[meteorite-list] A million $ rock on eBay

2008-07-20 Thread Metorman46
Hello Mike and list;

I personally believe  that we are a "captive audience"when a new fall is 
explored by someone and the  adventures are posted on this great meteorite 
list.Michael says that upon  viewing the posts he just enjoys them and feels 
that 
commentary isn't  necessary,i agree 100%,and also enjoy the reports.If we 
comment 
and it is taken  the wrong way due to the excitement of the moment then the 
list will explode  into a feeding frenzy against the person making the 
comment.I think,so best to  read and enjoy and hope for a specimen at some time 
in the 
future.I  think.

I for one appreciate your efforts in meteoritics very much,and  wish you good 
fortune and exciting adventures.Thanks to you and other  adventurers we enjoy 
specimens for study and pleasure.THANK YOU VERY  MUCH.

Best Regards;Herman Archer  IMCA # 2770  




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[meteorite-list] Tomorrow in History + AMNH NYC

2008-07-20 Thread Metorman46
Hello Geoff;

Sounds like you have  had and are having a hot and exciting summer.Enjoyed 
your post very much.Brings  back the old days of the beginning of manned space 
exploration.What a  time.

Good to hear from you on the list and look forward to more  exciting 
posts,and informative too.Thanks.

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Re: [meteorite-list] A million $ rock on eBay

2008-07-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Herman and all, this is not about me, just a comment on the fact that when 
anyone announces something new, for example, Sonny announced a new R chondrite 
from the USA, the first ever and something quite special that he found. I 
watched and there was only silence. I am not saying that everyone on the list 
needs to comment, that would be nuts, but when these ebay scams are put up, it 
seems so many people jump on every time. 
I am just curious why, and some of you have answered your own personal reasons. 
Enough said.
Michael Farmer


--- On Sun, 7/20/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] A million $ rock on eBay
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 8:54 AM
> Hello Mike and list;
> 
> I personally believe  that we are a "captive
> audience"when a new fall is 
> explored by someone and the  adventures are posted on this
> great meteorite 
> list.Michael says that upon  viewing the posts he just
> enjoys them and feels that 
> commentary isn't  necessary,i agree 100%,and also enjoy
> the reports.If we comment 
> and it is taken  the wrong way due to the excitement of the
> moment then the 
> list will explode  into a feeding frenzy against the person
> making the 
> comment.I think,so best to  read and enjoy and hope for a
> specimen at some time in the 
> future.I  think.
> 
> I for one appreciate your efforts in meteoritics very
> much,and  wish you good 
> fortune and exciting adventures.Thanks to you and other 
> adventurers we enjoy 
> specimens for study and pleasure.THANK YOU VERY  MUCH.
> 
> Best Regards;Herman Archer  IMCA # 2770  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] best way to glue meteorite together

2008-07-20 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Greg,
It depends on the specimen - are you talking about a
Whole stone, a thick (5mm to 8mm) slice or partslice, a
Thin part or whold slice (2 to 3mm), etc. Whatever it is
You can be sure Bill Mason has invented a glue for it.
(he developed "paleobond," meteorite cutting fluid you
Mix with distilled water and a number of other meteorite
Products - not to mention hundreds of other commercial
Patens for product development.
You can contact him at:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Best wishes, Michael


on 7/19/08 5:34 PM, greg stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> All:
> 
> What is the best way to attach or (glue) pieces of a. Meteorite together
> without causing damage? I want to be able to attach broken pieces together.
> 
> Any thoughts... Perhaps putty or some type of temp. glue.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg S
> 
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[meteorite-list] Toluca Meteorite with quartz

2008-07-20 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,
Take a look at this ebay auction. None of the pictures looks like any Toluca 
meteorite that I've ever seen, and some of the pictures show what looks like 
quartz!  

http://cgi.ebay.com/IRON-METEORITE-TOLUCA-3330-GRAMS-JIQUIPILCO-MEXICO_W0QQitemZ180265923155QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: [meteorite-list] best way to glue meteorite together

2008-07-20 Thread Nicholas Gessler
Oops, I sent this directly to Greg, but intended to send it to the 
list as well...


Hi Greg,

Bond 527 (available at Michael's) is a good reversible glue.
You can dissolve it with acetone.  But be aware, acetone is not friendly.

In the museum conservation field, reversibility is what you're after.
You can glue it together, and then take it apart if you need to.

As for how to do it, as an archaeologist some time back, and having glued
many pieces of Primm together, I would suggest a "sand box."  Sand will
allow you to balance the pieces so that they dry without falling out 
of position.


And as to where to start, try fitting several pieces together by 
hand.  Figure out
which ones need to be glued together first so that you don't end up 
with a piece

that won't go in.

Have fun,
Nick

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[meteorite-list] Drilling meteorites to make jewelry

2008-07-20 Thread dean bessey
Does anybody know of a good type of drill to drill small holes through 
chondrites?
Thanks
DEAN


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Toluca Meteorite with quartz

2008-07-20 Thread Ted Bunch
Not Toluca.


On 7/20/08 2:56 PM, "Ruben Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Take a look at this ebay auction. None of the pictures looks like any Toluca
> meteorite that I've ever seen, and some of the pictures show what looks like
> quartz!  
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/IRON-METEORITE-TOLUCA-3330-GRAMS-JIQUIPILCO-MEXICO_W0QQite
> mZ180265923155QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> Ruben Garcia
> Phoenix, Arizona
> http://www.mr-meteorite.com
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Drilling meteorites to make jewelry

2008-07-20 Thread m42protosun


Hi Dean,
I have good success with diamont drill tips used by dentists.
Uwe

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Does anybody know of a good type of drill to drill small holes through
chondrites?
Thanks
DEAN



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Re: [meteorite-list] Drilling meteorites to make jewelry

2008-07-20 Thread Nicholas Gessler

Hi Dean,

Diamond bits.
They come in all sizes, use with lots of water...
I might have some around, but you can get them at most gem and jewelery shows
and certainly at Tucson.  I may have some around.  Try looking at the 
websites for

Dremel and Fordham tools...

What I'd like to find are some diamond hole drills.
I have some that are up to about 1/2 inch diameter, but they have a 
rather large kerf.
I'd like to core some good looking meteorites to get the 20grams for 
the labs and
not damage the appearance of my meteorites.  Bore the hole.  Break 
out the core.
Fill the hole with some filler and paint it.  Minimal change to the 
appearance of the

meteorite - ample sample extracted.

Cheers,
Nick

At 03:22 PM 7/20/2008, dean bessey wrote:
Does anybody know of a good type of drill to drill small holes 
through chondrites?

Thanks
DEAN


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Re: [meteorite-list] Drilling meteorites to make jewelry

2008-07-20 Thread Pete Pete

Hi, Nick, all,

A tiny diamond coring bit sounds like a custom-made tool, but I like the idea! 
Lots of us have fusion encrusted unclassified individuals too gorgeous to cut 
in to, which drives us insane wondering what lies inside. Fight the temptation!

A small core sample, I'm thinking a few millimetres, to have a microscopic peek 
would be perfect. 

Cheers,
Pete




> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:19:35 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Drilling meteorites to make jewelry
>
> Hi Dean,
>
> Diamond bits.
> They come in all sizes, use with lots of water...
> I might have some around, but you can get them at most gem and jewelery shows
> and certainly at Tucson. I may have some around. Try looking at the
> websites for
> Dremel and Fordham tools...
>
> What I'd like to find are some diamond hole drills.
> I have some that are up to about 1/2 inch diameter, but they have a
> rather large kerf.
> I'd like to core some good looking meteorites to get the 20grams for
> the labs and
> not damage the appearance of my meteorites. Bore the hole. Break
> out the core.
> Fill the hole with some filler and paint it. Minimal change to the
> appearance of the
> meteorite - ample sample extracted.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick
>
> At 03:22 PM 7/20/2008, dean bessey wrote:
>>Does anybody know of a good type of drill to drill small holes
>>through chondrites?
>>Thanks
>>DEAN
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[meteorite-list] Please help save the gigantic crater buried deep under the ocean and solid rock!

2008-07-20 Thread Darren Garrison
If we don't act now, the whole thing could be destroyed with only trillions of
dollars and hundreds of years of concerted effort by the entire global
population!  So act today!

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/07/20/3556594.htm

NASA calls for protection of asteroid impact zone in Mexico

(EFE Ingles Via Acquire Media NewsEdge) Mexico City, Jul 20 (EFE).- NASA is
advocating that the Mexican zone of Chicxulub, where 65 million years ago a
large meteorite impacted, changing the course of evolution on Earth, be declared
a World Heritage Site by UNESCO.

"It's a site unique in the world" where a phenomenon occurred that "changed the
evolution of the Earth," Dr. Isabel Hawkins, an Argentine-U.S. astronomer with
the University of California at Berkeley and contracted with by the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration, or NASA, to work in the zone, told Efe.

A meteorite calculated to have been 15 kilometers (9.3 miles) in diameter
created the Chicxulub crater - a feature 200 kilometers (124 miles) wide - when
it struck the spot just at the point in time separating the Cretaceous and
Tertiary Periods.

The characteristics of the crater are still being investigated by scientists.

Seventeen years ago, NASA began sending missions to the zone to analyze the
stratigraphy and geology there with an eye toward comparing the data with other
verified meteorite impact sites, about 200 of which exist all around the globe.

The special aspect of the Chicxulub impact is that "the dinosaurs that had ruled
the Earth for 250 million years really disappeared" after the blast, Hawkins
said.

It was at that point that another group of vertebrates, the mammals, "who were
smaller and could not compete with the dinosaurs, could gain ground, increase
their strength and gain importance" evolutionarily, she said.

Now, a scientist for NASA, Colombian Adriana Ocampo, is pushing UNESCO to
declare the zone a scientific World Heritage Site to preserve the impact
evidence and bring it to light.

"She wants to support the Mexican government to promote a Unesco initiative,"
she added.

Hawkins says that her colleague "as a first step, obtained the support of the
Yucatan government."

During the past week, NASA experts held open scientific-educational sessions in
the zone to win the confidence of the local residents - about 3,000 of whom live
in the immediate area - and make them aware "of the risk" for the area and the
benefits that could result if better scientific protection is implemented there.

Authorities are also speaking about fostering tourism and building a science
museum to explain the landmark event that happened here millions of years ago.
EFe

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Re: [meteorite-list] Please help save the gigantic crater buried deep under the ocean and solid rock!

2008-07-20 Thread Pete Pete

I might be naive, but why don't they just use the Peruvian method for 
preserving craters: fill it with urine!





> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:06:00 -0400
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Please help save the gigantic crater buried deep 
> under the ocean and solid rock!
>
> If we don't act now, the whole thing could be destroyed with only trillions of
> dollars and hundreds of years of concerted effort by the entire global
> population! So act today!
>
> http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/07/20/3556594.htm
>
> NASA calls for protection of asteroid impact zone in Mexico
>
> (EFE Ingles Via Acquire Media NewsEdge) Mexico City, Jul 20 (EFE).- NASA is
> advocating that the Mexican zone of Chicxulub, where 65 million years ago a
> large meteorite impacted, changing the course of evolution on Earth, be 
> declared
> a World Heritage Site by UNESCO.
>
> "It's a site unique in the world" where a phenomenon occurred that "changed 
> the
> evolution of the Earth," Dr. Isabel Hawkins, an Argentine-U.S. astronomer with
> the University of California at Berkeley and contracted with by the National
> Aeronautics and Space Administration, or NASA, to work in the zone, told Efe.
>
> A meteorite calculated to have been 15 kilometers (9.3 miles) in diameter
> created the Chicxulub crater - a feature 200 kilometers (124 miles) wide - 
> when
> it struck the spot just at the point in time separating the Cretaceous and
> Tertiary Periods.
>
> The characteristics of the crater are still being investigated by scientists.
>
> Seventeen years ago, NASA began sending missions to the zone to analyze the
> stratigraphy and geology there with an eye toward comparing the data with 
> other
> verified meteorite impact sites, about 200 of which exist all around the 
> globe.
>
> The special aspect of the Chicxulub impact is that "the dinosaurs that had 
> ruled
> the Earth for 250 million years really disappeared" after the blast, Hawkins
> said.
>
> It was at that point that another group of vertebrates, the mammals, "who were
> smaller and could not compete with the dinosaurs, could gain ground, increase
> their strength and gain importance" evolutionarily, she said.
>
> Now, a scientist for NASA, Colombian Adriana Ocampo, is pushing UNESCO to
> declare the zone a scientific World Heritage Site to preserve the impact
> evidence and bring it to light.
>
> "She wants to support the Mexican government to promote a Unesco initiative,"
> she added.
>
> Hawkins says that her colleague "as a first step, obtained the support of the
> Yucatan government."
>
> During the past week, NASA experts held open scientific-educational sessions 
> in
> the zone to win the confidence of the local residents - about 3,000 of whom 
> live
> in the immediate area - and make them aware "of the risk" for the area and the
> benefits that could result if better scientific protection is implemented 
> there.
>
> Authorities are also speaking about fostering tourism and building a science
> museum to explain the landmark event that happened here millions of years ago.
> EFe
>
> act/bp
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[meteorite-list] Some of my Meteorites in 3-D

2008-07-20 Thread Jay & Annette
Hi gang, since there has been a lot of talk of the Mars 3-D pictures, I'll 
throw out my 3-D pics of some of the meteorites I found.  I've always wanted 
to do some 3-D pics of the meteorites, so I did it.  I found a neat little 
program to make them and had a fun time doing it.  Here is the link to the 
forum where the pics are posted:


http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=13161

Hope you all enjoy  These are my Gold Basin and Franconia meteorites 
that I have found over the past few years.


Jason Snyder
VAMH (Very Amateur Meteorite Hunter) 



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