEE Aerospace Applications Conference Proceedings, paper #1376, to be published in IEEE Xplore) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Arrow head found in box of Moroccan Meteoritefragments.
This post simply underlines a theory I had presented to me 10 years ago, that global warming is just a phase. If as little as 13000 years ago, the sahara was watered grassland, and the sahara grew before industry, how likely that we are the influence of climate change? I do not work for Shell, BP, Xxon, etc. I Just think that humans have an over-inflated opinion of their significance. Even so, I will confess to actively reducing my carbon footprint over the last 2 years. Sorry, I know it's not met related. Rob McC --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Tom, List Dean Bessey used to (may yet) sell neolithic arrowheads from NWA. Most are probably 9000 to 13,000 years old, from the time that the Sahara was a well-watered grassland with scattered forest stands and lots of big game, well illustrated in the rock drawings the neolithic peoples left behind: http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2hl=ensafe=offq=+site:images.jupiterimages.com+petroglyphs+sahara You just got a freebie. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Arrow head found in box of Moroccan Meteoritefragments. Hi List, You all will think I am nuts. I was going through a box of small meteorite fragments sorting out interesting pieces and attractive individuals. It was out of 20 Kg. small stuff, all unsorted and very dirty and I found an arrow head. Nice shape. About 1 inch total length. Are there any arrow heads found in the region where meteorites would be shipped from Morocco? Thanks, Tom ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Arrow head found in box of Moroccan Meteoritefragments.
does anybody have pix of this point? i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Arrow head found in box of Moroccan Meteoritefragments.Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:35:18 -0700 (PDT)Yeah there are lots of arrowheads and various types ofstone artifacts that is found all over the saharadesert. The stuff is relatively common as the area hasbeen inhabited by people for hundreds of thousands ofyears and until relitively recently man spent a goodchunk of their time making stone tools (Getting foodtook up a lot more time 100,000 years ago than it doestoday).Most are flint looking and are neolithic or justslightly older. If it is stone looking and reallycrude it could be much older. You will find arrowheadsupwards of 100,000 years old and hand axes as much asover half a million.What you have is probably genuine. If you send me aphoto I can give you an estimate of its age.SincerelyDEAN--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, You all will think I am nuts. I was going through a box of small meteorite fragments sorting out interesting pieces and attractive individuals. It was out of 20 Kg. small stuff, all unsorted and very dirty and I found an arrow head. Nice shape. About 1 inch total length. Are there any arrow heads found in the region where meteorites would be shipped from Morocco? Thanks, Tom ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Papers on Desert and Other Meteorites AvailableOnline Until June 18th
Hi, Paul, List, Thanks again to Paul for pointing this out. ALL of Vol. 256 is worth having; at least I thought so. It contains some very interesting pieces about Tektites. Also, take a look at 1998's Vol. 140 (edited by Monica Grady) entitled Meteorites: Flux with Time and Impact Effects, also worth having all of. http://sp.lyellcollection.org/content/vol140/issue1/ Apparently, The Geological Society, London is putting themselves on line, all of their history of publication, all their books, etc. It will cost you to use it, but they are testing (or advertising) the site as they build it, by allowing free access up through June 18. Yes, there IS a free lunch, at least for a while. I've been making a pig out myself at the free food tables: four books, over a gigbyte, but had one bandwidth enough and time, there seems to be a library of many more gigabytes. For example, if you interested in fossils (and I know there are fossil-people on the List), Vol. 217 is Evolution and Palaeobiology of Pterosaurs. Vol. 199 is on The Early Earth. I would feel bad about urging the looting of of a temporarily free resource, but the day that any real damage is done by the frantic stampede to acquire knowledge is probably a day none of us will ever live to see. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 8:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Papers on Desert and Other Meteorites AvailableOnline Until June 18th Dear Friends, The PDF version of an article about desert meteorites is available online until June 18, 2007. It is: Desert meteorites: a history by A. W. R. Bevan Geological Society, London, Special Publications; 2006; v. 256; p. 325-343; http://sp.lyellcollection.org/cgi/content/abstract/256/1/325 This part of The History of Meteoritics and Key Meteorite Collections: Fireballs, Falls and Finds edited by G. J. H. McCall and A. J. Bowden. Other PDF files in this book can be found at: http://sp.lyellcollection.org/content/vol256/issue1/ The PDF versions of the above and other papers in this volume will be free to download until June 18, 2007. This applies to the other papers in the Lyell collection at: http://www.lyellcollection.org/ Best Regards, Paul H. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] millen, ga for trade
i have a 10 g millen, ga slice w/ external surface for trade for other ga skyrock, tektite, or FL skyrock. OR...if you have anything else ultra-tasty i might like, please respond. this meteorite is UNOBTAINABLE ANYWHERE so it is high trade value. off-list-only replies appreciated. i am trying to perpetuate a small collection of rarer skyrox. all response off-list appreciated. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions in less than 1 day
Hi everyone! I have 30 ebay auctions ending in about 18 hrs. Those auctions include: - Shelburne, Canada - Barwell, England - Bishopville, SC, USA - Cleveland, TN, USA - Dalton, GA, USA - Dar al Gani 400 moon rock, Libya - Hoba, Namibia - Weston, CT, USA - Khor Temiki, Sudan - La Primitiva, Chile - Obernkirchen, Germany - Sam's Valley, OR, USA - Wonyulgunna, Australia Also five different pallasites are included (Ahumada, Esquel, Fukang, Imilac, Seymchan) All items were started at 1 cent and a lot are still there. Please take a look if you like: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteoriten Thank you for looking and Good Luck in case you are bidding. Regards Moritz Karl Germany __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Queensland post from down under
Hi everyone, I got the following from Bob Walker who is apparently having trouble posting to the list: -- Done a biggish update to the QMIG website http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/qwalkra2/ http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/qwalkra2/ Can you do me a favour and post to the list that there is a update with main mass pictures and thin section pictures of the Birdsville Seven - ie the 7 new finds from Birdsville (Queensland AUSTRALIA) - next update should have piccies of the cut faces of the Birdsville Seven I have also put up a piccie of the cut and etched face of GLENORMISTON Next update should be better pictures of the new seven from the Tenham strewnfield - JCU has kicked off the project to put these thru nomcom and hmmm prob a month before I get thin section piccies of these tho prob more piccies of the stones and cut faces earlier Can u let the list know I'm getting damn close to getting all the Queenslanders - some of the last few I am missing will be swapped/traded in return for lodgement of type specimens WHITULA CREEK is the only one that is eluding me - surely one of the listees must have some and be willing to swapntrade or even just provide some photos The pocket-guide on Queensland meteorites should be out by the end of the year - it will focus on photographs and short articles with a particular focus on thin section pictures - I'd like to think that Whitula Creek would be in the book but if not so be it but a shame nevertheless __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce
Hi Rob, I am usually able to waylay any strong feelings posts might arouse in me. However, when talking about the survival of not only everyone I love, but of the majority of life forms on the planet it becomes a little more difficult for me to keep my feelings in check. However, I will try. I strongly suggest that if you have ANY belief in the scientific process at all that you examine the following: 1) The history and current movement WORLD WIDE by the vast majority of scientists as expressed in the United Nations After years of denial of scientific evidence, finally a treaty was negotiated in Kyoto, Japan in December 1997. Of the 173 recognized countries on the planet, only 3 were and continue to be hold outs - of course, under King George, the US is one of them. (Clinton was guilty in spite of the urging of his vice president, as he always, always, always pursued the action that was politically most favorable) From this you can see that 98.3% of the various countries have chosen to head the warnings of their scientists on this matter. 2) Do at least a LITTLE research on the scientific reports that were requested by and sent to the current administration - and then ALTERED by said administration the number of former advisors who have resigned as a result of the bull headed refusal of the administration to accept the truth, even when research was conducted by their own scientific advisors. 3) See Burk's Before the Warming (Made in the early 1990s, it is scary how exactly, as scientifically predicted, the results of global warmiing have progressed thus far. 4) See An Inconvenient Truth. I am confident that you are intelligent and sane enough that, once having reflected upon the above, any reluctance to see the evidence in this matter will be gone. If, after reviewing the above, anyone remains unconvinced, I suggest they buy an ostrich ranch as that way they will be among those who are equally like minded and scientifically aware. Sincerely, Michael Blood on 6/9/07 2:41 PM, Rob McCafferty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This post simply underlines a theory I had presented to me 10 years ago, that global warming is just a phase. If as little as 13000 years ago, the sahara was watered grassland, and the sahara grew before industry, how likely that we are the influence of climate change? I do not work for Shell, BP, Xxon, etc. I Just think that humans have an over-inflated opinion of their significance. Even so, I will confess to actively reducing my carbon footprint over the last 2 years. Sorry, I know it's not met related. Rob McC --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Tom, List Dean Bessey used to (may yet) sell neolithic arrowheads from NWA. Most are probably 9000 to 13,000 years old, from the time that the Sahara was a well-watered grassland with scattered forest stands and lots of big game, well illustrated in the rock drawings the neolithic peoples left behind: http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2hl=ensafe=offq=+site:images.jupiterima ges.com+petroglyphs+sahara You just got a freebie. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Arrow head found in box of Moroccan Meteoritefragments. Hi List, You all will think I am nuts. I was going through a box of small meteorite fragments sorting out interesting pieces and attractive individuals. It was out of 20 Kg. small stuff, all unsorted and very dirty and I found an arrow head. Nice shape. About 1 inch total length. Are there any arrow heads found in the region where meteorites would be shipped from Morocco? Thanks, Tom ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ __ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- If You Want a Nation Ruled By Religion, Move to Iran -- Success is not counted by how high you have climbed but by how many people you brought with you. Anonymous -- I have given two cousins to war and I stand ready to sacrifice my wife's brother.
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 10, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce
global warming MAY... be real, but it's just not man-made like all the left-wing liberals want you to believe! i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farceDate: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:12:26 -0700Hi Rob, I am usually able to waylay any strong feelings postsmight arouse in me. However, when talking about the survivalof not only everyone I love, but of the majority of life forms onthe planet it becomes a little more difficult for me to keep myfeelings in check. However, I will try. I strongly suggest that if you have ANY belief in thescientific process at all that you examine the following:1) The history and current movement WORLD WIDE bythe vast majority of scientists as expressed in the UnitedNations After years of denial of scientific evidence, finallya treaty was negotiated in Kyoto, Japan in December 1997.Of the 173 recognized countries on the planet, only 3 wereand continue to be "hold outs" - of course, under King George,the US is one of them.(Clinton was guilty in spite of the urging of his vicepresident, as he always, always, always pursued the actionthat was politically most "favorable") From this you can see that 98.3% of the various countrieshave chosen to head the warnings of their scientists on this matter.2) Do at least a LITTLE research on the scientific reports thatwere requested by and sent to the current administration - andthen ALTERED by said administration the number of formeradvisors who have resigned as a result of the bull headed refusalof the administration to accept the truth, even when researchwas conducted by their own scientific advisors.3) See Burk's "Before the Warming" (Made in the early 1990s,it is scary how exactly, as scientifically predicted, the resultsof global warmiing have progressed thus far.4) See "An Inconvenient Truth." I am confident that you are intelligent and sane enoughthat, once having reflected upon the above, any reluctance tosee the evidence in this matter will be gone. If, after reviewing the above, anyone remains unconvinced,I suggest they buy an ostrich ranch as that way they will beamong those who are equally like minded and scientificallyaware. Sincerely, Michael Bloodon 6/9/07 2:41 PM, Rob McCafferty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This post simply underlines a theory I had presented to me 10 years ago, that global warming is just a phase. If as little as 13000 years ago, the sahara was watered grassland, and the sahara grew before industry, how likely that we are the influence of climate change? I do not work for Shell, BP, Xxon, etc. I Just think that humans have an over-inflated opinion of their significance. Even so, I will confess to actively reducing my carbon footprint over the last 2 years. Sorry, I know it's not met related. Rob McC --- "Sterling K. Webb" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Tom, List Dean Bessey used to (may yet) sell neolithic arrowheads from NWA. Most are probably 9000 to 13,000 years old, from the time that the Sahara was a well-watered grassland with scattered forest stands and lots of big game, well illustrated in the rock drawings the neolithic peoples left behind: http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2hl=ensafe=offq=+site:images.jupiterima ges.com+petroglyphs+sahara You just got a freebie. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Arrow head found in box of Moroccan Meteoritefragments. Hi List, You all will think I am nuts. I was going through a box of small meteorite fragments sorting out interesting pieces and attractive individuals. It was out of 20 Kg. small stuff, all unsorted and very dirty and I found an arrow head. Nice shape. About 1 inch total length. Are there any arrow heads found in the region where meteorites would be shipped from Morocco? Thanks, Tom ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ __ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php __ Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce
Why would you say it is not man-made? Lets see, Phoenix, HUGE city of millions of poeple, 30 miles across, and now during the summer it ofter stays ABOVE 100 degree F as the nightly low! The endless asphalt, millions of cars, etc, make huge brown clouds that cover Tucson, 100 miles away often. The temps there have risen dramatically over the last few years, coinsiding with massive population growth and unrestrained grading of the desert to put up more strip malls. If you think that these actions can do anything but change the weather, you are wrong. Global warming is man-made, and only a true idiot would stand there and deny what he can see in front of him. Only right-wing nutjobs deny the facts and spout crap like Left-wing liberal to make a point. How is that guy Bush doing these days, it seems that he is in the leper colony right now, with an approval rating lower than that of the historical piece of crap criminal Nixon, so I am not sure I would bring up politics on here, just science and facts please. Michael Farmer --- harlan trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - global warming MAY... be real, but it's just not man-made like all the left-wing liberals want you to believe! i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:12:26 -0700 Hi Rob, I am usually able to waylay any strong feelings posts might arouse in me. However, when talking about the survival of not only everyone I love, but of the majority of life forms on the planet it becomes a little more difficult for me to keep my feelings in check. However, I will try. I strongly suggest that if you have ANY belief in the scientific process at all that you examine the following: 1) The history and current movement WORLD WIDE by the vast majority of scientists as expressed in the United Nations After years of denial of scientific evidence, finally a treaty was negotiated in Kyoto, Japan in December 1997. Of the 173 recognized countries on the planet, only 3 were and continue to be hold outs - of course, under King George, the US is one of them. (Clinton was guilty in spite of the urging of his vice president, as he always, always, always pursued the action that was politically most favorable) From this you can see that 98.3% of the various countries have chosen to head the warnings of their scientists on this matter. 2) Do at least a LITTLE research on the scientific reports that were requested by and sent to the current administration - and then ALTERED by said administration the number of former advisors who have resigned as a result of the bull headed refusal of the administration to accept the truth, even when research was conducted by their own scientific advisors. 3) See Burk's Before the Warming (Made in the early 1990s, it is scary how exactly, as scientifically predicted, the results of global warmiing have progressed thus far. 4) See An Inconvenient Truth. I am confident that you are intelligent and sane enough that, once having reflected upon the above, any reluctance to see the evidence in this matter will be gone. If, after reviewing the above, anyone remains unconvinced, I suggest they buy an ostrich ranch as that way they will be among those who are equally like minded and scientifically aware. Sincerely, Michael Blood on 6/9/07 2:41 PM, Rob McCafferty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This post simply underlines a theory I had presented to me 10 years ago, that global warming is just a phase. If as little as 13000 years ago, the sahara was watered grassland, and the sahara grew before industry, how likely that we are the influence of climate change? I do not work for Shell, BP, Xxon, etc. I Just think that humans have an over-inflated opinion of their significance. Even so, I will confess to actively reducing my carbon footprint over the last 2 years. Sorry, I know it's not met related. Rob McC --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Tom, List Dean Bessey used to (may yet) sell neolithic arrowheads from NWA. Most are probably 9000 to 13,000 years old, from the time that the Sahara was a well-watered grassland with scattered forest stands and lots of big game, well illustrated in the rock drawings the neolithic peoples left behind: http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2hl=ensafe=offq=+site:images.jupiterima ges.com+petroglyphs+sahara You just got a freebie. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:35
Re: [meteorite-list] Arrow head found in box of Moroccan Meteoritefragments.
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: This post simply underlines a theory I had presented to me 10 years ago, that global warming is just a phase. If as little as 13000 years ago, the sahara was watered grassland, and the sahara grew before industry, how likely that we are the influence of climate change? It isn't as clear cut as that. First off, I'm not claiming to be an expert on the Sahara desert, I'm just tossing ideas around. But if there was a heating of the Sahara 13k years ago, that'd be local warming (even though it is a fairly big location) and wouldn't necessarily say anything about global temperatures. Plus, desertification could mean not changes in temperature, but changes in rain patterns-- 13k years ago, the Sahara could have been a 100 degree grassland that became a 100 degree desert. Humans could have cut down trees and burned off ground cover, allowing soil to blow away and moisture to no longer be held in the ground. And once a desert starts, it tends to grow, with blown sand covering bordering vegitation, killing it, slowly expanding it. And you could even theorize desert expansion with a COOLING atmosphere-- cooler air holds less moisture and evaporates less from ocean/lake surfaces, so there is the possibility of dryer areas in the world with a cooling trend (and the theoretical possibility of global warming making some areas of the world greener with increased rainfall). So desert formation may or may not say something important about overall warming trends, and it may or may not say something about human causes. Look at the US dust bowl, which, because of human farming practices, was pretty darn close to desertification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_bowl __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 238 Gram Libyan Glass
I won this on ebay and hopped it would be big enough to make a 50mm sphere but unfortunately it wasn't So I figured I would offer it for sale to this list before I tried to re-ebay it. I am asking $100 plus shipping for it which is very close to what I paid. This is a very nice piece of glass, it has great anatomy and it displays well, if I collected whole specimens I would keep this one. Here are 4 pictures of it http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Uruacu/238gr1.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Uruacu/238gr4.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Uruacu/238gr2.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Uruacu/238gr3.jpg If you are interested please contact me off list at bobadebt at ec.rr.com Thanks __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
