[meteorite-list] AD: Never Before Available- GRIFFITH, TEXAS, Ungrouped Ataxite
Hello, Today I am offering a very rare and unusual Ataxite from Texas. The Griffith, Texas Ataxite is ungrouped and is loaded with many rare elements. It is a soft Ataxite compared to others, and was difficult to polish. Many of the slices have inclusions, some very light and hard to see, other distinct. Total weight available is less than 1500 grams. A lot of specimens have gone quickly into institutions and major private collections. I will consider trades on some of the slices, but would prefer to stay with trading for other iron meteorites with this one. Average price depending on size is $10.00 per gram. However, after 10 days the price goes to $15.00 per gram. It really is rare, low total known weight, and not much available. GRIFFITH Ungrouped Ataxite Meteoritical Bulletin Info: Griffith Cochran County, Texas, USA Found 1985, summer Iron, ataxite (ungrouped) A ~6 kg (~13 pound) iron meteorite was found by Daniel de los Santos while he was hoeing in a cotton field. Description (T. McCoy and R. Clarke, SI) and classification (J. Wasson, UCLA): bulk metal composition, Co = 0.73 wt %, Ni = 14.3 wt%, Ga = 0.3 ppm, As = 0.2 ppm, Ir = 10 ppm, Au = 0.06 ppm; composition is similar to group IVB. Specimens: type specimen, 120 g, contact M. Gower, TTech; 83 g plus polished section, SI. This was a difficult meteorite to rescue out of the field! The owner of this meteorite first contacted me a few months ago, telling me that they did indeed have a meteorite and that they wanted to sell it. They gave me enough information to convince me that maybe it was indeed a meteorite. I drove to Texas to check it out. Yes, it was a meteorite and it was already classified too! However, at first the owners only wanted to sell me a small portion of this Ataxite, because they wanted to keep the rest to make jewelry! Yikes. I worked hard to make them understand that there are better meteorites to make jewelry out of. I tried to explain that this meteorite was too rare to make jewelry out of and that there are other meteorites which have been studied and are more plentiful for such an activity. Well, after many hours talking, two trips to Texas and thousands of dollars later, I was able to get them to let this cool and rare Ataxite go free. Many of the slices have gone to major institutions for study and into major private collections. All that is available is in my ebay store and really that is not much! Actually, there is less than 1500 grams available to the collecting community! GO TO EBAY STORE HOME PAGE--- SEARCH GRIFFITH http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - June 10, 2009
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Re: [meteorite-list] The tale of a falling star
Doug said: I am thinking [of] Greece, Cyprus and Turkey, but no meteorite comes to mind. I'm sure Doug named those places because there were famous meteorites of religious significance associated with sites there. While it is true that their whereabouts is presently unknown [and will likely remain that way), there's no doubt whatsoever about their existence. So, no, no ancient ruins "yielded" authenticated meteorites. You see, there was this obscure religious cult that took over and tried, with great success, to destroy all traces of any previous religious worship, temples, shrines, relics, and so forth. No meteorite survivors of Greece and Rome are known. However, there are pieces of the "Black Stone" of the Kaa'ba, a meteorite, in Turkey (by a List memeber): http://kauscience.k12.hi.us/~ted/Blackstone/hajar-al-aswad.htm The meteoritic nature (or non-nature) of a famous Temple stone is discussed by another List member: http://imca.repetti.net/articles/IMCA-Insights4.htm Evidence in coinage of Temple stones, some of which were meteorites, can be found here (more List members): http://www.pibburns.com/catastro/metstamp.htm#classicalcoins A discussion of various meteoritic Temple stones can be found here (Popular ASstronomy, 1936, at ADS): http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1936PA.44..514W/514.000.html Traditionally, the Classical Temple stones were "nose-cone" shaped. In a word, oriented (if they were meteorites). There is a fascinating discussion of why the baetyls that are found are not actually meteorites. The explanation? Lots of shrines, but not so many meteorites! http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=845 Everybody wants a meteorite for their Temple, ya know? Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: "Mexicodoug" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The tale of a falling star Great article, though this paragraph about other "meteors" being found need editing: "Other meteors have been located in ancient ruins of the Americas, as well as around the world, ranging in size from the three ounce Pojoaque meteorite, found in an ancient pottery bowl near Santa Fe, N.M., to the 3,407-pound Casas Grandes iron discovered in an Inca ruin near Chihuahua, Mexico." The Incas, of course are not from Chihuahua, but a good fraction of a world away in Peru ... The author is referring to the Paquimé pueblo of the probably Anasazi Pueblo type Indians (Like from the US southwest), though they may have had a tad more of Aztec influence. And the meteorite is from INSIDE Chihuahua (the state), and NEAR Nuevas Casas Grandes. It was found far from Chihuahua City actually much closer to Arizona which is just 93 miles away. Political boundaries...bah :-) Does anyone recall what other ancient ruins yielded authenticated meteorites outside the Americas as claiming by the article they are found "all around the world in ancient ruins". I am thinking Greece, Cyprus and Turkey, but no meteorite comes to mind. And the Japanese one was certainly not found in ruins. Another tear shed today after reading about the other Grand Canyon fragment... "In 1953, after America abandoned Route 66, Nininger moved his collection to Sedona, where it was put on display in the Verde Valley for the first time in nearly 800 yea rs." One (at least me) wonders whether the "800 year buried piece of Canyon Diablo (Camp Verde piece)" was ever at all "on display" on the Native American Sinagua or if it was placed to rest with that stone ceremonially out of sight with respects being rendered specifically NOT to be displayed, I am not sure how this statement about displaying could be made in the article with any accuracy, and suppose the author really got carried away trying to say the Camp Verde piece is on display in the Verde Vally of AZ...but not sure; thanks for the post! Best wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Groetz To: Meteorite List Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 8:37 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] The tale of a falling star http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=31230 The tale of a falling star By Steve Ayers, Staff Reporter Tuesday, June 09, 2009 CAMP VERDE - George Dawson was no stranger to hard work. A seasoned construction hand, he traveled extensively throughout Central America and the American southwest, moving mountains for money and, when time allowed, doing some digging on his own for both fun and profit. In the spring of 1927, Dawson found himself between jobs. A Phoenix resident, he loaded his truck with supplies and tools of his trade, and headed north, hoping the fertile ground of the Verde Valley would surren der its ancient treasures. Pothunters like Dawson knew the valley to be a steady source of income for anyone willing to turn over a few stones. For this trip he chose a uniquely constructed ruin lo
[meteorite-list] Ad post for Robert Ward (revised links)
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[meteorite-list] AD - 11.5g Esquel Slice
Hello All, I have an 11.5g square-cut Esquel part-slice for sale or trade. It's an older, slightly thicker slice so the olivine actually looks bright green, rather unlike the thinner slices that have been on the market more recently which have better surface area but much less colour. From what I can tell, *no* lacquer was used to restore the olivine in this specimen - it looks to be completely original, even on the corners. Sharp corners and edges, a perfect piece for jewelry-making or for a collector looking for a prime example of a pallasite. There's no rust, but it could use a light buffing to get rid of minor surface things like fingerprints. A fine specimen of a getting-harder-to-find meteorite. Photos available here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30622...@n08/sets/72157619522338206/ Asking $400. Open to offers or trades. Thanks, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The tale of a falling star
Great article, though this paragraph about other "meteors" being found need editing: "Other meteors have been located in ancient ruins of the Americas, as well as around the world, ranging in size from the three ounce Pojoaque meteorite, found in an ancient pottery bowl near Santa Fe, N.M., to the 3,407-pound Casas Grandes iron discovered in an Inca ruin near Chihuahua, Mexico." The Incas, of course are not from Chihuahua, but a good fraction of a world away in Peru ... The author is referring to the Paquimé pueblo of the probably Anasazi Pueblo type Indians (Like from the US southwest), though they may have had a tad more of Aztec influence. And the meteorite is from INSIDE Chihuahua (the state), and NEAR Nuevas Casas Grandes. It was found far from Chihuahua City actually much closer to Arizona which is just 93 miles away. Political boundaries...bah :-) Does anyone recall what other ancient ruins yielded authenticated meteorites outside the Americas as claiming by the article they are found "all around the world in ancient ruins". I am thinking Greece, Cyprus and Turkey, but no meteorite comes to mind. And the Japanese one was certainly not found in ruins. Another tear shed today after reading about the other Grand Canyon fragment... "In 1953, after America abandoned Route 66, Nininger moved his collection to Sedona, where it was put on display in the Verde Valley for the first time in nearly 800 yea rs." One (at least me) wonders whether the "800 year buried piece of Canyon Diablo (Camp Verde piece)" was ever at all "on display" on the Native American Sinagua or if it was placed to rest with that stone ceremonially out of sight with respects being rendered specifically NOT to be displayed, I am not sure how this statement about displaying could be made in the article with any accuracy, and suppose the author really got carried away trying to say the Camp Verde piece is on display in the Verde Vally of AZ...but not sure; thanks for the post! Best wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Groetz To: Meteorite List Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 8:37 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] The tale of a falling star http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=31230 The tale of a falling star By Steve Ayers, Staff Reporter Tuesday, June 09, 2009 CAMP VERDE - George Dawson was no stranger to hard work. A seasoned construction hand, he traveled extensively throughout Central America and the American southwest, moving mountains for money and, when time allowed, doing some digging on his own for both fun and profit. In the spring of 1927, Dawson found himself between jobs. A Phoenix resident, he loaded his truck with supplies and tools of his trade, and headed north, hoping the fertile ground of the Verde Valley would surren der its ancient treasures. Pothunters like Dawson knew the valley to be a steady source of income for anyone willing to turn over a few stones. For this trip he chose a uniquely constructed ruin located on a windswept, five-acre mesa above West Clear Creek. With a view of the entire valley, the outline of its crumbled walls looked more like a stockade than a home, a nearly square perimeter of rooms surrounding a common courtyard. Latter-day archaeologists believe the pueblo was built by people of the Salado culture, indigenous to the Salt River Valley, instead of the native Sinagua whose former homes make up the bulk of the Verde's ancient architecture. A very good day One day while searching through rubble in the northeast corner of one room, Dawson spied a familiar structure -- one that led him to believe it was going to be a good day -- a very good day. The flat slab of sandstone at his feet, he knew to be the cover of a burial cyst, just the right size to contain the body of a child, along with whatever treasures the family had packed along for the afterlife. Dawson slid the cover back and began clearing the accumulated dirt and debris. Eighteen inches down he uncovered a layer of feathers. As he gently scraped away he realized in was a blanket of feathers, wrapped about the cherished treasure. An hour or so later, having cleared out all but the feather blanket and its contents, he reached20in and gently lifted the bundle. It pulled back. A second more forceful tug and Dawson realized it was not the lightweight body of the child he had expected. With great difficulty, he wrestled the object from its grave, pulled back the delicate feather blanket and found himself gazing at a two-foot long, one-foot wide, five-inch thick, 135-pound, oddly-shaped hunk of rusting rock. Dawson had an idea of what he was looking at, but it was not until several months later, after it was tested, that he knew for sure. The object so delicately wrapped and reverently placed in the stone cyst was a nickel-iron meteorite, or what meteorite collectors call simply, an iron. The second journey To date, know one knows how it got there. We do k
[meteorite-list] The tale of a falling star
http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=31230 The tale of a falling star By Steve Ayers, Staff Reporter Tuesday, June 09, 2009 CAMP VERDE - George Dawson was no stranger to hard work. A seasoned construction hand, he traveled extensively throughout Central America and the American southwest, moving mountains for money and, when time allowed, doing some digging on his own for both fun and profit. In the spring of 1927, Dawson found himself between jobs. A Phoenix resident, he loaded his truck with supplies and tools of his trade, and headed north, hoping the fertile ground of the Verde Valley would surrender its ancient treasures. Pothunters like Dawson knew the valley to be a steady source of income for anyone willing to turn over a few stones. For this trip he chose a uniquely constructed ruin located on a windswept, five-acre mesa above West Clear Creek. With a view of the entire valley, the outline of its crumbled walls looked more like a stockade than a home, a nearly square perimeter of rooms surrounding a common courtyard. Latter-day archaeologists believe the pueblo was built by people of the Salado culture, indigenous to the Salt River Valley, instead of the native Sinagua whose former homes make up the bulk of the Verde's ancient architecture. A very good day One day while searching through rubble in the northeast corner of one room, Dawson spied a familiar structure -- one that led him to believe it was going to be a good day -- a very good day. The flat slab of sandstone at his feet, he knew to be the cover of a burial cyst, just the right size to contain the body of a child, along with whatever treasures the family had packed along for the afterlife. Dawson slid the cover back and began clearing the accumulated dirt and debris. Eighteen inches down he uncovered a layer of feathers. As he gently scraped away he realized in was a blanket of feathers, wrapped about the cherished treasure. An hour or so later, having cleared out all but the feather blanket and its contents, he reached in and gently lifted the bundle. It pulled back. A second more forceful tug and Dawson realized it was not the lightweight body of the child he had expected. With great difficulty, he wrestled the object from its grave, pulled back the delicate feather blanket and found himself gazing at a two-foot long, one-foot wide, five-inch thick, 135-pound, oddly-shaped hunk of rusting rock. Dawson had an idea of what he was looking at, but it was not until several months later, after it was tested, that he knew for sure. The object so delicately wrapped and reverently placed in the stone cyst was a nickel-iron meteorite, or what meteorite collectors call simply, an iron. The second journey To date, know one knows how it got there. We do know that Dawson sold it in 1939 to one of the preeminent meteorite researchers and collectors of his day, Harold Harlow Nininger, who dubbed it the Camp Verde Meteorite. Convention dictated it be named for the closest post office or geological feature. We also know that in 1959 Nininger sold the meteorite, along with more than 700 others, to Arizona State University, where it is currently housed in the school's meteorite collection at ASU's Center for Meteorite Studies. What significance the object held to the architecturally unique souls who once lived on Wingfield Mesa, we will likely never know. Archaeologists have uncovered feather blankets, and several meteorites, in archaeological digs. Dawson is the only one to have found both of them together. Religious significance A year after Dawson's find, two pothunters discovered another meteorite in a stone cyst, or at least 40 to 50 pounds of fragments thereof, in a ruin east of Flagstaff. It became known as the Winona Meteorite and is now on display at the museum of Northern Arizona. Other meteors have been located in ancient ruins of the Americas, as well as around the world, ranging in size from the three ounce Pojoaque meteorite, found in an ancient pottery bowl near Santa Fe, N.M., to the 3,407-pound Casas Grandes iron discovered in an Inca ruin near Chihuahua, Mexico. As Peter Pilles, archaeologist for the Coconino National Forest, has observed, when archaeologists are uncertain about an object's use or importance, they give it religious significance. But in the case of the Camp Verde meteorite, with its feather wrappings and the fact it was stored in the same manner as human remains, there can be little doubt it was held in reverence. Scientific questions Lawrence Garvie, director of meteorite collection at ASU, is a scientist both by nature and by training. But even he can't help but speculate on the meteorite's unusual shape and significance. "It looks to me more like a child than a leaf or an arrowhead, as some have described it. It has a distinctive head and shoulders, and a very pronounced backbone that appears to have been rubbed smooth by human touch. And when struck it has
[meteorite-list] [AD] Historic Monnig Collection Pieces, Big Sikhotes and LDG, etc.
Dear Listees: Greetings all. I am delighted to offer a fine assortment of historic pieces from the Oscar Monnig Collection. We have individuals, slices and part slices from six classic Texas chondrites: Davy (a), Davy (b), Dimmitt, Round Top (b), Tulia (a) and Tulia (d). All specimens come with original Monnig Collection labels and the Dimmitt and Tulia individuals carry hand painted Monnig Collection numbers (as cataloged by Glenn Huss) AND a second set of numbers which were Oscar's personal code noting where the specimen was found. http://www.aerolite.org/historic-meteorites.htm#monnig I am offering a free copy of "The Oscar E. Monnig Meteorite Collection Catalog" for any purchase of $200 or more. Order today and pay with PayPal before midnight Pacific and take 10% off your order too. Please check out our Museum Quality Specimens page for some real cosmic wonders: http://www.aerolite.org/museum-specimens.htm Of special note: A 10.02 kilo Sikhote-Alin shrapnel specimen, shield shaped and covered with fascinating surface features. This very large piece defies gravity and stands up naturally on its edge, making for a dynamite display piece. Look at the photos and you'll see what I mean. Really, we did not prop it up!: http://www.aerolite.org/museum/sikhote-alin-shrap-10kg.htm Also, an intriguing large Sikhote-Alin individual, 2,971 grams, with good regmaglypts and amazing pointing "fingers": http://www.aerolite.org/museum/sikhote-alin-2971.htm All recent additions can be viewed on one page here: http://www.aerolite.org/new.htm And finally for today, we are down to our last small handful of the limited edition "Meteorite Men" Brenham collectibles in lucite. Only 100 of this special edition were made by Steve #1 and myself, and they come with a numbered Certificate of Authenticity and a signed color photo of the excavation of the complete mass. Details: http://www.aerolite.org/meteoritemen/brenham-kansas-meteorite.htm We have less than ten left, so let me know pronto if you want one. As always, we ship anywhere in the known universe and happily accept PayPal, checks, money orders, and major credit cards. Layaways available. Reasonable offers always considered. Thanks for looking and all the best from the Wild West, Geoff N. Aerolite Meteorites of Tucson www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org www.tucsoncitizen.com/lizard __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5546 and CV3's in general
I also have something similar and it is also very strongly magnetic. See here some photos: http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/1.jpg http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/2.jpg Look at how georgous it is from this photo: http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/3.jpg Here almost looks like a part where chondrules is missing http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/4.jpg http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/5.jpg The stone before I cut the end off was 894 Grams. Pretty nice whatever it is Cheers DEAN --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Phil Morgan wrote: > From: Phil Morgan > Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 5546 and CV3's in general > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 3:57 PM > Hello everyone, > I recently purchased a small endpiece of what I assumed was > probably a > pairing to NWA 5546. > > After cleaning it up a bit, I noticed an overall elongation > and > orientation of the chondrules. I was wondering if anyone > else would > agree from the picture at the link below. > http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/share/cv3b.jpg > > I've always been fascinated by Leoville and while this may > not be as > extreme, I thought I'd go out on a limb and see if anyone > else saw it. > > For those of you who have some, does this look like NWA > 5546? Is > there any reason to believe this might not even be a CV3? > > Also, I tend to collect smaller pieces to match my budget > and was > surprised at how hard this pulled to a magnet. More like > an H > chondrite. How do the different carbonaceous classes > typically > respond to a magnet? In Ruben's recent CK recovery video > I recall > that those responsed fairly strongly as well. > > Thanks, > Phil > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 5546 and CV3's in general
Hello everyone, I recently purchased a small endpiece of what I assumed was probably a pairing to NWA 5546. After cleaning it up a bit, I noticed an overall elongation and orientation of the chondrules. I was wondering if anyone else would agree from the picture at the link below. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/share/cv3b.jpg I've always been fascinated by Leoville and while this may not be as extreme, I thought I'd go out on a limb and see if anyone else saw it. For those of you who have some, does this look like NWA 5546? Is there any reason to believe this might not even be a CV3? Also, I tend to collect smaller pieces to match my budget and was surprised at how hard this pulled to a magnet. More like an H chondrite. How do the different carbonaceous classes typically respond to a magnet? In Ruben's recent CK recovery video I recall that those responsed fairly strongly as well. Thanks, Phil __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Meteorwritings, " Richard Norton, and "The Art of Collecting Meteorites"
Geoff kindly writes: "This month's episode is dedicated to our late friend Richard Norton, as he did so very much to popularize our favorite subject:" http://geology.com/meteorites/meteorite-collecting.shtml "In addition, I wrote a brief piece about Richard for my science column on TucsonCitizen.com. Anyone who is interested can find it here:" http://tucsoncitizen.com/lizard/2009/06/04/richard-norton-space-rock-writer Thank you very much for sharing with us! The photo that shows our late friend Richard Norton accepting the Harvey Award for outstanding contributions to the field of meteoritics during the 2003 Tucson gem show with a smiling Dorothy in the background reminds me of a fascinating, little episode of the 2008 Munich show: Our younger grandson Elias who is "only" six years young, loves and adores dinosaurs. The first question he usually asks when he comes to our house is: "Grandpa, can I watch this or that dinosaur DVD". A few moments later, you can ask him if he wants something to drink, whether he wants something to eat, ... no answer because he is so enthusiastic about these critters that he just doesn't hear you :-) Close to the entrance to the 2008 Munich show, my Pauline and I, we suddenly spotted a group of (Swiss?) people offering dinosaur replicas -- not cheap because expertly made! Well, we acquired the only T-Rex tooth replica that was left to the disappointment of a German list member who would also have liked such a genuine copy of the "real thing!" Elias' reaction when he saw this T-Rex tooth is beyond description! Not only was it carefully packed but it also contained detailed info about the former owner of this tooth: Stan, a majestic "Tyrant Lizard King" roaming the Hell Creek Formation, Upper Cretaceous, South Dakota, USA, about 65 million years ago. Let me now come back to your brief piece about Richard on TucsonCitizen.com, where we can see a smiling Dorothy in the background. When I read the leaflet that came with Stan's tooth and when I scanned the contents into my computer for later use when Elias is old enough to really "appreciate" what he has got, I suddenly saw a precise rendering of a dinosaur's skull on one of these leaflets. I don't think I have to tell you who the artist of this skull is and that's only one reason why Dorothy was the co-recipient of that award! Best from Germany, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Meteorwritings, " Richard Norton, and "The Art of Collecting Meteorites"
Dear Listees: The June edition of "Meteorwritings" has been online for a few days. In keeping with Geology.com's interest in entry level content, this is a basic introduction to meteorite collecting for beginners. As always, we took a series of new photos for the column, and I think you will find a couple of them quite amusing. This month's episode is dedicated to our late friend Richard Norton, as he did so very much to popularize our favorite subject: http://geology.com/meteorites/meteorite-collecting.shtml In the article I recommend List member Kevin Kichinka's "The Art of Collecting Meteorites." I had the pleasure of working with Kevin on his lovely book, a while back, as design director. Kevin published the book himself, and I gather it is fairly close to selling out. Anyone who collects meteorite books and does not have a copy, may want to add this fine edition to his/her library before they are all gone. You can order a copy from directly from Kevin here: http://www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com In addition, I wrote a brief piece about Richard for my science column on TucsonCitizen.com. Anyone who is interested can find it here: http://tucsoncitizen.com/lizard/2009/06/04/richard-norton-space-rock-writer Thanks for reading and all the best from Tucson, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Postdoctoral position in Antarctic meteorite research
Howdy ladies and gents, I'm passing on notification that a postdoctoral position in Antarctic meteorite research is available. The point of contact is Dr. Ralph Harvey at Case Western University, with contact info at the bottom. Cheers, MDF -- Forwarded Message From: Ralph Harvey Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:08:51 -0700 To: "Fries, Marc D" Subject: Re: Answer Here's the ad Postdoctoral Position: Antarctic Meteorite Recovery and Planetary Research The Antarctic Search for Meteorites (ANSMET) program at Case Western Reserve University is seeking applications for a multi-year postdoctoral research position (title will vary with experience). Duties will include leadership during Antarctic meteorite fieldwork and active involvement in ongoing planetary research. Successful candidates must have a Ph.D. in geology, planetary science, or a related field. Candidates must also have a valid passport or be able to obtain one, and be capable of passing the stringent physical and dental examinations required for Antarctic deployment. Candidates with previous Antarctic experience and/or prior research in planetary studies are preferred. For more details visit http://geology.cwru.edu/~ansmet/postdoc_ad.pdf. To apply, send a letter of application with a summary of your research interests and experience, curriculum vitae, and contact information for three professional references to Dr Ralph Harvey (r...@case.edu) via electronic mail. Review of applications will begin immediately and continue until the position is filled. Case Western Reserve University is an EEO/AA institution. -- Ralph P. Harvey, Assoc. Prof.Phone: (216) 368-0198 Geology, 112 A.W. Smith Bldg. FAX: (216) 368-3691 Case Western Reserve University Cleveland, OH 44106-7216r...@case.edu See the Antarctic Search for Meteorites website- http://geology.cwru.edu/~ansmet/ -- End of Forwarded Message __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ensishem
Hi all, I am just home from a month-long expedition. I am working hard to catch up on old business, and getting ready to leave next week for France and Germany. I will attend both the Ensisheim and St Marie shows in France. I need to know if there is anything anyone there wants me to bring with me, as I will not be exhibiting except on a limited basis. I plan to relax, not work! Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad post for Robert Ward
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[meteorite-list] Mars Orbiter Resumes Science Observations (MRO)
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-096 Mars Orbiter Resumes Science Observations Jet Propulsion Laboratory June 09, 2009 Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Mission Status Report PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is examining Mars again with its scientific instruments after successfully transitioning out of a precautionary standby mode triggered by an unexpected June 3 rebooting of its computer. Engineers brought the spacecraft out of the standby mode on June 6. Cameras and other scientific instruments resumed operation June 9. The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter reached Mars in 2006 and has returned more data about the planet than all other Mars missions combined. The June 3 rebooting resembled a Feb. 23 event on the spacecraft. Engineers are re-investigating possible root causes for both events. The new investigation includes reconsidering the likelihood of erroneous voltage readings resulting from cosmic rays or solar particles hitting an electronic component. Media Contact: Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 2009-096 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dawn Re-Lights the Ionic Fire
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=2180 Dawn Re-Lights the Ionic Fire Jet Propulsion Laboratory June 08, 2009 Mission controllers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., have received a transmission from the Dawn spacecraft confirming it has re-ignited its ion propulsion system. For those of you scoring at home, Thruster # 1 received the honors. Over the course of its eight-year mission, first to asteroid Vesta and then off to dwarf planet Ceres, Dawn's three ion engines will accumulate 2,000 days of operation. The mission of the 1180 kilograms (2,600 pound) spacecraft is to reconnoiter Vesta and Ceres, the asteroid belt's two biggest residents. Dawn is currently 299 million kilometers (185.6 million miles) from Earth. At that distance, it takes almost 17 minutes for a transmission from the spacecraft to arrive on Earth. For more information on Dawn please visit: http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] - 535 Canyon Diablo relocated
Hi Linton, List, How sad! - this smacks of Nininger's closing of his museum at Meteor Crater (Though I am sure the Barringers can identify with it as well). Lowell is the most deserving of institutions, but it looks like the meteorite is now in the part of the visitor center that requires more than a token payment to get in to the complex, whether visitors are interested in seeing the rest the observatory has to offer or not. Now departed is the Verkamps/early Nininger era in Zane Grey's bygone West (whose fiction included references to Meteor Crater). For anyone else like me who gets nostalgic seeing the dying breaths of home brewed cowboy and Indian administration go by the wayside, or the erasure of collective memories tooling down route 66 teaching screaming wide-eyed kids in the back seat learning that travel is so broadening, here's another article related to Linton's post. http://www.santafenewmexican.com/National%20News/Historic-Grand-Canyon-shop-to-close-after-102-years-at-the-rim Trouble with the link? then use this one: http://tinyurl.com/kw8l3e Also, you can't help noticing this part of Linton's linked article: "As to how the Verkamp family ended up with the fragment, Verkamp said, "We don't quite know." " Best wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Linton Rohr To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 2:10 am Subject: [meteorite-list] - 535 Canyon Diablo relocated Nice little specimen moves from Grand Canyon to Lowell Observatory, in Flastaff. http://www.azdailysun.com/articles/2009/06/08/news/20090608_local_197778.txt I wish I had known it was at the Canyon. I've been there numerous times and didn't have a clue it was there Linton. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Getting warm and wet from meteorites
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/06/08/study-20-million-year-meteorite-shower-turned-earth-warm-wet/ Study: 20-Million-Year Meteorite Shower Turned Earth Warm & Wet A shower of millions of rocks from space that collided with Mars, the Earth, and the moon about four billion years ago could have warmed our planet and made it wetter, say researchers. Thats what scientists found when they heated ancient rocks like those that hit the Earth billions of years ago and measured the carbon dioxide and water that was released, according to a study published in the journal Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta. Scientists have long suspected that the necessary materials for life could have come from outer space, and the study suggests how and when the Earth might have received these life-giving ingredients. During the 20-million-year-long meteor shower known as the Late Heavy Bombardment, the rocks that hurtled towards Earth would have been heated to extremely high temperatures as they entered the atmosphere. According to the scientists theory, the frictional heat of passing through the thin atmosphere that surrounded the Earth at that time would have been enough to strip the oxygen- and water-rich outer layers from the meteorites as they plunged toward the planet. That process would slowly have caused a buildup of oxygen and water in the atmosphere [Los Angeles Times]. At a rate of 20,000 degrees Celsius per second, the researchers heated samples of ancient rocks remaining from the bombardment in the absence of oxygen to prevent combustion. They then measured the gases released when the rocks were heated. The scientists found that, on average, each meteorite was capable of releasing up to 12 per cent of its mass as water vapour and 6 per cent of its mass as carbon dioxide [Scientific American]. Although that amount is too minuscule for just a meteor or two to have an effect on the Earths composition, records reveal that the Late Heavy Bombardment dumped millions of rocks on Earth and Mars. The researchers calculate that this would have dumped 10 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide and 10 billion tonnes of water vapour into each planets atmosphere every year [Scientific American]. That amount of carbon dioxide could have started a greenhouse effect to warm up the planet, researchers hypothesize. According to lead author Richard Court, the scientists data reveals just how much water and carbon dioxide was directly injected into the atmosphere by meteorites. These gases could have got to work immediately, boosting the water cycle and warming the planet [Astrobiology Magazine]. But if both Mars and Earth were bombarded by the meteorites, why isnt Mars atmosphere more conducive to life? Unlike Earth, Mars doesnt have a magnetic field to act as a protective shield from the suns solar wind. As a consequence, Mars was stripped of most of its atmosphere. A reduction in volcanic activity also cooled the planet. This caused its liquid oceans to retreat to the poles where they became ice __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5789 and NWA 5790
Exactely! Nakhlites are a well established type of Mars rock, consisting of the 3 clasics: Nakhla, Lafayette and Governador Valadares, 2 Antarctic finds and 2 hot desert finds NWA 817 and NWA 998 - altogether around 27kgs. How rare they are you already can see on the numbers, as almost 5000 numbers lie in between the last find and that one, Therefore the recovery of NWA 5790 is a true sensation. The NWA 5789 is no nakhlite, nor will it be that easy to group it among the established classes, as it seems to be a kind of Mars rock, not yet known among the other Martian meteorites. Unfortunately it was not more than 49grams. It's new and unique and will stay subject of research for a longer while. Therefore the recovery of NWA 5789 is a true sensation. Under what for a denomination NWA 5789 will end in the Bulletin, nobody knows yet. The NomCom of MetSoc is with Martians still somewhat conservative and seems to want to subdue all under the old three main classes S,N or C. While the Mars-experts have a more differentiated system, e.g. they divide the shergottites in at least 5 subtypes. You see it for instance with the new peridotite NWA 4797, also a new type of Mars rock, which is listed now in the Bulletin database as "shergottite" and which the specialists wouldn't necessarily have called so. So maybe NWA 5789 will end up as a "shergottite" there too, but that doesn't change the new aspects, the material offers, in no way. But I guess that will change - it's a little bit like with the lunars, where they had in former times only two types - LUN-A for the anorthositic breccias and LUN-B for the basalts - and look, what for a variety of types we have now. The classification & meteorite science evolves with time and with new finds. Here some basics: As always first David Weir's famous Meteorite Studies: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/ Norbert Classen's Mars & Moon pages, With a complete list of all Martians, including sample pictures of all available Martians as well it is the best collection of main mass pictures: http://www.meteoris.de/ And brandnew, developing to a Martian pendant to Randy Korotev's fantastic lunar pages - Anthony Irvings Martian site: http://www.imca.cc/mars/martian-meteorites.htm Perhaps a remark. Although we're still waiting a little bit, that science can take its share and although we currently can't promise, that something will be left then from NWA 5789, you can apply for a specimen by private mail, to be set on the waiting list. No worries, we aren't cruel, the price of that unique material will be lower than the price of the nakhlites, although it's endlessly rarer. (Uh partially remarkably lower, if I google around). All the Best! Martin & Stefan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 11:42 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 5789 and NWA 5790 Hi Pete and List, "they are different Martian meteorites... " "I can't tell from the description, if they are related or not." If I got that right, they are two different Martians! According to Mr. Habibi's own comments, NWA 5790 is a *nakhlite* whereas Greg's, Stefan's and Martin's NWA 5789 is an anomalous *shergottite* or even a *new* type of Martian rock! Best from Germany, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] prehistoric artefact made of meteorites
(sorry for not including a subject in my previous post) dear list members for a research project I am looking for meteorites from the Sahara or Dhofar* that may have been used by prehistoric man. If you think you have such man shaped artefact in your NWAs (or other collection area) please contact me off-list; we can expertise it. regards *and more generally Africa and Middle East -- Pierre __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 5789 and NWA 5790
Hi Pete and List, "they are different Martian meteorites... " "I can't tell from the description, if they are related or not." If I got that right, they are two different Martians! According to Mr. Habibi's own comments, NWA 5790 is a *nakhlite* whereas Greg's, Stefan's and Martin's NWA 5789 is an anomalous *shergottite* or even a *new* type of Martian rock! Best from Germany, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (no subject)
dear list members for a research project I am looking for meteorites from the Sahara or Dhofar that may have been used by prehistoric man. If you think you have such man shaped artefact in your NWAs (or other collection area) please contact me off-list; we can expertise it. regards -- Pierre __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Last Call......for a while
Hi Anne, Looks like Ensisheim will be even more special than ever with the 10th AnniversaryMany thanks to Zelimir for all his hard work and generosity in helping me with my journey and contacts too. Looking forward to seeing you there Anne and all the others, Graham Ensor, UK impact...@aol.com wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > A week from right now I will be high above the Atlantic on my way to Paris, > then Ensisheim. And I will be gone 2 weeks, to the Ensisheim Show, and a > bit of vacation. > > So, if there is anything on my site you need right now, please let me know > very quickly. > And if you are planning to be in Ensisheim, tell me what you would like to > see "in person" so to speak, and I'll pack it, and bring it with me. Besides > "special requests" I will only bring my Thin-Sections collection to > Ensisheim, it is getting close to 200 thin-sections, but it is still easier > to > carry than huge Campos (sorry Hans). > > See you in Ensisheim, if you are going. > Otherwise, A bientot! > > > Anne M. Black > http://www.impactika.com/ > impact...@aol.com > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > http://www.imca.cc/ > **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585043x1201462775/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > JunestepsfooterNO62) > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] - 535 Canyon Diablo relocated
Nice little specimen moves from Grand Canyon to Lowell Observatory, in Flastaff. http://www.azdailysun.com/articles/2009/06/08/news/20090608_local_197778.txt I wish I had known it was at the Canyon. I've been there numerous times and didn't have a clue it was there Linton. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
