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[meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread Meteorites USA

Not something new, but something that I find rather, well, perplexing...

Imagine the luck, or lack thereof for meteorite hunters and scientists, 
of the largest fireball in the United States in years, (at least since 
I've been into meteorites), most probably a decade, happening over one 
of the worlds most secretive and secure military bases on the face of 
the planet.


I mean come on, what are the chances?

Pretty good I would say... So is it there?

You decide...

-
By Michael McFall
News Editor: The Daily Utah Chronicle
Published: Friday, November 20, 2009
Updated: Saturday, November 21, 2009
http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/news/meteor-may-have-landed-in-area-52-1.2092650

Scientists have evidence that the massive meteor that turned the night 
sky into day for two seconds Wednesday night might have exploded in the 
atmosphere above the reputed Area 52—an extremely dangerous, mysterious 
patch of Utah desert.


Patrick Wiggins, NASA Ambassador to Utah and Robert Matson, senior 
scientist for Applied Science International, believe the cosmic rock 
blew up as it burned through the atmosphere above Tooele County, based 
on interpretations of recorded seismic activity information and the 
meteor’s perceived trajectory. The meteor pieces would’ve landed within 
a mile of where the meteor exploded -- but unfortunately, that means 
they would have landed in the Dugway Proving Ground—an area of the 
western Utah desert, bigger than Rhode Island, where the U.S. Army tests 
chemical, biological and radioactive warfare, an area that is rumored to 
be the new Area 51.


“It’s a restricted area,” Wiggins said. “I seriously doubt anyone can go 
out there.”


The U.S. Army tested thousands of bombs in the gigantic military 
reservation, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office. But the 
area is more colloquially known as Area 52 for all of the reported UFO 
sightings. Rumors circulate that the Dugway Proving Grounds is where the 
U.S. Government transferred all of the Area 51 alien research after 
public scrutiny drew too much attention.


No military personnel have found a meteor shard, said Dugway Proving 
Ground spokesman Al Vogel.


Wiggins said he heard a local Utah man is trying to get permission from 
the military to take an expedition out into the desert to find what’s 
left of the meteor, likely a straggler from the Leonid meteor shower 
that the Earth was passing.


“I had one gentleman call me about an hour ago,” Vogel said. “He works 
for the advertising agency as the Clark Planetarium as a client. He has 
friends who want to go meteor hunting.”


Vogel is strongly discouraging anyone from venturing into “Area 52” 
looking for the meteor. It’s an enormous remote desert with no cell 
phone reception, no military patrol passing any given area for more than 
a week, where they still regularly test weapons. There are even areas of 
the desert too dangerous even for approved military personnel to travel 
through, Vogel said.


Relu Burlacu, seismograph network manager, said there’s nothing to 
suggest where the meteor pieces might have landed, based on the U’s 
seismograph station’s recorded activity from Wednesday’s early-morning 
hours.


Vogel also denied that Dugway Proving Ground houses any alien 
technology, but acknowledged the reputation the military facility has 
garnered is entertaining to some of its employees.




Enjoy...

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread Darren Garrison
Reply variant 1.) Area 52?  Yes, it shares the dubious honor of being eclipsed
by it's near-neighbor with Formula 410, WD41, and Heinz 58 Sauce.

Reply variant 2.) Oh, it was a failed Goa'uld attack!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Command#Stargate_Command

Anyway, a new video clip:

http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/content/gen/breaking-news/index.html?p=11388
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Re: [meteorite-list] What is or is not a chondrule?

2009-11-24 Thread Phil Morgan
Yes, it was an interesting post.  And since the list is slow, I'll add to it.

I found an interesting chondrule (?) in an unclassified stone the
other day.  It's a couple of mm across and contains quite a bit of
metal.  Would this be some sort of chondrule or something else.

I posted a picture here:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/postingpics/MetalInChond.jpg

There were also some other more typical chondrules with quite a bit of
metal.  How often is visible metal incorporated in the interior of
chondrules.

Thanks,
Phil

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote
 Better late than never I always say. It was an interesting post too.

 Thanks,

 Jeff


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 Hi Elton,

 I couldn't help notice Walter originally asked this question way back July
 6, 2006.:) I don't have a point but thought it was funny.

 Carl


 Elton wrote:

 ...I don't know if you ever got an answer to your question but I had it
 marked for follow up...


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Re: [meteorite-list] What is or is not a chondrule?

2009-11-24 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
I wonder if this weird crystal structure found  in a slice of JaH 055 would 
qualify for being called a chondrule or a small  inclusion.  

Tom  Phillips

http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorite-pages/JaH-055-Crystal.h
tm

In  a message dated 11/24/2009 9:40:26 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
roxfromsp...@gmail.com writes:
Yes, it was an interesting post.  And  since the list is slow, I'll add to 
it.

I found an interesting chondrule  (?) in an unclassified stone the
other day.  It's a couple of mm across  and contains quite a bit of
metal.  Would this be some sort of chondrule  or something else.

I posted a picture  here:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/postingpics/MetalInChond.jpg

There  were also some other more typical chondrules with quite a bit of
metal.   How often is visible metal incorporated in the interior  of
chondrules.

Thanks,
Phil

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:59  PM, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au 
wrote
 Better late than  never I always say. It was an interesting post too.

  Thanks,

 Jeff


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 Sent: Tuesday, November 24,  2009 1:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What is or is not a  chondrule?



 Hi  Elton,

 I couldn't help notice Walter originally asked  this question way back 
July
 6, 2006.:) I don't have a point but  thought it was funny.

  Carl


 Elton  wrote:

 ...I don't know if you ever got an answer  to your question but I had it
 marked for follow  up...


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread Meteorites USA

Hey Rob,

Yes you're right about the area of land, and the chances of it hitting 
something of that size is just as good as another land mass that size, 
and it will probably give the conspiracy theorists lots of ammo to use 
for a long time to come.


However I was referring more to the unlucky fact that if it did land on 
the base, besides the oceans of the world, the base is perhaps the least 
most desirable place for a meteorite to land considering the possible 
loss to science if no one is ever able to recover any of the stones.


Hello! Some military personell aren't allowed into certain areas of the 
base, much less a civilian scientist or meteorite hunter. Who would 
think that an asteroid that floated around in our solar system for 
billions of years finally came screaming through our atmosphere only to 
land in the middle of a super secret military installation which no one 
but people with the highest security clearance has access to. Hmmm...


Jeez... Talk about a bummer...

Regards,
Eric





Matson, Robert D. wrote:


Hi Eric,

Statistically unfortunate, but yes, it fell on Dugway Proving Grounds.
(I'm sure this will be great fodder for George Noory, Coast-to-Coast AM,
conspiracy theorists in general, and Tin Hat People in particular.)

Given that Dugway is the size of Rhode Island, which is incidentally
large enough to accommodate every living man, woman and child standing
in their own 3-by-3 foot square (actually, about 2.86' x 2.86'), it is
not that improbable that a fall should occur there. Or at least no more
improbable than a fall over Rhode Island.

--Rob

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com on behalf of 
Meteorites USA

Sent: Tue 11/24/2009 12:24 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

Not something new, but something that I find rather, well, perplexing...

Imagine the luck, or lack thereof for meteorite hunters and scientists,
of the largest fireball in the United States in years, (at least since
I've been into meteorites), most probably a decade, happening over one
of the worlds most secretive and secure military bases on the face of
the planet.

I mean come on, what are the chances?

Pretty good I would say... So is it there?

You decide...

-
By Michael McFall
News Editor: The Daily Utah Chronicle
Published: Friday, November 20, 2009
Updated: Saturday, November 21, 2009
http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/news/meteor-may-have-landed-in-area-52-1.2092650

Scientists have evidence that the massive meteor that turned the night
sky into day for two seconds Wednesday night might have exploded in the
atmosphere above the reputed Area 52-an extremely dangerous, mysterious
patch of Utah desert.

Patrick Wiggins, NASA Ambassador to Utah and Robert Matson, senior
scientist for Applied Science International, believe the cosmic rock
blew up as it burned through the atmosphere above Tooele County, based
on interpretations of recorded seismic activity information and the
meteor's perceived trajectory. The meteor pieces would've landed within
a mile of where the meteor exploded -- but unfortunately, that means
they would have landed in the Dugway Proving Ground-an area of the
western Utah desert, bigger than Rhode Island, where the U.S. Army tests
chemical, biological and radioactive warfare, an area that is rumored to
be the new Area 51.

It's a restricted area, Wiggins said. I seriously doubt anyone can go
out there.

The U.S. Army tested thousands of bombs in the gigantic military
reservation, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office. But the
area is more colloquially known as Area 52 for all of the reported UFO
sightings. Rumors circulate that the Dugway Proving Grounds is where the
U.S. Government transferred all of the Area 51 alien research after
public scrutiny drew too much attention.

No military personnel have found a meteor shard, said Dugway Proving
Ground spokesman Al Vogel.

Wiggins said he heard a local Utah man is trying to get permission from
the military to take an expedition out into the desert to find what's
left of the meteor, likely a straggler from the Leonid meteor shower
that the Earth was passing.

I had one gentleman call me about an hour ago, Vogel said. He works
for the advertising agency as the Clark Planetarium as a client. He has
friends who want to go meteor hunting.

Vogel is strongly discouraging anyone from venturing into Area 52
looking for the meteor. It's an enormous remote desert with no cell
phone reception, no military patrol passing any given area for more than
a week, where they still regularly test weapons. There are even areas of
the desert too dangerous even for approved military personnel to travel
through, Vogel said.

Relu Burlacu, seismograph network manager, said there's nothing to
suggest where the meteor pieces might have landed, based on the U's
seismograph station's recorded activity 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread Greg Stanley

Rob:

Is there any way the strewn field could be on the 'edge' of the property line 
and perhaps some pieces are outside of the base?

I'm kinda surprised no one (within the military) will look for it to donate to 
the Smithsonian.

Oh well,

Greg S.


 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:57:27 -0800
 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com
 To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

 Hey Rob,

 Yes you're right about the area of land, and the chances of it hitting
 something of that size is just as good as another land mass that size,
 and it will probably give the conspiracy theorists lots of ammo to use
 for a long time to come.

 However I was referring more to the unlucky fact that if it did land on
 the base, besides the oceans of the world, the base is perhaps the least
 most desirable place for a meteorite to land considering the possible
 loss to science if no one is ever able to recover any of the stones.

 Hello! Some military personell aren't allowed into certain areas of the
 base, much less a civilian scientist or meteorite hunter. Who would
 think that an asteroid that floated around in our solar system for
 billions of years finally came screaming through our atmosphere only to
 land in the middle of a super secret military installation which no one
 but people with the highest security clearance has access to. Hmmm...

 Jeez... Talk about a bummer...

 Regards,
 Eric





 Matson, Robert D. wrote:

 Hi Eric,

 Statistically unfortunate, but yes, it fell on Dugway Proving Grounds.
 (I'm sure this will be great fodder for George Noory, Coast-to-Coast AM,
 conspiracy theorists in general, and Tin Hat People in particular.)

 Given that Dugway is the size of Rhode Island, which is incidentally
 large enough to accommodate every living man, woman and child standing
 in their own 3-by-3 foot square (actually, about 2.86' x 2.86'), it is
 not that improbable that a fall should occur there. Or at least no more
 improbable than a fall over Rhode Island.

 --Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com on behalf of
 Meteorites USA
 Sent: Tue 11/24/2009 12:24 AM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

 Not something new, but something that I find rather, well, perplexing...

 Imagine the luck, or lack thereof for meteorite hunters and scientists,
 of the largest fireball in the United States in years, (at least since
 I've been into meteorites), most probably a decade, happening over one
 of the worlds most secretive and secure military bases on the face of
 the planet.

 I mean come on, what are the chances?

 Pretty good I would say... So is it there?

 You decide...

 -
 By Michael McFall
 News Editor: The Daily Utah Chronicle
 Published: Friday, November 20, 2009
 Updated: Saturday, November 21, 2009
 http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/news/meteor-may-have-landed-in-area-52-1.2092650

 Scientists have evidence that the massive meteor that turned the night
 sky into day for two seconds Wednesday night might have exploded in the
 atmosphere above the reputed Area 52-an extremely dangerous, mysterious
 patch of Utah desert.

 Patrick Wiggins, NASA Ambassador to Utah and Robert Matson, senior
 scientist for Applied Science International, believe the cosmic rock
 blew up as it burned through the atmosphere above Tooele County, based
 on interpretations of recorded seismic activity information and the
 meteor's perceived trajectory. The meteor pieces would've landed within
 a mile of where the meteor exploded -- but unfortunately, that means
 they would have landed in the Dugway Proving Ground-an area of the
 western Utah desert, bigger than Rhode Island, where the U.S. Army tests
 chemical, biological and radioactive warfare, an area that is rumored to
 be the new Area 51.

 It's a restricted area, Wiggins said. I seriously doubt anyone can go
 out there.

 The U.S. Army tested thousands of bombs in the gigantic military
 reservation, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office. But the
 area is more colloquially known as Area 52 for all of the reported UFO
 sightings. Rumors circulate that the Dugway Proving Grounds is where the
 U.S. Government transferred all of the Area 51 alien research after
 public scrutiny drew too much attention.

 No military personnel have found a meteor shard, said Dugway Proving
 Ground spokesman Al Vogel.

 Wiggins said he heard a local Utah man is trying to get permission from
 the military to take an expedition out into the desert to find what's
 left of the meteor, likely a straggler from the Leonid meteor shower
 that the Earth was passing.

 I had one gentleman call me about an hour ago, Vogel said. He works
 for the advertising agency as the Clark Planetarium as a client. He has
 friends who want to go 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Greg,

It doesn't look like it, based on triangulation of four cameras and
triangulation of the acoustic (seismic) data.  The closest margin
would be the northeast boundary of the base, but I think this point
is still quite far from where the nearest (lightest) meteorites
could have fallen.  --Rob

-Original Message-
From: Greg Stanley [mailto:stanleygr...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:11 AM
To: e...@meteoritesusa.com; Matson, Robert D.
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52


Rob:

Is there any way the strewn field could be on the 'edge' of the property
line and perhaps some pieces are outside of the base?

I'm kinda surprised no one (within the military) will look for it to
donate to the Smithsonian.

Oh well,

Greg S.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread Meteorites USA
Just a thought, if this meteorite is ever found, and if it's on the 
base, would it be called the Dugway meteorite? ;)


Regards,
Eric





Matson, Robert D. wrote:

Hi Greg,

It doesn't look like it, based on triangulation of four cameras and
triangulation of the acoustic (seismic) data.  The closest margin
would be the northeast boundary of the base, but I think this point
is still quite far from where the nearest (lightest) meteorites
could have fallen.  --Rob

-Original Message-
From: Greg Stanley [mailto:stanleygr...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:11 AM

To: e...@meteoritesusa.com; Matson, Robert D.
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52


Rob:

Is there any way the strewn field could be on the 'edge' of the property
line and perhaps some pieces are outside of the base?

I'm kinda surprised no one (within the military) will look for it to
donate to the Smithsonian.

Oh well,

Greg S.

  


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread countdeiro
As a long time neighbor (I have land in Nevada across the border north of 
Baker, Utah) of the Toole Facility, over the years I have met a number of 
scientists and test site workers. From what I gathered from them, the main 
problem with going into the restricted areas is that their are pockets of 
decomposed, but still toxic, chemical and bilogical agents. 

I recall a flock of Basque owned sheep that grazed at the periphery and dropped 
dead in their tracks. The 22 year old herder by the name of Roberto Ergitui is 
said to have been found dead in his camp wagon with his dog. I wouldn't venture 
into the area even in the absence of patrols. There is a reason there are no 
ground patrols. 

Count deiro  

-Original Message-
From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
Sent: Nov 24, 2009 3:24 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

Not something new, but something that I find rather, well, perplexing...

Imagine the luck, or lack thereof for meteorite hunters and scientists, 
of the largest fireball in the United States in years, (at least since 
I've been into meteorites), most probably a decade, happening over one 
of the worlds most secretive and secure military bases on the face of 
the planet.

I mean come on, what are the chances?

Pretty good I would say... So is it there?

You decide...

-
By Michael McFall
News Editor: The Daily Utah Chronicle
Published: Friday, November 20, 2009
Updated: Saturday, November 21, 2009
http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/news/meteor-may-have-landed-in-area-52-1.2092650

Scientists have evidence that the massive meteor that turned the night 
sky into day for two seconds Wednesday night might have exploded in the 
atmosphere above the reputed Area 52—an extremely dangerous, mysterious 
patch of Utah desert.

Patrick Wiggins, NASA Ambassador to Utah and Robert Matson, senior 
scientist for Applied Science International, believe the cosmic rock 
blew up as it burned through the atmosphere above Tooele County, based 
on interpretations of recorded seismic activity information and the 
meteor’s perceived trajectory. The meteor pieces would’ve landed within 
a mile of where the meteor exploded -- but unfortunately, that means 
they would have landed in the Dugway Proving Ground—an area of the 
western Utah desert, bigger than Rhode Island, where the U.S. Army tests 
chemical, biological and radioactive warfare, an area that is rumored to 
be the new Area 51.

“It’s a restricted area,” Wiggins said. “I seriously doubt anyone can go 
out there.”

The U.S. Army tested thousands of bombs in the gigantic military 
reservation, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office. But the 
area is more colloquially known as Area 52 for all of the reported UFO 
sightings. Rumors circulate that the Dugway Proving Grounds is where the 
U.S. Government transferred all of the Area 51 alien research after 
public scrutiny drew too much attention.

No military personnel have found a meteor shard, said Dugway Proving 
Ground spokesman Al Vogel.

Wiggins said he heard a local Utah man is trying to get permission from 
the military to take an expedition out into the desert to find what’s 
left of the meteor, likely a straggler from the Leonid meteor shower 
that the Earth was passing.

“I had one gentleman call me about an hour ago,” Vogel said. “He works 
for the advertising agency as the Clark Planetarium as a client. He has 
friends who want to go meteor hunting.”

Vogel is strongly discouraging anyone from venturing into “Area 52” 
looking for the meteor. It’s an enormous remote desert with no cell 
phone reception, no military patrol passing any given area for more than 
a week, where they still regularly test weapons. There are even areas of 
the desert too dangerous even for approved military personnel to travel 
through, Vogel said.

Relu Burlacu, seismograph network manager, said there’s nothing to 
suggest where the meteor pieces might have landed, based on the U’s 
seismograph station’s recorded activity from Wednesday’s early-morning 
hours.

Vogel also denied that Dugway Proving Ground houses any alien 
technology, but acknowledged the reputation the military facility has 
garnered is entertaining to some of its employees.



Enjoy...

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA
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[meteorite-list] Part of Dugway strewn field may be safely searchable

2009-11-24 Thread Matson, Robert D.
I quite agree that no meteorite is worth getting anthrax, or something
equally nasty. That said, the predicted strewnfield does get quite
close to one of the east-west roads crossing the base -- in fact, the
strewn field may actually intersect this road. So I would think that
the areas immediately adjacent to the road would be safely searchable
assuming some consideration was made by the military to keep hot zones
away from high traffic areas.  --Rob

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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:44 AM
To: Meteorites USA; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

As a long time neighbor (I have land in Nevada across the border north
of Baker, Utah) of the Toole Facility, over the years I have met a
number of scientists and test site workers. From what I gathered from
them, the main problem with going into the restricted areas is that
their are pockets of decomposed, but still toxic, chemical and bilogical
agents. 

I recall a flock of Basque owned sheep that grazed at the periphery and
dropped dead in their tracks. The 22 year old herder by the name of
Roberto Ergitui is said to have been found dead in his camp wagon with
his dog. I wouldn't venture into the area even in the absence of
patrols. There is a reason there are no ground patrols. 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread Greg Stanley

How about the Area 52 meteorite.

Greg S.


 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:29:45 -0800
 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com
 To: robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 CC: stanleygr...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

 Just a thought, if this meteorite is ever found, and if it's on the
 base, would it be called the Dugway meteorite? ;)

 Regards,
 Eric





 Matson, Robert D. wrote:
 Hi Greg,

 It doesn't look like it, based on triangulation of four cameras and
 triangulation of the acoustic (seismic) data. The closest margin
 would be the northeast boundary of the base, but I think this point
 is still quite far from where the nearest (lightest) meteorites
 could have fallen. --Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Stanley [mailto:stanleygr...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:11 AM
 To: e...@meteoritesusa.com; Matson, Robert D.
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52


 Rob:

 Is there any way the strewn field could be on the 'edge' of the property
 line and perhaps some pieces are outside of the base?

 I'm kinda surprised no one (within the military) will look for it to
 donate to the Smithsonian.

 Oh well,

 Greg S.



  
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[meteorite-list] Metal detector Question

2009-11-24 Thread dean bessey
If somebody was wanting a metal detector with plans to use it searching for 
meteorites, gold nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal 
detector to get?
What things in general does one look for in buying a metal detector?
Thanks
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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question

2009-11-24 Thread Ruben Garcia
Meteorite Detectors?

A good top of the line gold machine is what most meteorite hunters use
in their quest to collect these cosmic visitors we call meteorites.
However, one must not overlook the hundreds of hours that they put
into learning the subtleties of their particular machine. Every metal
detector is different and has its own strengths and weaknesses. But
remember, the pros never rely on just the squeal of a metal detector
to know if they found a meteorite.

Visual meteorite I.D. in the field is the key. This is because even
the best metal detectors in the world will only tell you if the rock
in question has enough mineralization to set it off. There is no such
thing as a meteorite detector. To make matters worse there is a
large percentage of worthless earth rocks that will make a metal
detector sound off. This type of rock is known as a “hot rock”.
Therefore one can see how using only a metal detector to find a
meteorite among a sea of hot rocks can be an impossible task.

However, If a good metal detector is what you want here are the three
best candidates for gold and meteorites.

Minelab 3000About $3000
Whites GMT  About $800
Fisher Gold Bug 2 About $800


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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question

2009-11-24 Thread Ruben Garcia
Meteorite Detectors?

A good top of the line gold machine is what most meteorite hunters use
in their quest to collect these cosmic visitors we call meteorites.
However, one must not overlook the hundreds of hours that they put
into learning the subtleties of their particular machine. Every metal
detector is different and has its own strengths and weaknesses. But
remember, the pros never rely on just the squeal of a metal detector
to know if they found a meteorite.

Visual meteorite I.D. in the field is the key. This is because even
the best metal detectors in the world will only tell you if the rock
in question has enough mineralization to set it off. There is no such
thing as a meteorite detector. To make matters worse there is a
large percentage of worthless earth rocks that will make a metal
detector sound off. This type of rock is known as a “hot rock”.
Therefore one can see how using only a metal detector to find a
meteorite among a sea of hot rocks can be an impossible task.

However, If a good metal detector is what you want here are the three
best candidates for gold and meteorites.

Minelab 3000About $3000
Whites GMT  About $800
Fisher Gold Bug 2 About $800


-- 
Rock On!

Ruben Garcia

Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread ensoramanda

Hi All,

Yes...after reading this..look at the lower paragraphs...It's the last 
place you would want to go hunting...who would beleive it could land in 
such a place?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugway_sheep_incident

Graham, UK

countde...@earthlink.net wrote:

As a long time neighbor (I have land in Nevada across the border north of Baker, Utah) of the Toole Facility, over the years I have met a number of scientists and test site workers. From what I gathered from them, the main problem with going into the restricted areas is that their are pockets of decomposed, but still toxic, chemical and bilogical agents. 

I recall a flock of Basque owned sheep that grazed at the periphery and dropped dead in their tracks. The 22 year old herder by the name of Roberto Ergitui is said to have been found dead in his camp wagon with his dog. I wouldn't venture into the area even in the absence of patrols. There is a reason there are no ground patrols. 

Count deiro  


-Original Message-
 


From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
Sent: Nov 24, 2009 3:24 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52

Not something new, but something that I find rather, well, perplexing...

Imagine the luck, or lack thereof for meteorite hunters and scientists, 
of the largest fireball in the United States in years, (at least since 
I've been into meteorites), most probably a decade, happening over one 
of the worlds most secretive and secure military bases on the face of 
the planet.


I mean come on, what are the chances?

Pretty good I would say... So is it there?

You decide...

-
By Michael McFall
News Editor: The Daily Utah Chronicle
Published: Friday, November 20, 2009
Updated: Saturday, November 21, 2009
http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/news/meteor-may-have-landed-in-area-52-1.2092650

Scientists have evidence that the massive meteor that turned the night 
sky into day for two seconds Wednesday night might have exploded in the 
atmosphere above the reputed Area 52—an extremely dangerous, mysterious 
patch of Utah desert.


Patrick Wiggins, NASA Ambassador to Utah and Robert Matson, senior 
scientist for Applied Science International, believe the cosmic rock 
blew up as it burned through the atmosphere above Tooele County, based 
on interpretations of recorded seismic activity information and the 
meteor’s perceived trajectory. The meteor pieces would’ve landed within 
a mile of where the meteor exploded -- but unfortunately, that means 
they would have landed in the Dugway Proving Ground—an area of the 
western Utah desert, bigger than Rhode Island, where the U.S. Army tests 
chemical, biological and radioactive warfare, an area that is rumored to 
be the new Area 51.


“It’s a restricted area,” Wiggins said. “I seriously doubt anyone can go 
out there.”


The U.S. Army tested thousands of bombs in the gigantic military 
reservation, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office. But the 
area is more colloquially known as Area 52 for all of the reported UFO 
sightings. Rumors circulate that the Dugway Proving Grounds is where the 
U.S. Government transferred all of the Area 51 alien research after 
public scrutiny drew too much attention.


No military personnel have found a meteor shard, said Dugway Proving 
Ground spokesman Al Vogel.


Wiggins said he heard a local Utah man is trying to get permission from 
the military to take an expedition out into the desert to find what’s 
left of the meteor, likely a straggler from the Leonid meteor shower 
that the Earth was passing.


“I had one gentleman call me about an hour ago,” Vogel said. “He works 
for the advertising agency as the Clark Planetarium as a client. He has 
friends who want to go meteor hunting.”


Vogel is strongly discouraging anyone from venturing into “Area 52” 
looking for the meteor. It’s an enormous remote desert with no cell 
phone reception, no military patrol passing any given area for more than 
a week, where they still regularly test weapons. There are even areas of 
the desert too dangerous even for approved military personnel to travel 
through, Vogel said.


Relu Burlacu, seismograph network manager, said there’s nothing to 
suggest where the meteor pieces might have landed, based on the U’s 
seismograph station’s recorded activity from Wednesday’s early-morning 
hours.


Vogel also denied that Dugway Proving Ground houses any alien 
technology, but acknowledged the reputation the military facility has 
garnered is entertaining to some of its employees.




Enjoy...

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA
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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question

2009-11-24 Thread Mark Bowling
Hi Dean,

I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins.  A machine for all 
around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those different 
styles of hunting.  So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines (one for 
gold/meteorites and one for coins).

For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were 
developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground.

They also make good coin machines.  They may have a multi-use machine that does 
a good job.   The newer multi-frequency machines would be something to look at. 
 But again, 2 machines is better.  Having a deep seeking gold machine, along 
with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small targets would 
increase the probability of success.

I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well.  I also have a coin machine 
that can hunt gold, but I always put it down and use my dedicated gold machine 
instead.

Good luck,

Mark B.
Vail, AZ


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM
 If somebody was wanting a metal
 detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold
 nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal
 detector to get?
 What things in general does one look for in buying a metal
 detector?
 Thanks
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[meteorite-list] The Meteorite Wiki is LIVE!

2009-11-24 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi guys,

Just a heads up... The Meteorite Wiki is back up and running. There's 
been some minor changes and no data loss on the transfer/upgrade of the 
server.


This was a good test to see if we were able to move the wiki without 
much trouble. It has been moved successfully and we're happy at the 
speed of which it was reimplemented on the server. Thanks everyone for 
your patience while we make it better for everyone.


You can view the site here: www.meteoritewiki.com

Regards,
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[meteorite-list] Subject: Re: Meteor may have landed in Area 52

2009-11-24 Thread Steve Schoner
Really,

A great place for those newbe's that would just die for a chance to look for 
meteorites.

As for me, no longer able to actively search, I think it best to wish one fell 
through my roof before I die.

Steve Schoner
IMCA 4470


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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:15:17 +
From: ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor may have landed in Area 52
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Hi All,

Yes...after reading this..look at the lower paragraphs...It's the last 
place you would want to go hunting...who would beleive it could land in 
such a place?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugway_sheep_incident

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[meteorite-list] Gauteng, South Africa 21Nov09 Bolide

2009-11-24 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,
  I have just posted two videos from the Gauteng 21Nov09 Fireball in South 
Africa.
South Africa Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng Meteor 21NOV09 Videos 24NOV09:

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/south-africa-meteormeteorite-news.html

---
Meteor/Meteorite News- 24NOV09

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-24nov09.html

More Eyewitness accounts of the meteor
Jacaranda 94.2
Botswana- These Meteorite created a complete daylight effect as far as I could 
see, except it was like a quartz halogen pure white light, which gradually 
faded to a ...

Probe underway into Gauteng meteor sighting
Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
Science and Technology Minister Naledi Pandor on Monday requested detailed 
information about the meteor that passed over Gauteng at the weekend. ...

Meteor lights up night sky
Citizen
JOHANNESBURG - Amateur astronomers are star-struck with the possibility that a 
meteorite might have crashed to earth somewhere in South Africa on Saturday ...

Gauteng abuzz after meteor sighting
Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
Eyewitness News has also received reports of the meteor being spotted as far as 
Botswana. “There was a very bright explosion, where the sky lit up as if it ...

Search on for alleged meteorite
Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
Amateur astronomists across Gauteng said on Monday they were focussing their 
search for an alleged meteorite, which allegedly plummeted to earth on Saturday 
...

Meteor/Meteorite News- 23NOV09:

Meteorite lights up Gauteng sky
Times LIVE
Amazed Johannesburg and Pretoria residents could hardly believe their eyes when 
a five-second lightning flash, thought to be a meteorite, lit up the night ...
--
Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng, South Africa 21NOV09 Meteor 22NOV09:

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-22nov09.html

Meteor lights up Gauteng
Times LIVE
It was a meteor which lit up the skies over Johannesburg and Pretoria on 
Saturday night, an astronomer has confirmed. The Leonid meteor shower in 
Thailand ...


Meteor believed to be spotted in Gauteng
Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
Johannesburg and Pretoria residents have come forward, claiming they spotted a 
meteor in the skies on Saturday night. People in Gauteng saw the bright light 
...

Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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[meteorite-list] Area 52 Meteorite Hunt Proposal

2009-11-24 Thread countdeiro
Hi Greg and List,

Being quite familiar with the area if someone would provide definitive 
position estimates of the location of the fall, I would provide information on 
how to access the area. Safely. As of this writing..it appears we are talking 
about East of Granite Mountain in an area that would be accessible using State 
Highway 174..the Brush Road and the old Granite Ranch Road (Pony Express 
Route). Depending on the plotted trajectory...and I'm getting a few phone calls 
returned that indicate the heavier material could of fallen well West of the 
Dugway Range Boundary. I need more info. One of my friends at a cattle camp in 
the are swears he heard sonic booms that were multiple and too close together 
to be supersonic low level aircraft. Which frequent the area all the way to 
Sevier Lake. Usually they project a single boom. These he claims were sharper 
and at least three close,but seperate. He was sheltering from the wind so did 
not see any visual phenomenem.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Gauteng, South Africa 21Nov09 Bolide

2009-11-24 Thread Greg Stanley

List:

That one is really neat - perhaps it could be more helpful to triangulate as 
the meteor went through the clouds.  This site has some maps.

Greg S.


http://saweatherobserver.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteor-shower-sightings-21-november-at.html




 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:21:23 -0800
 From: drtan...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteor...@meteorobs.org
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Gauteng, South Africa 21Nov09 Bolide

 Dear List,
 I have just posted two videos from the Gauteng 21Nov09 Fireball in South 
 Africa.
 South Africa Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng Meteor 21NOV09 Videos 24NOV09:

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/south-africa-meteormeteorite-news.html

 ---
 Meteor/Meteorite News- 24NOV09

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-24nov09.html

 More Eyewitness accounts of the meteor
 Jacaranda 94.2
 Botswana- These Meteorite created a complete daylight effect as far as I 
 could see, except it was like a quartz halogen pure white light, which 
 gradually faded to a ...

 Probe underway into Gauteng meteor sighting
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Science and Technology Minister Naledi Pandor on Monday requested detailed 
 information about the meteor that passed over Gauteng at the weekend. ...

 Meteor lights up night sky
 Citizen
 JOHANNESBURG - Amateur astronomers are star-struck with the possibility that 
 a meteorite might have crashed to earth somewhere in South Africa on Saturday 
 ...

 Gauteng abuzz after meteor sighting
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Eyewitness News has also received reports of the meteor being spotted as far 
 as Botswana. “There was a very bright explosion, where the sky lit up as if 
 it ...

 Search on for alleged meteorite
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Amateur astronomists across Gauteng said on Monday they were focussing their 
 search for an alleged meteorite, which allegedly plummeted to earth on 
 Saturday ...

 Meteor/Meteorite News- 23NOV09:

 Meteorite lights up Gauteng sky
 Times LIVE
 Amazed Johannesburg and Pretoria residents could hardly believe their eyes 
 when a five-second lightning flash, thought to be a meteorite, lit up the 
 night ...
 --
 Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng, South Africa 21NOV09 Meteor 22NOV09:

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-22nov09.html

 Meteor lights up Gauteng
 Times LIVE
 It was a meteor which lit up the skies over Johannesburg and Pretoria on 
 Saturday night, an astronomer has confirmed. The Leonid meteor shower in 
 Thailand ...


 Meteor believed to be spotted in Gauteng
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Johannesburg and Pretoria residents have come forward, claiming they spotted 
 a meteor in the skies on Saturday night. People in Gauteng saw the bright 
 light ...

 Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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Re: [meteorite-list] What is or is not a chondrule?

2009-11-24 Thread Carl 's

Hi Tom,

I'd say neither. It looks like a little graveyard. Maybe two graveyards divided 
by a picket fence. You have very sharp eyes to have noticed this!

Carl


Tom Philips wrote:

... I wonder if this weird crystal structure found  in a slice of JaH 055 
would 
 qualify for being called a chondrule or a small  inclusion...
 

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[meteorite-list] MRO Team Plans Uplink of Protective Files

2009-11-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-177  

Team Plans Uplink of Protective Files
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
November 24, 2009

PASADENA, Calif. -- The team operating NASA's Mars Reconnaissance
Orbiter plans to uplink protective files to the spacecraft next week as
one step toward resuming the orbiter's research and relay activities.

Since the orbiter spontaneously rebooted its computer on Aug. 26, flight
team engineers have been examining possible root causes and
repercussions of that incident and three similar events this year on
Feb. 23, June 3 and Aug. 6.  Meanwhile, the team has kept the spacecraft
in a precautionary, minimally active status called safe mode.

The four reboots involved a device, called the computer module
interface controller, that controls which of two redundant main
computers on the spacecraft is active. Still undetermined is whether
trouble lies with that controller itself or with a voltage glitch
elsewhere on the spacecraft. The Aug. 6 reboot, though not the other
three, prompted a switch from one computer to its backup twin. More than
100 factors are under consideration as possible root causes.

Engineers' analysis of the reboots has identified a possible, though
unlikely, scenario that, should it occur, could jeopardize the
spacecraft. This scenario would require two computer reboots, each worse
than any so far, occurring within about a minute of each other in a
certain pattern. The effect would be that neither of the redundant
computers would remember that the spacecraft is in orbit around Mars
instead of awaiting launch. The team has developed and tested a
preventive-care measure to eliminate this possibility.

The preventive care requires amending some data files in the computers'
non-volatile, or flash memories where the computers check for default
settings when they reboot. However, overwriting information in those
files can entail risk, especially if the spacecraft were to experience
another reboot with the process only partially completed. A process
developed and tested in recent weeks to minimize that risk will take
several days to implement.  The team will uplink, install and verify the
changes in a careful sequence.

We plan to begin uplinking protective files next week, said Mars
Reconnaissance Orbiter Project Manager Jim Erickson of NASA's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.  This process is to bulletproof
the spacecraft against a remote vulnerability that our team identified.
Meanwhile, analysis of possible root causes for the four reboots this
year continues as another important part of our path toward resuming
science operations.

The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter uses six instruments to examine Mars in
detail, from subsurface layers to the top of the atmosphere. It began
its investigations in 2006, has provided more data about Mars than all
other missions combined, and last year completed its primary science
phase. Continuing science observations are planned when the spacecraft
is brought out of safe mode, but no specific date for that has been set.

The precautionary steps we are taking are not driven by the calendar,
but by our commitment to care for this valuable national resource,
Erickson said. We are all eager to have science observations resume as
soon as a properly cautious process allows.

Guy Webster 818-354-6278
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov

2009-177

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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question

2009-11-24 Thread Erik Fisler

A good gold machine can find coins,  a good coin machine can't necessarily find 
gold.
White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are great,
Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT,
and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great!
or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and buy some really expensive
detectors that are HOO on gold and meteorites but have tons of interference 
and pinpointing issues...


I can take my GMT to the park and it's like shooting fish in a barrel...

depends on if you are looking for small targets with low metal,
or deep metal targets...

happy hunting!

[Erik]


 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800
 From: mina...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
 
 Hi Dean,
 
 I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins.  A machine for all 
 around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those 
 different styles of hunting.  So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines 
 (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins).
 
 For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were 
 developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground.
 
 They also make good coin machines.  They may have a multi-use machine that 
 does a good job.   The newer multi-frequency machines would be something to 
 look at.  But again, 2 machines is better.  Having a deep seeking gold 
 machine, along with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small 
 targets would increase the probability of success.
 
 I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well.  I also have a coin machine 
 that can hunt gold, but I always put it down and use my dedicated gold 
 machine instead.
 
 Good luck,
 
 Mark B.
 Vail, AZ
 
 
 --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM
 If somebody was wanting a metal
 detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold
 nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal
 detector to get?
 What things in general does one look for in buying a metal
 detector?
 Thanks
 DEAN
 
 
       
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[meteorite-list] Facebook Problems

2009-11-24 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi all,

Are any of you having problems with Facebook? Any log in problems, or 
problem notifications by Facebook saying you can't log in?


Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA


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[meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FORSALE

2009-11-24 Thread steve arnold
Hi and good evening list.I have a few meteorites forsale.So here they are:
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1.THUATHE  81 gram individual   hupe 
meteorites   $200- 
2.GAO  245.5 gram individual  farmer card   $200-
3.GAO  197 gram individual  notkin card  $150-
4.UNCLASSIFIED IMB 250 gram endcut    $150-
5.MORRISTOWN   17 GRAM slice   lang card   $650-
6.GAO  27 gram oriented individual  $120-
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Shipping will be free to anywhere.And please off list.Picks upon request.
 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! 
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 25, 2009

2009-11-24 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_25_2009.html



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[meteorite-list] HUGE Chondrule - NWA 5486 Anomalous NWA 4470 Auctions - AD

2009-11-24 Thread Greg Hupe

Hello All,

After Michael Johnson posted the NWA 5486 Picture-of-the-Day on Sunday, 
November 22, 2009, I have received numerous inquiries if NWA 5486 was 
available. This is the meteorite with the HUGE 'Chondrule-Like' Object as 
described by the classifying scientist. I felt the most fair way to make 
this One-of-a-Kind meteorite available to all, was to place it on eBay at 
a very low opening offer. So, without further typing, here is a link to this 
auction which ends next Tuesday, December 1, 2009:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-5486-Meteorite-with-HUGE-Chondrule-One-of-a-Kind_W0QQitemZ350284148343QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518e8fee77

Not to be outdone by the Show-Stopper above, the new Anomalous Eucrite, NWA 
4470, which I announced last week, will be ending tomorrow, (Wednesday, 
November 25th). Most have a very VERY favorable opening price which may 
initiate a click of the, Buy it Now button!!! Six pieces started at just 
99 cents!! All can be seen by clicking here:

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40_trksid=p3984.m38.l1313_nkw=nwa+4470+meteorite_sacat=See-All-Categories

In addition to these fantastic offerings, please check out my other auctions 
ending tomorrow, (Wednesday, November 25th.) I have included some of the 
largest specimens of certain meteorites offered for quite some time. Here 
are some highlights:


NWA 482 THIN SECTION (Never offered Lower! Ends next Tuesday!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=350284153095ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
NWA 2932 Mesosiderite 103.8g Polished End Cut (has LARGE metal Nodule)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170408914903ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
NWA 2999 Angrite 346mg (Large enough to see matrix, small enough to bid on 
another auction!!)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=350281144369ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
NWA 3118 CV3 w/ HUGE CAI (measures 11mm x 8mm) 7.942g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=350281145504ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
NWA 3133 Anomalous 2.872g Polished Slice (Nice surface area!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170408916818ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
NWA 3163 Lunar Granulitic End Cut 1.134g (View overall matrix!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=350281150555ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
NWA 4473 (Lunar-Like) Polymict Diogenite 27.9g Slice (Gorgeous!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170408925108ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite Slice 18.1g (Only 2 more slices left!!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170408928124ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
Muonionalusta Slice 286g NICE (going cheap!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170408933553ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

Be sure to check out all of my auctions by clicking here: 
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault


Thank you for checking out what I have to offer! If you are bidding, and/or 
Buying-it-Now, Good Luck in winning what you are after!!


Happy Holidays!
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
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Click here for my current eBay auctions: 
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Re: [meteorite-list] What is or is not a chondrule?

2009-11-24 Thread MEM
Hello Tom,  excellent photo!
I believe this is one of those heated-cooled-heated-quenched cycled 
chondrules and the crosses are the seed/loci of crystallization: the 
de-vitrification of the glass matrix into ordered alignment of the molecules( 
aka crystallized solid).  In other words, this is a frozen example one phase of 
the chondrule forming process.  It is a body that lies between glass/dust and 
crystallized.

Were we able to watch this process in time lapse we would see the crosses grow 
in length and width until all the matrix was converted.

Elton


 Tom Philips wrote:
 
 ... I wonder if this weird crystal structure
 found  in a slice of JaH 055 would 
  qualify for being called a chondrule or a small 
 inclusion...

  http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorite-pages/JaH-055-Crystal.htm
 
     
 
       
   
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