Re: [meteorite-list] list meteorite sales for free, no fees ever

2009-08-22 Thread Carl 's



Hi Joe,

11,000 hits per day in Skyrock? Man, those 5 members are really active! LOL! 
I'm just kidding, Joe. I'm a member, too, and I've already taken advantage of 
your classified section several times.:) Good work!

Carl

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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 22, 2009

2009-08-22 Thread SPACEROCKSINC

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/August_22_2009.html





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[meteorite-list] PDF Files About Permian-Triassic Extinction

2009-08-22 Thread Paul
Dear Friends,

while searching the web, I came across some interestiung PDF files of 
papers about the Permian-Triassic extinction.

They are:

Retallack, G. J., 2009, Greenhouse crises of the past 300 million years. 
Geological Society of America Bulletin. vol 121, no. 9-10, pp. 1441-145.

Abstract at http://gsabulletin.gsapubs.org/content/121/9-10/1441.abstract

PDF file at 
http://www.uoregon.edu/~dogsci/_media/directory/faculty/greg/geologicalsocietyofamericabulletin2009-utah.pdf?id=directory%3Afaculty%3Agreg%3Apublications&cache=cache

and http://www.uoregon.edu/~dogsci/directory/faculty/greg/publications

Retallack, G. J., 2005, Permian greenhouse crises, in  Lucas, S.G. and 
Ziegler, K.E., ed., The nonmarine Permian. Bulletin New Mexico Museum 
of Natural History and Science. no. 30, pp. 256-269.

PDF file at 
http://www.uoregon.edu/~dogsci/_media/directory/faculty/greg/permiancrises.pdf?id=directory%3Afaculty%3Agreg%3Apublications&cache=cache

and http://www.uoregon.edu/~dogsci/directory/faculty/greg/publications

Benton, M. J., and R. J. Twitchett, 2003, How to kill (almost) all life: the 
end-Permian extinction event. Trends in Ecology & Evolution. vol. 18, 
no. 7, pp. 358-365.

Abstract at http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0169-5347(03)00093-4

PDF file at http://webh01.ua.ac.be/funmorph/raoul/macroevolutie/Benton2003.pdf

and http://webh01.ua.ac.be/funmorph/raoul/macroevolutie/macroevolutie.htm

Yours,

Paul H.



  
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[meteorite-list] AD-ebay auctions ending in an hour

2009-08-22 Thread Gary Fujihara

Aloha Listoids,

I have some pohaku (stone) and hao (iron) meteorites ku'ai emi (for  
sale) on ebay, ending today Saturday in about an hour, featuring a  
perfect Bassi, flowline covered Chergach, olivine encrusted NWA  
pallasite frag, oriented NWA 869, a couple of Campos and a 152g  
unclassified, amongst other items that may be of interest here:


http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=

Mahalo for looking, and have a great weekend everybody!

Gary Fujihara
AstroDay Institute
105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720
(808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com
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[meteorite-list] Separated At Birth?

2009-08-22 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/2mikes.jpg?t=1250963680

Seriously!

Phil Whitmer
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[meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was wondering.I 
know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has there ever been 
any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found a hole thru a 
terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from space.Any 
comments?
 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! 


  

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[meteorite-list] Separated At Birth?

2009-08-22 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
OK, I guess the pictures are too small to see clearly,  it's M. Farmer and 
M. Hankey.


Phil Whitmer 


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[meteorite-list] freebie update

2009-08-22 Thread steve arnold
    Hi list.It continue's to amaze me,that people who do not even know me,or 
have ever emailed me,they still send threating emails.I just really wish we 
could all put all are negativity behind us and just get on with meteorites.All 
freebies are ready to go.There was so much that all who emailed me are getting 
2 or 3 pieces.I hope you are happy with them.My gift to you.Life is good now.I 
hope most of your's is good as well.
 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! 


  

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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago

Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


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arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
space.Any comments?
 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! 


  

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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Matthias Bärmann

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites



I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago


Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


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arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread michael cottingham

TOO FUNNY!!!

Michael
On Aug 22, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Matthias Bärmann wrote:


Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" >

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites



I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago


Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von  
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arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but  
has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites? 
I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one  
from

space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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[meteorite-list] Eric Olson contact me

2009-08-22 Thread Gary Fujihara

Aloha,

Is Eric Olson on this list?  If so, please contact me off-list Eric.

Otherwise, if anyone knows how I can get in touch with him please  
forward me his contact or him, mine.  The phone number off the Star- 
Bits website does not work, and he hasn't responded to my emails yet.


Gary Fujihara
AstroDay Institute
105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720
(808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make
it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
hunt his own hole.
I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
during shipping.
I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"





-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago

Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Fred Bieler
I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment, as it
already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if the hole
gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of replacement
holes on hand.

Fred Bieler
Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights
www.astronomics.com
800.422.7876

-Original Message-
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make
it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
hunt his own hole.
I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
during shipping.
I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"





-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago

Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


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arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Jan Bartels

Humour ?

EUROPE RULES 


- Original Message - 
From: "michael cottingham" 

To: "Matthias Bärmann" 
Cc: ; "Martin Altmann" 


Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


TOO FUNNY!!!

Michael
On Aug 22, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Matthias Bärmann wrote:


Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" 

>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites



I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago


Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


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steve
arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but
has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?
I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one
from
space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Good idea! ..and I will wire them by hologram.

I think, each serious collector should carry around a hole in the wallet.

A collectors dream! - But unfortunately no export permit available, cause it
is a natural heritage:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg



Best!
Martin


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Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 01:27
An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment, as it
already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if the hole
gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of replacement
holes on hand.

Fred Bieler
Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights
www.astronomics.com
800.422.7876

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make
it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
hunt his own hole.
I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
during shipping.
I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"





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Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago

Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Impactika
Martin!
 
Most collectors already have holes in their wallets!
And very often it is because of you. ;-)
 
Anne M. Black
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In a message dated 8/22/2009 5:37:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
altm...@meteorite-martin.de writes:
Good idea! ..and I will wire them by hologram.

I think, each serious collector should carry around a hole in the wallet.

A collectors dream! - But unfortunately no export permit available, cause it
is a natural heritage:

_http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg_ 
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg) 

Best!
Martin


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Fred Bieler [mailto:f...@astronomics.com] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 01:27
An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment, as it
already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if the hole
gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of replacement
holes on hand.

Fred Bieler
Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights
www.astronomics.com
800.422.7876

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make
it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
hunt his own hole.
I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
during shipping.
I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago

Me too.

_http://kuerzer.de/terresthole_ (http://kuerzer.de/terresthole) 
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread ensoramanda
Trouble is you still get the authorities telling you what you can and can't do 
with holes just the same as meteorites.

as in the old Bernard Cribbins song...!!!



There I was, a-digging this hole
Hole in the ground, so big and sort of round it was
And there was I, digging it deep
It was flat at at the bottom and the sides were steep
When along comes this bloke in a bowler which he lifted and scratched his 
head
Well he looked down the hole, poor demented soul and he said

Do you mind if I make a suggestion?

Don’t dig there, dig it elsewhere
Your digging it round and it ought to be square
The shape of it’s wrong, it’s much much too long
And you can’t put hole where a hole don’t belong

I ask, what a liberty eh?
Nearly bashed him right in the bowler

Well there was I, stood in me hole
Shovelling earth for all that I was worth I was
And there was him, standing up there
So grand and official with his nose in the air
So I gave him a look sort of sideways and I leaned on me shovel and sighed
Well I lit me a fag and having took a drag I replied

I just couldn’t bear, to dig it elsewhere
I’m digging it round cos I don’t want it square
And if you disagree it doesn’t bother me
That’s the place where the holes gonna be

Well there we were, discussing this hole
Hole in the groud so big and sort of round it was
It’s not there now, the ground’s all flat
And beneath it is the bloke in the bowler hat
And that’s that


Graham Ensor UK

 
 Martin Altmann  wrote: 
> Good idea! ..and I will wire them by hologram.
> 
> I think, each serious collector should carry around a hole in the wallet.
> 
> A collectors dream! - But unfortunately no export permit available, cause it
> is a natural heritage:
> 
> http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> Best!
> Martin
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Fred Bieler [mailto:f...@astronomics.com] 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 01:27
> An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
> 
> I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment, as it
> already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if the hole
> gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of replacement
> holes on hand.
> 
> Fred Bieler
> Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights
> www.astronomics.com
> 800.422.7876
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
> Altmann
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
> 
> Thank you Matthias,
> 
> indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make
> it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
> scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
> hunt his own hole.
> I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
> First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
> I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
> during shipping.
> I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
> Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
> piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
> All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.
> 
> So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
> "Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
> An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
> 
> Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
> indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
> daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
> freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Altmann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
> 
> 
> >I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago
> 
> Me too.
> 
> http://kuerzer.de/terresthole
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
> arnold
> Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
> 
> Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
> wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteo

Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Pete Pete

 
 
Are we talking about just the holes, or the rock around the holes, too?
 



> From: altm...@meteorite-martin.de
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:21:13 +0200
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Thank you Matthias,
>
> indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make
> it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
> scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
> hunt his own hole.
> I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
> First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
> I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
> during shipping.
> I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
> Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
> piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
> All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.
>
> So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
> "Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
> An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
> indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
> daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
> freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Altmann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
>
>>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago
>
> Me too.
>
> http://kuerzer.de/terresthole
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
> arnold
> Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
> wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
> there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
> a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
> space.Any comments?
> Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!
>
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Matthias Bärmann
The whole hole, a national heritage? Very tricky, Martin, but, sorry, I 
can't accept that. If you don't want, it will be easy for me to get a 
polished full slice of  a black hole from CERN, with perfect weight-surface 
ratio. Or I'll get your car marked to find access to the hole. And please 
take into consideration that Hopperthedog already trains with holy long 
bones.


*Holes make the world go around, world go around, world go around*

Sincerely etc.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


Good idea! ..and I will wire them by hologram.

I think, each serious collector should carry around a hole in the wallet.

A collectors dream! - But unfortunately no export permit available, cause it
is a natural heritage:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg



Best!
Martin


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Fred Bieler [mailto:f...@astronomics.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 01:27
An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment, as it
already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if the hole
gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of replacement
holes on hand.

Fred Bieler
Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights
www.astronomics.com
800.422.7876

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make
it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
hunt his own hole.
I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
during shipping.
I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"





-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites



I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago


Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Darren Garrison
I know of a similar rock near here that may be lunar: the hole was once full of
green cheese!

http://www.oconeecountry.com/stumphouse.html

(okay, green blue cheese)
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
No way!

Imagine they would catch you on the boarder with a hole in your pocket!

They would send you down in the hole or even worse, they would shoot a hole
in your head!

So please don't do it!
Martin





-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 02:03
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

The whole hole, a national heritage? Very tricky, Martin, but, sorry, I 
can't accept that. If you don't want, it will be easy for me to get a 
polished full slice of  a black hole from CERN, with perfect weight-surface 
ratio. Or I'll get your car marked to find access to the hole. And please 
take into consideration that Hopperthedog already trains with holy long 
bones.

*Holes make the world go around, world go around, world go around*

Sincerely etc.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


Good idea! ..and I will wire them by hologram.

I think, each serious collector should carry around a hole in the wallet.

A collectors dream! - But unfortunately no export permit available, cause it
is a natural heritage:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg



Best!
Martin


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Fred Bieler [mailto:f...@astronomics.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 01:27
An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment, as it
already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if the hole
gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of replacement
holes on hand.

Fred Bieler
Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights
www.astronomics.com
800.422.7876

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to make
it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
hunt his own hole.
I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
during shipping.
I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"





-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago

Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
arnold
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
I suppose Steve follows the path of holism.

Therefore his event horizon is determined solely by the hole itself.

And the only question, he's interested in, is whether the hole is
terrestrial or not from this World.



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Pete Pete [mailto:rsvp...@hotmail.com] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 02:01
An: altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteoritelist meteoritelist
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


 
 
Are we talking about just the holes, or the rock around the holes, too?
 



> From: altm...@meteorite-martin.de
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:21:13 +0200
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Thank you Matthias,
>
> indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to
make
> it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
> scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
> hunt his own hole.
> I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
> First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
> I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
> during shipping.
> I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
> Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
> piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
> All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.
>
> So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
> "Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
> An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
> indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
> daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
> freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Altmann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
>
>>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago
>
> Me too.
>
> http://kuerzer.de/terresthole
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
> arnold
> Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
> wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
> there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I
found
> a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
> space.Any comments?
> Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Well, the author of the question said it frankly: "I have never seen one 
[hole] from space.Any comments?"


Ahm, yes. Holes from/through space - must be wormholes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole Holes, made by worms. It's only a 
question of penetration. In any case:  n o t  from this world. My opinion.


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


I suppose Steve follows the path of holism.

Therefore his event horizon is determined solely by the hole itself.

And the only question, he's interested in, is whether the hole is
terrestrial or not from this World.



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Von: Pete Pete [mailto:rsvp...@hotmail.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 02:01
An: altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteoritelist meteoritelist
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites




Are we talking about just the holes, or the rock around the holes, too?





From: altm...@meteorite-martin.de
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:21:13 +0200
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to

make

it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
hunt his own hole.
I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
during shipping.
I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"





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Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Altmann"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites



I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago


Me too.

http://kuerzer.de/terresthole


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Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I

found

a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
space.Any comments?
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!




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[meteorite-list] Test Only. Please Delete

2009-08-22 Thread John.L.Cabassi
Test. Please delete.

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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Matthias,

I beg your pardon. That there would be "holes" in the universe is an even
more gigantic hoax than the Moon-landing.


Each child knows, that there can't be a vacuum or a "nothing" between the
spheres of the stars. 

Here judge by your own.

A pretended "black hole" in space:
http://kuerzer.de/blackhole

and compare:
http://kuerzer.de/holehoaxproof


Ooops, we forgot to answer Steve's question:  No.

Off to bed for today,
Martin

And never forget:
"just gotta help me keep the devil
way down in the hole"




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Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 02:34
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Well, the author of the question said it frankly: "I have never seen one 
[hole] from space.Any comments?"

Ahm, yes. Holes from/through space - must be wormholes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole Holes, made by worms. It's only a 
question of penetration. In any case:  n o t  from this world. My opinion.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


I suppose Steve follows the path of holism.

Therefore his event horizon is determined solely by the hole itself.

And the only question, he's interested in, is whether the hole is
terrestrial or not from this World.



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Von: Pete Pete [mailto:rsvp...@hotmail.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 02:01
An: altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteoritelist meteoritelist
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites




Are we talking about just the holes, or the rock around the holes, too?




> From: altm...@meteorite-martin.de
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:21:13 +0200
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Thank you Matthias,
>
> indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to
make
> it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
> scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
> hunt his own hole.
> I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
> First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
> I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
> during shipping.
> I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
> Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
> piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
> All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.
>
> So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
> "Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
> An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
> indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
> daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
> freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Altmann"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
>
>>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago
>
> Me too.
>
> http://kuerzer.de/terresthole
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
> arnold
> Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
> Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
> wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
> there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I
found
> a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
> space.Any comments?
> Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!
>
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day List
Anne, that was funny. In fact the whole concept of holes has been quite
amusing. All I can say is Holy Moly

http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr215/olivine_01/?action=view¤t
=file003.jpg

But then again, I must stress that holes can be alluring and dangerous

http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/rr215/olivine_01/?action=view¤t
=ob.gif

Cheers
John
IMCA # 2125

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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:47 PM
To: altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


Martin!
 
Most collectors already have holes in their wallets!
And very often it is because of you. ;-)
 
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/22/2009 5:37:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
altm...@meteorite-martin.de writes:
Good idea! ..and I will wire them by hologram.

I think, each serious collector should carry around a hole in the
wallet.

A collectors dream! - But unfortunately no export permit available,
cause it is a natural heritage:

_http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg_ 
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg) 

Best!
Martin


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Von: Fred Bieler [mailto:f...@astronomics.com] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 01:27
An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment,
as it already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if
the hole gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of
replacement holes on hand.

Fred Bieler
Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com
800.422.7876

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to
make it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance
to hunt his own hole. I plan, after classification is done, to slice the
hole down. First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting
damaged during shipping. I will keep you update hourly about the
distribution of the freeholes. Furthermore I offer to any university,
high school and rest home etc. a piece of hole for free for scientific
studies and educational purposes. All others already can pre-order on a
moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"


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Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago

Me too.

_http://kuerzer.de/terresthole_ (http://kuerzer.de/terresthole) 
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day List,
I apologize for the broken links. It's been a long time since I've been
able to post and I messed up. Let's try this again,

Thanks for your patience. I'll try to pay more attention in the future.

Cheers
John




G'Day List
Anne, that was funny. In fact the whole concept of holes has been quite
amusing. All I can say is Holy Moly

( http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr215/olivine_01/file003.jpg )

But then again, I must stress that holes can be alluring and dangerous

( http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr215/olivine_01/ob.gif )

Cheers
John
IMCA # 2125


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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
impact...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:47 PM
To: altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


Martin!
 
Most collectors already have holes in their wallets!
And very often it is because of you. ;-)
 
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/22/2009 5:37:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
altm...@meteorite-martin.de writes:
Good idea! ..and I will wire them by hologram.

I think, each serious collector should carry around a hole in the
wallet.

A collectors dream! - But unfortunately no export permit available,
cause it is a natural heritage:

_http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg_ 
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/374924/701562.jpg) 

Best!
Martin


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Fred Bieler [mailto:f...@astronomics.com] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 01:27
An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

I'd suggest using plastic bubble wrap to protect them during shipment,
as it already consists of many holes surrounded by plastic. That way, if
the hole gets damaged in transit, the recipient already has a supply of
replacement holes on hand.

Fred Bieler
Astronomics/Christophers, Ltd./Cloudy Nights www.astronomics.com
800.422.7876

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:21 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Thank you Matthias,

indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to
make it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance
to hunt his own hole. I plan, after classification is done, to slice the
hole down. First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting
damaged during shipping. I will keep you update hourly about the
distribution of the freeholes. Furthermore I offer to any university,
high school and rest home etc. a piece of hole for free for scientific
studies and educational purposes. All others already can pre-order on a
moderate price-per-gram-rate.

So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: majbaerm...@web.de [mailto:majbaerm...@web.de] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago

Me too.

_http://kuerzer.de/terresthole_ (http://kuerzer.de/terresthole) 
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Wadi & Jan Woreczko

Ha
There are many holes here:
http://www.woreczko.pl/meteorites/features/glossary-CratersQuiz.htm
;-)
Woreczko
www.woreczko.pl
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


I know of a similar rock near here that may be lunar: the hole was once 
full of

green cheese!

http://www.oconeecountry.com/stumphouse.html

(okay, green blue cheese)
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:57:26 +0200, you wrote:

>I beg your pardon. That there would be "holes" in the universe is an even
>more gigantic hoax than the Moon-landing.
>

I've got a hole in me pocket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODNVo1o7w8M

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_hole
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Please stay serious.

Here a hole in situ, fragmented by impact. According newer definitions, it
is no hammer.
http://kuerzer.de/nohammer


Here's a true hammer hole.
http://kuerzer.de/hammerhole


Off now.

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Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 04:40
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:57:26 +0200, you wrote:

>I beg your pardon. That there would be "holes" in the universe is an even
>more gigantic hoax than the Moon-landing.
>

I've got a hole in me pocket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODNVo1o7w8M

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_hole
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[meteorite-list] re holes

2009-08-22 Thread Pete Shugar
Theres  a germ on flea on the hair on the wart on the frog 
on the bump on the log in  the sand in the hole on the bottom of the sea.

Pete

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[meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Phil Whitmer

Martin:
Are you taking offers on the whole hole?  (Hold on I have to turn down this 
Hole album, I can't take anymore Courtney Love catterwauling,  I think I'll 
put on Hank Williams Sr. "My Bucket's Got a Hole In It".


Btw, how many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall? Even if the holes 
are rather small?


Phil Whitmer 


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Re: [meteorite-list] re holes

2009-08-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:47:54 -0500, you wrote:

>Theres  a germ on flea on the hair on the wart on the frog 
>on the bump on the log in  the sand in the hole on the bottom of the sea.

There is also a hole in the bucket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfCQ-t7xY0
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[meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

2009-08-22 Thread Anita Westlake
Dear List:
   I think it would be helpful if someone not only answered Steve's question, 
but provided proof of the holiness of non-iron rocks. 
   I hope this helps,
Anita
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Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

2009-08-22 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi Anita,  Good call!

Out of over a  ton of unclassified stony meteorites I have only one with a 
natural hole.   It is 172 gr unclassified and has been cut.  I purchased it 
cut and never  obtained the other slice.  So you might say I just got the 
hole.

I  have had some others with holes but it was fairly clear the hole was due 
to  weathering out of material so I don't count those.

Tom 

In a  message dated 8/22/2009 9:04:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
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Dear List:
I think it would be  helpful if someone not only answered Steve's question, 
but provided proof of the  holiness of non-iron rocks. 
I hope this  helps,
Anita
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Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

2009-08-22 Thread Anita Westlake
Whoops. Picture didn't come through. Try this link:

http://www.theholeintherock.com/

Anita





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Subject: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

Dear List:
   I think it would be helpful if someone not only answered Steve's question, 
but provided proof of the holiness of non-iron rocks. 
   I hope this helps,
Anita
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Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

2009-08-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:25:15 EDT, you wrote:

>I  have had some others with holes but it was fairly clear the hole was due 
>to  weathering out of material so I don't count those.

That's how the iron meteorites get holes, too.  (Plus ablating out of material
of course.)
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites- an attempt towards an answer

2009-08-22 Thread drtanuki
Steve,
  Was the day you found the hole same day you found the pocket full of asphalt 
meteorites?  The strangest things seem to happen in Chicago!

  If one looks at what drives your meteorite buying is holes, lips and lipping, 
flow lines, and end cuts.  Oh, I almost forgot your all time latest favorites 
Gaos.  Your Sikhote-Alin two-holer will be treasured for a while I hope before 
you dump her onto Ebay?

  To answer your question Steve... yes stone meteorite can have "holes".  
"Holes" can occur in stone meteorites due to vugs, vesicles.  I have posted a 
photo on the meteor/meteorite news weblog of Dho 700 with vugs.

Photo:  http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/

  Another cause of holes in stone meteorites is sand grain abrasion.  

  And last, your hole might just be manmade like in some of your irons.

Hope that answers a part of your question, Steve.  

Best of luck with your holes.  Dirk RossTokyo








--- On Sun, 8/23/09, steve arnold  wrote:

> From: steve arnold 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 3:15 AM
> Hi list.Well it is nice to see that
> the list has quieted down.I was wondering.I know that there
> are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has there ever been
> any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I found
> a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never
> seen one from space.Any comments?
>  Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! 
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Mexicodoug

Steve wrote:

"I found a hole"

In answer to your question Steve, the following stony meteorites have 
holes in them, enjoy!!!


Bunburra Rockhole (recent Aussie witnessed fall fortuitously(?) and 
expertly classified by Dr. Benedix)

Crab Hole (has to be an Aussie favorite)
Ehole (Prorly, the only witnessed hole, from Cunene, Ang.)
Laundry Rockhole (Shakira?)
Sheephole Valley (Nuf' said)
Thylacine Hole (Big sheep-eating Puddy Cat hole)

You once brown-nosed the finder for his Sheephole Valley - I recall 
hearing you got some.


Matteo once posted (2006):

"I need a little piece of Ehole meteorite. Email me in private, 
thanks."


If you're lucky he might trade 'holes with you.
As a tip, a gram of Witnessed Ehole goes for more than Artful Sheephole.

A-hole-in-won,
Doug


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Martin: 
Are you taking offers on the whole hole? (Hold on I have to turn down 
this Hole album, I can't take anymore Courtney Love catterwauling, I 
think I'll put on Hank Williams Sr. "My Bucket's Got a Hole In It". 

 
Btw, how many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall? Even if the 
holes are rather small? 

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

2009-08-22 Thread John Gwilliam

It took Anita to get me on track.
Here's is Arizona's pride and joy - a natural hole in a terrestrials 
rock! And...just three miles north of Arizona State University, home 
or a very famous meteorite collection located in the Bateman Natural 
Science Building. I believe it is holy as there are a number of 
wedding performed there every year.




Thanks to Chicago Ssteve for starting this very informative and 
provocative thread!


Best,

John Gwilliam



At 08:26 PM 8/22/2009, Anita Westlake wrote:

Whoops. Picture didn't come through. Try this link:

http://www.theholeintherock.com/

Anita





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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:04:21 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

Dear List:
   I think it would be helpful if someone not only answered Steve's 
question, but provided proof of the holiness of non-iron rocks.

   I hope this helps,
Anita
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Too many people were born on third base
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Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question

2009-08-22 Thread MeteorHntr
Dr. King had a Nuevo Mercurio in his collection,  about 25 grams in size, 
that had a hole in it. It was fully crusted, and  the hole was big enough to 
run a fishing line through.

Steve  Arnold
of "Meteorite Men"


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Dear  List:
I think it would be helpful if someone not only answered  Steve's question, 
but provided proof of the holiness of non-iron rocks.  
I hope this helps,
Anita  

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[meteorite-list] AD: MY NEW WEBSITE

2009-08-22 Thread dean bessey
Its taken me quite a while to figure out how to build an ecommerce  website but 
I finally have my creation at:
http://www.treasureshaven.com/
This will be more than just a meteorite site and I hope to eventually have a 
very large variety of rocks and minerals listed also. 
But there are now just over a hundred meteorites on offer so there should be 
something for everybody. Next week I have plans of listing a very large amount 
of stuff on the site so keep checking all week for new stuff.
Let me know if you have trouble with anything as I only just finished the site 
and there might still be some bugs
Sincerely
DEAN BESSEY
New Website:
http://www.treasureshaven.com/
..
If anybody makes an order this week I will send for free a good luck crystal 
collection consisting of quartz, amethyst and citrine a gram or two each - the 
perfect size to carry arround for luck.


  

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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay auctions * oriented Taza, Mundrabilla, moldavite, Henbury, Gibeon and More

2009-08-22 Thread Leigh Anne DelRay
Hello lovely list,

I just wanted to put it out there that I have some auctions ending tomorrow.
They are all very lovely.

There is a completely oriented wonderful bullet of a Taza, that can be
seen here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NICE-ORIENTED-Taza-Iron-Meteorite-rollover-lips-NWA-859_W0QQitemZ250484064563QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a52038133&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

A nice complete Mundrabilla  here:

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And a complete Henbury that is in the shape of a hand or a mitten here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Henbury-Iron-Meteorite-Australia-Complete-Individual-NR_W0QQitemZ250484078938QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a5203b95a&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

And a perfect Gibeon crystal here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibeon-Iron-Meteorite-Crystal-Complete-Individual-NR_W0QQitemZ250484068261QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a52038fa5&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

If you are into Impactites, I have a nice awesome Libyan Desert Glass here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/GEM-Libyan-Desert-Glass-Meteorite-Impactite-Tektite-NR_W0QQitemZ260464043976QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca4dde7c8&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

And a moldavite here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Moldavite-meteorite-tektite-Crystal-specimen-A-GRADE_W0QQitemZ260464037717QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca4ddcf55&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

If you want to see all of my auctions (even though there are a lot of
non-meteorite items) you can click this link:

http://shop.ebay.com/callistodesigns/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=


Thanks everyone, and have a great night.
:>)
Leigh Anne DelRay
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Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

2009-08-22 Thread Pekka Savolainen


This is turning to be a philosophic dilemma: just found a hole in an 
empty pocket,

and that should be against all the natural laws.

Also, how to find the difference between a hole of a donut and a hole of 
a rock

if you have only the hole to study?

Perhaps I´m going to collect just holes, think they shouldn´t need much 
room...,

and  it is quite easy to find even a worm-hole in a mushroom.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Worm3.jpg

But if I´ll buy a hole, how can I be sure, I have bought the whole hole, 
and not

a half or even less...interresting.

best,

pekka s


Martin Altmann kirjoitti:


I think, each serious collector should carry around a hole in the wallet.

  


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