Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
Thieves.I hate them! From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:30:00 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks http://gizmodo.com/5242736/how-an-intern-stole-nasas-moon-rocks How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks By Carmel Hagen, 4:00 PM on Wed May 6 2009 In 2002, rogue NASA interns stole millions of dollars in moon rocks. This is the untold story of how they did it. Building 31 North's white halls are empty, because it is the middle of the night. NASA interns Thad Roberts and Tiffany duck inside a bathroom, and tear off their clothing. Then they change into the contents of their duffel bags—2mm thick neoprene bodysuits. Like in a bad movie, the suits will help Thad and Tiffany avoid heat sensors armed to feel out threatening climate changes inside a vault. The adrenaline, their attraction, the smell of rubber suits and the fear of failure is almost overwhelming. After pulling on the thermally shielded gear, Tiffany and Thad step back into the corridor, moving toward the turnstile lock that guards their target: NASA's prized stash of moon rocks. Building 31 North, which sits on the grounds of Houston's Johnson Space Center, is where NASA keeps all 600 pounds of the moon rocks it has secured. They are the sole property of the government, collected over six lunar missions and protected with the dramatic intensity of national treasures. Building 31 North is one of the few buildings on earth constructed under Class 100 standards—it is a structure that can withstand 1000 years of water submersion, among other durability metrics that should not be tested this side of Armageddon. Breaking into it is designed to be impossible for normal people. But not harder than building a shuttle, or figuring out how to put a rover on Mars. The agency hires people with the ability to find solutions for intimidatingly large problems exactly like this one. In this regard, Roberts was your typical NASA intern. The 25-year-old was pursuing multiple degrees in Physics, Geology and Anthropology. But while Thad was school smart, he also has an almost unquencheable adrenaline-seeking side, and was consumed with a strange Excel spreadsheet of personal goals that read like he was trying to prove himself to Evel Knievel and a rocket scientist at the same time: Experience zero gravity, check; experience severe dehydration, check; find dinosaur tracks, no problem. The list was long, and as he checked off one after another, maybe Thad's ego began to believe anything was possible. But Thad wasn't in this alone. He was on his way to a divorce fueled by an affair he was having with fellow intern Tiffany Fowler. Tiffany was equally dynamic—a firecracker and former cheerleader who spoke French in bed and conducted stem cell research on NASA's behalf. Thad wanted her, so when Tiffany begged to hear his idea to liberate the moon rocks, he told her. And when she wanted to follow through with the plan, the romantic and exciting thing was to start hatching a plan as if it were yet another science problem at work. One that would could make them very rich, or ruin their lives. Soon one more curious co-op, the 19-year-old Shae Saur, had joined in on the heist. After months of preparation, they found themselves embarking on their unauthorized mission, driving for Building 31 North after dark with intel on every security device—and plans to get around them. When it comes to Thad's story, it is worth noting several things. I was not allowed to quote him directly from my interviews, and the others involved in the crime declined to verify his facts. This is his story as he told it to me. And in the time since, he's written a novel about the heist, which was based on truth, but it's embellished. So, take the tale for what it's worth. The Space Center had been under 24-hour supervision since the 9/11 attacks, but the guards planted at each entryway are not in the habit of stopping NASA's carefully selected interns—who are always working—from entering after hours. The guard said, You get a new car? Thad replied, No, sir. Borrowed it to help a friend move. So with a wave of a hand, Shae, Tiffany and Thad were granted access. Thad guided the Jeep Cherokee on the short journey past Rocket Park—an open sky cemetery of former rockets and spacecraft—then parked near the entryway of Building 31. Once they were in range, the three set about linking and looping the cameras inside Building 31, a system that they had previously taped between shifts of employees responsible for watching the cameras. It is unknown how Thad and company received the intel required to do such a thing, even if the idea itself is straight out of a heist flick. But Shae stayed in the car to monitor the rewired cameras, to warn Tiffany and Thad if
Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
Was that article an exercise in style? At least...due to the efforts of a few enthusiasts on the globe, everyone can have now his piece of Moon Rock at a price of a paperback :-) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Pete Pete Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 12:58 An: cyna...@charter.net; meteoritelist meteoritelist Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Thieves.I hate them! From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:30:00 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks http://gizmodo.com/5242736/how-an-intern-stole-nasas-moon-rocks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
Is the story true? I read it and it sounds like pop-culture fiction. I've never heard anything about this elsewhere. If it's true, the thieves should be treated like Moon Rocks - sterilized and then locked up forever. On 5/9/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Was that article an exercise in style? At least...due to the efforts of a few enthusiasts on the globe, everyone can have now his piece of Moon Rock at a price of a paperback :-) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Pete Pete Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 12:58 An: cyna...@charter.net; meteoritelist meteoritelist Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Thieves.I hate them! From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:30:00 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks http://gizmodo.com/5242736/how-an-intern-stole-nasas-moon-rocks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
On Sat, 9 May 2009 09:11:22 -0500, you wrote: Is the story true? I read it and it sounds like pop-culture fiction. I've never heard anything about this elsewhere. http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Thad+Roberts%22+moonas_user_ldate=2000/01as_user_hdate=2009/12scoring=thl=enned=usnav_num=38 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
Yes, a safe was lifted there, as well as the part of the Good-Will Moon Rock, presented to Honduras was stolen and was tried to be trafficked in USA. Currently the Apollo-sample of Malta is missing. Once I saw a strange documentation (was it on BBC or on discovery?), where it was stated, that most of the Apollo-samples once distributed to the nations of the World would have been lost and are missing. Is that true? (was a strange documentation, a man with a big belly and a full beard driving an old car was shown as to be the special agent of NASA, searching for the missing Moon rocks...). Let's open a new thread: Identify the Moon Rock given to your country! I start. Germany should have 3 Moon Rocks. Two are given on permanent loan - one to the Technische Museum Berlin, the other is housed in the exhibition of the Ries-Crater-Museum in Noerdlingen (the astronauts got their a geological training in the Ries-Crater by Eugene Shoemaker). The Good-Will-piece donated to the Federal Rep. of Germany (don't know whether the former German Democratic Rep. got one too?), must be somewhere in the Deutsche Museum in Munich. Wasn't a longer time there, have to go there again, so I don't know, whether it's currently on display or somewhere in the storage (museums in Germany are sometimes somewhat strange in estimating, if an item could be attractive for the visitors or not...). Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 16:11 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Is the story true? I read it and it sounds like pop-culture fiction. I've never heard anything about this elsewhere. If it's true, the thieves should be treated like Moon Rocks - sterilized and then locked up forever. On 5/9/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Was that article an exercise in style? At least...due to the efforts of a few enthusiasts on the globe, everyone can have now his piece of Moon Rock at a price of a paperback :-) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Pete Pete Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 12:58 An: cyna...@charter.net; meteoritelist meteoritelist Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Thieves.I hate them! From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:30:00 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks http://gizmodo.com/5242736/how-an-intern-stole-nasas-moon-rocks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
Hi Martin, I did finally click on some of the embedded links in the story and saw the FBI followup article. The ring leader was sentenced to 8 years in prison - which here in America means he probably served about 2-3 years and then walked. (non-violent crime, ivy league white defendant with previously clean record, good behavior and early release) IMO, that sentence should have been 10 years served to deter any future idiocy of that nature. It made me sick to my stomach to imagine the loss of data and study potential these specimens suffered at the hands of these criminals. As a collector it rankles me, I cannot imagine how the scientists studying the samples must have felt. Perhaps a more fitting sentence for the thieves would be stoning by ordinary chondrites. Tie up the thieves to poles out in the open (third world style) and pelt them mercilessly with weathered-up UNWA from the Tucson bargain bin. ;) So, is there any list of missing lunar samples? How many pilfered moon rocks are floating around the collector's market, or sitting in someone's safe? Best regards, MikeG On 5/9/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Yes, a safe was lifted there, as well as the part of the Good-Will Moon Rock, presented to Honduras was stolen and was tried to be trafficked in USA. Currently the Apollo-sample of Malta is missing. Once I saw a strange documentation (was it on BBC or on discovery?), where it was stated, that most of the Apollo-samples once distributed to the nations of the World would have been lost and are missing. Is that true? (was a strange documentation, a man with a big belly and a full beard driving an old car was shown as to be the special agent of NASA, searching for the missing Moon rocks...). Let's open a new thread: Identify the Moon Rock given to your country! I start. Germany should have 3 Moon Rocks. Two are given on permanent loan - one to the Technische Museum Berlin, the other is housed in the exhibition of the Ries-Crater-Museum in Noerdlingen (the astronauts got their a geological training in the Ries-Crater by Eugene Shoemaker). The Good-Will-piece donated to the Federal Rep. of Germany (don't know whether the former German Democratic Rep. got one too?), must be somewhere in the Deutsche Museum in Munich. Wasn't a longer time there, have to go there again, so I don't know, whether it's currently on display or somewhere in the storage (museums in Germany are sometimes somewhat strange in estimating, if an item could be attractive for the visitors or not...). Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 16:11 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Is the story true? I read it and it sounds like pop-culture fiction. I've never heard anything about this elsewhere. If it's true, the thieves should be treated like Moon Rocks - sterilized and then locked up forever. On 5/9/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Was that article an exercise in style? At least...due to the efforts of a few enthusiasts on the globe, everyone can have now his piece of Moon Rock at a price of a paperback :-) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Pete Pete Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 12:58 An: cyna...@charter.net; meteoritelist meteoritelist Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Thieves.I hate them! From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:30:00 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks http://gizmodo.com/5242736/how-an-intern-stole-nasas-moon-rocks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
[meteorite-list] Interesting piece on comets
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 9, 2009
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[meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
A more recent theft of Apollo moon rock--2 educational disks stolen from a car in Virginia Beach. http://hamptonroads.com/node/48651 http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/001816.html I not sure if these have been recovered. Best, Whitney __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Dr. Brian Mason/Dr. King libraries for sale
Dear List, I ahve just finished compiling another list of publications and catalogues from the libraries of the late Dr. Mason (Smithsonian)/ Dr.King (Harvard) library. There are several interesting publications and catalogues of meteorites in this lot, nearly 200 publications, some signed. Many are rare and hard to find. If anyone is interested please contact me off list. Thank you. I can provide the full Excel file to those interested in making an offer to purchase. All offers will be considered. Thank you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Extended Trailer / Teaser Now on YouTube
Dear Listees: Greetings comrades. Our production company has uploaded an extended promo for Meteorite Men to YouTube. This is actually the opening sequence of the show. We hope you enjoy it, and US subscribers please tune in tomorrow, Sunday, at 9pm on Science Channel and Science Channel HD if you can. Please note that in some markets there is an earlier broadcast at 6 pm Pacific. For the rest of you, around the world, we do hope for news about an international release and/or DVD release and will let you know, when we know : ) This should give you a good idea of the flavor of the show: Extended trailer / teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pA-tYNwh1o Thanks to everyone who has given us feedback and encouragement along the way. Steve and I have been wrapped up in this project for seventeen months, and the generous support of our friends and colleagues means a whole lot to us. With best wishes to all, Geoff N. Tucson, AZ www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Extended Trailer / Teaser Now on YouTube
So great!So completely great!Bravo to all involved. On May 9, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Notkin wrote: Dear Listees: Greetings comrades. Our production company has uploaded an extended promo for Meteorite Men to YouTube. This is actually the opening sequence of the show. We hope you enjoy it, and US subscribers please tune in tomorrow, Sunday, at 9pm on Science Channel and Science Channel HD if you can. Please note that in some markets there is an earlier broadcast at 6 pm Pacific. For the rest of you, around the world, we do hope for news about an international release and/or DVD release and will let you know, when we know : ) This should give you a good idea of the flavor of the show: Extended trailer / teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pA- tYNwh1o Thanks to everyone who has given us feedback and encouragement along the way. Steve and I have been wrapped up in this project for seventeen months, and the generous support of our friends and colleagues means a whole lot to us. With best wishes to all, Geoff N. Tucson, AZ www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
Hello Mike, You really should consider switching to decafe ;-) -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Hi Martin, I did finally click on some of the embedded links in the story and saw the FBI followup article. The ring leader was sentenced to 8 years in prison - which here in America means he probably served about 2-3 years and then walked. (non-violent crime, ivy league white defendant with previously clean record, good behavior and early release) IMO, that sentence should have been 10 years served to deter any future idiocy of that nature. It made me sick to my stomach to imagine the loss of data and study potential these specimens suffered at the hands of these criminals. As a collector it rankles me, I cannot imagine how the scientists studying the samples must have felt. Perhaps a more fitting sentence for the thieves would be stoning by ordinary chondrites. Tie up the thieves to poles out in the open (third world style) and pelt them mercilessly with weathered-up UNWA from the Tucson bargain bin. ;) So, is there any list of missing lunar samples? How many pilfered moon rocks are floating around the collector's market, or sitting in someone's safe? Best regards, MikeG On 5/9/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Yes, a safe was lifted there, as well as the part of the Good-Will Moon Rock, presented to Honduras was stolen and was tried to be trafficked in USA. Currently the Apollo-sample of Malta is missing. Once I saw a strange documentation (was it on BBC or on discovery?), where it was stated, that most of the Apollo-samples once distributed to the nations of the World would have been lost and are missing. Is that true? (was a strange documentation, a man with a big belly and a full beard driving an old car was shown as to be the special agent of NASA, searching for the missing Moon rocks...). Let's open a new thread: Identify the Moon Rock given to your country! I start. Germany should have 3 Moon Rocks. Two are given on permanent loan - one to the Technische Museum Berlin, the other is housed in the exhibition of the Ries-Crater-Museum in Noerdlingen (the astronauts got their a geological training in the Ries-Crater by Eugene Shoemaker). The Good-Will-piece donated to the Federal Rep. of Germany (don't know whether the former German Democratic Rep. got one too?), must be somewhere in the Deutsche Museum in Munich. Wasn't a longer time there, have to go there again, so I don't know, whether it's currently on display or somewhere in the storage (museums in Germany are sometimes somewhat strange in estimating, if an item could be attractive for the visitors or not...). Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 16:11 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Is the story true? I read it and it sounds like pop-culture fiction. I've never heard anything about this elsewhere. If it's true, the thieves should be treated like Moon Rocks - sterilized and then locked up forever. On 5/9/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Was that article an exercise in style? At least...due to the efforts of a few enthusiasts on the globe, everyone can have now his piece of Moon Rock at a price of a paperback :-) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Pete Pete Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 12:58 An: cyna...@charter.net; meteoritelist meteoritelist Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks Thieves.I hate them! From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:30:00 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks http://gizmodo.com/5242736/how-an-intern-stole-nasas-moon-rocks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Extended Trailer / Teaser Now on YouTube
AWESOME! Love the adventure comic book theme, and the CGI graphics ROCK! Super Cool! Regards, Eric Notkin wrote: Dear Listees: Greetings comrades. Our production company has uploaded an extended promo for Meteorite Men to YouTube. This is actually the opening sequence of the show. We hope you enjoy it, and US subscribers please tune in tomorrow, Sunday, at 9pm on Science Channel and Science Channel HD if you can. Please note that in some markets there is an earlier broadcast at 6 pm Pacific. For the rest of you, around the world, we do hope for news about an international release and/or DVD release and will let you know, when we know : ) This should give you a good idea of the flavor of the show: Extended trailer / teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pA-tYNwh1o Thanks to everyone who has given us feedback and encouragement along the way. Steve and I have been wrapped up in this project for seventeen months, and the generous support of our friends and colleagues means a whole lot to us. With best wishes to all, Geoff N. Tucson, AZ www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Llooking for canyon diablo strewn field map
Hello and good day all, I am seeking help. I am looking for any info and maps on the Canyon Diablo strewn field. I also need to know the direction flight. I am doing some research and this would sure help. Thanks in advance, Floyd Griff Griffith Parker, Colorado, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Extended Trailer / Teaser Now onYouTube
What a flavor! Smells like space spirit :) Seems to be a perfect blend of science, adventure and *swassshhh* visual sound effects (my personal favorite are the screams accompanying the touch-down-videos ;-) An alternative for the musical background at the beginning at all events would have been http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6BNub2sDY (I do know it from some opinion ... *ruminating* ) Thanks and congratulations, best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Notkin geok...@notkin.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Extended Trailer / Teaser Now onYouTube Dear Listees: Greetings comrades. Our production company has uploaded an extended promo for Meteorite Men to YouTube. This is actually the opening sequence of the show. We hope you enjoy it, and US subscribers please tune in tomorrow, Sunday, at 9pm on Science Channel and Science Channel HD if you can. Please note that in some markets there is an earlier broadcast at 6 pm Pacific. For the rest of you, around the world, we do hope for news about an international release and/or DVD release and will let you know, when we know : ) This should give you a good idea of the flavor of the show: Extended trailer / teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pA-tYNwh1o Thanks to everyone who has given us feedback and encouragement along the way. Steve and I have been wrapped up in this project for seventeen months, and the generous support of our friends and colleagues means a whole lot to us. With best wishes to all, Geoff N. Tucson, AZ www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible New Bolide Reported today
My friend, Eddie Garza reported this to me and said it was OK To pass on to the list: Hi Michael, Location: Corpus Christi Tx (flour bluff) I was at my house sitting on the balcony looking north at the city. The time was approximately 11:42pm when I observed a bright greenish blue flash coming from the southeast night turned to day for a couple seconds. From my balcony I cannot not see behind and above me. I think possibly this was a Bolide. However, i did not hear any detonations or sonic booms that would accompany such an event. Immediately after the 1-2 second pulse of light, half the horizon's lights went out spid lights ect including one radio tower. The lights were still on here at my house yet the cable froze for 20 minutes. my friend Jason who is a few miles north of my location reports Yeah I saw the flash in the air threw my windows then my power went out. I am near Cimarron and Saratoga. also The flash was so bright it lit up my room. I have 3 huge windows facing the freeway. So I ran to the window and saw it get really bright and then bam all the lights went out after it went away. Another car buddy Abel reports: the flash i can say that i saw my fiancee and my team member said they heard 2 loud bangs i was on my way to work,...i was on staples when i saw the flash it looked like it came from the bluff area and when it started then the flash sorta expanded the news reported:KIIITV News Story Created: May 9, 2009 at 5:58 AM CDT Story Updated: May 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM CDT May 9, 2009 From Padre Island, to the southside, S.P.I.D., and some parts of Ocean Drive, a large power outage early Saturday morning left much of the city in the dark. Police officials tell 3 News the outage was caused by a blown transformer on the cities southside. Workers were able to restore power within an hour. The power outage, however, caused a major fire. The fire happened at a home on Glenmore, near Ocean Drive, a little after 12:30 Saturday morning. When fire crews arrived, they found heavy flames pouring from the attic and the front side of the home. Fire officials say the residents had lit a candle in a bedroom, due to the power outage and somehow that candle, caught the room on fire. The fire was contained within 30 minutes, only one side of the home was damaged, and fortunately, no one was injured. Best Regards, -Eddie Garza __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible New Bolide Reported today
Police officials tell 3 News the outage was caused by a blown transformer on the cities southside. Workers were able to restore power within an hour. Putting everything together along with the report of a blown transformer, my money is on a blown transformer. It doesn't seem likely that a meteor was involved here. Those transformers sure make one heck of a bang when they go. :O) GeoZay **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823232x1201398636/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= May5909footerNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
Meteoric moon rocks yes. They are cheap compared to the ones that were obtained by the Apollo missions. The only source that I know that offers real Apollo moon dust (that is all that one can legally own) is Florian Noller at Spaceflori, a dealer of Apollo and space era artifacts. I recently obtained (won) an Apollo 11 Moon Dust presentation, for an amazingly low price as few believed it was real. The last one of these is listed at Spaceflori for $1,895.00,Only a few hundred were made. And they are steadily increasing in value. Just a few grains of moon dust from the Sea of Tranquility obtained when Armstrong dropped the camera magazine, virtually in the same spot where he took his first step on the moon. Tiny specks of dust, a few strands of beta fibers from his spacesuit glove... in a tiny triangular swatch of tape that Mr. Slezak removed from that magazine as he was delegated to develop the first images from the moon. What is such worth? Certainly more than a meteorite lunar chip. The history of it is what makes it valuable. What it cost our nation to obtain, and the supreme risks that the astronauts had to endure to go to the moon for the first time. That, no matter how much moon rock that we later gather, will not compare to the first step on the moon, and the Apollo missions that follow, and the rocks that they brought home. Historical significance will forever make those rocks and dust valuable, and a true national treasure. Steve Schoner IMCA 4470 Message: 2 Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 15:25:05 +0200 From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 01c9d0a9$9165ad20$177f2...@name86d88d87e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Was that article an exercise in style? At least...due to the efforts of a few enthusiasts on the globe, everyone can have now his piece of Moon Rock at a price of a paperback :-) Martin Click here for to find products that will help grow your small business. http://thirdpartyoffers.mybluelight.com/TGL2341/fc/BLSrjpdjQi9iDzDaeo9roLpGNO91LfkSQiznsWph5pa0p9zvpXielxSvhwU/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible New Bolide Reported today
..Another Garza stone ?? Did it land in Park Forest again? - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible New Bolide Reported today My friend, Eddie Garza reported this to me and said it was OK To pass on to the list: Hi Michael, Location: Corpus Christi Tx (flour bluff) I was at my house sitting on the balcony looking north at the city. The time was approximately 11:42pm when I observed a bright greenish blue flash coming from the southeast night turned to day for a couple seconds. From my balcony I cannot not see behind and above me. I think possibly this was a Bolide. However, i did not hear any detonations or sonic booms that would accompany such an event. Immediately after the 1-2 second pulse of light, half the horizon's lights went out spid lights ect including one radio tower. The lights were still on here at my house yet the cable froze for 20 minutes. my friend Jason who is a few miles north of my location reports Yeah I saw the flash in the air threw my windows then my power went out. I am near Cimarron and Saratoga. also The flash was so bright it lit up my room. I have 3 huge windows facing the freeway. So I ran to the window and saw it get really bright and then bam all the lights went out after it went away. Another car buddy Abel reports: the flash i can say that i saw my fiancee and my team member said they heard 2 loud bangs i was on my way to work,...i was on staples when i saw the flash it looked like it came from the bluff area and when it started then the flash sorta expanded the news reported:KIIITV News Story Created: May 9, 2009 at 5:58 AM CDT Story Updated: May 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM CDT May 9, 2009 From Padre Island, to the southside, S.P.I.D., and some parts of Ocean Drive, a large power outage early Saturday morning left much of the city in the dark. Police officials tell 3 News the outage was caused by a blown transformer on the cities southside. Workers were able to restore power within an hour. The power outage, however, caused a major fire. The fire happened at a home on Glenmore, near Ocean Drive, a little after 12:30 Saturday morning. When fire crews arrived, they found heavy flames pouring from the attic and the front side of the home. Fire officials say the residents had lit a candle in a bedroom, due to the power outage and somehow that candle, caught the room on fire. The fire was contained within 30 minutes, only one side of the home was damaged, and fortunately, no one was injured. Best Regards, -Eddie Garza __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/09/09 06:54:00 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - D'Orbigny for only $200.00 per gram
Hi Folks, hey check out the main mass of D'Orbigny angrite now offered on Ebay for $200 per gram. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200334816725ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT Are there any curators out there that would like to add D'Orbigny angrite to their collections? We have fragments from five grams to one kilo in size available for museum trades. Our material is currently on loan for research but we should have it back in a few months. Cheers, Edwin and Patrick Thompson etmeteorites.com etmeteori...@hotmail.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How an Intern Stole NASA's Moon Rocks
Hello Walter, List! This theft of Moon rocks story has seriously been the embarrassment of the century for JSC. Thankfully time is passing and wounds are healing. It was a very sad chapter for responsibility and ethics for the entire academic community. Mike said: Tie up the thieves to poles out in the open (third world style) and pelt them mercilessly with weathered-up UNWA from the Tucson bargain bin. ;) Mike, EDITORIAL The comment Third World Style just hit a nerve. Did you know he dreamed on going on ANSMET expeditions? Mr. Roberts nearly served out his entire term (served 7 and a half years) without much judicial mercy, which was twice the guideline as the judge was responding to political pressures in sentencing. When you say, The ringleader was sentenced to 8 years in prison - which here in America means he probably served about 2-3 years and then walked. non-violent crime, ivy league white defendant with previously clean record, good behavior and early release It's a bit inciting and unrelated to this case, even you are just expressing general frustration with the United States judicial system which many of us may and may not agree. I suspect the judge who sentenced these aspiring scientists shared this line of thinking. Oh, Roberts was definitely not Ivy League. He lifted himself up and then crashed and burned all by his own bootstraps. The political nature of w hat happened is the driver here. Far from the research and material allegedly compromised (Is there any specific place in the scientific literature where this was cited as compromising results?), it was a shot into the heart of public faith of national curation of taxpayer financed recovered material from the moon and ANSMET in what NASA would like everyone to have believed was the Fort Knox of science. Mr. Roberts was made a whipping boy to divert attention from the whole fiasco as this sort of failure IMO should have had much greater repercussions. Sure, some positive changes were made as a result, but who can say with a straight face that rogue interns are only to blame, and weave a Tom Clancy novel out the smokescreen. The labeling of them as Rogue Interns at te time only gives me the willies that taxpayers' were being mislead, a rogue asteroid, maybe, but please ... these are three typical nerds gone completely unsupervised in the heart of America's treasure chest. It strikes me as odd that three interns with different backgrounds all passing the incredibly competitive and difficult intern selection process would all go for this, that would have left many of us in the dust intellectually. We are talking three highly talented people here that are all typical high achievers, great leaders, and hand picked by NASA for that quality specifically - not brainwashed zombies... Consider the punishment for the two=2 0female accomplices. They received no prison time (a special waiver from sentencing guidelines), and were able to continue their education so they could make a positive contribution to society. Now, if I am to understand the arguments of the prosecution, Mr. Roberts was the Mastermind who was the brightest of the bunch, and the other two were zombies that just had temporary lapses of judgement. However, elsewhere Fowler is described as a woman who challenged Cool Hand Thad to the point of earning his great respect and becoming his dream girl. If I follow that so-called genius logic, it was mastermind Roberts who could have made the most valuable contributions to society, yet he was the only intern they nailed (and Darren claims Bubba did too). Of course I don't follow that logic. I just suspect third-world justice was imparted and it was an implicit case of gender discrimination for a more noble cause of needing a scapegoat, as the women no doubt were equally qualified in everything and probably more meticulous instead of arrogant fools likeThad Roberts. I suspect that the theft was not much more difficult to execute than a bunch of high-schoolers stealing a road sign due to the lack of a few minor but key appropriate controls. I mean, these guys stole a 600 pound safe from JSC - and carted it out on a WalMart dolly which they bought a few hours before, in all this said to be premeditation for 0Amonths. Many things just don't exactly add up on a critical reading. Mr. Robert's view is especially amusing in understanding his motives here. He justified the whole thing by saying that these rocks would not be missed because they were already contaminated as they were used leftover returns of material that had been subjected to scientific test and which was supposedly never to be used again - (apparently there is some basis to this, though rife with misinterpretation). He argued that the rocks were locked up never to see the light of day again and thus he was doing a favor, this physics geek, by liberating them. Perhaps his real motivation, was his own
[meteorite-list] Scored a Polarizing scope-- need Manual: MRH3-POL LOMO
After 6+ years of looking for an affordable polarizing scope, I found a MRH3-POL LOMO Polarizing scope complete with external lamp power supply. I found it at non-profit thrift store in Kentucky. I paid the full asking price... $20. On the LOMO US websites they have no link and only who knows what on their Russian Language site. I can't find a manual for it PDF on line or otherwise. Does anyone have a .pdf for the MRH3 or 4 POL they could send me or send me to the link? Or from a similar scope? Today Google wasn't my friend. Elton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Daylight Fireball! Meteor Plane or Space Debris?
Don't know what to make of this one. Dual smoke trails? Or does it only to appear to be two smoke trails. The event happened West-NorthWest of Rottnest Island, a small island off the southwestern coast of Australia near Perth. Complete with photo and article of the sighting. http://fremantlebiz.livejournal.com/483475.html Interesting... But alas, if this is a meteor fireball it's probably swimmin' wit' da fishes right now. -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
