Re: [meteorite-list] new arizona meteorite/ freebies (AD)

2009-07-20 Thread Greg Catterton

I have to agree. Steve has always been very polite and kind to me and in my 
opinion does not deserve such remarks. 

Greg C.

--- On Tue, 7/21/09, starsandsco...@aol.com  wrote:

> From: starsandsco...@aol.com 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new arizona meteorite/ freebies (AD)
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 12:17 AM
> Hi list,  This is Tom
> Phillips.  I  often post to the list just using my
> 
> first name so I felt I should make this  clear. 
> This last post (signed "Tom") 
> was not from me, I am not such an  ass!
> 
> Tom Phillips
> 
> In a message dated 7/20/2009 7:52:43 P.M.  Mountain
> Daylight Time, 
> tommy2...@hvc.rr.com
> writes:
> 
> "Hi list.It was a  great pics of the day with Dr. Jack
> and his  
> assistant getting work  done on the new
> meteorite.Again congrats jack  
> on a job well done.I  have 4 new meteorites to
> givaway.I will tell you  
> what they are when  you chime in.Be fast or be last.
> Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!  "
> 
> 
> Wait, didn't you leave this list for good not long 
> ago?
> 
> God(tm) almighty someone stop this guy..I will
> NEVER  buy  
> ANYTHING from you Steve. EVER.
> 
> Go  away.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] new arizona meteorite/ freebies (AD)

2009-07-20 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi list,  This is Tom Phillips.  I  often post to the list just using my 
first name so I felt I should make this  clear.  This last post (signed "Tom") 
was not from me, I am not such an  ass!

Tom Phillips

In a message dated 7/20/2009 7:52:43 P.M.  Mountain Daylight Time, 
tommy2...@hvc.rr.com writes:

"Hi list.It was a  great pics of the day with Dr. Jack and his  
assistant getting work  done on the new meteorite.Again congrats jack  
on a job well done.I  have 4 new meteorites to givaway.I will tell you  
what they are when  you chime in.Be fast or be last.
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!  "


Wait, didn't you leave this list for good not long  ago?

God(tm) almighty someone stop this guy..I will NEVER  buy  
ANYTHING from you Steve. EVER.

Go  away.

Tom




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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-20 Thread Michael Farmer
Just trying to turn down the heat on the list after interesting couple  
of weeks. We thought it would generate a few laughs.

Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone
Michael


On Jul 20, 2009, at 12:01 PM, John Gwilliam  wrote:

Anyone who didn't figure out that this was a prank from the get go  
needs to go buy a hat with the word "WHOOOSHABLE" embroidered on the  
front...or on the back...depending on who you are.


Best,

John Gwilliam

At 07:43 PM 7/19/2009, Mark Grossman wrote:
I guess the issue is that everyone expects Mike to act a certain  
way - not judging good or bad here at all - and when he switches  
gears, it catches some of us off guard!


I'm willing to bet there were several list members who heard that  
"whoosh" over their heads!


Mark Grossman

- Original Message - From: "michael cottingham" >

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!



Hello,

Of course it is a joke, everyone knows that Acme brand tracking  
gizmos are useless. The best tracking devices are those made by  
"Tom Brown"  The "Tracker".


Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
On Jul 19, 2009, at 7:23 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote:


Mike,

Did you call the cops?

Did you fill up a police report?

Send me a copy of that police report.

And if it is a joke, I'll expect an apology.


Anne M. Black
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In a message dated 7/19/2009 7:04:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
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I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to  
depart  for
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an   
illicit GPS

tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep  
me  out of
the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of   
inmportant

data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any   
information on

this object please call me ASAP.

http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot  
zone.

Camping at my gate is futile.
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Re: [meteorite-list] new arizona meteorite/ freebies (AD)

2009-07-20 Thread Tom Randall (KB2SMS)


"Hi list.It was a great pics of the day with Dr. Jack and his  
assistant getting work done on the new meteorite.Again congrats jack  
on a job well done.I have 4 new meteorites to givaway.I will tell you  
what they are when you chime in.Be fast or be last.

 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! "


Wait, didn't you leave this list for good not long ago?

 God(tm) almighty someone stop this guy..I will NEVER buy  
ANYTHING from you Steve. EVER.


Go away.

Tom




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[meteorite-list] New NASA Images Indicate Object Hits Jupiter

2009-07-20 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-112

New NASA Images Indicate Object Hits Jupiter
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
July 20, 2009

[Image]
Jupiter This image shows a large impact shown on the bottom left on
Jupiter's south polar region captured on July 20, 2009, by NASA's
Infrared Telescope Facility in Mauna Kea, Hawaii. Credit:
NASA/JPL/Infrared Telescope Facility

Scientists have found evidence that another object has bombarded
Jupiter, exactly 15 years after the first impacts by the comet
Shoemaker-Levy 9.

Following up on a tip by an amateur astronomer that a new dark "scar"
had suddenly appeared on Jupiter, this morning between 3 and 9 a.m. PDT
(6 a.m. and noon EDT) scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in
Pasadena, Calif., using NASA's Infrared Telescope Facility at the summit
of Mauna Kea, Hawaii, gathered evidence indicating an impact.

New infrared images show the likely impact point was near the south
polar region, with a visibly dark "scar" and bright upwelling particles
in the upper atmosphere detected in near-infrared wavelengths, and a
warming of the upper troposphere with possible extra emission from
ammonia gas detected at mid-infrared wavelengths.

"We were extremely lucky to be seeing Jupiter at exactly the right time,
the right hour, the right side of Jupiter to witness the event. We
couldn't have planned it better," said Glenn Orton, a scientist at JPL.

Orton and his team of astronomers kicked into gear early in the morning
and haven't stopped tracking the planet. They are downloading data now
and are working to get additional observing time on this and other
telescopes.

This image was taken at 1.65 microns, a wavelength sensitive to sunlight
reflected from high in Jupiter's atmosphere, and it shows both the
bright center of the scar (bottom left) and the debris to its northwest
(upper left).

"It could be the impact of a comet, but we don't know for sure yet,"
said Orton. "It's been a whirlwind of a day, and this on the anniversary
of the Shoemaker-Levy 9 and Apollo anniversaries is amazing."

Shoemaker-Levy 9 was a comet that had been seen to break into many
pieces before the pieces hit Jupiter in 1994.

Leigh Fletcher, a NASA postdoctoral student at JPL who worked with Orton
during these latest observations said, "Given the rarity of these
events, it's extremely exciting to be involved in these observations.
These are the most exciting observations I've seen in my five years of
observing the outer planets!"

The observations were made possible in large measure by the
extraordinary efforts of the Infrared Telescope Facility staff,
including telescope operator William Golisch, who adroitly moved three
instruments in and out of the field during the short time the scar was
visible on the planet, providing the wide wavelength coverage.

JPL is managed for NASA by the California Institute of Technology in
Pasadena.

Carolina Martinez 818-354-9382
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
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Re: [meteorite-list] NOT AN AD: Being Hacked Sale!!!

2009-07-20 Thread Meteorites USA

Hey Bill,

Your comment isn't worth the time it took me to write this.

.|..

Eric
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Re: [meteorite-list] NOT AN AD: Being Hacked Sale!!!

2009-07-20 Thread bill kies

40 websites and you still feel the need to bother with our humble list? This 
form of advertising is little more than panhandling. I need money to go 
meteorite hunting, tiny tim needs an operation... Thanks a lot cottingham. Give 
me one good reason why we should give a rats ass about your problem and I'm not 
talking about bandwidth. 
 
THIS IS NOT CRITICISM.
 

> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:13:39 -0700
> From: e...@meteoritesusa.com
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] NOT AN AD: Being Hacked Sale!!!
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am dealing with a hacker on my server (ALL 40 of my websites are up 
> and down and email is spotty) as I am writing this email! I am currently 
> being hacked and this sale is only because of this because it will cost 
> me $1 per GB of bandwidth overage usage fees as soon as it reaches my 
> bandwidth limit. Every minute that goes by is costing me money
> 
> I've spent the last 4 to 5 days trying to stay one step ahead of this 
> hacker, and he keeps leeching the bandwidth off my server. I've done 
> everything I know how to do and spent hours on the phone with my server 
> vendor, but they are of no help as it seems the extent of this hack 
> extends into the legal realm.
> 
> In other words the hacker is breaking the law by essentially causing a 
> DoS (denial of service) by using up all my server memory and bandwidth 
> and can be prosecuted if we are able to determine where this hack is 
> coming from!
> 
> The money generated from this sale is going to bandwidth overage fees, 
> upgrading of services through my vendor, and to hire a network systems 
> administrator, and attorney. I will be seeking legal action and 
> prosecuting to the full extent of the law possible!
> 
> If anyone out there has is a system administrator or can refer me to one 
> that might be able to help I would greatly appreciate it. This must stop 
> now. The bandwidth being used is in the hundreds of Gigabytes per day! 
> Multiply that by $1 per GB and this can get very expensive VERY FAST!
> 
> Again, if anyone out there in meteorite land is a sys admin or knows 
> someone who might be able to help I would be forever grateful. I'm a 
> webmaster and web design artist/photographer. I can run servers, install 
> server related software, and run 40 websites at a time, but I'm not 
> hacker, and this is beyond my knowledge level.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide. You can reach me at 
> 904-236-5394 and I'd be glad to speak with anyone who might be able to help.
> 
> THANKS!
> 
> ---
> http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm
> NOTE: If you cannot see this page please EMAIL ME off-list!!!
> 
> Sorry to bother but we need to move some pieces quick fast and in a hurry...
> 
> First $599 take this 4963g Whole specimen: 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-Premium-Chondrite-Huge-Whole-Stone-4963g_W0QQitemZ250468896022
> 
> This is a "Must Move Now" item. Paypal or Credit Card over the phone 
> only right now.
> Will ship this afternoon.
> 
> Also, I've got a large lot of some slices and a Huge corner cut of NWA 
> 1794 - 543.7g Total weight $249 shipped for all.
> 
> 329.1g Canyon Diablo "Beautiful Sculptured Piece" - $199 from my 
> personal collection!
> 2.1g Achondrite from my personal collection!
> 2.6g Achondrite from my personal collection!
> 
> View all special sale pieces here: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm
> 
> Also take a look at our other auctions. I will consider reasonable offers!
> 
> Regards,
> Eric Wichman
> Meteorites USA
> 904-236-5394
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Classification of the Arizona Fall

2009-07-20 Thread Frank Cressy

Hi Greg,

1933 deserves the moniker as the "Year of the Fall".  I counted 18 falls 
worldwide and with six falls occurring in the US.  Both numbers include 
Williard (b), a possible witnessed fall.  The US falls are Pasamonte, Cherokee 
Springs, Athens, Williard (b, Sioux County, and Malaga.  Pasamonte, Williard 
(b), and Malaga all fell in New Mexico. So a few more falls have to occur in 
2009 to for the record to be broken.  
In second place is 1868, when thirteen falls were recorded worldwide.  In 1938, 
four falls were recorded in the US for that number two position.

Cheers,

Frank

PS: Enjoying the heat here in BAKErsfield?

--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Greg Stanley  wrote:

> From: Greg Stanley 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Classification of the Arizona Fall
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 9:54 AM
> 
> 
> List Members:
> 
> Does anyone know if the Arizona fall has been classified
> yet?  I remember seeing it may be a possible H5.
> 
> Also, any provisional name?  I can understand if this
> is still secret as it may give info to the location, but
> still was just wondering.
> 
> Also, what has been the most number of falls recovered in
> one year in the US? and worldwide?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg S
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Re: [meteorite-list] NOT AN AD: Being Hacked Sale!!!

2009-07-20 Thread Meteorites USA
HACKER UPDATE: I'm working hard on this server issue. We're narrowing it 
down! Thankfully my brother has come to the rescue but even he (a 
network admin) is perplexed at how this guy is hacking the server.


Thanks everyone for the calls and emails! I appreciate it! The BIG 4963g 
stone and the Canyon Diablo is SOLD. Thanks! Still have the achondrites 
and 543.7g lot of NWA 1794...


Once we figure this out I will post the results of the exploit/hack that 
is being used against me right now so other will not have to face the 
same infuriating frustration that I'm going through right now.


Again, if you know of anyone, a software program, or anything that could 
help (besides a good strong drink) I'd appreciate any help I can get!


Regards,
Eric




Meteorites USA wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am dealing with a hacker on my server (ALL 40 of my websites are up 
and down and email is spotty) as I am writing this email! I am 
currently being hacked and this sale is only because of this because 
it will cost me $1 per GB of bandwidth overage usage fees as soon as 
it reaches my bandwidth limit. Every minute that goes by is costing me 
money


I've spent the last 4 to 5 days trying to stay one step ahead of this 
hacker, and he keeps leeching the bandwidth off my server. I've done 
everything I know how to do and spent hours on the phone with my 
server vendor, but they are of no help as it seems the extent of this 
hack extends into the legal realm.


In other words the hacker is breaking the law by essentially causing a 
DoS (denial of service) by using up all my server memory and bandwidth 
and can be prosecuted if we are able to determine where this hack is 
coming from!


The money generated from this sale is going to bandwidth overage fees, 
upgrading of services through my vendor, and to hire a network systems 
administrator, and attorney. I will be seeking legal action and 
prosecuting to the full extent of the law possible!


If anyone out there has is a system administrator or can refer me to 
one that might be able to help I would greatly appreciate it. This 
must stop now. The bandwidth being used is in the hundreds of 
Gigabytes per day! Multiply that by $1 per GB and this can get very 
expensive VERY FAST!


Again, if anyone out there in meteorite land is a sys admin or knows 
someone who might be able to help I would be forever grateful. I'm a 
webmaster and web design artist/photographer. I can run servers, 
install server related software, and run 40 websites at a time, but 
I'm not hacker, and this is beyond my knowledge level.


Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide. You can reach me 
at 904-236-5394 and I'd be glad to speak with anyone who might be able 
to help.


THANKS!

---
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm
NOTE: If you cannot see this page please EMAIL ME off-list!!!

Sorry to bother but we need to move some pieces quick fast and in a 
hurry...


First $599 take this 4963g Whole specimen: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-Premium-Chondrite-Huge-Whole-Stone-4963g_W0QQitemZ250468896022 



This is a "Must Move Now" item. Paypal or Credit Card over the phone 
only right now.

Will ship this afternoon.

Also, I've got a large lot of some slices and a Huge corner cut of NWA 
1794 - 543.7g Total weight $249 shipped for all.


329.1g Canyon Diablo "Beautiful Sculptured Piece" - $199  from my 
personal collection!

2.1g Achondrite from my personal collection!
2.6g Achondrite from my personal collection!

View all special sale pieces here: 
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm


Also take a look at our other auctions. I will consider reasonable 
offers!


Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA
904-236-5394



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[meteorite-list] Infra-red images of the Jupiter impact

2009-07-20 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/jup-20090720.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17491-jupiter-sports-new-bruise-from-impact.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] NOT AN AD: Being Hacked Sale!!!

2009-07-20 Thread Meteorites USA

Hey Greg, MikeG, List

I've tried tracing this through SSH with netstat and lsof and lots of 
other linux commands and nothings is working.


I can't seem to find out where the vulnerability is.

Oh and my server is a Virtual Dedicated Server, meaning I am the server 
admin. This is NOT normal hosting, or hotlinking bandwidth leeching. If 
it were that would be a simple fix. My server vendor will NOT help me 
with this. It is not their problem as the vulnerability MAY have been 
installed by me on the server using a third party script like my 
Wordpress Blog software written in PHP.


Warning to Geoff Notkin and anyone else out there that uses Wordpress, 
Zen Cart, OS Commerce, PHP Pro Bid, Wikimedia, or any other third party 
PHP script that uses a MySQL database, please check your systems. This 
is happening to me now as I write this, but it could happen to you too.


Regards,
Eric








Greg Catterton wrote:

Hey, I used to have some experience in this field and may be able to lend a 
hand.
Have you tried doing a trace? It sounds like your bandwidth is being 
redirected. Are you getting alot of spam? Have you done anything recently out 
of the norm (links, spam, unknown docs etc)? Call me and I can try to get this 
figured out.

Greg

--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Meteorites USA  wrote:

  

From: Meteorites USA 
Subject: [meteorite-list] NOT AN AD: Being Hacked Sale!!!
To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 6:13 PM
Hi everyone,

I am dealing with a hacker on my server (ALL 40 of my
websites are up and down and email is spotty) as I am
writing this email! I am currently being hacked and this
sale is only because of this because it will cost me $1 per
GB of bandwidth overage usage fees as soon as it reaches my
bandwidth limit. Every minute that goes by is costing me
money

I've spent the last 4 to 5 days trying to stay one step
ahead of this hacker, and he keeps leeching the bandwidth
off my server. I've done everything I know how to do and
spent hours on the phone with my server vendor, but they are
of no help as it seems the extent of this hack extends into
the legal realm.

In other words the hacker is breaking the law by
essentially causing a DoS (denial of service) by using up
all my server memory and bandwidth and can be prosecuted if
we are able to determine where this hack is coming from!

The money generated from this sale is going to bandwidth
overage fees, upgrading of services through my vendor, and
to hire a network systems administrator, and attorney. I
will be seeking legal action and prosecuting to the full
extent of the law possible!

If anyone out there has is a system administrator or can
refer me to one that might be able to help I would greatly
appreciate it. This must stop now. The bandwidth being used
is in the hundreds of Gigabytes per day! Multiply that by $1
per GB and this can get very expensive VERY FAST!

Again, if anyone out there in meteorite land is a sys admin
or knows someone who might be able to help I would be
forever grateful. I'm a webmaster and web design
artist/photographer. I can run servers, install server
related software, and run 40 websites at a time, but I'm not
hacker, and this is beyond my knowledge level.

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide. You
can reach me at 904-236-5394 and I'd be glad to speak with
anyone who might be able to help.

THANKS!

---
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm
NOTE: If you cannot see this page please EMAIL ME
off-list!!!

Sorry to bother but we need to move some pieces quick fast
and in a hurry...

First $599 take this 4963g Whole specimen: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-Premium-Chondrite-Huge-Whole-Stone-4963g_W0QQitemZ250468896022

This is a "Must Move Now" item. Paypal or Credit Card over
the phone only right now.
Will ship this afternoon.

Also, I've got a large lot of some slices and a Huge corner
cut of NWA 1794 - 543.7g Total weight $249 shipped for all.

329.1g Canyon Diablo "Beautiful Sculptured Piece" -
$199  from my personal collection!
2.1g Achondrite from my personal collection!
2.6g Achondrite from my personal collection!

View all special sale pieces here: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm

Also take a look at our other auctions. I will consider
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Re: [meteorite-list] NOT AN AD: Being Hacked Sale!!!

2009-07-20 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
This sucks Eric, but your host should not be charging you for this -
it's their security that was breached.  They should bear the burden of
the bandwidth charges.   It's like a busted water pipe on the city
side of the line - they don't charge the homeowner for the lost water.

Best regards and good luck,

MikeG


On 7/20/09, Meteorites USA  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am dealing with a hacker on my server (ALL 40 of my websites are up
> and down and email is spotty) as I am writing this email! I am currently
> being hacked and this sale is only because of this because it will cost
> me $1 per GB of bandwidth overage usage fees as soon as it reaches my
> bandwidth limit. Every minute that goes by is costing me money
>
> I've spent the last 4 to 5 days trying to stay one step ahead of this
> hacker, and he keeps leeching the bandwidth off my server. I've done
> everything I know how to do and spent hours on the phone with my server
> vendor, but they are of no help as it seems the extent of this hack
> extends into the legal realm.
>
> In other words the hacker is breaking the law by essentially causing a
> DoS (denial of service) by using up all my server memory and bandwidth
> and can be prosecuted if we are able to determine where this hack is
> coming from!
>
> The money generated from this sale is going to bandwidth overage fees,
> upgrading of services through my vendor, and to hire a network systems
> administrator, and attorney. I will be seeking legal action and
> prosecuting to the full extent of the law possible!
>
> If anyone out there has is a system administrator or can refer me to one
> that might be able to help I would greatly appreciate it. This must stop
> now. The bandwidth being used is in the hundreds of Gigabytes per day!
> Multiply that by $1 per GB and this can get very expensive VERY FAST!
>
> Again, if anyone out there in meteorite land is a sys admin or knows
> someone who might be able to help I would be forever grateful. I'm a
> webmaster and web design artist/photographer. I can run servers, install
> server related software, and run 40 websites at a time, but I'm not
> hacker, and this is beyond my knowledge level.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide. You can reach me at
> 904-236-5394 and I'd be glad to speak with anyone who might be able to help.
>
> THANKS!
>
> ---
> http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm
> NOTE: If you cannot see this page please EMAIL ME off-list!!!
>
> Sorry to bother but we need to move some pieces quick fast and in a hurry...
>
> First $599 take this 4963g Whole specimen:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-Premium-Chondrite-Huge-Whole-Stone-4963g_W0QQitemZ250468896022
>
> This is a "Must Move Now" item. Paypal or Credit Card over the phone
> only right now.
> Will ship this afternoon.
>
> Also, I've got a large lot of some slices and a Huge corner cut of NWA
> 1794 - 543.7g Total weight $249 shipped for all.
>
> 329.1g Canyon Diablo "Beautiful Sculptured Piece" - $199  from my
> personal collection!
> 2.1g Achondrite from my personal collection!
> 2.6g Achondrite from my personal collection!
>
> View all special sale pieces here: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm
>
> Also take a look at our other auctions. I will consider reasonable offers!
>
> Regards,
> Eric Wichman
> Meteorites USA
> 904-236-5394
>
>
>
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[meteorite-list] NOT AN AD: Being Hacked Sale!!!

2009-07-20 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi everyone,

I am dealing with a hacker on my server (ALL 40 of my websites are up 
and down and email is spotty) as I am writing this email! I am currently 
being hacked and this sale is only because of this because it will cost 
me $1 per GB of bandwidth overage usage fees as soon as it reaches my 
bandwidth limit. Every minute that goes by is costing me money


I've spent the last 4 to 5 days trying to stay one step ahead of this 
hacker, and he keeps leeching the bandwidth off my server. I've done 
everything I know how to do and spent hours on the phone with my server 
vendor, but they are of no help as it seems the extent of this hack 
extends into the legal realm.


In other words the hacker is breaking the law by essentially causing a 
DoS (denial of service) by using up all my server memory and bandwidth 
and can be prosecuted if we are able to determine where this hack is 
coming from!


The money generated from this sale is going to bandwidth overage fees, 
upgrading of services through my vendor, and to hire a network systems 
administrator, and attorney. I will be seeking legal action and 
prosecuting to the full extent of the law possible!


If anyone out there has is a system administrator or can refer me to one 
that might be able to help I would greatly appreciate it. This must stop 
now. The bandwidth being used is in the hundreds of Gigabytes per day! 
Multiply that by $1 per GB and this can get very expensive VERY FAST!


Again, if anyone out there in meteorite land is a sys admin or knows 
someone who might be able to help I would be forever grateful. I'm a 
webmaster and web design artist/photographer. I can run servers, install 
server related software, and run 40 websites at a time, but I'm not 
hacker, and this is beyond my knowledge level.


Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide. You can reach me at 
904-236-5394 and I'd be glad to speak with anyone who might be able to help.


THANKS!

---
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm
NOTE: If you cannot see this page please EMAIL ME off-list!!!

Sorry to bother but we need to move some pieces quick fast and in a hurry...

First $599 take this 4963g Whole specimen: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-Premium-Chondrite-Huge-Whole-Stone-4963g_W0QQitemZ250468896022


This is a "Must Move Now" item. Paypal or Credit Card over the phone 
only right now.

Will ship this afternoon.

Also, I've got a large lot of some slices and a Huge corner cut of NWA 
1794 - 543.7g Total weight $249 shipped for all.


329.1g Canyon Diablo "Beautiful Sculptured Piece" - $199  from my 
personal collection!

2.1g Achondrite from my personal collection!
2.6g Achondrite from my personal collection!

View all special sale pieces here: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/special.htm

Also take a look at our other auctions. I will consider reasonable offers!

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA
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Re: [meteorite-list] Commemorative Book-First "Manned" Lunar Landing

2009-07-20 Thread Peter Marmet
Hi All,

just in case you don't want to spend $ 1000.00 - here you can see the
whole book!

http://kuerzer.de/VdO8WaFkS

Click on the red "Durchblättern" link under the book pict on the right!

Peter




2009/7/20 Thomas Webb :
>
> List,
> I'm a little slow today.  Of course I was referring to the first manned lunar 
> landing, Apollo 11, of which today is the 40th anniversary.
> Thomas
>
>
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[meteorite-list] Commemorative Book-First "Manned" Lunar Landing

2009-07-20 Thread Thomas Webb

List,
I'm a little slow today.  Of course I was referring to the first manned lunar 
landing, Apollo 11, of which today is the 40th anniversary.
Thomas


  
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[meteorite-list] Commemorative Book-First Lunar Landing-Link

2009-07-20 Thread Thomas Webb

Here's the link. 

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/books/the-epic-moonbook-is-out-of-this-worldand-so-is-the-price-1830332.html
 


  
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[meteorite-list] Commemorative Book-First Lunar Landing

2009-07-20 Thread Thomas Webb

List Members,
For those of you who are very well heeled, here's a nice book to commemorate 
the first lunar landing.
Do any of you know who provided the meteorites for the last 12 copies?
My best,
Thomas


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Picture Of Steve Arnold

2009-07-20 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Awesome scope and wedge.  What model SCT is that?

And what refractor is that riding piggyback on it?

Best regards,

MikeG


On 7/20/09, Mike Hankey  wrote:
> I had a friend take a few pics while Steve was at my house a couple of
> weeks ago. I just got around to looking at the pics today and noticed
> something very strange in one of them. I've posted the pics on my
> astro blog. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com
>
> Look carefully at the third pic. Very strange
>
> anyone out there still looking for the PA fireball?
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[meteorite-list] Yet more gleanings from the MAPS abstracts -

2009-07-20 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi List,

In the July 2009 MAPS supplement, I ran across a few more interesting
abstracts -

"CR54 Isotopic Anomalies in the Tagish Lake and Orgueil Carbonaceous
Chondrites."

In this study, samples of Tagish Lake and Orgueil were examined using
stepwise dissolution.  CR was released and then measured.  The
results, quoted below say it all -

"We report here the highest CR54 excess found so far in a silicate
fraction of a meteorite.  This occurs in Tagish Lake and reinforce the
fact that this meteorite is made up of very pristine material (the
most pristine of all according to this study) and strengthens
suggestions that Tagish Lake may have originated from a comet or a
type-D asteroid in a cold region beyond the asteroid belt, where it's
components could have conserved their pristine signatures."

...

Another fascinating abstract, that left wanting more detailed info, was this -

"Six Models for the Formation of the Earth's Atmosphere"

In studying the source and formation of planetary atmospheres, six
different models were used to simulate the formation of an Earth-type
atmosphere.

Model #1 is the volcanic atmosphere as defined by W.W. Rubey.
Model #2 is the atmosphere released by geysers and fumaroles
contaminated with surface water.
Model #3 is outgassed Hawaiian volcanoes, sourced from a degassed upper mantle.
Model #4 is atmosphere expected by a purely cometary impact.
Model #5 is a "steam" atmosphere from a CI-type asteroid impact.
Model #6 is a pure meteoroid atmosphere from sustained bombardment.

Guess which model came closest to producing Earth's atmosphere?

#6.  Only the #6 model fits the measure composition of Earth's
atmosphere.  Also of note is that the very low Ne mixing ratio
invalidates the 5th model completely.

So, perhaps we owe the water we drink and the air we breathe to meteorites. :)

That's all for nowmore gleanings later

Best regards and clear skies,

MikeG


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Re: [meteorite-list] All these worlds...

2009-07-20 Thread Jerry Flaherty

Great early find Darren


--
From: "Darren Garrison" 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 2:54 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] All these worlds...

The evidence seems to be falling in line with this being an impact, not 
weather.
Hopefully, people will be able to look at recent images of the space 
around

Jupiter and find the impactor.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mpml/message/22101

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mpml/message/22102


On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:18:47 -0500, you wrote:


New "black spot" on Jupiter-- possible large comet or asteroid impact like
Shoemaker-Levy 9's effects.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/19/new-black-spot-on-jupiter/

Or the beginning of stellification.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Picture Of Steve Arnold

2009-07-20 Thread Joe Kerchner

This is even funnier.

http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/baltimore-pa-meteor/how-to-find-meteorites/

Joe K



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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 2:12:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Strange Picture Of Steve Arnold

I had a friend take a few pics while Steve was at my house a couple of
weeks ago. I just got around to looking at the pics today and noticed
something very strange in one of them. I've posted the pics on my
astro blog. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com

Look carefully at the third pic. Very strange

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[meteorite-list] Strange Picture Of Steve Arnold

2009-07-20 Thread Mike Hankey
I had a friend take a few pics while Steve was at my house a couple of
weeks ago. I just got around to looking at the pics today and noticed
something very strange in one of them. I've posted the pics on my
astro blog. http://www.mikesastrophotos.com

Look carefully at the third pic. Very strange

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[meteorite-list] The NWA 500 complete slice pictures

2009-07-20 Thread Darren Garrison
I was just looking for the pictures/story about the full slice of NWA 5000 in
the megacool sealed contraption, but all links I'm finding are broken.  Anybody
have a working link?
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-20 Thread John Gwilliam
Anyone who didn't figure out that this was a prank from the get go 
needs to go buy a hat with the word "WHOOOSHABLE" embroidered on the 
front...or on the back...depending on who you are.


Best,

John Gwilliam

At 07:43 PM 7/19/2009, Mark Grossman wrote:
I guess the issue is that everyone expects Mike to act a certain way 
- not judging good or bad here at all - and when he switches gears, 
it catches some of us off guard!


I'm willing to bet there were several list members who heard that 
"whoosh" over their heads!


Mark Grossman

- Original Message - From: "michael cottingham" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!



Hello,

Of course it is a joke, everyone knows that Acme brand tracking 
gizmos are useless. The best tracking devices are those made by 
"Tom Brown"  The "Tracker".


Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
On Jul 19, 2009, at 7:23 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote:


Mike,

Did you call the cops?

Did you fill up a police report?

Send me a copy of that police report.

And if it is a joke, I'll expect an apology.


Anne M. Black
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In a message dated 7/19/2009 7:04:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
meteorite...@yahoo.com writes:
I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart  for
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an  illicit GPS
tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me  out of
the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of  inmportant
data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any  information on
this object please call me ASAP.

http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone.
Camping at my gate is futile.
Michael Farmer


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[meteorite-list] Possible Impact Event on Jupiter?

2009-07-20 Thread Ron Baalke


Space Weather News For July 19, 2009
http://spaceweather.com

JUPITER IMPACT? On July 19th, a veteran observer of Jupiter 
in Australia photographed a fresh dark "scar" in Jupiter's 
cloudtops; the feature resembles the Shoemaker-Levy 9 
impacts of 1994.  It is possible that Jupiter has been 
struck anew by an asteroid or comet.  Astrophotographers 
around the world should train their optics on Jupiter to 
confirm the event and monitor its progress.  
Visit http://spaceweather.com for photos and updates.

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Re: [meteorite-list] All these worlds...

2009-07-20 Thread Darren Garrison
The evidence seems to be falling in line with this being an impact, not weather.
Hopefully, people will be able to look at recent images of the space around
Jupiter and find the impactor.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mpml/message/22101

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mpml/message/22102


On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:18:47 -0500, you wrote:

>New "black spot" on Jupiter-- possible large comet or asteroid impact like
>Shoemaker-Levy 9's effects.
>
>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/19/new-black-spot-on-jupiter/
>
>Or the beginning of stellification.
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[meteorite-list] AD - Check it out!

2009-07-20 Thread Adam Hupe

Dear List Members,

I have several excellent auctions due to end this afternoon and tomorrow so 
take a look if you are interested in some rarities and bargains.  

All Auctions Can Be Found At This link:
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Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck.


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[meteorite-list] Classification of the Arizona Fall

2009-07-20 Thread Greg Stanley


List Members:

Does anyone know if the Arizona fall has been classified yet?  I remember 
seeing it may be a possible H5.

Also, any provisional name?  I can understand if this is still secret as it may 
give info to the location, but still was just wondering.

Also, what has been the most number of falls recovered in one year in the US? 
and worldwide?

Thanks,

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Re: [meteorite-list] 8 Month Anniversary of Buzzard Coulee - Any signof export permits?

2009-07-20 Thread Notkin

Mike Gilmer posted:

Is anyone still combing that strewnfield?  (or is it all cultivated  
farmland by now?)



Dear Mike:

When Lisa and I were hunting the Buzzard in late April, the landowner  
told us that the ground would be planted "within a few weeks." They  
grow canola in those fields, and he told me the stalks get quite high  
and are densely packed.


Rob Wesel and Mike Bandli were there shortly after us, and those guys  
are no slouches  : )  In addition a very friendly eight-person team  
from the University of Edmonton were methodically gridding all 800  
acres. They told me they would continue hunting every weekend for as  
long as they could. So, I would imagine the field has been quite  
thoroughly searched by now. There was additional land south of us, but  
that had been tied up by one of the other Canadian universities. I  
noticed in one of the university bulletins that student volunteers  
were wanted for additional hunting during the summer, so I wouldn't be  
surprised if hunting is still in progress on uncultivated land.


I posted this back in the spring, but for anyone who is interested and  
hasn't seen it, our Buzzard Coulee photo journal:


http://www.aerolite.org/expeditions/bc/buzzard-coulee-meteorite.htm


One of my favorite meteorite hunts ever. Good times indeed, even with  
the snow  : )



Cheers to all from Tucson,

Geoff N.

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Re: [meteorite-list] WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITEHUNTER OUT THERE?

2009-07-20 Thread Martin Altmann
Hunters & gatherers
All the same.


>hunters and those who do it for Science

That's a very common misconception - who says that the not officially
appointed hunters wouldn't serve science? To a private hunter or dealer it
doesn't matter, whether he sells to a private collector or to an university.
In fact they serve science very well, in delivering the deposit and type
specimens of their finds for free, making other donations too;
in offering a larger diversity and quantity of finds than e.g. all
scientific campaigns together had found so far, 
and that at enormously lower costs than science would have to bear to find
that pieces by their own, even allowing them to cherry-pick the most
interesting material, while with the official searchs you have to pay also
for the main load, the weathered chondrites, where nobody is interested in.
So a certain service to science can't be denied.

>those who recover meteorite for a living
A very few can maintain (an often very modest)living standard with their
finds only, cause they sell that stuff so cheap.

Btw. that protectionist debate has even some social implications.
In principle many of the most successful hunters on the planet,
do have to look for a new job now, since it's forbidden to search in Oman.
Well for them and for other hunters or also for the NWA dealers of the first
world, if then Morocco as last free Sahara country will be closed,
that will be easier
than for all the nameless local NWA-hunters in the Sahara countries,
to whose we and science owe many more recoveries and in total also more
important recoveries than Antarctica ever yielded. The foundation of their
existence will be destroyed.
(If I look in the publication records, it's astonishing that some, who shout
loudest for banning private hunting, had the highest profit of the excellent
work of these NWA-people. For my taste, that is morally abhorrent.)

 
Ah Pierre, is it theoretically possible, that the expert hunters could take
part in an Antarctic field trip as official members or are there formal
obstacles?
Would be perhaps promising, if those who proved to have the best skills in
spotting meteorites in the hot deserts would try their abilities there once
too?

At least I'd guess, that the one or other would immediately shake in on such
an opportunity. Imagine, for them it must be like a holiday. To be free of
that pressure to succeed to find something better than an OC or an EUC, to
get the expedition costs refinanced. Salary carries on coming in, to be
insured. Not to have to care and to pay for transportation and equipment,
Not to have wait for the classification, no preparation, polishing, cutting
- and not to have to care for selling that stuff
Aaand most important: to take part in that ADVENTURE !!

Best!
Martin
  

 

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as a response to Martin, yes one could consider that those who 
recover meteorite for a living are hunters and those who do it for 
Science and academic carrier are searchers, but this leaves apart 
those that are not academics but do this as a passion and live on 
another job.  Moreover the activity is the same, the only difference 
being the source of money on the personal bank account. I hunt 
animals for fun, not for feeding my family; still I consider myself 
as a hunter in that activity.
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Re: [meteorite-list] 8 Month Anniversary of Buzzard Coulee - Any signof export permits?

2009-07-20 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Rob,

I wasn't getting impatient, just curious.  I was researching some
falls last night when I noticed it was the 8-mo anniv. of Buzzard
Coulee. :)

Is anyone still combing that strewnfield?  (or is it all cultivated
farmland by now?)

Best regards,

MikeG


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> Nothing yet with mine but not anticipating word till Oct/Nov, MT and Sonny
> should be first out...and soon I would think.
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>
>
>> Hi List!
>>
>> Today is the 8-month anniversary of the Buzzard Coulee fall.  Has
>> there been any word about export permits being issued?  And with the
>> more recent falls grabbing up all of the attention, has anyone been
>> continuing to hunt the BC strewnfield?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITEHUNTER OUT THERE?

2009-07-20 Thread Pekka Savolainen


Perhaps "to search" sounds more academic than "to hunt",
and the most of the searchers in Antarctica are (at least
some kind of) scientists... ;-

take care,

pekka s

beer hunter who likes movie Deer Hunter
(not enough of bears here in Finland to hunt,
so we are also "moose-hunters" (not mouse)


Martin Altmann kirjoitti:

Maybe
those in Antarctica are searchers
and those in the desert hunters?

Note that some scientists use the term "hunter" with a pejorative
connotation. More with the meaning treasure hunter or even poacher. 



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Dear list

I saw Jeff Grossman rightfully mentioned Antarctic search leaders on 
top of that contest, but the point was dismissed, someone even 
suggesting that collecting meteorite in Antarctica is not "hunting" 
but "fishing"; myself I hunt and fish animals and I have collected 
meteorites both in Antarctica and hot deserts. Recovering meteorite 
in Antarctica is not like going to Tucson show, it requires a lot of 
walking, and expertise is spotting the right rock (the story about a 
single black stone among a 100% pure ice surface is only a small part 
of it). Even when done on snowmobile, that is not such a fun when the 
skin of you face fell frozen or when you risk ending in a crevasse. 
It requires also a personal engagement (who is ready not to have a 
shower and fresh food for months?) that is not equaled by tours in 
hot deserts. Remember that the Japanese are out of there home for 
more than one year when they go for meteorites.
So definitely Antarctic recovery expedition is "hunting", unless you 
disqualify as "hunters" people being paid by governments to collect 
meteorites.
  




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[meteorite-list] WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITE HUNTER OUT THERE?

2009-07-20 Thread rochette
as a response to Martin, yes one could consider that those who 
recover meteorite for a living are hunters and those who do it for 
Science and academic carrier are searchers, but this leaves apart 
those that are not academics but do this as a passion and live on 
another job.  Moreover the activity is the same, the only difference 
being the source of money on the personal bank account. I hunt 
animals for fun, not for feeding my family; still I consider myself 
as a hunter in that activity.

--
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Re: [meteorite-list] WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITEHUNTER OUT THERE?

2009-07-20 Thread Martin Altmann
Maybe
those in Antarctica are searchers
and those in the desert hunters?

Note that some scientists use the term "hunter" with a pejorative
connotation. More with the meaning treasure hunter or even poacher. 


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Dear list

I saw Jeff Grossman rightfully mentioned Antarctic search leaders on 
top of that contest, but the point was dismissed, someone even 
suggesting that collecting meteorite in Antarctica is not "hunting" 
but "fishing"; myself I hunt and fish animals and I have collected 
meteorites both in Antarctica and hot deserts. Recovering meteorite 
in Antarctica is not like going to Tucson show, it requires a lot of 
walking, and expertise is spotting the right rock (the story about a 
single black stone among a 100% pure ice surface is only a small part 
of it). Even when done on snowmobile, that is not such a fun when the 
skin of you face fell frozen or when you risk ending in a crevasse. 
It requires also a personal engagement (who is ready not to have a 
shower and fresh food for months?) that is not equaled by tours in 
hot deserts. Remember that the Japanese are out of there home for 
more than one year when they go for meteorites.
So definitely Antarctic recovery expedition is "hunting", unless you 
disqualify as "hunters" people being paid by governments to collect 
meteorites.
-- 
Pierre


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[meteorite-list] Test

2009-07-20 Thread nelson

Test
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[meteorite-list] WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITE HUNTER OUT THERE?

2009-07-20 Thread rochette

Dear list

I saw Jeff Grossman rightfully mentioned Antarctic search leaders on 
top of that contest, but the point was dismissed, someone even 
suggesting that collecting meteorite in Antarctica is not "hunting" 
but "fishing"; myself I hunt and fish animals and I have collected 
meteorites both in Antarctica and hot deserts. Recovering meteorite 
in Antarctica is not like going to Tucson show, it requires a lot of 
walking, and expertise is spotting the right rock (the story about a 
single black stone among a 100% pure ice surface is only a small part 
of it). Even when done on snowmobile, that is not such a fun when the 
skin of you face fell frozen or when you risk ending in a crevasse. 
It requires also a personal engagement (who is ready not to have a 
shower and fresh food for months?) that is not equaled by tours in 
hot deserts. Remember that the Japanese are out of there home for 
more than one year when they go for meteorites.
So definitely Antarctic recovery expedition is "hunting", unless you 
disqualify as "hunters" people being paid by governments to collect 
meteorites.

--
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-20 Thread Matthias Bärmann

Well, Mike, it is known quite well that Ruben, taking into consideration the
dessert conditions, prefers to work quadrupedly lowtech - so you'd better
pay attention if you see something like this
http://www.knipz.de/images/gameimages/255/simple/f792eabb-b4e7-4042-8000-3824cf0a647b.jpg
close to your car ...

Take good care,

Matthias

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Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!




I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart for
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an illicit GPS
tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me out of
the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of inmportant
data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any information on
this object please call me ASAP.

http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone.
Camping at my gate is futile.
Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-20 Thread Pekka Savolainen


Looks like very hi-tech and professional equipment, perhaps
the Secret Service of Bulvania or some hostale force from
the outer space...

best,

pekka s


michael cottingham kirjoitti:

Dude,

I bet there are finger prints on it? I wonder who it might be?

I saw Carl buying one of those the other day at the Spy store on 
Broadway.


Very funny

Best Wishes

Michael



On Jul 19, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:



I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart 
for field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an 
illicit GPS tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was 
you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me 
out of the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of 
inmportant data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any 
information on this object please call me ASAP.


http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone. 
Camping at my gate is futile.

Michael Farmer
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