[meteorite-list] AD: looking for Whitula Creek
Listoids I'm looking to beg buy borrow trade or maybe donate a kidney to accession a specimen of Whitula Creek This is one of the few very few that I need to finalise a Queensland Meteorites collection and also to publish a pocket guide with a focus on polished thin-sections If you can assist with the above or otherwise help me to track down a specimen please contact me off-list http://www.qmig.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 9, 2009
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[meteorite-list] AD - Zag for $1.50 per Gram
If anyone is interested in all of my remaining Zag stock I will sell it to you at $1.50 per gram According to my web site I have 13 slices left that weigh 298 grams. You can view the slices by clicking this http://home.roadrunner.com/~bobadebt/Subpages/FS%20Zag.htm If interested email me off list at bobadebt @ ec.rr.com Thanks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More on the lights and damage in UK
No Al, England, moving lights, giant explosion, low flying object, tentacles, octopus. That all points definitely to H.G.Wells' "The War of the Worlds" ! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von al mitterling Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 15:46 An: ensorama...@ntlworld.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] More on the lights and damage in UK Greetings, The Martian Chronicles have returned!! Good film. --AL Mitterling __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More on the lights and damage in UK
The book, not the radio broadcast or the movies. Larry On Fri, January 9, 2009 4:58 am, Martin Altmann wrote: > No Al, > > > England, moving lights, giant explosion, low flying object, tentacles, > octopus. > > That all points definitely to H.G.Wells' "The War of the Worlds" ! > > > Martin > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von al > mitterling Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 15:46 > An: ensorama...@ntlworld.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] More on the lights and damage in UK > > > Greetings, > > > The Martian Chronicles have returned!! Good film. > > > --AL Mitterling > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 9, 2009
What a group! When we were at the ROM I had the pleasure of holding each of these planetary masses, except for NWA 5000. It was already in it's display case. Thanks again to Greg Hupe and Ian Nicklin from the ROM who gave us the tour of the new meteorite gallery, it was truly an honor. Best regards, Roman Jirasek - Original Message - From: "Michael Johnson" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:30 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 9,2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_9_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Half-baked asteroids have Earth-like crust
"...these meteorites are ancient asteroid fragments consisting of feldspar-rich rock called andesite. Similar rocks were previously known only from Earth, making these samples the first of their kind from elsewhere in the Solar System. ..The light-colored meteorites, designated GRA 06128 and GRA 06129, were immediately recognized as being different from previously known meteorites." See also: WYATT M.B. et al. (1999) Recognizing andesites on the SNC parent body: Mineralogy from Mars Global Surveyor (MAPS 34-4, 1999, A123). WYATT M.B. et al. (2001) An alternative hypothesis for basalt and andesite on Mars: Global surface compositions from MGS-TES (MAPS 36-9, 2001, A226). WYATT M.B. et al. (2002) Spectral evidence for weathered basalt as an alternative to andesite in the northern lowlands of Mars (Nature, vol. 417, p. 263-266). Best wishes, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More on the lights and damage in UK
Hello Martin, That thought had crossed my mind as well (as a BIG WOTW fan) -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" To: Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] More on the lights and damage in UK No Al, England, moving lights, giant explosion, low flying object, tentacles, octopus. That all points definitely to H.G.Wells' "The War of the Worlds" ! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von al mitterling Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 15:46 An: ensorama...@ntlworld.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] More on the lights and damage in UK Greetings, The Martian Chronicles have returned!! Good film. --AL Mitterling __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1883 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 6:05 PM __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet smashes triggered ancient famine ???
Comet smashes triggered ancient famine January 7, 2009 by Ker Than http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126882.900-comet-smashes-triggered-ancient-famine.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news Abbott, D. H., P. Biscaye, J. Cole-Dai, and D. Breger, 2008, Magnetite and Silicate Spherules from the GISP2 Core at the 536 A.D. Horizon American Geophysical Union, Fall Meeting 2008, abstract #PP41B-1454 http://www.agu.org/cgi-bin/SFgate/SFgate?&listenv=table&multiple=1&range=1&directget=1&application=fm08&database=%2Fdata%2Fepubs%2Fwais%2Findexes%2Ffm08%2Ffm08&maxhits=200&=%22PP41B-1454%22 and http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008AGUFMPP41B1454A Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] PDF Files of Holocene Impact Working Group Publications
PDF files of Holocene Impact Working Group publications can be found at:found at: http://tsun.sscc.ru/hiwg/publ.htm Home page http://tsun.sscc.ru/hiwg/hiwg.htm Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
I have mixed feelings about this story : http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1642444_1870349_1870342,00.html I guess we'll be dodging errant golfballs and hearing cell phones ring while walking around one of the more remote places on the Earth. :( I wonder if any of these wealthy tourists realize they are visiting a famous strewnfield? Regards and clear skies, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
Sad, I was there on top of that rock a few years ago. San Pedro de Atacama is a fantastic town, a little like the wild west, with dirt streets, no water (all water is trucked in) and dodgy looking people. I had more fun there than can be explained. To have Hollywood types jetting down there to stay in a spa just sucks in my opinion. The geysers were amazing, typical that man would destroy them to make more money mining. Oh well. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Michael Gilmer wrote: > From: Michael Gilmer > Subject: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination? > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 8:57 AM > I have mixed feelings about this story : > > http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1642444_1870349_1870342,00.html > > I guess we'll be dodging errant golfballs and hearing > cell phones > ring while walking around one of the more remote places on > the Earth. :( > > I wonder if any of these wealthy tourists realize they are > visiting > a famous strewnfield? > > Regards and clear skies, > > MikeG > > > . > Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) > Member of the Meteoritical Society. > Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. > Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and > http://www.glassthrower.com > MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale > .. > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 8, 2009
The only thing I can say (with apologies) is: DO WANT! Tracy Latimer > >> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_8_2009.html >> >> __ >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
All, I am a bit conflicted with this too. However, to insist that a group of humans stay in a setting from a couple centuries ago, like keeping apes in a fake looking jungle cage at the zoo, just so we can go an see them "undisturbed" is a bit morbid. Like others on the list, I too have visited San Pedro de Atacama on my several trips to Imilac in the past and really loved going there. The old small buildings, narrow streets, broken glass bottles cemented into the tops of walls around yards as security fences, were unforgettable. It was an oasis compared to dry and desolate surroundings. But, also as unforgettable, was all the trash strewn about the highway for thousands of miles up and down the Pan American highway. Somebody forgot to put up the "Keep Chile Clean" signs. Litter was so abundant, especially at railroad crossings. Burned out cars and buses were sitting on the side of the road from car wrecks years if not decades before. What 99% of people saw when traveling on the highway(s) of Chile was the trash, not the beauty. You had to get off the highway before things would clean up. So to me, my hunch is that if there are high class hotels coming in to the San Pedro de Atacama, my bet is that they will at least clean the trash up on and around their own property. They might even pay to have the other trash in public areas cleaned up as well. So in a way, the development might be a good thing. And the situation with the residents there, imprisoned in poverty, is sad. I am sure they, like most anyone else in the civilized world would like to have a good job, be able to afford TV, a nice car, good health care, maybe be able to send their kids off to college to have a CHOICE as to what they want to do with their life. For those of us with enough money to travel there, it is fun, but we get to leave and choose where we go next. To be stuck there for one's whole life, it might get to be a drag after a while. If they can make a buck and improve their life, who are we to say that is bad? If I would ever choose to head that way again, either to find rocks or simply as a tourist , I would probably choose to stay in an overpriced nice place instead of an overpriced small place. Although, the places I stayed at a decade ago were quite modern considering; not mud floor huts that the post cards would indicate. I for one can fully understand why they would want to develop that part of the country for tourists. It is an amazing place and I am sure as word spreads more and more people would want to go there. I for one, have STRONGLY recommended that anyone that has a chance, should go and see San Pedro de Atacama. Not to mention, take a fishing boat out to see the penguins on the way up. Oh, and there is a great steak house in La Serena. And the vineyards, very much worth the tours. And when you are in Antofagasta, don't forget to wear your seatbelts, they will pull you over and ticket you for that infraction alone. And the Pampa area, words can't describe how desolate it looks...and words can't describe how daunting the feeling is, in the pit of your stomach, if your truck gets stuck out there. And don't forget the Pisco and Pepsi, when heading out to your campsite. And, pick up some lumber in the trash piles along the highway to make a campfire out of, or you will be very cold once the sun sets and you are waiting for the Pisco to kick in! Oh, and did someone mention strewnfields? Why wouldn't EVERYONE want to go there? There are meteorites to be found! As far as the copper mines growing and encroaching on people, I am sure there is room to get on either side of that argument. Some would argue that at least they are not killing off wildlife in the process, since wildlife doesn't live out there to start with. If they force humans to scoot over a little, well, that is what humans are good at, moving over. I just hope they do what they do with taste, and it allows more people to enjoy the beautiful setting that is waiting for them in such a desolate corner of the earth. If they decide to trash the place even more, well, it wouldn't really surprise me, it is kind of their tradition down there anyway. Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas In a message dated 1/9/2009 10:05:16 A.M. Central Standard Time, meteorite...@yahoo.com writes: Sad, I was there on top of that rock a few years ago. San Pedro de Atacama is a fantastic town, a little like the wild west, with dirt streets, no water (all water is trucked in) and dodgy looking people. I had more fun there than can be explained. To have Hollywood types jetting down there to stay in a spa just sucks in my opinion. The geysers were amazing, typical that man would destroy them to make more money mining. Oh well. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Michael Gilmer wrote: > From: Michael Gilmer > Subject: [meteori
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -January 8, 2009
Hi Tracy, I agree. Very nice. Nice description, as well. I am also happy to read that a piece has been sent for analysis. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: "tracy latimer" To: Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -January 8, 2009 The only thing I can say (with apologies) is: DO WANT! Tracy Latimer http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_8_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad
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Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
Hi Steve and Mike, I would be one hell of a pretentious upstart to disagree with someone who has actually been there. My travels in the Atacama are limited to armchair fantasies and future pipe dreams. I do hope to visit there one day in the future, but I'd like it to look like ATACAMA when I get there, and not Orlando Florida. Steve, I can't argue with the logic and rationale of what you say here : - "But, also as unforgettable, was all the trash strewn about the highway for thousands of miles up and down the Pan American highway. Somebody forgot to put up the "Keep Chile Clean" signs. Litter was so abundant, especially at railroad crossings. Burned out cars and buses were sitting on the side of the road from car wrecks years if not decades before. What 99% of people saw when traveling on the highway(s) of Chile was the trash, not the beauty. You had to get off the highway before things would clean up. So to me, my hunch is that if there are high class hotels coming in to the San Pedro de Atacama, my bet is that they will at least clean the trash up on and around their own property. They might even pay to have the other trash in public areas cleaned up as well. So in a way, the development might be a good thing. And the situation with the residents there, imprisoned in poverty, is sad. I am sure they, like most anyone else in the civilized world would like to have a good job, be able to afford TV, a nice car, good health care, maybe be able to send their kids off to college to have a CHOICE as to what they want to do with their life. For those of us with enough money to travel there, it is fun, but we get to leave and choose where we go next. To be stuck there for one's whole life, it might get to be a drag after a while. If they can make a buck and improve their life, who are we to say that is bad?" --- But, we also have to recognize that opinions such as these reflect our cultural values. We are trying, again, to force our views of life and standards of living on other cultures. The wealthy powers have always done this - we are saving the savages from damnation and bringing them the dignity of literacy and running water. Sound familiar? It's the first step on the well-worn path to cultural genocide. Of course Coca Cola is better than their local concoction made of who knows what. And of course Starbucks expresso would be a nice treat while combing the deserts. And it would be nice to have a payphone in the middle of the desert, or cellphone service to call a tow truck. But these people have lived this way for centuries and they are fine with it. We, as "civilized" westerners, are the ones who have a problem with their apparent poverty. At what cost does one sell a soul? To be honest, I don't know if this represents "progress" to any of the locals. Sure, it means a few more pity dollars thrown their way by wealthy travelistas, but it also means the disappearance of another culture that has existed for centuries without outside interference and dominance. Having said all of that, litter is natural places disgusts me. And I have never understood what it is about being poor than means a person has an excuse to be filthy. I drive past economically-depressed areas and see dozens of able-bodied people lounging around or loitering around while they are surrounded by trash everywhere. None of them think to take 5 minutes and pick it up and put it in a dumpster that is usually 10 feet away. Apparently being poor is intrinsically related to tolerance of trash and dirt. Even if I was spit-poor, I'd have the cleanest and neatest mud hut in the village. Well, I guess when we have a wall-to-wall neon and concrete world, then we'll finally be happyright? Or will this compulsive need to spread "progress" extend to other cultures we encounter while exploring space? Best regards and clear skies from the closet-mountain-man, MikeG ... Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. --- On Fri, 1/9/09, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: > From: meteorh...@aol.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination? > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 11:01 AM > All, > > I am a bit conflicted with this too. > > However, to insist that a group of humans stay in a setting > from a couple > centuries ago, like keeping apes in a fake looking jungle > cage at the zoo, just > so we can go an see them "undisturbed" is a bit > morbid. > > Like others on the list, I too have visited San Pedro de > Atacama on my > several trips
Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
Steve's post about the absence of "Keep Chile Clean" signs took me right back to that long but thrilling drive from Santiago in southern Chile all the way up the Pan American highway to Antofagasta -- the gateway to the Atacama. That was during our 1997 expedition to Vaca Muerta, La Pampa, and Imilac. We were a three-person team, well prepared with plenty of supplies, jerry cans full of extra gas and water and so on. I guess we all expected it would be possible to buy firewood on the way, or maybe find dead tree branches for our desert campfires, but really there are NO trees out there. Or bugs, cactus, reptiles or even the tiniest plant. No wonder NASA tested Mars robots in the Atacama. It is spectacular, but also the most barren place imaginable. Well, except for Mars I guess. So, there we were, pounding up the Pan American highway, dodging ferocious Chilean truck and bus drivers (you'd think the shrines to dead motorists every fifty feet would get them to slow down, but they just go faster), bemoaning the fact that we didn't have any firewood. And then we started noticing the non-stop debris trail on both sides of the highway: busted crates, boxes, fence posts, bits of . . . well we really couldn't guess what most of the wood had once been part of. It really was endless. At some point either Steve or I exclaimed: "Hey we should just pull over and start picking up some of this scrap wood off the highway!" We stopped numerous times and piled so much wood into the back of our truck that we looked like refugees during the Retreat from Moscow. So, we did our bit to clean up the P.A. highway, got some free campfire fuel, and all that scrap wood did a great job of hiding our valuable metal detectors from gawkers. All in all it worked out pretty well. We even left some bonus firewood at the Imilac campsite for Michael Cottingham who was due to show up a few weeks after us and he never did write to say thanks : ) Here are a few photos from that trip: http://www.aerolite.org/expeditions/pampa.htm http://www.aerolite.org/expeditions/imilac-sign.htm http://www.aerolite.org/expeditions/chile-finds.htm I must say, I do miss the pisco! That was one of the best parts, as I'm sure Steve will testify : ) Regards, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
Hey MikeG, First off, the Atacama is a very large place. Lot's of meteorites still to be found in desolate areas. I don't think there will be any concern about filling up a fraction of 1% of it, much less all of it. There would be room for several billion inmates if anyone decided to build a prison there. WARNING, I am swerving off the Meteorite Topic in the rest of my email! Second, I do want to take issue with you on your comment: "But, we also have to recognize that opinions such as these reflect our cultural values. We are trying, again, to force our views of life and standards of living on other cultures. The wealthy powers have always done this - we are saving the savages from damnation and bringing them the dignity of literacy and running water. Sound familiar?" I really don't think this is a matter of western culture's Hollywood forcing their morals on the rest of the world people who are living a more traditional life. I think this is a matter of letting people make the choice for themselves. There is a reason why Coca-Cola is everywhere, there is something about it that makes people like to buy it once the pop machine is plugged in. Actually, I would think historically there is more precedent for the wealthy powers to want to keep the masses poor, dependent and ignorant, rather than prosperous, independent and educated. It seems around the world, it is the local leaders (often religious) that want to stop our western culture from spreading into their strongholds, and all the while it is their people, that they control, that want the freedom. Yes, rich people or governments (not that the Chilean Government should be considered "wealthy") will be putting up the hotels and will cultivate the tourism. Yes, it might encroach on some people that want the old simple life in the San Pedro hut. But, if the business efforts are successful, then the poor people can sell their hut for $1,000,000 move a hundred kilometers down the dirt road, build or buy another $1,000 house, and put the rest of the money under their mattress, or burn it for a cooking fire. Ask 500 poor people in the village if they each want $1,000,000 and the choices of life that money would bring, or to be stuck in their poverty? My guess is that 498 will say they want the money and the choices it brings. Such is progress. I think letting people have their own choice is important. More often than not, people that are held back, without the choices, are ones that would rather break out of the restraints of their parents culture. After all, it wasn't a child's fault they were born when and where they were. The irony is that many in our modern western culture are tired of it, and are looking for something new, or in some cases, something old. Cool. That is what choice and freedom are all about. And a little prosperity helps one have more choices. NOTICE: All these comments come from a guy who lives in the sticks of Arkansas, in a dry county without a single movie theater or even a single stop light, who lives in a hand hewn dog trot log cabin built in 1866 and who just got TV a couple of weeks ago and who home schools his kids. I know, such an email as this can incite riots. And I would probably agree with 99% of what people say about how evil our culture is, and how it would be best if the rest of the world was NOT like us. Anyway, I just know how excited I was to get away from the culture of my small Kansas town I grew up in, to get to the big city culture when I got out of high school. The grass is always greener, isn't it? Choices are wonderful. God Bless America! Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas In a message dated 1/9/2009 11:36:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com writes: Hi Steve and Mike, I would be one hell of a pretentious upstart to disagree with someone who has actually been there. My travels in the Atacama are limited to armchair fantasies and future pipe dreams. I do hope to visit there one day in the future, but I'd like it to look like ATACAMA when I get there, and not Orlando Florida. Steve, I can't argue with the logic and rationale of what you say here : - "But, also as unforgettable, was all the trash strewn about the highway for thousands of miles up and down the Pan American highway. Somebody forgot to put up the "Keep Chile Clean" signs. Litter was so abundant, especially at railroad crossings. Burned out cars and buses were sitting on the side of the road from car wrecks years if not decades before. What 99% of people saw when traveling on the highway(s) of Chile was the trash, not the beauty. You had to get off the highway before things would clean up. So to me, my hunch is that if there are high class hotels coming in to the San Pedro de Atacama, my bet is that they will at least clean the trash up on and aro
Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
In a message dated 1/9/2009 12:07:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, geok...@notkin.net writes: Steve's post about the absence of "Keep Chile Clean" signs took me right back to that long but thrilling drive from Santiago in southern Chile all the way up the Pan American highway to Antofagasta -- the gateway to the Atacama. . Geoff, Great post, but I must correct you one on thing: Santiago is in the MIDDLE of Chile, not in southern Chile. It only SEEMS like it is in the southern part with the 24 hours of driving it takes to get north to Antofagasta. Many people don't realize that the "little" country of Chile is as long as L.A. is from New York. And starting at Santiago is like flying into St. Louis and then driving there rest of the way into Tucson. Getting to San Pedro de Atacama is like going on to Tombstone, AZ. Speaking of Tucson and culture, it is about that time again when people from virtually every culture on the planet converge to barter another years worth of goods. I can hardly wait! Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
In a message dated 1/9/2009 12:07:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, geok...@notkin.net writes: I must say, I do miss the pisco! That was one of the best parts, as I'm sure Steve will testify : ) . Geoff, Honestly, I don't remember all that much about the pisco... ;-)I remember starting to drink it... then... it all gets quit fuzzy. Yea, I miss it too! Steve **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: January 5-9, 2009
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES January 5-9, 2009 o Crater Dunes (Released 05 January 2009) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090105a o Channel (Released 06 January 2009) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090106a o Lycus Suici (Released 07 January 2009) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090107a o Marte Vallis (Released 08 January 2009) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090108a o Landslide (Released 09 January 2009) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090109a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
Hi Steve, You do make some good points that are well worth considering. I am not an enemy of progress, but I do hate to see this progress come at the cost of the surrounding natural environment or the dignity of local cultures. It's a fine line to walk. I do think that all peoples should be able to read, write, voice their opinions, and be free to pursue whatever makes them happy if it hurts nobody else - even if that happiness is a gold mansion with a platinum toliet seat, or if it's a hand-hewn log cabin in the Ozarks. Steve, I really envy this part of your reply : "NOTICE: All these comments come from a guy who lives in the sticks of Arkansas, in a dry county without a single movie theater or even a single stop light, who lives in a hand hewn dog trot log cabin built in 1866 and who just got TV a couple of weeks ago and who home schools his kids." I used to live in a dry county in rural northern Mississippi (New Albany), and I loved the lack of hustle and bustle. I am one of those people you mention who wants to get back to a simpler lifestyle. And my fantasies of a National-Geographic-like trip to the Atacama has just been squashed by visions of Land Rovers full of well-heeled tourists and highways strewn with trash. I guess we still have the Gobi in rural Mongolia. I have a penpal over there whose mother is a shaman and lives in a yurt. He says the skies are fantastically dark and there is no development outside of the major cities. Now that sounds like paradise to me. BTW, shouldn't the Gobi be a good source of meteorites? I asked him about this, but I don't recall what he said. I'll have to go dig for his reply in my inbox mountain. I apologize as well for getting this off-topic. Best regards and clear skies, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. --- On Fri, 1/9/09, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: > From: meteorh...@aol.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination? > To: michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 12:38 PM > Hey MikeG, > > First off, the Atacama is a very large place. Lot's > of meteorites still to > be found in desolate areas. I don't think there will > be any concern about > filling up a fraction of 1% of it, much less all of it. > There would be room > for several billion inmates if anyone decided to build a > prison there. > > WARNING, I am swerving off the Meteorite Topic in the rest > of my email! > > Second, I do want to take issue with you on your comment: > > "But, we also have to recognize that opinions such as > these reflect our > cultural values. We are trying, again, to force our views > of life > and standards of living on other cultures. The wealthy > powers have > always done this - we are saving the savages from > damnation and > bringing them the dignity of literacy and running water. > Sound > familiar?" > > I really don't think this is a matter of western > culture's Hollywood forcing > their morals on the rest of the world people who are > living a more > traditional life. I think this is a matter of letting > people make the choice for > themselves. There is a reason why Coca-Cola is > everywhere, there is something > about it that makes people like to buy it once the pop > machine is plugged in. > > Actually, I would think historically there is more > precedent for the wealthy > powers to want to keep the masses poor, dependent and > ignorant, rather than > prosperous, independent and educated. > > It seems around the world, it is the local leaders (often > religious) that > want to stop our western culture from spreading into their > strongholds, and all > the while it is their people, that they control, that want > the freedom. > > Yes, rich people or governments (not that the Chilean > Government should be > considered "wealthy") will be putting up the > hotels and will cultivate the > tourism. Yes, it might encroach on some people that want > the old simple life in > the San Pedro hut. But, if the business efforts are > successful, then the > poor people can sell their hut for $1,000,000 move a > hundred kilometers down > the dirt road, build or buy another $1,000 house, and put > the rest of the > money under their mattress, or burn it for a cooking fire. > > Ask 500 poor people in the village if they each want > $1,000,000 and the > choices of life that money would bring, or to be stuck in > their poverty? My > guess is that 498 will say they want the money and the > choices it brings. > > Such is progress. I think letting people have their own > choice is >
Re: [meteorite-list] Comet smashes triggered ancient famine ???
>From what little research I did, I had understood that a substantial chunk of >the sun-blotting fog was actually 'vog', which outgassed from major eruptions >in Iceland. Iceland underwent several periods of volcanic activity during the >'Dark Ages', where multiple volcanic vents burped out stifling clouds of gas. >The gas periodically got so thick and noxious that it poisoned vegetation, >killed animals, and sickened almost everyone else; there was at least one >major exodus of survivors around 770 a.c.e. Tracy Latimer > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:12:59 -0800 > From: bristo...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Comet smashes triggered ancient famine ??? > > Comet smashes triggered ancient famine > January 7, 2009 by Ker Than > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126882.900-comet-smashes-triggered-ancient-famine.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news > > Abbott, D. H., P. Biscaye, J. Cole-Dai, and D. Breger, 2008, > Magnetite and Silicate Spherules from the GISP2 Core at the 536 A.D. Horizon > American Geophysical Union, Fall Meeting 2008, abstract #PP41B-1454 > > http://www.agu.org/cgi-bin/SFgate/SFgate?&listenv=table&multiple=1&range=1&directget=1&application=fm08&database=%2Fdata%2Fepubs%2Fwais%2Findexes%2Ffm08%2Ffm08&maxhits=200&=%22PP41B-1454%22 > > and > > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008AGUFMPP41B1454A > > Yours, > > Paul H. > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Triggered Ancient New York Tsunami ???
Meteorite Triggered Ancient New York Tsunami? by Ker Than, National Geographic News, December 31, 2008, http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/12/081231-new-york-tsunami.html New York City's natural hazards: Rats, roaches and & tsunamis? by Jordan Lite, Scientific American, http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=new-york-citys-natural-hazards-rats-2008-12-30 Cagen, K. T., D. Abbott, F. Nitsche, A. West, T. Bunch, D. Breger, A. Slagle, and S. Carbotte, 2008, Evidence for a Tsunamigenic Impact Event in the New York Metropolitan Area Approximately 2300 B.P., Eos Trans. Aemrican Geophysical Insitute, vol.89, no. 53, Fall Meet. Supplement, abstract P31A-1381, http://www.agu.org/cgi-bin/SFgate/SFgate?&listenv=table&multiple=1&range=1&directget=1&application=fm08&database=%2Fdata%2Fepubs%2Fwais%2Findexes%2Ffm08%2Ffm08&maxhits=200&=%22P31A-1381%22 or http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008AGUFM.P31A1381C Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pultusk ID card question
Dear List Members, Does anybody recognize what collection or dealer these Pultusk peas came from? I was going through my safe and found two small bottles with Qty 25 of these weighing a total 69.9 grams. Only one label was included and it was rolled inside the bottle. Each stone has a faded "P" painted on them and the ID card has a MT-11 designation on it. I remember trading for these during a Blood auction about six years ago but forgot what dealer or collector I got them from. I seemed to have misplaced my notes or failed to write them down. If you traded these to me or recognize the ID card, please contact me so that I can update my notes and make these available. Here are some images: http://themeteoritesite.com/Pultusk-a.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Pultusk-b.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Pultusk-c.jpg Thank you and best regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Who is The 5th Cylon? Highlights Added For Your Ease and Pleasure!
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pultusk ID card question
Dear Paul and List, Thank you for the very quick responses. A List member mentioned McCarthy Taylor but this does not ring a bell with me. Rob Elliot was mentioned as having some labeled with a "P" and most curious of all was Paul's reference to Prisoner Pultusk Peas. Forgive my ignorance, but what does this Mean? Somebody also mentioned that MT-11 (Mathew 11)could be a bible reference to a meteorite shower. I do not generally collect falls but do find the history fascinating. Best Regards, Adam --- On Fri, 1/9/09, litig8nsh...@aol.com wrote: > From: litig8nsh...@aol.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pultusk ID card question > To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 12:28 PM > Great looking Pultusk specimens. Can't tell you > who's label it is, but all > those little "P"'s painted on themwell, > what you have there is a > collection of Prisoner Pultusk Peas. > > Regards, as always, > > Paul Martyn > Savannah GA > > > In a message dated 1/9/2009 3:14:47 P.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > raremeteori...@yahoo.com writes: > > Dear List Members, > > Does anybody recognize what collection or dealer these > Pultusk peas came > from? I was going through my safe and found two small > bottles with Qty 25 of > these weighing a total 69.9 grams. Only one label was > included and it was rolled > inside the bottle. Each stone has a faded "P" > painted on them and the ID > card has a MT-11 designation on it. I remember trading for > these during a Blood > auction about six years ago but forgot what dealer or > collector I got them > from. I seemed to have misplaced my notes or failed to > write them down. If > you traded these to me or recognize the ID card, please > contact me so that I > can update my notes and make these available. > > > Here are some images: > http://themeteoritesite.com/Pultusk-a.jpg > http://themeteoritesite.com/Pultusk-b.jpg > http://themeteoritesite.com/Pultusk-c.jpg > > Thank you and best regards, > > Adam > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See > yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NOT AN AD- But An Invite-To See Some SLICES!!! Of Carancas, Peru!
Hello, I thought it would be nice to share my photos of The Carancas slices I made from one of my larger fragments. I know most folks out there have a specimen of Carancas in a fragment of 5 grams or less, with a few larger fragments in a few collections. How about slices? Take a look if you have ever wanted to know what it looks like inside...I did, so I painfully took one of my larger fragments ~ 70 grams and walked it over to the saw I am happy I did! Priced High and at this time, I don't care if any sell. Just thought since I have not seen any photos of slices... I thought I would share mine with everyone. Take a look... http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history There somewhere in my store... just type in Carancas in the search box. Best Wishes and Thanks Michael Cottingham __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Selects Research Teams for Lunar Science Institute
Jan. 09, 2009 Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov Michael Mewhinney Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. 650-604-3937 michael.s.mewhin...@nasa.gov RELEASE: 09-004 NASA SELECTS RESEARCH TEAMS FOR LUNAR SCIENCE INSTITUTE MOFFETT FIELD, Calif. -- NASA has selected seven academic and research teams as initial members of the agency's Lunar Science Institute. The institute supports scientific research to supplement and extend existing NASA lunar science programs in coordination with U.S. space exploration policy. The selection of the members encompasses academic institutions, non-profit research institutes, private companies, NASA centers and other government laboratories. Selections were based on a competitive evaluation process that began with the release of a cooperative agreement notice in June 2008. The next solicitation opportunity for new members will take place in approximately two years. "We are extremely pleased with the response of the science community and the high quality of proposals received," said David Morrison, the institute's interim director at NASA's Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif. "The institute represents a big step forward in developing a new generation of lunar scientists." The selected initial member teams are: - The Moon as Cornerstone to the Terrestrial Planets: The Formative Years; principal investigator Carle Pieters, Brown University in Providence, R.I. - Scientific and Exploration Potential of the Lunar Poles; principal investigator Ben Bussey, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md. - Impact Processes in the Origin and Evolution of the Moon: New Sample-driven Perspectives; principal investigator David Kring, Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston - Dynamic Response of the Environment at the Moon; principal investigator William Farrell, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. - Understanding the Formation and Bombardment History of the Moon; principal investigator William Bottke, Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo. - Lunar University Node for Astrophysics Research: Exploring the Cosmos from the Moon; principal investigator Jack Burns, University of Colorado in Boulder. - NASA Lunar Science Institute: Colorado Center for Lunar Dust and Atmospheric Studies; principal investigator Mihaly Horanyi, University of Colorado in Boulder "We look forward to solid contributions from these teams," said Jim Green, director of the Planetary Division at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "These are some of the key individuals who will be vital to NASA successfully conducting the ambitious activities of returning to the moon with robots and humans." Teams were selected from 33 proposals. Based and managed at Ames, the lunar facility is a virtual institute, enabling the newly selected members to remain at their home institutions. Partnerships and collaborations among members are highly encouraged and facilitated through a variety of proven networking tools, such as frequent videoconferences. Opened in April 2008, the facility is modeled after the NASA Astrobiology Institute, also based at Ames. That institute is a virtual facility that has successfully sustained a productive research program for more than a decade. The newly selected Lunar Institute teams, along with the international associate and affiliate teams, have members working together throughout the world. The institutes are supported by the Science Mission Directorate and Exploration Systems Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. For further information on the institute and lunar science visit: http://lunarscience.nasa.gov -end- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet Lulin (C/2007 N3) Is Approaching
Space Weather News for Jan. 9, 2009 http://spaceweather.com APPROACHING COMET: Comet Lulin (C/2007 N3), discovered in 2007 by a collaborative team of Taiwanese and Chinese astronomers, is u swinging around the sun and approaching Earth. The photogenic comet has a bright tail and an "anti-tail" visible in mid-sized backyard telescopes. At closest approach in February, Comet Lulin is expected to brighten to naked-eye visibility. Visit http://Spaceweather.com for sky maps, pictures and more information. [snip] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Buzzard Coulee photo gallery
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Re: [meteorite-list] Progress or ruination?
Yes, I would love to return there. The Atacama is spectacular.Did any notice, sans the Pisco, the night sky? I don't think I have ever seen such anywhere,The Magellanic Clouds, the amazing meteors, just normal run of the mill ones that actually lit the ground. San Pedro de Atacama, what a place. I have some stories to tell of that place the night Marvin Killgore, his friend and me stayed there (actually because of some local festival we camped outside of town.) Marvin is the one to lead a trip out there, for sure. Pure fun, an unforgettable experience... Especially after he mixes up a coke 50-50 pisco and gave it me without warning as we were camping at Imilac.11,000 feet and that go real good together. Real good... And I had a great deal of "fun" setting up my campsite and they had a lot of fun watching me stagger through it. Amazingly, I had no hangover the next morning when were were to search the field again. I found 8 kg of meteorites in four days of solid searching. And lastly, what about the Antofagasta airport? I remember that there was a mine field surrounding it, big fences with signs stating something like: "PELIGRO EL MINO" And I recall to my astonishment a tombstone over the fence line, at the edge of what looked like a crater.Some lout did not heed the sign, I suppose. Now why would they want a mine field around that airport literally out in the middle of nowhere? Steve Schoner IMCA 4470 Want to be an interior designer? Click here to get info about top interior design schools. http://thirdpartyoffers.mybluelight.com/TGL2341/fc/PnY6rzHYkye2uYYdHkRftmCeBYA4e4NTKegUbxiUS0POidnsQxaw8/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] impressions...achondrite?
apologies if this shows up twice but I forgot to send plain text the first time and assume it won't make it. Hello everyone, I received some small unusual stones in a batch of NWA's a while back. I figured they were to small to find anything out but am too curious to let it go entirely. I know just looking at pictures is problematic but am just looking for impressions. Could these be something other than ordinary chondrites? I posted a couple of pictures here: http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/mystery/ The first two are halves of the same stone - one polished and the other rough cut. They are approximately 20mm long. The third is an even smaller windowed stone about 12mm long. Thoughts on or off-list appreciated. Flames off-list please :-) Regards, Phil __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite - July 2008
http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/july2008.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au Director - I.M.C.A. Inc. www.imca.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite - July 2008
For those wondering... yes July 2008... your calendars and computers are fine! Still a bit behind but working on it! ;-) Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kuyken" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite - July 2008 http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/july2008.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au Director - I.M.C.A. Inc. www.imca.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD SALE Meteorite Auctions ending on ebay today 1/10 through 1/15
Hello List Members, I hope everyone is having a great weekend! I have several ebay auctions ending today 1/10 through 1/15. Please take a look. BARWELL METEORITE 1.4 gm L6 RARE 1965 COA IMCA ENGLAND BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN STONY, OLIVINE-HYPERSTHENE CHONDRITE Item number: 28021277 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=28021277&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018 AGOULT METEORITE .61g IMCA ACHONDRITE EUCRITE RARE RARE NICE PART SLICE IMCA COA AEUC STONE ACHONDRITE EUCRITE Item number: 270325729519 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270325729519&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=017 BRUDERHEIM METEORITE 14.15g L6 RARE CRUST IMCA CANADA LARGE BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN ALBERTA, CANADA IMCA COA RARE Item number: 280300266771 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280300266771&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018 KAINSAZ METEORITE 1.652 g CO3 RARE 1937 COA IMCA RUSSIA BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN CO3 TARTARSTAN REPUBLIC, RUSSIA Item number: 280300532216 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280300532216 BENSOUR METEORITE 1.652g LL6 RARE COA IMCA BLACK CRUST BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN LL6 MOROCCO GREAT STONE FUSION CRUST Item number: 270327505662 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270327505662&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=017 BILANGA METEORITE ACHONDRITE DIOGENITE 7.g CRUST IMCA BURKINA FASO FUSION CRUST COA ACHONDRITE DIOGENITE RARE Item number: 270327962334 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270327962334&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=017 EL HAMMAMI METEORITE 29.2gm COA IMCA BLACK FUSION CRUST LARGE BEAUTIFUL H5/6 MAURITANIA GREAT LARGE CRUST SLICE Item number: 270327897200 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270327897200&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=017 ACFER 209 METEORITE .332 g CR2 RARE COA IMCA BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN ALGERIA CR2 Item number: 270327948008 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270327948008&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=017 Thanks for looking! Brian Cox IMCA # 6387 searchingforfun on ebay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gobi and Meteorite Recovery...was Progress or ruination?
--- On Fri, 1/9/09, Michael Gilmer wrote: > BTW, shouldn't the Gobi be a good source of meteorites? The Gobi has become a very researched area in the last 2 decades for its dinosaur fossil deposits. We would hope that given the amount of dinosaur hunting , it would also yield a meteorite or two but I haven't heard of any finds being reported. Then again I've not researched specifically, perhaps there are more than I am aware of. I have read --but can't confirm where-- that the Gobi is not a producer of meteorites because: 1.AGE: While parts of the Gobi date back to 20-30 my, by in large, the Gobi we know today isn't so old - its youngish undisturbed "apron" for collecting hasn't been lain out open to receive the heavenly fruits as long as the Sahara's has been. It certainly has an older core but human induced desertification is responsible for making it the 4th largest desert. The Gobi lies in the rain shadow of the somewhat young Himalayans--it is getting dryer over time. One would need to look at its paleoclimate since the last ice retreat for comparison to the Sahara's climate and expansion to spot the differences. The Gobi plunges to -40 degrees in winter so the thaw freeze cycle is more a weathering factor there than in the Sahara. Both have grown under human occupation, so if any stash of meteorites are to be found we should be looking in the oldest regions--except for the next caveat. 2.SAND vs. ROCK cover. Gobi Bedrock Geology is more exposed than in North Africa. The existing sand dunes in the Gobi are semi-rare in the Gobi as compared to the Sahara. We know that the migration of sand dunes has a preserving effect on Saharan meteorites buffering them from extremes. The dunes of the Gobi are more localized in basins like those of Colorado for example. Elton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Who is The 5th Cylon? Highlights Added For Your Ease and Pleasure!
Pardon me? I've seen a lot of things advertised on this list, mostly meteorites at least. Now we're selling propylactics? Is this a gas station? _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
