Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD
Hi Howard and all, I've probably got this wrong but sounds like you are addressing Steve Arnold from Chicago. The original Steve Arnold or Meteorhunter who has been around for many years, long before the Steve Arnold of Chicago is a seller of meteorites and really isn't a collector. That is why he is offering up his finding from West Texas to the list. Best! --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Howard Steffic bencub...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD Well, that didn't take long. Selling the first one you found? Howard Steffic From: meteorh...@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:53:42 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD Hey List, I have one West, Texas specimen I would be willing to sell. Contact me off list if you might be interested. I will not be able to respond until late tonight to any replies. Steve Arnold www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnolds
I am always amazed there are still list members who don't get This fact. Please look up, Steve Arnold and Steve Arnold (Listed by first name) at: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/MeteoriteFriends.html You will see they are VERY different people. Best wishes, Michael On 2/22/09 12:00 AM, Al Mitterling alm...@kconline.com wrote: Hi Howard and all, I've probably got this wrong but sounds like you are addressing Steve Arnold from Chicago. The original Steve Arnold or Meteorhunter who has been around for many years, long before the Steve Arnold of Chicago is a seller of meteorites and really isn't a collector. That is why he is offering up his finding from West Texas to the list. Best! --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Howard Steffic bencub...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD Well, that didn't take long. Selling the first one you found? Howard Steffic From: meteorh...@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:53:42 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD Hey List, I have one West, Texas specimen I would be willing to sell. Contact me off list if you might be interested. I will not be able to respond until late tonight to any replies. Steve Arnold www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Mali Meteorites medal #082 auction on ebay ends in 12 hours
In about 12 hours the auction of the Mali Meteorites medal #082 (of 100) ends on ebay http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160316206960 Best wishes André André Knöfel Lindenberg, Germany IMCA #4122 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?
Today is my 77th year. I guess I have done more things and have had more fun in life than can be described in this short message. I'm supposed to be retired, but I just can't stop. I have to college degrees in Geology and chemistry. I've sold all the corporations I owned. My patents (12) provided me an income before they expired and now I spend my time on Meteorite restoration research and Paleontological restoration adhesives. My world wide traveling has slowed and I find my wine cellar is in need of restocking. But I hold up my glass to all of you (with a smile on my face) as you are caught up in the crazy wonderful world of meteorites - Bill Mason III rusty -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of csac...@triad.rr.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:35 AM To: André Knöfel; MeteoriteList Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ? I'm in North Carolina, USA and sell new Toyota cars and trucks. I'll offer any meteorite collector a great deal on any new Toyota! eBay member : chickenbidder Carl 336-266-6140 André Knöfel aknoe...@minorplanets.de wrote: Ok, next one, I'm 45, live in a small village between Berlin and the polish border and work for the German Weather Service as a programmer and technician. André Knöfel - original Nachricht Betreff: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ? Gesendet: Do, 19. Feb 2009 Von: Pelé Pierre-Mariepierremariep...@yahoo.fr Hello List, as we communicate frequently through the List, I sometimes think about what is your job ? The meteorites are what we share in common but most of you are not meteorite dealers. So I thought it could be cool to know a little bit more from each other. So I start ;-) I'm 38, live west of Paris (France) and am Project Manager on TV for Orange (telecommunications company) Pierre-Marie Pele www.meteor-center.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- original Nachricht Ende __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD : Entry-level hammer micros - going fast and cheap
Hi Listees! I am doing a spring-cleaning of the micromount drawers in my specimen cabinet. I upgraded some pieces and now some of these specimens are redundant - so I am selling off the smaller ones. Each of these specimens comes with a 1.25 gemjar and label. If there is an original specimen card from the dealer I bought it from, I will include that as well. All of these micros are small - some of them are speck-sized. One of them weighs only 1mg. So, I have priced these accordingly. This is an inexpensive way to have some very rare falls represented in your collection. All prices include CONUS shipping. Canada or Overseas shipping will be $5 extra. PayPal only for Canada/Overseas. 1) Moss - Fell, July 14, 2006. CO3.6 - 1mg - $5 2) Claxton - Fell, December 10, 1984. L6 - 16mg (w/ some FC) - $11 3) Murchison - Fell, September 28, 1969. CM2 - 1mg - $5 4) Holbrook - Fell, July 19, 1912. L/LL6 - ~10mg - $5 5) Gao Guenie - Fell, March 5, 1960. H5 - 2.6gr w/residual crust - $6 I'm feeling jovial today, so buy all 5 and I will put them in an 8x6 Riker box for $26 shipped. That's 5 hammers for $26. ($31 Canada or Overseas, $1000 to the Orion Arm or Andromeda) To inquire, contact me offlist - m...@galactic-stone.com Thanks for looking! PS - I have many other low-cost micromounts available, check my updated listing at - http://glassthrower.com/meteorites4sale.html#micros . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ...television, I see television
Hello all - You know, these hunts would make great reality tv. While reality tv shows usually have to contrive some drama and tension, in the case of meteorite hunts the competition between the teams provides natural tension. The hunts occur at varying locations, which might interest viewers. Of course, the different competing teams would have to pool their videos for such a project to come off, so that could be tense, but then there may be money to be made. And the pr from the tv would certainly increase the market price for the stones. It's too bad we don't have a television producer here. Maybe Bob Haag knows someone. Brenham Steve Arnold worked with the Discovery channel, so maybe he knows someone there who could put a show or two together. E.P. Grondine - 57, single, stroke, broke, used to write, sells book Man and Impact in the Americas written before stroke. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ...television, I see television
Hi Larry - Too bad I came up with the idea too late, and won't make any money off of it. At least its good to know that someone else thought the same way; it kind of validates my thought processes, and with this stroke, that is a good thing indeed. So who's rented the dog? My best wishes to the folks in the field. Good hunting, all Ed --- On Sun, 2/22/09, thetop...@aol.com thetop...@aol.com wrote: From: thetop...@aol.com thetop...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ...television, I see television To: epgrond...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 12:30 PM Ed, It's happening right now, more details to come in the Spring. -Larry In a message dated 2/22/2009 1:06:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, epgrond...@yahoo.com writes: Hello all - You know, these hunts would make great reality tv. While reality tv shows usually have to contrive some drama and tension, in the case of meteorite hunts the competition between the teams provides natural tension. The hunts occur at varying locations, which might interest viewers. Of course, the different competing teams would have to pool their videos for such a project to come off, so that could be tense, but then there may be money to be made. And the pr from the tv would certainly increase the market price for the stones. It's too bad we don't have a television producer here. Maybe Bob Haag knows someone. Brenham Steve Arnold worked with the Discovery channel, so maybe he knows someone there who could put a show or two together. E.P. Grondine - 57, single, stroke, broke, used to write, sells book Man and Impact in the Americas written before stroke. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Last Post Of The Week. Auctions End Weds/25th- 30% Off Sale Ends In A Few Hours- 4kg/Possible Main Mass awaits inspection.
Final Post before I head out the door to West, Texas. I received a call from someone in West, who says they have a ~4kg stone. This could be the Main Mass-I do not know for sure. I also do not know if it is for real or not, but what the heck I was heading that way anyway. This person says that they have not allowed any hunting on their property, except for their family. They already chased off several folks who were trespassing and they felt way too many folks were bothering them. They got my name off of ebay after looking at my ebay store. Hello, Here is this weeks Auctions. Many Thousands of Dollars Worth Of Great Specimens- Started At 0.99 Cents. I am also having a 30% off sale running for the next few hours. Then I am off to West, Texas to Hunt/Buy some new stones. HIGHLIGHTS: Fresh New-Main Mass, NWA 5544, L5, 204 gram, A Really Nice MAIN MASS ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311904449 Complete Slice of TOLUCA, Mexico, IAB, 392g- A Great Slice! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311868972 Beautiful GIBEON, IVA Iron Specimen, 308g CS - My LAST Complete Slice for Auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311879744 Seldom Available SOUSLOVO, Russia, L4, 2.62g, This is a cool meteorite! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311878948 Super Rare HONOLULU, L5 Fall, 0.072 gram, MY very LAST ONE! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311876902 (NEW), NWA 5534, L5-6, 48.54 gram, This is a really pretty specimen! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311877216 Witnessed Fall THUATHE, Lesotho, 22.23 g, A Beautiful END CUT! Check Out The Fusion Crust! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861515 Ungrouped Ataxite, DRONINO, Russia, 134 g, Nice Complete Slice! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861542 A Classic, OZONA, Texas, H6 Chondrite, 3.59g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861525 (New) WILBUR WASH, Az., L6, Slice, 3.41 gram, Only A Limited Amount Available! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861551 (New) CV3, NWA 5546 From Africa, 88.27 gram-BIB-BIG SPECIMEN! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861557 Really Nice BELLE PLAINE, Kansas, L6, 4.53 g-Pretty Slice! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861562 Rare Low TKW, DAVY (B), Texas, H4, 4.09g-RARE, VERY LOW TOTAL KNOWN WEIGHT! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861571 Very Rare and Beautiful, NWA 801, CR2, 2.88g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861577 CANYON DIABLO Individual, 165.66 gram-Nice Individual! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861585 Seldom Available TAHOKA, Texas, L5, 1.66 g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861592 VYATKA, Russia, H4/5 Chondrite, 11.70g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861597 (New) NWA 4734, Lunar Specimen Display! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311866563 (NEW) NWA 4293, H6, 100 gram Lot #1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311866939 Nice Slice of OUM DREYGA, Fall, H3-5, 24.04g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311871286 (NEW) NWA 4851, L6 With Shock Lines, 120.10g-A VERY BEAUTIFUL SPECIMEN! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311873550 Super Rare GEORGETOWN, Australia, 5 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311873976 (NEW) An Amazing LL5, NWA 2380, 48.79 gram- THIS Is A Very Cool Meteorite! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311876658 (New) Olivine Diogenite-NWA 5480, 5.59 gram- Nice Slice of This Famous Rarity! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311875090 Classic GOLD BASIN, Arizona, L4, 57.12 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311903931 Rare Mesosiderite- NWA 1878 , LTKW, 7.87 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311903408 Here are some killer deals-Lowest of The Lowest on most of these! A Big Stone! NWA Chondrite, 14kg, Main Mass, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311873196 Super Rare GEORGETOWN, Australia, 928 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311878350 (New) WILBUR WASH, Az., L6, Main Mass, 1234g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311870578 Beautiful L3, SAHARA 02500, 8,700 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311896672 (NEW) NWA 5530, H5, Main Mass, 7,000 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311893486 RARE LAKE MURRAY, Ok, IIAB, Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311909729 Ungrouped Ataxite, DRONINO, Russia, 2594 g
[meteorite-list] more freebies
Hi list from chitown.I have 6 more freebies available to those who have the time to chime in.Here is what is available:8.2 gram unclassed slice,a 9.4 gram slice,a 10.8 gram slice,and a 17.3 gram slice.All are unclassified slices with nice chondrules.The other 2 pieces are small slice of DONG UJIMQIN QI meso.They are 0.4 and 0.8 grams.Chime in quick,these will be gone before you know it.And if some of you have never gotten any of my freebies,now is the time.I know there are alot of closet list members who do not chime in very often. Steve R.Arnold,Chicago! a rel=nofollow target=_blank href=http://chicagometeorites.net/;http://chicagometeorites.net//a __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 22, 2009
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[meteorite-list] West-- article and video
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Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?
Hello All- Dave Mouat asked me to post this for him. Cheers, Bob From: David Mouat Dear Listees I agree with the majority of those who chimed in that this is indeed interesting and after all of you who have preceded me, I'll chime in. Am among the older members but not the oldest. Am a research scientist with an interest in global deserts (yes, I can put you to sleep talking about deserts as some of you know) -- have been to all continents (except Antarctica) and nearly all deserts. Have a pseudoscientific interest in the geochemistry of meteorites (the geochem part is a hobby -- how is that possible?). And am honored to be part of this interesting and incredibly diverse group. alias Hohohoba Dave __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West-- article and video
Thanks Dan! The video is definitely worth watching. Mike Tettenborn Darren Garrison wrote: http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=232800SecID=2 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD
I don't know if I'm the only person who feels this or not. I personally felt that the offering of this new material before it was officially classified was distasteful. Collectors are constantly being branded as bounty hunters or treasure seekers. Surely, all collectors can see that to obtain virgin material before it can be officially classified or examined is against scientific principles. I realise that some collectors may have more money to hand than museums. I also realise that the hunters have overheads to cover but the offering of material to collectors before it is offered to science just seems wrong to me. My hobby is other peoples livelyhood and this action just does not sit well with me and I'll wager it does not sit well with the general public, either. How does this help us? Rob McC __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD
Selling before or after official classification makes no difference to the science of these stones. It has already been examined by many on this list. If it matters, two of the first to find this material were astronomers from the University of North Texas. Further, Mexico Doug assures us a that classification sample has already been provided. There are hints that there are kilos of this stuff and that it is not a rare classification. There is no earthly reason this material should be embargoed by government or guilt. Martin Altman's astute and articulate writings on this subject apply. John Kashuba Ontario, California -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob McCafferty Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:42 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD I don't know if I'm the only person who feels this or not. I personally felt that the offering of this new material before it was officially classified was distasteful. Collectors are constantly being branded as bounty hunters or treasure seekers. Surely, all collectors can see that to obtain virgin material before it can be officially classified or examined is against scientific principles. I realise that some collectors may have more money to hand than museums. I also realise that the hunters have overheads to cover but the offering of material to collectors before it is offered to science just seems wrong to me. My hobby is other peoples livelyhood and this action just does not sit well with me and I'll wager it does not sit well with the general public, either. How does this help us? Rob McC __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD
Rob All, Classification material has already been submitted. I respectfully disagree. Whether they are sold early or not isn't as big of an issue as how they are curated, etc. It's a great thing that we have treasure hunters out in the field -- I'm not one, by the way -- and the fact that people are willing to pay good money for meteorites has led to increased recoveries well beyond the expectation of the scientific community itself. There are those who would love to acquire an early find from West, Texas, and those who do are actually fueling further recoveries in the process. Good hunting to all in West! Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob McCafferty Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:42 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD I don't know if I'm the only person who feels this or not. I personally felt that the offering of this new material before it was officially classified was distasteful. Collectors are constantly being branded as bounty hunters or treasure seekers. Surely, all collectors can see that to obtain virgin material before it can be officially classified or examined is against scientific principles. I realise that some collectors may have more money to hand than museums. I also realise that the hunters have overheads to cover but the offering of material to collectors before it is offered to science just seems wrong to me. My hobby is other peoples livelyhood and this action just does not sit well with me and I'll wager it does not sit well with the general public, either. How does this help us? Rob McC __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD
Hello Rob, Listees, While I understand your concerns regarding meteorite fever of others, I would like to assure you that our team flew Dr. Rubin material found by our fortunate team, and placed it in his hand in less than 72 hours after it was hot, or better, I should say cold. He actually was slicing it for a thin section preparation before any of the other commercial meteorite hunters reached the strewn field!!! Thanks, Dima, Rob and Sergey, you all are the best! So, in effect, Dr. Rubin did the preparation and microprobe classification in less than two days. How's that for service to science with professionalism? Thus he had the material classified before the subject commerce began, and information about the classification even somehow percolated out hours later, as thus far there has been no formal announcement. This post the formal announcement which was submitted Thursday. Our team was too busy dealing with the news to post, and I didn't get it until Friday anyway. A lot of miracles were worked from the fall. After we delegated our material to science at our personal cost (fedex next plane service was the same cost as just flying there and riling Rob out of bed to make the door to door delivery), personal and nostalgic needs fulfilled and everyone involved with our search team, we left by Friday as this community braced for something peculiar that only the meteorite list can fully=2 0appreciate. Here is the formal classification done by Dr. Rubin for the list: == W0, S3, L6 olivine Fa: 24.2±0.2 (n=12) low-Ca pyx Fs20.5±0.7Wo1.6±0.2 (n=12) kamacite has an average composition of Fe 93.1 Ni 5.8 Co 0.83 (n=4) taenite has an average composition of Fe 69.6 Ni 30.3 Co 0.30 (n=9) Taenite is much more abundant than kamacite. Many plagioclase grains exceed 50 µm in size. Some metal grains have irregular grains of troilite inside them. Metallic Cu is present in me metal grains. There are some thin metal- and sulfide-bearing shock veins. The rock exhibits signficant silicate darkening. == Though we barely saw it, the specimen he classified was very troilite rich - appeared literally caked and fragmented on it! I might suggest the name Ash Creek, a pleasant valid place name, as well as reminiscent of the Nakhla dog and Cabin Creek. While L6 is one of the most common classifications, this meteorite does have its especially exciting points, including: the presence of metallic copper! Anyways, this whole thing so blows me away, the hospitality of the locals, the speed at which we were able to operate superb coordination. I will try to get some sleep after this crazy week, and wish the best of luck t o all those in our team's footsteps. Best of luck on the main mass and mapping of the strewn field. I am convinced the main mass exists, quite psyched with our hustle and the professionalism of my peers, but must attend to family matters and will miss all of our friends along with the hoards of curiosity seekers. Best wishes and Great health, Doug -Original Message- From: Rob McCafferty rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD I don't know if I'm the only person who feels this or not. I personally felt that the offering of this new material before it was officially classified was distasteful. Collectors are constantly being branded as bounty hunters or treasure seekers. Surely, all collectors can see that to obtain virgin material before it can be officially classified or examined is against scientific principles. I realise that some collectors may have more money to hand than museums. I also realise that the hunters have overheads to cover but the offering of material to collectors before it is offered to science just seems wrong to me. My hobby is other peoples livelyhood and this action just does not sit well with me and I'll wager it does not sit well with the general public, either. How does this help us? Rob McC ___ ___ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD
Hello Rob, Listees, While I understand your concerns regarding meteorite fever of others, I would like to assure you that our team flew Dr. Rubin material found by our fortunate team, and placed it in his hand in less than 72 hours after it was hot, or better, I should say cold. He actually was slicing it for a thin section preparation before any of the other commercial meteorite hunters reached the strewn field!!! Thanks, Dima, Rob and Sergey, you all are the best! So, in effect, Dr. Rubin did the preparation and microprobe classification in less than two days. How's that for service to science with professionalism? Thus he had the material classified before the subject commerce began, and information about the classification even somehow percolated out hours later, as thus far there has been no formal announcement. This post the formal announcement which was submitted Thursday. Our team was too busy dealing with the news to post, and I didn't get it until Friday anyway. A lot of miracles were worked from the fall. After we delegated our material to science at our personal cost (fedex next plane service was the same cost as just flying there and riling Rob out of bed to make the door to door delivery), personal and nostalgic needs fulfilled and everyone involved with our search team, we left by Friday as this community braced for something peculiar that only the meteorite list can fully=2 0appreciate. Here is the formal classification done by Dr. Rubin for the list: == W0, S3, L6 olivine Fa: 24.2±0.2 (n=12) low-Ca pyx Fs20.5±0.7Wo1.6±0.2 (n=12) kamacite has an average composition of Fe 93.1 Ni 5.8 Co 0.83 (n=4) taenite has an average composition of Fe 69.6 Ni 30.3 Co 0.30 (n=9) Taenite is much more abundant than kamacite. Many plagioclase grains exceed 50 µm in size. Some metal grains have irregular grains of troilite inside them. Metallic Cu is present in me metal grains. There are some thin metal- and sulfide-bearing shock veins. The rock exhibits signficant silicate darkening. == Though we barely saw it, the specimen he classified was very troilite rich - appeared literally caked and fragmented on it! I might suggest the name Ash Creek, a pleasant valid place name, as well as reminiscent of the Nakhla dog and Cabin Creek. While L6 is one of the most common classifications, this meteorite does have its especially exciting points, including: the presence of metallic copper! Anyways, this whole thing so blows me away, the hospitality of the locals, the speed at which we were able to operate superb coordination. I will try to get some sleep after this crazy week, and wish the best of luck t o all those in our team's footsteps. Best of luck on the main mass and mapping of the strewn field. I am convinced the main mass exists, quite psyched with our hustle and the professionalism of my peers, but must attend to family matters and will miss all of our friends along with the hoards of curiosity seekers. Best wishes and Great health, Doug -Original Message- From: Rob McCafferty rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD I don't know if I'm the only person who feels this or not. I personally felt that the offering of this new material before it was officially classified was distasteful. Collectors are constantly being branded as bounty hunters or treasure seekers. Surely, all collectors can see that to obtain virgin material before it can be officially classified or examined is against scientific principles. I realise that some collectors may have more money to hand than museums. I also realise that the hunters have overheads to cover but the offering of material to collectors before it is offered to science just seems wrong to me. My hobby is other peoples livelyhood and this action just does not sit well with me and I'll wager it does not sit well with the general public, either. How does this help us? Rob McC ___ ___ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Field results - 15 Feb 2009 Texas meteorite
Hello List, I don't know if this information was shared anywhere, but hopefully it can quell any rumors regarding our total finds. They were: 12 specimens (11 were fully fusion crusted) Total weight of these, a bit over 10 ounces, distributed among six parties. Note: I am finally going through my emails in a wrestling match with a lousy hotel computer. Since many have asked, even if I had a spare I could never part with it for its nostalgic value; thanks for all the kind words and inquiries, but they are priceless and you'd really have to pry it from my cold dead hand. I would consider surrendering a little more material from my part for an accredited scientific study that sounded good. I will say some prayers tonight that the commercial guys find a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and can provide excess material for the community at large, in which case I'd get into the single file. It is a very special meteorite! Best wishes and Great Health, Doug, (Dima, Rob and Sergey) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Field results - 15 Feb 2009 Texas meteorite
Hello List, I don't know if this information was shared anywhere, but hopefully it can quell any rumors regarding our total finds. They were: 12 specimens (11 were fully fusion crusted) Total weight of these, a bit over 10 ounces, distributed among six parties. Note: I am finally going through my emails in a wrestling match with a lousy hotel computer. Since many have asked, even if I had a spare I could never part with it for its nostalgic value; thanks for all the kind words and inquiries, but they are priceless and you'd really have to pry it from my cold dead hand. I would consider surrendering a little more material from my part for an accredited scientific study that sounded good. I will say some prayers tonight that the commercial guys find a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and can provide excess material for the community at large, in which case I'd get into the single file. It is a very special meteorite! Best wishes and Great Health, Doug, (Dima, Rob and Sergey) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West-- article and video
They never get these stories right, they said the main mass has not been found. Wouldn't the largest recovered piece be the main mass until a bigger one is found? Sure seems like these Science guys are in the news a lot... I am in in West and I don't see any news crews. Hmmm On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=232800SecID=2 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West-- article and video
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:31:23 -0700, you wrote: They never get these stories right, they said the main mass has not been found. Wouldn't the largest recovered piece be the main mass until a bigger one is found? I noticed that, too. But I have to give the reporters credit for letting the guy talk on, and on, and on, and on, and... rather than giving him a 15-second sound bite. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] West, TX meteorite hunt, day 5
Well, back in the hotel after a long day's hunt. Our team recovered 9 meteorites today, including the one you saw in the pic of the day. We have extended the strewn field much longer today, with confirmed finds nearly 10 miles apart. All together, my team has recovered 30 meteorites. We are just starting. The distribution of these stones is interesting, we have 5 gram meteorites being recovered nearly 10 miles from first to last, usually you have normal size segregation, it seems this fall disrupted so many times, that sizes are not really where they should be. I have no idea how far the main mass went, we will only guess that the largest piece has been found when someone finds a larger piece every day. We found two broken stones today, and inside was the most amazing breccia. It reminds me of St Michel, white interior with spiderweb veins and nice darker clasts in a light cream-colored matrix. I spoke to most hunters today, and it is almost unanimous that no one wants to sell stones. I have seven myself and would not sell any of them. Too hard to find, too much walking and the money would not make much difference. I will keep a nice jar full of pristine flawless stones that have never been rained on. At least the weather looks great for the next 10 days, if not a little warm. It seems that virtually everyone who has come here has found a stone, a wonderful thing, that hunters are being rewarded for their hard work. I would not expect, at least at this point, for many stones to be offered for sale. Again, even at $50 gram or more, so far most people would not even pay expenses for the trip, as most stones are under 20 grams. I guess that about 10% are larger than that. I am sure the meteorite will be named West, Cottonwood is already a name, and I don't think this deserves to be a (b). A creek is just that, and I know doug want's it named that after the landowner's creek, but NOMCOM is not going to accept that. West, is a great name. We will see what tomorrow's hunt brings, good night to all. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West, TX meteorite hunt, day 5
I don't like West as the official name because it will be confusing. Someone will say the words West Texas and it sounds like they are saying that it was in western Texas, not an actual town called West. It's more obvious when it's written (e.g. West, Texas) but when people speak it, it will sound ambiguous. Just my .02 cents worth. But in any case, congrats to you (Mike) and everyone else! I wish I could be there. Regards, Bob COMETS http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/ -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] West, TX meteorite hunt, day 5 Well, back in the hotel after a long day's hunt. Our team recovered 9 meteorites today, including the one you saw in the pic of the day. We have extended the strewn field much longer today, with confirmed finds nearly 10 miles apart. All together, my team has recovered 30 meteorites. We are just starting. The distribution of these stones is interesting, we have 5 gram meteorites being recovered nearly 10 miles from first to last, usually you have normal size segregation, it seems this fall disrupted so many times, that sizes are not really where they should be. I have no idea how far the main mass went, we will only guess that the largest piece has been found when someone finds a larger piece every day. We found two broken stones today, and inside was the most amazing breccia. It reminds me of St Michel, white interior with spiderweb veins and nice darker clasts in a light cream-colored matrix. I spoke to most hunters today, and it is almost unanimous that no one wants to sell stones. I have seven myself and would not sell any of them. Too hard to find, too much walking and the money would not make much difference. I will keep a nice jar full of pristine flawless stones that have never been rained on. At least the weather looks great for the next 10 days, if not a little warm. It seems that virtually everyone who has come here has found a stone, a wonderful thing, that hunters are being rewarded for their hard work. I would not expect, at least at this point, for many stones to be offered for sale. Again, even at $50 gram or more, so far most people would not even pay expenses for the trip, as most stones are under 20 grams. I guess that about 10% are larger than that. I am sure the meteorite will be named West, Cottonwood is already a name, and I don't think this deserves to be a (b). A creek is just that, and I know doug want's it named that after the landowner's creek, but NOMCOM is not going to accept that. West, is a great name. We will see what tomorrow's hunt brings, good night to all. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West-- article and video
Hi Darren and List, I thought Doug did a fine job with the Channel 8 reporter, Veronica -- particularly under the circumstances. The man has had at most 4 hours sleep per night for at least the last 7 days; certainly allowances can and should be made for being punchy, excited, exhausted and naturally nervous with cameras rolling and bright lights in ones face. I was nervous myself, and I was only on the phone! The format was intended to be natural and spontaneous, not scripted, so there were minimal edits and no retakes. Singling out criticism of the main mass remark is, IMO, a bit petty. The main mass has changed almost every day -- even our team briefly held that transitive honor through Wednesday night. The point I believe Doug was trying to make is that an obvious front-runner (e.g. a specimen an order of magnitude larger than anything previously found) had yet to be discovered, but he was confident that one or more such finds would ultimately come to light. Best wishes and continued good hunting to all those still in Texas (and to those yet to arrive). Cheers, Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com on behalf of Darren Garrison Sent: Sun 2/22/2009 7:27 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West-- article and video On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:31:23 -0700, you wrote: They never get these stories right, they said the main mass has not been found. Wouldn't the largest recovered piece be the main mass until a bigger one is found? I noticed that, too. But I have to give the reporters credit for letting the guy talk on, and on, and on, and on, and... rather than giving him a 15-second sound bite. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West, TX meteorite hunt, day 5
Hi Mike and List, Congrats on your continuing success in the field, and in particular for extending the distance betweeen most-separated finds to 10 miles or more. That's an amazing accomplishment when you consider that the thing fell just a week ago! Regarding the scrambled mass distribution, you are absolutely right -- there were multiple fragmentation events, at least three of which are visible in the video. As for the name, I would be surprised if the NomComm would have accepted the name West. As some others have noted, it would be a source of confusion in verbal communication, and in related astronomical fields it is customary to avoid choosing proper names that are a subset of existing ones (e.g. Clearwater West, Kelly West, Laundry West, Victoria West, West Hawk, West Point, etc.) Best wishes, Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] West, TX meteorite hunt, day 5 Well, back in the hotel after a long day's hunt. Our team recovered 9 meteorites today, including the one you saw in the pic of the day. We have extended the strewn field much longer today, with confirmed finds nearly 10 miles apart. All together, my team has recovered 30 meteorites. We are just starting. The distribution of these stones is interesting, we have 5 gram meteorites being recovered nearly 10 miles from first to last, usually you have normal size segregation, it seems this fall disrupted so many times, that sizes are not really where they should be. I have no idea how far the main mass went, we will only guess that the largest piece has been found when someone finds a larger piece every day. We found two broken stones today, and inside was the most amazing breccia. It reminds me of St Michel, white interior with spiderweb veins and nice darker clasts in a light cream-colored matrix. I spoke to most hunters today, and it is almost unanimous that no one wants to sell stones. I have seven myself and would not sell any of them. Too hard to find, too much walking and the money would not make much difference. I will keep a nice jar full of pristine flawless stones that have never been rained on. At least the weather looks great for the next 10 days, if not a little warm. It seems that virtually everyone who has come here has found a stone, a wonderful thing, that hunters are being rewarded for their hard work. I would not expect, at least at this point, for many stones to be offered for sale. Again, even at $50 gram or more, so far most people would not even pay expenses for the trip, as most stones are under 20 grams. I guess that about 10% are larger than that. I am sure the meteorite will be named West, Cottonwood is already a name, and I don't think this deserves to be a (b). A creek is just that, and I know doug want's it named that after the landowner's creek, but NOMCOM is not going to accept that. West, is a great name. We will see what tomorrow's hunt brings, good night to all. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West, TX meteorite hunt, day 5
In a message dated 2/23/2009 12:32:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, mojave_meteori...@cox.net writes: in related astronomical fields it is customary to avoid choosing proper names that are a subset of existing ones (e.g. Clearwater West, Kelly West, Laundry West, Victoria West, West Hawk, West Point, etc.) If it really is customary to avoid choosing proper names that are a subset of existing ones, how in the world did Clearwater West, Kelly West, Laundry West, Victoria West, West Hawk, West Point all avoid the custom of disqualification on the above merits? Steve Arnold Arkansas (in Texas at the moment) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Bakery
Well, after all my motivational speeches to family in the West area, I only hear about the kolaches/kolacky from the Czech bakery. My wifes cousin drives 100 miles out of his way to buy a few dozen whenever he has the chance but not interested in meteorites. Shrugs... _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What's in a name
Hi Steve, If it really is customary to avoid choosing proper names that are a subset of existing ones, how in the world did Clearwater West, Kelly West, Laundry West, Victoria West, West Hawk, West Point all avoid the custom of disqualification on the above merits? Ahh, but they are not subsets of one another -- they merely share parts of their names. Point would be a subset of West Point, or Hawk a subset of West Hawk. (There is no Hawk meteorite or Point meteorite). That said, I'm sure that if one digs through all the meteorite names, examples can be found that make your case, but if confusion can be avoided, why not do so? --Rob __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's in a name
Appending my own comments, one only has to search as far as the name Canyon. The naming of Canyon Diablo certainly predates the later meteorite name Canyon (Met. Bull. #37, 1966). --Rob -Original Message- From: Rob Matson [mailto:mojave_meteori...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:07 PM To: meteorh...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: What's in a name Hi Steve, If it really is customary to avoid choosing proper names that are a subset of existing ones, how in the world did Clearwater West, Kelly West, Laundry West, Victoria West, West Hawk, West Point all avoid the custom of disqualification on the above merits? Ahh, but they are not subsets of one another -- they merely share parts of their names. Point would be a subset of West Point, or Hawk a subset of West Hawk. (There is no Hawk meteorite or Point meteorite). That said, I'm sure that if one digs through all the meteorite names, examples can be found that make your case, but if confusion can be avoided, why not do so? --Rob __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
