[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2009

2009-12-19 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_19_2009.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2009

2009-12-19 Thread Carl 's

In the car over her left shoulder, the trunk is full of X-mas wrapped Lunars 
from Macy's. In the sign above the bar (it's kind of blurry) reads, Martian 
cutting dust cocktails NEW YEAR'S SPECIAL!

I see her freshly painted nails nicely matches her blouse.

Carl

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2009

2009-12-19 Thread Gary Fujihara
Brave girl ... and lucky boyfriend!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2009

2009-12-19 Thread Martin Altmann
But Gary, it's a fake!

That is no girl.

Girls present us boys always with clothing   :-(

 

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19, 2009

Brave girl ... and lucky boyfriend!

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[meteorite-list] Re needs

2009-12-19 Thread Pete Shugar

List,
I  have 10 more presentations scheduled for this
year, after these 2.
Any and all help is very much appreciated.
This one on the 4th is very special to me as I
had a virus in my left ear that left me deaf in that 
ear in April. I had always wanted to learn sign so I started to

work on that about 12 years ago. I used it a lot
in church, but I never thought I would need it in
real life.
Anything donated will be credited and all will be used 
if not this school year, then next year. I already have 2 
scheduled for the next school year, These 2 are the base

presentations every year.
My address is:
Pete Shugar
4700 S Virginia Apt 208
Amarillo, Tx 79109

806 290 3374
Many thanks,
Pete IMCA 1733

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2009

2009-12-19 Thread Dark Matter
Darryl?



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[meteorite-list] oriented unclassified stoney buttons for sale (AD)

2009-12-19 Thread steve arnold
Hi again list.I have 8 unclassified stoney oriented buttons for sale.All pics 
and prices upon asking.They range from 20 to 65 grams.All with specimen 
cards.Off list please.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2009

2009-12-19 Thread Dennis Miller

Very brave!!!  1)holding it over a hard sidewalk and 2)no armed guards
escorting her and that $400,000 plus, wonderful stone.  I just love her!
Dennis
 
 
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 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 
 19, 2009
 
 Brave girl ... and lucky boyfriend!
 
 On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:01 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:
 
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_19_2009.html
 
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[meteorite-list] Crater discovered off the Azores?

2009-12-19 Thread Charles O'Dale
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8400264.stm

Chuck
http://ottawa-rasc.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Odale-Articles
'Fried Egg' may be impact crater  
By Jonathan Amos 
Science correspondent, BBC News, San Francisco  
'Fried Egg' may be impact crater  
By Jonathan Amos 
Science correspondent, BBC News, San Francisco  
'Fried Egg' may be impact crater 
Portuguese scientists have found a depression on the Atlantic Ocean floor they 
think may be an impact crater. 
The roughly circular, 6km-wide hollow has a broad central dome and has been 
dubbed the Fried Egg because of its distinctive shape. 
It was detected to the south of the Azores Islands during a survey to map the 
continental shelf. 
If the Fried Egg was made by a space impactor, the collision probably took 
place within the past 17 million years. 


This is the likely maximum age of the basaltic sea-floor rock which harbours 
the feature. 
To be sure, we need to take samples and make a profile of the sediment layers 
to determine if there really is a central uplift from an impact, explained Dr 
Frederico Dias from EMEPC (Task Group for the Extension of the Portuguese 
Continental Shelf). 
We need also to see all the signatures that are consistent with a high 
velocity impact, like glasses from melting and, of course, debris; and what are 
called shatter cones (shocked rocks), he told BBC News. 
Central peaks
Dr Dias described the putative impact feature here at the American Geophysical 
Union's (AGU) Fall Meeting, the world's largest annual gathering of Earth 
scientists. 
The Fried Egg was first identified in data gathered by a 2008 multibeam 
echosounder hydrographic survey. A further cruise from September to November 
this year confirmed its presence. 
It lies under 2km of water about 150km from the Azores archipelago. 
The depressed ring sits roughly 110m below the surrounding ocean bottom, with 
the circular dome-shaped central uplift 3km in diameter and with a base-to-top 
height of some 300m. 
Central peaks are often associated with meteorite impacts and form when the 
compressed crater floor rebounds. A peak is not definitive proof of an impact, 
however. 
A volcanic origin for the Fried Egg seems unlikely because the Portuguese team 
has not been able to find any lava flows within the structure or on its 
surroundings. 
Second crater
Interestingly, there is another - but much smaller - feature just 3-4km to the 
west of the egg. 
It's just by the side. If the Fried Egg is a crater, this could be a crater 
also, speculated Dr Dias. 
Dr Dias and colleagues are examining gravity and magnetic data gathered during 
September's cruise. A third expedition to the area early next year will use a 
remotely operated vehicle (ROV) to try to retrieve samples from the ocean floor 
for analysis. 
The Portuguese team detailed the currently available Fried Egg data on a poster 
at the AGU meeting. Other researchers who came to view the information were 
split on the impact theory, Dr Dias said. 
Even if it's not an impact crater it's still a very interesting feature, he 
told the BBC. 
The EMEPC is working under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea 
to establish the true extent of Portuguese territorial waters. 
jonathan.amos-inter...@bbc.co.uk

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[meteorite-list] addendum

2009-12-19 Thread Pete Shugar

List,
There  will be  31 kids all total.
Pete

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[meteorite-list] Anyone see the Fireball over Pacific near Summerland/Santa Barbara Monday Morning?

2009-12-19 Thread power ofunity
Did anyone here see a bolide explode over the Pacific ocean near 
Summerland/Santa Barbara on Monday morning, Dec. 14 approximately 6:20 am?
 
I was traveling north on Hwy 101 south of Santa Barbara as a passenger, and the 
driver and I saw a glowing fireball trailing thick smoke out of the driver's 
window.  She asked me if it was a plane, but then it exploded, the largest 
piece was traveling away, still glowing but getting dimmer, and then it lost 
all light, and appeared to drop straight down.  There were smaller pieces 
visible that left spiral smoke trails away from the main smoke cloud.  Several 
cars were stopped a few miles up the road,  and people were outside watching;  
I was hoping someone on the list was a witness, but I have not seen any reports 
here. 

Sorry about the delayed post, my previous attempts bounced.

Ty


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone see the Fireball over Pacific nearSummerland/Santa Barbara Monday Morning?

2009-12-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Hello Ty:

That was actually a Delta II launched from Vandenberg:

http://www.skywise711.com/astro/index.html


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Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:48 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Anyone see the Fireball over Pacific
nearSummerland/Santa Barbara Monday Morning?

Did anyone here see a bolide explode over the Pacific ocean near
Summerland/Santa Barbara on Monday morning, Dec. 14 approximately 6:20 am?
 
I was traveling north on Hwy 101 south of Santa Barbara as a passenger, and
the driver and I saw a glowing fireball trailing thick smoke out of the
driver's window.  She asked me if it was a plane, but then it exploded, the
largest piece was traveling away, still glowing but getting dimmer, and then
it lost all light, and appeared to drop straight down.  There were smaller
pieces visible that left spiral smoke trails away from the main smoke
cloud.  Several cars were stopped a few miles up the road,  and people were
outside watching;  I was hoping someone on the list was a witness, but I
have not seen any reports here. 

Sorry about the delayed post, my previous attempts bounced.

Ty


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone see the Fireball over Pacific nearSummerland/Santa Barbara Monday Morning?

2009-12-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Actually, that's not my site, but yes, a real treat.


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From: power ofunity [mailto:energylightandl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:07 AM
To: Mike Bandli
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone see the Fireball over Pacific
nearSummerland/Santa Barbara Monday Morning?

Hi Mike - 

Thanks for the quick link...and your thorough site, a real treat.


Ty



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Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 10:52:32 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Anyone see the Fireball over Pacific
nearSummerland/Santa Barbara Monday Morning?

Hello Ty:

That was actually a Delta II launched from Vandenberg:

http://www.skywise711.com/astro/index.html


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Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:48 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Anyone see the Fireball over Pacific
nearSummerland/Santa Barbara Monday Morning?

Did anyone here see a bolide explode over the Pacific ocean near
Summerland/Santa Barbara on Monday morning, Dec. 14 approximately 6:20 am?
 
I was traveling north on Hwy 101 south of Santa Barbara as a passenger, and
the driver and I saw a glowing fireball trailing thick smoke out of the
driver's window.  She asked me if it was a plane, but then it exploded, the
largest piece was traveling away, still glowing but getting dimmer, and then
it lost all light, and appeared to drop straight down.  There were smaller
pieces visible that left spiral smoke trails away from the main smoke
cloud.  Several cars were stopped a few miles up the road,  and people were
outside watching;  I was hoping someone on the list was a witness, but I
have not seen any reports here. 

Sorry about the delayed post, my previous attempts bounced.

Ty


      
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3

2009-12-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Dear List Members,
 My CO3 is confirmed by Dr. Anthony Irving and this is what he said :

AA-K  CO3 chondrite (W3)

Small chondrules.  Olivine (Fa0-55), minor enstatite, chromite, kamacite, 
taenite, troilite.

This is authentic stone.

My best
Aziz


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 From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:40 PM
 Dear List members,
  If you are looking for a very nice and very cheap CO3, I
 have for sale a 133g uniq CO3 carbonaceous stone , the best
 price ever offred, for price and photos, catact me off list
 please. this is you Xmas gift
 My best
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2009

2009-12-19 Thread Richard Kowalski
 From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de

 Girls present us boys always with
 clothing   :-(
 

HA!

You're not with the right girls!

:)

Richard


  
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[meteorite-list] joe's meteorwrong

2009-12-19 Thread steve arnold
Hi again list.I just got my 165 gram double cut/ endcut of joe's wrong.It has 
the same outside texture,to me,that chinga has.It looks like a piece of chinga 
I used to have.There are 2 sides cut that makes for breathtaking viewing.The 
metal streaks just jet up and down and thru the stone.Highly magnetic,like and 
iron meteorite.Diffently a must have for $1 a gram.I still have my 75 gram 
endcut still if interested in buying.To me it is better looking than shirkovsky 
and putarano.
 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! chicagometeorites.net/ 
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[meteorite-list] From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31

2009-12-19 Thread Charley
Hi List,

Here is a very cool video from The American Museum of Natural History 
showing a journey from Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U

Happy Holidays everyone !

Best regards,

Charley

Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's
  try elephants !

Hannibal



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Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3

2009-12-19 Thread Greg Hupe

Hello Aziz,

OK, if you sent this sample to Dr. Irving, what is the NWA number? What 
further analysis by supporting scientists and/or laboratories that are 
needed to confirm such a meteorite as you advertise. In my own experience 
and conversations with Dr. Irving and other scientists, they ALWAYS insist 
that oxygen isotope studies by other labs to 'confirm' their initial (not 
FINAL) analysis of a sample, whether by you or other people.


We see through your Smoke-n-Mirror advertising and are not going to accept 
sub-standard behavior if you guys (Moroccans) are going to sell your wares 
to us without proof. You can spout off names, but the bottom line is proof 
and accountability. If, and more often than not, you guys sells us crap, do 
you refund us our money? NO! I give you credit to good stone later, Mr. 
GReg! ,,, typical reply.


You Moroccan stone traders want to be accepted by the world meteorite 
community as being legitimate, but your continuous behavior reveals you 
worry nothing more than lining your pockets with cash and care nothing about 
meteorites. To translate, one of my favorite Moroccan's best phrase is, I 
do not collect meteorites, I collect money! I find this very accurate with 
almost all Moroccan's I have worked with over the last 10 years. Sad!


I have heard way too many stories of people being ripped off by Moroccan 
Stone Traders! I am completely tired of their crap! Maybe time to speak up a 
little more...


Greg


- Original Message - 
From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3


Dear List Members,
My CO3 is confirmed by Dr. Anthony Irving and this is what he said :

AA-K  CO3 chondrite (W3)

Small chondrules.  Olivine (Fa0-55), minor enstatite, chromite, kamacite, 
taenite, troilite.


This is authentic stone.

My best
Aziz


--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:40 PM
Dear List members,
 If you are looking for a very nice and very cheap CO3, I
have for sale a 133g uniq CO3 carbonaceous stone , the best
price ever offred, for price and photos, catact me off list
please. this is you Xmas gift
My best
Aziz




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Re: [meteorite-list] From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in6:31

2009-12-19 Thread Matthias Bärmann

That's great, Charley, thank you, and A Merry Christmas!

(What a relief, compared with Mr. Chicago-Arnold's current self-revelation.)

Best regards,

Matthias Baermann

- Original Message - 
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back 
in6:31




Hi List,

Here is a very cool video from The American Museum of Natural History 
showing a journey from Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U

Happy Holidays everyone !

Best regards,

Charley

Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's
 try elephants !

   Hannibal



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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2009

2009-12-19 Thread Darryl Pitt




Hiya!

A list member was inquiring about the imilac and wanted to see pics.   
I cajoled our bookkeeper to help out and realized there is one other  
use for this pic that comes to mind;-)



Merry Christmas!   d,

===

On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Dennis Miller wrote:


Very brave!!!  1)holding it over a hard sidewalk and 2)no armed guards
escorting her and that $400,000 plus, wonderful stone.  I just love  
her!


Dennis, love your pricing---if it were only true!!!



On Dec 19, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Michael Blood wrote:


 La Fuente has, perhaps, the best guacamole available in the US,



Cap'n Blood---thar's a bold statement! (Arrrgggh, if it were only  
true!   ;-)









On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Dark Matter wrote:


Darryl?

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Michael Johnson
mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote:

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_19_2009.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3

2009-12-19 Thread Marcin Cimala


Hi
Oh Greg, did we need another fight here? For sure not.
I dont see any problem in this that he trying to sell anything. If You dont 
trust him, dont buy, its Your money.
You must be sure what You buy, otherwise its not his (morocans) fault that 
You will buy, a eart rock. And for this we dont need Dr. X or Prof Y. They 
will not help us in Morocco to decide what to buy.

ech


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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]



Hello Aziz,

OK, if you sent this sample to Dr. Irving, what is the NWA number? What 
further analysis by supporting scientists and/or laboratories that are 
needed to confirm such a meteorite as you advertise. In my own 
experience and conversations with Dr. Irving and other scientists, they 
ALWAYS insist that oxygen isotope studies by other labs to 'confirm' their 
initial (not FINAL) analysis of a sample, whether by you or other people.


We see through your Smoke-n-Mirror advertising and are not going to accept 
sub-standard behavior if you guys (Moroccans) are going to sell your wares 
to us without proof. You can spout off names, but the bottom line is proof 
and accountability. If, and more often than not, you guys sells us crap, 
do you refund us our money? NO! I give you credit to good stone later, 
Mr. GReg! ,,, typical reply.


You Moroccan stone traders want to be accepted by the world meteorite 
community as being legitimate, but your continuous behavior reveals you 
worry nothing more than lining your pockets with cash and care nothing 
about meteorites. To translate, one of my favorite Moroccan's best phrase 
is, I do not collect meteorites, I collect money! I find this very 
accurate with almost all Moroccan's I have worked with over the last 10 
years. Sad!


I have heard way too many stories of people being ripped off by Moroccan 
Stone Traders! I am completely tired of their crap! Maybe time to speak up 
a little more...


Greg


- Original Message - 
From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3


Dear List Members,
My CO3 is confirmed by Dr. Anthony Irving and this is what he said :

AA-K  CO3 chondrite (W3)

Small chondrules.  Olivine (Fa0-55), minor enstatite, chromite, kamacite, 
taenite, troilite.


This is authentic stone.

My best
Aziz


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From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:40 PM
Dear List members,
 If you are looking for a very nice and very cheap CO3, I
have for sale a 133g uniq CO3 carbonaceous stone , the best
price ever offred, for price and photos, catact me off list
please. this is you Xmas gift
My best
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[meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas

2009-12-19 Thread Dark Matter
Hi All,

Once again, it seems it has befallen upon me uphold the job of official Santa
Physics story reposter. So, in the true spirit of the season, here it
is yet again.

And as always, I have not checked the math.

Enjoy.

Martin


Engineering Christmas: Some points of contention.

There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the
world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu,
Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas
night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population
Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per
household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at
least one good child in each dwelling.

Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with thanks to the
different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he
travels east to west which seems logical. This works out to 967.7
visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household
with a good child, Santa has about 1/1000th of a second to park the
sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute
the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been
left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on
to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is
evenly distributed around the earth (which of course, we know to be
false, but will accept for the purpose of our calculations), we are
now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5
million miles, not counting bathroom stops or other breaks.

This requires that Santa's sleigh moves at 650 miles per second--3000
times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest
man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles
per second, and conventional reindeer can run at best 30 miles per
hour.

The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming
that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two
pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500,000 tons, not counting Santa
himself. On land a conventional reindeer can pull about 300 pounds.
Even granting that the flying reindeer could pull ten times the
normal amount, the job just cannot be done with eight or nine of
them-- Santa would need 360,000 reindeer!

This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh,
another 54,000 tons or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen
Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch).

4.600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air
resistance-- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as
spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere (which may explain
Rudolph's red nose). The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3
quintillion joules of energy per second. In short, they would
instantaneously vaporize exposing the reindeer behind them to the same
friction and also creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The
entire reindeer team would vanish within 4.26 thousandths of a second,
or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip.

Not that it matters, however since Santa, as a result of accelerating
from a dead stop to 650 miles per second in .001 seconds, would be
subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 Gs. A 250 pound Santa (which
seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by
4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and
reducing him to a quivering red-hot blob of goo. And yet, he returns
year after year.

Therefore, the rules of physics obviously don't apply to Santa and his
yearly mission. Speaking as an engineer, this guy must know something
about relativity that we have yet to discover.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas

2009-12-19 Thread Pete Shugar

Einstein would give his eye teeth to ride with the jolly
red coat.
Pete

- Original Message - 
From: Dark Matter freequa...@gmail.com

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 6:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas



Hi All,

Once again, it seems it has befallen upon me uphold the job of official 
Santa

Physics story reposter. So, in the true spirit of the season, here it
is yet again.

And as always, I have not checked the math.

Enjoy.

Martin


Engineering Christmas: Some points of contention.

There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the
world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu,
Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas
night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population
Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per
household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at
least one good child in each dwelling.

Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with thanks to the
different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he
travels east to west which seems logical. This works out to 967.7
visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household
with a good child, Santa has about 1/1000th of a second to park the
sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute
the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been
left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on
to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is
evenly distributed around the earth (which of course, we know to be
false, but will accept for the purpose of our calculations), we are
now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5
million miles, not counting bathroom stops or other breaks.

This requires that Santa's sleigh moves at 650 miles per second--3000
times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest
man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles
per second, and conventional reindeer can run at best 30 miles per
hour.

The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming
that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two
pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500,000 tons, not counting Santa
himself. On land a conventional reindeer can pull about 300 pounds.
Even granting that the flying reindeer could pull ten times the
normal amount, the job just cannot be done with eight or nine of
them-- Santa would need 360,000 reindeer!

This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh,
another 54,000 tons or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen
Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch).

4.600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air
resistance-- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as
spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere (which may explain
Rudolph's red nose). The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3
quintillion joules of energy per second. In short, they would
instantaneously vaporize exposing the reindeer behind them to the same
friction and also creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The
entire reindeer team would vanish within 4.26 thousandths of a second,
or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip.

Not that it matters, however since Santa, as a result of accelerating
from a dead stop to 650 miles per second in .001 seconds, would be
subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 Gs. A 250 pound Santa (which
seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by
4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and
reducing him to a quivering red-hot blob of goo. And yet, he returns
year after year.

Therefore, the rules of physics obviously don't apply to Santa and his
yearly mission. Speaking as an engineer, this guy must know something
about relativity that we have yet to discover.

HO, HO, OC.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas

2009-12-19 Thread Jerry Flaherty

 However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu,
Jewish or Buddhist religions
H, In light of the current state of global tensions, we may have to 
revise Santa's preferential circuit. We ought to form a committee!


--
From: Dark Matter freequa...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:27 PM
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas


Hi All,

Once again, it seems it has befallen upon me uphold the job of official 
Santa

Physics story reposter. So, in the true spirit of the season, here it
is yet again.

And as always, I have not checked the math.

Enjoy.

Martin


Engineering Christmas: Some points of contention.

There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the
world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu,
Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas
night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population
Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per
household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at
least one good child in each dwelling.

Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with thanks to the
different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he
travels east to west which seems logical. This works out to 967.7
visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household
with a good child, Santa has about 1/1000th of a second to park the
sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute
the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been
left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on
to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is
evenly distributed around the earth (which of course, we know to be
false, but will accept for the purpose of our calculations), we are
now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5
million miles, not counting bathroom stops or other breaks.

This requires that Santa's sleigh moves at 650 miles per second--3000
times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest
man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles
per second, and conventional reindeer can run at best 30 miles per
hour.

The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming
that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two
pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500,000 tons, not counting Santa
himself. On land a conventional reindeer can pull about 300 pounds.
Even granting that the flying reindeer could pull ten times the
normal amount, the job just cannot be done with eight or nine of
them-- Santa would need 360,000 reindeer!

This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh,
another 54,000 tons or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen
Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch).

4.600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air
resistance-- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as
spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere (which may explain
Rudolph's red nose). The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3
quintillion joules of energy per second. In short, they would
instantaneously vaporize exposing the reindeer behind them to the same
friction and also creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The
entire reindeer team would vanish within 4.26 thousandths of a second,
or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip.

Not that it matters, however since Santa, as a result of accelerating
from a dead stop to 650 miles per second in .001 seconds, would be
subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 Gs. A 250 pound Santa (which
seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by
4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and
reducing him to a quivering red-hot blob of goo. And yet, he returns
year after year.

Therefore, the rules of physics obviously don't apply to Santa and his
yearly mission. Speaking as an engineer, this guy must know something
about relativity that we have yet to discover.

HO, HO, OC.
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[meteorite-list] morrocans

2009-12-19 Thread habibi abdelaziz



do we need this in this list,you do not  think sincerly that its enough poisin 
here, and its holidays and we need better thing to talk about
did you give to this man a chance to talk,
he say dr tony irving have seen it, what else do you want,

he could say he is selling an unclasified meteorite that is probably a co3 and 
its done ,
question of term and rules,

but this is going to much hard, why have you to include the morrocans , they 
are 10 or 15 dealer from 1000, in this list
why have you to generalise this,
i think that we need more civisme and respect in this list
there is many way to ask a person a question
1= please how do you know its a co3;
2= please give me information of your based opinion,
3= do not give me nothing  i do not want to give you a chance to talk , im 
angry,,,

4= its enough

morrocans are selling unclassified meteorite, and some are selling classified 
one its for him to decide if he wnat to go true the process of classification 
or not,

well if someone found a meteorite in brazil or china do you ask him 
classification;; no you jump on aeroplane and you go to see and by your eyes 
you take the decision to buy,

ok , let's ask the morrocan to make classification all of them and to sell in 
ebay and to not sell wholesale , what , other dealer will do find an other job,

let be sincere and rationnel;

enough is enough

and one thing important, let's not be ashamed by our own words,  if someone by 
luck get into this list and read the archives ,
he will ask one question
why they are treating morrocans like slaves
 is this a racist list??? or some member are racist??
and why they are not answring 
and why no one in this list members react,or answer,??

think about it

if this continue this way i will queit this list and i will be ashamed that my 
son read by mistake what is hapenning in this list..


sincerly, this is a civic polite interferation in your ongoing discussion, and 
i do like to stop it here ,
 no more off this , as we will fell down further;; and it doens't go well with 
our academique list,

by the time i tell myself do not write this bad term in the list may be;;; dr x 
or sir y will read this and think  is a very down level,
i m not , i do see many email that i need to answer them but i tell to myself  
stop it you do not need this in your journey,

 calm down and let the morrocan in peace they are doing a good job and they are 
selling very cheap, and bringing a lot of wonderfull stone to the collector
and they are  very honnest and i never heard in morroco that any dealer 
morrocan ripped of anyone,

cr2 in 1999 was selling for 1500$/gr now 20$ the poor collectors 
lunar in 1999 was selling for 15000$ now 600$_1000$  the  poor collector
this is the market, and i m happy for the collector;


i hope we do not see here a kind of  big big R



  
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3

2009-12-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Now I like you, you show me a little of MAn being, I don't need to tell people 
who you are because they already know you, and if you follow Moroccans who put 
food on your table, you will lose for sure, you are making yourself a joke.
And I hope all Moroccan do not sell you meteorites, I am so happy I never had a 
deal with, I was lucky I did came you way, I would just be a victime.
I know that Habibi's Nakhlit kicked you out, the same for Monzogabbro and many 
other planetaries, another one one is on the way this one wiil make you very 
sad you have my word.
 Before you say moroccans go wash your mouth with pur honey then say it.
I can' wait to see you out of NWA meteorites, And I'm happy for other 
meteorites dealers who respect us, we offer them any type meteorites for the 
best prices. and they are very thankful for their trust and honesty,
I hope that Moroccans stop selling you meteorites and if you are a MAN, don't 
buy anymore from Morocco.
Time to hit the hay
Thanks to everybody who emailed and support me, your emails are confidential.
Aziz
  
 

--- On Sat, 12/19/09, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote:

 From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
 To: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:08 PM
 Hello Aziz,
 
 OK, if you sent this sample to Dr. Irving, what is the NWA
 number? What further analysis by supporting scientists
 and/or laboratories that are needed to confirm such a
 meteorite as you advertise. In my own experience and
 conversations with Dr. Irving and other scientists, they
 ALWAYS insist that oxygen isotope studies by other labs to
 'confirm' their initial (not FINAL) analysis of a sample,
 whether by you or other people.
 
 We see through your Smoke-n-Mirror advertising and are not
 going to accept sub-standard behavior if you guys
 (Moroccans) are going to sell your wares to us without
 proof. You can spout off names, but the bottom line is proof
 and accountability. If, and more often than not, you guys
 sells us crap, do you refund us our money? NO! I give you
 credit to good stone later, Mr. GReg! ,,, typical reply.
 
 You Moroccan stone traders want to be accepted by the world
 meteorite community as being legitimate, but your continuous
 behavior reveals you worry nothing more than lining your
 pockets with cash and care nothing about meteorites. To
 translate, one of my favorite Moroccan's best phrase is, I
 do not collect meteorites, I collect money! I find this
 very accurate with almost all Moroccan's I have worked with
 over the last 10 years. Sad!
 
 I have heard way too many stories of people being ripped
 off by Moroccan Stone Traders! I am completely tired of
 their crap! Maybe time to speak up a little more...
 
 Greg
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane
 abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
 
 
 Dear List Members,
 My CO3 is confirmed by Dr. Anthony Irving and this is what
 he said :
 
 AA-K  CO3 chondrite (W3)
 
 Small chondrules.  Olivine (Fa0-55), minor enstatite,
 chromite, kamacite, taenite, troilite.
 
 This is authentic stone.
 
 My best
 Aziz
 
 
 --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:40 PM
  Dear List members,
   If you are looking for a very nice and very
 cheap CO3, I
  have for sale a 133g uniq CO3 carbonaceous stone , the
 best
  price ever offred, for price and photos, catact me off
 list
  please. this is you Xmas gift
  My best
  Aziz
  
  
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas

2009-12-19 Thread gracie
This is my first holiday season on the list and the first time I've seen
this.

Outstanding!

 Hi All,

 Once again, it seems it has befallen upon me uphold the job of official
 Santa
 Physics story reposter. So, in the true spirit of the season, here it
 is yet again.

 And as always, I have not checked the math.

 Enjoy.

 Martin


 Engineering Christmas: Some points of contention.

 There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the
 world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu,
 Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas
 night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population
 Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per
 household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at
 least one good child in each dwelling.

 Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with thanks to the
 different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he
 travels east to west which seems logical. This works out to 967.7
 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household
 with a good child, Santa has about 1/1000th of a second to park the
 sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute
 the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been
 left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on
 to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is
 evenly distributed around the earth (which of course, we know to be
 false, but will accept for the purpose of our calculations), we are
 now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5
 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or other breaks.

 This requires that Santa's sleigh moves at 650 miles per second--3000
 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest
 man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles
 per second, and conventional reindeer can run at best 30 miles per
 hour.

 The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming
 that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two
 pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500,000 tons, not counting Santa
 himself. On land a conventional reindeer can pull about 300 pounds.
 Even granting that the flying reindeer could pull ten times the
 normal amount, the job just cannot be done with eight or nine of
 them-- Santa would need 360,000 reindeer!

 This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh,
 another 54,000 tons or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen
 Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch).

 4.600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air
 resistance-- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as
 spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere (which may explain
 Rudolph's red nose). The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3
 quintillion joules of energy per second. In short, they would
 instantaneously vaporize exposing the reindeer behind them to the same
 friction and also creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The
 entire reindeer team would vanish within 4.26 thousandths of a second,
 or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip.

 Not that it matters, however since Santa, as a result of accelerating
 from a dead stop to 650 miles per second in .001 seconds, would be
 subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 Gs. A 250 pound Santa (which
 seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by
 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and
 reducing him to a quivering red-hot blob of goo. And yet, he returns
 year after year.

 Therefore, the rules of physics obviously don't apply to Santa and his
 yearly mission. Speaking as an engineer, this guy must know something
 about relativity that we have yet to discover.

 HO, HO, OC.
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Re: [meteorite-list] morrocans

2009-12-19 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Hey Aziz,

do we need this in this list,you do not  think sincerly that its enough 
poisin here, and its holidays and we need better thing to talk about
did you give to this man a chance to talk,
he say dr tony irving have seen it, what else do you want,
 
Yes we do need it more than greg, let's talk and say the fact and tell people 
who we are and give them the freedom to decide, in earlier 2005, we have had a 
plan to meet with greg at Zagoura, I did tell some friends, I was surprised 
what they said then, they said, be carefull with greg.
I'm glade most of people of here trust us and they always encourage and keep 
buying from us. greg has a very weathered mentality and we can do nothing to 
change that fact, but let's just wish him good things althought he hates us and 
we don't acre. heh

--- On Sat, 12/19/09, habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] morrocans
 To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 6:18 PM
 
 
 
 do we need this in this list,you do not  think sincerly
 that its enough poisin here, and its holidays and we need
 better thing to talk about
 did you give to this man a chance to talk,
 he say dr tony irving have seen it, what else do you want,
 
 he could say he is selling an unclasified meteorite that is
 probably a co3 and its done ,
 question of term and rules,
 
 but this is going to much hard, why have you to include the
 morrocans , they are 10 or 15 dealer from 1000, in this
 list
 why have you to generalise this,
 i think that we need more civisme and respect in this list
 there is many way to ask a person a question
 1= please how do you know its a co3;
 2= please give me information of your based opinion,
 3= do not give me nothing  i do not want to give you a
 chance to talk , im angry,,,
 
 4= its enough
 
 morrocans are selling unclassified meteorite, and some are
 selling classified one its for him to decide if he wnat to
 go true the process of classification or not,
 
 well if someone found a meteorite in brazil or china do you
 ask him classification;; no you jump on aeroplane and you go
 to see and by your eyes you take the decision to buy,
 
 ok , let's ask the morrocan to make classification all of
 them and to sell in ebay and to not sell wholesale , what ,
 other dealer will do find an other job,
 
 let be sincere and rationnel;
 
 enough is enough
 
 and one thing important, let's not be ashamed by our own
 words,  if someone by luck get into this list and read the
 archives ,
 he will ask one question
 why they are treating morrocans like slaves
  is this a racist list??? or some member are racist??
 and why they are not answring 
 and why no one in this list members react,or
 answer,??
 
 think about it
 
 if this continue this way i will queit this list and i will
 be ashamed that my son read by mistake what is hapenning in
 this list..
 
 
 sincerly, this is a civic polite interferation in your
 ongoing discussion, and i do like to stop it here ,
  no more off this , as we will fell down further;; and it
 doens't go well with our academique list,
 
 by the time i tell myself do not write this bad term in the
 list may be;;; dr x or sir y will read this and think  is
 a very down level,
 i m not , i do see many email that i need to answer them
 but i tell to myself  stop it you do not need this in your
 journey,
 
  calm down and let the morrocan in peace they are doing a
 good job and they are selling very cheap, and bringing a lot
 of wonderfull stone to the collector
 and they are  very honnest and i never heard in morroco
 that any dealer morrocan ripped of anyone,
 
 cr2 in 1999 was selling for 1500$/gr now 20$ the poor
 collectors 
 lunar in 1999 was selling for 15000$ now 600$_1000$  the 
 poor collector
 this is the market, and i m happy for the
 collector;
 
 
 i hope we do not see here a kind of  big big R
 
 
 
       
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[meteorite-list] AD: GRAND FINALE! Over 200 items at 50% off. The last Sale Of The Year!

2009-12-19 Thread Michael Johnson
Michael Cottingham is having trouble posting and asked me to send this out:

THE GRAND FINALE! Many Items NEVER reduced this low!

SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE!
http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history

Best Wishes To All!

Michael Cottingham



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Re: [meteorite-list] morrocans

2009-12-19 Thread Greg Hupe

Hello Aziz #1,

Wow! Where should I start!!!??? Calling the kettle black... please do not 
tempt me to talk about the practices of of our 'fair' Moroccans. Give me a 
freakin' Break!!! My bottom line, if you continue to f__k me and my friends, 
I will continue to share the wealth of of info... wrippin' us off! I have 
nothing to hide but am willing to contribute to the truth!


Bring it!!!
Greg




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Re: [meteorite-list] AD abuse?

2009-12-19 Thread Michael Blood
Hi Michael  All,
Has it occurred to you that MC may be banned from the list
For abusing frequency of advertising? (Art never announces someone
Is banned). 
I immediately signed up for MC's list of advertising when he
Said he was going to stop his presence on the list.
If he is banned and people continue to post his ads, that is sort
Of spitting in Art's face.
I would suggest you contact Art before advertising for people who
Were dramatically over-advertising and suddenly find themselves having
difficulty posting to the list.
It may be he is NOT banned - but it would be advisable to check with
Art.
I encourage people to sign up for his advertising - and for my list,
too, for that matter.
Best wishes, Michael


On 12/19/09 7:06 PM, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote:

 Michael Cottingham is having trouble posting and asked me to send this out:
 
 THE GRAND FINALE! Many Items NEVER reduced this low!
 
 SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE!
 http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history
 
 Best Wishes To All!
 
 Michael Cottingham
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Michael Johnson
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org
 
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[meteorite-list] Re Tahoka

2009-12-19 Thread Pete Shugar
Does anybody have the skinny scoop on the 
gillions of sales of the Texas Meteorite

Tahoka from Lynn County Texas?
There are almost always a Fleabay
auction for Tahoka, but it's conspicuous
absence from the Met-Bul gives me the Willies.
Is this a verboden meteorite per IMCA 
guidelines???

Pete IMCA 1733
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[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-19 Thread bill kies


[meteorite-list] i'm sorry
SSTEVE ARNOLD
Thu, 02 May 2002 20:31:01 -0700
Hey all, Steve here. I'm sorry for all the postings. I'll keep them down to a 
low roar from now on. Again I'm sorry. Just to let everyone know, I finally 
have the ESQUEL pictures.
Thank you for e-mailing me, and have a great day!
Steve Arnold, Chicago! 
 
Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:03:40 -0700
I do really feel ashamed for the crap I have given
this list... 
Then when I got on the list,I realized I was part of something
even bigger that could get me noticed even more.Well that backed fired
because of my big ego.And yes I do have a big ego.And it has gotten me
into alot of trouble in my life.But I really do want to make ammends with
the few list members with whom I have totally have disrespected.I really
hope to earn your respect again by being true to my action by my apology
yesterday.This is a sincere email of totally being apologitic.I will
maintain from here out,nothing but meteorite related content that will
serve only the interest of everyone on this list and anyone associated to
this list...
I really hope
there is not a gone way over the line,I really so hope that I can win back
all the list members that I have really hurt.Again I am truly sorry.From
now any sales,ebay,givaways,or non-meteorite items will strictly be done
on another list that was meant to be for that reason,I will post to
that.And here is promise I will keep and you can truly count on,if I do
post something like I just stated,I will unsubscribe from this list.
Please again
accept my  humble apology for my disrepectful actions and attitudes.
 

2007/06/18  I promise to follow the meteorite rules from now on as well.Can we 
all do that?? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!

Sunday, March 12, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] last day of sale/I am sorry/AD
Good morning list.I have gotten some rather nasty emails about my
continued spamming of the list with my sales.I do apologize for the
continued mess.I was very stressed out when I did what I did.But after
sometime out to reflect where I want to go,it became clear what is more
important.PEOPLE! After
this sale I will become invisible for a while.I will continue to go by
art's rules.But lately I noticed othe r people have disobeyed them as
well.Again I am sorry.
 

Sat, 23 Jun 2007 06:35:09 -0700
I have decided that
this will be my very last round of freebies.

2005/07/17 Hello list I will be short.I want to apoligize to all the good
people on this list for my brash email I sent this morning.There was no harm
intended.It was plain stupid.I should have just kept it private.From now
on,no more sales,no more trades,no more givaways,no more jokes,just
METEORITES.I -- Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
 
campos sales sale
Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:29:51 -0800
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
I VOW there will be no more on these
or any subject regarding these stones.Come and get 'em!!
 
Then there was:
Hi again list.I made a mistake on the 527 gram piece.It is the 492 gram
pioece that has the flow lines and the lipping.Not the 527 gram piece.That
is my mistake, for that I apoligize.One has already been sold, so keep 'em
coming.
Then AGAIN there was:
Hi again list.I have just a few of the CAMPOS SALES pieces left forsale at
$2.00 a gram.The 492 gram flow lined specimen is gone,as well as the 449
gram dark crusted piece, as well as the 107 gram piece.I thank those who
bought them.I also have the 373 gram individual with 95% crust still as
well as the 563 gram 2 fragmented pieces and a few more.Get now while they
are hot to go.Sorry for this post,but I am happy to see them going.Chime
in and take one home.The price will never be finer.
Then  said:
I think Steve has very clearly demonstated how much respect he has for
us.
Which is NONE! It will never stop like Ground Hog Day, 50 First Dates, 
Muppet's Beaker does Chicago Again and Again and Again...when will it end? 
NEVER! I kept my promise to keep lurking, but Steve brought me out again at his 
own request. More braggingmore spammore acting innnocent and ignorant. 
Guess I chimed in. 

I was born at nightbut not last night!
Agh
 
Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:39:13 -0700
TTEEVVEEY:
NAYSAYER #1 HERE.This is the clearest example yet of what many list 
members have been trying to stop.  
Your e-mail:
Hello list.It is time to blow off some steam tonight toward some list
members.People are betting with each other when I blow my promises about
psoting with another means. (ANOTHER MEANS...WHAT THE HELL DID YOU JUST 
SAY???) (IT REALLY SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU SSTTOORRMMBBRRIINNGGEERR WHEN YOU 
HAVE BEEN CATEGORIZED AS A BUFFOON BY THE MAJORITY OF A SCIENTIFIC LIST, 
BREAKING 
PROMISES SO OFTEN THAT PEOPLE WAGER ON HOW QUICKLY YOU WILL BREAK YOUR 
PROMISES, AND ALSO SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU TOTALLY DISRESPECT THE LIST BY YOUR 
CONTINUED 
POSTINGS) ow I think that is down right moronic (PRETTY FUNNY STATEMENT COMING 
FROM YOU.  YOU DEFINE THE TERM MORONIC).People
still bug me about