[meteorite-list] The Meteorite Wiki: For The World

2009-11-01 Thread Meteorites USA

Good Morning Listees,

Hope everyone had a great week last week. I've had a great time this 
past week, and have received a large number of emails and phone calls 
from friends in this community congratulating me on creating the 
Meteorite Wiki. I'd like to say thank you very much for all the kind 
words, advice and suggestions for the site, I do appreciate all of it. 
But I find it kind of weird to receive these kind words on something 
that should have been created long ago. Why it wasn't I have no idea as 
it's something that is greatly needed by the meteorite world, and now 
the main stream.


With increasing awareness of meteorite falls, fireballs, asteroids, 
including the mighty mid-air explosions over Indonesia, and even a few 
hoaxes as the media spins more and more fantastic tales about asteroids, 
meteorites and meteors it's more important than ever to provide an 
information source that will help educate the public about meteorites, 
the events that surround them and the science behind them.


This is especially important given the massive media attention and the 
inaccurate data being reported. That is a huge problem in and of itself. 
Poor reporting by lazy reporters and skewed data are constant problems.


On a more positive note, we can be happy about the millions of viewers 
that the new and exciting Meteorite Men cable television series on the 
Science Channel will garner. A lot of these people will become 
fascinated by them, and hopefully will be amazed enough to research more 
information on them. The show I think will create a whole new group of 
meteorite collectors and hunters through the ingenious adventure/science 
theme of the show, and most likely will add a few new scientists to the 
meteorite world as well. To be able to entertain and educate at the same 
time about the coolest rocks on the face of the planet has to rank up 
there. It doesn't get much more exciting than that.


Meteorites will continue to grow in popularity as awareness increases. 
Millions of people will watch the show yes, and millions more will watch 
the new movie by director Roland Emmerich called 2012.


Most are familiar with the ominous 2012 date from the Mayan calendar 
because the calendar inexplicably ends on the date of December 21 2012, 
which some believe marks the end of the world. Some believe that it 
foretells of the future impact of a massive asteroid with the Earth in 
which all life will be extinguished in a huge ball of fire wiping out 
all living creatures and human beings in the process.


Thanks to Roland Emmerich's new 2012 movie and the countless millions of 
people and websites surrounding this event, the date is now etched in 
the minds of hundreds of millions of people across the globe, and the 
closer we get to this date, the more interest in asteroids there will 
be, and in turn the more interest there will be in meteorites!


Given the recent 50 kiloton explosion (equivalent to 110 million pounds 
of TNT explosives) of an untracked and very scientifically surprising 
asteroid over Indonesia just a few weeks ago, this proves there's more 
out there than we can possibly track and raises some alarm as well. 
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news165.html


Many scientists were taken by surprise and were amazed at the force and 
size of the mid-air explosion. It's been reported that no one knew it 
existed until it exploded over land scaring thousands of locals and 
setting off infrasound detection systems thousands of miles away.


I can't really mention all this without mentioning NASAs new Asteroid 
Watch program http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroidwatch/ and of course the 
NEO (Near Earth Object Program) http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ both of which 
track, record and notify interested parties of the potential hazards of 
the extraterrestrial visitors we lovingly know as asteroids. Many of 
NASAs program participants and scientists are ever more aware of the 
social networking craze that has taken the internet world by storm, and 
have implemented and created their own social network accounts on 
Twitter, Facebook, Myspace and other popular websites.


This revolution of online networking has allowed the worlds best 
advertising system (word of mouth) to become electronic in nature 
spreading the word around the world in a matter of seconds! Combine that 
with cell phones, PDAs, and broadband enabled laptops and other mobile 
computing technology you can see the power and importance of having the 
right information available to those who search for it.


So the next time there's a large fireball event, a meteorite fall, or 
when NASA discovers a new asteroid impactor or scientists find, track 
and predict an impact like that of Asteroid 2008 TC3, there will be a 
source of information and knowledge readily available for the curious, 
for the educator, and for the media to compile accurate data for their 
reports.


We'll have an informational database for the worlds meteorite knowledge 

[meteorite-list] [AD] Most beautifull Oriented Gao 134 gr. and more

2009-11-01 Thread Jan Bartels

Litoids,

Right now on Ebay.

Sensational oriented Gao.
Link:
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Oum Dreyga 113 grams with Flowlines.
Link:
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Ending soon:
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Enjoy,

Jan
IMCA 9833


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[meteorite-list] AD : Canyon Diablo Display Lot,

2009-11-01 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Folks!

I have a few offerings of interest, including a large Canyon Diablo
Riker display.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/0/Canyon-Diablo-Crater-Display-Kit--Famous-Iron-Meteorite_592091.html

This set would be perfect as a gift or perhaps as an outreach prop.
It has several different samples from the Canyon Diablo site - crater
sand, ejecta rim rock, tiny shrapnels, large individual iron, and tiny
spheroids from the Nininger collection.  (the latter have a copy of
the original collection label)

Forget the price on the website - US Met-List members can have this
kit for $80 shipped!  Canadian and Overseas buyers is $100 shipped via
USPS Priority International Box. (typically about one week delivery
time)

I also have the entire 2008 year of Meteorite Magazine (4 quarterly
issues) for $50 shipped.  Again, ignore the price on the website -
that price is for the general public and not Met List members.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/0/Meteorite-Magazine--Entire-2008-Year--4-Issues_1009149.html

I also have some beautifully-crusted and fresh  stony meteorites from
a variety of recent falls - some of these are oriented and 100%
crusted.  All of them come in dessicated Riker boxes with display
labels - ready for your cabinet or display shelf.  All of these are
prime examples of their respective falls, or they wouldn't have been
in my private/personal collection cabinet.  I'm not a high roller
collector, so I can't afford BIG stones that are this nice, so I
collect the nicest ones I can afford - the offerings below are of high
quality.  Again - ignore the prices on the website.  Met-List members
get 25% off of the prices for the specimens below :

Bassikounou 4.69 grams, fully 100% crusted in FRESH velvety,
pitch-black fusion crust.  This is as nice as a small Bassikounou
gets.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Bassikounou-Witnessed-Fall--100-Crusted-Whole-Stone_1065553.html

Chergach 6.63 grams, fully-oriented with prominent roll-over lip.  98%
fully crusted in FRESH black velvety fusion crust.  This is one of the
freshest Chergach stones I have ever seen.  It must have been
collected right after it first hit the dirt.  It has one tiny spot on
the fusion crust where the unoxidized matrix is exposed.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Chergach-Meteorite--Oriented-Whole-Stone-w-Rollover-Lip_1065557.html

Oum Dreyga 4.53 grams, Oriented and 100% FRESH fusion crust.  Just
like the two stones above, this one is truly fresh - pitch black,
matte-velvety crust.  This one didn't sit in the desert long before
someone scooped it up and protected it from oxidation.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Oum-Dreyga-Witnessed-Fall-Meteorite--Oriented-Whole-Stone_1065564.html

Bensour 2.35 grams - 100% FRESH black crust.  This one has a nice
rounded organic shape that reminds me of a tiny pea-pod.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Bensour-Witnessed-Fall-Meteorite--Fresh-Whole-Stone_1065561.html

FINDS : (don't forget, you get 25% off of these prices shown below)

Gold Basin (with Aerolite label and Kriegh/Monrad provenance) - this
one is a faux-individual.  This means it is a nice round fragment
that is not jagged - at first glance, it could resemble a small
individual.  It's spherical, like a weathered marble.  If you want a
collectible Gold Basin fragment, this is it.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Gold-Basin--Arizona-Meteorite--Jim-Kriegh-Personal-Find_1066934.html

I also have the following available - Juancheng crusted fragment,
Tamdakht crusted fragment, Moldavites, and cheap bulk UNWA lots for
outreach or gifts.  (small slices, endcuts and fragments).

BOOKS -

Collision Earth, Meteorite  Comet Impacts by Grego -

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Collision-Earth--Meteorite-Comet-Impacts-by-Peter-Grego_1055700.html

Comets, Creators and Destroyers by Levy -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Comets--Creators-and-Destroyers-by-David-Levy_1069531.html

Moldavite, Starborn Stone of Transformation (New Age) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Moldavite--Starborn-Stone-of-Transformation--Book_1041995.html

I have a growing pile of MAPS journal back issues - contact me to make an offer.

Lastly,  have some nice NWA 869 display slices -

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/NWA-869--Heavy-Slice--1004-grams_1019899.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126502/NWA-869--Crusted-Endcut--937-grams_1019905.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126502/NWA-869--Nice-Slice--464-grams_1019895.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126502/NWA-869--Crusted-Endcut--105-grams_1019890.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126502/NWA-869--Nice-Thick-Slice--999-grams_1019665.html

EVERYONE WHO ORDERS TODAY WILL GET EXTRA FREEBIES - classified NWA
slices and other nice stuff.

My website only accepts PayPal, so if you don't want to use PayPal,
then contact me directly at - meteoritem...@gmail.com

If you 

[meteorite-list] AD - New ebay listings

2009-11-01 Thread Greg Catterton
Hi to everyone on the list,

I just listed some nice meteorites on ebay. 
A wide selection of material at very nice prices.

Check my ebay listings here:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1

As always, off ebay sales of fixed price listings come with a 10% discount.

Hope the rest of the weekend is good,

Greg C.
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA 4682


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Meteorite Wiki: For The World

2009-11-01 Thread Meteorites USA

Thanks Sonny, Ruben, List,

I would agree that Steve and Geoff do need to be complimented and 
acknowledged for their work on bringing meteorites to the main stream. 
Though it is a cable television series it will expand the base of the 
meteorite world exponentially, especially when one considers the reach 
of the Science Channel and Discovery Communications. I'm looking forward 
to seeing the new episodes.


Without showing any bias or favoritism, I agree wholeheartedly with 
Ruben when he stated /...All too often (speaking for myself) it seems 
easy to forget the monumental achievements of Geoff and Steve. Think 
about it, they have successfully completed filming of the very first TV 
series about meteorites/meteorite hunting in history!.../


Regardless of personal feelings on the matter, to help create a 
television series on such a major network is an amazing and wonderful 
thing for the meteorite world as a whole and certainly the logical next 
step. I predict in the next 2-3 years such an explosive growth of 
knowledge of the science of meteorites as never before seen in the 
history of this great science. It's never been in the public eye more 
than now, and it may even become a vehicle into the future of 
astronomical science for many. Who knows how many new scientists, 
astronomers and astronauts this exposure will create? It will have 
phenomenal growth.


Perhaps we should consider adding Geoff and Steve to the Meteorite Men 
page on the wiki. Any volunteers to write the pages? ;)


Thank you all...

Regards,
Eric



wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:

Hi Eric,

Good job on the Wiki site, it looks good.


On a more positive note, we can be happy about the millions of viewers
that the new and exciting Meteorite Men cable television series on the
Science Channel will garner. A lot of these people will become
fascinated by them, and hopefully will be amazed enough to research 

more

information on them. The show I think will create a whole new group of
meteorite collectors and hunters through the ingenious 

adventure/science
theme of the show, and most likely will add a few new scientists to 

the
meteorite world as well. To be able to entertain and educate at the 

same

time about the coolest rocks on the face of the planet has to rank up
there. It doesn't get much more exciting than that.


I could not agree more, we need to complement Geoff and Steve for 
their contributions to the Meteorite world!


Sonny



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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Sun, Nov 1, 2009 1:58 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] The Meteorite Wiki: For The World







Good Morning Listees, 
 


Hope everyone had a great week last week. I've had a great time this
past week, and have received a large number of emails and phone calls
from friends in this community congratulating me on creating the
Meteorite Wiki. I'd like to say thank you very much for all the kind
words, advice and suggestions for the site, I do appreciate all of it.
But I find it kind of weird to receive these kind words on something
that should have been created long ago. Why it wasn't I have no idea as
it's something that is greatly needed by the meteorite world, and now
the main stream. 
 


With increasing awareness of meteorite falls, fireballs, asteroids,
including the mighty mid-air explosions over Indonesia, and even a few
hoaxes as the media spins more and more fantastic tales about asteroids,
meteorites and meteors it's more important than ever to provide an
information source that will help educate the public about meteorites,
the events that surround them and the science behind them. 
 


This is especially important given the massive media attention and the
inaccurate data being reported. That is a huge problem in and of itself.
Poor reporting by lazy reporters and skewed data are constant problems. 
 


On a more positive note, we can be happy about the millions of viewers
that the new and exciting Meteorite Men cable television series on the
Science Channel will garner. A lot of these people will become
fascinated by them, and hopefully will be amazed enough to research more
information on them. The show I think will create a whole new group of
meteorite collectors and hunters through the ingenious adventure/science
theme of the show, and most likely will add a few new scientists to the
meteorite world as well. To be able to entertain and educate at the same
time about the coolest rocks on the face of the planet has to rank up
there. It doesn't get much more exciting than that. 
 


Meteorites will continue to grow in popularity as awareness increases.
Millions of people will watch the show yes, and millions more will watch
the new movie by director Roland Emmerich called 2012. 
 


Most are familiar with the ominous 2012 date from the Mayan calendar
because the calendar inexplicably ends on the date of December 21 2012,

Re: [meteorite-list] The Meteorite Wiki: For The World

2009-11-01 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi All,

I couldn't agree with Eric and Sonny enough!  All too often (speaking
for myself) it seems easy to forget the monumental achievements of
Geoff and Steve. Think about it, they have successfully completed
filming of the very first TV series about meteorites/meteorite hunting
in history! To me this was the next logical step in the evolution of
this hobby -Nininger, Haag, Geoff and Steve..

Congrats again, Geoff and Steve!


--
Ruben Garcia (Mr-Meteorite)

Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
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[meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,
I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that our good friend,
teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A. Paleface - passed
away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t know Jim or never
had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you missed out. Jim
was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention seeker.  Instead
he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go out of his way
to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal detecting than
anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved it.

With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite world would never
be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't be.

I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim Kriegh.
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm

-- 
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[meteorite-list] Fireball over Kansas video

2009-11-01 Thread Arizona Keith

Hello List

Just came across this, looks like a fireball, what do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgG7iOPG4G4feature=sub

Keith
Chandler, Az
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[meteorite-list] PARK FOREST - Fire Hydrant

2009-11-01 Thread Michael Blood
Does anyone on the list have a piece of the Park Forest Hammer that
Struck a Fire Hydrant? Does anyone have a photo of the  Fire Hydrant
That was struck?

RSVP off list.
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Re: [meteorite-list] PARK FOREST - Fire Hydrant

2009-11-01 Thread Matt Morgan
That is my piece. None for sale.
Photo of the piece of my collection gallery page at www.mhmeteorites.com. 
Go to the middle of page near the bottom to get to the Collection Gallery.

I do have a photo of the hydrant that I could scan.

Matt
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Subject: [meteorite-list] PARK FOREST - Fire Hydrant
Sent: Nov 1, 2009 1:34 PM

Does anyone on the list have a piece of the Park Forest Hammer that
Struck a Fire Hydrant? Does anyone have a photo of the  Fire Hydrant
That was struck?

RSVP off list.
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Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread Melanie Matthews

:( :( 
Never met him...this is tragic. My kind words and thoughts to his family. 
 
RIP Jim. 
---
Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what 
you're gonna get!







 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:21:42 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...

 Hi all,
 I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that our good friend,
 teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A. Paleface - passed
 away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t know Jim or never
 had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you missed out. Jim
 was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention seeker. Instead
 he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go out of his way
 to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal detecting than
 anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved it.

 With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite world would never
 be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't be.

 I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim Kriegh.
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm

 --
 Ruben Garcia (Mr-Meteorite)

 Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
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[meteorite-list] On a sad note ... Jim Smaller

2009-11-01 Thread bernd . pauli
We all know it will happen one day, and still, it is a tragic experience
because we pretend to ignore it as best we can. But it will happen!

I agree whole-heartedly with Melanie's RIP: May he rest
in peace in the realm of meteorites that he loved so much!

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread Ruben Garcia
Yes, Jim was a list member.



On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Melanie Matthews
spacewoman2...@hotmail.com wrote:

 :( :(
 Never met him...this is tragic. My kind words and thoughts to his family. Was 
 he on the list?

 RIP Jim.
 ---
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 IMCA: 2975
 eBay: metmel2775
 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what 
 you're gonna get!




 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:21:42 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...

 Hi all,
 I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that our good friend,
 teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A. Paleface - passed
 away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t know Jim or never
 had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you missed out. Jim
 was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention seeker.  Instead
 he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go out of his way
 to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal detecting than
 anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved it.

 With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite world would never
 be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't be.

 I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim Kriegh.
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm

 --
 Ruben Garcia (Mr-Meteorite)

 Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball over Kansas video

2009-11-01 Thread Rob Matson
Hi Keith,

Definitely looks like a bolide, and with an excellent star background
to support precise triangulation (if a second video or image should
surface).  In the mean time, I'm checking the NexRad Doppler radar
data to see if it showed up... --Rob

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Keith
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:37 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball over Kansas video


Hello List

Just came across this, looks like a fireball, what do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgG7iOPG4G4feature=sub

Keith
Chandler, Az

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[meteorite-list] AD: 662 grams of Etched Muoinionalusta

2009-11-01 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi All,

This is all I have left... Buy it now while it lasts.

ETCHED MUONIONALUSTA SALE: 6 Beautifully etched part slices!
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/muonionalusta-meteorites-for-sale.htm

Free Shipping in the USA on orders over $50

I'll be sending out another notice when I get more material in.

If you're looking for something specific please let me know, I may be 
able to help.


Regards,
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Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread Meteorites USA
I'm very sorry to hear of Jim's passing. My thoughts are with his family 
at this sad time.


I never had the privilege of meeting him, I heard nothing but good 
things about him, and he was always helpful to me on the forums and via 
email.


He will be missed...

Regards,
Eric



Ruben Garcia wrote:

Hi all,
I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that our good friend,
teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A. Paleface - passed
away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t know Jim or never
had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you missed out. Jim
was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention seeker.  Instead
he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go out of his way
to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal detecting than
anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved it.

With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite world would never
be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't be.

I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim Kriegh.
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm

  


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Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread dave carothers
While I did not have the pleasure of knowing Jim, I wish to extend my 
condolences and sincere sympathies  to his family and friends.  May he rest 
in peace.


Dave

- Original Message - 
From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...


Hi all,
I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that our good friend,
teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A. Paleface - passed
away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t know Jim or never
had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you missed out. Jim
was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention seeker.  Instead
he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go out of his way
to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal detecting than
anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved it.

With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite world would never
be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't be.

I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim Kriegh.
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm

--
Ruben Garcia (Mr-Meteorite)

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Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread Greg Stanley


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This is very sad news- I would like to give all my condolences
to Jim's family.  He will surely be
missed by many.
Greg S.






 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:21:42 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...

 Hi all,
 I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that our good friend,
 teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A. Paleface - passed
 away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t know Jim or never
 had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you missed out. Jim
 was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention seeker. Instead
 he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go out of his way
 to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal detecting than
 anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved it.

 With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite world would never
 be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't be.

 I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim Kriegh.
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm

 --
 Ruben Garcia (Mr-Meteorite)

 Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball over Kansas video -- faked or doctored?

2009-11-01 Thread Rob Matson
Unfortunately, on closer review of that YouTube video, something
is fishy:  the stars are visible BELOW the horizon (e.g., in the
grass on the bottom left). It's as if someone has superimposed a
star field image on top of the background scene. This calls into
question whether the bolide, too, has been doctored in.

The star field itself is a bit odd; I can make out Cassiopeia at
the top, left of center, but it's difficult to get the other
stars in the scene to line up with known counterparts. In any
case, I did check Wichita Doppler radar for the date/time in
question, but saw nothing.  --Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread Greg Catterton
While I did not know of him, Its always sad to lose someone who has added to 
the field of meteorites.
My best to his family and friends.

Greg C.

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...
 To: mrmeteor...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:54 PM
 
 
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 This is very sad news- I would like to give all my
 condolences
 to Jim's family.  He will surely be
 missed by many.
 Greg S.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:21:42 -0700
  From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...
 
  Hi all,
  I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that
 our good friend,
  teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A.
 Paleface - passed
  away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t
 know Jim or never
  had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you
 missed out. Jim
  was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention
 seeker. Instead
  he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go
 out of his way
  to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal
 detecting than
  anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved
 it.
 
  With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite
 world would never
  be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't
 be.
 
  I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim
 Kriegh.
  http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm
 
  --
  Ruben Garcia (Mr-Meteorite)
 
  Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
  Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
  Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball over Kansas video -- faked or doctored?

2009-11-01 Thread Melanie Matthews

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I think you're right - the ground=2C trees=2C buildings don't appear to lig=
ht up along with the sky. These 2012 hiseria proponents getting desperate? =
lol=20

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eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what=
 you're gonna get!







 From: mojave_meteori...@cox.net
 To: arizonake...@cox.net=3b meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sun=2C 1 Nov 2009 15:01:04 -0800
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball over Kansas video -- faked or doct=
ored?

 Unfortunately=2C on closer review of that YouTube video=2C something
 is fishy: the stars are visible BELOW the horizon (e.g.=2C in the
 grass on the bottom left). It's as if someone has superimposed a
 star field image on top of the background scene. This calls into
 question whether the bolide=2C too=2C has been doctored in.

 The star field itself is a bit odd=3B I can make out Cassiopeia at
 the top=2C left of center=2C but it's difficult to get the other
 stars in the scene to line up with known counterparts. In any
 case=2C I did check Wichita Doppler radar for the date/time in
 question=2C but saw nothing. --Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread countdeiro
Deepest regrets to the family and friends of James Smaller.
Count Deiro
 

-Original Message-
From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
Sent: Nov 1, 2009 6:49 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...

While I did not know of him, Its always sad to lose someone who has added to 
the field of meteorites.
My best to his family and friends.

Greg C.

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...
 To: mrmeteor...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:54 PM
 
 
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 This is very sad news- I would like to give all my
 condolences
 to Jim's family.  He will surely be
 missed by many.
 Greg S.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:21:42 -0700
  From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...
 
  Hi all,
  I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that
 our good friend,
  teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A.
 Paleface - passed
  away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t
 know Jim or never
  had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you
 missed out. Jim
  was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention
 seeker. Instead
  he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go
 out of his way
  to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal
 detecting than
  anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved
 it.
 
  With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite
 world would never
  be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't
 be.
 
  I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim
 Kriegh.
  http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm
 
  --
  Ruben Garcia (Mr-Meteorite)
 
  Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
  Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
  Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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[meteorite-list] AD: Over 50 Great Auctions Started, Several Buy It Nows That Are Deals and I need a NEW Home for a very special meteorite....

2009-11-01 Thread michael cottingham

Hello,

This weeks Auctions are started- keep checking because they are  
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Also I have listed my PARK FOREST - BARNES- House Smasher with a very  
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One of the finest Seymchan slice out there! A VERY SERIOUS SPECIMEN!
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 26-30, 2009

2009-11-01 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
October 26-30, 2009

o Aonia Terra Dunes (26 October 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091026a

o Aonia Terra Dunes (27 October 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091027a

o Kaiser Crater Dunes (28 October 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091028a

o Kaiser Crater Dunes (29 October 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091029a

o Rabe Crater Dunes (30 October 2009)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20091030a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] Jim Smaller

2009-11-01 Thread Jack Schrader
I never had the pleasure of meeting Jim Smaller but my son Devin was fortunate 
to know him personally.  Jim was truly one of the good guys in the meteorite 
world.  Devin was in the process of studying and classifying Sacramento Wash 
005 and put out a list message asking for a possible donation of this material 
to the U of A for his research.  Jim Smaller was the first to respond to 
Devin's request.  Jim was more than happy to donate some of the pieces he had 
found, one of which was one of the larger pieces found in the area.  Jim made 
this donation purely out of the goodness of his heart and never asked for any 
recognition or compensation.  Devin first met Jim while out hunting the 
Holbrook strewn field.  Devin's mother Kathleen wanted to find a Holbrook so 
she and Devin made the trip and ran into Jim in the strewn field.  Jim was 
encouraging and enthusiastic and more than willing to offer any and all 
information regarding the best spots to
 find stones in the strewn field to insure success for Devin and his Mother 
that day.  Devin has written a research paper on Sacramento Wash 005 to be 
published in 2010 and he wishes to dedicate this publication to the memory of 
Jim Smaller.  Devin and I would like to convey our most profound condolences to 
the family and friends of Jim Smaller.  The meteorite world has lost a real 
friend and Jim will not be forgotten.  Devin and Jack Schrader


  
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 2, 2009

2009-11-01 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_2_2009.html



  
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[meteorite-list] Solar Sail: Cosmos 2 (AD)

2009-11-01 Thread Mexicodoug

Dear List,

Carl Sagan's 75th birthday anniversary is coming up. This fateful date 
is November 9, 2009. (Also the 20th anniversary of the fall of the 
Berlin Wall). The Planetary Society has been somewhat quiet about the 
Solar Sail project progress, but the project has always been promoted 
with Sagan's quote:


We have lingered for too long on the shores of the cosmic ocean; it's 
time to set sail for the stars.


It seems they are leading up to a Sagan inspirational announcement on 
his birthday that concerns Cosmos 2, the replacement Solar Sailboat for 
the one that went down due to a failed booster stage from the launch of 
a modified Stingray ballistic missile launched by Calamari strategic 
nuclear submarine in 2005.


This is at least the third try -there have been arguably others- after 
the Planetary Society's first attempt.


Cosmos 1 in 2005 had 600 square meters [6,458 square feet] of sails).

Then, NASA attempted a drop in the bucket mission in 2008 called 
NanoSail-D...

It was a wee 9 square meters [100 square feet] of sail.

NASA's experiment crashed with private industry's budget SpaceX Falcon 
1 launch vehicle. The lower stage collided with active rocket as it 
continued thrusting after detachment and it went down with everything 
else aboard.


The Planetary Society's total budget for Cosmos 1 was $4.1 million of 
hard earned money passing the hat around to dedicated space and 
planetary exploration enthusiasts and Sagan's dedicated widow, Ann 
Druyan. This is chump change in the administrative and political 
bureaucracy - just doesn't fit the mold as a forward-looking 
exploratory projects when everyone is being hammered for results 
yesterday.


Cosmos 2 as a similar budget to Cosmo's 1, but it looks like they are 
trying to get it off the ground by knocking the cost down to a bit over 
half the original's cost after wheeling and dealing with NASA for the 
spare parts left over from the tiny NanoSail-D mission and possibly 
hitching a ride on a trustworthy Soyuz-Fregat booster in a smaller, 
lighter, but equally effective version as Cosmos 1 thanks to the 
collective experience and technology refinement since starting the 
initiatives.


The great news is that the Discovery Channel ponied up US $250,000 and 
things seem to really be set to take off if all continues well. Cosmos 
2 hopes to demonstrate the potential of Solar Sailing - a relatively 
unproven technology in the sense of steering with it and using it as 
the main propulsion and designing lightweight materials. (You can 
actully easily sail towards and away from the Sun). Solar Sailing was 
first demonstrated impressively in mission extending maneuvers for the 
Mariner 10 spacecraft at Mercury in 1974-75 by rotating the solar 
panels as sails and gaining several more superb passes at the swift 
planet.


This technology has always been on a back burner with NASA; Russia has 
dabbled in it as well. Solar Sailing, which uses the pressure developed 
from light bouncing off a mirrored surface, is pretty weak - probably 
on the order of ion beam engine for thrust. But ... photons are free 
and even more can be delivered by lasers from Earth (it is hoped the 
mission can demonstrate accelerating Cosmos 2 by Earth based lasers, 
too). Think of photons as nanometeoroids and the propulsion system is 
even more thrilling. Critical to all missions is the weight and 
duration of all fuels. A well designed Solar Sail could accelerate from 
earth's orbit to the Kuiper Belt in just 4-5 years and be the fastest 
moving object produced by humankind in short order (One could possibly 
overtake Voyager 1 while it is still functioning id we were really 
serious). A minor detail or two needs to be ironed out (like getting 
lightweight, durable materials, but these mere technical issues will 
be hiccups).


For everyone who has experienced the thrill of sailing, this is a 
beautiful adventure and everyone is invited to help and participate on 
the maiden sail. It is by far the closest we can come to financing a 
real space ship to prove a concept on a shoestring budget and a 
fraternity in participation with fellow space enthusiasts. (OK, it 
needs a boost beyond the atmosphere, but so does everyone else).


Please help the project if you can toss some money into the hat while 
we have the opportunity to actually do something without huge 
corporation logos and NASA or other space agency bureaucracy (well, 
let's just say it's a classified ad and we are all David Topman and 
Chuck Masterson). Donations are just a PayPal button away and just 
could make your space-faring descendents proud to recall how you 
participated in the first Sail's flower petals finally unfurling and 
with a controlled prototype accelerating to higher orbits above Earth. 
Really a majestic story when you think about it. The payload includes 
excellent cameras to take in the Earthly views and the minutiae in 
profiling how the unfurling takes place - something that is 

Re: [meteorite-list] On a Sad Note...........

2009-11-01 Thread Dolores Hill
I am sorry to hear about Jim Smaller's passing.  He was a kind, generous 
person who was genuinely interested in the meteorites he recovered.  He 
was one of those people with a lot to brag about... who didn't.


-Dolores Hill
UA - Lunar  Planetary Lab


Ruben Garcia wrote:

Hi all,
I was shocked, saddened, and surprised to learn that our good friend,
teacher, and meteorite hunter Jim Smaller - A.K.A. Paleface - passed
away on Oct 25th, 2009. For those of you that didn’t know Jim or never
had the opportunity to learn from or hunt with Jim you missed out. Jim
was never egotistical, self serving, or an attention seeker.  Instead
he was a patient, kind and generous man that would go out of his way
to help or instruct anyone. Jim knew more about metal detecting than
anyone else I know and his may meteorite finds proved it.

With the loss of Jim Kriegh I thought the meteorite world would never
be the same. With the loss of Jim Smaller it can't be.

I just added Jim to my tribute page along with Jim Kriegh.
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/tributepage.htm

  


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