Re: [meteorite-list] updated album - latest suspect stones
Hi Michael, > http://s127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/mmurray_02/ Are these micros, or of a larger scale? Gary __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to preserve it as a cube. John At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : "Arizona Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A : Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A few nice pieces for sale
G'day all, I need to pay some bills and also help fund a project I'm working on at the moment so I'm offering a few of my more favourite pieces for sale. I never had any intention to sell these but they're first on "the list"! ;-) The pieces are: *NWA 2892 (H/L3): "The Chondrule Conglomerate" - 5.52g Complete Slice. *Pallasovka (Pallasite) 700g Partslice. (Was actually "Monthly Favourite" a few months ago.) * NWA 2734 - 277.2g (Unclassified Main Mass + Sliced Type Specimen For Study) www.meteorites.com.au/special.html Please email off-list for any questions or queries. Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au Director - I.M.C.A. Inc. www.imca.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Hi Dave, "It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact" I wouldn't second that regarding the iron meteorites. Cutting, preparing, stabilizing iron slices is very cost-intensive. One needs machines, consumables, the cut loss is high and a proper cut, grinding, polishing, etching etc is an extremely time-consuming process. So that I would suppose that most iron preparators would rather prefer to sell larger rough specimens and then at a lower price per gram, than smaller slices. Btw with Cape York I feel it more inappropriate to see two of the masses rotting for decades in the Danish rain in the court of the museum in Copenhagen. http://kuerzer.de/iwascapeyork (Photo M.Graul) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Gheesling Gesendet: Montag, 4. Februar 2008 06:54 An: 'Arizona Keith' Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hi, Keith, I'd figured there was enough banter amongst the group already, but here is a last ditch effort to provoke some thinking. We haven't met yet, but I'm a collector in Atlanta. While I don't necessarily think it was a "horrible end" for this particular meteorite, the point, generally speaking, is a quite good one to consider (not taking and distributing photographs, which I'm sure everyone very much appreciates). It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact). I'm not a tree hugger by any stretch, and in the case of this particular meteorite specimen the principles may not fully apply. But the larger point might be that it is, in fact, truly "stupid" to call someone else stupid for opening up the dialogue. Isn't respectful collaboration and exchange the point of a list such as this, anyway? Best to all, Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Being courteous
Good Morning All, Dave you are so right and so new! ;-) We had many back and forth squabbles on this list and many of us just moaned to see another. But at the end we are all still on it, well some got tired of them I guess, but at the end we are still all here and keep on staying and reading the good information. So I guess at the end we do all appreciate each other and this is wonderful. If you were to go to Tucson you would see how friendly every one is and how every one is welcomed. I think even Matteo from Italy would have a few friends. ;-) Have a nice day, Moni _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Beautiful. I like the presentation a lot! Gary __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cape York / Re: Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Hi, I feel a need to "weigh-in" here. --Keith has (gratefully) embraced the role of the posting of images which enthrall. This is not about Keith---pro or con---it's about whether a Cape York cube should exist. --While i nearly always disagree with Matteo's perspective (and I am about to do so once again), I understand his concern about cubing a meteorite. It would seem that such concerns should be applied on a case by case basis, and I believe should not be applied in the case of Cape York. For starters, there are how many TONS of Cape York represented in how many masses? Moreover, last month I had the pleasure of visiting the Geological Museum at the University of Copenhagen, and there are multiple ingots of material which have been subdivided by scientists at the Museum. I personally believe this is a non issue and a gorgeous representation. And what about those Giants?!;-) On Feb 4, 2008, at 12:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only time I have seen when a meteorite gets destroyed is when they hack up an oriented piece or when they think the meteorite looks cool shaped like an Iguana. That cube looks awesome. Cant wait to see it in person. Thanks for the photo Keith Bob Evans -- Original message -- From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to preserve it as a cube. John At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: Hello List I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing several slices it's a cube. I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. Thanks for your time Keith - Original Message - From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. Matteo - Original Message - Da : "Arizona Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A : Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 Hello List I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, Greenland, Found 1818. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/ Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. Keith Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Obviously true, Christian. And also true in John's note that cubes are better than slices in some cases due to less kerf waste. I'd imagine most (if not everyone) who have commented on the 3D aesthetic values also love spheres for similar reasons. No need to expand on that... Thanks for all of the insight, and to you, Keith, for getting all of this rolling with your terrific pictures! I started this little banter because of a personal attack (one is not "stupid" for having a subjective opinion), as this is not the place for them. "Stupid is as stupid does." - Forrest Gump See you in Tucson... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Anger Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:52 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Isn't each rectangular slice also a geometric figure ? e.g. a square ? So this is a cube. It displays wonderful the 3-dimensional arrangement of the crystals, as this cube is cut 45° to the axis of the crystals. Wonderful 3D-Display! Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JKGwilliam > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:23 PM > To: Arizona Keith; M come Meteorite Meteorites; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day > > I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows > better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The > real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube > could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to > preserve it as a cube. > > John > > At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: > >Hello List > > > >I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. > >You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of > >the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. > >No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal > >saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing > >several slices it's a cube. > >I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. > >Thanks for your time > >Keith > > > > > >- Original Message - From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day > > > > > >>ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. > >> > >>Matteo > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>Da : "Arizona Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>A : > >>Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the > >>Day > >>Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 > >> > >>>Hello List > >>> > >>>I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day > >>> > >>>Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, > >>>Greenland, Found 1818. > >>> > >>http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg > >>> > >>>On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. > >>> > >>>Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. > >>> > >>>Keith > >>>Chandler AZ > >>> > >>> > >>>__ > >>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>>Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>__ > >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>Meteorite-list mailing list > >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > >__ > >http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Your points are right on the money, Martin. I very much agree, and it surprising to see that there is little-to-no market appreciation in terms of perceived economic value for this work with irons, particularly slices. I'll assume that perhaps you would second my point below re: stones, and we can leave it at that (in fact, a little marketing machine is being ramped up as we type for a beautiful stone which no doubt will be rolled out to slaughter in short order, and it will be pathetic to watch). The only part of my original note that started volleying back and forth was the point about cutting meteorites and waste. My point had more to do with the larger picture outlined in the list Policies: be courteous and professional, no personal attacks, identify ADs properly and limit them to once per week so as to avoid spamming the group, etc. All good points. All frequently ignored. Best regards, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:47 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hi Dave, "It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact" I wouldn't second that regarding the iron meteorites. Cutting, preparing, stabilizing iron slices is very cost-intensive. One needs machines, consumables, the cut loss is high and a proper cut, grinding, polishing, etching etc is an extremely time-consuming process. So that I would suppose that most iron preparators would rather prefer to sell larger rough specimens and then at a lower price per gram, than smaller slices. Btw with Cape York I feel it more inappropriate to see two of the masses rotting for decades in the Danish rain in the court of the museum in Copenhagen. http://kuerzer.de/iwascapeyork (Photo M.Graul) Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Gheesling Gesendet: Montag, 4. Februar 2008 06:54 An: 'Arizona Keith' Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Hi, Keith, I'd figured there was enough banter amongst the group already, but here is a last ditch effort to provoke some thinking. We haven't met yet, but I'm a collector in Atlanta. While I don't necessarily think it was a "horrible end" for this particular meteorite, the point, generally speaking, is a quite good one to consider (not taking and distributing photographs, which I'm sure everyone very much appreciates). It is unfortunate that this business has a built-in financial incentive to cut meteorites into very small pieces for distribution (because there is a larger market for smaller pieces at a higher per-gram price many meteorites are essentially destroyed...this is a plain fact). I'm not a tree hugger by any stretch, and in the case of this particular meteorite specimen the principles may not fully apply. But the larger point might be that it is, in fact, truly "stupid" to call someone else stupid for opening up the dialogue. Isn't respectful collaboration and exchange the point of a list such as this, anyway? Best to all, Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cape York in Copenhagen
Here is a page with a pic of the Agpalilik mass displayed outdoors; http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_CAPEYORK.HTM Gary __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 4, 2008
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[meteorite-list] tidbits and tucson
Steve; Good to hear from you.I sincerely hope you have a great time in tucson.You deserve it.I think. Best Regards and have a good time;Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 p.s. The meteorites are waiting,go get em'. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
The only time I have seen when a meteorite gets destroyed is when they hack up an oriented piece or when they think the meteorite looks cool shaped like an Iguana. That cube looks awesome. Cant wait to see it in person. Thanks for the photo Keith Bob Evans -- Original message -- From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows > better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The > real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube > could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to > preserve it as a cube. > > John > > At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: > >Hello List > > > >I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. > >You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of > >the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. > >No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal > >saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing > >several slices it's a cube. > >I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. > >Thanks for your time > >Keith > > > > > >- Original Message - From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day > > > > > >>ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. > >> > >>Matteo > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>Da : "Arizona Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>A : > >>Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the > >>Day > >>Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 > >> > >>>Hello List > >>> > >>>I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day > >>> > >>>Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, > >>>Greenland, Found 1818. > >>> > >>http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg > >>> > >>>On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. > >>> > >>>Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. > >>> > >>>Keith > >>>Chandler AZ > >>> > >>> > >>>__ > >>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>>Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>__ > >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>Meteorite-list mailing list > >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > >__ > >http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Isn't each rectangular slice also a geometric figure ? e.g. a square ? So this is a cube. It displays wonderful the 3-dimensional arrangement of the crystals, as this cube is cut 45° to the axis of the crystals. Wonderful 3D-Display! Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JKGwilliam > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:23 PM > To: Arizona Keith; M come Meteorite Meteorites; > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day > > I agree with Keith. This cube is a wonderful specimen that shows > better than ordinary (not that meteorites are ordinary) slices. The > real shame in meteorite specimen processing over cutting. This cube > could have been cut into several slices but some one decided to > preserve it as a cube. > > John > > At 09:58 PM 2/3/2008, Arizona Keith wrote: > >Hello List > > > >I can't understand why you think this is a horrible end for a meteorite. > >You can see the 3 dimensional Widmanstatten perfect and the shape of > >the troilite inclusions, better than in any 2D slice. > >No materiel was wasted in getting the cube shape, other than normal > >saw and grind waste, It was a large long brick, after removing > >several slices it's a cube. > >I think the Karl's did a great job. I'll post more later this week. > >Thanks for your time > >Keith > > > > > >- Original Message - From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:39 PM > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day > > > > > >>ARGH what horrible end for a meteorite.. > >> > >>Matteo > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>Da : "Arizona Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>A : > >>Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the > >>Day > >>Data : Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:24:25 -0700 > >> > >>>Hello List > >>> > >>>I like to post a Tucson Show Meteorite photo of the Day > >>> > >>>Joachim and Moritz Karl 5.3 kg Cape York Cube, IIIAB om, > >>>Greenland, Found 1818. > >>> > >>http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc199thecube.jpg > >>> > >>>On display in Mike Farmer room, at the Inns suites. > >>> > >>>Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did seeing it. > >>> > >>>Keith > >>>Chandler AZ > >>> > >>> > >>>__ > >>>http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>>Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>__ > >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>Meteorite-list mailing list > >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > >__ > >http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] tidbits and tucson
Hello all.It has been awhile,but I have been very busy.I have had no time to post.But with only 2 days till I leave for Tucson,I just wanted to update a few things.I will be arriving the 6Th,not the 7Th like I had said in the Tucson update sheet that Paul Harris has generously has made possible.Thanks so much.!Also I want to thank Keith for keeping us who are going to Tucson,updated as what to expect and keep us drooling till we get there.Also 1 little comment on that CAPE YORK cube.What a beautiful piece.Outstanding!Also I will have a few pieces with me to do business with.So I look forward to seeing all my old friends,and looking forward to meeting new ones.After 12 inches of snow here over the last 4 days,I look forward to 5 days off.See you all soon. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
As some of you may you I only collect Meteorite Spheres. Most people seem to appreciate my collection but I've run across a few people that have demonstrated utter disdain about how I choose to collect. Personally I think that it's up to each individual to collect in a way that works for them. I have no problem with someone not liking my collection but there's a point when subjective criticism become rude and obnoxious behavior. IMO, Matteo's comments about this cube tend to be more toward the rude end of the spectrum. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] M.C.'s Babb's Mill (Blake's Iron) on EBay
Hello All, Here is another American classic I couldn't resist yesterday. Well, I had been watching it for several days already and I had tried to ignore it after I had recently bought a 0.95-gram partly crusted SNC individual from Marcin and that terrific SNC slice I got on Ebay from Jim Strope. See here if you haven't seen it yet: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_19_2008.html In vain did I try to ignore Babb's Mill, which is also known as Blake's Iron and not to be confounded with Babb's Mill (Troost's Iron). I had read so often about these two ataxites, I had seen a picture of the cigar-shaped main mass of Blake's Iron in one of my very first books on meteorites (Heide's Kleine Meteoritenkunde, 1957, p. 80) that I did not want to miss out on an iron I have never before seen offered (if I remember correctly) since I started collecting meteorites about 25 years ago. Babb's Mill (Blake's Iron) has a nickel content of 11.8% Ni whereas Troost's is richer in nickel (17.5%). As the meter-long cigar-shaped mass of Blake's Iron had been dug up not far from Troost's Iron and as they are both of them ataxites, Brezina assumed they were one and the same iron. Maybe Christian or Alex can post a picture of this "cigar" which now resides in the Vienna collection (weight: 128.7 kg). The German meteoriticist E. Cohen [hence the name "cohenite" for the carbide (Fe, Ni)3C] and his coworkers were the first to notice there was a noticeable difference between both irons in nickel content. Berwerth (1918) even concluded that Blake's Iron was an artificial product and thus not meteoritic. But Vagn Buchwald restored its good reputation and showed that Blake's Iron was definitely of cosmic origin (and completely different from Troost's Iron). According to Buchwald, "etched sections display an homogeneous ataxitic structure without visible inclusions of troilite, schreibersite, graphite or silicates" and "high magnification reveals a polycrystalline mosaic of kamacite and taenite grains." But, why don't you look for yourselves if interested. There are still 3 specimens that Michael Cottingham is offering on EBay. My 0.45-gram slice should now be on its way across the Big Pond. Reference: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 2, pp. 284-285. Ataxitically yours, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
I have stoped for many time to answer or write in the list, or put many few emails...after have read this last comment probably is good I re-stop for other many time to write in this listyaw matteo - Original Message - Da : "David & Kitt Deyarmin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A : Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day Data : Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:40:26 -0500 > As some of you may you I only collect Meteorite Spheres. > > Most people seem to appreciate my collection but I've run > across a few people that have demonstrated utter disdain > about how I choose to collect. > > Personally I think that it's up to each individual to > collect in a way that works for them. > > I have no problem with someone not liking my collection > but there's a point when subjective criticism become rude > and obnoxious behavior. > > IMO, Matteo's comments about this cube tend to be more > toward the rude end of the spectrum. > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: OUM DREYGA (Amgala) - 2 slices 1end-piece
Hi all!!! This afternoon I have cutted a little OUM DREYGA (Amgala) that I bought a couple of years ago at the Munich Mineral Show. I have here for sale 2 little and thin slices and one end-piece. All the specimen are completely surrounded by a very fresh fusion crust. One side of the slices and the cutted surface of the end-piece are mirror polished with diamond powder!!! Here you can find measures, weights and prices: http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Secondarie/OnSale/Chondrite/Amgala.htm Shipping cost included!!! Ciao <><><><> Francesco Moser http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/ IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] bernd's babbs mill
Hi again list.I must say,that is one good looking little iron.I like the etch on the babbs mill.Well I took his advice and bought 1 of the 3 mike had left to add to my collection.Also mike cottingham has put out some pretty amazing stuff the last few weeks.I was looking thru his ebay store when I noticed he had just put up a 3.4 gram slice of JARALITO,mexico.GONE!I love buy it now.You just have to quick on these rarities. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Being courteous
In response to Moni's posting
I post here when I want to ask a question.
I've always found the responses well measured and
reasoned. The ONLY exception was my fault and vowed
not to do it again.
Today I pontificate.
I find people as I recieve them and this list has
given friendships, despite never having met the
persons I converse with.
Despite the barriers of nationality, culture and
language, a little courtesy makes it all possible..
Some, it seems, don't care for courtesy. What
difference does it make?...well, let me tell you.
As a predominantly US list, some enthusiasts in the UK
call the the BSL ("Big Scary List").
So far, I can answer any lay question I'm asked but
many UK list enthusiasts are more knowledgable* than I
.
Scaring these people off deprives us of rich variety
and free interpretation.
Exchange of ideas drives knowledge. To be privvy to
the ideas even if we do not make the links is a
priveledge. Let us not admonish the free minded by
creating an atmosphere of contrition.
This great list can be more so.
Rob McC
* talented, educated, informed, capable, attractive,
eligableI am far more irritating in real life. Ask any
of the Brits.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vW5eUA0I938
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
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[meteorite-list] Moving pictures from the Tucson Gem Show.
Hi all, Here are three hours at the Tucson Gem and Mineral show condensed into three minutes. Nothing special, just walking and talking with some meteorite dealers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIMORPKndVk If you like this sort of thing let me know -maybe I'll do more. Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Meteorite Spheres
Hello. If anyone happens to run across any meteorite spheres would you mind letting the seller know that I might be interested in them. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] or they can call me at 252 444 6728 Pictures posted to the list would be great too ;) Thanks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Listoids, With very few comments here on the list I also feel the need to respond to this "cube" story. It doesn't matter how many slices are added for sale of Cape York, collectors always love them and pay plenty bucks for them. Now we start nagging about a cube..? If this sucker would also be sliced up we probably again will oooeehh and aaahh about the beauty of them. Now for those folksjust look at it as a very thick sliceHappy again? Look, I'm frustrated also for not making it to Tucson this year but at least I still have a life(can't believe I really said that) Have a good on you all. Especially for all the jerks who made it to Tucson, rrrgggrrr.. Best, Jan Bartels www.heavenlybodies.nl Holland __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moving pictures from the Tucson Gem Show.
This is pretty good Ruben, and I loved the music! When you do more a little bid more focus might be good, because you know I have to wear glasses now! Old age eyes! ;-) Thanks for the afternoon entertainment, really enjoyed it, Moni _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moving pictures from the Tucson Gem Show.
Of course we want more Ruben! John Gwilliam At 05:10 PM 2/4/2008, Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi all, Here are three hours at the Tucson Gem and Mineral show condensed into three minutes. Nothing special, just walking and talking with some meteorite dealers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIMORPKndVk If you like this sort of thing let me know -maybe I'll do more. Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moving pictures from the Tucson Gem Show.
Cool Ruben or in the hip vernacular "sick"!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Ruben Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Moving pictures from the Tucson Gem Show. Hi all, Here are three hours at the Tucson Gem and Mineral show condensed into three minutes. Nothing special, just walking and talking with some meteorite dealers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIMORPKndVk If you like this sort of thing let me know -maybe I'll do more. Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Keith's Tucson Meteorite of the Day
Just consider the source David. Most of us like your sphere collection. Don --- David & Kitt Deyarmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As some of you may you I only collect Meteorite > Spheres. > > Most people seem to appreciate my collection but > I've run across a few > people that have demonstrated utter disdain about > how I choose to collect. > > Personally I think that it's up to each individual > to collect in a way that > works for them. > > I have no problem with someone not liking my > collection but there's a point > when subjective criticism become rude and obnoxious > behavior. > > IMO, Matteo's comments about this cube tend to be > more toward the rude end > of the spectrum. > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Don Rawlings Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] LET'S MAKE METEORITE/TEKTITE COLLECTING FUN AGAIN!
Hi list members, In light of recent posts, I thought it would be nice to make things fun again! Below are links to funny or weirdly shaped Tektites or Meteorites. http://tektiteinc.com/Shrek%20Rizalite%20Davao%2005.jpg http://tektiteinc.com/Shrek%20Rizalite%20Davao%2004.jpg http://tektiteinc.com/Tektiteman%20Rizalite.jpg Please feel free to submit more pictures of funnily shaped specimens. Thanks all! BTW, thanks to Keith for the wonderful Tucson pictures and also to Ruben for the recent Tucson video. Keep em coming guys! Cheers, Desmond Leong IMCA #2254 http://www.TektiteInc.com http://stores.ebay.com/Tektite-Inc http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtektiteinc-dot-com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re; Inexpensive Irons
Thanks E.P. I'll see if they can help me out. Regards, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E.P. Grondine Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 9:33 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Re; Inexpensive Irons Hi - The Barringer crater visitor center had some nice little bagged pieces - $2-$3? a bag, with slip. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re; Inexpensive Irons
Hola Bob, E.P., All, Hardly - the stuff they sell at the Meteor Crater store is shale. They don't sell real meteorites on-site, though you can find freshly dug-up irons on ebay from hunters for an average going price of ~$0.30/g. You'd probably be best-off buying some Odessa nuggets or a lot of those "Campo crystals" from Hans or another dealer who might have them for cheaps; those, at least, would be real meteoric iron, and not just oxide. Or what about Sikhote shrapnel? That tends to be fairly cheap... Best of Luck, Jason On Feb 4, 2008 10:36 PM, Bob Loeffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks E.P. I'll see if they can help me out. > > Regards, > > Bob > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E.P. > Grondine > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 9:33 AM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re; Inexpensive Irons > > Hi - > > The Barringer crater visitor center had some nice > little bagged pieces - $2-$3? a bag, with slip. > > E.P. Grondine > Man and Impact in the Americas > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
