Re: [meteorite-list] Question for type collectors

2009-04-15 Thread Michael Blood
I would,
Though, like most things, it is a personal decision
As to what constitutes a "category"  and what does not.
Best wishes, Michael


> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks 
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:14:33 -0500
> To: Meteorite List 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Question for type collectors
> 
> Hi folks!
> 
> I am not a type collector per-se, but I like to keep track of how many
> different petrologic types I have in my collection.
> 
> I have a silly question about type collecting -
> 
> Do type collectors consider each type of iron a seperate petrologic
> type?  For example, are all octahedrites considered 1 type?  Or is it
> different types for "coarsest", "coarse", "medium", "fine", etc?
> 
> Right now I have 42 petrologic types - counting ALL irons as only one
> type.  Should I go through my collection and correct that count to
> reflect the different types - IIAB, IAB, IVA, etc?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> MikeG
> 
> 
> -- 
> .
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> Member of the Meteoritical Society.
> Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
> Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for type collectors

2009-04-15 Thread Jeff Grossman
"Petrologic type" is really a term that only applies to chondrites.  It 
was popularized in the classic paper:


VAN SCHMUS W. R. and WOOD J. A. (1967) A chemical-petrologic 
classification for the chondritic meteorites. Geochimica et Cosmochimica 
Acta 31, 747-765


The term was meant to convey a sense of the degree of equilibration of 
chondrites. 

In the old days, there were only 6 defined petrologic types (1-6), 
making it easy on a collector or museum wishing to establish a reference 
collection.  But now, the scale is interpreted more continuously, with 
nearly 30 subdivisions appearing in the literature in one place or 
another (1, 2.0-2.9, 3.01-3.05, 3.10, 3.15, 3.2-2.9, 4, 5, 6), as well 
as transitional types like 1/2, 3.6/3.7 or 4/5, and breccia mixtures 
like 4-6.. 

As for nonchondritic meteorites, petrologic type is undefined.  For some 
of these, there are groups, like the groups of irons you mention, which 
are analogous to the groups of chondrites (H, L, LL, R, CV, etc.).  Some 
of these are themselves subdivided, as is the IAB complex.  For other 
achondrites, like mesosiderites, there aren't really groups defined, but 
they have been subdivided into petrographic classes and metamorphic 
grades, with designations like "B1" to show this.  HEDs and ureilites 
are really messy.


Textural terms, like the iron structural types you mention, or terms 
like "polymict," "brecciated," etc., are not really classification terms 
(in general).  These are mostly descriptive terms.  Use these to 
subdivide a collection with caution, as they may not be applied 
uniformly to all meteorites by all researchers.


Jeff



Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote:

Hi folks!

I am not a type collector per-se, but I like to keep track of how many
different petrologic types I have in my collection.

I have a silly question about type collecting -

Do type collectors consider each type of iron a seperate petrologic
type?  For example, are all octahedrites considered 1 type?  Or is it
different types for "coarsest", "coarse", "medium", "fine", etc?

Right now I have 42 petrologic types - counting ALL irons as only one
type.  Should I go through my collection and correct that count to
reflect the different types - IIAB, IAB, IVA, etc?

Thanks in advance!

MikeG


  



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Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted : Micros of the following meteorites

2009-04-15 Thread Dark Matter
Hi Mike,

Here is a link to the google books version of the Catalogue of
Meteorites. The book is/was also known as the blue book since its
first four editions had dark blue covers. This digital version will
give you some insight into the catalogue's contents.

http://books.google.com/books?id=mkdHJR35Q_8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=catologue+of+meteorites&ei=583lSZm2KoHCkAS1zrCOCQ

Best,

Martin
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for type collectors

2009-04-15 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Jeff and Michael,

Thank you for the input.  I think what I will do is subdivide my type
list into two arbitrary categories - irons and everything else.  So I
will treat irons seperately.  I will maintain my "petrologic type"
count for stony, stony-iron, and everything else that doesn't fall
under "irons".

I asked all of this because I like to have a record of the various
aspects of my collection - just in case someone asks me questions like
- "How many lunars do you have?" or "How many types do you have?", or
"How many witnessed falls?" , etc.

Plus I am a statistics geek and I like to have everything in my
collection accounted for and broken down to the Nth degree. ;)

I have yet to break down my collection by country - that will come
tonight.  I need to do it now while my collection size is still
manageable.

Best regards,

MikeG


Here are some of the revised stats now -

29 witnessed falls, 55 finds - 84 total localities

29 witnessed falls
14 hammer falls (3 hammer stones)

42 petrologic types
  5 iron types - IAB-MG, IIIAB, IVA, IAB-ung, unclassified (Las Palmas)

7 continents
18 USA falls and finds
10 US states - Alabama, Arizona, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa,
Kansas, Louisiana, New York, Texas
28 NWA finds

7 planetaries (3 Lunars, 4 Martians, 8 Vestans)

47 specimens  <1 gram
27 specimens  1-9 grams
12 specimens  10-99 grams
2 specimens >100 grams


.

On 4/15/09, Jeff Grossman  wrote:
> "Petrologic type" is really a term that only applies to chondrites.  It
> was popularized in the classic paper:
>
> VAN SCHMUS W. R. and WOOD J. A. (1967) A chemical-petrologic
> classification for the chondritic meteorites. Geochimica et Cosmochimica
> Acta 31, 747-765
>
> The term was meant to convey a sense of the degree of equilibration of
> chondrites.
>
> In the old days, there were only 6 defined petrologic types (1-6),
> making it easy on a collector or museum wishing to establish a reference
> collection.  But now, the scale is interpreted more continuously, with
> nearly 30 subdivisions appearing in the literature in one place or
> another (1, 2.0-2.9, 3.01-3.05, 3.10, 3.15, 3.2-2.9, 4, 5, 6), as well
> as transitional types like 1/2, 3.6/3.7 or 4/5, and breccia mixtures
> like 4-6..
>
> As for nonchondritic meteorites, petrologic type is undefined.  For some
> of these, there are groups, like the groups of irons you mention, which
> are analogous to the groups of chondrites (H, L, LL, R, CV, etc.).  Some
> of these are themselves subdivided, as is the IAB complex.  For other
> achondrites, like mesosiderites, there aren't really groups defined, but
> they have been subdivided into petrographic classes and metamorphic
> grades, with designations like "B1" to show this.  HEDs and ureilites
> are really messy.
>
> Textural terms, like the iron structural types you mention, or terms
> like "polymict," "brecciated," etc., are not really classification terms
> (in general).  These are mostly descriptive terms.  Use these to
> subdivide a collection with caution, as they may not be applied
> uniformly to all meteorites by all researchers.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote:
>> Hi folks!
>>
>> I am not a type collector per-se, but I like to keep track of how many
>> different petrologic types I have in my collection.
>>
>> I have a silly question about type collecting -
>>
>> Do type collectors consider each type of iron a seperate petrologic
>> type?  For example, are all octahedrites considered 1 type?  Or is it
>> different types for "coarsest", "coarse", "medium", "fine", etc?
>>
>> Right now I have 42 petrologic types - counting ALL irons as only one
>> type.  Should I go through my collection and correct that count to
>> reflect the different types - IIAB, IAB, IVA, etc?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> MikeG
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman   phone: (703) 648-6184
> US Geological Survey  fax:   (703) 648-6383
> 954 National Center
> Reston, VA 20192, USA
>
>
>


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Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for type collectors

2009-04-15 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:22:04 -0500, you wrote:


>Thank you for the input.  I think what I will do is subdivide my type
>list into two arbitrary categories - irons and everything else.  

I think the most meaningful distinction is classifying them by parent bodies--
and the various irons represent approx. one oodle of parent bodies (an "oodle"
is a unit of measure that falls somewhat short of a "sh*tload".)
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[meteorite-list] 3rd request for mineral ID

2009-04-15 Thread cdtucson
John Kashuba was kind enough to make this video. It is of a mineral changing 
from crossed polars to pain light. Can someone please tell me what the mineral 
is Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaowrlJFai4


Carl Esparza
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for type collectors

2009-04-15 Thread Jerry A. Wallace

Thanks Darren,

ROTFLMAO! 


Jerry


Darren Garrison wrote:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:22:04 -0500, you wrote:


  

Thank you for the input.  I think what I will do is subdivide my type
list into two arbitrary categories - irons and everything else.  



I think the most meaningful distinction is classifying them by parent bodies--
and the various irons represent approx. one oodle of parent bodies (an "oodle"
is a unit of measure that falls somewhat short of a "sh*tload".)
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[meteorite-list] AD: Auctions Ending In A Few Minutes...

2009-04-15 Thread michael cottingham

Hello,

I have listed some spectacular deals sprinkled throughout ebay...  
Check it out-


http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history

Best Wishes and Thanks

Michael Cottingham
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Re: [meteorite-list] 3rd request for mineral ID

2009-04-15 Thread Ted Bunch
Ok, so -

What is the rock type, terrestrial, meteorite?
Any idea of the petrologic provenance?
What are the other co-existing minerals/phases?
The section is a tad thick, thus the birefringence is misleading.
 Do some homework here--

Ted


On 4/15/09 1:18 PM, "cdtuc...@cox.net"  wrote:

> John Kashuba was kind enough to make this video. It is of a mineral changing
> from crossed polars to pain light. Can someone please tell me what the mineral
> is Thank you.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaowrlJFai4
> 
> 
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[meteorite-list] [AD] Rarest of the rare........4 Arctic meteorites !!

2009-04-15 Thread Jan Bartels

Listoids,

Offers on our Claxton slice on Ebay were a laugh...
New Orleansno one interested at all...

So okay..when you need to finance other expensive hobbies you need to do 
something crazy sometimes..


Offering 4 Antarctica meteorites in one sale 

Lazarev Iron etched slice with some crust on the edge: 25 x 13 x 4 mm. 7,14 
grams with copy of BMNH label !!!


Mount Baldr: Chondrite H6. Found during 1976 expedition. Small fragment 6 x 
5 x 3 mm. I don't know the weight, my weighing scale is not qualiified to 
weigh it so it's below one gram.


Thiel Mountains: Pallasite 2,2 grams slice.

Allan Hills 76009 L6 Chondrite: 13,4 grams fragment.

Make me an offer.
NO TRADES
No seperate sales either. All 4 in one sale.

And Oh yes.they go expensive or won't go at all. Do your homework and 
find out what they might be worth.


Pictures on request.

Best,
Jan Bartels,
IMCA# 9833 


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[meteorite-list] Mars Spacecraft Teams on Alert for Dust-Storm Season

2009-04-15 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-067  

Mars Spacecraft Teams on Alert for Dust-Storm Season
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
April 15, 2009

PASADENA, Calif. -- Heading into a period of the Martian year prone to
major dust storms, the team operating NASA's twin Mars rovers is taking
advantage of eye-in-the-sky weather reports.

On April 21, Mars will be at the closest point to the sun in the
planet's 23-month, elliptical orbit. One month later, the planet's
equinox will mark the start of summer in Mars' southern hemisphere. This
atmospheric-warming combination makes the coming weeks the most likely
time of the Martian year for dust storms severe enough to minimize
activities of the rovers.

"Since the rovers are solar powered, the dust in the atmosphere is
extremely important to us," said Bill Nelson of NASA's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., chief of the engineering team for Spirit
and Opportunity.

Unexplained computer reboots by Spirit in the past week are not related
to dust's effects on the rover's power supply, but the dust-storm season
remains a concern. Spirit received commands Tuesday to transmit more
engineering data in coming days to aid in diagnosis of the reboots.

After months of relatively clear air, increased haze in March reduced
Spirit's daily energy supply by about 20 percent and Opportunity's by
about 30 percent. Widespread haze resulted from a regional storm that
made skies far south of the rovers very dusty. Conditions at the rovers'
sites remained much milder than the worst they have endured. In July
2007, nearly one Martian year ago, airborne dust blocked more than 99
percent of the direct sunlight at each rover's site.

The rovers point cameras toward the sun to check the clarity of the
atmosphere virtually every day. These measurements let the planning team
estimate how much energy the rovers will have available on the following
day. Observations of changes in the Martian atmosphere by NASA's Mars
Reconnaissance Orbiter, which reached Mars in 2006, and NASA's Mars
Odyssey, which reached Mars in 2001, are available to supplement the
rover's own skywatch.

The Mars Color Imager camera on Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter sees the
entire planet every day at resolution comparable to weather satellites
around Earth.

"We can identify where dust is rising into the atmosphere and where it
is moving from day to day," said Michael Malin of Malin Space Science
Systems, San Diego, principal investigator for Mars Color Imager. "Our
historical baseline of observing Martian weather, including data from
the Mars Global Surveyor mission from 1998 to 2007, helps us know what
to expect. Weather on Mars is more repetitive from year to year than
weather on Earth. Global dust events do not occur every Mars year, but
if they do occur, they are at this time of year."

Two other instruments -- the Thermal Emission Imaging System on Mars
Odyssey and the Mars Climate Sounder on Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter --
monitor changes in airborne dust or dust-related temperatures in Mars'
upper atmosphere. Orbiters also aid surface missions with radio relays,
imaging to aid drive plans, and studies of possible future landing sites.

When orbital observations indicate a dust-raising storm is approaching a
rover, the rover team can take steps to conserve energy. For example,
the team can reduce the length of time the rover will be active or can
shorten or delete some communication events.

In recent weeks, frequent weather reports from Bruce Cantor of Malin's
Mars Color Imager team let the rover team know that the March increase
in haziness was not the front edge of a bad storm. "Bruce's weather
reports have let us be more aggressive about using the rovers," said
Mark Lemmon, a rover-team atmospheric scientist at Texas A&M University,
College Station. "There have been fewer false alarms. Earlier in the
mission, we backed off a lot on operations whenever we saw a small
increase in dust. Now, we have enough information to know whether
there's really a significant dust storm headed our way."

At other times, the weather reports prompt quick precautionary actions.
On Saturday, Nov. 8, 2008, the rover team received word from Cantor of a
dust storm nearing Spirit. The team deleted a communication session that
Sunday and sent a minimal-activity set of commands that Monday. Without
those responses, Spirit would likely have depleted its batteries to a
dangerous level.

Winds that can lift dust into the air can also blow dust off the rovers'
solar panels. The five-year-old rover missions, originally planned to
last for three months, would have ended long ago if beneficial winds
didn't occasionally remove some of the dust that accumulates on the
panels. A cleaning event in early April aided Opportunity's power
output, and Spirit got two minor cleanings in February, but the last
major cleaning for Spirit was nearly a full Martian year ago.

Nelson said, "We're all hoping we'll get another good cleaning."

JPL, a

[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - April 15, 2009

2009-04-15 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
April 15, 2009

o Escarpment with Possible Clays
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010460_2055 

o Sample of Crater Central Peak in Nili Fossae
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010457_2070

o Putative Volcanic Cones in Chasma Boreale
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010408_2615

o Sample of North Polar Gypsum Dunes
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010400_2620

o Flood Carved Rock 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_012270_2035

o Light-Toned Layered Deposits on Southern Mid-Latitude Crater Floor
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_011310_1395


All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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[meteorite-list] FREE LL4 S3 W1 material - Study only

2009-04-15 Thread star_wars_collector

Hi to all, hope everyone had a great day!

Anthony and I finished all cutting on the NWA LL4 S3 W1 meteorite that will be 
done, What is left are several very nice slices and the Main Mass, a 191.85g 
endcut.
This material will be submitted for an official name soon.

I have some more cutting "scraps" that I would like to offer forĀ  
educational/scientific study of this material.

The material would be great for XRD and perhaps thin sections of smaller size.

I will offer free samples to the first 5 places that would like to study this 
very nice looking meteorite that has bleached and armored chondrules.

This is the same as the last I offered for research/study, everyone who 
contacted me about the previous offer, your samples have been mailed.

Greg C.

Attached is a picture of the main mass, I will be placing an AD soon for the 
slices that are available for those interested in purchasing a sample.

Main Mass of NWA  LL4 S3 W1
Cut Surface
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1048.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1046.jpg

Close ups of some nice Chondrules
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1054.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1055-1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1070.jpg







  

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[meteorite-list] AD Tektite Rizalite HALF KILO Monster on eBay starts at $0.99

2009-04-15 Thread info
Hello listees,

I just listed a Huge Monster sized Rizalite with no chips, weighing in at
529 grams on eBay with a starting price of $0.99 and no reserve.  Please
have a look.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Desmond Leong
IMCA #2254
http://www.TektiteInc.com
http://stores.ebay.com/Tektite-Inc
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtektiteinc-dot-com


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[meteorite-list] PDF File of Dissertation About Shock Metamorphism at Meteor Crater Available Online

2009-04-15 Thread Paul

Dear Friends,

A PhD dissertation about the shock metamorphism of Coconino 
Sandstone at Meteor Crater can be downloaded as a PDF file.

It is;

Kieffer, Susan W., 1970, I. Shock metamorphism of the Coconino 
sandstone at Meteor Crater, Arizona. II. The specific heat of 
solids of geophysical interest. Unpublished PhD dissertation,
California Institute of technology, Pasadena, California.

The abstract and link to PDf file can be found at:

http://etd.caltech.edu/etd/available/etd-06232004-134838/

The 10.5 MB PDF file can downloaded directly from:

http://etd.caltech.edu/etd/available/etd-06232004-134838/unrestricted/Kieffer_sw_1971.pdf

Yours,

Paul H.


  
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[meteorite-list] new Utah fall?

2009-04-15 Thread Linton Rohr

Greetings listees,
I have purchased some land in Utah, and am making plans to move there, and 
therefore have developed an interest in obtaining some Utah meteorites. (As 
good an excuse as any, right?) There are 19 meteorites listed in the 
Bulletin, only 6 of which have TKW's exceeding 1kg. I received search 
results from E-Bay today fitting that description, but I am highly skeptical 
of the ad. Check it out:

http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyEbay&gbh=1
First of all, the account of the fall sounds a bit dubious in spots. And no 
photos are available, due to "camera problems". The recovered specimen had a 
glow the size of a golf ball, but is only described as being 9mm. Is that 
the longest dimension? No weight given. The other, unrecovered one, appeared 
to be the size of a basketball. And he'll lead us right to the search area. 
All this for only $1600. Small unphotographed specimen of undisclosed weight 
included. ;^) Any takers? By the way, I inquired, seeking more info and 
evidence, but have had no reply at this point.
I've only been collecting 2 or 3 years, but I haven't seen an ad quite like 
this until now. Any thoughts from those of you more experienced?

Thank you for your input.
Linton Rohr 


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Re: [meteorite-list] new Utah fall?

2009-04-15 Thread michael cottingham

NOT a meteorite and author seems a little out of touch with reality...

Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Linton Rohr wrote:


Greetings listees,
I have purchased some land in Utah, and am making plans to move  
there, and therefore have developed an interest in obtaining some  
Utah meteorites. (As good an excuse as any, right?) There are 19  
meteorites listed in the Bulletin, only 6 of which have TKW's  
exceeding 1kg. I received search results from E-Bay today fitting  
that description, but I am highly skeptical of the ad. Check it out:

http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MyEbay&gbh=1
First of all, the account of the fall sounds a bit dubious in spots.  
And no photos are available, due to "camera problems". The recovered  
specimen had a glow the size of a golf ball, but is only described  
as being 9mm. Is that the longest dimension? No weight given. The  
other, unrecovered one, appeared to be the size of a basketball. And  
he'll lead us right to the search area. All this for only $1600.  
Small unphotographed specimen of undisclosed weight included. ;^)  
Any takers? By the way, I inquired, seeking more info and evidence,  
but have had no reply at this point.
I've only been collecting 2 or 3 years, but I haven't seen an ad  
quite like this until now. Any thoughts from those of you more  
experienced?

Thank you for your input.
Linton Rohr
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Re: [meteorite-list] new Utah fall?

2009-04-15 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:27:10 -0700, you wrote:

>First of all, the account of the fall sounds a bit dubious in spots. 

This auction is a bit dubious in the same way that the Tasmanian Devil is a bit
peckish.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310135588386

I'm not only offering this meteorite I saw with a friend, travel up to fourteen
miles before it hit the ground in front of our vision off to the right of the
road in front of my vehicle at night. But as well I will lead a professional
collector to another area in which I had seen one fall and hit behind one of my
favorite fishing holes at daylight.

If winner helps me find it, I will allow them to keep it and do whatever they
want with the new find and along with the one I'm offering here.

The one that fell behind my fun fishing area was glowing a bright green with a
white tail in where the light green object appeared to be a glow at the size of
a basket ball.

Winner will also need to travel up to my area and then another twenty-five miles
out and then back.

I've looked for serious collectors around my hometown and had not found one
interested.

It's your call meteor collectors!! And winner will be in for some other shocking
surprise after we meet and if they are able to find this one.

Every metal detector that someone loaned to me had failed and appeared to not
work as well as I wished.

The one meteor I did retrieve is under 9mm in length and its glow was a bright
white color with an apparent size for glow being close to the size of a golf
ball. We had nearly traveled six miles before it crossed in front of our path
and hit the ground to the right side of the paved road about fifteen feet away.
"If I had been going any faster than 60 mph I would of been hit in the head. So
now you know what its projectory was at as it traveled. We had first spotted it
approximately fourteen miles away, traveled a little while, and it had seemed it
was taking its time until the surprising moment."

I will be able to also show winner a head of time where the meteor hit nearest
to my fishing hole by satellite and then I will lead them out to the area and
help them navigate the search. 

Winner needs to be a reliable professional and detectors have to be able to
detect the meteor through perhaps some mineralized ground up to two feet deep or
more.

I have used detectors most of all my life and within this area there is no
acceptions. The detectors lent to me were more powerful but appeared to be well
used and had problems.

Sincerely' the Fulgurite Man of Utah

Added on April 15th: "I just recently found out where another one came in and
fell due to two other fellows that don't even know each other yet. They both saw
it fly pass them at the exact timing. And I retrieved their stories at two
different dates. So I know where it hit. The second fellow was just listening to
my story about my story here last night, and he opened up about the same one the
other friend told me about happening in the same location. So I know its fact!
Though this area it fell into, isn't "no-dreamboat" by satellite. 

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Re: [meteorite-list] new Utah fall?

2009-04-15 Thread Darren Garrison
Uh, yeah, this guy is deeply and profoundly insane.  A sampling of his auctions;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310131949226

MANY YEARS AGO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARILY HAPPENED TO ME IN A SMALL ROOM IN WHERE
I KNEW ONLY ONE THING COULD OF MOVED SEVERAL ITEMS OTHER THAN MYSELF.

FOR YEARS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE OF WHAT I CAN SEE AND I WOULD ASK THEM
THE SAME. AND THEY WOULD SAY THEY JUST COULDN'T DO IT!

I'VE SEEN THOUSANDS OF GLOWING - MOVING ORBS AND OTHER STRANGE ENTITIES AND
UNUSUAL SHAPES TO JUST THEIR PUPILS THAT ONCE BELONGED TO EYEBALLS.

I'VE HAD ENCOUNTERS LIKE MANY OTHERS, BUT NEVER COULD RECEIVE THE ANSWERS I KNOW
OF TODAY - THANKS TO THEM!

JUST LAST NIGHT ON MAR 26TH, I WOULD RECEIVE ANOTHER ENCOUNTER WHERE THEY WOULD
EXPLAIN HOW DNA COULD NEVER BE MATCHED UP TO ANY ONE PERSON. AND THEY PROVED IT
TO ME!

THOUGH ONLY BY MEETING AND BY CATEGORY PHENOMENON COULD I THEORIZE THE FACTS,
AND I HAVE ON PAPER.

WINNER WILL NOT ONLY RECEIVE THESE FACTS IN A LIST OF CATEGORIES BUT AS WELL
THEY WILL RECEIVE AN ORIGINAL PRODUCTION ON AUDIOTAPE CASSETTE.

AND WINNER WILL RECEIVE A WHIRLWIND RIDER THAT WILL CARRY MESSAGES BY AIR TO
LOVED ONES. IF IT WEREN'T FOR SOME INTERESTING NEW ADRIFT FRIENDS THIS CARRIER
PLATE WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. THE IMAGE YOU SEE IS OF ONE OF THEM.

"WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM TO GETTING THEM TO LEAVE
YOU ALONE?  

*XPERIENCE GHOSTS*

WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY DO NOT LIKE LOUD SOUNDS, TELEVISION, RADIOS, AND WHY WE
CANNOT SEE & HEAR THEM CLEARLY IN PERSON?

ONE EARLY EVENING LAST SUMMER I SAW A FEW PLAYING IN A PUDDLE OF WATER AND MANY
INDIVIDUALS WERE AROUND CLOSE BYE. "BUT DID THEY SEE WHAT I SAW?

THEY ARE AMONGST US! WANT THE PROOF?

FOUR WEEKS AGO I DROPPED A LITTLE BIT OF BAKING SODA IN A FULL SINK OF WATER

THE FOLLOWING DAY I HAD FOUND A SIGN PRODUCED BY ONE OF THEIR FINGERS.

DID YOU KNOW THAT SOME HOMES CANNOT ALLOW THEM TO MOVE OBJECTS EASILY DUE TO
WHAT HOUSES ARE MADE OF?

HAVE YOU HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF GHOSTS LAYING DOWN ON TOP OF YOU OR THEM MAKING
YOU FEEL YOUR OWN WARM BREATH BY IT BLOWING BACK INTO YOUR FACE AS THEY WERE
KISSING YOU?

DID YOU KNOW LIVE ANIMALS CAN SEE THEM?

IF YOU WANT THE FACTS' THIS IS WHERE TO GET THEM.

DID YOU KNOW THAT THE VERY GENES THAT MAKE UP YOUR DNA IS THE SAME GENES THAT
KEEP THEM AFLOAT AND WILL BLIND A PHYSICIAN IF THEY WERE TO LOOK UPON THESE SORT
OF GENES BY MICROSCOPE?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310131839354

IS MUCH RARER THAN AMERICA'S PRODUCTION OF TURQUOISE, PLUME, & TUBE AGATE 

Up for auction is an Extremely Rare Hieroglyphic - Tiffany Bertrandite Opal Cab 

JUST ONLY THE FINEST SPECIMENS ARE UNIQUE AND SOME STONES MAY COME OUT LOOKING
SIMILAR IN CONTRASTS AND DETAILED WITH INTRICATE SPIDER-WEBBING, PLUMING PLUMES
OF FIBROUS MIX, INTRICATE CAVITIES, WITH TRANSPARENCY, MARMALADE CHECKERED
WEAVING WITH CRACKLE EGGSHELL APPEARANCE LIKE THIS ONE SHOWS.

"SO FAR ONLY MOSTLY WEALTHY PURCHASES HAVE BEEN MADE, AND ONLY IN NICER
SPECIMENS - LIKE THE ONE I'M OFFERING HERE THROUGHOUT THE GLOBE. 

THROUGH MY STUDY OF VOLCANIC GASES AND DUGWAY GEODES (IN THE PAST) AND HOW THEY
WERE FORMED I COME TO DISCOVER WITHIN THE POCKET AND VEINS BERTRANDITE NODULES
WERE FOUND IN. THAT THEY WERE PRODUCED CLOSER TO AN EMBRYONIC WAY BY VOLCANIC
AND PERHAPS WITH THE HELP OF A METEOR IMPACT- SOMETHING LIKE WITH THE CREATION &
BIRTH OF STARS IN OUTER GALAXIES.

EXPLOSIONS AND MIXING OF CHEMICAL & GASES SWIRLED AROUND IN THE MIXTURE WHILE
MANGANESE WOULD BLEED INTO THE COMPOUND MIXTURE ALONG WITH A SECRETING PURPLISH
FLUORITE FLUID CONTENT.

WHILE QUITE A FEW ARE FOUND WITH FLUORITE CRYSTALLIZED CAVITIES, HOLLOW-LOOKING
& TRANSPARENT CRYSTALIZED HONEYCOMBS, SOME ARE FOUND WITH FLUOR SPAR MIXED WITH
HEMATITE, PROBERTITE, QUARTZ SILICACY & DRUSIE'S, IRON, COPPER, AND THE RED
PATINA FROM BERYLLIUM, AND LEACHING MANGANESE.

I'VE SEEN SOME INTRICATE ELABORATE & EXOTIC PIECES THAT ARE BEYOND WHAT ONLY A
HANDFUL OF FINE SPECIMENS REVEAL. AND WITH THE HIEROGLYPHIC LOOKS THIS APPEARS
TO HAVE THE BEST ANCIENT LOOKING INSCRIBING I'VE SEEN ON MOST OF THESE RARER
SORT!



WEIGHT: 38.8 GRAMS - 194KTS

FREE FORM DIMENSIONS: 66MM LONG BY 41MM WIDE BY 10CM DEEP

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"WINNING BIDDER WILL ALSO RECEIVE MINERAL & FOSSIL GIFTS FROM AROUND UTAH"

JUST LOOK AT MY COMMENTS FOR CONFIDENCE

APPEARANCE WITHIN THE CONTRASTS OF THE ONE I'M OFFERING LOOKS TO BE SIMILAR TO
UTAH'S HIEROGLYPHIC STONE. WITH IT SHOWING SIGNS OF SPIRITUALISM WITH ONE IMAGE
REFERRING TO THE THUNDERBIRD IN THE SHAPE OF A MAN DOING A RAIN DANCE, A
CREATURE OF THE PAST, THE LETTERS OF H & S, A SERPENT SWIMMING IN CIRCLES, AND A
SPIRIT OF A DOG CHASING A FROG.

TO ALSO GIVING OFF A SIMILARITY TO CHINESE WRITING AND DETAILING SUNBURSTS OF
THE ANOMALY FOUND WITHIN MOST OF UTAH'S BEAUTIFUL CANYONS, LIKE WITHIN ESCALANTE
AND WITH ESCALANTE'S ORANGE TO YELL

Re: [meteorite-list] new Utah fall?

2009-04-15 Thread bill kies

That's our old friend golfyx. He's the creator of the "Galaxy Meteorite. 
Definitely mad as the proverbial hatter.
 
Bill



> From: cyna...@charter.net
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:01:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new Utah fall?
>
> Uh, yeah, this guy is deeply and profoundly insane. A sampling of his 
> auctions;
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310131949226
>
> MANY YEARS AGO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARILY HAPPENED TO ME IN A SMALL ROOM IN 
> WHERE
> I KNEW ONLY ONE THING COULD OF MOVED SEVERAL ITEMS OTHER THAN MYSELF.
>
> FOR YEARS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE OF WHAT I CAN SEE AND I WOULD ASK 
> THEM
> THE SAME. AND THEY WOULD SAY THEY JUST COULDN'T DO IT!
>
> I'VE SEEN THOUSANDS OF GLOWING - MOVING ORBS AND OTHER STRANGE ENTITIES AND
> UNUSUAL SHAPES TO JUST THEIR PUPILS THAT ONCE BELONGED TO EYEBALLS.
>
> I'VE HAD ENCOUNTERS LIKE MANY OTHERS, BUT NEVER COULD RECEIVE THE ANSWERS I 
> KNOW
> OF TODAY - THANKS TO THEM!
>
> JUST LAST NIGHT ON MAR 26TH, I WOULD RECEIVE ANOTHER ENCOUNTER WHERE THEY 
> WOULD
> EXPLAIN HOW DNA COULD NEVER BE MATCHED UP TO ANY ONE PERSON. AND THEY PROVED 
> IT
> TO ME!
>
> THOUGH ONLY BY MEETING AND BY CATEGORY PHENOMENON COULD I THEORIZE THE FACTS,
> AND I HAVE ON PAPER.
>
> WINNER WILL NOT ONLY RECEIVE THESE FACTS IN A LIST OF CATEGORIES BUT AS WELL
> THEY WILL RECEIVE AN ORIGINAL PRODUCTION ON AUDIOTAPE CASSETTE.
>
> AND WINNER WILL RECEIVE A WHIRLWIND RIDER THAT WILL CARRY MESSAGES BY AIR TO
> LOVED ONES. IF IT WEREN'T FOR SOME INTERESTING NEW ADRIFT FRIENDS THIS CARRIER
> PLATE WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. THE IMAGE YOU SEE IS OF ONE OF THEM.
>
> "WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM TO GETTING THEM TO LEAVE
> YOU ALONE?
>
> *XPERIENCE GHOSTS*
>
> WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY DO NOT LIKE LOUD SOUNDS, TELEVISION, RADIOS, AND WHY WE
> CANNOT SEE & HEAR THEM CLEARLY IN PERSON?
>
> ONE EARLY EVENING LAST SUMMER I SAW A FEW PLAYING IN A PUDDLE OF WATER AND 
> MANY
> INDIVIDUALS WERE AROUND CLOSE BYE. "BUT DID THEY SEE WHAT I SAW?
>
> THEY ARE AMONGST US! WANT THE PROOF?
>
> FOUR WEEKS AGO I DROPPED A LITTLE BIT OF BAKING SODA IN A FULL SINK OF WATER
>
> THE FOLLOWING DAY I HAD FOUND A SIGN PRODUCED BY ONE OF THEIR FINGERS.
>
> DID YOU KNOW THAT SOME HOMES CANNOT ALLOW THEM TO MOVE OBJECTS EASILY DUE TO
> WHAT HOUSES ARE MADE OF?
>
> HAVE YOU HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF GHOSTS LAYING DOWN ON TOP OF YOU OR THEM MAKING
> YOU FEEL YOUR OWN WARM BREATH BY IT BLOWING BACK INTO YOUR FACE AS THEY WERE
> KISSING YOU?
>
> DID YOU KNOW LIVE ANIMALS CAN SEE THEM?
>
> IF YOU WANT THE FACTS' THIS IS WHERE TO GET THEM.
>
> DID YOU KNOW THAT THE VERY GENES THAT MAKE UP YOUR DNA IS THE SAME GENES THAT
> KEEP THEM AFLOAT AND WILL BLIND A PHYSICIAN IF THEY WERE TO LOOK UPON THESE 
> SORT
> OF GENES BY MICROSCOPE?
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310131839354
>
> IS MUCH RARER THAN AMERICA'S PRODUCTION OF TURQUOISE, PLUME, & TUBE AGATE
>
> Up for auction is an Extremely Rare Hieroglyphic - Tiffany Bertrandite Opal 
> Cab
>
> JUST ONLY THE FINEST SPECIMENS ARE UNIQUE AND SOME STONES MAY COME OUT LOOKING
> SIMILAR IN CONTRASTS AND DETAILED WITH INTRICATE SPIDER-WEBBING, PLUMING 
> PLUMES
> OF FIBROUS MIX, INTRICATE CAVITIES, WITH TRANSPARENCY, MARMALADE CHECKERED
> WEAVING WITH CRACKLE EGGSHELL APPEARANCE LIKE THIS ONE SHOWS.
>
> "SO FAR ONLY MOSTLY WEALTHY PURCHASES HAVE BEEN MADE, AND ONLY IN NICER
> SPECIMENS - LIKE THE ONE I'M OFFERING HERE THROUGHOUT THE GLOBE.
>
> THROUGH MY STUDY OF VOLCANIC GASES AND DUGWAY GEODES (IN THE PAST) AND HOW 
> THEY
> WERE FORMED I COME TO DISCOVER WITHIN THE POCKET AND VEINS BERTRANDITE NODULES
> WERE FOUND IN. THAT THEY WERE PRODUCED CLOSER TO AN EMBRYONIC WAY BY VOLCANIC
> AND PERHAPS WITH THE HELP OF A METEOR IMPACT- SOMETHING LIKE WITH THE 
> CREATION &
> BIRTH OF STARS IN OUTER GALAXIES.
>
> EXPLOSIONS AND MIXING OF CHEMICAL & GASES SWIRLED AROUND IN THE MIXTURE WHILE
> MANGANESE WOULD BLEED INTO THE COMPOUND MIXTURE ALONG WITH A SECRETING 
> PURPLISH
> FLUORITE FLUID CONTENT.
>
> WHILE QUITE A FEW ARE FOUND WITH FLUORITE CRYSTALLIZED CAVITIES, 
> HOLLOW-LOOKING
> & TRANSPARENT CRYSTALIZED HONEYCOMBS, SOME ARE FOUND WITH FLUOR SPAR MIXED 
> WITH
> HEMATITE, PROBERTITE, QUARTZ SILICACY & DRUSIE'S, IRON, COPPER, AND THE RED
> PATINA FROM BERYLLIUM, AND LEACHING MANGANESE.
>
> I'VE SEEN SOME INTRICATE ELABORATE & EXOTIC PIECES THAT ARE BEYOND WHAT ONLY A
> HANDFUL OF FINE SPECIMENS REVEAL. AND WITH THE HIEROGLYPHIC LOOKS THIS APPEARS
> TO HAVE THE BEST ANCIENT LOOKING INSCRIBING I'VE SEEN ON MOST OF THESE RARER
> SORT!
>
> 
>
> WEIGHT: 38.8 GRAMS - 194KTS
>
> FREE FORM DIMENSIONS: 66MM LONG BY 41MM WIDE BY 10CM DEEP
>
> _
>
> "WINNING BIDDER WILL ALSO RECEIVE MINERAL & FOSSIL GIFTS FROM AROUND UTAH"
>
> JUST LOOK AT MY COMMENTS FOR CONFIDENC

[meteorite-list] AD - Nice LL4 S3 W1 Chondrite slices available

2009-04-15 Thread Greg Catterton

I have listed some nice 2mm slices of the new LL4 S3 W1 that has been tested by 
Anthony Love at Appalachain State on ebay.
I also have some others available off ebay for $1 per gram less then the ebay 
listings (due to high ebay final value fees) I am asking $4 per gram off ebay, 
$5 from ebay.

You can view the listing here:
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/star_wars_coiiector

Or email me for pictures of the other samples available.
Weight of the slices are from 3.5g - 18.45g

This is some really nice material that has not only bleached chondrules but 
also armored chondrules.

most of the slices have fusion crust.

Greg C.


  

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