Re: [meteorite-list] Area 52 Meteorite Hunt Proposal

2009-11-25 Thread Jeff Kuyken

He was sheltering from the wind...


Was the wind strong at the time of the fall? This might impact the find 
coordinates some.


Cheers,

Jeff



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Subject: [meteorite-list] Area 52 Meteorite Hunt Proposal



Hi Greg and List,

Being quite familiar with the area if someone would provide definitive 
position estimates of the location of the fall, I would provide 
information on how to access the area. Safely. As of this writing..it 
appears we are talking about East of Granite Mountain in an area that 
would be accessible using State Highway 174..the Brush Road and the old 
Granite Ranch Road (Pony Express Route). Depending on the plotted 
trajectory...and I'm getting a few phone calls returned that indicate the 
heavier material could of fallen well West of the Dugway Range Boundary. I 
need more info. One of my friends at a cattle camp in the are swears he 
heard sonic booms that were multiple and too close together to be 
supersonic low level aircraft. Which frequent the area all the way to 
Sevier Lake. Usually they project a single boom. These he claims were 
sharper and at least three close,but seperate. He was sheltering from the 
wind so did not see any visual phenomenem.


Count Deiro
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[meteorite-list] Gauteng: State declares ownership before meteorite is found

2009-11-25 Thread i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de
One really wonders if this approach offers sufficcient incentive to initiate
recovery efforts:

Eyewittness News:
Meteor belongs to the state 
Gia Nicolaides The Astronomical Society of South Africa said on Wednesday a
meteor had no monetary value and belonged to the state where it landed.
Dozens of people claimed the meteor spotted over Gauteng at the weekend landed
on their property.
The astronomical society's Tim Cooper said even if it landed on someone's
property, they did not own it.
By law in this country any meteorite which hits the ground belongs to the
state. So it will be given over to the universities to study its origins and its
characteristics, after that it will become property of the state so somebody who
finds this object will not be able top keep it, said Cooper.
The fireball lit up the skies and was seen travelling from Johannesburg to the
north of Pretoria at about 11pm on Saturday.
As yet no one has found the rock.
Source: http://www.eyewitnessnews.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=27202

Best regards

Svend



drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com hat am 25. November 2009 um 00:21 geschrieben:

 Dear List,
   I have just posted two videos from the Gauteng 21Nov09 Fireball in South
Africa.
 South Africa Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng Meteor 21NOV09 Videos 24NOV09:
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/south-africa-meteormeteorite-news.html
 
 ---
 Meteor/Meteorite News- 24NOV09
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-24nov09.html
 
 More Eyewitness accounts of the meteor
 Jacaranda 94.2
 Botswana- These Meteorite created a complete daylight effect as far as I could
 see, except it was like a quartz halogen pure white light, which gradually
 faded to a ...
 
 Probe underway into Gauteng meteor sighting
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Science and Technology Minister Naledi Pandor on Monday requested detailed
 information about the meteor that passed over Gauteng at the weekend. ...
 
 Meteor lights up night sky
 Citizen
 JOHANNESBURG - Amateur astronomers are star-struck with the possibility that a
 meteorite might have crashed to earth somewhere in South Africa on Saturday
 ...
 
 Gauteng abuzz after meteor sighting
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Eyewitness News has also received reports of the meteor being spotted as far
 as Botswana. There was a very bright explosion, where the sky lit up as if it
 ...
 
 Search on for alleged meteorite
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Amateur astronomists across Gauteng said on Monday they were focussing their
 search for an alleged meteorite, which allegedly plummeted to earth on
 Saturday ...
 
 Meteor/Meteorite News- 23NOV09:
 
 Meteorite lights up Gauteng sky
 Times LIVE
 Amazed Johannesburg and Pretoria residents could hardly believe their eyes
 when a five-second lightning flash, thought to be a meteorite, lit up the
 night ...
 --
 Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng, South Africa 21NOV09 Meteor 22NOV09:
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-22nov09.html
 
 Meteor lights up Gauteng
 Times LIVE
 It was a meteor which lit up the skies over Johannesburg and Pretoria on
 Saturday night, an astronomer has confirmed. The Leonid meteor shower in
 Thailand ...
 
 
 Meteor believed to be spotted in Gauteng
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Johannesburg and Pretoria residents have come forward, claiming they spotted a
 meteor in the skies on Saturday night. People in Gauteng saw the bright light
 ...
 
 Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
 
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2009-11-25 Thread meteoriteshow
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gauteng: State declares ownership before meteorite is found

2009-11-25 Thread Erik Fisler

Who's going to pay for gas and food and give up time from friends and family to 
find something
they can't keep, only to get a pat on the back??
Even if someone would do all that and actually found material from the fall
they would most likely be hassled to make sure they didn't keep any. 

Koo Koo

[Erik]


 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:00:09 +0100
 From: i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Gauteng: State declares ownership before meteorite 
 is found

 One really wonders if this approach offers sufficcient incentive to initiate
 recovery efforts:

 Eyewittness News:
 Meteor belongs to the state
 Gia Nicolaides The Astronomical Society of South Africa said on Wednesday a
 meteor had no monetary value and belonged to the state where it landed.
 Dozens of people claimed the meteor spotted over Gauteng at the weekend landed
 on their property.
 The astronomical society's Tim Cooper said even if it landed on someone's
 property, they did not own it.
 By law in this country any meteorite which hits the ground belongs to the
 state. So it will be given over to the universities to study its origins and 
 its
 characteristics, after that it will become property of the state so somebody 
 who
 finds this object will not be able top keep it, said Cooper.
 The fireball lit up the skies and was seen travelling from Johannesburg to the
 north of Pretoria at about 11pm on Saturday.
 As yet no one has found the rock.
 Source: http://www.eyewitnessnews.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=27202

 Best regards

 Svend



 drtanuki  hat am 25. November 2009 um 00:21 geschrieben:

 Dear List,
   I have just posted two videos from the Gauteng 21Nov09 Fireball in South
Africa.
 South Africa Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng Meteor 21NOV09 Videos 24NOV09:

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/south-africa-meteormeteorite-news.html

 ---
 Meteor/Meteorite News- 24NOV09

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-24nov09.html

 More Eyewitness accounts of the meteor
 Jacaranda 94.2
 Botswana- These Meteorite created a complete daylight effect as far as I 
 could
 see, except it was like a quartz halogen pure white light, which gradually
 faded to a ...

 Probe underway into Gauteng meteor sighting
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Science and Technology Minister Naledi Pandor on Monday requested detailed
 information about the meteor that passed over Gauteng at the weekend. ...

 Meteor lights up night sky
 Citizen
 JOHANNESBURG - Amateur astronomers are star-struck with the possibility that 
 a
 meteorite might have crashed to earth somewhere in South Africa on Saturday
 ...

 Gauteng abuzz after meteor sighting
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Eyewitness News has also received reports of the meteor being spotted as far
 as Botswana. There was a very bright explosion, where the sky lit up as if 
 it
 ...

 Search on for alleged meteorite
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Amateur astronomists across Gauteng said on Monday they were focussing their
 search for an alleged meteorite, which allegedly plummeted to earth on
 Saturday ...

 Meteor/Meteorite News- 23NOV09:

 Meteorite lights up Gauteng sky
 Times LIVE
 Amazed Johannesburg and Pretoria residents could hardly believe their eyes
 when a five-second lightning flash, thought to be a meteorite, lit up the
 night ...
 --
 Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng, South Africa 21NOV09 Meteor 22NOV09:

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-22nov09.html

 Meteor lights up Gauteng
 Times LIVE
 It was a meteor which lit up the skies over Johannesburg and Pretoria on
 Saturday night, an astronomer has confirmed. The Leonid meteor shower in
 Thailand ...


 Meteor believed to be spotted in Gauteng
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News
 Johannesburg and Pretoria residents have come forward, claiming they spotted 
 a
 meteor in the skies on Saturday night. People in Gauteng saw the bright light
 ...

 Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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2009-11-25 Thread Eduardo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gauteng: State declares ownership before meteoriteis found

2009-11-25 Thread Dave Gheesling
Yes Svend...profound ignorance in one of its highest forms.  So phenomenally
presumptive!

All of these stories read similarly to the below ...any meteorite which
hits the ground (sic) belongs to the state...it will be given over to the
universities to study...after that it will be come property of the state...

THE PART BETWEEN IT HITTING THE GROUND AND THEN GOING TO UNIVERSITIES AND A
DUSTY SHELF OF THE STATE AFTER THAT -- THE ACTUAL LOCATION/FINDING/RECOVERY
OF THE EFFEN THING -- JUST SEEMS TO HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY TO THE, WELL,
PROFOUNDLY IGNORANT.

Pathetically sad, and a trend that should be forestalled with every bit of
energy that genuine meteorite enthusiasts across the globe can muster...

Dave
www.fallingrocks.com

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i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:00 AM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Gauteng: State declares ownership before
meteoriteis found

One really wonders if this approach offers sufficcient incentive to initiate
recovery efforts:

Eyewittness News:
Meteor belongs to the state
Gia Nicolaides The Astronomical Society of South Africa said on Wednesday a
meteor had no monetary value and belonged to the state where it landed.
Dozens of people claimed the meteor spotted over Gauteng at the weekend
landed on their property.
The astronomical society's Tim Cooper said even if it landed on someone's
property, they did not own it.
By law in this country any meteorite which hits the ground belongs to the
state. So it will be given over to the universities to study its origins and
its characteristics, after that it will become property of the state so
somebody who finds this object will not be able top keep it, said Cooper.
The fireball lit up the skies and was seen travelling from Johannesburg to
the north of Pretoria at about 11pm on Saturday.
As yet no one has found the rock.
Source: http://www.eyewitnessnews.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=27202

Best regards

Svend



drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com hat am 25. November 2009 um 00:21 geschrieben:

 Dear List,
   I have just posted two videos from the Gauteng 21Nov09 Fireball in 
South Africa.
 South Africa Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng Meteor 21NOV09 Videos 24NOV09:
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/south-africa-meteorm
 eteorite-news.html
 
 --
 -
 Meteor/Meteorite News- 24NOV09
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news
 -24nov09.html
 
 More Eyewitness accounts of the meteor Jacaranda 94.2
 Botswana- These Meteorite created a complete daylight effect as far as 
 I could see, except it was like a quartz halogen pure white light, 
 which gradually faded to a ...
 
 Probe underway into Gauteng meteor sighting Primedia Broadcasting - 
 Eyewitness News Science and Technology Minister Naledi Pandor on 
 Monday requested detailed information about the meteor that passed 
 over Gauteng at the weekend. ...
 
 Meteor lights up night sky
 Citizen
 JOHANNESBURG - Amateur astronomers are star-struck with the 
 possibility that a meteorite might have crashed to earth somewhere in 
 South Africa on Saturday ...
 
 Gauteng abuzz after meteor sighting
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News Eyewitness News has also 
 received reports of the meteor being spotted as far as Botswana. 
 There was a very bright explosion, where the sky lit up as if it ...
 
 Search on for alleged meteorite
 Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News Amateur astronomists across 
 Gauteng said on Monday they were focussing their search for an alleged 
 meteorite, which allegedly plummeted to earth on Saturday ...
 
 Meteor/Meteorite News- 23NOV09:
 
 Meteorite lights up Gauteng sky
 Times LIVE
 Amazed Johannesburg and Pretoria residents could hardly believe their 
 eyes when a five-second lightning flash, thought to be a meteorite, 
 lit up the night ...
 --
 Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng, South Africa 21NOV09 Meteor 22NOV09:
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news
 -22nov09.html
 
 Meteor lights up Gauteng
 Times LIVE
 It was a meteor which lit up the skies over Johannesburg and Pretoria 
 on Saturday night, an astronomer has confirmed. The Leonid meteor 
 shower in Thailand ...
 
 
 Meteor believed to be spotted in Gauteng Primedia Broadcasting - 
 Eyewitness News Johannesburg and Pretoria residents have come forward, 
 claiming they spotted a meteor in the skies on Saturday night. People 
 in Gauteng saw the bright light ...
 
 Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
 
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[meteorite-list] ALH84001-- the death of it's rumors greatly exaggerated

2009-11-25 Thread Darren Garrison
Martian meteorite surrenders new secrets of possible life
BY CRAIG COVAULT
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
Posted: November 24, 2009

Compelling new data that chemical and fossil evidence of ancient microbial life
on Mars was carried to Earth in a Martian meteorite is being elevated to a
higher plane by the same NASA team which made the initial discovery 13 years
ago.

Sources tell Spaceflight Now that the new data are providing a powerful new case
for the Allen Hills Meteorite to have carried strong evidence of Martian life to
Earth -- evidence that is increasingly standing up to scrutiny as new analytical
tools are used to examine the specimen.
 
The latest findings are the product of new research using more advanced High
Resolution Electron Microscopy than was in existence when the initial findings
were made and announced by NASA and the White House in 1996.

Those laboratory sensors are being focused directly on carbonate discs and
associated tiny magnetite crystals present inside the meteorite Allen Hills ALH
84001.

Sources tell Spaceflight Now that the more detailed data on magnetite crystals
and carbonate discs now available largely counter a wide range of opposing
theories as to why the finding should not be supported as biological in origin.

Now, 13 years after the Martian meteorite life story emerged, the science team
finally feels vindicated. Their data shows the meteorite is no smoking gun but
is full of evidence that supports the existence of life on the surface of Mars,
or in subsurface water pools, early in the planet's history.

The new data are expected to be addressed publicly within days by NASA
Headquarters in Washington, where they could become part of the political debate
on future NASA mission directions.
 
The findings have already emerged within the scientific community in the form of
an extremely detailed 46-page paper provided to Spaceflight Now on new Mars life
findings.

The document is part of the November issue of the respected journal Geochimica
et Cosmochimica Acta, the journal of the Geochemical and Meteoritic Society.

Its authors are Kathie Thomas-Keprta, Simon Clement, David McKay (who led the
original team), Everett Gibson and Susan Wentworth, all of the Johnson Space
Center. Keprta is the principal author.

Although led by a Johnson Space Center team, the additional evidence for Martian
life in the Allen Hills meteorite has been an open topic for the last several
weeks in astrobiology division halls at the NASA Ames Research Center near San
Francisco and at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena. It's hot news.

The new work centers on so-called magnetic bacteria that on Earth, and
apparently Mars as well, leave distinctively-shaped remnants in the rock. In
addition the features test with a high chemical purity more like a biological
feature than geological.

These are just like the magnetite-related life forms found in the meteorite
believed to represent Martian life forms, says Dr. Dennis Bazylinski, who peer
reviewed the new findings. He also studies such Earth life forms in his
laboratory at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas.

I think the paper is really excellent. I have no trouble with the paper,
Bazylinski told Spaceflight Now.

I work on magnetic bacteria, and one indication there was life on ancient Mars
are these particular magnetite crystals in the meteorite that look like they
came out of magnetic bacteria. At first [when the data was reported in 1996], I
thought there might have been an error. I have no doubt about that now. I know
there is no error, Bazylinski stressed.

The big question is can these things [magnetite crystals] be reliable magneto
fossils, and that is a matter of debate.

But it turns out that the magnetic bacteria make some very unique shapes of
magnetite crystals. And one of the organisms we work with on Earth makes
particles that look virtually identical to what we see from Mars in the
meteorite.


Scientists say micro-fossils of bacteria are nested with tiny crystal magnetites
that provide additional evidence for life. Credit: NASA
 
Another noted researcher in this field who has peer reviewed the new paper, and
is supportive of the findings, is Dr. Joseph L. Kirschvink of CalTech.

Unfortunately, as the new information was about to be announced by NASA, he was
on a freighter hoping to survive a crossing the treacherous Drake Passage
between Cape Horn and Antarctica, where he will do studies during the Antarctic
summer.

But posted on his Web site is a message about the Allen Hill Meteorite work:

One of the most interesting debates involving magneto fossils concerns their
use by Dave McKay [and the Mars meteorite team] as biomarkers in the ALH84001
Martian meteorite.

This is clearly the most interesting and innovative use of potential
magnetosomes as a biomarker, said Kirschvink.

For years after the Martian meteorite data were first presented, opponents of
the life theory argued that the same shaped features and associated chemical
purity 

[meteorite-list] 13 years later - Martian meteorite surrenders new secrets

2009-11-25 Thread Robert Verish
13 years later - 

Martian meteorite surrenders new secrets of possible life

BY CRAIG COVAULT
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
Posted: November 24, 2009

Compelling new data that chemical and fossil evidence of ancient microbial life 
on Mars was carried to Earth in a Martian meteorite is being elevated to a 
higher plane by the same NASA team which made the initial discovery 13 years 
ago.

Sources tell Spaceflight Now that the new data are providing a powerful new 
case for the Allen Hills Meteorite to have carried strong evidence of Martian 
life to Earth -- evidence that is increasingly standing up to scrutiny as new 
analytical tools are used to examine the specimen.

The latest findings are the product of new research using more advanced High 
Resolution Electron Microscopy than was in existence when the initial findings 
were made and announced by NASA and the White House in 1996.

Those laboratory sensors are being focused directly on carbonate discs and 
associated tiny magnetite crystals present inside the meteorite Allen Hills ALH 
84001.

More at:

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0911/24marslife/
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[meteorite-list] AD-Terrific TurkeyDay Treats

2009-11-25 Thread Gary Fujihara
** Sorry if this will be a double post - first post still in cyberspace? **

Actually my eBay auction ends this Saturday, November 28 starting at 8:13 am 
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*ALLENDE CV3 - frags, individuals, and dealer lots from $5/g
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*CAMEL DONGA Euc 38.31g Monster can be yours for $12/g
*MILLBILLILLIE Euc 2.85g AAA Oriented - My listing mistake is your steal!
*NWA 1877 Dio 1.57g Rare oli dio was ~$100/g, now $4.46/g
*RED Olivine Bomb 426.5g Split  polished beauty RARE!
*uNWA OC 1.178kg sculpted monstrosity at 4¢/g  Ouch!
... various uNWA OC, Chergach 22.61g, uNWA poss CV3 20.14g, Millie 24.88g, 
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Then, on Sunday, November 29, starting at 10:05 am Pacific / 1:05 pm Eastern / 
5:05 pm London, I have a couple of possible type 3 complete stones (82g, 164h) 
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Hilo, Hawaii 96720
(808) 640-9161
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite - new issue - Lovina ungrouped iron

2009-11-25 Thread i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de
Today the current issue of Meteorite arrived. While I haven't found time yet to
read through the articles, I had a post card fell from inbetween pages, showing
a
brilliant and most exciting photo, which I'd like to point your kind attention
to. 

The photo shows the surf-sculpted mass of the Lovina ungrouped iron, a 1981 find
from Bali Indonesia of a 8.2 kg meteoritic iron. Ever since I heard from its
discovery and classification I wondered how it might look like. Particularly as
I walked the very beach where it was found repeatedly in 2004 and 2008. Well, it
is not exxagerated to say, that the specimen's appearance has nothing in common
with iron meteorites as we know them. 

The anthrazite colored mass displays a beautiful and striking three dimensional
crystallization pattern which reminds one on the stepped roof architectures of
Balinese temples - or on colonies of polyhedral Pacific barnacles clinging to
rocks in the surf. The iron is of such striking plasticity that one is tempted
to
doubt, that the structures present are indeed revealed by nature and not by
a very gifted sculptor.  

Perhaps our fellow list member and author of this world class photo, Darryl
Pitt, is so kind to provide a link. For those who might not receive Meteorite,
or think, they have seen it all its really worth a look.

Svend

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[meteorite-list] AD - Blowout/Clearance Prices, cheap UNWA specimens, lot of 20 Meteorite Labels

2009-11-25 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi List!

I need to get a quick sale or two, so I am sacrificing a couple of
nice pieces at low prices.  The prices on the first two pieces are
rock bottom cheap, so the coupon code does not apply to them.  To
purchase these two stones, contact me via email.  PayPal only - I
can't wait until after Thanksgiving for a check or money order to
clear.

First, a fully crusted Bassikounou stone - 100% crusted in fresh black
velvety crust.  This piece comes in a Riker box with metal display
label.

The website price is $59.

The sale price is $30 shipped!  (US) or $35 shipped Overseas/Canada.

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/0/Bassikounou-Witnessed-Fall--100-Crusted-Whole-Stone_1065553.html

Second, I have a nice crusted fragment of Gao Guenie.  This fragment
has a nice organic shape that resembles a whole stone.  This specimen
also comes in a Riker box with metal label.

Website price is $40.

Sale Price is $20 shipped!  (US) or $25 shipped to Overseas/Canada.

The following items are NEW - don't forget to use your metlist
coupon code at checkout or contact me to receive the 25% discount.

Lastly, I have listed several new unclassified NWA endcuts, slices and
a whole individual stone - (some have a black matrix, some are metal
heavy)

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/0/Nice-Unclassified-Meteorite--Big-Dark-Whole-Stone--44-grams_1131769.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Black-Chondrite--Big-Unclassified-Meteorite-Endcut--81-grams_1131751.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Black-Matrix-Meteorite--Unclassified-Slice--30-grams_1131755.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/High-Iron-Endcut--Nice-Unclassified-Meteorite--40-grams_1131762.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Unclassified-Meteorite-Endcut--Mottled-Orange-Matrix_1131765.html

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/High-Iron-Endcut--Nice-Unclassified-Meteorite--18-grams_1131767.html

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I have a large lot of metal display labels
from Meteoritelabels.com -

http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/126516/Lot-of-20-Meteorite-Labels--from-Meteoritelabelscom_1122107.html

Still available - buy one trinitite specimen and get a trinitite
micromount for free!

Thanks for looking and clear skies!

MikeG

PS - have a happy and safe Thanksgiving! :)

-- 
.
Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle
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[meteorite-list] AD-Terrific TurkeyDay Treats

2009-11-25 Thread Gary Fujihara
Actually my eBay auction ends this Saturday, November 28 starting at 8:13 am 
Pacific / 11:13 am Eastern / 3:13 pm London.  But, I am sure you will have some 
turkey leftovers for the weekend ...

No leftovers on my meteorites, of which there are many to choose:

*BENGUERIR LL6 106g Super Fresh flowline crusted fragment.  No oxidation on 
crust or in matrix, which is studded with many iron grains and large troilite 
inclusions - RARE
*NWA 2975 She 0.16g, 0.36g crusted Martians in uBoxes, from $350/g
*ALLENDE CV3 - frags, individuals, and dealer lots from $5/g
*CAMEL DONGA Euc 2.31g - Started at 99¢, now at only $13
*CAMEL DONGA Euc 38.31g Monster can be yours for $12/g
*MILLBILLILLIE Euc 2.85g AAA Oriented - My listing mistake is your steal!
*NWA 1877 Dio 1.57g Rare oli dio was ~$100/g, now $4.46/g
*RED Olivine Bomb 426.5g Split  polished beauty RARE!
*uNWA OC 1.178kg sculpted monstrosity at 4¢/g  Ouch!
... various uNWA OC, Chergach 22.61g, uNWA poss CV3 20.14g, Millie 24.88g, 
Tatahouine 4.2g, Henbury 9.74g, Gao 17.68g, Galileoscope, MK trading cards

Then, on Sunday, November 29, starting at 10:05 am Pacific / 1:05 pm Eastern / 
5:05 pm London, I have a couple of possible type 3 complete stones (82g, 164h) 
starting at  $2/g, and a 19g NWA olivine encrusted pallasite starting at $99.

So enjoy a side of meteorites with your leftover turkey sandwich this weekend, 
by finding all of these great deals, and many, many more at:

http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html

Remember that you can count on the Big Kahuna to provide you with the highest 
quality authentic meteorites at the lowest prices on earth.

Gary Fujihara
Big Kahuna Meteorites
105 Puhili Place
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
(808) 640-9161
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Re: [meteorite-list] Area 52 Meteorite Hunt Proposal

2009-11-25 Thread Linton Rohr

That's a definite possibility, Jeff.
There are hellacious winds at times in the part of Utah (south) I'm familiar 
with.


Thanks for the road info, Count.
I flew over them  in Google Earth.
Didn't spot any meteorites. ;^)
Linton


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To: countde...@earthlink.net; robert.d.mat...@saic.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Area 52 Meteorite Hunt Proposal



He was sheltering from the wind...

Was the wind strong at the time of the fall? This might impact the find 
coordinates some.


Cheers,

Jeff



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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:36 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Area 52 Meteorite Hunt Proposal



Hi Greg and List,

Being quite familiar with the area if someone would provide 
definitive position estimates of the location of the fall, I would 
provide information on how to access the area. Safely. As of this 
writing..it appears we are talking about East of Granite Mountain in an 
area that would be accessible using State Highway 174..the Brush Road and 
the old Granite Ranch Road (Pony Express Route). Depending on the plotted 
trajectory...and I'm getting a few phone calls returned that indicate the 
heavier material could of fallen well West of the Dugway Range Boundary. 
I need more info. One of my friends at a cattle camp in the are swears he 
heard sonic booms that were multiple and too close together to be 
supersonic low level aircraft. Which frequent the area all the way to 
Sevier Lake. Usually they project a single boom. These he claims were 
sharper and at least three close,but seperate. He was sheltering from the 
wind so did not see any visual phenomenem.


Count Deiro


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite - new issue - Lovina ungrouped iron

2009-11-25 Thread Matthias Bärmann

Svend, list,

don't wanting to anticipate Darryl's reaction - only to shorten the latency 
a bit:

http://www.macovich.com/Lovina.htm

Best regards,

Matthias B.


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To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:44 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite - new issue - Lovina ungrouped iron


Today the current issue of Meteorite arrived. While I haven't found time 
yet to
read through the articles, I had a post card fell from inbetween pages, 
showing

a
brilliant and most exciting photo, which I'd like to point your kind 
attention

to.

The photo shows the surf-sculpted mass of the Lovina ungrouped iron, a 
1981 find
from Bali Indonesia of a 8.2 kg meteoritic iron. Ever since I heard from 
its
discovery and classification I wondered how it might look like. 
Particularly as
I walked the very beach where it was found repeatedly in 2004 and 2008. 
Well, it
is not exxagerated to say, that the specimen's appearance has nothing in 
common

with iron meteorites as we know them.

The anthrazite colored mass displays a beautiful and striking three 
dimensional
crystallization pattern which reminds one on the stepped roof 
architectures of
Balinese temples - or on colonies of polyhedral Pacific barnacles clinging 
to
rocks in the surf. The iron is of such striking plasticity that one is 
tempted

to
doubt, that the structures present are indeed revealed by nature and not 
by

a very gifted sculptor.

Perhaps our fellow list member and author of this world class photo, 
Darryl
Pitt, is so kind to provide a link. For those who might not receive 
Meteorite,

or think, they have seen it all its really worth a look.

Svend

www.meteorite-recon.com
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite or not ? pls help

2009-11-25 Thread Marcin Cimala

Hi
I got a sample of possible meteorite, but Im not sure what it is.
Please take a look at this TS photos. Maybe anyone got idea what it is.

Im affraid its earth rock (basalt) ?

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod00.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod01.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod02.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod03.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod04.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod05.jpg


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite or not ? pls help

2009-11-25 Thread Ted Bunch
Marcin = looks like a terrestrial basalt, iddingsite clays around the
olivine phenocrysts are not meteoritic; matrix fabric looks terrestrial,
etc.

Cheers, Ted


On 11/25/09 11:46 AM, Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net wrote:

 Hi
 I got a sample of possible meteorite, but Im not sure what it is.
 Please take a look at this TS photos. Maybe anyone got idea what it is.
 
 Im affraid its earth rock (basalt) ?
 
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod00.jpg
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod01.jpg
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod02.jpg
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod03.jpg
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod04.jpg
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod05.jpg
 
 
 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
 http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
 http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
 http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite or not ? pls help

2009-11-25 Thread Marcin Cimala

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod000.jpg

Ach, I totaly forgot I have photos of all stones (still in morocco). What I 
have here is only a few grams sample. But from this picture I think its 
earth rock,


Mr Bunch, can You please contact me off list ? Its urgent.

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[meteorite-list] Happy Thanksgiving

2009-11-25 Thread Greg Stanley

List:

Wanted to wish everyone a safe and Happy Thanksgiving.

Greg S.
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite - new issue - Lovina ungrouped iron

2009-11-25 Thread ensoramanda
Hi Matthias, Svend, all,

You just beat me to that Matthias...an unbelievable meteorite specimen, just 
incredible.

Graham, UK

 Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: 
 Svend, list,
 
 don't wanting to anticipate Darryl's reaction - only to shorten the latency 
 a bit:
 http://www.macovich.com/Lovina.htm
 
 Best regards,
 
 Matthias B.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:44 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite - new issue - Lovina ungrouped iron
 
 
  Today the current issue of Meteorite arrived. While I haven't found time 
  yet to
  read through the articles, I had a post card fell from inbetween pages, 
  showing
  a
  brilliant and most exciting photo, which I'd like to point your kind 
  attention
  to.
 
  The photo shows the surf-sculpted mass of the Lovina ungrouped iron, a 
  1981 find
  from Bali Indonesia of a 8.2 kg meteoritic iron. Ever since I heard from 
  its
  discovery and classification I wondered how it might look like. 
  Particularly as
  I walked the very beach where it was found repeatedly in 2004 and 2008. 
  Well, it
  is not exxagerated to say, that the specimen's appearance has nothing in 
  common
  with iron meteorites as we know them.
 
  The anthrazite colored mass displays a beautiful and striking three 
  dimensional
  crystallization pattern which reminds one on the stepped roof 
  architectures of
  Balinese temples - or on colonies of polyhedral Pacific barnacles clinging 
  to
  rocks in the surf. The iron is of such striking plasticity that one is 
  tempted
  to
  doubt, that the structures present are indeed revealed by nature and not 
  by
  a very gifted sculptor.
 
  Perhaps our fellow list member and author of this world class photo, 
  Darryl
  Pitt, is so kind to provide a link. For those who might not receive 
  Meteorite,
  or think, they have seen it all its really worth a look.
 
  Svend
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New work on ALH 84001

2009-11-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - 

No surprise. The distribution of the PHA's pretty much nailed it from the 
start. I interviewed the fellow who did the scans while we smoked cigaretters 
outside the first news conference.

BUT you have to ask yourself, which find is more significant, ALH 84001, or the 
Shiva Crater? 

Oh, and by the way , what this new work means is that the back contamination 
hazard just increased to the point where manned Mars flight will not be 
possible for many many years to come... if ever. 

In other words, for many people, manned Mars flight just became as popular as 
swine flu... so don't go planning your budgets on that basis. 

E.P. Grondine
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[meteorite-list] ESA's New SOHO Science Archive Now Online

2009-11-25 Thread Ron Baalke

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=45900

ESA's new SOHO science archive now online
European Space Agency
23 Nov 2009

Access to data from the ESA-NASA SOHO mission has just become easier
with the launch of a new SOHO science archive with enhanced capabilities
for searching and visualising the vast SOHO data archive. This is the
first in a new generation of science archives under development at ESA's
European Space Astronomy Centre. 

Since operations began in 1995 the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory
(SOHO) has been transmitting data from its twelve scientific instruments
back to Earth at a rate of 1 Gigabyte per day. Analysis of this data has
resulted in ground-breaking scientific results which have included the
first images of a star's convection zone and the structure of sunspots
below the photosphere; the most precise measurements of the temperature
structure, interior rotation, and gas flow in the solar interior; the
discovery of new dynamic phenomena such as coronal waves and solar
tornadoes, and the discovery of more than 1600 comets. 

The recently launched ESA SOHO Science Archive allows for seamless
access to the complete archive of science data sets from the 12
instruments as soon as the data are processed. A Graphical User
Interface, based on state-of-the-art technology, provides both the
expert and layman with access to a wide variety of data including
helioseismic measurements of the centre of the Sun, full-disc images of
the solar atmosphere in different wavelengths, and measurements of the
solar wind filling the interplanetary media. The ability to generate
on-the-fly sequences of images facilitates viewing in minutes processes
that take days or months in real time. This type of tool has contributed
to discoveries of new solar phenomena, such as the aforementioned
coronal waves, solar tornadoes, and even new comets.

Innovation and interoperability are key to the new archive

One of the challenges in developing the new archive was to find a way to
provide a quick response to queries of a complex database of more than 2
million solar observations. The complex relations between the data
fields resulted in slow responses when using traditional database
searches. This was overcome by applying the Dijkstra graph theory search
algorithm to database searches. By generating table joins on-the-fly,
database searches are improved resulting in better response times when
compared to the traditional approach. A simple query of all observations
within the SOHO science archive, for instance, takes less than a second
to return results, a response that could not be achieved using the
traditional methods.

Enhanced functionality in the archive is provided by the 'Time
Animator', a platform-independent tool that instantly generates video
sequences of the Sun. Several imaging instruments can be selected at one
time to create parallel video sequences.

The new archive has been developed in compliance with protocols defined
by the International Virtual Observatory Alliance (IVOA). In addition,
scientific requirements from the community have been gathered by the
Archive Scientists and converted into functionalities within the
archives. These two factors along with the ability to interface with
standard analysis tools that are also VO compliant renders this archive
an essential tool in solar research.

Preserving the legacy of the ESA science missions

The SOHO science archive is the first in a series of new generation
scientific archives being developed and implemented by the Science
Archives and Virtual Observatory Team at the European Space Astronomy
Centre in Spain. These archives will contribute to preserving the legacy
of ESA's science missions by conserving and providing access to data
from all of these missions.

Contacts

For further details about the ESA SOHO Science Archive please contact:

Pedro Osuna, Science Archives and VO Team Leader
Email: Pedro.Osunaesa.int

Luis Sánchez, SOHO Archive Scientist
Email: Luis.Sanchezesa.int

Christophe Arviset, Head of the Science Archives and Computer Support
Engineering Unit
Email: Christophe.Arvisetesa.int

Bernhard Fleck, ESA SOHO Project Scientist
Email: Berhard.Fleckesa.int

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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - November 25, 2009

2009-11-25 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
November 25, 2009

o Winter View of Dunes
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001558_1325

o Martian Dichotomy Boundary
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001414_2165

o Wall Rock and Light-Toned Layering in Candor Chasma
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001390_1735

o Valles Marineris Wall Rock
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001337_1675

o Gullies and Flow Features on Crater Wall
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_013726_1475


All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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[meteorite-list] Spirit Rover Update: No Wheel Stall in Diagnostic Drive

2009-11-25 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-179  

No Wheel Stall in Diagnostic Drive
Jet Propsulsion Laboratory
November 25, 2009

On Sol 2095 (Tuesday, Nov. 24), Spirit performed a set of diagnostic
actions related to a stall of the right-rear wheel on the previous
drive, three days earlier. The diagnostics showed a fully functioning
wheel free of obstruction. The rover was commanded forward with 1.5
meters (4.9 feet) of wheel spin.  The rover moved 2.1 millimeters (0.08
inch) forward, 1.1 millimeters (0.04 inch) to the left, and 0.3
millimeters (0.01 inch) down.

The cumulative results from Sols 2088 to 2095 (Nov. 17 to 24) are 8.1
meters (27 feet) of commanded motion, 15.7 millimeters (0.6 inch) of
forward progress, 9.9 millimeters (0.4 inch) of movement to the left,
and 4.8 millimeters (0.2 inch) of sinkage.

The plan for a drive during the long holiday weekend is another two-step
drive, with each step 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) of commanded wheel spin. All
wheels will be straight and run at the same speed. Results of this
commanded drive will be analyzed Monday, Nov. 30.

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[meteorite-list] POLL: What Do You Want?

2009-11-25 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi Listees  Meteorite People,

I've created a poll for gathering some very important information. This 
information is vital in determining the course of action and direction 
the Meteorite Wiki website will take. The Poll is located on the 
meteorite blog website but is strictly for gathering information on the 
Meteorite Wiki.


What Do You Want In A Meteorite Website?
Go here to Vote: www.meteoriteblog.com
Poll is located in the sidebar of the site

1 Question, 20 Answers and percentage based results. You are more than 
welcome to choose more than one answer and in fact are encouraged to do 
so. Choose the answers that best fit what YOU would like to see in a 
meteorite website.


If you have something to add please feel free to send me an email with 
suggestions, opinions, gripes, or rants. ;) Questions are encouraged!


Please take part in the poll, the more information we compile the better 
the data will be!


Thanks in advance for your participation.

Regards,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question

2009-11-25 Thread Mark Bowling
Hi Erik and List,

A gold machine can find all targets.  But without a discriminating coin 
machine, you have to dig each target to find out what it is (be it foil, pull 
tabs, nails, etc.).  If you only have an hour to hunt a park, that could mean 
the difference between recovering 30 coins with a DFX, or 5 with a GMT (with a 
lot more junk recovered).

While a DFX can find gold/meteorites, all the folks I know will leave the coin 
machine at home.

Dean, if you spend most of your time in a city, you would probably be best 
served with a coin machine as there are a lot of sites within easy reach.  
Since I bought a coin machine, I've done a lot more detecting because the 
gold/meteorite fields in my area require at least a day trip.  I can fill a 
hours time now (or even less) and find some coins/jewelry.

Good luck,
Mark

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com wrote:

 From: Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
 To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:05 PM
 
 A good gold machine can find coins,  a good coin machine
 can't necessarily find gold.
 White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are great,
 Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT,
 and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great!
 or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and buy some
 really expensive
 detectors that are HOO on gold and meteorites but have
 tons of interference and pinpointing issues...
 
 
 I can take my GMT to the park and it's like shooting fish
 in a barrel...
 
 depends on if you are looking for small targets with low
 metal,
 or deep metal targets...
 
 happy hunting!
 
 [Erik]
 
 
  Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800
  From: mina...@yahoo.com
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
  
  Hi Dean,
  
  I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites)
 and coins.  A machine for all around hunting usually
 lowers the performance of the machine in those different
 styles of hunting.  So many detectorists choose to own
 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins).
  
  For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the
 Minelab because they were developed in Australia in order to
 combat their heavily mineralized ground.
  
  They also make good coin machines.  They may have
 a multi-use machine that does a good
 job.   The newer multi-frequency machines
 would be something to look at.  But again, 2 machines
 is better.  Having a deep seeking gold machine, along
 with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small
 targets would increase the probability of success.
  
  I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well. 
 I also have a coin machine that can hunt gold, but I always
 put it down and use my dedicated gold machine instead.
  
  Good luck,
  
  Mark B.
  Vail, AZ
  
  
  --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  
  From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM
  If somebody was wanting a metal
  detector with plans to use it searching for
 meteorites, gold
  nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the
 best metal
  detector to get?
  What things in general does one look for in buying
 a metal
  detector?
  Thanks
  DEAN
  
  
        
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[meteorite-list] Looking for: Catalogue of Meteorites

2009-11-25 Thread Greg Catterton
I am looking for a copy of The Catalogue of Meteorites 
Used is fine, but I would like it to be in good condition.

Cash/Trade?
Anyone who can help, off list please. 

Thanks,
Greg C.



  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Don't Check My Bag if You Please....

2009-11-25 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All,
Sorry for the late reply to the topic, but I'm currently in Oakland
International waiting to board with a 3.5kg stone in my backpack.
I planned ahead, anticipating some scrutiny from security (got here
with a few hours to spare), but they only held me up for about ten
minutes.  I think my age may have had something to do with it, but the
factor that seemed to sway them the most was the specimen card that
accompanied the rock.

To be honest, it seems like dubious security work to me - label or not
I suppose I could use the thing as some sort of a weapon (if they
would otherwise have not let it on, a label seems a poor excuse),
but...I'll not complain.

To that end, I'd say that if one's worried about getting onto a plane
with meteorites, just...bring some labels or literature - some sort of
evidence that suggests that you're not planning to use it for
something illegal - and be prepared to take it out and explain what
those little circles or the funny patten is...

Thinking back, though, my favorite incident involved security agents
at Charles de Gaule.  We were trying to check a stone, and the thing I
remember most clearly about the ordeal (I was around eleven years old
at the time) was their asking us if the Gao in question was a bomb...
They took some convincing, but let the stone through in the end.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Jason

On Sunday, November 15, 2009, Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com wrote:
 .. Mr. Customs Man. - Arlo Guthrie

 Coming in from London
 From over the pole
 Flying in a big airliner
 Chickens flying everywhere around the plane
 Could we ever feel much finer?

 Coming into Los Angeles
 Bringing in a couple of keys

 ***

 ... of small-scale examples of the ultimate weapons of (planetary)
 mass destruction - meteorites.

 Thanks to list members, Adam, Darryl, Robert, and two Dave's for
 sharing their experiences while hand-carrying mets on-board domestic
 and international flights.

 After my trips to the Tucson show (last visit- sadly way back in
 2002), I'd return to Florida loaded with hand-grenade-size chondrites
 and cannon-ball-size Irons in my hand-carried without a worry of
 raising threat levels of terrorists tendencies to Code Red. But in
 2009, I figured that the times they are a-changing (Dylan).

 Since 2003 I've made thirty (30, yes) round trips to my home here in
 Tambor de Alajuela, Costa Rica. I know the rules well (subject to
 change without notice) even if American Airlines only emails me
 frequent-flyer spam offers of Jamaican vacations but can't tell me
 when they change a baggage allowance. If I be gellin', it's packed in
 a checked bag.

 I fly out of FLL (Fort Lauderdale) after driving two hours across
 Alligator Alley in a rental car from Fort Myers. There's no easy home
 return for disallowed items, i.e. bunker-busting meteorites. As I
 learned last June when I tried (and eventually succeeded) in bringing
 aboard a new quad-processor PC, even the metal-framed box used to
 determine the acceptability of one's carry-on bag varies
 airport-to-airport forget what's on the American Airlines website.
 And nothing orally represented to you on the phone means anything at
 the check-in counter.

 The computer in its flimsy box was not a carry-on weight problem, and
 three inches less than the 45 cubic allowance, but of the wrong
 height dimension. Even if I paid $100 for checking a third bag, it was
 impossible to check without the baggage-handlers destroying it. We
 worked it out when I gave my day bag to a carry-on-free passenger to
 hand to me once we boarded. I carried on the computer. It wasn't my
 idea, the American Airlines check-in lady told me to do it that way.
 It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.

 Based on list members experiences, I don't believe one can routinely
 transport meteorites on a plane without the threat of loss or serious
 hassle so 'll have to settle for visitation rights back in Florida. Or
 I guess I could hire DHL. Thanks for the info.

 

 Meteorite Subject #2

 While I would guess that all m-listers read the free, monthly,
 Meteorite Times to learn about meteorites and absorb and consider the
 worthy insights of its contributors, no one has yet mentioned the
 stellar November issue that Paul Harris has just put together. It's
 not to be missed.

 Martin Horejsi's sensitive and well-researched article on the Sudan
 fall New Halfa brings vivid color to this glossy-black, fusion
 crusted chondrite.

 Gentleman Jim Tobin's cleverly-written photo-essay of his recent
 Mojave adventure with best-buddy Paul takes you along as a welcome
 guest, ultimately blasting off for space measured in Oreo cookie
 kilometers.

 Norbert Classen posts a stunning photo of the world's largest Iron,
 Hoba, en sitio.

 Bob Verish teared me up with his well-written, intimate memoir
 enhanced by touching personal photos 

Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for: Catalogue of Meteorites

2009-11-25 Thread al mitt

Hi Greg and all,

Which edition??

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:33 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Looking for: Catalogue of Meteorites


I am looking for a copy of The Catalogue of Meteorites 
Used is fine, but I would like it to be in good condition.


Cash/Trade?
Anyone who can help, off list please. 


Thanks,
Greg C.



 
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 26, 2009

2009-11-25 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_26_2009.html



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[meteorite-list] Our Place In The Cosmos

2009-11-25 Thread Meteorites USA

A video you might like...

Symphony of Science: Our Place in The Cosmos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioZf4TjoUI

Enjoy...

Regards,
Eric Wichman
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite or not ? pls help

2009-11-25 Thread Jeff Kuyken
These are the posts I really enjoy. Thanks for posting the pics Marcin and 
thanks to Ted for taking the time to reply.


Cheers,

Jeff



- Original Message - 
From: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net
To: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net; MeteoriteList 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite or not ? pls help



Marcin = looks like a terrestrial basalt, iddingsite clays around the
olivine phenocrysts are not meteoritic; matrix fabric looks terrestrial,
etc.

Cheers, Ted


On 11/25/09 11:46 AM, Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net wrote:


Hi
I got a sample of possible meteorite, but Im not sure what it is.
Please take a look at this TS photos. Maybe anyone got idea what it is.

Im affraid its earth rock (basalt) ?

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod00.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod01.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod02.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod03.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod04.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/lod05.jpg


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http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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Re: [meteorite-list] (meteorobs) A new video of Utah's Meteor is impressive.

2009-11-25 Thread drtanuki
Larry and List,
  Thank you for your video post. I found two more videos that I think I have 
not posted.  
  One is from the Utah State University, Logan, Utah; and the other is from 
Friedman Memorial Airport, Hailey, Idaho.
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/utah-bolide-meteor-of-18nov09-idahoutah.html
  Hope we soon get some good reports about meteorites being found.
Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Larry ycsenti...@att.net wrote:

 From: Larry ycsenti...@att.net
 Subject: (meteorobs) A new video of Utah's Meteor is impressive.
 To: meteor...@meteorobs.org
 Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 3:36 PM
 I had not seen this particular movie
 before. It opens with a ranch scene and 
 progresses into movies we are familiar with.
 
 http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2009/11/video-meteor-li.html
 
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