[meteorite-list] Schlieren ... not only in LDG and tektites but also
.. in IVB irons! An excerpt from Buchwald (p. 463): Etched sections [of Chinga] show the s c h l i e r e n bands characteristic of so many group IVB ataxites. They are-on undeformed specimens-straight and parallel, 1-10 mm wide and taper out in irregular ways. There are generally only two 'sets', one having high, the other low reflectivity, but they are of the same chemical composition. Reference: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 2, pp. 461-464. Best from very windy Southern Germany, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - June 11, 2009
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Re: [meteorite-list] Win a piece of moon rock
Sent my comment in but but now noticed someone else sent a similar comment before me. Rats!! Carl _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Future Planetary Collision?
Hi List, Maybe a bit off topic although lots of meteoroids would be created. A French researcher says we may have a collision with Venus or Mars in 3.5 billion years. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2009-06/11/content_8271159.htm Best regards, Charley Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's try elephants ! Hannibal __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy?
Hi all, This just in... Two German news sites report a 14 year old was hit by a meteorite. -- ...A pebble-sized meteorite crashed and burned into Earth, grazing 14-year-old Gerritt Blank while on his way to catch the school bus... Meteor hits boy on way to school Published: 11 Jun 09 11:46 CET “At first, I only saw a big, white ball of light. Then, my hand hurt, and then it slammed into the street,” he told daily /Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung/. “After I saw the white light, I felt something on my hand.” The result was a 10-centimetre burn on the back of his left hand, but Blank knew something special had happened to him. “I thought the meteor struck me, but it could also be a result from the heat as it went by me,” he said. After the intial shock, Blank looked at the glowing rock the left a sizable crater in Brakeler Wald Street. He then took the iced tea from his school lunch and doused his glowing pebble and took it to school with him. “At school, I told the story. My classmates believed me,” he said. His parents didn’t get to hear the story until the end of the school day. Once home, Blank, who plans to focus his studies in science, tested the round, black object and already found some confirmation the pebble is from outer space: like many meteorites, the rock is magnetic. Approximately 3,000 meteorites hit the Earth’s surface daily. SOURCE: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090611-19857.html --- Another site reports: SPACE ATTACK Girl hit by stone from sky SPACE ATTACK. The girl shows the spot where the stone fell. A girl from Essen, Germany has been hit by a stone falling from the sky. The 14-year old said: “I was on my way to school. I saw a white cone of light. Then my hand started hurting.” The stone made a 10cm cut in her hand and then fell to the ground. “I poured ice tea over it and took it with me,” she said. But where did the stone come from? Could it be a meteorite? Experts will have to explain. SOURCE: http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/home/regularieninhalte/world-news-ticker/world/2009/06/11/stone-falling-from-space-hits-girl.html So is it a boy or a girl? And what is the stone that hit them? Anyone else have any info? -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Distribution of Meteorite Finds in Texas ???
Dear Friends, Does anyone know where I might data concerning where meteorites have been found in Texas? Are there any maps showing the location of meteorite finds in Texas? I am curious about the relationship between where meteorites have been found in Texas and regional geomorphic surfaces within Texas. Best Regards, Paul Paul V. Heinrich __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: One cent ebay auctions ending in hours
http://www.meteorite.com/farmer/ I have more than 50 meteorites ending in hours. All meteorites on ebay have no reserve, started at 1 cent! Where they end, they sell. Most are still at one cent. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy?
Sorry instead of And what is the stone that hit them? I didn't actually mean them in the plural sense... I didn't know whether to say her or him. So don't yell at me for thinking this is a meteorite or that there are multiple victims. ;) Sorry for the confusion... Meteorites USA wrote: Hi all, This just in... Two German news sites report a 14 year old was hit by a meteorite. -- ...A pebble-sized meteorite crashed and burned into Earth, grazing 14-year-old Gerritt Blank while on his way to catch the school bus... Meteor hits boy on way to school Published: 11 Jun 09 11:46 CET “At first, I only saw a big, white ball of light. Then, my hand hurt, and then it slammed into the street,” he told daily /Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung/. “After I saw the white light, I felt something on my hand.” The result was a 10-centimetre burn on the back of his left hand, but Blank knew something special had happened to him. “I thought the meteor struck me, but it could also be a result from the heat as it went by me,” he said. After the intial shock, Blank looked at the glowing rock the left a sizable crater in Brakeler Wald Street. He then took the iced tea from his school lunch and doused his glowing pebble and took it to school with him. “At school, I told the story. My classmates believed me,” he said. His parents didn’t get to hear the story until the end of the school day. Once home, Blank, who plans to focus his studies in science, tested the round, black object and already found some confirmation the pebble is from outer space: like many meteorites, the rock is magnetic. Approximately 3,000 meteorites hit the Earth’s surface daily. SOURCE: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090611-19857.html --- Another site reports: SPACE ATTACK Girl hit by stone from sky SPACE ATTACK. The girl shows the spot where the stone fell. A girl from Essen, Germany has been hit by a stone falling from the sky. The 14-year old said: “I was on my way to school. I saw a white cone of light. Then my hand started hurting.” The stone made a 10cm cut in her hand and then fell to the ground. “I poured ice tea over it and took it with me,” she said. But where did the stone come from? Could it be a meteorite? Experts will have to explain. SOURCE: http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/home/regularieninhalte/world-news-ticker/world/2009/06/11/stone-falling-from-space-hits-girl.html So is it a boy or a girl? And what is the stone that hit them? Anyone else have any info? -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Distribution of Meteorite Finds in Texas ???
Hi Paul, Try using the NASA WorldWind program with the Met Soc Bulletin plug-in. It will graphically plot the location of all meteorite falls and finds (outside of Antarctica) - http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/ http://worldwindcentral.com/wiki/Add-on:Meteoritical_Bulletin Best regards, MikeG On 6/11/09, Paul bristo...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Friends, Does anyone know where I might data concerning where meteorites have been found in Texas? Are there any maps showing the location of meteorite finds in Texas? I am curious about the relationship between where meteorites have been found in Texas and regional geomorphic surfaces within Texas. Best Regards, Paul Paul V. Heinrich __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Distribution of Meteorite Finds in Texas ???
Hi Paul, I downloaded all of the meteorite entries from the Meteoritical Society database as a Google Earth file. The file has all the location entries for all of those that have this information in the entry, but it does exclude all Antarctic finds. Of course all the caveats associated with the locations for each meteorite entry still apply... Its actually a pretty neat output if you haven't used it yet... If you use Google Earth, the file can be found at: http://www.fullmoonphotography.net/images/Meteorites/METSOC_20090601_non-Antarctic.kmz You may have a problem with wrap, so you can try here: http://tinyurl.com/kr2a7x Hope this helps. -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Paul bristo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Paul bristo...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Distribution of Meteorite Finds in Texas ??? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 10:25 AM Dear Friends, Does anyone know where I might data concerning where meteorites have been found in Texas? Are there any maps showing the location of meteorite finds in Texas? I am curious about the relationship between where meteorites have been found in Texas and regional geomorphic surfaces within Texas. Best Regards, Paul Paul V. Heinrich __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy?
I'm not sure where to start with this one. It could be a meteorite that hit the childs hand, but with an embellished story to go with it. Or a pebble thrown at the child by either another person or perhaps a passing vehicle, but still accompanied with an embellished story. The boy saw a white Light and soon afterwards felt something on his hand. Well this could be a case of a person describing what they think should have happen if it was a meteorite that hit them. But this is where they trip themselves up. If it was glowing to the point it burnt him as it went by, I doubt the boy would be alive to tell this tale. Either by the large boulder sized rock that it would have to be in order to be glowing on ground impact or the concussion when it hit the ground...apparently right next to him. then he states that the pebble left a sizable crater to which he stared at the glowing rock. Then afterwards doused it with his ice tea and took it to school with him. I also find it interesting that there's no report of any sonic boom...which I'm sure there would have been one for a large rock that glowed to the ground. But since he says it was a pebble, No sonic boom reports would be normal. Me thinks this kid suckered in a lot of folks with some wishful thinking. Perhaps he could do better selling bridges? GeoZay -- Two German news sites report a 14 year old was hit by a meteorite. ...A pebble-sized meteorite crashed and burned into Earth, grazing 14-year-old Gerritt Blank while on his way to catch the school bus... Meteor hits boy on way to school Published: 11 Jun 09 11:46 CET “At first, I only saw a big, white ball of light. Then, my hand hurt, and then it slammed into the street,” he told daily /Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung/. “After I saw the white light, I felt something on my hand.” The result was a 10-centimetre burn on the back of his left hand, but Blank knew something special had happened to him. “I thought the meteor struck me, but it could also be a result from the heat as it went by me,” he said. After the intial shock, Blank looked at the glowing rock the left a sizable crater in Brakeler Wald Street. He then took the iced tea from his school lunch and doused his glowing pebble and took it to school with him. “At school, I told the story. My classmates believed me,” he said. His parents didn’t get to hear the story until the end of the school day. Once home, Blank, who plans to focus his studies in science, tested the round, black object and already found some confirmation the pebble is from outer space: like many meteorites, the rock is magnetic. **Dell Deals: Don’t miss huge summer savings on popular laptops starting at $449. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221770187x1201425153/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215566131%3B37864407%3B i) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy?
Not sure if deserves a comment, but if you look at the pea sized object in the photo, and try to imagine how fast it would fall before reaching terminal velocity (perhaps about 25 or 30 mph) you would quickly realize that it could not make a crater, let alone be blazing firery trail. Mike Fowler Chicago Hi all, This just in... Two German news sites report a 14 year old was hit by a meteorite. -- ...A pebble-sized meteorite crashed and burned into Earth, grazing 14-year-old Gerritt Blank while on his way to catch the school bus... Meteor hits boy on way to school Published: 11 Jun 09 11:46 CET “At first, I only saw a big, white ball of light. Then, my hand hurt, and then it slammed into the street,” he told daily /Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung/. “After I saw the white light, I felt something on my hand.” The result was a 10-centimetre burn on the back of his left hand, but Blank knew something special had happened to him. “I thought the meteor struck me, but it could also be a result from the heat as it went by me,” he said. After the intial shock, Blank looked at the glowing rock the left a sizable crater in Brakeler Wald Street. He then took the iced tea from his school lunch and doused his glowing pebble and took it to school with him. “At school, I told the story. My classmates believed me,” he said. His parents didn’t get to hear the story until the end of the school day. Once home, Blank, who plans to focus his studies in science, tested the round, black object and already found some confirmation the pebble is from outer space: like many meteorites, the rock is magnetic. Approximately 3,000 meteorites hit the Earth’s surface daily. SOURCE: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090611-19857.html --- Another site reports: SPACE ATTACK Girl hit by stone from sky SPACE ATTACK. The girl shows the spot where the stone fell. A girl from Essen, Germany has been hit by a stone falling from the sky. The 14-year old said: “I was on my way to school. I saw a white cone of light. Then my hand started hurting.” The stone made a 10cm cut in her hand and then fell to the ground. “I poured ice tea over it and took it with me,” she said. But where did the stone come from? Could it be a meteorite? Experts will have to explain. SOURCE: http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/home/regularieninhalte/world-news-ticker/world/2009/06/11/stone-falling-from-space-hits-girl.html So is it a boy or a girl? And what is the stone that hit them? Anyone else have any info? -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 • Previous message: [meteorite-list] Future Planetary Collision? • Next message: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy? • Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Boy?
Hi List, We've already discussed this on our German Met.List. and I can tell you it is one of those Yellow Press canards but, unfortunately, quite a few people will fall for such nonsense. Mike Fowler is right on track with his comments and the absolute summit of nonsense is probably this: The result was a 10-centimetre burn on the back of his left hand. Oh well, . Best wishes, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Military intelligence-- still an oxymoron.
http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html Military Hush-Up: Incoming Space Rocks Now Classified By Leonard David SPACE.com's Space Insider Columnist posted: 10 June 2009 05:35 pm ET For 15 years, scientists have benefited from data gleaned by U.S. classified satellites of natural fireball events in Earth's atmosphere but no longer. A recent U.S. military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by hush-hush government spacecraft of incoming bolides and fireballs are classified secret and are not to be released, SPACE.com has learned. The satellites' main objectives include detecting nuclear bomb tests, and their characterizations of asteroids and lesser meteoroids as they crash through the atmosphere has been a byproduct data bonanza for scientists. The upshot: Space rocks that explode in the atmosphere are now classified. It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change, said one scientist familiar with the work. It's unfortunate because there was this great synergy...a very good cooperative arrangement. Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable change in policy. Scientists say not only will research into the threat from space be hampered, but public understanding of sometimes dramatic sky explosions will be diminished, perhaps leading to hype and fear of the unknown. Incoming! Most shooting stars are caused by natural space debris no larger than peas. But routinely, rocks as big as basketballs and even small cars crash into the atmosphere. Most vaporize or explode on the way in, but some reach the surface or explode above the surface. Understandably, scientists want to know about these events so they can better predict the risk here on Earth. Yet because the world is two-thirds ocean, most incoming objects aren't visible to observers on the ground. Many other incoming space rocks go unnoticed because daylight drowns them out. Over the last decade or so, hundreds of these events have been spotted by the classified satellites. Priceless observational information derived from the spacecraft were made quickly available, giving researchers such insights as time, a location, height above the surface, as well as light-curves to help pin down the amount of energy churned out from the fireballs. And in the shaky world we now live, it's nice to know that a sky-high detonation is natural versus a nuclear weapon blast. Where the space-based surveillance truly shines is over remote stretches of ocean far away from the prospect of ground-based data collection. But all that ended within the last few months, leaving scientists blind-sided and miffed by the shift in policy. The hope is that the policy decision will be revisited and overturned. Critical importance The fireball data from military or surveillance assets have been of critical importance for assessing the impact hazard, said David Morrison, a Near Earth Object (NEO) scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center. He noted that his views are his own, not as a NASA spokesperson. The size of the average largest atmospheric impact from small asteroids is a key piece of experimental data to anchor the low-energy end of the power-law distribution of impactors, from asteroids greater than 6 miles (10 kilometers) in diameter down to the meter scale, Morrison told SPACE.com. These fireball data together with astronomical observations of larger near-Earth asteroids define the nature of the impact hazard and allow rational planning to deal with this issue, Morrison said. Morrison said that fireball data are today playing additional important roles. As example, the fireball data together with infrasound allowed scientists to verify the approximate size and energy of the unique Carancas impact in the Altiplano -- on the Peru-Bolivia border -- on Sept. 15, 2007. Fireball information also played an important part in the story of the small asteroid 2008 TC3, Morrison said. That was the first-ever case of the astronomical detection of a small asteroid before it hit last year. The fireball data were key for locating the impact point and the subsequent recovery of fragments from this impact. Link in public understanding Astronomers are closing in on a years-long effort to find most of the potentially devastating large asteroids in our neck of the cosmic woods, those that could cause widespread regional or global devastation. Now they plan to look for the smaller stuff. So it is ironic that the availability of these fireball data should be curtailed just at the time the NEO program is moving toward surveying the small impactors that are most likely to be picked up in the fireball monitoring program, Morrision said. These data have been available to the scientific community for the past decade, he said. It is unfortunate this information is shut off just when it is becoming more valuable to the community interested in characterizing
Re: [meteorite-list] Military intelligence-- still an oxymoron.
Perhaps they have found the big one heading right for us and dont want it to get out... --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Military intelligence-- still an oxymoron. To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 5:10 PM http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html Military Hush-Up: Incoming Space Rocks Now Classified By Leonard David SPACE.com's Space Insider Columnist posted: 10 June 2009 05:35 pm ET For 15 years, scientists have benefited from data gleaned by U.S. classified satellites of natural fireball events in Earth's atmosphere – but no longer. A recent U.S. military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by hush-hush government spacecraft of incoming bolides and fireballs are classified secret and are not to be released, SPACE.com has learned. The satellites' main objectives include detecting nuclear bomb tests, and their characterizations of asteroids and lesser meteoroids as they crash through the atmosphere has been a byproduct data bonanza for scientists. The upshot: Space rocks that explode in the atmosphere are now classified. It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change, said one scientist familiar with the work. It's unfortunate because there was this great synergy...a very good cooperative arrangement. Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable change in policy. Scientists say not only will research into the threat from space be hampered, but public understanding of sometimes dramatic sky explosions will be diminished, perhaps leading to hype and fear of the unknown. Incoming! Most shooting stars are caused by natural space debris no larger than peas. But routinely, rocks as big as basketballs and even small cars crash into the atmosphere. Most vaporize or explode on the way in, but some reach the surface or explode above the surface. Understandably, scientists want to know about these events so they can better predict the risk here on Earth. Yet because the world is two-thirds ocean, most incoming objects aren't visible to observers on the ground. Many other incoming space rocks go unnoticed because daylight drowns them out. Over the last decade or so, hundreds of these events have been spotted by the classified satellites. Priceless observational information derived from the spacecraft were made quickly available, giving researchers such insights as time, a location, height above the surface, as well as light-curves to help pin down the amount of energy churned out from the fireballs. And in the shaky world we now live, it's nice to know that a sky-high detonation is natural versus a nuclear weapon blast. Where the space-based surveillance truly shines is over remote stretches of ocean – far away from the prospect of ground-based data collection. But all that ended within the last few months, leaving scientists blind-sided and miffed by the shift in policy. The hope is that the policy decision will be revisited and overturned. Critical importance The fireball data from military or surveillance assets have been of critical importance for assessing the impact hazard, said David Morrison, a Near Earth Object (NEO) scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center. He noted that his views are his own, not as a NASA spokesperson. The size of the average largest atmospheric impact from small asteroids is a key piece of experimental data to anchor the low-energy end of the power-law distribution of impactors, from asteroids greater than 6 miles (10 kilometers) in diameter down to the meter scale, Morrison told SPACE.com. These fireball data together with astronomical observations of larger near-Earth asteroids define the nature of the impact hazard and allow rational planning to deal with this issue, Morrison said. Morrison said that fireball data are today playing additional important roles. As example, the fireball data together with infrasound allowed scientists to verify the approximate size and energy of the unique Carancas impact in the Altiplano -- on the Peru-Bolivia border -- on Sept. 15, 2007. Fireball information also played an important part in the story of the small asteroid 2008 TC3, Morrison said. That was the first-ever case of the astronomical detection of a small asteroid before it hit last year. The fireball data were key for locating the impact point and the subsequent recovery of fragments from this impact. Link in public understanding Astronomers are closing in on a years-long effort to find most of the potentially devastating large asteroids in our neck of the cosmic woods, those that could cause widespread regional or global devastation. Now they plan to look for
Re: [meteorite-list] Military intelligence-- still an oxymoron.
Yeah, I saw this article. For some reason the press tends to go extra-special whenever they report on military matters. My favorite part is this: The upshot: Space rocks that explode in the atmosphere are now classified. Yeah, that's it. You're not allowed to know that meteors exist. Why, that makes perfect sense, and I'm sure that's exactly how the rule change was phrased. It seems more likely that someone decided that a clever observer could discern important details about our technical capabilities from the information handed out to meteor watchers and decided to clamp down. It may be a temporary change while they review the policy, but you can't tell from that magnificent piece of professional journalism. Magnificent. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy?
Why didn't you ask some one on the list, in Germany to try to fine out the truth!! Because no part of this story made any sense. It was as if no one was actually there to witness anything and it was all a fabricated fantasy. He might as well been describing a 6 foot tall invisible bunny. GeoZay **Dell Deals: Don’t miss huge summer savings on popular laptops starting at $449. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221770187x1201425153/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215566131%3B37864407%3B i) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy?
He might as well been describing a 6 foot tall invisible bunny. Harvey :-)) Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Military intelligence-- still an oxymoron.
Perhaps they have found the big one heading right for us and dont want it to get out... The satellites involved only look down. So if they've found the big one, it's pretty darn close... Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Military intelligence-- still an oxymoron. Perhaps they have found the big one heading right for us and dont want it to get out... __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update: May 28 - June 3, 2009
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Underbelly Photography - sols 1920-1926, May 28 - June 03, 2009: Although Spirit has yet to begin to extricate herself from the loose, soft terrain on the west side of Home Plate, the rover has been active using her instruments to assess her embedded state. This week the robotic arm (Instrument Deployment Device, IDD) with the Microscopic Imager (MI) were used to take a mosaic of images of the rover's underbelly. The MI, a short focus camera, was never designed to take these types of long-focus images. This technique was first tested by Opportunity and the test demonstrated that although the images will not be sharply focused, sufficient detail can be seen. Spirit's first MI mosaic of the underbelly was collected on Sol 1922 (May 30, 2009). The IDD then positioned the MI to collect a stack of images of a science soil target and placed the Mössbauer (MB) spectrometer on the science target for a multi-sol integration. Spirit collected a second underbelly image mosaic on Sol 1925 (June 2, 2009). This time the IDD extended further under the rover to capture more detail. The IDD then collected another MI stack of images of a science target followed by the placement of the Alpha-Particle X-ray Spectrometer (APXS) on the same target. Frames of a 360-degree color panorama, called the Calypso panorama, were collected. Targeted observations were made with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. The project was successful in restoring files to a computer server so that the surface system testbed (SSTB) rover at JPL could be operated. Soil simulant tests with the SSTB were performed on Bag House dust simulant. Unfortunately, the test results show that the Bag House dust is not suitable as a simulant for Spirit's situation. A new simulant is being formulated and will be tested shortly. As of Sol 1926, solar array energy production was generous at 884 watt-hours with atmospheric opacity (tau) of 0.458 and a dust factor of 0.772. Spirit's total odometry remains at 7,729.93 meters (4.80 miles). OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Southbound Progress - sols 1900-1905, May 29 - June 03, 2009: Opportunity has been busy driving south. The rover drove four out of the last six sols. The drives have all been blind drives with regular slip checks for progress. On Sols 1900, 1902 and 1904 (May 29, May 31 and June 2, 2009), Opportunity drove 66, 71 and 74 meters, (217, 233 and 243 feet), respectively. On Sol 1905 (June 3, 2009), the rover only accomplished about 30 meters (98 feet) of driving before the time ran out. Activities were very time-constrained on that sol. Motor currents in the right-front wheel continue to be elevated. Limiting the drive distance and employing regular, short, backward slip checks seems to mitigate further increases in right-front wheel current. As of Sol 1905 (June 3, 2009), Opportunity's solar array energy production is 413 watt-hours. Atmospheric opacity (tau) is 0.559. The dust factor is 0.542, meaning that 54.2 percent of sunlight hitting the solar array penetrates the layer of accumulated dust on the array. Opportunity's total odometry is 16,424.22 meters (10.2 miles). __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy?
It's similar to the cases of Pauline Aguss: http://meteorite-identification.com/mwnews/08172004a.htm and Siobhan Cowton: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2218755.stm Would be speculation, to ask for their motivation, whether really believe that they were hit by a meteorite or if they have reasons for telling so, the stones at least weren't meteorites. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von geo...@aol.com Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2009 22:29 An: bolino...@msn.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits 14 Year Old Girl? Boy? Why didn't you ask some one on the list, in Germany to try to fine out the truth!! Because no part of this story made any sense. It was as if no one was actually there to witness anything and it was all a fabricated fantasy. He might as well been describing a 6 foot tall invisible bunny. GeoZay **Dell Deals: Dont miss huge summer savings on popular laptops starting at $449. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221770187x1201425153/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215566131%3B37864407%3B i) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - June 10, 2009
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES June 10, 2009 o Small Crater Near Upper Reach of Mamers Valles http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010630_2115 o Of Polar Pits and Gullies http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_012873_1075 o Grand Canyon of Gale Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_012195_1750 o Light-Toned Hummock in Iani Region http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_012016_1800 o South Polar Region Cryptic Terrain http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_011946_0985 o Fans and Seasonal Polygonal Features http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_011792_0980 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Japan's Kaguya Spacecraft Impacts the Moon
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0906/10kaguya/ A smashing end for Japanese lunar orbiter mission BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW June 10, 2009 An Australian telescope observed the controlled crash of Japan's Kaguya lunar probe into the moon Wednesday, an important warm-up act before a NASA impactor attempts a similar feat in October with much higher stakes. [Images] The image above shows a sequence of four frames around the impact time, with a bright impact flash visible in the second frame, and faintly seen in the third and fourth. Credit: Anglo-Australian Telescope by Jeremy Bailey (University of New South Wales) and Steve Lee (Anglo-Australian Observatory) The impact was a planned violent ending to a highly successful $500 million mission that lasted nearly two years. Kaguya smacked into the moon at about 1825 GMT Wednesday, or about 3:25 a.m. Japan time Thursday. The spacecraft hit the moon at 80.4 degrees east longitude and 65.5 degrees south latitude, or near the lower right quadrant of the moon's near side as viewed from Earth, according to the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency. The Anglo-Australian Telescope's infrared wide-field camera and spectrograph, called IRIS2, detected the flash of the high-speed impact. A bright impact flash was seen close to the predicted time, said Jeremy Bailey, one of the observers. Bernard Foing, project manager of the European Space Agency's SMART 1 mission, alerted Australian scientists of Kaguya's impact. Congratulations for the successful observation of (the) Kaguya impact at the Anglo-Australian Telescope, Foing wrote in an email to Bailey and other scientists. Foing is executive director of the International Lunar Exploration Working Group, an organization established by the world's space agencies as a public forum for scientists. SMART 1 crashed into the moon in 2006 after a technology demonstration mission in lunar orbit. The Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope at Mauna Kea observed that event. Kaguya was five times heavier than SMART 1 and was aiming for a region in darkness near the terminator. Those conditions meant dust from the impact could be thrown into space and illuminated by sunlight. Scientists will analyze the imagery to look for evidence of a dust plume like the one produced by SMART 1, officials said. Kaguya was flying at a horizontal velocity of about 4,000 mph, but the spacecraft struck the moon at an angle of just 1 degree. The grazing impact was expected to diminish the crater size and dust cloud caused by the crash. The spacecraft, about the size of a sports utility vehicle, was remotely commanded to lower its orbit and hit the moon as its fuel supply dwindled. Officials said they wanted to end the mission before Kaguya ran out of fuel because that would eventually lead to an uncontrolled impact. At low altitude, a lot of fuel is needed to maintain the orbit, Foing said. We take advantage of the opportunity to create a well-characterized impact experiment. Kaguya, also named SELENE, launched in September 2007 and arrived at the moon about 20 days later to begin nearly two years of observations using 15 science payloads. The instruments included a stereo camera suite, an array of sensors designed to sniff for hydrogen, a laser altimeter that measured the shape of the moon, and a payload to probe the local radiation environment. Kaguya also carried a high definition camera that beamed back stunning video imagery of the moon. The spacecraft released two daughter satellites after entering lunar orbit. The 110-pound satellites helped Kaguya study the moon's gravity field and the lunar ionosphere. One of the probes was guided into the moon in February, and the other is still being operated. Wednesday's impact was similar to the demise of other lunar missions, including SMART 1. NASA's Lunar Prospector was ordered to plunge into a permanently shadowed crater near the moon's south pole in 1999. The Chinese Chang'e 1 orbiter ended its exploration of the moon in March with a lunar impact. Scientists must draw upon telescopes around the world to observe spacecraft impacts. Lunar Prospector's final moments were studied by the orbiting Hubble Space Telescope, the McDonald Observatory in Texas and the Keck Observatory in Hawaii. NASA is launching the first devoted lunar impactor next week to begin a four-month cruise through space that will culiminate with an October crash into a permanently shadowed crater at the moon's south pole. The mission is called the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS. The spacecraft carries a complex group of sensors that will give scientists their closest look of an impact as the probe's Centaur rocket smashes in the moon. Spectrometers aboard LCROSS will attempt to sense hydrogen and water molecules in the material ejected from the crater. The LCROSS impact sequence will also be observed by Hubble and an array of Earth-based telescopes. LCROSS will launch with the
[meteorite-list] WISE Mission Assembled and Preparing for Launch
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=2183 WISE Mission Assembled and Preparing for Launch Jet Propulsion Laboratory June 10, 2009 PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer, or WISE, has been assembled and is undergoing final preparations for a planned Nov. 1 launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif. The mission will survey the entire sky at infrared wavelengths, creating a cosmic clearinghouse of hundreds of millions of objects -- everything from the most luminous galaxies, to the nearest stars, to dark and potentially hazardous asteroids. The survey will be the most detailed to date in infrared light, with a sensitivity hundreds of times better than that of its predecessor, the Infrared Astronomical Satellite. Most of the sky has never been imaged at these infrared wavelengths with this kind of sensitivity, said Edward Wright, the mission's principal investigator at UCLA. We are sure to find many surprises. On May 17, the mission's science instrument was delivered to Ball Aerospace Technologies Corp. in Boulder, Colo., where it was attached to the spacecraft, built by Ball. The assembled unit was then blasted by sound to simulate the effects of launch. Tests for electronic noise in the detectors will be performed next. The science instrument is a 40-centimeter (16-inch) telescope with four infrared cameras. A cryostat, or cooler, uses frozen hydrogen to chill the sensitive megapixel infrared detectors down to seven Kelvin (minus 447 degrees Fahrenheit). The instrument was built by Space Dynamics Laboratory in Logan, Utah. Among expected finds from WISE are hundreds of thousands of asteroids in our solar system's asteroid belt, and hundreds of additional asteroids that come near Earth. Many asteroids have gone undetected because they don't reflect much visible light, but their heat makes them glow in infrared light that WISE can see. By cataloguing the objects, the mission will provide better estimates of their sizes, a critical step for assessing the risk associated with those that might impact Earth. We know that asteroids occasionally hit Earth, and we'd like to have a better idea of how many there are and their sizes, said Amy Mainzer of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., the mission's deputy project scientist. Whether they are dark or shiny, they all emit infrared light. They can't hide from WISE. The mission is also expected to find the coldest stars -- dim orbs called brown dwarfs that are too small to have ignited like our sun. Brown dwarfs are littered throughout our galaxy, but because they are so cool, they are often too faint to see in visible light. The infrared detectors on WISE will pick up the glow of roughly 1,000 brown dwarfs in our galaxy, including those coldest and closest to our solar system. In fact, astronomers say the mission could find a brown dwarf closer to us than the nearest known star, Proxima Centauri, located approximately 4 light-years away. We've been learning that brown dwarfs may have planets, so it's possible we'll find the closest planetary systems, said Peter Eisenhardt, the mission's project scientist at JPL. We should also find many hundreds of brown dwarfs colder than 480 degrees Celsius (900 degrees Fahrenheit), a group that as of now has only nine known members. In addition, the survey will reveal the universe's most luminous galaxies seen long ago in the dusty throes of their formation, disks of planet-forming material around stars, and other cosmic goodies. The observations will guide other infrared telescopes to the most interesting objects for follow-up studies. For example, NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope, the Herschel observatory just launched by ESA with significant NASA participation, and NASA's upcoming James Webb Space Telescope will direct their gaze at objects uncovered by WISE. WISE will lift off from Vandenberg aboard a United Launch Alliance Delta II rocket. It will orbit Earth, mapping the entire sky in six months after a one-month checkout period. Its frozen hydrogen is expected to last several months longer, allowing WISE to map much of the sky a second time and see what has changed. JPL manages the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer for NASA's Science Mission Directorate. The mission's principal investigator, Edward Wright, is at UCLA. The mission was developed under NASA's Explorer Program managed by the Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. The science instrument was built by the Space Dynamics Laboratory and the spacecraft was built by Ball Aerospace Technologies Corp. Science operations and data processing will take place at the Infrared Processing and Analysis Center at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. Caltech manages JPL for NASA. More information is online at http://wise.ssl.berkeley.edu/mission.html . The Infrared Astronomical Satellite, launched in 1983, was a joint mission between NASA, the United Kingdom and the Netherlands. Media
Re: [meteorite-list] Future Planetary Collision?
Hi, Charley, List, I'd just spotted the same press release (it turns out) on Space.com: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090610-planets-colllide.html The wobbly behavior of the Inner Solar System is not a new discovery. Here's a movie of the inner solar system's actual orbital evolution over the last 3,000,000 years: http://muller.lbl.gov/pages/innerplanets.html It can be downloaded directly from here: http://muller.lbl.gov/images/inner.mov The movie that you can view or download from this page is about 12 Mbytes long, and in .mov format. I used QuickTime Player (.mov is its native format) because you can step through it frame by frame (right/left arrows). Real Player and Windows Media Player (10) will also play it. You can open it in a browser window if you have the Quick Time plugin (takes a bit to download). The scale of the animation is not exaggerated or amplified. If you could sit in space and watch the inner solar system trace each orbit with a visible line, this is what you'd see. The units on the edges of the background plane are AU's. The site rather modestly says, Even if you are an expert, you may be surprised at what you see! Drunk drivers at NASCAR track would be a good title, if you pasted in some little cartoon racers with sponsor patches. Is this the renowned stability of the solar system we hear so much about? And, of course, it IS stable. Nothing has gone wrong in the last three million years nor for a long time before that (or has it?). Still, everything just wobbles like crazy... Currently, Venus can approach as close as 24.7 million miles and Mars as close as 34.7 million miles, but it would seem that in the past (and future too) their close approaches could be as near as roughly half that distance. I found this movie to be utterly fascinating (could be just me). After a few times through it, I would concentrate on just watching one planet at a time: Mercury slides back and forth like it was shifting the Sun from one elliptical focus point to the other; Mars' orbit expands and contracts; Venus and the Earth pull up close and flirt with resonance lock; they all rock back and forth. Venus is the one that worries me. The orbit of Venus has peculiarities, too. Venus's year is 224.7 Earth days. Venus's day is 243.01 Earth days. But because Venus's axial rotation is backward measured against the Sun and stars, the Venusian solar day is only 116.75 Earth days long. Of course, we could just as well not describe Venus's rotation as backward, but just consider that Venus rotates normally but with its axis turned completely upside-down, by 177.4 degrees! However you look at it, Venus is the only body of any size in the solar system to rotate backward. If you regard normal rotation as required, as it is, by most theories of solar system formation, then you have to invoke a Big Whack to turn Venus upside-down! That would have to be one heck of a whack, too. The energy transfer would be so great it's hard to imagine the planet could have survived it. So, there's another theory: that the solar tides on the thick atmosphere have braked Venus down to a standstill and are now spinning'er up in the backward direction. Myself, I think the atmospheric torque is just not big enough to do the job, and since what little we know about the surface of Venus suggests that there are virtually no winds at all at the surface (and you have to have wind to apply atmospheric torque to the surface), I think it's hooey. The math is complex and not entirely convincing. The position of Venus in the Earth's sky cycles in the time it takes Venus to lap the Earth in its orbit, 593.92 Earth days, the synodic period. Oddly, that period is almost 5 Venus days, to be exact, 5.0014 Venus days. This means, annoyingly, that when you're trying to radar map Venus from the Earth at the close approach when you have the highest resolution, you're looking at almost exactly the same patch of Venus you were looking at the last time! Over and over again. The synodic period of Venus, 593.92 Earth days, is almost exactly 8/5ths of an Earth year, so that every eight Earth years the positions of Earth and Venus line up very closely with only a tiny amount of drift in position from cycle to cycle. Every 152 Venus synodic cycles of 593.92 Earth days, the line-up returns to its original precise positions, creating a long cycle of precise repetitions of the positions of Venus and the Earth. This long cycle takes 243.01 Earth years. Now, if the number 243.01 seems familiar, it's because it happens to be the length of Venus's axial rotation in Earth days, the sidereal period! The extreme regularity of this cycle of Venusian positions with respect to the Earth creates the long and precisely repeating cycle of Venus's transits of the Sun, meaningless except that these mark the timing of the Sun's passage across the nodes of the mutual plane of Earth's and Venus's orbits. So, how many
Re: [meteorite-list] Future Planetary Collision?
Hi Sterling, Thanks for the links and also all the information you provided. The movie is astounding to say the least but even more amazing to me is the spooky part about the (non-official) resonance between Venus and The Earth. Wow! Thank you very much for the in depth explanation-I'm sure it took you a lot of time and trouble to put it together and I really appreciate the information. I learn a lot from this list! Best regards, Charley Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's try elephants ! Hannibal Sterling K. Webb wrote: Hi, Charley, List, I'd just spotted the same press release (it turns out) on Space.com: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090610-planets-colllide.html The wobbly behavior of the Inner Solar System is not a new discovery. Here's a movie of the inner solar system's actual orbital evolution over the last 3,000,000 years: http://muller.lbl.gov/pages/innerplanets.html It can be downloaded directly from here: http://muller.lbl.gov/images/inner.mov The movie that you can view or download from this page is about 12 Mbytes long, and in .mov format. I used QuickTime Player (.mov is its native format) because you can step through it frame by frame (right/left arrows). Real Player and Windows Media Player (10) will also play it. You can open it in a browser window if you have the Quick Time plugin (takes a bit to download). The scale of the animation is not exaggerated or amplified. If you could sit in space and watch the inner solar system trace each orbit with a visible line, this is what you'd see. The units on the edges of the background plane are AU's. The site rather modestly says, Even if you are an expert, you may be surprised at what you see! Drunk drivers at NASCAR track would be a good title, if you pasted in some little cartoon racers with sponsor patches. Is this the renowned stability of the solar system we hear so much about? And, of course, it IS stable. Nothing has gone wrong in the last three million years nor for a long time before that (or has it?). Still, everything just wobbles like crazy... Currently, Venus can approach as close as 24.7 million miles and Mars as close as 34.7 million miles, but it would seem that in the past (and future too) their close approaches could be as near as roughly half that distance. I found this movie to be utterly fascinating (could be just me). After a few times through it, I would concentrate on just watching one planet at a time: Mercury slides back and forth like it was shifting the Sun from one elliptical focus point to the other; Mars' orbit expands and contracts; Venus and the Earth pull up close and flirt with resonance lock; they all rock back and forth. Venus is the one that worries me. The orbit of Venus has peculiarities, too. Venus's year is 224.7 Earth days. Venus's day is 243.01 Earth days. But because Venus's axial rotation is backward measured against the Sun and stars, the Venusian solar day is only 116.75 Earth days long. Of course, we could just as well not describe Venus's rotation as backward, but just consider that Venus rotates normally but with its axis turned completely upside-down, by 177.4 degrees! However you look at it, Venus is the only body of any size in the solar system to rotate backward. If you regard normal rotation as required, as it is, by most theories of solar system formation, then you have to invoke a Big Whack to turn Venus upside-down! That would have to be one heck of a whack, too. The energy transfer would be so great it's hard to imagine the planet could have survived it. So, there's another theory: that the solar tides on the thick atmosphere have braked Venus down to a standstill and are now spinning'er up in the backward direction. Myself, I think the atmospheric torque is just not big enough to do the job, and since what little we know about the surface of Venus suggests that there are virtually no winds at all at the surface (and you have to have wind to apply atmospheric torque to the surface), I think it's hooey. The math is complex and not entirely convincing. The position of Venus in the Earth's sky cycles in the time it takes Venus to lap the Earth in its orbit, 593.92 Earth days, the synodic period. Oddly, that period is almost 5 Venus days, to be exact, 5.0014 Venus days. This means, annoyingly, that when you're trying to radar map Venus from the Earth at the close approach when you have the highest resolution, you're looking at almost exactly the same patch of Venus you were looking at the last time! Over and over again. The synodic period of Venus, 593.92 Earth days, is almost exactly 8/5ths of an Earth year, so that every eight Earth years the positions of Earth and Venus line up very closely with only a tiny amount of drift in position from cycle to cycle. Every 152 Venus synodic cycles of 593.92 Earth days, the
Re: [meteorite-list] Military intelligence-- still an oxymoron.
Who knows what justification was used but I've got a pretty good idea I know what the real reason is. For 4 months I've had weekly phone calls with AF Personnel all over the globe and against all belief I very much suspected that something had gone dark. As to the article someone somewhere in the Gouffment will have issued a press release--tranparency and all that. Rhymes with AFLAC I expect. Then again I might have prompted it by making all those Freedom of Information Act fireball data requests. In the (g)olden days of fireball reports, the data was sanitized (like GPS signals used to be deliberately degraded) to make the data useful but to not to give away the collecting asset's (RID)capabilities. Dr Peter Brown used to post the releases but rumor has it he moved to a foreign but more meteoritically progressive country...Canada I think it was. This will probably get me a visit from a Yo'Mama Administration Homey-Land Dark Suit-Squad but what the heck!... I estimate by this day and age we can probably count nosecone rivets during assent on the other side of the globe and detect when an un-named Lunatic National Leader of an un-named Northern Division of a divided country in Asia lights up his weed bong. Elton --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Fries, Marc D marc.d.fr...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: My favorite part is this: The upshot: Space rocks that explode in the atmosphere are now classified. Yeah, that's it. You're not allowed to know that meteors exist. Why, that makes perfect sense, and I'm sure that's exactly how the rule change was phrased. It seems more likely that someone decided that a clever observer could discern important details about our technical capabilities from the information handed out to meteor watchers and decided to clamp down. It may be a temporary change while they review the policy, but you can't tell from that magnificent piece of professional journalism. Magnificent. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites down?
Hi Listees! About 2 hours ago, I was uploading photos and entries into my collection on the Encyclopedia of Meteorites site, and then I stopped to go run an errand. When I came back about 10 minutes ago, I tried going back to the Encyclopedia site and continue entering my collection - now the site is giving some weird error message. Is anyone else having the same problem? Is it leftover bugs from the switchover in software? BTW, the new interface looks and behaves great in all other respects. Nice job to Norbert and crew for pulling it off. :) Best regards and clear skies, MikeG -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites down?
Looks like the asp is gone for login... I tried to access the root and got an error... it could be because it expects the asp, and they never added a redirect for the default... Server Error in '/' Application. Required permissions cannot be acquired. Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.Security.Policy.PolicyException: Required permissions cannot be acquired. Source Error: An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below. - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites down? Hi Listees! About 2 hours ago, I was uploading photos and entries into my collection on the Encyclopedia of Meteorites site, and then I stopped to go run an errand. When I came back about 10 minutes ago, I tried going back to the Encyclopedia site and continue entering my collection - now the site is giving some weird error message. Is anyone else having the same problem? Is it leftover bugs from the switchover in software? BTW, the new interface looks and behaves great in all other respects. Nice job to Norbert and crew for pulling it off. :) Best regards and clear skies, MikeG -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites down?
Mike, Sean, and List The new Encyclopedia of Meteorites is still in the final configuration stages and you should have received the following message: Web site is currently off line. We are moving the website to our new hosting provider. It will take a few days. We expect be back with our new version on June 15, 2009. Thank you for understanding! The site should be up and fully functional soon! Bob Falls Part of the crew working on new Encyclopedia of Meteorites -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Sean T. Murray Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:48 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites down? Looks like the asp is gone for login... I tried to access the root and got an error... it could be because it expects the asp, and they never added a redirect for the default... Server Error in '/' Application. Required permissions cannot be acquired. Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.Security.Policy.PolicyException: Required permissions cannot be acquired. Source Error: An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below. - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites down? Hi Listees! About 2 hours ago, I was uploading photos and entries into my collection on the Encyclopedia of Meteorites site, and then I stopped to go run an errand. When I came back about 10 minutes ago, I tried going back to the Encyclopedia site and continue entering my collection - now the site is giving some weird error message. Is anyone else having the same problem? Is it leftover bugs from the switchover in software? BTW, the new interface looks and behaves great in all other respects. Nice job to Norbert and crew for pulling it off. :) Best regards and clear skies, MikeG -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay user name change.
Hi to all, I have changed my ebay user ID. It is now WanderingStarMeteorites the star_wars_coiiector is not being used anymore. Just to let everyone know. When you want to see what I have for sale, you will now need to use this link: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Hope everyone is having a good day, We have had over 4 inches of rain here today, the walmart parking lot had 3 inches of standing water earlier! Greg C. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - June 11, 2009
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